Born in Jordan but Canada is my new home now..but i will never forget you Petra.
Should be absolutely beautiful. But there is WAY too big a risk to accidentally go on a "star in your own beheading video" excursion.
I don't know how other people feel about this, but for me personally the entire middle east and North Africa are an absolute no-go travel-wise at the moment.
Jordan is easing visa restrictions, bolstering security for tourist spots and obviously prices are shooting down. Realistically if you're government is letting you fly to a country the you should be alright. Even when a country is in difficulty, road blocks will stop you from entering the hot areas..
>I don't know how other people feel about this, but for me personally the entire middle east and North Africa are an absolute no-go travel-wise at the moment.
Well, I have felt the same for about 3 years now. I would have carved out some areas of the world as passable, but which I won't step into the countries at all now, whatsoever.
I could do Israel, and that's if I had a full fare ticket home, and I'd stay close to the news the whole time.
Went to Petra back in 2008 when I was in Jordan.
It's neat, not that those staged and photoshopped photos represent reality.
Although Jordanians are nicer than Egyptians (not as poor, less demands for baksheesh), Jordan is overall a little bit boring. 4-5 days and you've seen it all. Jerash, Mount Nebo, Petra, Dead Sea. Amman is a wasteland. Nothing that interesting to do, nothing much to eat but baklava and shawarma.
Jordan is safe though. A few cheating cabbies was the first of it. I had a considerable travel beard at the time (I've got light-brown hair, but my facial hair is distinctly reddish, prob because my dad is a ginger), and everyone kept asking me (in Arabic) if I was Syrian, which I thought was amusing. One cabbie called me "Suleiman", and I guess took me for a convert, and was rambling on in very broken English about "Ummah good! al-Ikwan Muslim [i.e. Muslim Brotherhood, a banned party in Jordan], yes yes!". I took this to be more amusing than frightening though. At the hotel there were also two guys I chatted with at breakfast one morning, who turned out to be Hezbollah sympathisers (and I guess Shia). Slightly terse at first, but once they realized I wasn't a spook or totally ignorant to middle easten history, we had a good bitch fest about Israeli politics.
This, to be honest. If you're Christian, that's cool, but I really don't think devout Muslims belong in the west. Nothing personal. Deep down you know it's true and that you don't belong here either.
The people that say this are always the people that are living there.
Turks were also pissed that people thought their country would have terrorist attacks. Then it had 3 in a single year.
Tunisia also was safe and it had 2 terrorist attacks where many tourists died.
Don't fool yourself, just because it didn't happen yet it doesn't mean it won't. When things happen they happen quick and there's nothing in North Africa and the Middle East that is worth the hassle. or even the slightest worry.
Jordan however has a relatively small and affluent (by local standards) population. The royal family is popular. Politics aren't as 'free' or uncorrupt as say Europe, but for the region are fairly open. In short, there wasn't as much discontent.
Now, all the Iraqi and Syrian refugees, and the Palis... that's another story.
/pol/ stops by from time to time to shit on everything. Mods are pretty good about cleaning up after them
---> if shit gets reported.
Beyond that, not much can be done except the ancient rule of dealing with trolls -- do not feed.
A lot (even if not 'all') of the refugees in Europe (where I live) this summer have rather entitled attitudes, and little appreciation. I think it's mostly naivety/ignorance, and never really thinking about *why* Europe had social welfare in the first place. Sadly, to many of them it's just free money and white bitches. Many will not ever integrate or change to western classic liberal values, but remain the mentally medieval goat herders they are. I'm ok with the proven best and brightest and the secular coming in controlled numbers, but the Europeans responsible for letting in so many are making a huge fucking mistake just to save face. The other problem is that wars in the middle east haven't helped anything, and Syria should've been handled years ago, so fuck Bush and Blair too.
I'm German, myself. I have seen the swarms first-hand. Many are teenagers or early 20s men, and definitely not Syrian (too dark, or too African). the majority will never have anything to contribute to Europe while take take taking. No demographic 'crisis' is worth importing millions of uneducated uncivilized skitskins.
You don't have to be /pol/ or a stormnigger to see it that way. The problem is rather you bleeding-hearts that want to blindly ram down your hippie vision on the rest of us.
I've also been to the Middle East, fwiw.
>Born in Jordan
>but Canada is my new home now
Sounds about right.