Yuri Game Thread

Recent News:
SeaBed picked up for English translation
Rumors that something may be happening with Akai Ito
Pygmalion due out at the end of February
Rising Angels Fates Allegiance released

>>2268894
>Rising Angels Fates Allegiance released
Uh, is this the one that was crowdfunded fucking forever ago and that I should have had an email in my inbox about? I've had a lot of patience, but I'm finally annoyed.

Senran Kagura Estival Versus is getting ported on Steam alongside Ikki Tousen DLC http://gematsu.com/2017/02/senran-kagura-estival-versus-coming-pc-march-battle-vixens-dlc-launches-simultaneously

Sweet fantasy on Greenlight http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=863662945

Alpha's Adventures on Greenlight http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=864752640

>>2268894
>Pygmalion due out at the end of February
Is this going to be any good? The plot looks unusual in yuri vn at least.

>>2268921
From what I've heard, it's an edgy action story with secondary yuri. Looks fucking lovely.

>>2268921
Yuri in it is pretty tame. Tamer than Aoi Shiro.

And the older girl character is hetero IIRC.

>>2268921
>>2268925
If I remember right also no happy ending(s).

>>2268933
Yeah it's not really good. I wouldn't recommend it.

>>2268933
And I instantly lose interest.

>>2268940
same, but I wasn't that interested in it to begin with. the screenshots are a mix between cute yuri and what the fuck is going on american action movie.

>>2268933
Well that's a shame.

>>2268894
Alpha's adventures is on greenlight:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=864752640
You don't get to decide what is news and what isn't.

>>2268963
That was mentioned >>2268908

>>2268963
>those comments
I don't know what I expected.

>>2268967
Why did you make me look?

>>2268967
>>2268969
All anime-looking adult visual novels have basically the same set of comments nowadays

>>2268894
Huh? Has Success announced something?

>>2268971
Pretty sure Success announced being dead. I think the rumours were mostly about Akaiito getting picked up for translation. Though nothing concrete about it.

>>2268967
Dare I ask? Is it Youtube comment tier?

>>2268974
Yes, that should be of no surprise.

>>2268974
Pretty much. Good spread of every kind of offended normie and autismo in there.

>>2268932
>Tamer than Aoi Shiro.
Meh.

>>2268907
Yeah. Same.

>>2268971
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v8f8gzT-wCgbmKmhTvqoMTAux965OpR3Er7_e8u502Y/edit

>>2268973
Success is well alive, there just shovel ware devs now. They ported Aoishiro to a mobile format last year. But thats basically the most notable thing they've done with the IP in the last 9 years.

>>2268907
Probably not, I think it's yet another spinoff
https://idhas.itch.io/rising-angels-fates-allegiance

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I would love Steam implement a remote play kind of feature that lets me play VNs using a mobile phone on the go. Or port these VNs to Android. Damn I want to read through Love Ribbon.

>>2268894
Don't forget Atelier Firis next month.

>>2268983
That doesn't really assuage my irritation desu. At least it's pay what you want.

>>2268985
Most Steam OELVNs are using Ren'Py which is (supposed to be?) compatible with Android.

>>2268995
I certainly hope that's the case. Having access to all of the VNs I purchased and they're easily accessible through Steam's app is very convenient.

>>2268907
Knowing him, he probably was kidnapped by his day job right after release.

>>2268983
Yeah, it was the one he announced late last year. I think it is going to end up being the canon one; rumor has it he keeps losing CG artists and is preparing to quit and refund everyone.

It's a good story so far though. I don't think it is of much interest to /u/ since it is focused on the adventure instead of the romance like last time.

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.auer.eoa.zhtw01
Empire of angels female only world so everyone is a lesbian

>>2269050
A yuri JRP with great art? Oh my god. Why hasn't anyone mentioned this before?

>>2269056
Just came out and it got buried due to Google play removing the new game category. May or may not be still in sea soft launch

>>2269058
Is the game playable without micro transactions?

>>2269061
Yea the events are generous with gems and characters, if you wanna stay on top of pvp you'll need to whale though.

>>2269062
Is the PVE fun?

>>2269050
There seems to be a Steam game of this which is named Empire of Angels IV.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/562470/

>>2269077
That doesn't look like the same game

>>2269078
Has anyone tried the mobile and Steam games? They look both intriguing, hopefully.

>>2269077
Yeah, not the same game but I think they might be from the same company, pretty sure it's the same universe but different characters and gameplay. Mobile is an action rpg, that game on steam is a srpg

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Apparently VA-11 Hall-A had a new ending added in the recent update

>>2269099
How's the gameplay? Good xrpg or standard for the format?

>>2269062
Is it available for IOS?

>>2269084
Tried both and both are fun, the steam version is an srpg with a lighthearted story(no major consequences or death) the mobile is a arpg gacha game with a darker story(death, loss of loved ones etc) both are set in the same universe in a female only lesbian wonderland

>>2269107
According to the community hub news, they added a remastered prologue (which was originally a standalone demo/promo, as far as I know), not an ending.

Love Ribbon is getting a free epilogue DLC.

>>2269140
Nice

>>2269120
that picture isn't from the prologue or demo

>>2269140
The ending was was good enough but it felt like it needed more. Glad razz added it for free.

>>2269140
Where did you hear this?

>>2269168
Patreon post

>First off, a huge massive thank you to all the fans of Love Ribbon! I was overjoyed to see so much support for LR in terms of steam reviews, overseas interest, and so many nice comments about the game.

>I’m currently working on a free “DLC” type update that will add additional an epilogue piece to Love Ribbon. This will feature the two in more cute situations after the good end, as well as answering the question: How does Iris’ father react to their relationship?

>>2269140
>>2269170
yey~

>>2269170
Sweet. But this really makes me wish that razz worked on a DLC for Starlight Vega too, even if it was a paid one.
I just want more of best grill Scherza.

>>2269194
This

>>2269303
Pity she's so obnoxiously straight.

>>2269144
I believe it's from a NG+ ending. It's not new, it's been there since the release of the game.
I might be wrong, however.

>>2268981
>They ported Aoishiro to a mobile format last year

Interesting.

>>2269381
NG+ ending?

>>2269486
Nevermind, I was wrong. They did add more story bits related to Anna in the recent update, it just didn't trigger for me until I reloaded the final day and "completed" the game again.

>>2269493
So basically just start a new game?

>>2269512
No. In the main menu, there's now a plus icon in the top left corner. Clicking on in will expand it. After I finished the prologue, the demo and "completed" the game again, I got a new option under "Anna". When I say "after", though, I don't mean I checked it every time I did something. I just finished all the new stuff, checked the last day for any additional endings and then decided to check the "Anna" section again, which is when I noticed it.
I'm not sure which action exactly triggered it. Maybe you just need to do one thing, but, eh.

>>2269170
>Razz's Patreon
>Not even 900 bucks
>Whilesome scammers that post an update for their little ongoing projects once in a blue moon and get the big fat bucks
That's just unfair.

>>2269517
Life isn't fair, little sister.

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>>2269552
>>2269517

>>2269552
>>2269556
Yeah I know. Even the good developers of regular porn games with steady updates get just a few bucks in comparision to the scammers.

>>2269559
Unfortunately business is usually more about bullshit than results.

>>2269517
Razz gets a lot of money considering the quality of the products she puts out.

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>>2269641

>>2269517
I just saw someone on deviantart that got a non-colored picture from pixiv, colored it and then asked for patreon donations. Even if you credit the japanese dude (he posted a link to the dude's profile, but I don't know if he asked if he could color it), fuck you. You didn't draw the thing and want to get money for it?

>>2269642
I'll never not laugh at this fucking face, who the fuck okay'd this

>>2269644
I mean, such thing as a colorist exists. What he did was retarded and wrong, yes, but people getting payed for coloring things they don't draw themselves is perfectly normal.

>>2269664
I don't think that anon implies colorists don't exist but what that guy does is basically stealing a pic, color it, and asking other people to pay for it. He's not even commissioned by the original artist to do it.

>>2269671
This. And the non-colored pictured was made for free. Then some random person shows up, colors it and begs for money. What the hell.

By the way, is it even legal to make money off fanarts like that? You are using someone else's intellectual property to make money, and most of these artists on patreon seem so damn greedy, much more greedy than people who sell porn doujin.

The fanart/fanfic scene used to be just for fun, but some people are turning it into bussiness.

>>2269688
I think having a patreon for writing is pretty reasonable, and very, very few people are actually good enough to get more than $10-20 a month from it which is literally just a meal at a restaurant for what is probably more than an hour+ of work.

>>2269671
As I said, I understand that what that guy did was wrong. I'm just saying that
>You didn't draw the thing and want to get money for it?
is okay, as long as both the artist and the colorist work together.

>>2269688
Selling fan art is technically illegal, but nobody cares. No big studio would pursue people for drawing their characters for money, and smaller creators are usually fine with it because fanart basically advertises their work. Both sides win in this. I can think of a few cases where fanart is harmful rather than beneficial, but it almost never happens.

Although it is a bit of a gray area. For example, selling fanart that parodies the original is legal, because in that case it falls under fair use. Or, for example, if you draw a picture of girls banging when they don't bang in the original material, it can be considered transformative. Basically, it's a bit of a mess.

>>2269698
Most people seem to demand $10-20 per person though. So if a bunch of people paid that, it would be a big amount.

And if they want to be artists as their main job, they should probably do original content rather than fanart. I mean, if you produce original content for money, that is ok. What is weird is wanting to live off making fanarts (without having any other job at all).

>>2269709
Why not? They still put time and effort into making fanart, and doing commissions is a good way to get your career started. It's pretty hard to get recognized doing stuff that literally nobody cares about, and with fanart you can get both practice and a loyal fanbase.

>>2269715
I get the feeling comissions were different from patreon. The customer would pay for like 1 picture and that was it. With patreon you have the artist demanding like $10 per patron every month, and some people don't want to get any job, they only want to live off patreon money (just like youtubers).

And that is the problem with fanarts: your main and ONLY job will be making art off other people's property. I guess it's okay if you make a few fanarts, but I think if you want to be an artist as your main job, you should focus on original content. Just like all artists outside internet.

>>2269731
I feel that visual artists in general have really struck gold with patreon. Writers much less so.

>>2269733
No kidding. I wish I could find a way to make writing lesbian fiction actually pay my bills.

>>2269731
I don't usually see any minimal payment for artists' Patreons starting at $10. Usually it's $1. Then again, I don't usually check people's Patreons, so my experience is limited.

>And that is the problem with fanarts: your main and ONLY job will be making art off other people's property.
You still spend time and effort making art off other people's property. I would understand if we were talking about people literally tracing characters, putting them on their blog and getting money from it. But most fanart is transformative in nature, putting characters in situations they aren't show in in the original material, trying out new styles, new looks, etc.

I get what you're saying, but there are more "gradations", for the lack of a better word, to being an artist, than just "MS Paint Pro" and "professional artist". Some people just want to draw blasphemic gay sex with their favorite characters, and some people want to see their favorite artists draw, so they pay money to support them. If fan artists/writers/whoever didn't have any way to make a living, we'd be seeing way less fan art/fiction/whatever (>inb4 that's a good thing). Not every artist wants to be a part of some grand project, drawing concepts for enormous game studios or whatever professional artists are doing nowadays.

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>>2269735
>tfw

>>2269735
Right-o. I've thought of opening up shop for smut commissions in general people only ever commission smut but the going rate of just over a cent per word really isn't worth the time. I've yet to see any writer make more than few hundred at most a month, while it feels like every other patreon artist drawing a handful of pictures a month is breaking 1000$.

>>2269735
That's basically the life story of the artist/writer relationship.

>>2269741
Who does that pile of money belong to?

>>2269742
I'm still banking on getting actual novels published. I just can't see a way to make money from patreon when it takes (at best) 6 months to write a book.

>>2269746
>Who does that pile of money belong to?
The guy making Trials in Tainted Space. Although technically there's a small team working on the project, so I assume it's split between them. Still, the number is constantly growing. Now it's $27,5k per month.
You'd think with these heaps of cash they would commission art for every interactable character already, but nah.

>>2269746
Indie self-publishing really looks to be the next big thing. I've heard some smut writers have made loads of profit by cranking out ungodly amounts of smut for Kindle and getting paid by the pageview, but you really have to crank out material at a crazy pace to make more than a pittance.

>>2269747
I feel that at some point, these campaigns run into the same issue that huge charities do: there's no incentive to ever get anything done as long as the cash keeps flowing in.

>>2269735
join us in the dark world of selling yuri EVNs

>>2269750
Well, there's the public backlash. It's a small incentive, but still.
And then there's the personal passion for the project. Although Fenoxo's track record is questionable in that regard.

>>2269753
I think that patreon is a recipe for disaster when it comes to funding singular projects. Kickstarter was often a shitshow, but after the dev received the lump sum of cash, they at least had every incentive of finishing it if they ever wished to fund another campaign through kickstarter. On patreon, it works the other way around. Once enough attention has been generated towards a single project, it makes sense to drag it out as long as possible, promising more and more instead of ever finishing it. Finishing a project cuts off the cashflow and the next one might not be able to garner the kind of interest that the first one did.

>>2269735
If you make a serious yuri vn addressing homosexuality, there is a 99% chance I will buy it.

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>>2269763

>>2269738
Yes, they need talent and effort to make good fanart. But they are still breaking copyrights and making money out of it. Let's say the artist drew 2 original characters fucking, maybe not many people would notice. But if he drew 2 famous characters fucking, more people would see his work. So even if his piece is different from the source material (the characters don't fuck in the original material), the fans still only paid attention to him because they recognized the characters. He used a brand he doesn't own to get money.

And nobody said being an artist is easy, some only become famous after they die.

>>2269738
Most of the times I see the $1 option, the "perks" are things like "you have my gratitude xD". Meanwhile people who pay more get better stuff.

>>2269766
>But they are still breaking copyrights
As I said already, some fan art falls under fair use. And you're allowed to monetize things that fall under fair use, even if you don't own them. See: literally any YouTuber making money playing games, reacting to videos, reviewing movies, etc.

>He used a brand he doesn't own to get money.
This might seem unfair, but it's not illegal in most circumstances when it comes to fan works.

>And nobody said being an artist is easy, some only become famous after they die.
That's... not a very good argument.

>>2269771
Well, you aren't forced to pay for perks. If all you want is to support the artist, you're free to pay any sum you want. Perks generally involve something extra, and are used as an incentive to get people to pay more. But you usually (if we're talking about decent artists) get access to all "normal" stuff, as in, pictures, regardless of whether you pay anything or not.

One major exception to this I've heard of is artists putting their NSFW works behind a paywall, which is a pretty bad practice. Especially when said artists became popular by drawing porn in the first place, and then decided to cut the free stuff because "muh Patreon".

>>2269765
Anon said serious not wish fulfillment of some trans author D fetish.

>>2269763
>>2269765
10/10

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>>2269763
If you want a serious VN addressing homosexuality you should play Real Life. I hear it has a lot of choices and bad ends.

The best part is it's completely free to play.

>>2269846
Shit story, way too much grinding, and worst of all, it's completely unrealistic.

>>2269846
You've got to be kidding me, the protagonist of that video game is a het male, wtf are you talking about

:^)

>>2269857
That's an anti-pirate protection, silly anon. That's what you get for being a poorfag. All normal people are playing as beautiful oneesamas.

>>2269763
Its called Kindred Spirits on the Roof.

>>2269846
>completely free to play.

If you want to die in the first zone. You have to pay to progress at all, and even to do basic things like eat prepared food and sleep indoors.
Pay to win bullshit.

>>2269860
I own that, I pre-ordered it. It's a bit frivolous for my tastes, but I enjoyed it nonetheless, and even teared up a bit.

>>2269735
what's stopping you?

>>2269846
It's free to play but pay to win.

>>2269908
d/a but middling inspiration and a lack of ambition to go through with it anyway are doing a good job at stopping me

>>2269910
and surprisingly difficult to buy extra routes

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Welp

>>2269735
make a yuri vn that fits my tastes and you have a supporter

>>2269927
what are your tastes?

>>2269952
well-written

>>2269957
I can write well. It's all the other stuff that goes into making something worthy of being sold that I'm unclear on.

>>2269952
i have many but pretty much 'little lily princess' so 'loli' but with different settings and story like fantasy detective or something interesting. Anyone know if there might be another little lily princess in the making?, that game is my number 1

>>2269972
you might like ebi-himes stuff. she's done loli before

>>2269962
Just make a webnovel. No talent needed other than writing.

Actually, no talent needed, including writing. You just need hard work and guts and regular updates, which have the benefit of making you better at writing to begin with.

>>2269978
ive played the strawberry one which was good though i really like multiple routes and choices and little lily also had a little gameplay and story was really interesting in my opinion.

was trying to think of what made me like the game so much but it would be too long for a spoiler, it just really hit all the buttons for what i want in my VN. Character/story telling was biggest part though.

>>2268933
Pretty sure there's the true end where MC goes back in time, becomes a real girl and meets her friends again?

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[paleontology] SeaBed
https://exhentai.org/g/1028934/38843073ae/

>>2269972
I'd be happy to do another game with cute young girls but I don't dare take it past 'cute', which makes it difficult when much simpler games with h-scenes sell a lot more copies.

Although I'm now amusedly trying to come up with scenarios where I can explain stranding a bunch of young girls in a spaceship and making them fend for themselves.

>>2270188
>Cute girls stranded in space
Didn't know I was into this, would definitely read

I've started dabbling in writing yuri.

What are some good VNs I could play for inspiration?

Also, is there anything universally hated when it comes to yuri? I'm still rather new to the genre.

I'm sure it's been asked before, but I can't find it in the last few threads:

Does Tyranny have some subtext? Just curious, because I'm undecided about buying it.

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>>2270231
I have played it a few hours and haven't come up anything like that in it for your character but there is lesbian blacksmith with her wife. It has pretty interesting character creation though.

>>2270224
Ladykiller in a Bind and Sweet Volley High are perfect examples of what NOT to do.

>>2270231
Tyranny doesn't really deal with anything like that in any meaningful way. The extent of /u/ in it comes down to some female side characters that just happen to be married to women.

>>2270224
Like the above, you should play Ladykiller and Sweet volley High. Its basically a guide on how to get a /u/ lynch mob after you.

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>>2270224
>Also, is there anything universally hated when it comes to yuri?
This here >>2270241 was exactly what I was about to post.

>>2270248
Plot proposal: A lonely lesbian shut-in intends to make a yuri game that is awful on purpose to fulfill her hidden desire of being kidnapped and ravished by the legendary Yuri Lynch Mob, which targets bad yuri authors and corrects them through the purest form of rape. However, she fails even at failing and the resulting game ("Springtime for Lilies") is enormously successful, attracting a massive personal fanbase. She must now learn to become an elegant onee-sama in order not to ruin their dreams.

>>2270224
>>2270227
>>2270241
>>2270248
Let me save you a lot of time and spare you the grief of having to do something awful: don't have your lesbian characters have sex with guys. Surprise straight sex is the single most common and most hated trope in lesbian media. Most people were tired of it the first time they came across it, and the people that weren't are actually either bi or something more complicated that I don't care to go into.

There are people that can tolerate it, people that didn't know they were lesbian until after experimenting. That's ok, it happens, and it can be ok to explore that at times but you need to do it with the right nuance, and most people do not handle it well. If you don't have personal experience with it, or a very deep understanding of the psychology involved and the concept of how to portray it in a way that isn't offensive, just don't do it.

>>2270260
The only girl I've beaten in rock paper scissors is the cute retard.

>>2270224
Futanari and tentacles are absolutely forbidden by this board.

>>2270284
I don't mind if they're feminine tentacles

>>2270285
/r/ing a tentacle monster blushing at her tentacle onee-sama and holding a bouquet of lily flowers.

>>2270285
I also don't, but we're a minority

>>2270272
I've never understood how it can be so fucking difficult to comprehend. If it says YURI on the tin, then it better not have a bunch of het halfway through.

>>2270272
>don't have your lesbian characters have sex with guys
It's so simple to follow.

>>2270278
I always go with scissors. Draws feel like a win.

>>2270287
I understand you gotta draw a line somewhere though

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>>2270291

>>2270224
Also, the only toys /u/ seems to really accept are when there used in Bondage scenes, so I wouldn't add them unless you have a mind for that.

>>2270294
Why is that? Personally, I think more toys is better.

>>2270294
I think opinion is much more divided on toys desu. Generally I don't care for them personally because I just don't think they're used well.

>>2270294
I don't like them but they're not a deal breaker for me either. I prefer the more "pure" approach to things. Feels more personal.

However (Sapphism no Gensou spoilers) the strap-on rape scene was executed tastefully for lack of a better word. I think, because I already see toys as less intimate and colder, it really fit the scene and the character in question.

>>2270272
I feel like I worded the last part wrong and the idea of people taking it the wrong way tilts me enough to further explain. There's a big difference between explaining a person's sexual history, and outright assaulting your audience with it. It shouldn't need to be pointed out but somehow people just don't seem to get it.

spoiler for shit people don't need to be reminded of
1.Walking in on love interest fucking guy is a NO
2.Any lesbian getting raped or coerced into sex with a guy is a NO
3.Characters deciding they need to have sex with a guy to make sure they're a lesbian is a NO
I'm sure there's more but if you can't figure it out from those examples just stop. Apologies for ranting.

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>>2270294
I like them, but I'm not vocal about it.

>>2270302
Now wouldn't it be better if they were closer? In each other's arms? It would be more lovely. I guess I'm too vanilla for toys.

In my opinion toys work better with domineering/controlling characters that like to tease.

>>2270294
Toys are fine, so long as they're used in moderation. The problem comes from them being put into virtually every scene of a work.
So long as the majority of scenes don't involve them, it should be fine to have a scenes with toys here and there.

>>2270304
That's when you get her to lie in your arms and tease her with the vibe.

>>2270314
I immediately thought of this http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/flower_picking

>>2270317
It's a pretty good execution of the idea desu. I think the problem with toys in a lot of yuri is that the artists just use them as a stand-in for dicks instead of considering the ideal way two female parties would use them. That's probably why the bdsm scenes are usually hotter. At least they're being used ideally in that setting.

I think that LL doujin is also really good,
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_dogs_desire_and_the_reality_of_discipline

>>2270304
Well, they're not lovers. That scene's about a girl who has come to get help (to help her come) from members of a school club for girls who love masturbation.

>>2270264
I got your reference.

>>2270188
i rewrote that post so much but yeah im happy with no h-scenes since lily didn't have any and really its great having a break from h-games hugs and sharing beds are great scene replacers in my opinion.

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I'm pretty sure I installed the patch prior to playing and while I did see some lewd moments like the masturbation scene and this scene, part of me thinks the patch isn't working because all of the lewd moments Iris mentioned were just text recollections. Or perhaps these are the actual lewd scenes?

Blue Reflection bossfight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOn3Uhg43G8

>>2270377
No actual nudity until later, even with the patch

>>2270379
That's reassuring to hear, thanks.

>>2270381
>To know if the h-scenes are in the game, if you don’t see a purple message anywhere on the title screen, you’re golden!
This is what the page says about it, btw

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>>2270384
That's a relief.

>>2270378
>4:03 retard-chan assist

>>2270290
I wonder why so many people fail at it though.

>>2270294
Strap-ons are fine as long as they don't look like a realistic male genital. (yes, this kind of shit exists)

>>2270391
At a guess? Some of them approve of het sex and think that should be an option on the table (male authors and bi sluts). Some of them have the amateur author's desperate, deep-seated desire to be Edgy and Controversial, so they feel an almost overwhelming urge to throw some shit into the pot. And some have been programmed by previous media to think that what they're including is 'normal' and expected, so it just naturally works its way into the story without thinking about it. That last is the common explanation for a lesbian character revealing that she previously slept with a man, or kissing a man, to prove to herself that she's not into guys. That doesn't usually get into the story because the author thinks het is hot, but because they think it's a natural part of the progression, or even a clearer way to say that the character is TRULY 100% GAY.

>>2270391
As much as I hate using this particular scapegoat... SJWs

>>2270397
that's, like, exactly the opposite of the reason, though? in general they're the people most offended by it. yes, there are exceptions having to do with individuals, but this is the silliest possible place to blame SJWs. blame them for covering up loli nipples or something more logical instead.

>>2270401
I don't know what else to call people who support this practice of false advertisement and playing a victim. Other than retards, maybe.

There were even individuals who called those who openly stated their negative opinion about the game and the author that decided to put those scenes in "transphobic". If it's not a shining example of SJW, uh, -ism, I don't know what is.

some of the worst jerks hide behind everything, there are 4channers trying to get all VNs taken off steam, lets not derail into bashing individuals, let's just enjoy love

>>2270407
>I don't know what else to call people
idiots? jerks?
I'm not denying there are assholes out there, but this is a bad issue to try and declare all social-justicey people your enemy on. I've been to other forums that are very into progressive politics and were horrified and offended by what happened with That Game and went on huge rampages against her and swore that they would never buy anything she wrote ever again, etc. These people have /u/'s opinion! What is gained by declaring them to be the enemy?

Tons of angry tumblr lesbians will get their shit-kicking boots on if someone suggests that all lesbians deep down really love the dick. They are not your adversaries.

As for SOME of the negative opinions expressed being transphobic - you can't really deny that some of them were and are, it's kind of obviously the case. It's just that it was hardly the only reason to object.

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>>2270408
>enjoy love
And buttstuff

>>2270411
Am I a terrible sister if I took the option to chicken out of the buttstuff?

>>2270411
That's two VNs in which Razz puts in yuri buttstuff.
I hope she continues, because yuri buttstuff in VNs is despairingly rare. I also hope she dedicates an entire scene to it, because that one wasn't as detailed as the 'regular' cunnilingus one.

>>2270410
You're a smart and reasonable oneesama.

>>2270413
Yes you are.

>>2270413
How can you say you love her if you won't even let her finger your butt?

>>2270413
Yes. #notmyonee-sama

>>2270413
I think it's interesting that you can make the choice. I think h-scenes should be more interactive. consent sim was halfway good with this with the massage branches

>>2270413
I respect your right to chicken out anon. But yuri with buttstuff is my nirvana.

>>2270410
But I'm not talking about leftists, or people into progressive politics, or anybody else. "SJW" has virtually no positive connotation, it's all negative. Nobody in their right mind proudly calls themselves an SJW and means it. It's not like calling people, say, "leftists" in a negative way, because then yes, you're using a neutral word that defines one's political views as an insult.

>you can't really deny that some of them were and are
I'm specifically talking about cases where any criticism towards Whatshername was considered transphobic, whether it had actually anything to do with transes or not.

>>2270413
You're not terrible, it just means she gets to take more time coaxing you into it. Maybe some night after she exhausts your mind with sex, she'll slip in the offer again and you'll be too high on pleasure to say no.

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An announcement page from Galette issue 1: Sore wa Koi dato Kanojo wa Itta

Planned for 2017 Summer. Both an ADV and SLG? Just a short one: estimated as an hour for all routes.

I think http://yu-mo.net/ is the developer.

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>>2270410
Most people on tumblr don't like man x woman, but they love woman x transwoman. They shit on all lesbians who dislike dick, try to force them to like it and call them all sorts of bad things like TERF, transphobic, bigot, vagina fetishist.

>>2270429
... i would probably be more into it this way yes
take advantage of me pls

>>2270435
>Most people on tumblr
Okay, I dislike tumblr as much as any other anon, but you're really reaching here. Most people on tumblr repost low quality porn gifs and """comedy""", and that's the extent of their activity there.

I wonder if it is possible to write a relationship between sisters that is both strictly sisterly and still highly sexual in nature while making it clear that neither sister wants an actual serious romantic relationship with each other.
Basically friends with benefits but with sisters. 'Sisters with benefits', if you will.

>>2270446
>strictly sisterly and still highly sexual
I don't get it. Are you talking about high sexual tension or about them actually banging? Because I don't think banging constitutes as "strictly sisterly".

>>2270447
I don't know, I've read some fiction in which siblings (especially twins) did non-romantic sexual stuff with each other _because_ they were siblings and had no body modesty towards each other.

I mean who else are you going to trust to hold the vibrator steady?

>>2270446
>sisters who love each other and fuck but never want to be together romantically
This disgusts me.

>>2270452
I have mixed feelings on it, the idea of them getting together for sex even though their actual love interests are busy is hot, but having them secretly harboring a desire to deepen the relationship is equally good

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This game will be the end of me

>>2270471
It's hard to knee someone properly when you're on one knee. Although it's perfectly possible to balance, you're going lose a lot of power and reach.

>>2270431
>I think http://yu-mo.net/ is the developer.
>http://www.yu-mo.net/01hime/

whoa momono moto yuri games? i never knew i wanted this so much. is that new game gonna be free like that himegimi game is?

>>2270549
At the bottom it says it's planned to be free or about 100 yen

>>2270551
yeah i noticed that right after i posted. also noticed the mobile platforms in addition the pc so thats neat as well.

>>2270410
can i get links to these forums? i've never seen any outrage outside of /u/ and gaters that hate the dev for other reasons

>>2270549
Wasn't there another momono moto game that came out last year? I remember seeing pictures of it here.

>>2270452
You imply this happens so often it's a thing to be disgusted by.

Oh, Japan. Why does everything always have to be about peeing?

>>2270614
there was? all i found was this from 2012: https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2136619461999045801/2136703840979210903
but it doesnt even have its own page on the yu-mo site.

>>2270446
Gamma

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If I take the test, I /may/ miss Zoey's big day and there's a chance Iris might catch up.

If I skip the test and go with Zoey, I'll miss the test and Iris will lose her scholarship, and get figuratively fucked.

HELP ;_;

>>2270696
Expect not-entirely-logical drama to happen either way.

>>2270696
quick save and do both you dyke. Then pick your favorite.

>>2270696
>not picking a chance to bang your sister over your entire future immediately
Are you a fucking pussy or what? Do it.

>>2270696
If she loved you, she'd want you to take the test

>>2270696
>not choosing your family
>not choosing that sweet sister pussy

>>2270696
Yuri incest is always the answer.

>>2270702
Yeah. Fuck that bitch.

>>2270712
That's the point of the game.

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>>2270698
>>2270699
>>2270701
>>2270702
>>2270703
>>2270705
I eventually picked the 2nd option. I'd rather have immediate secks than postponed secks (if this option is even possible after picking the test option).

>>2270714
Congratulations. You are very good at being a teenager.

>Test results came in
>100% blood related
>Zoey: "B-But it's illegal to fuck your own sister!"
>Just spent the rest of the semester feeling up Iris.

>>2270760
>>2270726
Quit blogging shitter. We don't need to know the obvious

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>>2270762
Geez, fine, whatever.

>>2270763
How many times do you have to be told to stop avatarposting before it sinks in?

What is /u/ opinion on Seduce Me?

>>2270808
Well I'd have to know how you look first. I'll warn you now, my strike zone is 8 and up

>>2270808
it's okay for something that is free. you get force kissed by the creepy redhead dude no matter what you choose, and diana's route (the best one) is rather hard to understand if you haven't completed the other male routes and clearly meant to be played dead last. the other two girls routes are copy/paste of eachother and don't matter in the sequel.

speaking of the sequel, diana apparently fucks some other male incubi and you can have a threesome end? i'm just going off what someone here told me. i didn't like seduce me enough to spend ten dollerydoos on seduce me 2.

>>2270471
>kneeing on one knee
GJ, whomever did this

>>2270482
I can't argue with this logic.

Does Atelier Sophie have actual yuri in it or is it just girls doing cute sutff?

>>2270870
Atelier has no romances in general. Mostly just teasing and shipping. So it's CGDCT. The most blatant and romantically charged pair are Mimi and Totori in Meruru.

That said Sophie and Plachta do appear intimate and flirty in Firis.

>>2270696
I really should get around playing this.

What other some newer games that have incest as their main focus?

>>2270875
Tsui Yuri. It's godlike.
Also Sono Hanabira New Generation.
Also Flowers 3.

>>2270879
It's far from a focus in Flowers

>>2270880
Yeah it's not really a focus but it's there. In the third one.

I sorted it by the amount of the focus. With Tsui Yuri obviously on top.

>>2270875
Main heroine in Kamitsure was the protagonist's twin. Not a game I can recommend though.

Dad Ex Machina

>>2270886
Parenting 101

>>2270879
>Also Sono Hanabira New Generation.
i sort of want to play this but I have zero interest in the other two couples. also it's $35

>>2270888
>i sort of want to play this but I have zero interest in the other two couples
Same desu. I want it for the twincest but the other couples are a huge meh to me.

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Okay, so I've reached the end (still at the secks part). I checked the extras tab and I noticed there are three pages that are un-clickable. Is that normal?

>>2270890

Do you actually know anything about it though? I can understand wanting the main-couple and then staying away, but the twincest? Given how bro one of them is with the MC of your first forced couple and how annoying her sister is, I could never bother doing that "route".

>>2270882
It is part of the main arc though. I mean it is the canon ending for them.

>>2270907
I never finished the twincest route because I got really bored halfway through it, also the fact that they grew up separately kinda killed it for me.
Honestly speaking, only the main route was somehow pleasant to read, although it was a bit of a letdown how short and how Manami didn't turn out as sadistic/dom as I wanted her to be.

>>2270927
I don't like how they force you to complete one route before offering the others.

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This count as yuri?

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?

>>2270941
oh and not only that, but it needs to be the good ending

>>2270943
I guess. From the screencaps it seems you can pair boys with boys too?

Also
>large
When saving twitter images replace "large" with "orig" to get the full resolution.

>>2270909
Talking about Flowers? It's in an alternate ending, separate to the canon ending.

>>2270892
Why don't you check the steam forums you stupid attention whore?

>>2270907
I thought the twins were going to be annoying based on the way they came across in the first route but I really warmed to them during their story, and I think their drama was much better handled than Love RIbbon.

I still haven't done the third couple in the game at all though. Maybe someday.

Has anybody else played Pygmalion's demo? It sure seems to have a lot of translation issues. I've noticed lines that are totally mistranslated seemingly just because the translator didn't pay attention to context, and they've even confused lunch and dinner.

Not sure I'd feel comfortable paying $30 for that kind of shit.

>>2270970
How weird, usually Mangagamer's translations are pretty high quality.

>>2270970
Dont bother to play it. Its a much shittier version of Aoishiro.

I wish these incest games made the siblings look like they might actually be related.

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romance detective is good if you like fluffy silly shit

>>2271015
stick with twincest then!

>>2271015
Talking about Love Ribbon? The girls in Sono Hana NG and Flowers are twins and the sisters in Tsui Yuri have inverted eye/hair colors.

>>2271016
Yeah, it was pretty funny IIRC.

>>2271016
It was cute. What about the sequel? There was some drama right? Where development stopped and they released an unfinished version saying how they'll never finish it because reasons and now it's back in development again?

>>2271023
sequel's story is done, art isn't and it will never be picked up again due to personal problems i'm pretty sure regarding an ex gf.
sequel contained even more lesbians though, so i'm satisfied with what i got.

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>>2271025
oh, i think i have some very secret porn from the OG artist? not sure she'd be happy about it being posted, though.

none of the flowers games have h-content?

>>2271029
you can't say that and then not post it

>>2271032
nope, not drawn anyway
there is implied sex/masturbation though

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>>2271033
since you asked so nicely

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>>2271035
this is the most nsfw one in here, the rest are basically fluff

>>2271038
fluff>porn

>>2271035
>>2271038
thanks onee-sama

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>>2271042
here's all of it, featuring a girl lupin (as god intended)

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>>2271016
These games are seriously too cute.

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>>2271044
Adorable~
There's something about the innocent, cute looking character being lewd with each others.

Thanks for sharing anon.

>>2271068
Yeah I really like all the Treat games. I highly recommend them.

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ohp, forgot romance cop getting absolutely crowded by the rose-crazed citizens (that you can pretend are all girls, for yuri purposes)

>>2270870
>>2270873
There's also some story Japanese-only DLC (perhaps for now) that bridges what happens in-between Sophie and Firis. Thankfully Firis will come out on PC in less than a month so there's a very high likelyhood that they'll bring that DLC to the west, even if KT has said that there won't be any more DLC for the PC.

>>2270942
>>2270943
Chitose? has some serious "shoujo eyes" going on there. (Akira? does, too, but not as much)

>>2271195
Well it IS a shoujo/otome game aimed at girls. It just have homo pairings as well.

>>2271196
Ah. I see. I like the eyes, but you don't usually see them much in yuri (or yuri-esque) VNs is all.

New laptop and just started playing FLOWERS

What should I expect? Cute fluffy yuri that makes you feel good or sudden feel of emptiness like when you finish Yurirei?

>>2271200
>What should I expect?
Meta and suffering.

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>>2271195
I fucking love shoujo shit

>>2271221
But do they fuck?

>>2271222
That is an important question.

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>>2271221
i think i like the old art a bit more.

>>2271241
Those eyes are fucking terrifying.

>>2271243
The eyes remind me of amateurish attempts at making girls in AA2

>>2269846
It has the worst micropayments system I've ever seen in a game. New players that can't afford the deluxe pack are locked out of progression and used as cannon fodder.

>>2271249
hahaha that's messed up but I'm not even surprised.

>>2270241
>>2270224
Basically you know you've stuffed up the story if penises become relevant for any reason.

>>2271256
What if it's a story about crazed amazons cutting off penises and collecting them for points?

>>2271261
Please no.

>>2271256
What if the main character is a penis surgeon?

>>2271261
Kinky.

>>2271221
On phone, what game?

>>2271261
Go back to your grave, King Saul.

>>2271261
That's not okay.

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>>2271261
>>2271264
I'm sure there are several outlying exceptions for the rule that I wasn't going to account for with a tweet-length sentence.

Although probably the most important point is that if there's going to be het you have to warn the audience first. The two notorious examples mentioned above probably would not have inspired lynch mobs if they had not declared themselves to be full yuri right up until they weren't.

>>2270287
>>2270285
Since tentacles are somewhere in the fuzzy line between het and yuri they need feminine traits or associations in order to tip the balance.

Pic related and Ika Musume are two examples that were never contentious.

There's also a fun tentacle hentai OVA that starts het and goes full yuri by the end. Pity I've forgotten the name.

>>2271010
>much shittier version of Aoishiro.
What makes you say that? At a glance, their stories seem very dissimilar.

>>2271261
only if you advertise it as 6 nights of consensual sex with amazons

>>2271276
Death by SNU SNU! Except snu snu involves a lot more cutting and a lot less sexing.

>>2271272
Lady tentacles are obviously the best, but still not for everyone. Not sure about the OVA- Only thing I can think of is Alien of Darkness (I think that's the name), I don't believe I've ever watched it but I know it's yuri and tentacles, and I think maybe yuri-tentacles. It's old and my memory is not good but that's what I recall reading about it.

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>>2271279
That's not it. It's a schoolgirl ghost molesting people in the toilets and on the school roof. The latter two thirds are about her female molestation target where they go through some sort of ghost-drama, fall in love with each other and end with another round of consensual (this time) tentacle sex.

Disclaimer though my memory has probably butchered the details. Also offtopic, sorry.

>>2271301
You mean Alignment You! You! The Animation? That has a good amount of het though, even though it does have a yuri ending.

>>2271301
>>2271319
And it's also futa.

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>>2271301
>Also offtopic, sorry.
Yes, you've been naughty.

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>>2271319
That's the one.

>>2271322
Disclaimer was on point then.

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>>2271360

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>>2271363

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67xSzCRJDo

looks like another Catch Canvas

>>2271360
I hope this one gets translated someday

Sure the game may meh but yuri VNs with different girls to choose from are rare as fuck

>>2271407
Did Catch Canvas at least describe the sex with the femc differently?

>>2271444
Nevermind, I found some footage.

>>2271444
Catch Canvas was very different for a female protagonist. As far as those things go, at least

>>2271145
>>2271044
>>2271042
>>2271038
>>2271035
O-Oh goodness.

>>2271221
>>2271241
I was going to disagree with you, then I noticed the breasts. Though honestly they look strange either way.

everyone is this thread is gay

>>2271478

And how!

>>2271478
Lies and slander. There's nothing gay about being pals with gals.

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Speaking of wincest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6sqjOX6Wd8
Standard RPG I guess. The UI looks like a cheap iPhone game though.

When are we getting more NoA trailers? I'm so tired of this.

>>2271575
>I'm so tired of this.
I think it looks nice. I think I prefer boring turn based RPGs over boring action RPGs.

I love NoA, but its gameplay really is quite bland.

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>>2271597
I'm in a completely different basket. Turn based RPGs can go extinct for all I care. I finished like 6 in my lifetime. The fact that NoA was an ARPG with unique summoning mechanics was a huge plus for me.

That said, the main reason I want to see NoA2 more is because it's more /u/ relevant than MUH TOMODACHI.

>>2271575
Proper turn based JRPGs are all too rare these days so I consider that a good thing.

More NoA2 stuff will probably wait until after BR's release.

>>2271603
I don't like turn based JRPGs much at all, but NoA's gameplay is just so boring. Combat is stiff, Arnice's moves lack variety, the summoning stuff is pretty shallow, the demon forms are surprisingly uninteresting, and there are tons of items but no reason to use any of them in particular.

Story is everything to me so I didn't care too much, but that game sucked as a game.

>>2271607
I really disagree. The movesets and combo potential were great. It's just that the main game is easy enough that you can just mash square forever and still succeed and that swapping weapons mid-combo could be annoying because of the control set up. It's still really fluid though and has great go-fast feel with chaining between monsters, swapping weapons and timing servan abilities to keep your combo counter ticking up as you go through a dungeon floor.

That's not to say it couldn't be better. It doesn't match up to the best of the best like DMC3/4, MGR etc and there are definitely things I would change, but it doesn't suck and it's far more engaging than something like God of War.

>>2271607
The mechanics were versatile and refreshing. But like anon before me said the game was easy.

Like newer Metal Gear games, they give you a truckload of interesting tools but you're never forced to be creative with them.

As for Arnice's stiff animations the sequel seems to be improving that.

>>2271611
>>2271614
I guess I probably do only feel that way because it was so easy. Would've been nice if there was a harder difficulty level.

>>2271575
>The UI looks like a cheap iPhone game though.
I don't play cheap iPhone games so I wouldn't know, but it looks pretty stylish if you ask me. The transitions in particular.

>>2271575
>1:00 that leg lift

>>2271575
Looks pretty good, and turn based games are what Gust does better. There was nothing cheap at all in this video.

Anyway, I like NoA, but I agree that the gameplay was pretty weak. I hope they'll do something better with it in the sequel. But I'm having more fun with Sophie gameplay than I had with NoA.

>>2269972
if anyone is thinking of making such a game/VN i would love to lend my hand for the art while you find a proper artist.

Is Atelier Sophie worth getting for subtext yuri?

>>2271668
Yeah

Subahibi has a yuri route, right? Or am I mixing it up with somethin else?

So, how long until blue reflection english release, realistically? A year and a half-ish?

>>2271718
End of the year in the best-case scenario. It will probably be at least six months out from whenever it gets picked up

What are the odds that NoA2 is getting delayed for an engine overhaul so it can run like Fire Emblem Warriors? If they improved the character models, they might decide to change the gameplay. They know the yuri was the selling point in the first game and the gameplay was the weak point.

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>>2271727
They've already made a lot of changes to the gameplay, and the new engine at least looks pretty solid. The last trailer showed some pretty bad framerate drops though that could really hamper the game if allowed to go through. That and Gust's quality control has fallen off lately and spacing out their releases might help get things back under control.

Maybe they're even working towards giving every lily an ending with Alushe.

>>2271749
>Maybe they're even working towards giving every lily an ending with Alushe.
This may be wishful thinking but they did say that improving relationships between the girls is one of the reasons they delayed the game.

>>2271696
You`re right.

>>2271768
>Relationship system
>waifu simulator
>yuri
This game is going to sell so many copies.

>>2271603
Since Blue Reflection hasn't been delayed yet, they should start showcasing NoA2 after BR has launched around March 30.

http://social.gust.co.jp/shiroyuri/info170116.php

>new elements

Did the first game have skill points for the Servans?

>>2271806
Not skill points, but every few levels they'd have an option of 2 different abilities to choose from.

>>2271696
Chapter 1 is yuri. The rest of the game isn't. And it's a mindscrew story.

Negligee is 25% off this week on Steam.

>>2271851
One of the characters have a backstory DLC where she fucks guys.

No thank you.

>>2271854
Optional content for a single character despoils the purity of the entire game. I will sit and wait for Allah to provide.

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New Honey Select expansion adding F/F actions (along with MMF and MFF and tentacles)
Hopefully there will be a decent number of options for girl on girl actions. At least keep the fondle options, toys, and maybe some double dildo or strap-on sex.

That would at least tide me over until AA3, which will hopefully have some better customization options and more control over ero (probably getting my hopes up).

>>2271861
>along with MMF and MFF and tentacles
>no FFF
Fuck you Illusion.

Nah just kidding, better something than nothing. But as you said, AA3 can't come soon enough.

>>2271831
Did you even read the game? There`s also an alternative ending(route) in other chapter that is yuri.

>>2271877
I think it should be pointed out that before you get to that branch, there's a whole lot of stuff that goes way beyond the sort of thing people in this thread complain about from Ladykiller or SVH.

Frankly Subahibi doesn't really belong in this thread any more than stuff like Dare ga Koroshita Komadori o.

>>2271854
I understand no dicks in yuri but this is a little absurd

>>2271926
Not really, it's not absurd, and not that anon, but since most of us here spends our own money on games we earn, we can buy or not buy anything just for our own reasoning.

If anon doesn't want to buy a game cause author released a dlc where one of the girls fucks guys in it it's that anon right, and no one should criticise on that.

There are anons who buy only yuri games and that's nothing wrong, since there are also anons who buy only yaoi or only straight games too and who would drop a game if they learned for example if a girl has a dlc to make out with other girls.

>>2271931
but isnt the girl in the DLC a side character and not even romanceable in the main game?

>>2271926
It's a good enough reason for an individual person to feel like they don't want to buy it when there's better stuff around to buy
If they were throwing a fit and demanding that no one play it or talk about it, then it would be absurd

>>2271931
>there are also anons who buy only yaoi or only straight games too and who would drop a game if they learned for example if a girl has a dlc to make out with other girls.

to be fair though i'd harass those anons