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Dan Adelman leaves Nintendo and a small look into nintendos corporation.

"In an e-mail interview on Sunday, Adelman confirmed that he was leaving Nintendo to go independent, and said his former employer has been supportive of the move. Still, Adelman acknowledged that he was frustrated with the company's tendency to clamp him down when he said something that didn't mesh with the corporate message."

"I had been strongly encouraged to stay off of Twitter—or at least say only things that were clearly safe—so after the region-locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely," Adelman said. "When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name. I thought that was about the worst idea I'd ever heard, so I left it as is and let the silence speak for itself."

"Even though I ran the digital distribution business for almost 9 years, it actually wasn't until late 2012 that I started talking directly to the press. I think the main reason for this is that Nintendo is very careful about its image—as it should be—and I have a really bad habit of saying what's on my mind! I've never had the patience for company politics, so if there was a decision I disagreed with, I said so in pretty blunt terms."

Just shows how backwards and scammy nintendo really is.
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>>256320216
>Nintendo or any business doesn't want their employees to say whatever they want about the company they work for
>This is somehow scummy

Are you serious
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>>256320390
>first post already defending

Then shady if that sounds better for you.

Even MS lets their employes talk on the net.
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>>256320390
How about this?
>it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name

Do you support dishonesty too?
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>>256320216
>Talking shit about nintendo on nintendogaf
Incoming 300 shitposts
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>>256320621
>Talking shit about nintendo on nintendogaf
Actually im talking nothing, just posting what a high ranked now ex-nintendo employee shared about nintendo.
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>>256320216
>Just shows how backwards and scammy nintendo really is.

How is it bad for a company to prevent their employes to use their name to promote personal opinion on the internet? Every fucking company should take Nintendo's example there. Dev's wanting to please their twitter followers befoer their own company are the reason we ended with shit like modern Bioware.
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well, that is some nice fucking source you got there OP
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>>256320883
Then you are fine with actual marketers to interact with the fanbase like here?

>>256320581
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>>256320216
Literally who?
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>>256320958
http://kotaku__com/nintendos-indie-champion-leaves-after-nine-years-1615413692

>in4ba shittaku
Its an interview not some SJW
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Nintendo of America proves how retarded they are once again.
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LITERALLY WHO?
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>>256320216
Source?
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>>256320984

Some company from Japan I think
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>>256320976
Only retards fall for them.
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>>256321130
Ah the one who made the wii right?
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call me when somebody important die, like miyamoto or iwata
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>>256320512
>Even MS lets their employes talk on the net.

Not about things they'd be criticized for though.
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>>256321269

No, that's just silly. Nobody would call their product like that
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>>256321219
>This is how low nintendrones actually go
Really? You dumb drone?
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Nice source
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NINTEEEENDOOOOO STAAAHHHPPPP

>There were people whose job it was to look up addresses in Google maps to see if the business address was a home or an office building. And if it looked a little residential, they'd ask for photos. There would be e-mail threads with literally a few dozen back and forth exchanges about whether the couch in someone's office was really used for business purposes or did someone really live there? That policy, thankfully, is gone.

jesus christ
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Isnt it common sense not to shit talk your employer in social media?
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>>256321389
Yeah. If you fall for it, money for them.
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>>256321331
You cant be serious.
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>>256321395
>>256321128

see
>>256321114
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>>256321125
I think he appeared on gonintendo as a guest writer every now and then. I don't think I have read a single word by him, though.

You can't go out there, keep badmouthing your employee and expect to not get fired.
And this is pretty obviously a case of, either you leave or we'll fire you.
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>>256320621
>nintendogaf
i dont think you understand why gaf was put at the end of sonygaf
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>kotaku
didn't they published an article talk shit about nintendo cafeteria and got btfo in just a couple of minutes by somebody who actually work there?
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>>256320216
Literally who
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>>256321125
Sick meme /b/ro.
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>>256320216

>Still, Adelman acknowledged that he was frustrated with the company's tendency to clamp him down when he said something that didn't mesh with the corporate message.

The fuck was he expecting?
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>>256320216
DELETE THIS, NITENDO-SAMA WOULD NEVER BE THIS SHADDY!1!11
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>>256321530
>employer
Obviously.
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>>256321664
>Get hired by Microsoft to promote Xbone
>Talk shit about Xbone on twitter
>Get fired
WoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooW
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>>256321534
Neogaf is a website that fanatically defends sony. /v/ is the same with Nintendo which is why the gaf is added onto the end of Nintendo.
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>>256321650
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>>256321441
Is it common sense to put region lock on their hardware and never trying to listen to their customers when they complain?

Is it common sense to plan to put marketers into twitter so that their fanbase thinks they actually talk to a responsible nintendo executive?
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Literally who?

http://dan-adelman.com/who
>In 2005, I moved to Nintendo where I spent about 9 years heading up the digital distribution strategy for WiiWare, DSiWare, 3DS eShop, and Wii U eShop, where I helped bring games like World of Goo, the BIT.TRIP series, Cave Story, Shovel Knight, and many, many more to Nintendo consoles. I pride myself on being one of the first and most ardent supporters of the indie games scene from the mainstream industry.

So, cancer then. Good riddance.
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>>256320512
And they get fired.
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>>256320216
You are preaching on deaf's ears, you should have changed Nintendo to Sony first to see the actual reactions.
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>>256321650
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>>256320821
> high ranked
heh
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>>256321825
It's their products... you don't have to buy them :/
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>>256320216
Oh shit, someone talking shit about their employer got fired?

Truly the scummiest of scum, nothing ever seen before by any other company.
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>>256321854
You are so right, the thread would 100% different.

Will do this at a later time.
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>>256321937
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>>256321836
I thought you faggots loved shovel knight
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>>256321937
AYYY
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>>256321836
>Literally who
>>>/b/
>>256321908
>:/
>>>/b/
>>256321937
>ironic shitposting
>>>/s4s/
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>>256321481
He is. This happens with every company. It doesn't justify it, but don't use it as an excuse for a console war.
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>nintendo is now somehow scummy (im assuming thats what you meant) for partaking in normal company related activities
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>>256321950
Actually he left because nintendo is so shit and backwards.
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>>256321979
Not with this news though, bide your time.
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>>256320216
>talk shit about a company
>get fired

GEE IT'S NOT LIKE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERYWHERE ELSE
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>>256322024
nintendo fanboys love nothing but nintendo, i thought that was pretty clear
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>>256322036
Mr.Alien, please go.
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>>256321854
let be serious m8
the thread is just a thinly veil shitposting thread and nobody on /v/ give a shit about some low rank no name employee of either side
unless kaz or yoshida die, i couldn't give less shit
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>>256322037
ayy alamo
Also ps1/ps2 had region lock
It's just nintendo is behind the times, not that they are evil.
They see no reason to remove it, because they gain more money with region lock
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>Work for Microsoft
>Go on Twitter one day
>Someone ask if I should buy an xbox one
>"ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? XBOX ONE IS SHIT, BUY A PS4"
>Come into work next day
>"Anon, please see me in my office"
>Go to office
>"Anon, you're fired"
>"YOU CANT FIRE ME JUST BECAUSE I HAVE OPINIONS"
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>>256322063
>acknowledge that region locking is potentially a big inconvenience
>get fired

Go nintendo!
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>>256322037
Thank you for that quality post.
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>>256322038
Console war? What console War?

If nintendo fans will be able to stay on topic without deflecting to someone else this thread will stay on topic.
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Every business is carefull how the people working there reflect their image. Like Disney for example is one of the more strict ones. It's definitely better to stop an employee embarrassing themselves and their comany with stupid tweets.
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>>256322102
>Dan Adelman leaves Nintendo
>leaves

are you an illiterate faggot?
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>>256322024
It's the only one I haven't played on that list. I played the others and they're all trash, just like most so-called "indie" games.
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>>256322193
he didn't got fired, he left lel kek my sides epic ayy lamo I felt for your bait trolled jelly wow such doge bane!
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>Indie fag gets told to shut the fuck up
Sounds like a beta.
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>>256322193
NINTEN-SAMA IS WITHOUT A FLAW!!!!11!!

REGION LOCK FOR LIFE!!!11!!


MARKETERS FOR LIFE11!!1
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>>256322207
No need to thank me, taking the trash out of the board is a hobby.
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>>256320821
>Just shows how backwards and scammy nintendo really is.
Did dan adelman say that or did you say that?
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>>256322076
Even so it doesn't make nintendo automatically shit and backwards for shutting him up. Do you really think any company interested in making a profit would let their employees talk shit about their company, business choices or products? I agree that region locking is shitty but what happened to the guy was to be expected.
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Literally WHO?!
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>>256321825
It's common sense when they're more worried about people importing games than whatever the fuck you or I think.
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>>256322315
>Cave story
>trash

That why you will always be a toddlers.
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So what the fuck did he say about region lock?
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>>256320216
Sounds like literally every company on the face of the earth. Heck I know high schoolers in their first job at bagging groceries be told to be careful about what they put on social media and be reprimanded for some of the stuff they would write.
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>>256322485
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>>256322556
he said it can be a pain in the ass to have to buy multiple consoles to play region locked games.
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>microsoft fires like 6.000 people no one gives a shit on /v/
>nintendo makes one faggit to leave and there are literally 3 threads per hour about it.
nintengaf amirite guyz :^)
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>>256322453
I did.

And its the truth and not some shitposting like

>Literally who?
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>>256322637
What was the exact tweet like?
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>>256322556
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>>256322661
Does it look like anyone gives a shit in here?
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>>256322661
But what about the indies anon?
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>>256322714
Yes.
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>Adelman confirmed that he was leaving Nintendo
and how did nintendo fired him again?
He left because nintendo didn't let him tweet
Is this the new Phil Fish?
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>>256322801
I suppose all the literally who doesn't mean anything to you.
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>>256322661
Noone cares about microshit and with good reason.
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>>256322683
That's nothing. I'd understand it if he straight out said something like "Yeah, region lock on nintendo consoles sucks" but like this it's just implied. I'm aware nintendo is super anal when it comes to things like this, but this is way over the top.

>>256322673
No, you just insulted the company because you're a faggot and you felt like it. That's not truth, that's not factual, that's just you trying to get a sony shitstorm going. You even tried to make it seem like you're unbiased.
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>>256320216
I still cannot get over how jaggerific MK8 is

It's even worse than GTA V
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i wonder where were this level head people when that whatever woman from Naughty Dog left.
Could have avoided a multi thread week long shitstorm of posts.
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>>256322948
>No, you just insulted the company because you're a faggot and you felt like it.
Oh god, please forgive me for calling them what they are.

>That's not truth, that's not factual
Then what is it? How do you categorize nintendos actions.

>it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name

>in4ba normal
Its not.
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>>256321836
So it's his fair then that the eshop was usually filled with trashy shit and not what people really wanted?

Good to see him gone then.
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>>256323145
>woman from Naughty Dog left

Was it actually a woman or some faggot on hormones with a mutilated penis? Either way who gives a fuck.
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>>256323290
I think most don't care about digital who play Nintendo anyways

Hence why copies of Nintendo games are so expensive second hand
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>>256323263
Shut the fuck up. I honestly don't give a shit about your justifications for it, but don't go around making a thread about how "backwards and scammy nintendo really is" and then try to play it off as an objective statement. It's not, you're just trying to start shit.
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I came in this thread wanting some real dirt and controversy. Instead I got a baby whining that he wants to use Twitter to say asinine things.
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>>256322683
Fucking. Wow. Just acknowledging that having to deal with multiple consoles is enough to say that you shouldn't tweet at all? It's not even saying their games are bad or thier current stuff is bad. Jesus, fuck those guys, he had every right to leave.
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>>256321806
Yeah, except that time where there was piiu threads galore before E3 2014
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The man is right though, region locking and lack of cross-buy is bullshit. Nintendo is always 10 years behind the rest of the industry.
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>>256323659
>actually going on neogaf
get the fuck out holy shit
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>>256323462
You just the fuck up, you little drone.

You favorite company is shit, deal with it.
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>>256323462
This is important. I don't own a Nintendo console though.
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>>256321836
>In 2005, I moved to Nintendo where I spent about 9 years heading up the digital distribution strategy for WiiWare, DSiWare, 3DS eShop, and Wii U eShop, where I helped bring games like World of Goo, the BIT.TRIP series, Cave Story, Shovel Knight, and many, many more to Nintendo consoles

And nothing of substance was lost.
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>>256323659
Yeah, 2013 had nonstop shitposting about the Wii U, couldn't even discuss pikmin 3 or W101 without shitposters.
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>>256323490
He's going against the company line. When you are employed you'll understand, kid
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>>256323721
You responding to right guy?
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>>256323803
yeah man fuck indie games
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>>256323709
N-no a-anon, n-nintendo is r-right and l-like l-literally w-who?
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>>256323723
See, now you show true colors. This is what you were after all along, you just want to call that one other fanbase you don't like bad names :((((
Eat shit and go somewhere else to have your console flamewars.

>>256323772
I'm not saying region locking isn't an important issue, I'm just calling OP a faggot for starting console shitposting threads. He just proved that by calling me a nintendrone. The last time I've played a nintendo game was in 2007.
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>>256323145
I think that was off of the back of the Santa Monica and Jack Tretton leaving.
So it was like everyone was leaving Sony.
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The highly cultivated presentation control that he's complaining about is exactly why I can hardly care any less about -any- big corporation's communication attempts. Until they start letting employess like him say what's actually on their minds, this is one consumer that they aren't communicating with as much as they could.

On a similar note, this is why the most interest I have in hearing what some politician said is those times when they got recorded without realizing it. Unless people are saying what they really think and believe, I don't really care to listen.
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>>256323709
No one is saying it isn't.
People are saying that if you bad mouth your employers you're not going to make anyone happy.
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>>256323915
>See, now you show true colors.
Your colors are of a buttblasted nintendrone that cant take the truth about nintendo being shit.

I have no color just calling it how I see it. Not even once did you even adress the actual points in the OP. The only thing you are doing here is defending and deflecting.
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>>256323723
>doesn't provide any facts
>"shut the fuck up, your company is shit"
You're starting to sound like those toddlers you keep spouting.
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>>256324089
Please shut the fuck up. I don't care for you calling me a Nintendrone. I don't know what you think it will lead to.
Do you want me to call you a Sonydrone now? A Microsoftdrone?
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>>256320216
That game would look and play so much better on a PS4 or PC with proper anti-aliasing and decent draw distance. It's really a shame that Nintendo keeps using outdated hardware.
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>>256324142
>Region lock
Backwards

>Not listening to the complaints
>Trying to replace him with a marketer
Scammy

#Facts
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>>256324023
>No one is saying it isn't.

I am. Region locking fosters more quality game development. Look at every other console, and PCs for proof.
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>>256323709

He still can't say it, it's like if a retail sales assistent tweeted acknowledging that Asda, Tesco or Walmart's have cheap trolleys with wonky wheels.

Even if it was true the employer isn't going to be happy with the person tweeting.
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>>256324282
lol nice hashtag bro, epic
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>>256323006
I don't notice it at all when its in motion.
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>>256324282
cool hashtag faggot, how about you go fuck off to whereever they use them?
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>>256324251
The draw distance seems fine anon I don't think my playing experience would be any better if I could see further than that.
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>>256324282
>make fine point
>discredit self with hashtag
but why anon?
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>>256320216
> it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name

haha oh wow
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>>256324306
Then you're a retard who probably loves paid online, mandatory DLC and monthly payements, and any other anti consumer shit.
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>>256324353
>Deflecting

>>256324408
>Deflecting with bad english
Already mad, I see.
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>>256321836
So he is responsible for some of the worse online shops ever where the only good thing was the shop music
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>>256322948
>That's nothing. I'd understand it if he straight out said something like "Yeah, region lock on nintendo consoles sucks" but like this it's just implied. I'm aware nintendo is super anal when it comes to things like this, but this is way over the top.
Without their "good guy" image, Nintendo wouldn't sell anything. They have become a broken record, chanting about "fun" while they make watered-down ripoffs of better games.
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>>256320512
Like that guy that openly ridiculed people for not having the kind of internet you get in big cities who got fired?
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>>256320216
>Dan Adelman
>Just some marketing faggot who doesn't even touch video games
>People are surprised that Nintendo doesn't want their employees talking shit about the company
>omg, but this one time they almost did something dishonest, but then they didn't.
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>>256324618
And that was good or not?
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>>256322683
Why didn't he just tear the tabs out of his NTSC SNES?
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It boggles my mind why Nintendo wouldn't shit take these criticisms into mind and do away with region locking in their next console. That way, more people get to enjoy more games without having to fork over extra cash for another system AND they improve their image as listening to the fans.

Hugging their nuts 24/7 doesn't help matters. We should be encouraging this criticism if it means we get a better product in the long run.
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>>256324420
I don't know, I usualy play video games on a high end PC and although PS4 games look okay for now WiiU games really look like shit, MK8 really needs some anti-aliasing. I'm fine with PS3/360 games looking as they are but come on, it's 2014, it's the Wii all over again. Nintendo should just go third party, their hardware past gamecube is just a joke.
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I just bought a Pro controller - feels comfy

also I don't give a fuck and nobody actually cares
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>>256320216
>"he was frustrated with the company's tendency to clamp him down when he said something that didn't mesh with the corporate message"

So he's frustrated with something every employer does? If you're a representative of the company you can't be saying things publicly that go against its message even if you disagree with it and even if the criticism is true.
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>>256322683
wow it's fucking nothing

working at nintendo must be like attending a scientology cult meeting if they fire people over shit like that

good on him for speaking up against regionlock though
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>>256324494
>Then you're a retard who probably loves paid online, mandatory DLC and monthly payements, and any other anti consumer shit.
>Nintendo

Kek. And one only has to, again look at the consoles to see if that fosters quality game development. Enjoy your Paystation4.
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>>256324767
You really think that if Nintendo went 3rd party all their games would have AA and all the other stuff?
They didn't even use the full power of the Wii to make games they aren't going to use the full power of a PS4
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>>256324753
I'd rather them invest more into localization.
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>>256324647
>Dan Adelman
>Supports fanbase for region free hardware
>Supports cross play
>Brings third party support
>Nintendo wants to replace him on twitter with a marketer
>Nintendo forbids him for interacting with the fanbase
>Lefts company because he wants to work with people that are passion for games
>nintendrones start shitposting about him just to defend shitendo
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>>256324251
>That game would look and play so much better on a PS4
>with proper anti-aliasing
>PS4
Only at 30FPS™
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>>256324810
Nintentoddlers, they just ignore how shitty things are and brainlessly scream the "comfy" or "fun" buzzword. Keep that mentality Nintenbrony, it's what Nintendo needs you to do in order to properly fuck you in the ass.
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>>256324893
I don't have a PS4
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>>256324767

That's just the screenshot system on the Wii U. The actual game looks fantastic.
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>>256325015
this...is a PS4 game.... wow....
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>>256324251
every game on every console would look and play better on a more powerful system or PC. People have been saying this since PS4 released.
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>>256325028
I hope they will always stay this way, its a guaranteed way for nintendo to die.

Its nintendos fault for having only manchildren as their hardcore fanbase.
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>So addicted to Twitter you quit your job
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>>256320512
Ah ah no, there was last year I think, some MS employee spoke about certain customer experiences they had, their kotaku account had NO correlation to their MS persona and they still got find out.
Big Brother MS hard at work.
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>>256324997
>>Supports fanbase for region free hardware
>>Supports cross play
>>Brings third party support
Cause he championed these causes so successfully...
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Nintendo is shit, nothing new
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https://twitter.com/dan_adelman/status/496289504492548096

When did you turned into NeoGaf, /v/?
Its the sonyggers faults?
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>>256324951
>They didn't even use the full power of the Wii to make games they aren't going to use the full power of a PS4

Mario galaxy and Zelda: Skyward Sword used the maximum of the wii especially SS as many slowdowns prove it. Actually I'm pretty sure Nintendo wanted more horsepower for both games as the detailed models and textures prove it when you emulate these games. Just fucking look at how much better wii games look on an emulator.

I think Nintendo could benefit from a better hardware, they make consoles but they only do it because morons will buy outdated hardware. They have really good game designers so they will do fine as 3rd party, they are not Sega. Actually I kinda want Sega to take Nintendo's place in the console market, their hardware always had the horsepower needed for the generation and the Dreamcast was way ahead of its time with its online and memory card usable as handheld/aditional screen. If they made a dreamcast 2 with that same philosophy it would be awesome.
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>>256325524
nintendo doesn't give a fuck what NoA employees think, no wonder a whole bunch of them left for microsoft years ago
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>>256320512
>Even MS lets their employes talk on the net.
Remember that little incident about how if you are too poor to have always internet, you dont deserve to buy and Xbone ?

Companies censor what they employees sy cause media, ,yes media, take what this people say and slap it as if it were companies policies and not a personal opinion, giving birth to a PR nightmare
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>>256325731
Yeah but that guy was literally insulting MS's customers. This situation is completely different
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>>256320216
Tough shit. If you don't like company policy, then find another job.

With that said, Nintendo is not the friendly game producer that Miyamoto and Reggie work hard to convince you that it is. It's a for profit business that exists to exploit their markets to the maximum. Maintaining that image is a critical part of their business.
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>>256325687


>muh neogaf boogeyman!
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>>256325687
anyone got a link to that thread, I want to see how it compared to this
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>>256325015
If you straight up port it and crank up draw distance and apply AA it would still run at 60fps due to the PS4 raw power. If Nintendo designed the game with PS4 in mind it would also have higher resolution textures, higher draw distance, proper anti-aliasing and still run at 60fps.

You are just a moron if you think the console's hardware is limited to 30fps. It's the devs who chose: graphics or framerate. By the way even the PS3 has some games running at 60fps like Wipeout. Contrary to Nintendo fans beliefs Nintendo didn't invented 60fps.
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>>256325863
is a general rule cause you never know when something will blow or not.

also goes to information, see how that Canada guy mentioned Rayman and all internet went Viral about Rayman being Green for Smash, when was just about the trphies?

Companies care too much for images and most media, specially gaming is yellow as fuck so they will take anything and spin it as much as they can, ergo why corporation encourage their employees, specially hi profiled one, to keep their opinions to thenselves or not public

>>256325983
no sane person here lurks that trash pile
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>>256325983
but Good Guy Dan do sure helps even afterhe retired
https://twitter.com/Dan_Adelman/status/496296957737197568
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>>256325687
Nintendo can do no wrong.

:^)
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>>256324716
Difference is, the guy vaguely shitalked MS and got fired for it.

This guy outright said something negative against nintendo's practices, regardless of how shitty they are, and they kept him on but banned his twitter usage until he eventually left.
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>>256326610
>banned his twitter usage until he eventually left.
they told him to keeps his opinons to him, you autistic cunt, you never worked for a company, right?
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>>256326404
what the hell is going on in that thread
>huge blow for nintendo
>dan was so important
>what are they gonna do now?
who the fuck is this faggot and who gives a shit? why is neogaf pretending hes up there with iwata doing anything that fucking matters? i just dont understand
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>>256321836
>>256322315
I know hating on indie is all cool and all, but dissing Cave Story and World of Goo just proves you have shit for brains.
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>>256326727
He didn't express any opinion though
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>>256326732

his main job was to strengthen indie relations, that's it
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>>256326732
he was the spear bridge between Ninty and Indies, and he was overall a cool guy, but yeah Neofag is only ussing it as wood for the nintendoom fire
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>Terrible news for Nintendo as this is a huge loss with all the good work he put in, probably better news for Dan to get out of that kind of environment.

yep, Neogaf still as lovely as always
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>>256320216
>Talking shit about your employer gets you fired
>Manchildren are actually trying to think this is somehow not normal practice for every employer ever
Maybe when you start your own multibillion dollar vidya company you can talk shit about yourself all day.
>inb4 muh freedom of speech
>taking money from a company then shit talking said company without expecting repercussions
NEETs pls go
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The NeoGAF thread is going apeshit about this news. Usual Nintendoom bullshit over a mans decisions to change occupation.
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>>256326974
But what exactly do you need for that work?, Being able to talk to people?, and be a good negotiator?, that's it, so why the big fuss
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>>256326141
the core problem is that devs wanted to push graphics last gen as a way to sell their systems, then it turned into a shitfight of who can outdo who with the flashier visual effects, companies quickly dropped standards like 60fps and even moved to tone down newer things like full hd, This gen they are going even further, LOD distance is becoming disgustingly short, 10 fucking metres, are they even serious.

To be fair a game with mediocre at best gameplay and stunning graphics will beat a game with stunning gameplay and mediocre graphics.
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>>256326939
>>256326974
yeah but WHAT did he do. was he the one they talked to about technical things with the shop, was he the one they talked to to get their games on the systems, was he just a cock sucker to make indies feel good, or did he look for indies and try to get their games on the systems. it cant be that last one. he said he helped bring shovel knight in, which is absolute bullshit because those dudes wouldnt need help from anybody to do that
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He got us Scram Kitty on the eShop and um.....uh......a shit ton of shovelware?

Gee what a loss.
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>>256326727
No. They told him that what he was thinking was inapropriate and that he should let someone else post apropriate opinions on his twitter for him. The dude didn't insult the company so no real reason to ban him from using twitter if anything they should have told him that these things can damage the company's image and that he should be more politicaly correct in the future. Insted, Nintendo's reaction is something that you can straight up find in George Orwell's 1984 book.

Nintendo is as all companies run by people, its people who make decisions and if these people tell you what you have to think or say past the understandable "don't insult the company we rule" the proper reaction is to leave and make a deal with someone that treats you better. This applies to every job you get, if the people in charge treat you like shit leave and find something else, even if you get paid less.
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>>256320216
>I'm a braindead Twitter whore no one cares about
>please give me your attention, I left Nintendo

And why are you posting an upscaled MK8 thread? Do you need attention too?
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>>256327215
>was he the one they talked to to get their games on the systems

mainly this
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>some random ass guy
>a guy who went out of his way to publicly denounce his employer for no reason at all
>surprised when Nintendo wants him to stop being a faggot

Any company does not like this, ESPECIALLY when it's through a Twitter to be seen by thousands upon thousands of people
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>>256326141
>proper anti-aliasing and still run at 60fps.
You keep saying that but TLOU which was, literally, a last gen game could only do AA when locked at 30FPS.
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>>256327348
I love how this game looks, especially in motion.

It's weird how shit other fun racers look in comparison, and it's the only console fun racer that runs at 60 frames.
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>>256327318

Yeah, I wish we had good games on the eShop. I have a big fucking harddrive and next to nothing on it.
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>>256327132
its a possition that can be filled, he just was the one that put out hte face for it with the higher ups, again, the guy was cool and neogaf is just using it as fuel to shitpost.

>>256327215
a little bit or all, talk about policies reach out indies, work as middle man between small indies and corporate,

if indies were you, and Nintendo were your dad, and publisher a game was asking dad for money, he was your big brother helping

they guy is basically just popular and was a good PR face for nintendo for helping out reach the indie market
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>>256327318
this isn't about him

it's about nintendo telling him to give his twitter to a PR shill because he told a guy whining about regionlock, "I feel you bro"
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>>256327373
so a nobody. hes the cashier who takes the money and gives change. him and his opinions or his position matter for shit and he can be easily replaced. why does anybody care about him?
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>>256327382
my company encourage us to have 2 accounts, 1 personal, and one public.
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>>256327348
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i don't remember seeing these threads when he left microsoft but i guess the indie scene wasn't that big back then. or maybe this is just the usual shitposting
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>>256322353
Do you do it for free?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JL8eAQtqJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raZ5bTMRjpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uVmygSZf1k

Just watch these three indie sizzle reel videos and tell me Nintendo lost somebody important.

They fucking didn't.

Look at this shovelware shitheap.
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>>256327594
Shitposting will always exist, it has existed long since before the internet, and imageboards, and a distributed mail service.
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>>256327489
Tbh, if this last 10 years has taught us anything, it's that "famous" people need a fucking filter for their Twitter. I can't count the number of "controversies" that could have been avoided if celebrities and such took their managements advice and run stuff past PR

But I'm digressing here.
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Why are people getting assblasted about some literally who?

I know it must be a slow news day but there's video games to play
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>>256327695
indie is not about games quality, is a giant PR circus to not be big bad corporation.
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Speaking of, Scram Kitty and his Buddy on Rails is on sale on Thursday

anyone picking it up?
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>>256327397
Because TLoU was designed to be pretty, not run great. Are you fucking retared or what? It's devs decision to make the game run at 30fps not a console limitation. Hell, most of PS2 games run at 60fps, DMC 4 runs at 60fps on PS3. TLoU Remaster runs at 60fps too btw. And please don't bring the "oh look it has a few slowdowns to 45fps! Wii U wins again" MK8 has a few slowdowns too, even your PC can have slowdowns when lots of shit happen on screen, it doesn't mean the game generaly doesn't run at 60fps.

To go back to my point, better hardware means more horsepower for devs to use, if Nintendo could develop on a more powerful console than the Wii U they would of course target 60fps, but with the aditional power they could increase texture resolution, details, draw distance and add proper anti-aliasing.
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>>256327731

Shitposting itself requires anonymity you mong
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>>256327794
you guys cant even make your own macros??
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>>256327865
You are the one who is a mong.
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>>256327489

They didn't do that. They said that if he couldn't say positive things maybe he should either shut up -or- turn it over to someone else.
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>>256327928
Avast ye troll, I have no quarrel with thee
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>>256320216
>billion dollar company
>taking risks with opinionated employees talking shit on the internet

Every company cares about its image.
As they should. Image is important.
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>>256327858
>MK8 has slowdowns
Source?, I haven't seen any
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=867680

>Good job Nintendo!
>Waaaah it's all Nintendo's fault!
>Iwata needs to be fired for this!

Same shit.
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>>256320216
>Just shows how backwards and scammy nintendo really is.

>"Nintendo is very careful about its image—as it should be—and I have a really bad habit of saying what's on my mind!"

Why is there even a discussion here?
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>>256328020
>Awesome move by Adelman. Nintendo was the wrong company for him. Nintendo is way too political and backward thinking, I bet there is an old guard within Nintendo that believes that they should only make Mario games, not do anything online, and view third party sales as lost business instead of increased value. Until these type of people leave Nintendo, the Adelmans will not be welcome.

Are these people for real
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My job is not much, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like it if I went on a Twitter rant everytime they do something ass-backwards.
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>>256320216
What PS2 game is that?
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>>256328260
Super Nya Nya Akiba Disco slalom downhill race.
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>>256328192
yes, now grab more pop corn, it gets better
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The only game of worth this man is responsible for was probably Bit Trip. Everything else was going to be ported to everything else under the sun because that's how digital games work these days.

Bit Trip is the only exception because it really only got know through WiiWare as one of its good games and probably didn't have funding to port to Steam immediately.
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>>256327858
You have been missing my point since the first post, yes TLOU can run at 60fps, but without AA
See >>256325015
And that is a pretty big thing considering that the graphical update was minimal and ND could not even keep they promise that the game would look like the cutscenes in the PS3 version.
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>>256328017
Just play the game man. When everyone is gathered in one place on the preatier circuits and lots of items are used at the same time you can notice the game having a small slowdown, nothing really outragous but still. Now get a friend, play in split screen mode and you will notice it if you haven't on single player. If you still haven't noticed it gather 3 friends and play on split screen. If you still haven't noticed it t's time to stop playing on 50cc.
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>>256328241
He didn't go on a twitter rant you dumb shit, all he basically said was "I feel you bro" when someone said he was sad he couldn't play japanese nintendo games
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sGQQ6DziDg

Dan Adelman greenlit this to be on Wii U.
Consider that for a moment.
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>>256321125
Yup.

What is it with /v/ caring about nobodies in the industry.

Some faggot got fired who gives a shit.
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>>256328552
WHAT A LOSS

#FIREIWATA
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>>256328529
>If you still haven't noticed it gather 3 friends and play on split screen
thats not slow down. thats 30 fps. it goes into 30 fps mode when you get 3 to 4 players
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>>256328529
I've played more 4 player than anything, and it has never slowed down for us. Keep on lying on the Internet to make a company you have nothing to do with look bad.
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>>256328518
I am not talking about The Last of Us. It's a lazy port by the way. I am talking about Nintendo developing for other consoles. And point is if MK8 can run at 60fps without AA on Wii U, the aditional power of a PS4 or even better a PC would allow for 60fps and AA. Why do you even talk about TLoU? My original post was about how Nintendo games would be better on another console or PC, and a guy had to shitpost the PS4 with the "30fps™" meme.
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>>256328529
I just moved so I don't have any friends other than my big bro, so yeah, I can't know
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>>256328020
>What's wrong with you Nintendo. This is a huge loss.
>Sounds like an almost oppressive environment to work in.
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>>256329075
>On another consoles
Yeah, no, the better option is PC, obviously if they do something about piracy
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>>256327794
>Some buttmad sonypony was mad enough to change all sony references in this pic to nintendo.
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Japanese corporations doing dumb descision? Wow who would have expected it
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>>256321825
whatever that has to do with the topic
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President Eisenhower said that it was most important for his subordinates to be "selfless". That means, he wanted the people under him to be supportive of him and be able to put their own personal beliefs aside so that they may do a better job serving.

I believe Dan Adelmen is no exception. Because Dan was employed by Nintendo, he should have the strength of character to put his personal beliefs aside and be supportive of Nintendo. The fact that he had problems controlling his tongue shows his struggle with selflessness. However, he has all the right to leave, but I do not believe his point of "not being able to say what's really on his mind" is a valid vindication on Nintendo's part because employees should be, to their best ability, supportive of their employer.
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>>256320216
D'ADELMAN UNCHAINED
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>MY COMPANY IS SHIT AND THEY OFFER BAD PRODUCTS
>Hey, uh, can you stop or we're gonna fire you
>WHAT? IM LEAVING, BUNCH OF POLITICAL CORPORATE MONKEYS
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>>256320216
Friendly reminder that Nintyfags are so far up Nintys asshole that they will defend this.
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>>256334245
Him leaving the company?, what exactly needs to be defended anyways?
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>>256334640
>Censoring the very same guy who is responsible for relations with indiedevs

[spoiler}You next post will show me that you do not understand the difference between badmouthing your employer and criticizing him. Calling it now.
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>>256335529
No, he didn't badmouth, he said "I feel your pain"
And he was the same guy who got shovelware on the eshop sooooo
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>>256335974
>shovelware

Is that what you meant or did you mean to say Shovel Knight?
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