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>mfw Destiny is a poor mans 40k
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>mfw Destiny is a poor mans 40k
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>mfw 40k is a poor man's starcraft
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>>255478978
Starcraft was released after 40k
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Bungie's been ripping off 40K for decades. This was bound to happen.
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>>255477874
What? So far Destiny seems like a more simplified Star Wars, with an aura of Mass Effect and Halo surrounding it.

>TFW you first visit the tower and it gives you memories of ME1s citadel.
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>>255477874
Good thing Destiny is more fun.
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>>255479779
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>>255479779
Those ideas were concurrent
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>I can't have a 40k thread without shitting on someone elses fun time
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>>255480131
But fun time without 40k is HERETICAL
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>>255477874
destiny reminded me of mass effect. ill play it simply cause i need a fix till mass effect 4
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>>255478978

this is a poor man's bait
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>>255479962
haha no
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40k is a poor man's Dune.
Starship Troopers.
Star Wars.
Star Trek.
Judge Dredd.
Rambo.
Zulu.
Just about every action and war movie from the 70s and 80s.
But Dune is the primary influence.
If you are interested in 40k, don't bother with 40k. Just read Dune, Heinlein, and watch Star Trek. Maybe read Dredd if you're looking for a comic. You'll get all the good parts of 40k, and you'll be reading better literature and thus not pollute your mind.
Dredd is mind pollution, but it's still better than most comic books.
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>>255480656
I like 40K AND Dune.
What now?
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>>255480965
Read Starship Troopers, watch Star Trek and read Judge Dredd.
That's what.
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>>255480653
Actually I forgot that the Tau didn't come out until 2001
Marathon was 1994
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>>255477874
Not really. The armour, gun design, ships and powers were like mass effect, the enemy ai and shit being like halo.
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>>255481129
XD nice troll, Warhammer from 1987
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>>255479779
That came out before the Tau actually.
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>>255480656
But it's a mashup of all of them. Some of us like it for the mash-up that it is because it takes from good source material and lots of it. Sure the final result isn't perfect but it's better than a lot of other settings.
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>mfw EYE is a french man's 40k
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I keep hearing Mass Effect but I don't see it.
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>>255480656
>Dredd is mind pollution
huh
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>>255481129
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>>255480470
>Implying it won't be ME3: Social Justice edition
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>>255480656
too bad Dune is boring as fuck
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>>255482276
Your dick is boring as fuck. That's why I fucked your mom.
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>>255477874
>mfw 40k is a rich mans Destiny
>mfw GW are thieving cunts
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>>255477874
>mfw 40k is a rich man's game
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>>255482657
See that just ruins the fun and overall experience
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>>255482636
GW are thieving cunts because they have to be, otherwise they wouldn't make any profits.
They're stubborn as fuck about their manufacturing process, refusing to automate their processes or open up new manufacturing sites.
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>>255481705
Its a lot more Halo than mass effect, obviously since its Bungie. The sparrow and pike feel exactly like a ghost / brute chopper mash up. The Fallen AI are exact copies of the elites and jackals on normal mode, etc.

But for mass effect, the equipment designs for one. Guns, armor, the special abilities, and the Tower being like the citadel, the atmosphere for me felt almost the same, except online.. and no quests.
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>>255482934
>otherwise they wouldn't make any profits.
I heard they were slowly but surely dying but hey that's just what I hear from you guys time to time.
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>>255482657

>Paying 11,500 burger dollars for little plastic men
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>>255482858
>being a poorfag

I'm sorry for you

That's not even that much for what you're getting, like a month of work, maybe?
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>>255478978
ahahahahaha thinking 40k came after starcraft made my day. Why do people type shit out not knowing?
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>>255483239
It's true they keep squeezing the hobby shops but that is not necessarily an indication GW itself is hurting.
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>>255482934
I think its more to do with this >>255483239

I mean their prices have just kept rising and whenever they've had sales or deals its always been bottom of the barrel stuff like the little scenery pieces like three drum barrels and an ammo case. On top of that they dont want you using non GW kits or paints etc which is kind of understandable but justified when other companies produce some better and much cheaper kits/paints

Also cause of the price they are slowly losing customers and with shit like >>255482657 its less about the hobby more about the money

>Start a cadian army
>box of 20 cadians is £15.00
>box of 20 cadians rises to £18.30
>box of 10 cadians is £20.00 last time I checked
>mfw they dont even try to justify this
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>>255484124
>people prefer franchises like 40k to mass effect
Is this bizzaro /v/ wtf
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>>255482657
>11,500 burgers for mass produced plastic
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>>255477874
WH is already poor so I guess that makes Destiny destitute.
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>>255484283
A lot of it is due to their refusal to modernize, expand and automate their manufacturing process.
Currently they still do everything by hand, all the machines are operated by hand, even the packaging is done by hand.
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>>255481629
I just started this and what the fuck is going on
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>>255480656
The first two I can agree on.
But I'd take 40k over any of the rest.
You also forgot alien and a ton more influences.
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>>255482657
Cheap 3D printing when? GW needs to die.
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>>255484456

>implying anyone on /v/ who isn't a biodrone likes Mass Effect.
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>>255480656
>But Dune is the primary influence.
Always funny when people say this, but even going back to 40K 1st ed. and comparing it to Dune there are hardly any similarities at all. Just a bunch of Dune fags who are butt hurt their preferred setting is relatively disliked.
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>>255484712
Everyone loves the setting, its just the rushed EA ending of 3 that upset people. Having a bad desert doesnt ruin the excellent starter and main dish, boy.
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>>255480656

>Dredd is mind pollution,

There's an Iso-Cube with your name on it.
We're gonna throw away the key, creep.
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>>255483416
>ruins the experience = poorfag

Typical reply. Not what I was getting at. The whole point of the hobby is to collect and build your army piece by piece, improving as you go.

The fun of the hobby is playing against your friends and winning or losing then thinking "If I had a librarian I could..." then heading to the store that weekend and buying a new unit or units and building and glueing them then using them in the next game with different units, terrain, rules objectives etc

Just buying it all in one is just no fun.
>Just bought $11,500 worth of plastic models
>Probably wont build and glue all of them
>too many units to field in your typical game
>could have saved that,
>could have had multiple vacations etc

just. No.

Also if you feel that sorry for me and have that cash send it to me
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>>255484712
Its my fav series, even with 3s ending. The characters and world is just too good to pass up on, the reaper plot was always the weakest part of the games anyway so I expected it to be crap, same with the collector plot in 2. It doesn't stop 2 from being my fav game of last gen though.
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>>255480131
That's because 40k is not fun on its own.
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>>255484630
Any particular reason?

I mean surely it cant just be stubbornness
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Will it be good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPIrx_iEJMo
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>>255485116
Not him but:
It's far more than the ending.
It starts as a game where you can explore space and different cultures of aliens. Cultures that are fundamentally different , wierd , bizzare. Something that can be developed further and further.
And then suddenly it's not about aliens but about drama and the aliens become some sort of background. The more wierd ones remain undeveloped while the humanized ones get more spotlight.
Any options you ever had get reduced and reduced. Even the damn dialogues get less options.
It degraded in every aspect other than combat. But the combat never was really good so it focused on the worst thing it had.
It's not a sudden fall. It's something that constantly gets downgraded.
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>>255484648
EYE, a secret group of Cyber-Psychic-Warrior Monks, is in the middle of a coup against the federation to help the Secreta gain power, but there's an internal conflict between the Culter and Jian factions that halts their progress. Also there's an unknown alien energy known as Metastreumonic force that takes the form of monsters that cause trouble for everyone. Halfway into the game you have to choose where your loyalties lie, your longtime Mentor, the Culter leader Rimanah or the Federation. Then you do what they say until the "end" of the game. After which, the game really begins.
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What is the best IG regiment and why is it the Mordian Iron Guard?
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>>255480656

>Star Wars is shit
>Star Trek is shitter
>Judge Dredd is babby tier
>Rambo is laughably bad
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>>255485783
Pray. Pray to chaos or emps or whatever that the shop does not destroy it. Pray that they do termies, meganobz and wraithguard well. Pray it isn't a shitty space marine on a huge map.
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>>255485116
>everyone loves the setting

Speak for yourself, dumbass.
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>>255486528
Go fuck yourself.
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>>255485783
>mmo
>good
pick one
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>>255486473

But the devs track record is shit. That's what concerns me most.
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>>255485783
No chance. p2w even before start + all the quality stuff show so far is from reused assets.
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>>255486631
>all of this mad


Upset that nobody likes your homosexual relationships with aliens simulator?
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I really like 40k books, but coudln't give a flying fuck about the game.
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>>255486853
Which one?
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>>255487067
I meant 40k tabletop, but the same goes for Destiny I guess. The only things I'm excited for till the end of the year are Metro Redux, Elite and Pillars Of Eternity.
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>>255486853
There are a lot of War Hammer games, some are good. You need to be more specific.
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I can't get into 40k
It feels like a child wrote it. Look at the powers of the characters, the big guy is literally named God King Emperor of Mankind. Is that supposed to be a joke? When you were little did you ever play pretend with your friends and insist you 'got' them but they made up some bullshit like 'NUH UH MY ARMOR IS MAGIC AND STOPS EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE' It's like someone started making a character design and didn't stop until he could cram every idea ever onto a foot soldier and for the bros some gross out humor like replacing their balls with grenades

it's also for nerds who think DnD is passé
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>>255487404
Then what is your stance on the god emperor from dune ?
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Ecclesiarchy is best

Everything else in 40k comes second
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>>255487404
But that's what so charming about it. It takes every sci-fi trope and cranks it to eleven and then some.
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>>255487528
But that's not a Penitent Engine anon.
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>>255487665
Oh, sorry. Here's one.
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>>255487528

Holy shit....is..is that the pope?
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>>255487790
This pleases the Omnissiah.
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>>255486693
Pray anon. It's all we can do while we wait. Pray the cash shop doesn't ruin the game. Pray the whims of the founders don't ruin the game. Pray we get decent and varied classes and not space marine on a bigger map.
Also pray Miguel learns english and we get more info from the developers , not the community managers and marketers.
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>>255487902
Not even close.
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>>255488021
Thanks for my new wallpaper based anon. Glory to the God-Emperor.
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>>255487902
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fyodor_Karamazov#.U9f_JrFCDS4
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>>255487528

I believe you are a faggot sir.

Or perhaps a git.
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>>255487528
You know the Ecclesiarchy hates Karamazov right ?
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Eldar=Best race in my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwODnnfra3A
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>>255485950
Sorry but me 2 improved almost evarything over me1. 3 had its bad moments but it was a heck of a ride, especially tuchonka.
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>>255488990
Wut u sayz panzee ? I bash ye and I smash ye with me boyz!
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>>255489598
I always read it in Gorgutz's voice.
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>>255489598
Reminder that Green Skins are Space fungi Niggers
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>>255489598

>Implying that orks are nothing more than mob of retards the Eldar manipulate with ease.

Also, orks can't stand against mah dakkafaces. A bunch of these will fuck up an ork mob of any size.
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>>255489420
I strongly disagree with you. 2 started the downgrade. The only thing that got improved was combat.
But whatever. Nobody ever stops arguing on which ME is better. Go buy ME4 and be done with it. I won't.
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>>255489801

If that's the case, then Eldar are pretty shit when compared to SPESS MARINESS.

The foodchain goes

SPESS MUHHRINES > NECRO > ALL OTHER RACES
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>>255489795
>Green Niggers
that's the Salamanders
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>>255489819
Not him, but albeit ME1 was great for it's Space Opera feeling and absence of the action-hero elements, it was still a pretty bad game from a gameplay standpoint.
All optional quests took place on essentially the same, randomly generated "planet" with a different color and maybe 1/2 the game consisted of totally uninspired driving around in empty environments.
Compared to BG2 or KotOR it was quite lacking.
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>>255489992

Nah. In fluff, the Eldar are not pushovers to space marines, unless they are being led by plot armored special characters, and in the actual tabletop, Eldar are the superior army when compared to muhreens.
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>>255485983
The fucking conversations are made by edgy 15-year old dipshit.
>first conversation where you can side with federation
>choose the option that goes something like "I've waited for this opportunity, sure I'll help"
>the federal guy literally says, from word-to-word: "YOU SOUND DISHONEST, PREPARE TO DIE!"
what the fuck

I want a fucking mod that fixes all of this shit
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>>255487902
Just like the pope with more genocide and blowing up planets.
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>>255489795
wat? They've always been white brit football hooligans.
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>>255489801
Dakkafacez ey ? Deyz gud I gibz you dat. Dem rest of ye boyz be gits dough. Wez gonna squash ye !
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>>255490223
Yes but it could have improved on that. It had a good foundation. It then switched to space drama and chopped the little randomly generated stuff it had.
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Daily reminder that everything orks loot becomes batter
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Need game.
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>>255487304
This is bait, all the good GW games were cancelled and only Bloodbowl was ever brought back.
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Daily Reminder:

If Eternal Crusade is successful we may see some more A - AAA quality 40k games. Otherwise we're stuck with shitty mobile tier games for all eternity
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>>255492178
Of that game?
Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT-43
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>>255482934
Actually, their CEO just stepped down today. Too early to tell if that'll do them any good, though.
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>>255492178
Jokaero never fight all they want is to produce weapons
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>>255492406
hey deathwing might be fun , small scale fun but fun enough
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>>255486314
They're all better than 40k though
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>>255492981
I'm really hoping on Deathwing, but frankly the team developing it are nobodies in the game industry. Its quite a small team IIRC. They don't even have a release date for it, so it could potentially be out end of 2015...maybe even 2016. Still they did release a AAA quality trailer. Now they just need a big backing publisher to fuck things up and we may see this game launch.
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>There will never be a Final Liberation sequel
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>>255480656
>40k is a poor man's Dune.
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>>255493234
They don't really need to go too big. Make a good co-op game with singleplayer options.
The space hulks already provide them with tons of ideas on what could be inside. Termies are customizeable as fuck.
The one thing I fear is them making the game dark as fuck, so much that you can't see shit. E.Y.E felt like that to me.
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>>255492439
Ah right.
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>>255494190
Well either way, nothing good left in 2014. I guess 2015 will be the year of 40k.

Honestly I'd just be happy with good gameplay mechanics and voice overs now. The graphics have already sold themselves.
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why hasnt 40k made a half billion budget vidya
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>>255495337
Games Workshop is a bunch of Jews. They used to keep really tight control on their IP (partially because of WAR tarnishing WFB). But now they're letting a lot of developers share the rights, and we're getting a TON of games, and most of them sound interesting.
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>>255495562
>and we're getting a TON of games, and most of them sound interesting
All of the announced games are literally phone tier, Space Hulk excepted.
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>>255495337
There are stories of GW suing itattoo artists for tattooing WFB and 40k symbols and the people who GOT the tattoos for abusing their IP.
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>>255495562
Unfortunately, they also tend to be cheap about who they give the rights too so most of their games aren't too good.
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>>255495562
well there aint gewd 40 vidya tittles

why do you think 2015 will be the year of 40k

delusional as fuck M8
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>>255495939
>Eternal Crusade
>Phone Tier
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>>255495337
Because GW invested money into a billion dollar vidya once upon a time. Then Blizzard pulled out, ran away with the money and renamed the mostly finished game Warcraft.
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>>255485783
Quite likely.
>>255486717
>reused assets
From where? They haven't reused shit.
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>>255496437
nope warcraft never had such budget man

Like others have said I think GW originally wanted to make games with Blizzard, but GW backed out for whatever reason, leaving Blizzard with a half (if not fully) finsihed game, so they just chnaged some names about and published it, and then made history!

The sad thing is the original Warhammer Online (WO) - by Climax was going to be released a bit before WoW, but due to GW pulling out due to a larger then expected budget, the IP for warhammer bounced around loads before Mythic grabbed it and actually finished it.

There are many many older (and worse) WH and 40k games, Shadow of the Horned Rat, Realm of Chaos, Rites of War, Final Liberation, etc. But those were turn based games, basicly computerised versions of table top games.

Thes also a Bloodbowl game out that is inch for inch a digital version of the game. THough there are rumours of a FPS in the form of Space Hulk on the way...
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>>255496092
Right, it's more along the lines of eternal payments.
Looks like the developers learned quite a few things from GW.
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>>255496437

No, just no.

Blizzard started WC and was negotiating for GW to allow them to attach it to the Warhammer IP. Games Workshop wanted way more control and money than was reasonable to any company because they'd ripped of Tolkein before Blizzard did. Blizzard had to change everything to prevent GW from suing them.

GW made a horrendous business decision because that the only kind of business decision they know how to make.

Warcraft was made for six bucks and a case of piss weak American beer. Now Blizzard is massive and Games Workshop is a cluster-fuck.
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>>255496959

Oh yeah, it's a sad story when it comes to GW.

Warhammer's IP has virtually no value to any quality developer simply because Games Workshop is an absolutely horribly run company that's even worse to deal with when you want to keep things professional.

They have a passion for their product but their taste is in their toenails and their common sense is utterly absent.
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