What would Nintendo have to do to win e3?
Personally I think any one of these three would give them undisputed winner status:
Any Zelda trailer involving gameplay that doesn't look like complete ass
New Metroid/Star Fox reveal
TLoZ U to be good and a remake of MM
Smash might get hype but not with Ridley,that fucker aside of being too big,it has no moveset for smash[if it had one,it would be seriously broken]
New IP that doesnt suck or gets abandoned in limbo
Get ready for the "waaah waaah Pacman and Mii are in" when they get revealed tomorrow. Everyone will be saying "preorder cancelled" and "DROPPED" as if literally everyone didn't see it coming.
At this point, all they need to do is just show one new IP, a Smash Bros trailer and have a decent presentation without tripping over themselves. And they'll win.
For me, they just need to show SOME kind of Dragon Quest game is coming to the west. And they will win.
Custom Robo 2
Lost Kingdoms 3
Sonic Adventure: Battle 3
Animal Crossing 3
Super Mario Sunshine 2
Paper Mario: 3 (not super paper Mario fuck you)
Super Mario RPG: 2
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles 2
Some new IPs
there would be chaos in the streets from everyone rushing to buy a wiiu
Never going to happen, SE hates our english speaking guts to let that happen.
It doesn't matter what they do because there will always be a subset of people who will say they didn't win... as if "winning" E3 is something you can do anyway.
This place is contrarian as fuck and will shitpost no matter how good anything is and they will do it for all platforms.
Stop trying to think about it in terms of "winning"
>Custom Robo 2
What. There have been like 6 CR games.
>Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles 2
Please this. There were other FF:CC games but none came close to the amazing original. And it could work out with the Gamepad. Please Square give us a new Comfy Chronicles games
Give me a Metroid, F-Zero, or Starfox and I will go out and buy a Wii U before I get home from work tomorrow. Smash will be cool and Zelda U is a given, but they need something else to fuel the hype train at this point.
>Any Zelda trailer involving gameplay that doesn't look like complete ass
Don't we all agree the latest entries on home consoles have been shit? For me it would have to do something more than just not looking like complete ass.
>What would Nintendo have to do to win e3?
New monolith soft game and SMTxFE is all I want from E3. Scalebound and bloodborne looked cool, but if Nintendo has either X or SMTxFE then they win hands down for me.
Nintendo would win E3 10 times ever if they did even half of these. This is why I don't understand that company. It is so obvious what they need people to do to love and buy their shit... and they choose to make fucking Mario rehashes and Wii Music.
>New Metroid series, not an FPS
>2 new IP
>2 new games in modern Nintendo franchises
>2 games from older franchises coming back
>1 HD remaster from Gamecube or N64
There is your perfect E3
>And now, we would rike to show you a trairer for a burandu new game co deveroped by Nintendo and Square Enix
>Screen fades to black
>Square Enix and Nintendo logo apear
>suddenly this starts playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkailb3xcTI
>Fucking Mario and Co. duking it out with some evil force
>15 seconds in and the theme goes full orchestra muh dick
>Logo appears: Super Mario RPG 2: The Rainbow Star
>Release date Winter 2015
please tell me that every self proclaimed ridleynigger is partaking in a ruse.
people can't possibly be this fucking delusional, sakurai more than implied he is a stage hazard.
thats it, end of the line.
> Nintendo has a chance to Blow everyone out
> Not doing a conference
the best thing about e3 is hearing the reactions from the crowd when a game is released.
I want to see Zelda U and Smash Bros reactions
Are you saying Sony or Microsoft did anything that warranted winning so far?
So long as Nintendo doesn't fuck it up and has an even slightly not-awful show tomorrow, they'll beat Sony. And they'll beat Microsoft probably too because nobody wants to see Microsoft win
I agree that Nintendo has it easy to beat Sony since they already say they were gonna show a new 3D Mario and Zelda, but Bloodborne isn't something you can beat by doing nothing.
Think about it, the new From's game is a PS4 exclusive. That's a lot.
I seriously hope Nintendo turns the Wii U into somewhat of a Gamecube 2.0. They lost the casuals to smartphones a long time ago, but they have a chance to being people back with franchises that they haven't really done anything with yet this gen or even last. I just hope they realize that before the ship is completely sunk.
Goddammit Nintendo you still have so much fucking potential. If you fuck up tomorrow then you deserve to go under.
It is unlikely they're going to fuck up considering how little effort they put into MK8 and it's returned handsomely for them. I think they're on the right track, they haven't succumbed to moviegaems, Other M's awfulness has ruined the taste of Iwata's mouth for movie shit.
Well we can bank on the Zelda reveal and a newcomer for Smash. Maybe if Miyamoto's new IP shows up and knocks it out of the park we might have a winner, but the problem here is that Nintendo's already shown some of their hand. I mean, they really should've saved something like Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire for E3. Not sure how many surprises they have in stock, but they could always fall back on a new Metroid/F-Zero/Star Fox rail shooter for hype shenanigans.
Sony and MS got their act together this year and showed games. If Nintendo pulled the same shit they did last year (pikmin and a character reveal for SSB, followed by 30 minutes of their shitty WiiU themepark thing), they'd get their asses handed to them. They need good games, and lots of it. They can pull it off, they have a habit of pulling shit out of their sleeve like that
> Bloodborne isn't something you can beat by doing nothing.
they just showed the name
they could come and say we are makking a new metroid paste a log and would be the same
>muh leaked gameplay
yeah wich shows you have a gun and you can run how fucking informative
Because they got out of the virulent hellhole that is E3 when they had the chance. Nintendo knows showing up for a yearly circlejerk is a waste of time, and that everyone's going to hear about their new shit regardless of if they can attend or not. They figured they might as well just release the info on their own terms rather than put up with the whole E3 circus.
Yeah, it's a little sad we won't get to see fan reactions like in past years, but considering how most E3 attendees these days are the bribed journalist scum that have been slandering them for years, the crowds wouldn't know when to cheer for a good game if there was a gigantic prompt saying "APPLAUSE NOW."
It's going to be another lazy effort from Kadakawa Mobile Games company's From Software.
It will be buggy, overhyped by websites, glitchy, will get a million meme threads on /v/, and in general be a bad game. It will sell millions.
A smash trailer with a character people actually want.
Nintendo will never make a Pokemon MMO as long as Pokemon is the best selling handheld game of all time. As long as each main series Pokemon game keeps selling 20 million copies, there's no way they will make a Pokemon MMO. It would just make a game to compete with itself.
>They'd go broke before getting halfway anywhere near where WoW got.
The most expensive MMO ever made was Old Republic. And it was estimated to be made for 300-500 million. Nintendo has 4-5 billion in savings. They could easily make a Pokemon MMO just using the funds they've made from Pokemon alone. They just won't.
Unless it looks like absolute shit, the Zelda reveal will easily be enough for them to win. So far the only single game revealed at E3 to garner my interest was Scaleborn, and that didn't even have gameplay.
>the Zelda reveal
And who says they actually will reveal that? You really think 'The Unbound King' is the official Zelda game? A Zelda fanfic writer couldn't have thought of a worse title.
>implying 3 million is enough
We need more you boob. MORE! Wanna rub the sales numbers in the sonyggers and microshits face.
Anyone else think they'd move an uncountable amount of Wii Us if they announced
Kirby Air Ride 2?
Honestly, I have the fucking Wii U and I've hated Nintendo the second the Wii was revealed, but with how MS and Sony went, if Nintendo pulled Metroid, Star Fox, Mike Jones and Bowser Jr for Kerfuffle, I might actually buy a Wii U.
A game that isn't just riding on the coat-tails of casual children/nostalgic manchildren.
You know, the stuff that Nintendo hasn't had for almost a decade?
So yeah, Nintendo isn't going to "win" anything. They'll just be as predictable as a Call of Duty announcement.
>Lost Kingdoms 3 getting announced at all.
No. because while Kirby Air Ride was good, it wasn't that great of a seller even for a GameCube game.
Trust me, I love the Kirby spin off games, but they aren't exactly system sellers. Kirby Canvas Curse and Air Ride especially.
Pokemon Snap for 3ds and WiiU, both versions can play with each other.
>Don't talk about movies/TV and they win by default
Microsoft didn't do that either
They just mostly talked about their pre-existing franchises, which Nintendo will do too and it will pretty much be a draw
>Chrystal Chronicles 2
They could literally re-release this game with updated graphics and the removal of the GBA shit and I would gobble it up like a starved African child.
Now a sequel? With all the quality of the original?
Holy shit. I think I'd die.
But it's not going to happen.
It doesn't even have to be a goddamn MMO. Just give me a Wii U Pokemon game in the style of the handheld RPGs with robust online features. I would buy a system just for that game.
I really don't see a Pokemon MMO ending up any good.
I mean it'd definitely generate a shitload of hype and console sales but I'm pretty sure the game itself would end up sucking. I just can't envision it. Unless it's some really super-casual themepark or something.
If they actually annouce Pokken I'll take that a sign that they're ready to try new things again and the MMO is right behind it.
Also hoping Sakurai hops off Kirbys dick and makes Pokemon Snap 2 or a Pokemon racing game that isn't fucking Pokemon Dash. Fuck that game.
Year of Samus
>Metroid Wii U
>Metroid Prime 4
>Metroid Collection that's just like the Halo Master Chief collection. Remastered Zero Mission, Return of Samus, and Super Metroid all on 1 disc with current gen visuals. can be on 3ds or wii u I honestly don't care which one, though I guess 3ds would be more practical
>No Mario or Zelda games.
>a new Starfox with a decent length campaign.
>no "Wii _____" games
>No Iwata. seriously, it's painful listening to him try and speak English. At least Miyamoto uses a translator
>Pokemon U with hardware pushing graphics, a long campaign and even side quests
>Conduit 3 (fuck you I want it. I just hope the story is better than 2. 1's story was decent)
>Hyrule Warriors is renamed Nintendo Warriors or something of that sort. Now it has all major nintendo characters and their respective worlds.
>redesigned Wii U interface
>I didn't play the game
>I don't know what weeaboo means
>I think QTEs are inherently bad, even if they are only in cutscenes
Mother fucking SMT x FE information. It's been a fucking year and there's been a shit load of fuck all released about it.
4 or 6 good exclusives and good messaging.
Both Sony and MS had basically 2 exclusive big games and 2 downloadable and the rest was multiplat(mostly with PC too)
If Nintendo can keep the pace and mood up, they can walk away with it.
Funny, I recall seeing a shit ton of "x mai whyfoo/husbandaid" prior to the game's abysmal launch.
>Other game has shitty QTE gameplay
>"HAHA LOOK AT THAT SHITTY GAME, CASUALS."
>Nintenyearold title is the same thing
>"GOTYAY BASED NINTENDO"
>Wii Music 2 turns out to be the greatest game of all time, >in-depth game mechanics that simulate music playing so seamlessly people are able to play able the instruments in real life
>story mode so compelling it becomes culturally important for generations being quoted like shakespeare lines
>graphics eke out every bit of processing power available into an unparalleled stylistic masterpiece making every single frame a breath-taking work of art
>Miyamoto says he was even only barely able to implement everything he had in mind so he started working on a different new IP that would finally be able to realize the vision he first had while making Wii Music 2
>He can't because a Walmart 18 wheeler killed him
>The truck was shipping copies of Wii Music 2
Wouldn't you feel like an asshole
A Pokemon MMo actually has the potential to be the only real good MMO. Because Pokemon itself is really just a single player MMO forcing you to interact with NPCs as if they are real people. Playing this quazi single player MMO experience for 70-80 hours until you reach the end game and actually get to talk to real people via the link up feature.
A real Pokemon MMO would simply replace those NPCs with real people. Real battles in the wild. Real people to trade items with. etc. But yes, Nintendo probably would screw it up and gimp all the features terribly. To the point that it was nothing like the original handheld games and nothing like an MMO. Basically, like the horribly watered down Gamecube games.
Really, nigger? A pokemon MMO would be literally IMPOSSIBLE to fuck up.
Make it play just like the normal handheld games. Give it fancier graphics. Make trading/battling/ect happen with other trainers in real time. None of that GTS shit.
Fucking millions made instantly.
Japan would have riots trying to contain the autism a game like that would create.
Millions of smogonfags fapping to their 2D waifus and IV training.
It's not that they need to do nothing, they need to just not mess up.
The bar is pretty low, but they still have to take their turn, and they still have a chance to mess up. Hoping they won't.
I see people saying dark souls its a good game with fair gameplay
Abd that gta5 will never EVER come to pc
Doest mean its right
Also you cant have a chick on an game whitout some one claiming its their waifu
I saw the same argument from shitposters on launch, good to see one's still here. Only idiots complain about all QTEs, most don't like them but some are alright like these ones and the ones in Resident Evil 4. Also ALL GAMES can have waifus and husbandos. You could call cortana a waifu, or even yet lara croft, basically the queen of western waifus.
Okay, how would the actual mechanics of an entire MMO of Pokemon PvP work? How would dungeons work? How would raid bosses work?
Or do you literally just want the single player game with some shitty turn-based PvP thrown in (or even real-time Pokemon combat, which again, how would you make that work)? I.e. a shitty fucking MMO by literally any other standard?
If Nintendo does something new and surprising that looks good then they've won me over, because that was exactly what the other two completely failed to do.
New and surprising hasn't exactly been Nintendo's forte lately though so picture probably related.
It would seriously be trash. Nothing but min-maxing faggots out the ass spamming uber legendaries, or faggots scamming people for their rare items or pokemon.
Also a pokemon game with actual communication options would be the worst community in the history of video games.
The reason the music is so brilliant in it is because of
>ms and sony come hard, bringing dozens of games with gameplay
>even releasing betas and full games today
>an alpha this weekend
>FUCK THEM THEY BOTH KILL GAMING FUCKING DELUSIONAL SHILLS
>nintendo wins by doing what?
>every response is bare minimum of effort usually about one fucking game
It's Nintendogaf like a motherfucker around here. They get a pass for doing nothing. I'm surprised every response isn't "They can fuck my mom as long as they don't impregnate her. Or well, they can but maybe not give her AIDS."
Fuck this fucking board. You pieces of shit would give Nintendo money if they honored you with one game per year.
Capcom vs Nintendo: Super Ultra Mega Arcade Hyper Edition EX Plus Alpha Prime Delux Gigaloo Remix Edition
Now with Sanic
I wonder if we'll see any more third-party crossovers this year?
So far there's:
Mario & Sonic at the Olympics
What else could get a crossover? Kirby? DK? Star Fox?
>ever working with Nintendo ever again
>Square legitimately making a serious game for Nintendo consoles
>not making even more spinoffs of spinoffs
Nah m8 Sony might've sold all their stock but Square is still a diehard Sonygger company.
>dozens of games
Good laugh, my friend. If you're seriously that ass-blasted that /v/ isn't cumming over Fifa and TLoU remastered, you can always feel free to take your business elsewhere.
>a 100% PVP Pokemon MMO
Wow yeah it's really gonna feel like a fun, wonder-filled journey when I'm blasted by some minmaxer who hangs around pallet town all day, or when I want to use my favourite monsters but can't because there's no point using any Pokemon that isn't uber making hundreds and hundreds of the Pokemon totally pointless, or when I feel like revisiting the world three years later but I can't because the entire world is now empty of Pokemon trainers.
What the actual fuck are you thinking, m8.
I'm glad we are in agreement that this argument has nothing to do with the Wonderful 101 then. Good talk. Obviously you are shitposting since you acting like you don't know how to spell waifu and even the densest 15 year old would get that having a "whyfoo" as you call it is mainly a joke outside of /jp/ and some parts of /a/. Pic related, it's my
Nintendo has already won this by promising footage of new Zelda and an UNANNOUNCED 3DS games.
They haven't had any leaks either - they're going to undo all the damage that's been done by the WiiU. .
I'll never stop hoping for Pokemonster Hunter.
>ms and sony come hard, bringing dozens of games with gameplay
yeah iam sure
I heard he's going to be on stage with sakurai himself to talk about all the deep
>implying the trailer wont be a F-Zero/Metroid Crossover
>New Custom Robo
>New F-Zero but with MK8 just being released I doubt it
>New Advance Wars
I might end up getting a WiiU if they show something interesting for it.
If not then I'll just get a PS4 and hope they have something interesting coming out on 3ds.
cause mine has been collecting dust for a while
...are you seriously implying all MMOs are clones of WoW?
PvP, dungeons, and raid bosses aren't fucking exclusive to WoW and literally never have been. MMOs have existed for fucking decades.
Unless you want the fucking Second Life or Club Penguin audience or what-fucking-ever, essentially every MMO on the fucking planet has some variation of this shit.
>New Miyamoto IP that isn't Wii Music U
>Advance Wars 3DS (supposedly next in line for IS)
>Pokemon U (teased last TGS)
>Metroid U (likely)
>Star Fox U / 3DS (likely)
>F-Zero 3DS + U
>Paper Mario / some Mario game
>Smash Bros. U being glorious and 60fps at demo stations.
>Bayonetta 2 extended gameplay
wild card: Batallion Wars U. They could do some very creative things with unit management RTS style with the touch screen while having personal control for key units on the big screen.
If even 5 of those things happen, Nintendo will have won E3 by a longshit.
>or faggots scamming people for their rare items or pokemon.
actual team rocket
They do release exclusives on 3DS though.
Just not localize them.
Bravely Default has shown them the error of their ways however.
I believe the positive reaction to BD will push SE into localizing more of their traditional RPGs on Nintendo platforms.
What the fuck do you think Smash Bros is? How low is your reading comprehension?
>Wow yeah it's really gonna feel like a fun, wonder-filled journey when I'm blasted by some minmaxer who hangs around pallet town all day
Yeah, because I'm sure they would make the game totally free and have no limits at all. Oh, but here's where you start bitching about how limits are evil. You're just looking for an excuse to bitch, aren't you?
>or when I want to use my favourite monsters but can't because there's no point using any Pokemon that isn't uber making hundreds and hundreds of the Pokemon totally pointless
So...just like the current Pokemon games? Where there's 550+ Pokemon, but only about 50 of them are actually worth using in real multiplayer battle.
>or when I feel like revisiting the world three years later but I can't because the entire world is now empty of Pokemon trainers.
So again, just like real Pokemon. Where a new version of the game comes out every 2 years.
Your beef is with Game Freak and the broken Pokemon system, not me. But good job trying to deflect everything towards me.
Am I the only one who almost teared up with the gravity changes in the new rainbow road. I like mario kart, but it was like they were teasing me with the fact that they won't make F-Zero.
>PvP, dungeons, and raid bosses aren't fucking exclusive to WoW and literally never have been.
But Pokemon doesn't have traditional dungeons and DEFINITELY doesn't have raid bosses. And neither does every MMO out there. Thus, you are an idiot for claiming Pokemon would have to have them just because it was an MMO. And even more stupid for implying Pokemon would have to become a theme park MMO when it is the very model of a open world, sandbox game.
>Mother 3 exists, is a thing, and is leagues better than Earthbound
Nintendo should reveal their new next gen console, called the Nintendo Nexus. Check out these beastly stats:
>1.79 MHz CPU which uses the 6502 architecture
>custom built GPU that can handle up to 25 colors onscreen, with up to 64 objects on screen at once and a VRAM of 2 KB
>2 entire KBs of RAM
>cartridge based media which allows for near instantaneous data loading
>Nintendo will force third parties to develop games for the console, as well as keeping the games exclusive for two whole years
>launches with 18 games
Nintendo will have this in the bag. These specs will be the first time a console has earned the respect of the PC Gaming Master Race.
ignore the faget
Pokken Fighters was trademarked.
Also, Mario Basketball featured Final Fantasy characters.
Tekken Tag 2 featured Nintendo themed costumes.
MH4 had Nintendo-themed DLC weapons and MHF for Wii U has Fire Emblem Awakening DLC quest for Chrom / Lucina armor and weapon.
Ladies ladies what if we just combine the Pokemon main games with the mystery dungeon games? Mystery dungeon is pretty much a single player limited mmo.
What precisely about Pokemon is even remotely sandbox-esque? Is there any emergent content at all (fucking random encounters don't count)? And even an open world can be a fucking themepark.
Also, I fucking know Pokemon doesn't have that stuff, which is why it'd make for a pretty shit fucking MMO. Literally the only suggestion I've heard to make it an MMO is to add trainer PvP and maybe some trading or some shit. That's literally it. And that's fuck-all in terms of content for an MMO. That's fucking nothing. Just a regular Pokemon game with a couple extra features would be a GARBAGE MMO. Absolute trash.
Do you seriously know anything about MMOs? I'm still fucking curious to know if you've ever played one. Even one.
You wanna know why they won't localize those games? Because Nintendo consoles of ANY kind are literal financial black holes. Combine the fact that those games haven't even totaled 1 million lifetime sales and you'd see why they're sceptical.
only smash bros matters honestly...
metroid and star fox and whatever obviously cant compete with similar genres/game player on ps4/xbone or especially pc.
Only smash bros is unique and top of its class.
I will buy a wiiu only for smash bros and not buy any other game.
>Yeah, because I'm sure they would make the game totally free and have no limits at all. Oh, but here's where you start bitching about how limits are evil. You're just looking for an excuse to bitch, aren't you?
Don't even know what this word salad is supposed to mean.
>So...just like the current Pokemon games? Where there's 550+ Pokemon, but only about 50 of them are actually worth using in real multiplayer battle.
Just how dim are you? I was making obviously making an overt reference to the Pokemon meta. The point is that right now there is the single player, which is a journey with natural progression, and there is the meta, which is highly restricted technical arena. If I want to play the meta I can play the meta. If I want to use my favourite Pokemon, or fuck around with random ones, I can play single player. So even weak Pokemon can have a use.
If you make the "adventure" mode functionally equivalent to a meta where you walk around a bit before starting fights, then you might as well delete 90% of the fucking Pokemon in the game because they will never, EVER be useful. There's no point exploring every nook and cranny to find new and exciting Pokemon because the whole fucking game world is just smogon with grass and hills. Catching Pokemon you like and playing naturally gets you stomped, the only way to progress would be to look up which 30 Pokemon are uber and just stick with a handful of them throughout the whole game. It would sap every fucking drop of adventure and wonder that Pokemon has left.
>So again, just like real Pokemon. Where a new version of the game comes out every 2 years.
Wow, that's funny. I just loaded up FireRed and all the NPCs were still there. Honestly do you just stop reading halfway through each sentence?
I can't believe I had to dumb these down for you, I thought they were completely self-explanatory. You're actually dimmer than I unfairly pre-judged you to be.
The thread had no shit on the other two guys until this post.
This shit has to stop. If you see a Nintendo/Sony/MS thread or a game specific thread that's exclusive to one manufacturer-please just stay away or lurk.
Posting something that strays from the topic or just to rile up people fucks up /v/ even more(if that's even possible)
But then there would be no reason to ever buy a Nintendo handheld ever again
>suddenly nintendos games are being sold on steam
>suddenly marios hat is officially in tf2 to coincide with the major deal and is free to anyone who buys a nintendo game
>nintendo has been producing half life 3 this entire time and thats why theyv been complete dog shit for the last many many years except smash bros
The only things worth a shit so far are Bloodborne (which we already knew about under a different name and showed no gameplay), the Grim Fandango remake (which, whilst not a big deal, is better than most of the other trash) and maaaaaaybe LittleBigPlanet 3, if you actually still care about that shit.
Nintendo would easily win E3 with a trailer for Zelda U, or an announcement for any other new major title with a Galaxy level of polish. There's just fuckall in the Sony and Microsoft camps, and very little third-party shit to care about other than MGSV.
3DS/Gamepad merger revision, or multiple (one more like a gamepad one more like a portable), or their actual next-gen portable which is usable as a gamepad.
WiiU now $200 without gamepad. still requires some form of gamepad to function, but that's not a problem as you can purchase one aftermarket now.
ZeldaU being not mermaids or mermaid-tier
Would you a Pokemon Crossing?
>your knee >meme arrow
Have you used the free game app that allows you see villagers on the Wii U. At the risk of being called a furry,
dat fur. If Animal Crossing U can look nearly that good it will be a day one buy for me. Playing it on the gamepad would be really comfy.
Just thinking about the quantity AND quality of the porn has given me a permanent erection.
/vp/ drawfags, PLEASE do not disappoint.
>Would you a Pokemon Crossing?
No, I fucking wouldn't
I REALLY fucking would, take my money
>wanting Donte Other M meme rehash 'games' by Japanese Phil Fish
>wanting "THE EDGE" Featuring Dante the Dragon Killer
I'm a platinumfag and I hope the game is good, and fighting giant dinosaurs with dragons in a jungle sounds awesome, but seeing how the MC looks like new dante, and it being funded by microsoft, I kind of think Microsoft is basically hiring platinum to make them a DmC, which sucked.
Mother 1 is the first in the series, but never came to burgerland
Mother 2 is the second, but was treated like the first game in a new series over in burgerland
Mother 3 has not come to burgerland, and if it did it would be called Earthbound 2
Mother 4 will come to burgerland and be called Earthbound 2, ignoring Mother 3 and scrapping any chance at US releases of 1 and 3
>Don't even know what this word salad is supposed to mean.
Is this suppose to be some clever euphemism to claim my sentence was convoluted? Because it just came off as a really clumsy double entendre.
>Just how dim are you?
How dim are you? I can't read your mind if you're talking about the end game, single player game or the 'Pokemon Meta'. Which you seem to be talking about all of them and none of them whenever it is convenient for your argument. But in reference to your last post, you clearly didn't point out which of those you were talking about. So I chose to talk about most Pokemon becoming useless in the end game.
>I can't believe I had to dumb these down for you, I thought they were completely self-explanatory. You're actually dimmer than I unfairly pre-judged you to be.
That's rich coming from someone who is using ignorance to avoid my points. At least, I hope you are.
MGSV alone will make the PS4 and Xbone edge out over the Wii U.
>tfw Nintendo will never, EVER get a Metal Gear game
>tfw Smash will always, ALWAYS be free advertising for MGS
>tfw this cycle will continue until Nintendo is finished
The future is looking
Animal Crossing + Pokemon + Tomadachi life
>MGSV alone will make the PS4 and Xbone edge out over the Wii U.
Not to someone who doesn't like Metal Gear Solid.
>tfw Nintendo will never, EVER get a Metal Gear game
How quickly a MGS fanboy forgets Twin Snakes. Though I don't blame you. It was terrible. Guess you can't claim there was never a bad MGS game, huh?
>People talking about a Pokemon MMO
>Not just a home console game with solid multiplayer features like MonHun
Just give players a wide breadth of customization on their trainer, full exploration of a continent, 3D Pokemons, all of the items that you can stuff into it, some player housing system (think Secret Bases, but probably more developed), and if you seriously want to, friend list groups and Trainer Alliances/Unions/Guilds for network play features. There is literally nothing else you need if you want the massively multiplayer experience beyond talking to randoms in a dungeon, in which case you could probably simply just put in a "Help Call" system where trainers can send out an SOS to other trainers and summon them for help into their game over the internet.
I honestly cannot think of what else you'd need. Clogged plazas full of "S>MASTERBALL 4M" and "R>BR HUEAHEUAHEUAHUAH" sound like the stupidest things imaginable, and I like to subscribe to the ideas of Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate that you can create a significantly rewarding and friendly multiplayer system simply by having rooms, lobbies, and friend lists that you can interact with and play with at any point in time.
Pokemon Crossing is Life?
Exclusive games that will release in 2014 with actual gameplay footage.
That's literally all they need to do after the shit that was today.
Nintendo doesn't reveal games till launch is in site anymore and almost always shows gameplay when they reveal stuff, so they actually have a good shot at it.
If they show
>Any Pokemon game thats not rumble or mystery
>Zelda OR Metroid that doesnt look unpolished
>Ridley or Pacman in Smash at all
They will have won this generation and burried the competition entirely
Again, what the fuck are you talking about. I quite clearly told you that weak Pokemon can be used in the single player game despite being useless in the meta. But if the ENTIRE GAME is a PVP MMO, then practically the WHOLE THING will be the meta, meaning those Pokemon will NEVER be usable in ANY CONTEXT. This is a simple point that should not have taken THREE POSTS for you to understand. But let's see how many it takes.
Life in Pokemon Crossing?
I don't even like Nintendo, and I'd say that they already have. Microsoft and Sony had the most boring press conferences this year. Their closers were Crackdown 3 and Uncharted 4? Really?
All Nintendo needs to do is show one new IP (with gameplay footage)
that none of you will buy anywayand Nintendo automatically wins.
If they don't show new IPs, then their selection has to be pretty good.
The last one was Snake Eater 3D, which is over two years ago. And besides, Nintendo got 5 MGS games in the span of 27 years, all of which are non-canon. All the good (aka canon) games are on the only console
sthat matters. Shame Nintendo won't get anything more than non-canon remakes or spinoffs, but at least you guys get Snake in a party fighter.
After seeing all the retards calling Witcher a Skyrim rehash, I really think if they showed a really hype X trailer that showed the scale of the world, the weapons, and the giant monsters people would be all on it. Obviously don't show too much actual combat since normalfags can't into non hack and slash fighting.
And that's the one thing Nintendo does pretty consistently (in addition to waiting till near release to announce, which kills all the 2015 titles), so they have this in the bag.
>start up Pokemon Crossing
>town is filled with 'mons from your least favorite gen
Time to get the Net
>I quite clearly told you that weak Pokemon can be used in the single player game
In your second post, while claiming I was an idiot for not 'understanding' it the first time when all you said was:
>or when I want to use my favourite monsters but can't because there's no point using any Pokemon that isn't uber making hundreds and hundreds of the Pokemon totally pointless,
Which could have applied to ANYTHING. And most certainly seems to be talking about the meta.
Please stop trying to take the moral high ground by retracting your statement, fixing them, then claiming someone is an idiot for not understanding them the first time. It just makes you look like the idiot. Let's see how many posts it takes you to admit you were wrong.
WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR???
MY JESUS THIS IS PERFECT!!! It's MUCH better than that stupid Pokemon MMO idea! OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD..............!!!
I wasn't calling X hack and slash, I was saying it wasn't, and when most people see rpgs they expect skyrim like combat, not pseudo turnbased like Xenoblade, and that would turn off some people.
>No Mario rehashes
>New Zelda that actually looks good
>Surprise Revival of a dead IP
>Retro cooking up something that isn't Donkey Kong
>More Monolith X footage
>Miyamoto IP that doesn't look like shit
>long awaited character reveals (like Ridley) for Smash
If they have and show at least 3 of these, then they'll win by default.
I can see it as being DLC for Animal Crossing, kind of like what they did with luigi and new super mario brothers. It wouldn't hurt pokemon sales and would just bring more interest to animal crossing.
Metroid getting a new 2D and a new 3D game.
Neglected franchisees getting some care and attention, F-zero and others that Nintendo has acquired over the years.
Three promising new IPs.
All in one press release would make them the winners of this year, and retroactively the winner of the previous years too.
>And besides, Nintendo got 5 MGS games in the span of 27 years, all of which are non-canon.
>Metal Gear NES
>Twin Snakes which is a remake of MGS1
Is your Nintendo hatred really so strong that you have to convince yourself that games from your favorite series on Nintendo platforms are somehow 'not canon'?
>Tyranitar moves in
>sandstorm all day every day
Time to nuke the town.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Did you literally just type that entire post? Did you just abandon trying to defend your stupid game idea, now? Are you really throwing that aside to focus on how I should apologise to you for hurting your fucking feelings? Why are you more concerned with your butthurt than actually talking about videogames? Address the points I made about the fucking GAME you crybaby.
Nintendo won by not having a stage show so everyone could see them take a turn shooting themself in the foot, I guess.
though it seems Microsoft did the least self-harm out of the rest.
Of course they would, which is why I said don't show too much of the actual combat. Were you here when shitposters were complaining about the combat when the second gameplay trailer for X came out? Most of it was obvious shitposting but a lot of people really would spout "singleplayer MMO" seeing it I think. And speaking of Singleplayer, do we know anything about them maybe having coop?
Kojima has personally disowned the NES Metal Gear game because he didn't work on it. He also disowned Snake's Revenge since it was an unauthorized sequel. He worked on Twin Snakes, but marketed the game as non-canon. Not sure about MGS3D, but I'm certain Kojima's Zealotry hasn't stopped him from branding it non-canon.
Zelda with a large overworld, multiple towns, much more challenging and strategic combat, the ability to sequence-break dungeons, and selectable difficulty levels.
Preferably cel-shaded, but not super-deformed like Wind Waker.
2D Metroid with beautifully animated hand-drawn sprites, with world design taking a page from Super Metroid more so than the later entries.
Maybe some new IPs or decent 3rd party exclusives.
To all the people requesting old games to be ported, think about this: hipsters like shit thats not mainstream, right? well guess what.
IF YOU DONT LIKE ANYTHING AT E3, YOU ARE A FUCKING HIPSTER PIECE OF SHIT. ENJOY YOUR NON-MAINSTREAM PRETENTIOUS OLD-GAME GARBAGE
>Kojima has personally disowned the NES Metal Gear game because he didn't work on it.
Kojima made the first Metal Gear. He didn't make Snake's Revenge. Twin Snakes is a retelling of MGS1 and sketchy at best. And if you think MGS3, the most popular and Kojima's favorite of the series, isn't canon...just wow.
Have you seen one of the more recent X trailers? I think one of them showed a chat log or a few player names above other characters I think for a few seconds, and people were expecting 4 player coop. I usually don't like shoehorned multiplayer but I think it would work.
Every single post bar the last one has been about how stupid your game idea is, laced with insults on your character which you have done nothing but vindicate. Instead of defending your dumb idea (which you now obviously can't), you choose to whine and cry about the personal insults on fucking 4chan of all places. A 100% PVP MMO Pokemon game would sap all the charm from the series, there would be no sense of adventure, progression or exploration because playing that way would inherently be punished. It would be nothing but a hub world for the metagame. Now go cry about how a bad man called you stupid.
Nintendo has everything to win, but they won´t. However, i´ll watch the e3 as a little boy waiting fot santa to give him a super console and i will just get clothes. I hate every console. I hate the fact that i am a nostalfag
>all remastered with 3D models sticking to the original style, rhythm system now in all 3 games, mother 1 completely redone to be up to par with the other two games, original games available as bonus options, fully remastered soundtrack, ability to cycle models for main characters in addition to names.
it's too bad this will never be made.
It would work. The fighting isn't that fast paced so everyone could easily keep track of each other and not clutter the screen. Nintendo should really be allowing someone to play on just the gamepad with multiplayer.
He didn't work on the NES port of Metal Gear. Seeing as Twin Snakes is a sketchy retelling of MGS1, who's to say that MGS3D is also a sketchy, non-canon retelling of MGS3? I mean he does avoid Nintendo consoles like the plague, and supports Sony consoles far more.
Actually, its been mostly me mocking you and you falling for it.
Also, I was the guy at the start who said Pokemon wouldn't work as an MMO because it would conflict with the original game (see >>247392156). If anything, I agree with your position. But you came out swinging with so many baseless assumptions and wanted an argument, so I gave it to you. While trying to indirectly point out that you were being a hypocrite by claiming I had to back up all these claims and assumptions while you just sat there flinging insults and making baseless points yourself.
In other words, you have been trolled by your own inflammatory assumptions and need to argue. I hope you had fun and learned something. But probably not.
>Implying Wind Waker was shit
Not that guy, but it was the first relatively mediocre Zelda game
in my own humble opinion.
>Implying Twilight Princess was shit
I only ever played about 5 or 10 minutes near the beginning and it was all boring fetch quests with me as a wolf. Maybe it picks up a bit after that.
>Games are not canon because they're ports
>Kojima clearly hates Nintendo because I see a pattern
My god you are either the biggest idiot inthe world or the most blind sony fanboy ever.
I'm tired of this good/bad, better/worse bullshit. I'd say Wind Waker was an unworthy sequel to Ocarina of Time, as in it's not what we wanted. TP, on the other hand, was a worthy sequel.
Everyone has a Zelda game they don't like. Please don't bring the Zelda fanboys in here to argue over this. We don't need 100 posts of 'my favorite zelda is best' and fapping over Majora's Mask.
I agree. Let's hope Dragon Quest VII and X get announced tomorrow at Nintendo conference.
And pigs will fly.
>What would Nintendo have to do to win e3?
>Pac-man, Shantae, Ghirahim and Bomberman or Belmont/Alucard (Replaces Snake) in Smash Brothers
>Monolith X trailer and release date
>Bayonetta 2 trailer and release date
>Zelda U trailer
>Pokemon fighters trailer and gameplay
>Pokemon Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire trailer and gameplay
>New 2D metroid for 3ds
>New Starfox for Wii U
>Bravely Second Trailer and Gameplay
>1 new IP (preferably rpg or adventure) for either 3DS or Wii U
All of it extremely doable and could easily beat out Sony and Microsoft.
If Nintendo were to announce Kingdom Hearts 3 on the Wii U than that alone would make me hyped. Plus, i think it'd be fun to play it with the Wii-mote lol
>Pac-man, Shantae, Ghirahim and Bomberman or Belmont/Alucard (Replaces Snake) in Smash Brothers
Super Mario Galaxy 3 or a new Star Fox would do it for me. I love Halo and I love Uncharted, but not enough to warrant buying a next gen console yet. I'll wait til there is extensive library of games all around.
The females like it, but don't actually buy or play the game.
Technically they've already won, because they're bringing over Monster Hunter 4 next year. That's one more game than I'll buy from Sony or Microsoft.
It would make my day to see them set a WiiU on fire, though. Get with the times, you know.
Kingdom Hearts is basically the typical recycled Shounen storyline. The story is not that much different than Naruto mixed with a typical CLAMP plot.
So of course 'men' like it. As much as I hate Kingdom Hearts, Nomura really knows what he is doing. Making a series that appeals to both guys and girls equally. At least some guys and some girls.
Halfway through the direct
>"Here's a trailer we hope you enjoy."
>Fade to black
>Fade into crowd, drawn anime-style.
>Voices can be heard chanting faintly.
>Voices slowly fade in louder
>"E...B...A....! E...B...A! E...B..A..!"
>Music begins to beat of crowd chanting
>"We Will Rock You" By Queen
>At guitar riff, Agent J and Morris and Derek show up on screen
>ARE YOU READY?
>Cue screen swipe to game play footage of Elite Beat Agents 2 with We Will Rock You still playing in the background
>3DS release spring 2015
>Will have DLC
>Not cover songs
>At the end of the Direct
>Smash Bros. Logo appears a la character reveal trailer
>Everyone loses their shit
>fade to black
>Phoenix Wright defends his ground!
Oh my god I would cum my pants twice...
>not shilling for a specific company
This will never end.
Even if the proprietary consoles dies out.
Even if steambox suceeds.
There's still intel, there's still AMD, there's still Nvidia, there's still GoG, Steam, Windows, Linux...
To not mention that if the Steamboxes actually succeed, they will do that by having several different companies manufacturing it, and you will have the dellfags, the acerfags, the HPfags, the XFXags...
We can't. If Nintendo has a conference like last year, we literally can't praise them, because there will be nothing to praise.
It's not like Sonyggers are painting out their conference (Alpha? White PS4? This is what you're starting with, are you fucking kidding me?) as god's gift to man.
>At the end of the Direct
>Smash Bros. Logo appears a la character reveal trailer
>Everyone loses their shit
>it zooms out and reveals to be klonoa's hat
>/v/ starts to fap furiously
>implying this doesn't happen in every medium
Vidya definitely has it worse but go on /lit/ sometime and see how they argue about authors and genres. Not nearly as bad, but people will fanboy anything.
Given the way the human race is proceeding, furries probably will be people with nanorobots.
But this is what will kill "furries" as we know it.
"Be an anthromorphic dog" will not be special anymore, will be just like using a red shirt instead of a white one.
Any sort of furry talk of "look! i'm actually a dog!" would end with "ah, cool, i weared that one last week, but now i'm dressing a cyborg suit!"
this will be the press conference that kills the Wii U, after 18 years everyone is tired of the ,"we're superior to the gaijins even if the last creative idea we had was back in 96" attitude
But well, supposing Steambox wins, and every videocard manufacturer and prebuilt computer manufacturer turns out to have their own fanbase for its own steambox, what would be the worst fanbase?
everyone in this thread knows Nintendo is not making a new metroid, star fox, f zero or anything remotely interesting. Nintendo has evolved into a company that is afraid of its own games
Sometimes it may surprise you.
I mean, i was expecting microsoft to shot at the audience with a machinegun, but instead they just did a decentish show cathering for the original Xbox audience.
Except for the conker shit of course, That was bullshit.
God that conker was bullshit. I thought I was over the rare thing, then they have to shove it in our faces. And the microsoft e3 was good for microsoft and it actually seemed like they were trying, even though most of it was cinematic shit.
So yes, nintendo may attempt to try just as hard, and well, with nintendo actually trying, it might be just terribly good.
Also that losses in the budget that nintendo had in the last two months probably arent from gross money mismanagement.
Nintendo has made plenty of older games. This is the company that rebooted ExciteBike and Kid Icarus. And they have made multiple Metroid, Star Fox and F-Zero games in the last 3 gens. Even if they weren't exactly the ones you wanted.
This isn't SquareEnix or Konami we're talking about. Who have actively killed their series focusing on only one series.
>Actually watching the cutscenes in any KH after the first
Well if you look at the attention that space flight sims are getting recently, people would absolutely give a shit about Star Fox and with Metroid Prime being one of the best received games of the Gamecube era. People give a shit you fucking shill.
Remember how /v/ exploded when they first showed Super Mario 3D World?
>shows Mario in a tiny circle view
>iris in to show playable Luigi, Peach and Toad
>all that multiplayer
>that weird fucking cat power
Galaxy was incredibly plain, though. 3D World had a much more entertaining aesthetique and ease of play. Not to mention the multiplayer having an implicit competitive element that brought new meaning by chucking people off stage and beating on them.
I played the game sure. the story is cringy but I can skip that shit.
>tfw newer generation of people liked stories more than gameplay that they want to have a skip button on the actual game just to see the cutscene.