/tfg/ - Transformers General

*unfunny joke about a QC issue*

*copypasta'd complaint about current line from ten threads ago*

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>>6488117
>1: Good animation for it's time.
Eh, it has a neat color palette and some shots look decent in motion, but that's about it. As far as art goes, it's just fairly bogstandard animation for a 1980s sci-fi film, and it looks particularly mediocre when you consider it was made just two years before Akira. No one studies the 1986 Transformers film as an example of good animated cinematography in colleges, anon.

>2: Fairly "adult" storyline all things considered. Killed a whole bunch of bots, something that just didn't happen in kids franchises back then.
More like, a fairly bostandard "we're running out of Diaclone molds and need to sell new toys so we'll just kill off almost every single major character" storyline. People who unironically think having a lot of characters dying is what makes an "adult" narrative, not the actual exploration of complicated adult themes like determinism or mortality (like Beast Wars does, for instance), are the reason why modern Star Wars and DC movies are trying so hard to be edgy without actually having anything besides a drama facade.

>3: Balls to the wall soundtrack.
The Stan Bush songs are fucking terrible outside of the nostalgic context of the movie, the metal songs feel like tryhard discount versions of Iron Maiden and, while Vince DiCola has some decent synth tracks, he is hardly a Vangelis or a Moroder. Hardly anything holds up in the sound department.

So no, the 1986 film is nowhere near as good as you remember it to be, anon.

>>6488155
>The Stan Bush songs are fucking terrible
delet this

>>6488157
Try showing The Touch to a /mu/tant who has no nostalgic attachment to Transformers, anon. He might very likely pass out of an overdose of 1980s power pop genericness.

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>>6487959
All I could do to my Artfire was split the hip piece slightly so I could drip silicone lubricant onto the hip ratchets' gears. Artfire's hip piece doesn't come apart any further than this since it seems to be held together entirely by glue.

I'm not really sure how well graphite powder would work for this since you really have to let it spread by itself (it probably would work it would just be a paint to get enough on). I don't really think this would do anything to prevent that breakage (honestly that was probably just a one-off) but this completely solved the over-tight ratchet joints for me. Once I worked in the lubricant the ratchet joints went from being uncomfortably firm to easy to move but still completely secure, like Inferno and Grapple.

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>>6488155
>>6488157

The Touch is bad but Dare is great.

Lion's Transformers theme is GOAT, always makes me cry every time.

Is Ransack best-sack?

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>>6488184
Pic related

>>6488187
The Oldest Coot

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>all this rightful praising for the underrated ROTF / 2010 Scouts but no love for the DOTM Human Alliance ones
Come on guys, these were also really cool :/

>>6488143
Pretenders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess Transformers has me back on the chain gang!

>>6488208
I skipped all but Whirl, but I admit Sandstorm looks pretty damn nice. I think I was just burnt out on movie-line stuff at that point in time.

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>>6488208
I loved that line. Tailpipe was a great figure, weirdly homoerotic bio and all.

>>6488219
new favorite meme

>>6488227
It's so strange they sold him as an Autobot, when his face sculpt is blatantly a Decepticon.

>>6488163
I remember laughing my ass off over Optimus murdering everyone to a cheery song about talent and reassurance. G1 Prime was the original Murder Prime.
The movie is weird for non-transfags and sleeper transfags.

>>6488208
For whatever reason I bought the all shit ones; Whirl, Thunderhead, Backfire; instead of the good ones like Tailpipe and Sandstorm.

>>6488227
>Tailpipe and Pinpointer have been partners for ages, and have learned to love roughing it
pffft haha

>>6488155
Uh wow how dare you say that don't you know that G1 is the only stuff that sells now and nobody is buying animated shit???

>>6488143
>those "prime masters"
why. who thought this. why was this fit into the budget.

>>6488219
>that icecream truck
c-cute...

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sigh...i want my dinobots...
>tfw no dinobots yet...

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It's weird because they share so many parts, but twin twist feels much worse than topspin. His feet have a really weird angle to them that almost forces him to stand with a pelvic thrust just to not tip forward, and his treads hanging all the way back doesn't help either. They're also unpainted on the inside, which looks pretty meh. Topspin is probably my favorite TR mold so far, so I figured twintwist would have been a shoe-in too.

Misfire is the complete opposite though, it's like he's triggerhappy with none of the robot mode clunkyness.

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>>6488143
So will Deathsaurus/Huffer/Flywheels/Snapdragon/Black Zarak/Carnivac/Landcross happen now that most of this list is confirmed or released?

>>6488251
Don't worry anon, the wait won't feel so bad when if you keep in mind that Warden will find some way to fit ruining them into the budget.

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>>6488236
Full bio
>Tailpipe and Pinpointer have been partners for years, accustomed to roughing it. Tailpipe typically uses Pinpointer by squeezing his handle tightly and firing bursts with precision. Having found a third member for their group in the form of the human Sergeant Noble, a seasoned man of experience, they make a formidable threesome within the untamed wilderness.

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>>6488262
Nigga

>>6488260
No, that list was never real, you nigger.

>>6488262
This cannot be accidental. God bless the writer's soul.

>>6488261
>deluxe class
Well that didn't take long. and that's not even saying anything about the combiner aspect.

>>6488273
Not entirely directed at you, but the whole voyager class circle jerk has been going on far too long. Sure complain about scale issues - but if scale issues are some big issue than why collect Transformers? Go 3rd Party or find a different hobby.

>>6488284
It's not scale, it goes against the rule of cool.

Midget dinosaurs? Fucking lame.

>>6488143
any femaleformer in that pic?

>>6488284
>>6488273
Sheesh, the only one who feels too small is Sludge, the rest of the sizes are fine.

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>>6488236
>Thunderhead
>shit
lolwut? He's an absolutely fantastic toy with the most versatile transformation I've ever seen, you can make anything from a tank to a walker spider to a two-legged mecha to a AA gun with it without any of those looking half-assed like most multimode figures do.

>>6488290
Yes. Elita-1 and two Deluxes. They're probably more than half of a combiner team.

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>>6488290
Novastar, Moonracer and Elita.

>>6488291
>the rest of the sizes are fine.
Sure, if you have plebebic standards.

What are the chances of Wei Jiang making an oversized Broadside?

>>6488143
>finally stop collecting Transformers a few months ago
>see this

JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT THEY PULL ME BACK IN

>>6488296
we have better images of those metal ladies?

>>6488297
Outside of G1, the Dinobots aren't always massive.

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>>6488299
The ride never ends

>>6488165
How do you take his torso off of his hips like that?

>>6488301
Yeah, go to tfwiki and type thise names or google them.

>>6488298
Pretty low, they tend to oversize the unecessary characters, who asked for a todler size Ginrai again?

>>6488290
>>6488296
And Solus Prime, kind of.

>>6488310
I was talking about their upcoming toys

>>6488313
None yet, OP's pic is our only view of most of those.

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>decide to rewatch some Beast Wars after not having seen a single episode in years
>expecting to rediscover some pure animated kino and fall in love with the show again
>go for Code of Hero since it used to be my favorite episode
>that rushed pacing
>that bland animation
>that horribly cheesy writing
>all those cringe-worthy quips
>that dreadful feeling of realizing the show didn't actually age as well as I expected it to

a-anyone else ever felt this way about Beast Wars, /tfg/?

>>6488305
>Ravage actually among the undergrowth
>un-der-growth

>>6488318
I need to mow my lawn

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So how do you think Hasbro will be doing Combiners this time? From the looks of Starscream and Grimlock, they seem to have CW Computron looking feet on their arms. Does that mean deluxes will only include hands? Will they have certain parts you can only get for each figure? Looking at the feet of Jazz, it's clear the deluxes are going to be combiner limbs, but will they not make it linewide this time?

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>>6488143
Simply bend his torso and unscrew what you see. You should keep both halves of his hips squeezed together in your hand while you do it though since his ratchet springs are strong enough to put pressure on that little black part and make unscrewing it difficult.

Also that third screw does literally nothing. I have no clue why it's there.

>>6488317
I rewatched the whole series a year or so ago, having a few drinks helps by miles.

>>6488322
You can already tell he just has a jet backpack fold-the-robot-away-and-flip-it-over transformation. Thinks aren't looking up for Warden's line.

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>>6488317
Haven't seen it in a few years, I got the opposite feeling watching Masterforce, I remember hating the show as a child because the main characters weren't robots, but watching it as an adult I loved the hero path Ginrai had.

>got into an alien war by accident, tried to escape but came back after the cons killed some of his trucker friends and unwilliling became the autbot commander.

>>6488317
I think if you're starting with an episode that's mostly remembered as payoff for a slow-burn plotline then you're probably gonna have a bad time. Although, yes, you do need to temper your expectations for a show which would by necessity kill off characters so there were fewer models to render per episode.

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>>6488329

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>>6488329
At least it folds up in a lot of places?

>>6488337
>>6488338
Jesus. That's some universe Silverbolt shit.

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>>6488322
>they're actually making Combiners right this time around, with good-looking individual figures and proper arms and feet
>mfw HasTak already used up all the famous gestalt teams in terrible CW renditions and are just going for C-listers like the Terrorcons and that dinobot combiner from a single shitty comic no one liked

>>6488329
Yeah, it looks even shittier in the actual SDCC pics. They really have no idea on how to design a proper Starscream.

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>>6488329
>has to be a combiner body, it's own robot, and a vehicle
>also it's a jet

Don't be a fuckin' retard, almost every jetformer is "flip it over, now it's a jet" anyway. Why would you expect more of something that ALSO needs to be a combiner torso to boot?

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>>6488338
>Another Starscream with backwards wings exposing the hollow side and no con symbols on the front

Literally just spin them around

>>6488344
I've been waiting years for a modern combining Abominus, I need this.

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>>6488347
>mods will fix it!

>>6488344

CW was fine outside of Menasor you tool.

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>>6488353
>CW was fine outside of Menasor

>>6488353
>UW was fine

Fixed.

>>6488353
Sure, go ahead and enjoy your Playskool blocky figures with hollow legs and tacky painted windows. And don't forget to buy the 27th repaint of the aerialbots mold!

>>6488363
UW was better but there's only so much a few extra paint apps and remolds can do for such shitty figures, anon.

>>6488337
>Head exposed
>Fake ass cockpit chest
>What >>6488341 just said

I feel like i've been tortured

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>>6488341
>universe Silverbolt

POTP Starscream is making Silverbolt look like a work of art. Silverbot at least made an attempt to streamline his body into an undercarriage and actually hide some things. This Starscream's body does literally nothing, it looks like one of those movie toys that are just dinky cars with a picture of the robot on its underside.

>>6488153
*unwitty sarcastic retort "You guys are such fags".jpg*

>>6488262
Did they let James Roberts write this?

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>>6488365
>shitty figures

But they're not shitty.

>>6488157
I hate how Stan Bush's cheesy crap gets attention over badass stuff like Instruments of Destruction or Hunger.

>>6488260

I can believe Deathsaurus, Snapdragon, Flywheels and Black Zarak will happen at some point.

>>6488385
>Instruments of Destruction or Hunger
Both better songs, for sure.

>>6488385
>discount Black Sabbath
>discount Iron Maiden

>>6488303
Well that'd be all well and good if these weren't meant to be representations of their g1 selves.

>>6488391
better than discount whatever the fuck stan bush's genre is.

MPM Bee is 80 bucks
MPM Optimus is 100

Damn, looking at those small boxes does not help.

>>6488412
It's power pop, and Stan Bush isn't discount power pop as much as he's just the most generic power pop ever made.

>>6488382
>combiner peg chests with an entire plane on their back
Yeah, that's shit, anon.

>>6488415
MPM bee is pretty good. 80$ is steep but it's a fairly complex figure with intricate details.

Don't buy and MPM Optimus though it's shit.

>>6488436
What I don't get is the price difference. If bee is 80, I'd expect Prime to be way more expensive.

>>6488435
It's tradition

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>>6488155


>comparing TF The Movie to Akira

Well thats not fair. TF The Movie is about as well animated as the Macross DYRL and that movie is constantly praised for its visuals, and Id say that speaks more to the quality of Akira rather than the lack thereof in most 80s japanese animation films. There's lots of gorgeous shots in TF the movie I can ploint you too.

>>6488477
I wouldn't say TFTM was as consistently gorgeous as DYRL but it did have some great animation. In any event I loved it, wrinkles and all. It's not a masterpiece but it is a lot of fun.

>>6488267
>still doubting when arcee, cosmos, predaking, abominus, dinobots, battletrap, godbomber, blood and darkwing/dreadwing, windcharger, beachcomber either happened or were confirmed.

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>people still hate on CW

sad.

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http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars:_Uprising

>Burning Bridges
>Micro-Aggressions
>Intersectionality
>Trigger Warnings
>Identity Politics
>Not All Megatrons
>Cultural Appropriation
>Safe Spaces

Why are all the chapters in BW Uprising named after social justice terms? Do the stories include some form of sociological drama that draws parallels with modern inequities or else?

>>6488496
Because Jim Sorenson is an Allspark user.

>>6488496
Because the hacks that wrote them are SJW filth from Allspark.

>>6488505
I don't really care about that desu, I just want to know if that reflects on the themes of the novels or not. I unironically wouldn't mind a Transformers story centered around the sociology of Cybertron.

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>>6488492
>CW apologists still pretend the line is anything but utter shite without extensive 3rd party upgrades

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>>6488492
3rd parties already shat on that more than half a decade ago, anon.

>>6488492
I like Combiner Wars way too much, but you aren't helping your cause with that pick. There's at least two add-on kits on that figure from two different companies.

>>6488231
But he didn't murder anyone in that movie.

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>>6488496
>>6488506
It's a very broad "old people are out of touch and continuing their agenda by manipulating the youth" plot. Both the Builders and the Resistance are full of awful people so it really doesn't feel like a SJW piece.

>>6488513
>FP Bruticus
>good

It requires way too much fucking partsforming, the individual bots are too small, and Onslaught and Brawl looking nothing like their G1 characters because they're just repaints of those shitty energon toys.

>>6488514
Buying add on kits isn't a problem if you save money not buying all the shitty RID and Bayformer toys.

KO perfect effect parts alone make it good and those only cost $20.

>>6488533
But I shouldn't have to buy add-ons just to turn a turd into a mediocrity.

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>>6488532
>Energon Barricade
>shitty
Hmpf, how rude.

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>>6488507

I tried reading it a while ago, and it was pretty much >>6488517 for the most part. There were some major groaners but I don't remember it clearly enough to comment. I do remember I couldn't get past the first story because of them.

Of course, there's this, which probably isn't a good sign. The stories are free online, so there's reason you can't find out for yourself.

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>>6488551
>"Beast Wars meets the Hunger Games"
Fucking dropped. I honestly don't even think the whole social unrest thing is a bad premise for a TF narrative but holy fuck, the last thing I want to read is a story based on those shitty teen novels.

>>6488537
I wound up getting him on a whim when Family Dollars were clearanceing out energon stuff for dirt cheap and I wanted Decepticon grunts. Never got any of the limbs, but even as his own background dude he's pretty solid. Hard to hate a mobile missile launcher.

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>>6488375
>actually hide things

Let's not start putting on nostalgia goggles for fucking Silverbolt, anon.

>>6488551
>filename
You know the drill buddy, back to the containment board.

>>6488513
3 out of 5 of those are still mediocre Energon figures, though.

>>6488571
Considering there are fans of Shia Lebouf in these threads, nostalgia goggles know no limits.

>>6488486

DYRL was pretty inconsistent too though, there were a number of scenes where the art/framerate went back to tv quality.

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>>6488570
Same here, I found the Universe re-release in a discount dollar shop about a decade ago and he hasn't left the company of my CHUGs ever since, even without owning any of the limbs either.

If something, I've always felt like his forearms are a little too short and stubby, but what can you do. The figure itself is still incredibly solid and definitely holds up to modern standards in just about every other regard.

>>6488571
I'm not saying it's the gold standard to jetformer undercarriages or anything, but Silverbolt is definitely doing a cleaner job at it than Starscream

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>>6488586
>I can't see shit from in here

>>6488562
I read the cliff notes, it's I can't imagine reading the whole thing. I was suffering.

>>6488571
>fists, head, and feet are hidden

>>6488337
>fists are hidden
>feet and head are visible
>fake cockpit

>>6488599
Lets be fair, Starscream also has to works as a CW torso, so a better comparison is CW Silverbolt. Man I really wish Starscream's arms, and feet were better designed, I don't like this term but it really does look like something for playschool.

>>6488551
So that is why it sucked

>>6488337
>>6488337
The more I look at it the more I think it might not be completely transformed. I'm thinking the chest is a panel that can flip up or something to hide the head and cockpit

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Thanks for reccomending me Sky Shadow /toy/, he's great. Amazed at the feet too, you can have him in a ton of poses without falling over. The engineering is just grade-A overall.

That said the stickers are a little annoying and the fortress mode is... I don't even know what they were going for. Also the red panels on the knees are splitting a bit, but I'm not sure if that's just mine
Regardless, fucking dope toy. I might just get Overlord too because of how much I love the mold

Also got Kup. He has a nice Gerwalk mode I guess, but kinda meh otherwise

>>6488513
Anyone got this guy next to CW Bruticus?

>>6488317
honestly in retrospect despite it being revolutionary in many respects I feel Beast Wars would have been better if it had been traditionally animated

>>6488322
nah the deluxes have a modified version of the CW Hand-Feet-Guns, altered so they can be worn as "armor" in Robot Mode to interact with the Prime Masters gimmick

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Is there anywhere I can find a good stand for this lil fella? Mine didn't come with one

>>6488536
>mediocrity

Yet it's better than any of the 3P combiner toys.

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>>6488536
You're right, I shouldn't.

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>>6488622
>CW combiners
>better than any of the 3P combiner toys.
Holy shit, I understand you really like CW, but you don't have to blatantly lie to yourself.

>>6488344
>that dinobot combiner from a single shitty comic
I actually like the idea that the Dinobots were always able to combine, but didn't because the combiner was out of control.

>>6488621
Well, you could buy a Tamashii act 4 stand. A pack has 3 stands

>>6488605
>"a better comparison is CW Silverbolt"
>head and feet are hidden
>fists are visible

>>6488337
>fists are hidden
>feet and head are visible
>fake cockpit

Still shit cap'n

>>6488599
>fists head and feet are hidden
>arms, torso, and legs are still there

GEE
I WONDER WHERE THERE ARE HIDING

>>6488317
Is victory any good? How about RID 2001 and Armada?

>>6488712
Victory is probably the best one in the G1 continuity, RiD 2001 and Armada are both bland animes at best and horrible cringefests at worst.

>>6488712
I feel like you could skip from BW to Animated and miss nothing good.

>>6488729
This, the only truly watchable trio is BW, Animated and Prime. Everything else in terms of Transformers shows ranges from "somewhat cringey nonsense", like G1 and Cybertron, to "absolute bottom of the barrel", like Energon and both RiDs.

>>6488317
I watched Beast Wars for the first time in full relatively recently, like 2-3 years ago maybe. I saw some episodes as a kid but not much. I thought it held up well enough, the visuals are obviously dated as all fuck but not unwatchable if you can at least appreciate it for what it was at the time, and the action and writing ranged from serviceable to fairly decent and it wasn't hard staying interested.

I will say though that the show goes full on toy commercial starting the second season. It got a little groan inducing at times when you could tell how hard the ad execs were nudging the writers and animators to get them to shoehorn in transmetals and fuzors and tell the audience how great they are, compared to season 1 which felt fairly natural introducing characters. If I rewatch it again I'd marathon the entire first season, but I wouldn't feel ashamed skipping over a few Season 2 and 3 episodes.

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I've got to admire how toy-accurate Challenge of the Gobots was compared to G1

>>6488732
those shows have really shitty visuals though, at least both RiDs have cool robots

like the Animated designs literally look like how I drew when I was 13. even in the concept art the poses are really awkward and lanky

>>6488347
Wait a second...

He has motherfucking stickers. Even the fucking faction symbol is a sticker.

Stickers on voyager/leader still won't fucking go away after TR? Ruining great designs like MPM04 with shitty material/engineering wasn't enough?

>>6488537
If his backpack could compress a bit more and he had a few panels to hide the head in alt mode he might honestly be better than any of the CW torsos. Still not bad for a deluxe combiner that's over a decade old

>>6488743
At this point I'm wondering if Warden is getting a cut of toyhax/reprolabel's sales.

>>6488746
He's got a far better deco and aesthetic than any of the CW combiners, gotta give him that. Even his exposed head isn't as bad as how CW Onslaught just leaves a giant awkward gap under the AA gun.

>>6488753
While the UT may have had an iffy track record for it's toys until cybertron but aesthetically they were great and they always used the sexiest shades of plastic. Even the colors for TR with its embrace of late G1 don't pop nearly as much.

>>6488477
>TF The Movie is about as well animated as the Macross DYRL

Look, I love the TF movie, but you are way out of line with this borderline fucking retarded statement
Get your eyes checked

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>>6488782
Definitely so, and it does help that they went as far as to paint every little fine detail. Truly, they don't make 'em like they used to anymore.

>>6488477
>that 80's shading

unnnf

>>6488574
Fair

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>>6488743
Wait for the superior Takara versions and never worry about stickers again.

>>6488808
not gonna lie, I'm super hyped for this guy

I hope there's a stand that can support his plane mode though

>>6488808
He comes with Shuffler? Fuck, I skipped him. This is a little more tempting now.

>>6488821
Just the vehicle in sexy black, he sadly doesn't include the actual Shuffler TM (would have been great in those colors).

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Someone red-pill me on MPs and Soundwave

Just watched Jobby's review for him and he looks p amazing, it's just that I'm new to the MP scene so I don't know what the secrets are

So MP Soundwave seems to be around $150-160 US (Primal is around $100-110?!), however

there seem to be different runs of Soundwave. There's a run with yellow eyes and 5 cassettes, and a run with red eyes and just Laserbeak - both priced at $160. I'm a fan of what seems to be a darker/metallic blue for the red-eyed run, but I'm not a fan of spending dozens of dollars for his cassettes either.

Thoughts? Do I just get Artfire instead?

>>6488808
>paying double for the same shitty toy with no stickers

Anyone have a list of transformers that turn into functional objects or electronics? There's a soundwave that's a working MP3 player and an Optimus that turns into a pen. What else is there?

>>6488863
The one with yellow eyes and five cassettes is the Hasbro release for Asia. The red-eyed release is Takara Tomy for Japan. I have the former and find him very nice. He also comes with a little diecast block that's shaped like his alt mode. I would say either release would suit you well, but there is the case of having to spend more to get the other two packs of cassettes.

And before Artfire-anon gets involved in this, he would be a perfectly fine purchase as well. Between the two I think Artfire does end up with the more interesting transformation & color scheme.

>>6488871
Trypticon/Grimlock mouse
Blaster USB hub
Ravage/Cheetor flash drives
Frenzy/Rumble ear phones
All the Kronoform watches

>>6488880
Nice. If there's anything else, let me know.

>>6488863
Inferno and Grapple are better than Artfire.

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>>6488382

I low key want the hell out of that 3P Alpha Trion figure but it's such a terrible price compared to most of the competition.

>>6488863
If you had a reviewer convince you to buy him, are you really acting under your own motivations and vocations? Let yourself a month before buying, if you still feel strongly about the figure then dive right in, but if you've switch moods to another toy, avoid at all cost

>>6488902
NEW ROBOT
MECHA METHUSELAH
ONLY 199.99$

>>6488917
Why are you still forcing this meme?

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>>6488169
Kino music video coming through

>>6488923
I'm also glad I didn't buy gatorbro now, this image would have killed me inside if I owned him

>>6488812

Look for Tamashii stands, Act...4 or 5 was it? I forget, but one of those has a heavy, ratcheted arm. Works well enough for heavier toys like TF's. A box should come with 3 stands, and I'd probably use two of the 3 for a Voyager figure just to ensure you don't put too much stress on one of these things.

>>6488925
>letting CWC influence your collecting habits
You realize your collection and his probably have a lot of overlap, right? He blows his neetbux on Transformers just like half the people in /tfg/ do.

>>6488938
oi thanks mate.

>>6488939
I wouldn't have bought him anyway, I already have way more deceptions than autobots and his robot mode looks kinda bad.

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>>6488812
If you've got one of the official MP stands, most of the retail figures in TR have holes that allow them to be connected, and if the stand can hold Artfire, I'm sure it can handle a retail Voyager.

>>6488923

Forgot link... Oh the suspense
https://youtu.be/93WmaXqvRVQ

>>6488946
I actually am getting road rage, so I'll see if her stand works for him

>>6488812
>>6488938
A Type 1 Gundam action base would probably work a little better. It's designed for voyager-sized figures with the same amount of weight.

>>6488954
I don't think Road Rage comes with a stand. At least, my friend's didn't.

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>>6488964
Shit, yeah, you're right. Only Tracks and Loudpedal came with stands, for some reason. Loudpedal's stand would actually be really sweet for Blitzwing. Pic related.

>>6488960
You mean the Gunpla ones that you build, right?

>>6488995
Yeah. They aren't hard to build, though.

>>6489004
Nice, just making sure. Used to build a lot of Gundams in my Highschool years so I should be good

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>>6488863
Get the KO that comes with the SIX cassettes.
When it comes to Masterpiece, always buy the KO. Only cuc ks still buy the official release.

>>6489033
>Only cuc ks still buy the official release.
Epic for the win! Us smart people, am I right? xD

>>6488902
Meh. The G1 design just never looked like it was intended to transform.

>>6489037
One company gives you the option to buy one toy they produced and engineered, two packs to accompany the character it represents, and the option to buy the black repaint that comes with the final piece of the character's arsenal.
The other sacked the first company, stole the molds, and is now offering you all the toys related to the character included in a single pack for half the price of the original release.

Are you a smart customer or a loyal customer, Bobby?

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Since Artfire has a waist/hip problem, does Inferno had the same issue?

>>6489044
You missed the point tb honest.

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>>6489033
should i get this KO MP bee for $20?

>>6488876
So does "Takara win again"?
The photos for Hasbro's stuff looks cheaper, but again five cassettes

>>6488885
>

>>6488911
I mean, in the past I was like "oh boy these pictures of MP Soundwave and Grim-gram look pretty cool" but only after the review mentioning the price did I realize that I can just eat and drink less to save up for these plastic gods

He (both SW and Grim) seem like expressive and posable figures that I would be proud to display on my desk, let alone actively enjoy

I of course mention Grimlock because the only other inter-interaction Soundwave could have is with a back-in-box Miku Figma

>>6489033
>>6489044
Are these double doubles actually true
How's the plastic quality, price point, availability, and danger of getting an empty box?
I've heard good things about the oversized/undersized Grimlock KO but I'm just afraid it's made out of medical plastic or that I'd have to order from suspicious people and get nothing

>capcha asks for canoes but shows a kayak

>>6489045
The only people who bought Inferno are geewunner cartoon-cucks who put their toys on a shelf in bot mode and never touch them, so we'll probably never know.

>>6489047
You mean the c uck thing?
If you say it in the context of you not looking after your own interests first and then considering that of others, especially companies that don't really care about you, then it's appropriate.
If you mean the KO, they are good quality for the most part so, yeah.

>>6489059
IIRC it fixed the issue with the paint's colors not matching. Don't just take my word, though, look up a review just to check on the quality.

>>6489060
I'll say personally I'm fine owning Hasbro's Soundwave. I haven't got all his cassettes displayed properly, but he's a solid dude.

>>6488338
>"Ghost Attack" written on the wing
Intriguing...

>>6489068
>You mean the c uck thing?
I mean the attitude thing.

>>6488788

youre a retard if you think it isnt you fucking nigger

>>6489059
The official version should only be $15-20, it's about the same quality of a regular deluxe, yet they charge you around $50 because it says Masterpiece on the box. I'd say buy him, it's a good figure, and $20 is fair.

>>6488788

Both are outdated as shit but have enough style and well animated parts to keep them nice looking. Macross DYRL is far from the best looking animation in the 80s.

>>6489097
Sure, but you have to be visually impaired to think it looks anything as good as the Transformers film. Hell, if something, the few shots that looks tight are almost directly ripped off from Macross, the whole Autobot City transformation sequence just reeks of exasperate attempts at being Wapanese.

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Got Silverback at Target. They also had bear, lion, and cheetah, so don't pay $6 S&H on $5 toy.

>>6489104

>a good portion of the animators worked on the macross movie/tv show

Macross movie never looked great consistently, plenty of shots where the framerate turns into a flipbook or the characters look like ink bloches.

>>6489064
Imagine being more triggered over things than even the Allspark.

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>>6488622
>Better than any of the 3rd party combiner toys

Excuse me what?

>>6489130
I'm not falling for the TFC meme again. POTP Piranacon will be better.

>>6489130
I don't want a giant $600 fucking toy ffs

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>>6489130
>Akward standing posture.
>Overdesigned greebles.
>Big face on a tiny helmet and cartoony eyes.
>Manlet torso with baby cannons.

Yes, most 3P combiners are better than the CW stuff, they shoud, they are more expensive for a reason, but that thing is a poor example.

>>6489141
That's pretty much the only good 3P combiner so far.
I guess we either get accustomed to Hasbro or embrace the hackery of 3Ps.

>>6489141
You act like Hasbro's figure will come anywhere close to what you posted, let alone the third party figure.

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>>6489141

herd u talkin shit about muh nigga lobman.

>>6489149
Hasbo-Takara have to work with smaller budget so compromises are expected, but there are 3P that have done it like fanstoys Omega, that is a good representation of the character unlike >>6489130.
.

>>6487970

Can confirm, the PE kit for Computron's head/torso is very similar to Superion's

The head is solid (instead of bendy antennae), but is articulated in two places to condense when going inside Silverbolt/Scattershot's torso
It's basically a palette swap, but it's looks great on both so it's all good

The chest is very different though, where Sup's just adds width to the existing chest panels, Compy's has his whole classic chest armor/shield, it's sweet

Also, Compy's comes with a single brown version of Bruticus' two large "extended" guns for his back silhouette, for just his weapon - in case you thought the muddy-brown "Silverbolt's long gun" wasn't Compy enough

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>>6489158
His post suggest that he doesn't know the head has both options (mouthplate on and off) build inside, just have to rotate them on a swivel, the kit looks great, it was designed for the american version but you can make it work with the UW set, just don't see him from the side, the different molding leaves a tiny window at his abs height.

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>>6489168
The different molding leaves a tiny window from side to side at his crotch height*

Managed to find 3/4 of the last wave of TR deluxes between today and last night. Found the Slugslinger revision wave in a Myer and then Misfire and Windblade in a K-mart this morning.
Now that I have both Decepticons from the wave I can see why they split them into different cases like they did, the two transform identically, just like Triggerhappy but without turning the waist around and the jet noses move to the opposite side. They're both fine but I like Triggerhappy more, the few extra transformations steps make him more interesting. The faces of their titan masters are painted though so they've got that going for them at least.
Windblade's alright, kinda bland, can't really get worked up either way about her. I put her head on Broadside to make a boat girl and there it will stay until I get bored of it.

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>>6489188
>Windblade's alright, kinda bland.
So you like bad gurls?

>>6489216
Yes, yes I do. Anything but more spiders.

>>6489059
Also that KO version is voyager scale, so he'll look good with other MP figures, but be tall next to a deluxe.

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Got this guy a few days ago, pretty nice for a KO, loving the rust detail they gave his Truck mode.

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just got these goys yesterday. was these guys shelfwarming or something? they're pretty cheap

>>6489228
yeah TFP:BH was shelfwarming as a whole.

>>6489228
What the fuck. Someone still has them in stock?

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>>6489228
i like wheeljack the most, the overall design, the proportions, pretty complex transformation for a deluxe, all hits my right spots.

>>6489228
Christ man, didn't know they've been shelfwarming still

>>6488155
>and it looks particularly mediocre when you consider it was made just two years before Akira
>comparing a movie with a budget of $6million to a movie with a budget of $1.1BILLION
That's a little unfair and you know it. Nobody said it was the greatest but for what it was, it was still pretty well animated.

>The Stan Bush songs are fucking terrible outside of the nostalgic context of the movie, the metal songs feel like tryhard discount versions of Iron Maiden and, while Vince DiCola has some decent synth tracks, he is hardly a Vangelis or a Moroder.
Honestly, so what if it's "bad"? Is it a lot of fun to listen to? Fuck yeah it is. It's cheesy as fuck but it never fails to put a smile on my face and tempts me to sing along. It's bad in the good way.

I'm not really going to defend the "adult" storyline argument because that's a pretty fucking dumb thing to try to argue. You're 100% right that it was just to sell new toys. Hell, that's what literally the entire series was. The only thing I'll give it credit for really is that killing the characters off was a refreshing surprise when the show was more content to just leave them alive but never have any further plot about them. It's not even that it's more "mature" or "adult". It's just a nice change of pace when they had the balls to kill them instead of just having Prime retire and the old crew fade away into the background, especially when the series is supposed to be about an ongoing war. What's even the point when they're just going to pussyfoot around it and sidestep casualties?

>So no, the 1986 film is nowhere near as good as you remember it to be, anon.
Considering I watch that movie at least once a year and still enjoy it just as much every time, I would say yes, it is. It's no masterpiece but it's still a consistently good time. Lighten up man. You don't have to take yourself so seriously.

Plus, it's still far better than any of the Bay films.

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>>6489236
heres the shit points, the fucking smudge paint on his legs/hood and projectile ammo. how do i remove this shit. just checked the takara and they're clean

>>6489228
Smokescreen's pretty great, just toss that blue thing though. Wheeljack's a solid mold too and that paintjob looks better than the one I got.. How deeply discounted were these ultra-old shelfwarmers?
>>6489240
It's marbled, it's just like that. All the BH figures were I think, my Ripclaw is.

>>6489240
I believe those were stained into the plastic.
Try rubbing them with isopropyl alcohol.

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>>6489240
they are embedded in the plastic.

>>6488155
>it's just fairly bogstandard
>More like, a fairly bogstandard
You just learned that term in film school and were just itching to show it off, weren't you? Not to mention, it's pretty poor writing form to use the same phrase two sentences apart and shows a limited vocabulary. I hope you're not planning to become a writer. You won't make it very far.

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>>6488808
Is this a pic of the final product or just one of those painted prototypes? It would be a damn shame if the beige is actually paint.

Speaking of Blitzwing, could someone redpill me on him and Octone? The paint apps are looking way too thick at times and I can't see them in hand.

>>6489216
Damn, now I really want a Slipstream retool.

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>>6489245
>>6489242
>It's marbled, it's just like that. All the BH figures were I think, my Ripclaw is.
ah shit that's unfortunate. but i might still get that dragon lady tomorrow

>>6489240
overall i like him enough to draw him

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>>6489253
If you like the BH aesthetics, 2014~2015 were great years because both hasbro and takara versions of the molds were clearing for dirt cheap.

>>6489155
>there are 3P that have done it like fanstoys Omega, that is a good representation of the character unlike >>6489130.
Considering Omega is meant to go with other MPs, it fucking SHOULD be a more accurate representation of the character from the particular series it's based off of.

The thing about TFC's Poseidon is that it's not aiming for MP scale or accuracy. It's going for the neo-classics re-imagined look that goes best on a CHUG shelf and it does a very good job of it. The characters may not look G1 accurate but you can still tell who each member is supposed to be just from looking at them despite the heavy redesign. It's also not like the Seacons have any real presence in current IDW so it's not like there is anything to go off of so TFC took their own artistic liberties with the characters and I think they did a fine job of it. They look like they could fit right in with the current IDW aesthetics. The same could be said of GT's Devestator. Does it look like any existing design of the Constructicons? No. Can you still easily tell which character is which at a glance based on kibble and core design features those characters have in nearly every series, like Mixmaster's hood or Bonecrusher's and Scavenger's tread legs? If you say you can't, you are absolutely lying. If you just don't like how it looks, that's one thing and is a matter of personal taste. But to make the claim that "it doesn't look like/represent the character" is objectively wrong.

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>>6489266
mixed feeling for this bulkhead, i kinda like the ratchet and clank aesthetic but its either him or ripclaw

>>6489306
I feel like his feet are assembled incorrectly.

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>>6489306
I always thought he had a blue visor, but those knobs above it look like eyes.

>>6489188
I hope Slugslinger shows up in Singapore, a 5/8 case of repacks sound like something Hasbro would skip.

>>6489319
Those are horns, if you view from the side . That Bulkhead has a case of inward-bend-only gorilla arms.

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>>6489319
>blue visor
is that what it is? i thought it was big cute smiley face

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Those crazy chinks added the red cross logo.

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Woah

>>6489350
>someone had the money to buy an extra computron to repaint and went the distance to make the torso two combining deluxes
>then put the effort to make those awful hands and feet
Christ.

>>6488732
>G1 on the same tier as Cybertron

>>6488317
I actually hated beast wars as a kid FOR those reasons, but because i never watched the episodes when primal goes transmetal (I thought beast wars ended when he got shot into the moon in the pod) I really liked it.

Mainly because the g1 purist in me loved all the references that got thrown in later on

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>>6489350
Do you have the source because HOT D A M N

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>>6489236
The mold is great, but I prefer it as Wheeljack-o-Lantern. And that's not just because I got him for £3.

>>6489306
Get Ripclaw, there are better Bulkheads out there

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>>6489366
Planet iacon facebook

>>6489360
They turn into parts for Death Cobra it seems

>>6489306
He was almost cool but THE FUCKING ARMS

As someone who loves TR Megatron and already owns Generations Blitzwing, is it worth replacing it with TR Blitzwing?

>>6489252
Blitzwing's paint is so thick it inhibits is transformation. you can still transform him, but you have to force the legs to fit in either vehicle mode. The purple face paint is also so thick it washes out his face details.

Octo/ane doesn't have paint problems, but his cab in truck mode refuses to hold together without strengthening the tab that holds the two pieces together via superglue or Future.

Titans Return's QC is legendarily bad.

>>6489379
if it's a comparison between just the generations and TR Blitzwings, the latter isn't really an improvement. It's overpainted, has dinky weapons, an undersized tank cannon and has been reportedly worse QC than his Megatron pretool.

my own has an uneven chest piece that refuses to stay in place in robot mode as a result.

>>6489064
Fuck off, Walky!

I read something happened between Thew and Benscollectibles recently, what happened?

>>6489399
Got drunk one night and magic happened.

>>6489399
Turned out they were the same person

>>6489045
Nope, Inferno and Grapple both have reasonable-strength hip ratchets.

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>>6489386
>Blitzwing's paint is so thick it inhibits is transformation
Christ, that's worse than I thought.

>Octo/ane doesn't have paint problems
Idk man, that white looks custom-tier.

>>6489252
I would believe the beige would be plastic seeing how there is so much of it, plus it'll look out of place with the cannon which is under the jetmode.

And for octone and hasbro blitzwing they usually are over painted on hasbro versions, you can't make out the mouth details on hasbro blitzwing's face because of how much they use.

If you ever see one in the store you'll understand better but key note, if you hate stickers avoid hasbro's voyagers/leaders entirely

>>6489415
It has parts that are entirely coated like most TR retool/repaints
>Plane nose halves
>sides of truck cab at the hinge
>Flip-out hands.

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>>6489249
>being this butthurt by someone knocking down on your nostalgic attachmemt

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>>6488262
>>6488265
>>6488265
>>6488269
It's just the wiki entry, the actual box description is nowhere close to that.

>>6489432
Holy fuck, what figure is that?

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>>6489436
This thing

>>6489249
I think you need some cream, or a salve

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Something about the tail makes me wish a big minigun could flip out from underneath it. There really isn't all that much to do with the tail in bot mode really

>>6489451
Yeah, the tail is like the shittiest partsformed weapon ever, it can't even be used as a cudgel in the same way as the original g1 figure.

I've never bought any Hasbro Transformers figures but I want to. How are the movie,RID and generations lines? How is the quallity?

Oh,how much do the new figures last? 10 years? 20 years? Or just 5 years...

>>6489460
>movie
>shit quality
>RID
>shit quality
>generations
>super shit quality
Any more questions?

>>6489464
More like 2 months.

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>>6488227
Patrician taste

>>6489464
>10 years
I think that's probably about right, but if the figure has staged hinges- you know, the hinges that pop around an octagon base for positioning, you can shave 5 years off of that.

>>6489469
>don't let me detain you

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>>6489469
You can turn the minicon-friend into a giant hand

>>6489467
>>6489468
>>6489474
Well,thank you. I will stick at Star Wars and Lego.

>>6489483
i highly avoid the black series then, as well as wear good sturdy shoes

>>6489483
>I will stick at Star Wars and Lego.
Lego Technic parts start busting after about 5 years in my experience. Not just the sockets but almost anything plastic with an axle hole.

Rescue Bots Academy will be shown at Hascon. It is literally Super Deformed G1... in Junior High School. Unicron is the Lunch Lady.

>>6489216

who is that suppose to be?

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>>6489496

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>>6489496
>Unicron is the Lunch Lady.

>>6489496
no pic no dic

>>6489496
Hey, you fags finally got the G1 sequel you've been whining for.

>>6489496
What about TF Cyberverse?

>>6489508
It's another G1 reboot. This one is more serious like Transformers Prime. The plot revolves around universes. The Maximals are also in the show,the Predacons are missing though.

>>6489511
I was about to forget,it will have a crossover with the new Micronauts show.
Both will come out next year on Cartoon Network.

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Battle Mode, bitches!

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>>6489520

>>6489242
Prime figures ended up at Big Lots and Ross for $7, and Walmart created $10 bundles by taping together two figures from the Beast Hunters line.

>>6489543
$10 for two sounds alright, hopefully that anon goes back for Ripclaw instead pf Bulkhead. Fuck BH Bulkhead.

>>6489494
>Lego Technic parts start busting after about 5 years
Do you live in Phoenix or something? I have a 20 year old bucket of Technic parts kicking around here somewhere and non of the pieces ever broke on me, just rubber bits like o-rings and bands.

>>6489521
Wow I've never seen that. Same mold too.

>>6489431
>sexualized text on tfwiki
>same people complain that generations arcee is too sexualized

Fucking hypocrites

>>6488227

The combination of vehicle/robot/funky weird modes/humans felt like the MASK crossover we've always secretely wanted.

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>>6489228
i really didnt expect this level of transformation on a deluxe. the damn thing has ball joints for a ball joint.

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>>6489684
overall i like him better than i thought i would. the only down side is despite the complex transformation he feels really thin and the kibbles didn't really dissipates on the right place.

>>6489684
Yeah TFP Smokescreen was a nice surprise. They went back to TFP:FE's standard of parts and engineering for that one toy. The best thing is that they made the "beastial armor" thing totally optional .

>>6489686
I like him, other than his arm-kibble being a bit larger than I'd like. I've never once put that rubber thing on him though.

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>>6489690
>>6489691
the rubber thing all oily out of the box. its like its melting or something

>>6489698
Gross, did it leak on the figure? Mine wasn't oily when I got it, but then mine wasn't shelfwarming for like four years either.

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>>6489700
nah the figure alright. just checked the soft plastics parts on the figure and no problem.

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>SDCC TLK prime
>$66

It is worth it?

I was thinking about buy the normal retail one for around $30 (local normal retail price) and buy a few can (blue, silver, and red) of paint which will cost me another $10.

But SDCC version seems to cover most of the missing color already beside the one on the shoulder not to mention I don't have to spend the time to paint it.

>>6489116
And it is still a better animated film than the TF movie. I swear, you idiots can't stay on topic when discussing things.

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>>6489459
>it can't even be used as a cudgel

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>>6489706
That's good, it seems that he might be the only one of the bunch without that marbled plastic, I don't remember any others though I mostly skipped the line.

>>6489731
You could fix most of what the SDCC one does on the regular figure with sharpies, anon. Probably not worth it desu.

>>6489731
id say no but im still waiting for weijang to make an up-scaled one to go with megs

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>>6489559
alright Ripclaw it is

>>6489755
>sharpies

Does the ink even stick to plastic at all?
Is it is acrylic, i don;t know it will hold at all in the long run

>>6489232
Which is strange considering it supposedly sold better than Prime and Age of Extinction.

>>6489762
Do their heads come off and turn into little girls?

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>>6489749

Also
>nb4 but I wanna use his gun toooo!

Then use one of the CW crowbar weapons. Plug it into the tail, boom. Club with no problem.

>buh buh I didn't buy anything from CW

Not my fault you didn't invest in one of the best lines in the past 20 years for TF's.

>>6489762
c-cute!

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>>6489787
For Krok I use it as a backpack comms set.

>>6489792

Is that a titanmaster he's holding, or a minicon of some sort?

>>6489794
>>6489792
Krok's actionmaster partner, I love those springloaded little bastards.

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>>6489794
>>6489796
Yeah I had Krok and his buddy as a kid but the AM itself got taken by toy goblins or something

>>6489802
Strangely I had Krok's partner as a kid but have no recollection of having Krok himself, similarly I've had Catgut forever but only found a Gutcruncher at a thrift shop by chance a couple years ago.

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>>6489238
>>comparing a movie with a budget of $6million to a movie with a budget of $1.1BILLION
In YEN, anon. the budget roughly converts to $10 million in 1988 dollars. Still more than TF, but not by a whole lot. I think the big difference here comes down to who's behind the helm:

>TF:TM, animated by Toei and using a slew of Mecha animators better known for working on /m/ anime like SPT Layzner and Gundam. Animation is a mixed bag between well animated/detailed scenes like Unicron's attacks on Lithrone and Cybertron and error-riddled (both continuity and animation-wise) scenes like most of the Autobot City battle. Keeping in mind that the movie was also being animated while the show itself was still airing.

>Akira, Animated by TMS using a slew of notable (then) up and coming animators, including one or two who also worked on TF, such as Shinya Ohira (who drew pic related). Animation is much more consistent and high quality as a result of different time and budget factors compared to TF.

It's not that TF has worse animation than Akira (In fact, there's arguably worse animated movies from the 80s like Pound Puppies and Battle of the Rock Lords, but that's a different story). Let's just say it's more... uneven, like many of Toei's other films (the Fist of the North Star film comes to mind).

I will give them this- the fact that they animated an entire cast of hard surfaced characters without the aid of computers or rotoscoping for 90 minutes is a bit of an accomplishment in and of itself.

>>6489792
>>6489802
I wanna expand on my CHUG Decepticons, should I get him even though he's a literal who? For the matter, Skullcruncher would probably be one of my favorite TR figures if it wasn't for the awfully bland paintjob and loose knee swivles, and for what it looks Krok does appear to have fixed that. Maybe keeping Skullcruncher in crocodile mode and Krok in robot mode could be a neat display or else?

>>6489579
>Do you live in Phoenix or something?
Texas.

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>>6489762
You won't regret it, she's a sassy dragon lady.

>>6489807
>similarly I've had Catgut forever but only found a Gutcruncher at a thrift shop by chance a couple years ago.
Catgut came with Treadshot.

New bread:

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>>6489834
Had the name mixed up, that's the one though.

>>6489650
It's okay if it's faggots though. Boobies are not allowed.

>>6489813
>In YEN

Oh god, thanks for the laugh. I can't believe someone thought a studio would spend a BILLION dollars making a movie.