/tfg/ - Transformers General

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So, after negotiating back and forth for weeks I'll be getting the complete first wave of BW 10th anniversary (Cheetor, Rhinox, Waspinator, Dinobot, Rattrap, Tarantulas and the buildable Transmutate that comes with them, all MIB) plus an assorted loose Polar Claw, all for 65 euros next friday (about 76 USD).

What am I in for, /tfg/? I know Dinobot suffers from heavy GPS, is he still displayable in dino mode or is it bad to the point where I should just leave him inside the box for eternity? Any important advice or just overall opinions on the other figures?

The Trypticon tail issue is probably dependant on the spring for the tail mechanism, it's stupidly tight, even more so than the one in the hips.

The annoying thing is you practically need to take Trypticon apart to take this spring out.

>>6484614
Surely gluing that loose cross piece in place is all you need to do?

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>forced headmasters are finally gone

>>6484621
Oh I'm doing that, but I'll wear that spring out as well. I'm not taking chances, despite a few transformation, I could already see stress marks on the + on the tail.

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>>6484624
>forced combiners are back in

Can't get rid of one devil without getting the other one, eh?

>>6484613
Every single piece of Dinobot is made of GPS.

he's more breakable than BWN Randy.

>>6484640
Combiner wars
>i turn into a hand
>i turn into a legs
>im a torso
>now were a NEW character!

headmasters
>i turn into a head!
>i turn into a cube that fits in a hole!

i worship the all mighty Combiner satan

>>6484613
I own Waspinator and he's solid af.

>all for 65 euros
Whoa, I thought they'd go for a lot more. Great purchase, anon.

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>>6484641
>>6484613
Basically. I'd leave him in the box and get some other redeco of him to scratch that itch. Like the original toy.

>>6484613

Besides Dinobot, the other guys don't have problems as far as I know. Polar Claw is pretty excellent for a wave 1 guy. The springs on mine in the forearms were always a bit touchy though.

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>>6484649
Although the best version is still Thrustor. I've not heard of him getting GPS and I hope my stays together forever; he's so weird and wonderful.

>>6484649
The big orange legs on the underside should kill it for me, but I have too profound a love for this toy

>>6484654
I love how the translucent aspect of it implies you're supposed to imagine they aren't there in beast mode. Its toyetic silliness. I always felt that if we ever get organic beast formers in other media, they should have imperfect beast modes, with exposed robotic bits,a nd have hologram technology in show to explain away the difference. Maybe even some beast bit clip-on gimmicks, for a dino damage aspect.

Is Walgreens going to stock Wingspan and Cloudraper soon?

>>6484653
I wish the Cyborg Beasts were easier to find. A slightly watered down Hellscream was the only one to make it to the states, and barely at that.

Dinobot was supposed to be MP-40 but after poor sales of Cheetor and less than expected of Primal he's been put on the backburner and will most likely be cancelled entirely.

>>6484690
They should have followed the logic of the original MP series and gone "Popular villain", "Munky again", "Megatron", "Villain's recolors"

>>6484690
nice try, butthurt Geewunner.

>>6484690
>but after poor sales of Cheetor

Citation needed. Not that this is hard to believe, mind no. Who the fuck ever liked this faggot anyway?

Is the toys r us exclusive Megatron worth it?

>>6484725
It's an alright mold. I like the colors.

>>6484704
>Who the fuck ever liked this faggot anyway?
Is this bait or are you just retarded? Cheetor was the yellow nimble kid appeal character of the Beast Era, of course there are a lot of people who like him.

>>6484730

Neither, he was unlikeable as fuck. Optimus, Rattrap, and Dinobot were where it was at for the Maximal side.

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Since we're on a full Beast Wars theme ITT, is Generations Rattrap any good?

>>6484738

You have to shave down some parts on him or else he'll break IIRC. It's a design flaw.

>>6484738
imho, he actually looks slightly better than the CG model itself.

>>6484704
Cheetor was a perfect first figure for BW MP after Optimus because he's like Sideswipe. No one really liked his character, except for maybe small kids, but he had a cool design and had seniority.

>>6484690
Gonna need some kind of proof where you're getting this info.

>>6484690
Post proof. I've seen this rumor in other places as well.

>>6484745
His ass, pretty sure hes the same that said TR Wreckgar was a dlx Groove repaint.

>>6484764
Didn't that turn out to be true?

>>6484738
Mine feels so cheap in my hands but I like the figure.

>no Octopunch from Razorclaw
>no Bomburst from Bat Primal or Sonar
>no Stranglehold from Rhinox
>no Carnivac or Weirdwolf from Wolfang or K-9
>no Snapdragon from TM Megs
>no Apeface from TM Primal
>no Shrapnel from Insecticon
>no Predaking (Razorclaw, Divebomb, Rampage) from Magnaboss (Prowl, Silverbolt, Ironhide)
>no Stunticons from BM Mirage
>no G1/g2 Scavenger from BM Scavenger

BW/BM/U1 dropped some major balls.

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>>6484730
I fucking hated Cheetor, and I'm pretty sure 99% would vote for MP Dinobot over Cheetor if a poll had been made.

>>6484738
I found him a major pain to transform, but I'm also a hamhanded retard.

>>6484765
Theres no more info than a dlx wrekgar listed on walgreens system, no one knows yet, maybe he'll be revealed on Hascon.

>>6484667
probably right after they get rid of the remaining Brainstorms

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>>6484769
Because quickie repaints based on superficial similarities have such long term appeal, right?

We tried it, and now all of its on eBay now that proper classic or 3P versions exist.

So I'm seeing a lot of MPP10s on ebay with a half grey axe and a yellow matrix. Are these KOs of Wei Jiang's MPP10?

I really don't want a yellow matrix or sloppy joints. Anyone have any experience with this? Help.

>>6484818

I saw one at TFCon last month.

What do the Black Mamba Bootlegs of TLK Voyager Optimus and Megs have over their legit versions? Cheaper?

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>>6484653
True story: This was my first item I bought on Ebay WAY back in '99 when I first joined.

Love this figure.

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>>6484653
How come no one has repainted him into a Fallout super mutant? His head is basically perfect for the task.

>>6484959
Too rare to waste on a custom.

>>6484739
Citation? I 'haven't broken mine and I've had it since release.

>>6484995

Don't have a citation, but some Anon here can explain the problem. Something on him causes breakage issues I know that much.

>>6484959
Why is he green? This mold was never repainted.

>>6484997
>Something on him causes breakage issues I know that much.
His shin transformation.
>>6484995
>Citation
Too lazy to download and repost, but you can find it easy, just google "generations rattrap fix"
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/generations-rattrap.985384/page-6

>>6485000
Tripple zeroes don't give you excuse to avoid reading the post.

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>>6485004
Is it this? I saved this ages ago.

And my Trypticon tail broke. I just removed the broken bits so there's no clanking noises, this sadly means I can't leave the tail up anymore.

>>6485011
How'd they fuck up Trypticon so bad? I was excited for him but he sounds like so much trouble.

>>6485008
>>6485004
>golden plastic on a hinge with a bump to apply pressure
That's just asking for trouble.

>>6485007
Nothing about the post suggests the image was Photoshopped, tard. I had to look up the toy on the wiki to realize it was the same image.

>>6485014
The hips are super easy to fix, but yeah, his issues can be:

-Springs in the hips may be too strong
-They can add two of the same inner hip pieces (posted on TFW, a few users got saddled with this error).
-Tail can also have the spring issue AND it was designed poorly so it will eventually break.

Elaborating on the tail issue, the design flaw is that there's two circular pieces that work to position the tail, but one of those pieces needs to clip into a cylindrical part that's directly connected to the tail. The connection between those pieces is extremely simple, which leads to breakage in the long run.

Oh and Trypticon has the dragon mouth section of the tail (the gray bit) painted, despite that piece being separate form the purple railing/street thing, making it weird it wasn't casted in gray in the first place, and an issue since it might scrape against the ground if you move it. Same for the bottom of the feet since they're painted white.

>>6485023
>I had to look up the toy on the wiki to realize it was the same image.
HAHAHAHHAHA oh wow.

>>6485025
Forgot to add the door on the chest can have issues closing properly, and need heating or tape on one side to close. This is a really widespread problem, but mine somehow didn't get that.

>>6484690
I believe it because of what a shitty thrown together mess MP-40 is.

>>6485019
It's orange.

>>6485026
Who the fuck has every photograph that Walky took for the wiki memorized by pose and angle? Oh, that's right. Nobody, asshole.

Shit looked like a knock off.

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>>6485023
Anon no

>>6485045
>>6484959
>>6484653
Your lack of atention is astonishing.

>>6485045
Nigga it's literally the same pic in the post the guy was replying to. Your ass is just daft buddy.

>>6485045
Autists are more attentive than you.

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post yfw Takara Dinosaurer has just as many QC problems as Hasbro Trypticon

>>6485072
Isn't it basically the same as the hasbro version, paint and sticker wise?

>>6485023
Uh, next time try clicking on the post he's replying to

>>6485025
Do you have a pic of the tail piece that needs to be glued?

>>6485030
It looks swirly metallic orange to me. Not exactly golden more like copper but almost there.
Remember that Randy was more of a metallic bronze, not gold, and it explodes when you exert any type of force near its existential space.

>>6485101
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Gold_Plastic_Syndrome
>Despite the name, Gold Plastic Syndrome has been known to affect other types of plastic—most of them noted for a pretty metallic swirl in the plastic;
Its gps even though it's not gold

>>6485098
Nope, should have done it earlier but I don't think I'll ever take mine apart, again.

Where's that anon that said he had taken apart MP Artfire's waist and sprayed dry lube on the ratchets? I'm trying to do it, but it really doesn't want to come apart, and I don't want to force it.

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>>6485110
Nope, this has nothing to do with GPS, Hasbro hasn't used that sort of plastic in a figure for over a decade now. The issue here is a poorly designed joint which suffers from excessive pressure, hence why shaving it off actually solves the issue entirely. If it was actual GPS then poor Rattrap would not have stress marks or clear cracks in certain spots, but rather, he would literally crumble to pieces with just the slightest pressure applied in any of the orange parts.

>>6484793

So...the combiners are basically the same as the old toys they were based on? Simple as fuck, and nearly no one cared about the individual parts, only the fuck huge monster they combined into? I don't think you understand why people wanted these characters, anon. It wasn't to have mini-masterpiece figures with 30 step transformations, it was for the giant figures.

>>6485157
Oh, i thought we were talking about original beast wars stuff, not the new stuff, my bad

>>6485165
I just want to act out rom-com scenes with my combaticons.

>>6485165
>It wasn't to have mini-masterpiece figures with 30 step transformations, it was for the giant figures.
Yeah. I've realized I'm in the minority of TF collectors. I don't give a shit about size or character checklists or accuracy. I just want good toys.

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>>6485165
>b-but muh combiners are what's really important!

That's not the best excuse for mediocre individual robots but it could still have been an acceptable compromise - that is, if the combiners themselves didn't look like utter disproportionate shit, with massive limbs and large plain unpainted pieces and comically tiny feet. If those abysmal gestalts are the best excuse for the sacrifices in Deluxes and Voyagers then it seems fair to say they completely and utterly fucked up the entire line.

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>>6485181
>if the combiners themselves didn't look like utter disproportionate shit
This. If the individual figures were compromised for the sake of pic related, it was a terrible compromise.

Also, type in the name of almost any CW combiner, and the first search suggestion will be "Combiner Wars ____________ upgrade"

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>>6485185
Even 3p combiners need add ons and/or upgrades, so I don't see the problem, CW gave us decent, afordable combiners of most of the teams.

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>>6485185
Pretty much, yeah. IMHO, the only combiner that actually looks competent without requiring any upgrades is Bruticus, and that is if you flip his legs in the "wrong" way to make him look remotely decent.

>>6485204
>3p combiners need add ons and/or upgrades
No, they don't. They sometimes get add-ons but you don't buy a 3rd party gestalt thinking it's only going to look remotely passable from an aesthetic level if you spend an extra 50 dollars on an upgrade kit just for slightly bigger feet.

>>6485204
>2 Optimus Primes
>8 '84 Autobots shoehorned as limbs
>2 '86 guys suddenly becoming combiners
>3 oc donutsteels

Only a cuck defends CW

>>6484651
polar claw was one of the first purchases I ever made as a kid. Saved up money to get a toy for the first time in my life and decided on that

Never was a huge transformers fan but liked beast wars and the toys always called to me for some reason, couldn't ignore it when I saw him. No regrets, he's awlays been awesome.

Only complaints would be his foot sculpt and design (entire lower leg really) was pretty phoned in.

Also always lost his bat more often than not so bear form was always out of the queston, though thats my own fault + totally worth is cause the bat is awesome

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>>6485280
>polar claw was one of the first purchases I ever made as a kid

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>>6485171
>tfw can't even do that because of swindle's modern video game protagonist face
Thanks America...

>>6484844
KOs aren't automatically better than legit ones, you know.

>>6485299
exceptions exist

>>6485239
The leader Megatron is pretty good. I have the Armada version and it's nice. That's the best I can say for it.

>>6485239
The OCs were good but fuck every single 84/86 autobot release in CW that wasn't part of a combiner before.
They were infuriatingly unnecessary.

>>6485314
>84/86 autobot release in were infuriatingly unnecessary.

Those were options for new collectors who couldn't find or aford the classic molds, I even like CW Prowl better than the classics, shame they didn't remove the siren for Smokescreen-

>>6485332
Prowl was nice, John, but you have to admit that you were just being lazy at that point. Most of the Classics guys are not even that more expensive than the robbery the price for the CW line was.

I quite like that Astrotrain train mode, just not for Astro himself and Sentinel has a shit deco for both modes. Annoying.

Anyone have the new MP movie Bumblebee? Can you post him next to a deluxe car? Say, TR Chromedome, or the new movie Barricade?

>>6485239
I didn't mind these because they actually ended up finishing every vehicle based team from the G1 cartoon. Unlike TR where they didn't even touch any of the Headmaster Juniors, Apeface, or Snapdragon except for giving them shitty titanmaster class toys.

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>>6485185
>>6485181
The individual bots weren't compromised though. They were as simple as they needed to be.

>>6485314
If Hasbro had done Masquerade homage, that would have been OK but we didn't get that.

I really want to give Voyager Scorn a weapon for his right hand, any ideas?

>>6485369
It's starting to trickle out, we already have Optimus, and Mirage, and now we're getting Jazz. Sideswipe's the only one we're missing (I doubt we'd ever get a limb Windcharger)

>>6484738
It's good though I recommend that you be careful with the putting the guns in the hands

>>6485372
Do you have any 5mm compatible maces? Seeing as he already haves a lance/whip on one hand, a small short range melee weapon would work well. I'd also consider a small dagger but it wouldn't look as cool.

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So, how many Masterpiece car bots are left before we cover the entirety of season 1? Trailbreaker / Hoist, Hound, Jazz, Mirage, Skids, and all the minibots besides Bumblebee are the ones that come to mind at the moment.

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>>6485369
>check masquerade's synopsis since i haven't watched it since forever
>"Megatron sends the Stunticons on a mission to find components for an unrevealed purpose, including the world’s largest, most perfect ruby."
okay

>>6485364
>as simple as they needed to be
That's compromise, you maroon.

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>>6485364
not with that greebles

>>6485395
No it's not. There's no point making the transformations needlessly complex if the alt mode and robot mode satisfy what the character is.

>>6485384
Blech. I am so sick of the '84 crew. I used to be dying for them to finish it, but after Sunstreaker looks like such shit, I really don't care.

It's more than that, too, really. CW was a fucking overload of the generic '84 bots, and after TR teased us with all kinds of wacky stuff and PotP seems to be following suit, the probable lineup of future MP bots is like a fucking snooze cruise in comparison.

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>>6485395
>I need my toys to partsform and pointlessly have their torsos spin otherwise it's compromised

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>>6485404
>I need everybody to know what I dislike every single day

>>6485404
Let me let you in on a secret. Combiners are the ultimate partsformers.

>>6485410
The component robots don't partsform.

>>6485401
>but after Sunstreaker looks like such shit, I really don't care.

I thought the Universe one did a good job, with an excellent transformation and bitching head sculpt.

>>6485415
I usually hate Classics/Universe but Sunstreaker was as close as we are ever getting to perfect from the looks of the MP.
To think they could've just copypasted the engineering and tweak it instead of fucking up like that.

>>6485415
Universe one was just too obviously Sideswipe remold. One of Sunstreaker's defining physical traits is the front of the car becoming his feet, which Universe lacked.

>>6485401
>the probable lineup of future MP bots is like a fucking snooze cruise in comparison.

Probably because Takara is about making money with no risks. 3P's are the only ones churning out the literal who's, and even then they still crap out 84 bot MP's.

>>6485404
>I need all engineering and complexity stripped from my figures otherwise it's "partsforming"

>>6485314
>The OCs were good but fuck every single 84/86 autobot release in CW that wasn't part of a combiner before.

Why? What's wrong with including staple characters in lines/gimmicks that they may not have been part of before? You still got your Combaticons, Stunticons, Constructicons, Aerialbots, and Protectobots out of the deal. You lost absolutely nothing from them throwing shit like a wonky Cyclonus that combines into a giant Galvatron or Optimus that combines into an even bigger Optimus into the mix. You might be interested in them, but perhaps some kid would be.

>>6485457
I'm really fucking glad Takara did Unite Warriors because I couldn't find any of the Hasbro ones anywhere on retail other than the first wave, the repaint wave, and the sky reign wave.
If they hadn't I wouldn't have got anything I wanted from the line.

>>6485418
All they needed to do was blend the toy and cartoon models with some new ideas like they had been doing since MP-10, and Sunstreaker could have turned out really great. Instead we got a clusterfuck of panels and fake kibble with a massive backpack and a bland face.

I know it's not an identical task, but MP Wheeljack managed a similar transformation scheme and nailed it pretty well. Although there are certainly plenty of cartoon purists that piss and moan about the design choices they made there. I'm glad we got him before the current design retardation kicked off.

>>6485463
>bland face
The face is the best part for me, and the one thing about it I really like.

>>6485428
>One of Sunstreaker's defining physical traits is the front of the car becoming his feet, which Universe lacked

Really? His feet?
Dude, come on. Just because it was *A* physical trait doesn't mean it was a defining one. If you can take a trait away from a character, and the character is still perfectly recognizable as the character they're supposed to be, it ain't a defining trait.

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>>6485465
Blehhhh. Your opinion I guess. I wish they'd go back to painting them silver and sculpting them with nice, hard edges. These don't really look robotic, they look like they're made out of clay.

>>6485467
>>6485428
Back when Universe kicked off, they were a LOT more liberal about abandoning established design hallmarks of characters. Back then, the line was truly more about re-imagining the character as a modern toy and trying new things. Now it's almost like the Generations line has de-evolved into budget Masterpiece.

>>6485469
>That silver part of Sunstreaker's backpack

Not sure if that is chrome or diecast metal. If it's really chrome, I'd bet that there's going to be a lot of bad chipping

>>6485482
>I'd bet that there's going to be a lot of bad chipping
Chrome doesn't ALWAYS chip, you know. This is just one more thing that TF fans seem to have been conditioned to hate, like paint, or good transformations, or transparent windows, or pinned wheels.

All of the chrome on every MP I own is immaculate. Not sure what you people are doing to yours.

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I still can't get over how much this stings, especially after all the love they put into Artfire, I thought MP Targetmasters were gonna become my new jam.

>>6485488
A lot of the hate is justified. It's not unheard of to get paint or chrome on parts that contact other parts and the end result is guaranteed scratching even with the softest handling. People are just reasonably wary.

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How do I into display case lighting, /tfg/? I'll finally be moving my collection from the slumber of cardboard boxes to some proper black Billy bookcases with glass doors and I would totally love to have them adorned with some LED lights on each of the 40 or so shelves. What are the best ones for the effect, both in terms of practicability when installing and cost-wise considering how much I'll have to light up? Will I have to cut up holes and install a bunch of electricity extensions and stuff for everything to work together?

I would ideally love something like pic related, although it does look like a fairly expensive and complicated setup.

>>6485469
I get what you're saying, but the overall dimensions of his face are nice and give character. Love the slimness, love the chin.

The backpack is too much of a clusterfuck, though. Hot Rod's backpack (good as the figure in general is) was enough for me, even if I love it. And also, unlike Hot Rod, Sunstreaker is going for over $100 for whatever fucking reason.

>>6485500
What's wrong with it?

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>>6485506
Or pic related, which also looks fine. Anyone knows what kind of lights are these and how easy or hard they are to install?

>>6485508
>Sunstreaker is going for over $100 for whatever fucking reason.
More engineering costs, justified by all the random pointless accessories, likely.

>>6485488
I don't understand how transfags came to hate chrome, which is perfectly resilient unless you're going PEAUGH SMASH on them or live inside a lake, but keep loving rubber tires, that are a toss up nowadays, and diecast, which can completely destroy a figure in the long run.
I just find it absurd.

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>>6485469
We've been having this discussions for maybe literally hundreds of threads by now, anon. It doesn't really matter by this point, cartoon apologists will always stick to their nostalgia-conditioned aesthetic appreciations.

We will never have detailed Masterpieces again.

>>6485513
Is that what pushes the prices on some Turd Patties?
I've seen some outright retarded engineering on those.

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>>6485520
I love all of those three. The thing about chrome is knowing how to use it sparingly, it worked on some Henkei figures rather well.

>>6485510
They based it on the worst-animated episodes of the cartoon, which is why it has that stupid gray spot on the crotch which looks awful and was probably a coloring error. Also, the light stripes on the center of his boots are supposed to indicate highlights/shading, but the morons at Takara mistook it for an actual color difference and it looks ugly as fuck. Also, the clear windshield and gray support piece look ugly, no idea why they did that. Oh, and also, let's not forget that Artfire got a completely new Targetmaster molded from scratch, while Roddy got an 8-year-old remold that looks dumpy and lazy in comparison. I was honestly expecting a toy-deco, which could have looked gorgeous in the vein of MP Artfire, but instead they went cartoon retarded.

>>6485523
Turds also have higher costs to make a profit since they usually turn out smaller batches, and molds are fucking expensive.

>>6485008
it's the spots to shave down since yeah, they decided putting bumps there was a good idea
just be careful how far forward you go so you don't hit the paint

>>6485526
They can be good but I don't want diecast anywhere near anything smaller than a Leader-class littered in ratchets and rubber tires need to be quality unless they rot like the MP-10 ones did some time ago.
That's why I didn't point them out as bad in absolute terms, more like a "may damage if badly done".

>>6485529
Oh yeah, but things like almost every single 3P combiner and Apollyon have some foot-in-mouth retarded design decisions.

>>6485520
This. I own MP Prime (01 and 10), Nemesis, Soundwave, Hot Rod, Ultra Magnus, Ironhide and Artfire, all of which have chrome in varying amounts, and all of which looks just as new as the day they came out of the box. I've heard a lot of people had problems with Hot Rod's chrome, so maybe I'll give that a pass, but the fact that literally NONE of my adult-owned figures have any chrome wear, it makes me think people are just too rough with their shit.

>>6485384
I'm not sure where you're getting Skids and Hoist. The series 1 Autobots are who's in your picture. That leaves-
>Hound
>Trailbreaker
>Mirage
>Jazz
>Gears
>Windcharger
>Brawn
>Cliffjumper
>Huffer

>>6485529
I actually didn't realize the deco on it was that different from the last time. Having expanded the picture I see all these things now.

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>>6485542
Here's a comparison. They also made his eyes lighter and his face darker, which really kind of makes them blend in too much.

>>6485539
Yeah. Chrome is not that fragile, really. I have a couple of Transmetal 2 figures, from my childhood mind you, and they still have most of their chrome.

>>6485290
god fuck sins, they turned guzzle into a fucking freak

>>6485566

Pretty sure Guzzle was shown as unhinged way before Sins. Remember when they had to keep him in a big fucking metal box?

>>6485587
>Remember when they had to keep him in a big fucking metal box?
No? When did that happen?

>>6485625

I might be mis-remembering, but I'm pretty sure sometime around the "Galvatron takes over Cybertron" arc wasn't Guzzle stuffed inside of a box around the time Springer was still all fucked up from the original Wrecker's story when Overlord beat his ass?

>>6485627
Okay, I looked it up. I've never read Sins and it sounded like you were referring to something before it.

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>>6485529
>They based it on the worst-animated episodes of the cartoon, which is why it has that stupid gray spot on the crotch which looks awful and was probably a coloring error.

Actually it's because Hot Rod had an impossible transformation when Floro Dery designed him: Hot Rod's pelvis is his car mode's entire windshield. His wrists are the tail lights. His front wheels end up on the back of his arms, despite his front end facing the front of his robot mode. AKOM consistently colored Hot Rod and Rodimus's pelvis like they were a window, as they were meant to be.

In fact, MP09 tributed the fact that Hot Rod's windscreen turns into his crotch by casting the part in Translucent plastic and sculpting in driving compartment detail inside.

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>>6485522

>>6485644
I'm not sure if you're trying to make a point or not.

>>6485644
>masterpiece

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DOTM sideswipe or ROTF sideswipe? both are $20
sorry i keep asking questions like this, im still new with TF stuff. also its kinda hard to find TF in my country.

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In my frustration I decided to just try and customize a trailer for CW Optimus myself.

>>6485653
ROTF is painted for one. DOTM has a beautiful repaint in the Movie Advanced line that also comes with Crosshairs' guns but it's really expensive.
Also, mistransforming transformers is the real path to making them great. If you get the ROTF, use the car kibble as heels for extra stability.

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>>6485653
None, go for Sidearm Sideswipe.

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>>6485653
"Nascar" deco also avaliable with lots of references or go for the takara release if you want full silver, easy his best deluxe mold.

>>6485660
>>6485661
I get suicidal thoughts whenever I remember that I passed on one of those because I was trying to be careful with my money.
Twelve fucking dollars.

>>6485659
>>6485660
>>6485661
dang this looks cool.
but i think ill get ROTF one. thanks goys

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>>6485181

>>Fans demand the return of combiners.
>>Hasbro brings back combiners.
>>MFW Fans continue to complain even when given what they ask for.

>>6485181
Maybe Bruticus is an outlier but mine is pretty stable even with the joke feet.
They literally needed only one piece, a balljointed peg, to not get rid of the stability issues.

>>6485719
POTP's series looks like it will have combiner feet with ankle tilts, so I'm glad they didn't give up on the line. I genuinely loved it.

Like no joke, Combiner Wars got me back into collecting Transformers.

>>6485655
But did you make it able to combine with optimus?

>>6485719
*to get rid of the stability issues.
oh fugg

>>6485722
I'll never understand the playskool shit-flinging. The transformations were fine for the characters, the original toys were beyond playskool and that's all they needed.
Combiner Wars was great, the incessant autobot repaints were the only bad thing about it.

Best TLK voyager:Megatron and Optimus Prime.
Best TLK deluxe:Barricade and Wave 3 Bumblebee and Cogman.

Also,post your Bayformers collection.

>>6485729
My only real complaints were that we needed a few more variations of combiner torso, some better hands and feet, and a few more limb robot variants.

I'm getting like all of those complaints rectified soon though. I'm like ultra hype to see how the POTP Dinobots look.

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>>6485727
Right now its just a half assed cannon, working on getting it looking better and having more functionality.

>>6485722
same here, saw Hot Spot in a TRU, thought he was cool looking
Want to get all the guys to make his combiner, Defensor looks sweet, BAM now I want combiners

Silverbolt torso is awesome
Motormaster torso is shit, but PE kit redeems it
Never got Sky Lynx or Liokaiser, so can't speak for it, heard something about loose ratchets?

I've found TR wave 4 at ToysRUs, Forbidden Planet, A1 and Smyths for any other UKfags here looking for them, picked up Topspin and he's bretty gud.

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>>6485760
Did you see Shuffler?

>>6485762
No titan masters any of the places I checked sadly, I was looking for him myself.

>>6485738

You got Cogman?

LUCKY!

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We got this early in Singapore it seems

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The tiny one is cast in a darker shade of red. Could've used that for the Warrior-class...

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Teeny Tiny Monsterbots, I'm just missing a mini-Grotusque

>>6485784
Yep. He is awesome.

>>6485794
Are the warrior figures good? Quality wise. I want to get the rumoured Megatron(not Megatronus) and Cyclonus figures.

>MFW,nobody talks about the G1 reboot:Transformers Cyberverse and how cool the new designs look.

>>6485797
Next time I see a Fangry in stores I'm going to pick one up. Some gray and blue paint and he'll be Grotusque enough for me.

>>6485627
That was in Sins too.

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>>6485801
They are okay. I wouldn't say they are good, but they are adequate enough for the characters. Fine likeness, enough articulation to match TR but a little more hollow. The later ones are better.

> the rumoured Megatron(not Megatronus)
That was from that one poster shitting out his ass and never posting sauce or pics. Don't believe him.

>Cyclonus
...isn't getting a Warrior class figure. There's only the Legion and the shitty Combiner one.

>>6485799

where are located at?

somewhere in Asia I'd guess?

>>6485820
Nope. U.S.

>>6485808
Thanks. Well,it sucks that we won't get figures of Meg and Cyclonus. Meg is teased to appear in the show though.

>>6485794
I still wish the Warrior class one was cast in the burgundy that all the renders showed. It was the coolest thing. I ended up passing on it because of that awful plastic, but I think I have room in my heart for a mini version.

>>6485587
Guzzle going off the deep end and becoming bloodier than Impactor was in several post-LSoTW one page comics.

>>6485838
Did you buy it online? If not, you better give your location.

>>6485711
It's just one persistent anon

>>6485634
>AKOM consistently colored Hot Rod and Rodimus's pelvis like they were a window, as they were meant to be.
Can you cite a source for this, or are you just bullshitting? Because in Hot Rod's very first transformation in his first ever appearance in the movie, his windshield clearly just folds into his chest.

>>6485743
>>6485655
Kek, I was about to comment on how that looks like a Thunder Clash trailer until I realized it actually is one. Still, good job, it does look neat!

>>6485886
I buyed it from Ebay.

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>This is a thing

>>6485981
It transforms into garbage, one-step

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>>6485981
capitalism ho!

>>6485918
That is Machine Wars Optimus Prime to us non-Eurabians.

>>6485981
HASBRO WINS AGAIN

>>6485808
Still waiting for this fucking figure, RID Twinferno, AND wave 5 deluxes of TR. Too bad all the stores near me went full retard and over ordered wave 1 movie shit.

>>6486006
Just wait for the Takara version with superior paint apps

>>6486011
If they have the same quality as the modern Masterpiece Spinner series then no chance

>takes 0.3 secs to spin
>paint will scratch at the third spin
>$30

Seriously the old MP spinners were much better

>>6485413
>THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS IN WHICH I CAN ACCEPT

>>6486041
>overly-complex ball bearings
>bland screen-accurate deco
>$30+shipping
I'd try 3P spinners but they're $500 and shatter when they spin

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>>6485913
he might be going from the show.

Because in the show it was never consistent

>>6485931
>buyed

Your nationality is showing

>>6485995
Would that thing even spin correctly?

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>>6485913
I said designed to be. Not what was executed.

His older character model even gave him side windows on his hips

Really, it's no more of a morphing design than something out of Beast Wars.

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>>6486057
And before that one anon comes in screaming NO G1 WAS THE TRASH KOREAN SHIT BEAST WARS PERFECT CG MODELS DON'T CHEAT

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>>6486041
>>6486048
>All these hamspinners too afraid and poor to get the superior remolded Ginrai Spinner

Mine spins just fine.

>>6486059
>G1 WAS THE TRASH KOREAN SHIT
Well he's right about that part, at least.

>>6486073
That's like saying Beast Wars was just fart jokes.

>>6486079
So you're implying that G1 only looked like trash Korean shit on a single, isolated occasion? That is some industrial-strength delusion.

>>6486050
Some people think the worst thing about this image is the obvious scale fuck-up, but to me it's how poorly the characters are set in the background. The way they are standing and the angle of their feet do not match the floor they are standing on. It really looks like they just threw the cel on a random background and said "fuck it".

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Should I?

>>6486113
Is that the Dreadwing/Megatron mold repainted? I liked it as Dreadwing but dunno if he's worth getting as a Megatron, then or now.

>>6486113

Zombie dude seems cool, bot so much Megatron repaint.

>>6486113

Yes, you should throw them both in the trash before someone mistakenly buys that garbage.

>>6486124
He could give them to a friend's kid if he hates them and wants to see a child cry.

>>6486086
I think the worst thing about that picture is that shitposters think it wins their argument.

>>6486142
Which argument? That the cartoon shouldn't really be used as a template for anything because of its rampant inconsistency and shit quality?

Because it kind of does win, in that case.

>>6486113
No.
The voyager megatron is better.
The skullitron mold is a floppy joke.

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Fiery blades from some RID Minicon

>>6486151
Because when people remember Devastator, they don't remember the time he was a looming giant, or was a looming giant, or was a looming giant.

No, they only remember that one time he was drawn the same size as Soundwave for a one frame animation error from the most universally hated G1 episode ever made.

>>6486155
Can they sorta wedge sideways in those little hands so the beastmode can breath fire?

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>>6486159
sorta

>>6485981
Fun fact:The Optimus,Bumblebee and Megatron faces on these things are based on the new show called Cyberverse. A G1 REBOOT.

>>6486155
Aw, no knees. If no elbows these little guys at least sometimes have knees which is nice. Might still get for the novelty of a little stealth jet with 2 dragon heads attached.

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>>6485913

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hot_Rod_(G1)/Generation_1_cartoon_continuity#Notes

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>>6486200
>Rodimus Prime's early model appears to carry the trailer of the truck on his back, plus additional kibble on the back of his forearms.

Thats an interesting coincidence.

>>6485165
>and nearly no one cared about the individual parts, only the fuck huge monster they combined into?
Were you rich, lucky, or only looking back as an adult when you could buy re-issue box sets? A majority of us were lucky to complete a combiner and those individual bots were beloved toys all on their own.

Why not just base the masterpiece figures on the character sheets?
The toys were weird and clunky and the cartoon is outright physically impossible.

>>6485475
More like evolved. A low effort remold is not really big effort.

>>6485529
>stupid gray spot on the crotch which looks awful and was probably a coloring error.
From a character design standpoint, the crotch was meant to represent the roof and windshield of the car. The grey/white in the AKOM episodes was the glass.

>>6486195
It's not a good sign for the GEEWUNREBOOT you shill when the only toys are autism spinners.

>>6486268
It'll be like Bayblades only spinners, with spunky japanese schoolchildren battling them

>>6486268
How long until they destroy any chance at getting the same universal appeal of geewun had by hiring some fucktarded writer that pushes politics nobody cares about?

>>6486264
>Why not just base the masterpiece figures on the character sheets?
Isn't that what they are doing? The character sheets are the toon/comic designs after all.

>>6486266
Except that was already outdated and abandoned by the time Hot Rod first appeared in animation. We've already discussed this. It just looks stupid. But I forgot this fandom isn't about what looks good. It's about what looks accurate, even if it's being accurate to trash.

>>6484738
He's great if you overlook the cheapness and thin plastic.

>>6486303
This is kind of moving for some reason.

>>6484690
I remember an anon saying this exact same thing about Cheetor.

>>6485463
>toy and cartoon models with some new ideas

That's what they did you just don't like it.

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>I know I'm not very good, but maybe there's room in your collection anyway?

>>6486278
Then compromise or something?
I know that is not an option with MPs now because of the ideal that's been put forward by 3Ps using cheating transformations competing with Takara, but what was being done before looked better. The Datsuns and Sideswipe should've been the standard for post-revival MPs; just add the faceplates, the only actual improvement since MP-36.

>>6486329

Sure, I already have overcast and I love him. Join in !

>>6485711
>someone orders a hamburger
>is served a raw patty in moldy bread
>"DUDE THEN WHY'D YOU ASK FOR IT LMAO"

>>6486281
>thinks G1 looks stupid
>keeps buying it anyway

>>6486329
No, I sold you back then when I caught you molesting minicons with your tiny purple dick.

>>6486303
If he was a bit bigger he could pass for a MP, at least more than the 3p knockoff looking attempts.

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>>6486374
It's all consensual, baby

So, anyone here shop on Taobao? I'm so fucking lost.

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>>6486329
Older brother you're gonna need to lift some weights before anyone wants you on a shelf.

Messing around with Trypticon's tail gimmick, it seems like Full Tilt is the exact size to store in there, meaning if a figure is longer or wider than him, don't bother putting him in there. The only one of my old deluxes that managed to fit in there is T30 Trailbreaker, and only from the front, from the back he doesn't fit.

A good bench mark for the chest storage are Brawn and the new Bee/Road Rage in their vehicle modes. Anything larger than their dimensions will have trouble going in, which is disappointing since even some TM have issues

>>6486437
I just use the tail garage to store a bunch o seatguns to use in citymode, and the chest garage for the minicon assault team.

>>6486437
Sweet, I'll get the new Tailgate, Windcharger, and hopefully Wipeout and store them all in Trypticon.

>>6486451
What's wrong with the old Windcharger?

>>6486456
If you mean the RTS, I never got him, and the CW one looked too similar to MTMTE Tailgate.

>>6486457
Mandarake has the Windcharger vs Wipe Out two pack just so you know.

>>6485981
>>6486006
>>6486011
>>6486048
>>6486041
>>6486061
>not just getting the highly engineered third party spinners
Kek, poorfags.

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>>6486329
Your right arm balljoint might be completely loose but you'll always have a spot in my collection, Dreadbro <3

>>6486383
Dude, what the fuck? A minicon can't legally give "consent", what the hell is wrong with you?

>>6486383
>>6486514
>>6486517
Was there any transformation reason for the articuated dick?

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>>6486517
>legally

>>6486532

Whats the name of ice cream truck dude? How much does he go for?

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>>6486531
No, the whole crotch piece just literally goes under the aircraft during the transformation. I guess we the designers were just...

...


...


...


.. dicking around.

>>6486533
ROTF Skids&Mudflap, they're a combiner. Not sure what they're going for, probably around $30ish.

>>6486532
Holy shit, this "Dreadwing" is a child molester thing is incredibly funny even though he's one of my favorite childhood toys and therefore seeing him being degraded like that sort of hurts inside but it's fine because it's still hilarious somehow.

>>6486533
They're the ROTF Ice Cream Truck (Skids + Mudflap) and for some reason they can go up to 30 dollars loose and 60 MISB. Those old movie deluxes have been appreciating to an absurd level, you might as well just wait for the bubble to burst if you're interested in them.

>>6486545
>childhood toys
>movie Dreadwing

Transformers are for adults sweetie

>>6486535
Oh you.

>>6486553
Movie dreadwing was released 10 years ago grandpa, time flies.

>>6486553
I was 10 years old back in 2007, anon. It was still technically part of my childhood, or very early teenagehood at best.

>>6486553
>toys
>made by hasbro
>it's for adults
Bait aside, seeing Dreadwing makes me nostalgic for the Allspark Power line. Incinerator and Stockade were top notch

>>6486195
Not so
The designs match the my busybook art, where bee is just his generations design with a different hood, and megatron and optimus seem heavily based on the hero mashers designs.
Hell, there's two megatron designs and two bee designs.

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>>6486545
>Bayformers are old enough to be someone's childhood toy

>>6486603
>>6486553
I always get a kick out of seeing people talk about bayformers likes it's some passing fad from yesterday when it's been dominating the franchise for 10 years

>>6486605
>dominating

You clearly haven't been paying attention to AOE and TLK.

>>6486605

More like dominating the bargain bins ever since the 3rd movie.

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>>6486545
Aw man, Dreadwing dindu nuffin

>>6486383
>>6486532
>>6486609
Haha, thanks anon.

>>6486605
>dominating

LOL no. CHUG is dominating.

>>6486614
CHUG (which promoted reedun aesthetics) died with T30. The Warden era is nothing but forced gimmickry and half-assed geewunery

>>6486573
I wish we had gotten a Robot Replica of Stockade, all that Nucleon addiction bullshit in the comics and no toy came of it.
Weird that the guy with the most practical altmode for infiltration among all decepticons was stuck on Cybertron trying to put some order with his mob.

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I'm super late to getting a crocodile partsformer, but Krok is pretty damn neato. The neon yellow contrasting the darker colors make me think of glow in the dark mini golf.

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>>6486613
https://youtu.be/FFbWAE38DXs

>>6486637
I was lukewarm on Skullsmasher, but really love the deco for Krok. Always loved the AMs and seeing any of them get modernized makes me happy.
I just need a Treadshot dammit, the exclusive would've been great had they not charged an arm and a leg.

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>>6486637
Gator mode has almost all the articulation you could expect and need I think, but not having articulated back legs is a slight let down. It's neat that the robot's hip rotation turns into a waist rotation on the croc mode, I'd have expected it to lock up for no good reason. You can even get an ab crunch going for the croc mode if you use the leg joints, though the further you bend the more it looks like he's just coming apart.

...I have no idea why I'm posting about a year old toy everyone has like this.

>>6486641
I only got mine like two weeks ago, you're not behind the curve to me.

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>>6486641
The beast is the best part of the toy (which is kind of ironic for an action master character), but the bot is pretty neat too. For some reason I really like the way the gator head can curve against his back while it's a backpack. Maybe it just makes it feel more natural as opposed to a toy like Highbrow where the backpack is just this big rigid chunk sticking out.

I find it a little difficult to balance him unfortunately. He doesn't have much of a heel in his feet to help support the backpack. Also the hips are uselessly loose out of the box and needed floor polish.

>>6486640
I kind of avoided Skullsmasher because I knew if I got him I'd want to get Wolfwire and Mindwipe, but I wasn't really keen on getting two other bots with worse QC issues just to complete a set.

>>6486646
I like the trio myself, but we'll see how Mindwipe fares in a few years. Weirdwolf is fine apart from the hinge problem everyone has.

>>6486653
If it's any consolation, making new parts to replace the rubber bits on Mindwipe would be super easy for a third party, and removing the rubber areas is also easy. The one's who are fucked are Skullcruncher and Weirdwolf.

Skullcruncher has a bunch of rubber in the head, so he'd need an entirely new head, plus the cockpit. Weirdwolf has rubber teeth, and rubberin the cockpit hatch. While a new hatch is possible, replacing the head is way more complicated.

>>6486057
>His older character model even gave him side windows on his hips
Where? I don't see them.

>>6486646
Unscrew the gator legs and turn them around when in robot mode. Partsforming notwithstanding it really improves the stability of the robot mode.

>>6486664
What are some notable examples of rubber in older TFs rotting out? I don't think I've had any myself.

>>6486674
Depends a lot on your local weather, I live on a semidesertic area and my childhood Metroplex still has its original wheels.

>>6486677
I suppose desert climate would tend to rot that shit quicker. I'm in the northern midwest and my childhood Kup still has his rubber wheels too.

>>6486674
It varies by figure and region. My RID Optimus lost his wheels ages almost a year after the show, on the other hand, my Primus still has his spikes, WFC Megatron still has his knee spikes, T30 Rhinox, ROTF Bludgeon, etc...

>>6486621
Because figures like Universe Ironhide, Galvatron, and Dinobot are totally not half-assed.

>>6486682
Forgot, my Alternator tracks still has his wheels intact. The reason people are worried for the new figures with rubber is due to the fact that their rubber bits feel too mushy/soft.

>>6486687
Ironhide and Galvatron were over engineered, they pretty much feel like experiments for the movie line, also Galvatron was undersized from voyager class sucking even more.

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>>6486667
This looks and works really nicely!

A kit to put the leg on a little arm and let you turn it around without having to pop the whole leg off is something nonnef should make, that would be great for this toy.

>>6486687
Dinobot is pretty good except for the weapons and that spring on the dino neck panel. The deco was bad but Takara fixed it. Galvatron could've been good in its original unaltered Voyager design and Ironhide was just overcomplicated with a bad neck and a paint mistake. None of these were really half-assed.

>>6486687
Dinobot was and still is a pretty solid figure, Ironhide and Galvatron were filled with issues but both of them were brilliantly elevated in their Henkei versions. Either way, your "there were some bad figures here and there, therefore pre-CW CHUG is definitely worse than the hollow unpainted stuff we have today" logic is completely senseless.

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>>6486687
>literally can only mention figures from a single era (Universe) of CHUG
It's like you're not even trying to do proper PotP trilogy apologism, anon.

>>6486699
>A kit to put the leg on a little arm and let you turn it around without having to pop the whole leg off is something nonnef should make, that would be great for this toy.
The oversized KO did it but is not as good I was expecting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw4HRLX6nF0

>>6486706
>>6486722
>Dinobot
>good

So this is the power of nostalgia

>>6486767
It's a cool mold but there's literally no version of the mold that uses good plastic.
It's either gold plastic or transparent plastic on goddamn female balljoints.

>>6486772
It's not good. There are G1 toys with better knees, his lame arms don't look good in any pose with his dildo weapon, he looks emaciated, and his dino mode is a brick.

How long am I going to have to wait for the UK prices for Hasbro Trypticon to become reasonable?

>>6486767
>>6486772
>>6486779
Context my friends, we're talking about the Universe mold, not the 96 figure.

>>6486782
The 96 mold is a better toy.

>>6486782
The Universe mold is even worse.

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>4 more months

So is mp dinobot ever gonna be released, or even "officially" announced?

>>6486796
How many more months until the way more detailed and actually interesting repaints come out?

>>6486796
I want a side view of this little faggot.

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Cute

>>6486807
That's what the Movie Masterpiece line is for.

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>>6486796
>yellow paint: the scratching
Who allowed this shit?

>>6486814
The alternative is translucent yellow plastic, like on Animated Bumblebee.

>>6486814
Maybe he's 120$ because they're finally using good paint?

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>>6486807
>implying painted on details actually works as well as actual sculpted details
He's DoA, just accept it and move on. I'm also trying my best at coping with the grief.

>>6486822
>being a greeblefag

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>>6486826
>being a plainfag

>>6486826
>>6486835
Doesn't matter how bad your taste is, folded panels like Sunstreaker's look disgusting as fuck

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>>6486605
>Bayformers
>dominating the franchise

Maybe 6 years ago.

The movie lines have been pretty much dead since RTS.

>>6486699
Someone on Shapeways already made parts for that

https://www.shapeways.com/product/MLH3ZD4UG/tr-crocjoint-for-reptiles-v1-2?optionId=62059175

>>6486807
I just want SS and his red Diaclone repaint with a toy face.

Then the KO companies make red, black, and white for headmaster Sunstreaker army building.

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Despite the fun police, Combiner Wars got me back into collecting.

New bread:

>>6486853
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>>6486853
>>6486853
>>6486853

>>6486850
Man, I wish Hasbro did an updated re-release of the Universe Sunstreaker that can also work as a Headmster. Removing the pop up Head gimmick would allow for cockpit space, and they could give him a special Headmaster with special arms to imitate his ears.

>>6486154
I drowned mine in Pledge, much better!

>>6486767
I watched Beast Wars for the first time right before Universe Dinobot came out, so try again.

>>6486814
He's a fucking car, of course his paint will be scratched if you don't take care of him. Fuck off.