Transformers general : Army builder edition

>>5983234

Not many are really that generic outside of repaints that are only sorta-kinda-maybe whoever they're repainted into.

>>5983234
Literally anything as long as you have enough cash for it., but dudes with visors, and face plates work better.

I army build Hasbro Hardheads, and they're lead by a Takara Hardhead.

>>5983234
Do classic seekers count? I keep getting them whenever I found them loose, also got a Rook squad for Skylynx/BC Prime.

>>5983234
I really want to like Gnaw, but those weird arms, and the clear shell for the beast mode are making this (mostly he shell since the chances of paint chip would be pretty high).

>>5983246
That'd be an easy fix for a 3P to do. If anyone cared for it enough.

>>5983234
Personally, I'm fond of using the various mini-cons as my rank-and-file soldiers.
Action Masters, Targetmasters, Titan Masters, or just regular ol' Mini-Cons all fill the "Private" rank for me pretty satisfactorily, since most other Transformers tend to be either members of the officer class, high-ranking scientists or otherwise experts in their field.

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>>5983244
I think they work personally in any size class and range

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pls no more seeker MP

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>>5983291
anon some of us are waiting on mp dirge, then that's it, we're done.

Who else are they gonna make aside from hasbro redeco's?

Anybody got any recommendations for MPs? The new Megatron renewed my interest in the line. I've got Optimus, Prowl, Smokescreen, Sideswipe, Bumblebee and Thundercracker.

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Found it weird that for a movie that had so many new Autobots, a lot of them never got any actual mass releases, and that includes Soundwave and Brains.

>>5983303
Seekers, Starsaber and of course, Ultra Fatmus.

>>5983312
DoTM was doing pretty badly in toy sales.

>>5983318
AoE probably did worse.

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>>5983312
Brains was a shit Brainstorm anyway.

>>5983320
Not that he's shit, it's that in ROTF both Wheelie and a minicon toaster got toys. It's just weird of them to showcase a lot of the characters and then just release a couple of non-appearing in the first wave.

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>>5983321
They probably had an idea for the toy that there was no time for. Just like how the Animated Constructicons never got toys because they were supposed to combine into Devastator in Season 4.

My guess would be that Brains was supposed to transform into a head, but they couldn't fit it into the movie so he got scrapped.

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>>5983336
Sucks for Animated. Would've loved to see that stylized Devy.

>>5983339


I love so much of the lore and story from animated. One of the best written TF shows in a while. The designs just.....eh.. Some were pretty good and work, but some were just too damn goofy.

>>5983361
Too bad they hammed in an aaron archer selfinsert and a power puff girl villain.
Those were shitty characters.

>>5983382
Still better than TFP

>>5983384
You know what? You're right.
The only thing good that came from TFP is that hilariously stupid Ladyboy Miko fapfic people used to post here.

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I like prime, who else like prime?

Prime likes prime...I'm sorry this is the reissue I bought back on release and only just unboxed it.

Nothing else compares to him, I just spent all day messing with 10 of my mp's and apart from delta magnus this guy was a unique experience

>>5983303

Wheeljack is best carbot.

>>5983303
the lambor mold, sideswipe, g2 sideswipe, any of the red alert variations, and tigertrack if you want a yellow Lamborghini right now

>>5983336
anon what are the name of these characters? I want to google more photos of them.

>>5983414
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Constructicon_(Animated)

Only good thing to come out of TFA was the toy line, at least prime had a decent toy line and a decent series.

Minus beast hunters of course.

>>5983424
Some BH remolds were nice. Most of them actually made the figures worse than they were originally, and almost all of them had gawdy colors... but SOME were improvements. I also rather liked the Sky Lynx one.

>>5983382
They where meant to be shitty. The human villains where there to be beaten so the Deceptions didn't lose in every episode.

>>5983428

Yeah, Decepticons were fucking beasts in animated. Remember when Starscream effortlessly beat the SHIT out of the entire autobot team all by himself ?

>>5983296
i would like them to eventually make a new mold for the seekers, like the did for mp-10 and now the new megatron.
how old even is the base seeker mold now? over 10?

>>5983431
MP03 came out in 2006.

Mp11 is 2012, and is, infact in line with the current mp direction, if we want a new seeker mold we best wait for optimus 3.0 which will set the new standard, and in which I'll quit this hobby right off the bat

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>>5983427
Look at that sweet retooled rear

Any Torontofags in the house, the Walmart on Islington has TR wave 2 deluxes for $20, just snagged the only Chromedome last night

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>>5983429
TFA really nail down the Decepticon=military class and Autobot=worker class theme

>>5983437
Ratchet was a nice one. I liked the actually painted vehicle mode, and the blades being molded onto the arms was an interesting touch. I wish the head sculpt was more recognizable as Ratchet though.

>>5983431
Forget MPs. I want new deluxe seekers. The RID one and the United Warriors ones are really our best options right now. The FOC one was pretty neat too but it was a cybertronian space fighter equipped with gatling guns rather than null rays.

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Collected quite a few vehicons I wish these guys were available.

>>5983442
>titan returns deluxe seekers

Wasn't there a rumor that we're getting seekers?

>>5983444
What game is this from?

>>5983448
Nope, especialy not after we got 2 different size classes worth of them.

>>5983449
The 2012 Prime game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJsPqkr32Sk

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>there isn't a perfect megatron
>only one that hits a few good boxes
>but not all of them

WHY DOES OPTIMUS HAVE A PERFECT FIGURE REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>5983471
>that one anon defending MP-01

jej i wanna see his face

>>5983473
That guy defending MP-01 was hilarious, fucking buyer's remorse all the way through.

>>5983437
Now no one will catch up to the ice-cream truck.

>>5983471
>>5983473
>being this mad that MP-01 has a head scaled better to the body

enjoy your Beetlejuice tiny head Prime.

Anyone find TR Brainstorm yet?

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>>5983511

>>5983511
oh boy here we go again

>>5983234
Are Junkions army builders?

Because I have like 3 Wreck-Gars

>>5983434
I doubt they'll ever do a new MP Optimus since there really isn't anything to improve on MP10

I do hope they do new seekers though because MP11 is a shit mold

>>5983525
err well, "never ever" is a pretty bold statement, but for the time being I really haven't been seeing any advances in engineering with these toys that could be applied to further improve on the Masterpiece Optimus design.

Except maybe better wrists and shoulders but that's not really worth making a new mold out of

>>5983511
I will never understand the meme that MP-10 has a tiny head. If anything, MP-01's head is too fucking big, and people are comparing it unfavorably because it's their only frame of reference.

>>5983525
>I do hope they do new seekers though because MP11 is a shit mold
I agree, but they seem committed to it at this point. I'm shocked that they're still retooling that mold into the coneheads 10 years later.

>>5983511
Oh hey it's you again. Still trying to cope with your buyer's remorse right?

>>5983531
Yeah. People should have complained harder about chests that don't stay together and no feet back when MP03 was the seeker mold. MP11 didn't even fix anything aside from adding heel spurs.

>>5983531
>I'm shocked that they're still retooling that mold into the coneheads 10 years later.

People wanted coneheads for ages, this is possibly their final retooling from takara.

What boggles my mind is they're all exclusives, repaints, fine especially obscure ones, but these are bullshit (they could of made skywarp and thundercracker regulars too but I don't know)

>>5983536
My thought to that would be made for looks only, the intended use of a mp is transform and display, not actually play with them because that's more a problem with constant use, its a nit pick, unlike generations blitzwing which is marketed as a toy, but that's my logic

>>5983540
I understand the intention of MPs, but 03/11, 05 and 09 get shat on so much for being terrible toys. Expensive or not people like to play with their figures

>>5983544
>mp03/11
Well this is a shared complaint, guess I'm the odd one out, though to be fair my hasbro thundercracker doesn't have this problem nor my acidstorm, YET ALL MY OTHER HASBRO FIGURES AND MY RAMJET DO WHAT THE FUCK

>mp05
On one hand not bad for 12 days design time, and its gun mode is beautiful, the rest is an abomination though
>mp09
Oh yeah, seriously it looks amazing but that's the point when they self destruct just standing there, is this poor design, poor factory qc, what the fuck is this shit they threw out and WHY did hasbro think it was a good to shit him out without the god damn trailer?

>>5983533
one sign of autism is that a person can't understand that some people like things that they don't like.

Another sign of autism is being a raging fuckhead over first world problems and non-issues.

>>5983550
Funny how you say that when both apply to you perfectly.

>>5983531
look at human proportions, you dumb shit. MP-10's head is no bigger than his hands.

>but muh 30 foot robot

Irrelevant. Hasbro's had a real bad habit of this for some time, such as the early series of 25th Joes with pinheads. For whatever reason they tend to not follow basic proportions, being a robot doens't matter because it still looks weird.

It's a miracle they aren't putting the shoulder joints in the middle of the chest like they did with Joes in the 90s

>CW leader Megatron

SHIT! They actually are still doing that!

>>5983554
You mean the Joes had overinflated heads. Only a rare few had heads that were the proper size, like Wild Bill.

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>>5983553
>waah I'm mad you called me out

Your tears are delicious, bitch. #fdt

>>5983554
>making comparisons to hasbro's work
>when talking about a toy designed by takara
You really know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about, right?

>>5983248
Then that would turn it into a $30 legends class figure.

>>5983557
Wew, careful not to cut yourself on that edge, laddy.

>>5983556
no, they were too small. Being this in denial is-

>arguing with Hasbro fans

Right, the same fuckholes that cry when you bring up Jem ripping off the name of an actual band, yet get mad at 3P "stealing" from Hasbro. Idiots who hate MLP but but the pony toys because "I gotsta give Hasbro muh paycheck or they might shut down". People who make Chris-chan look well-adjusted by comparison.

>>5983291
That looks like a 90s zord with those colors.

>>5983545
09 is might have been designed by a monkey

like seriously, look at the top 3 issues
>entire chest is held together by a fucking microscopic clear plastic tab
>painted spoiler slots into the trailer extremely tightly and cannot be inserted or removed without scrapping off streaks of paint
>the leg panels that fall out fall out because they're held in place by a screw that only goes like 1.5mm into the plastic, and the leg panels are meant to rotate on that screw

you don't even have to be a retard to realize that there are so horrible design decisions on him.

>>5983339

I kinda like the asymmetrical take on Devastator here.

>>5983558
>>5983561

cry moar, bitch. Not my fault you're inbred, have a double-digit IQ and get easily offended. Maybe if your parents had done a proper job raising you, but no doubt mommy really wanted those drinks when she was pregnant.

>>5983562
Ow the edge

The dedicated shitposter has returned.

>>5983558
Even more ironic that MP-1 is the only MP Hasbro had any input on, and it has "correct" head proportions.

>>5983567
Woah, so you cut your wrists every night using pure edge alone? No pencil sharpener? That's pretty impressive!

>>5983473
>>5983484
He reminded me of a irl friend I knew in college where the parents pulled the NEET life plug on him in 07 and he went dirt poor and magically all TFs before 2007 were awesome and perfect while everything new was awful and not as good but there be that one that would tempt him and he get so pissed off because he was too poor to buy others from the collection

>>5983567
is this your regular poster, /tfg/?

>>5983573
He's probably an anti-movie fag too, plenty of people have that mindset not just due to poorfaggotry but also due to not liking the aesthetic and feeling "betrayed" by Hasbro, a multi-billion dollar company that at the time was run by a fat fuck who was more concerned about forum drama than listening to fan requests in the toyline. It's two different flavors of the same autism.

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>>5983444

red Vehicon?

what's that from?

>>5983583
Looks like a custom to me.

Either that or it's some obscure Takara/TFCC repaint.

Hoi doi, report and ignore. Don't give into bait.

>>5983303

Starsaber, Hotrod.

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>>5983557
>being this unoriginal
Being a SJW must be suffering

>MP 01 poster is a SJW
Why does that not surprise me

>>5983471

Because Megatron's perfect figure is named Maketoys Despotron.

>>5983525
>since there really isn't anything to improve on MP10

Individually jointed fingers with ball joints to allow finger spreading. How this isn't standard on the bigger MP's (and individually jointed fingers ala MMC's Hexatron on the smaller) is a fucking travesty. It's sad that HasTak has fallen so far behind 3P's at times.

>>5983611
>stylized look only certain people would like
>slider for gun barrel leaves a massive gap in the gun mode
>unlike other 3p's his hands aren't fully articulated
>its 3p

It ain't perfect anon, its really good but its not "perfect"

>>5983471
Megatron is getting a perfect figure, it's called Masterpiece 36. It looks like it came straight out of the cartoon to bitchslap Starscream.

Unless you're some scummy IDWfag who wants him to have an Autobot symbol or something, this is as perfect as it gets. Feels good.

>>5983617
>slider for gun barrel leaves a massive gap in the gun mode

I think most people are willing to overlook a small gap up the barrel of one side of the gun that they won't even see because most people are right handed (and I'm not) when holding it in gun mode, for great proportions and transformation and a super clean end product in robot mode in terms of kibble.

Plus MP's themselves are stylized and not 100% cartoon accurate, so thats not even a complaint.

>>5983618
>Megatron is getting a perfect figure, it's called Masterpiece 36
The back while not as violent as dx9's mightron is still an eyesore, mp10's back only has chromed kibble to hinder it.

The gun mode panels are subjective, evidently mp10 is the definitive prime and no 3p, new or otherwise can match, megatron has a bunch of figures, official or otherwise that all carry great qualities, but not brings a jack of all trades look like prime did.

I have high preference for takara's megatron don't get me wrong, just saying the truth is he literally isn't an all rounder, and we can bring in the shit about the faction markings.

I swear to god they better print on the "clean" logo and give us stickers for options, stickers peel off over time so I want something there at least, not this blank space that you have options for and the old logo's are corny, what next, red decepticon symbols for a future mp skylynx?

>>5983618
>to have an Autobot symbol

what the fuck is this shit, is he not the bad guy. or it's that shatter glass side story

>>5983625
>red decepticon symbols for a future mp skylynx?

Luckily, Takara ignores anything animated by Koreans for the Masterpiece line.

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>>5983623
>small gap

You call this small?

I'm used to mp's being front on but when their alt mode has compromise its not a good thing.

>Plus MP's themselves are stylized and not 100% cartoon accurate, so thats not even a complaint
I'll give you this, because it's technically impossible to have accurate proportions on a physical toy based on an old badly animated cartoon that clearly kept the toy designs out of its design guides.

Takara's is still the winner but not without fault

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>>5983626
Its a storyarc, you know like that time spider-man had 6 arms or when superman died but not really or when bat-man got his back crushed but then was fine.

>>5983626
Maybe if you were familiar with the comics you wouldn't have to ask that.

>>5983625
I wouldn't even mind the shit animation logos if this wasn't a mid-line change

They're suddenly trying to implement cartoon logos on Decepticons and Autobots after over 30 figures of using clean designs and I don't know who's approving of this bullshit.

>>5983626
>>5983634

For idw's sake I actually hope they keep megatron as he is, so others can take center stage, its a shame they had optimus literally kill galvatron, I liked where he was going until optimus decided "fuck it, lets just kill this guy, no glory or honor I'll just decapitate him"

>>5983639
They're on a trend of trying too hard to match cartoon accuracy, past mp's tried to blend in g1 toy (the under face of ultra/delta magnus) with g1 animation (stylized direction), if they printed "clean" logos on as default with stickers as the option I'd be fine, but no we got shit like shockwave we he had nothing until you made a choice.

And mp red alert animation color edition was fucking bizarre, they killed most of his paint apps just for cartoon accuracy, with the biggest changes being the headlights being painted over and his shoulders being all black to better match his cartoon design rather than relying on his tiny shoulder tires

>>5983643
So far they´ve wasted Deathsaurus, I guess now Overlord and Galvs will be forgotten in favor of Sentinel and Scorponok to start the titanmaster war.

>>5983634
Spider-Man should have kept the 6 arms. Shit was cool.

>>5983633
>You call this small?

Yes, yes I do.

>>5983645
I don't mind the option but cartoon logos shouldn't be forced like they are on Megatron.

I can understand the reason why they didn't print logos on Shockwave (the ways his arms are designed they'd be printing over a seam in plastic), taking the opportunity to use stickers as an option for toy or show accuracy is a pretty decent decision given that he really has two distinct designs.

And MP Inferno, who's chest plate comes off also, has the option of a realistic car grill with clean logo, or cartoonish car grill with a cartoon logo, and that's perfectly fine. I don't know why the hell Megatron isn't coming with a clean logo chestplate either.

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>>5983643

Galvatron was pretty much an animal though. He needed to die.

>>5983650
>wasted Deathsaurus

He's still alive. Meaning they'll probably bring him back.

Bought my second tf fracture yesterday, he's great. I really want to get into Combiner Wars and TR but don't know the quality and I don't know if they can combine with each other no matter what

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>>5983666
Forgot pic

>>5983666
>I really want to get into Combiner Wars and TR but don't know the quality

They're both fine, generally speaking. All of the CW limbs work with all of the CW bodies. But ask about individual combiners to find their faults.

>>5983666
Well any TR head can fit on any other TR figure that has a headmaster.

And CW limb bot can fit on any CW torso.

The quality is fine. You'll have some hollow legs on CW figures and a couple of loose head holes on TR.

>>5983666
>I really want to get into Combiner Wars and TR but don't know the quality and I don't know if they can combine with each other no matter what

Can you rephrase this, it sounds like you want him to combine and judging the younger toy line made for a younger audience with an older crowd in terms of quality?

That said fracture is a nifty dude

>>5982748
I actually love how this guy looks, even if it's kind of a shitty toy. The arms may be a tad long if we're talking human proportions, but you can find people whose hands are almost at their knees. If we're looking for human proportions in our Transformers, then almost every single one has shins that are way too long and thighs that are too short.

>>5982921
Agreed, which makes it pretty stupid that I wouldn't just accept G1 Megatron as non-transforming figure that could look correct without compromises, but I still want it to transform into something, even if it looks kind of shitty.

>>5983043
I'd go with white trash "wiggers" too.

>>5983696
I think the white guy trying to be black thing makes more sense given that they are not black themselves, but taking on that culture. Although, we don't really see them pre-Earth to know if they picked that up or were coincidentally like that all along.

>>5983697
A movie comic showed how they were recruited by smokescreen by promising them cybermelons and fried robochicken.

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>>5983701

>>5983525
My major complaint would be the back of the truck. No reason it had to be that thick. The wheels could have rotated into the leg (a la ToyWorld's Orion) instead of sitting on the outside and covering them with panels. The rest of the truck is beautiful.

>>5983525
If it were any character other than Optimus, we'd probably never get a new one, but I would not be shocked if we get a new MP Optimus every 10 years or so. Although, maybe they would make other versions of Optimus rather than just the G1. Maybe a PMOP/Ginrai, etc.

>>5983718
> Although, maybe they would make other versions of Optimus rather than just the G1
Well, Optimus Primal

>>5983723
Fair enough, although Primal is happening more for the BW anniversary than as an excuse to make another Optimus, at least in my eyes.

>>5983718
I think another factor is they're going for very cartoon accurate figures now. The new Megatron doesn't mesh all that well with MP-10. I could see them redoing Prime for that reason, even though I think MP-10 looks great.

>>5983718
Other primes would just be to fill the lines and would not retroactively affect other toy designs like mp10 has done, apart from primal but he's more an offshoot (for now).

A power master optimus prime wouldn't give us a jazz newly scaled for him, a prime 3.0 would though.

>>5983729
Obsessing over accuracy is going to kill this line for me. I just want really good figures.

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>>5983738
The point of the mp's was accuracy, what I loved was how they actually blended g1 toy elements with cartoon accuracy, making them accurate to both portrayals (where's hasbro dialed up the deco changes up a wee bit high on the toy end).

This current trend is a worry, so far the engineering hasn't been heavily affected, and perhaps mp megatron 2.0 will surprise us all, there has to be a reason why the back is a big ass hole where's the 3p's were at least filled in.

I mean even mp05 had a better back apart from his spine going over the top of it

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So when can we expect Legends Rumble/Frenzy? Takara's Rewind was a major disappointment.

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Did...anyone else forget about lynx master coming?

I just want to see if they fixed up the ratchets

>>5983749
Once Hasui is done with the TF5 line, I assume he'll come back to MP and resume his usual style.
Overall, I still don't think the official line has diverged so much that I can't put MP-10 and MP Inferno on the same shelf.

>>5983754
>grey plastic not white
>not retooling the head to beter fit the red around the eyes
>changes to deco otherwise don't make it stand out over hasbro's

They dun fucked up

>>5983755
I had honestly thought it came out already.

I'm interested to see how Ratchet turned out.

>>5983754
Fuck, I tried to brush that hair behind Takara Rewind off my screen 3 times before I realized it was in the picture.

>>5983755
Kind of. I lost interest since he's too expensive for what he is. It's too bad since I really wanted Ratchet.

>>5983749
The toy I had been dreaming of is the cartoon made three dimensional.

Check mate, Hasui-san

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>tf yuki's account has been deleted

G-guess tf_pr is incharge now

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Which of the voyager evasion mode primes has the more accurate deco to match this?

Is it the tf advanced rusty prime or is it the movie mb version, or any others?

>>5983666
CW can feel cheap
TR have a good amount of QC issues

>>5983755

I've been waiting for him to come out. Are there any reviews of him up? I need to know if they fixed his fucking problems.

>>5983776
Movie MB seems to be the most accurate non-Weijiang version.

>>5983774
Don't pull my leg, I know it's still ther-

Oh fuck everything.

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>>5983755
Well the ratchets are fixed on Liokaiser. Same factories and molds.

>bitching about human proportions
>for ROBOTS

Why.

>>5983787
I was hoping I was retarded but its not there.

I-I'm actually missing the anime promotions he shared constantly ie pri-para, its adorable!

>>5983791
They seem to flail at random, look at pyra magna and g2 onslaught, yet UW hotspot was fine and so was UW onslaught (but his crew had other issues).

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>>5983796
Next the lack of eyes will be complained about, oh the lack of humanity!

>>5983801
Silly anon, all transformers have beautiful human faces. If they don't, we need to explain that.

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>>5983803

>>5983803
Except Shockwave

Shockwave a cute!

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>>5983643
>Prime decapitated Galvatron
Right, because there is totally NO way right now that they'd possibly want to bring him back, I mean what kind of robot would come back from decapitation? And even if they did, it'd be ridiculous because he doesn't have any toys or anything that's currently on shelves, especially with a removable head.

>>5983817
He can come back, but they toy would have nothing to do with it since his death via decapitation was done with no knowledge of his TR toy. They remembered the toy existed not too long after the comic was published, and regretted doing that.

>>5983796
>not being able to read
>on AN 18+ SITE

Underage.

>>5983774
>>5983787
Who is TF Yuki?

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>>5983822
>>5983817

But guys, he didn't kill him, he was just helping him get ready to become a headmaster.

>>5983830
You remember how we sometimes posted images of figures that Takara hadn't officially announced yet? He was the one that posted them a bit earlier to promote them.

>>5983749
Agree completely, Hasui's designs were fantastic and a great compromise of cartoon and toy. The later MPs are still nice, but I'm not as big a fan of the slavish cartoon accuracy.

>>5983832
I think someone pointed that out to Barber and he laughed because it was not intentional at all.

>>5983822
Yeah, but considering the Titans Return arc hasn't even started yet (Thanks to that wonderful Revolutions crossover that everyone is loving for sure) he could easily come back when that starts.

Though that still baffles me, what the hell is wrong with IDW that they had to push out this crappy crossover that is doing horribly, before actual plot stuff? Did someone have that hard a boner for ROM?

>They remembered the toy existed not too long after the comic was published, and regretted doing that.
Source for that?

>>5983832
He literally just grabbed his head with one hand and ripped it off?

>>5983846
https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/540ch7/we_are_john_barber_cullen_bunn_fico_ossio_chris/d7xwgzo/

>>5983847
He shot him point blank, so his head was barely attached by that point.

>>5983847
He'd blown a hole through his chest first.

>>5983853
Thanks.

>>5983846
Technically the Titans arc is nearly over. MTMTE and exRID already had their issues, and all is left is the 2 TAAO issues which will be post-Revolution.

I do really agree on the point about forcing TR and Revolution are nearly the same time. I completely get why Hasbro wants TR done now, that makes sense - but why force your universe-changing event basically on top of it. It was really annoying in the books when you basically had one of the issues of exRID TR be half setup for Revolution. It's like the most parts of the MCU movies where its too much setup for the next thing and they don't let the current thing stand on it's own feet and have room to breathe.

>>5983846
The crossovers not perfect, but Rom's been pretty great so far.

>>5983865
Revolution seems fine, but dumping it right on top of (and in some cases, within) Titans Return is nuts.

>>5983803
Youre that faggot that wont ever quit bitching about empurata like a triggered tumblrina arent you.

>>5983834
Oh that sucks then.

>>5983774
Goddamn Japanese corporate culture.

>>5983861
I thought that what we got in MTMTE and exRID was just the "prequel" for the actual event which is yet to come. I mean, it did feel really quick and I'm still confused as to what the point of that was.

I know a lot of people are talking about MP Megs, but what are the odds that TR Megs will be better than Leader CW Megs?

>>5983886
Depends on what you're looking for in a Megatron. Personally I think the leader will be better, because the mold was made for him, as opposed to TR Megatron, which is Blitzwing.

>>5983701
Is, is that canon? Because if so, my sides are halfway to Alpha Centauri.

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>>5983886

I think TR Megs will probably be a decent to good Voyager Megs, and the CW Leader was a good Leader Megs.

Both can be good, theres no exclusivity on how good something can be. Depends on what size you're looking for.

Personally though I went with Despotron as my Leader/MP Megs.

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>>5983922

I do own CW Leader Megs though. I like him. But I bought him long before Despotron was a thing.

Went looking for Brainstorms today

The three Walgreens within reach don't have him. In fact, none of their TF stock has moved in the last two months.

What does Brainstorm go for online now? I got mine ages ago.

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I've been tempted by the blues bros. Now I can justify it.

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This looks so good jesus fuuuuuuuck

it blows the third party ones out of the fucking water. And I was actually considering Despotron before.

>>5983523
No, you're meant to buy multiples so they can ride each other.

>>5984014

It's weird, I think it looks great and is definitely a better looking figure overall than any of the 3rd party ones but I also think it doesn't pair with MP-10 very well?

Aesthetically it's like super animation-based and MP-10 is a little less so, and with MP-10 being all decked out in chrome it seems really out of place to have a grey Megatron instead of silver.

It's really great as a standalone Megatron figure but I feel like it just looks weird next to Optimus. Despotron probably looks like the best fit aesthetically to actually pair with MP-10.

But whatever, I'm just musing honestly I don't even have an MP-10, it just seems like you'd expect them to design a Megatron to specifically go with it.

>>5983855
>>5983856
Damn. IDW Prime is way more bad ass than cartoon Prime.

>>5984046
>But whatever, I'm just musing honestly I don't even have an MP-10, it just seems like you'd expect them to design a Megatron to specifically go with it.
That's why I could see them doing another Prime in the next couple of years.

>>5983774
It's like Orson's World, but worse because Yuki was actually cool.

>>5983997
I'm left wondering why Blurr and Scourge are so plentiful in stores. No seriously, no matter what store I visit, I'm guaranteed to find them at least.

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>tfw there will never be a line of licensed Transformers that turn into specific cars from movies and TV
>Kup will never be one of those electric cars from Jurassic Park with a dinged-up roof
>no Ghostbusters Ratchet
>Herbie Bumblebee
>Hot Rod becomes the Dodge from Smokey and the Bandit
>they finally make a new Swindler toy
>he's the goddamn DeLorean he was born to be

>>5984068
Because they are the ugliest of the deluxes.

>>5984072
Wheeljack would be the delorean and you know it.

>>5984077
He's got the popularity and guaranteed sales for sure, but Swindler's only toy is an actual (non-time travelling) DeLorean, and I'd love to see it updated.

I guess they could also go with Brainstorm for something out of left-field that pays lip-service to the current fiction.

Either way I want that time machine.

>>5984072
In what world are those things culturally relevant enough to not just start off on clearance?

>>5984090
In a world where collectors scalp hundreds of robots from a cartoon from 1984 and sell them online for triple the RRP.

It'd be a line for the collectors, obviously.

>>5984068
Because everyone realized the Takara versions are vastly superior and the Hasbro ones look like unfinished prototypes

>>5984087
I'm dumb. I was thinking swindle.

>>5984046
No, I agree with you. It seems as if MP-10 is the definitive G1 Optimus Prime, whereas this new Megatron is cartoon accurate as fuck, as opposed to a definitive G1 Megatron. As a result, it doesn't quite fit with MP-10.

Really hope that Decepticon logo is a sticker though, like Shockwave. I would rather have a regular Decepticon logo like the rest of my Masterpiece figures, as opposed to the cartoon accurate error.

>>5984105
Probably why he never got another toy, to be honest. The names are way, way too similar.

>>5984087
i guess brainstorm could be an xwing

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>>5984113
>mfw

>>5983797
Actually a lot of us still got UW Onslaughts with that issue which was strange because we saw fewer reports of any with UW hotspot

>>5984106
Why is the former the definitive but not the latter?

>>5984132
I looks like MP-10 is the be-all end-all of Prime figures, where as MP-36 is the definitive animation representation, but I wasn't looking for literally a figure of the animation model.

What I mean is Megatron looks like he just stepped out of the cartoon, whereas Prime looks like the definitive figure of his character.

Some people may want things to be cartoon accurate as fuck. But I'm not really interested in that.

>>5984014
>waist rotation
Sold.

>>5984137
This is retarded. They are toys

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>>5984068

Probably because they're so blue.

>>5984139
He looks like he has a pretty intense ab crunch also

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>>5984144
>"Why do you like one but not the other"
>"In a nutshell I don't like that Megatron is strictly cartoon accurate"
>"That's retarded they're toys."
...What?

>>5984068
"Kids don't like blue."
- John Warden

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>>5984147
I'm in love with the fact that his gun stock is a display stand for him.

I hope he's not too much.

>>5984157
I imagine he's going to be something around 150$, unless they figured loading hi up with accessories is a good excuse to sell him at like 200

>>5984137
They need to split the MP line into to separate lines:

Masterpiece as it is/used to be, which is definitive representations of the characters, and a cartoon autismo line with toys that look like they were poorly animated by korean children.

>>5984014
>it blows the third party ones out of the fucking water
>this is what takaracucks actually believe
Wew lad

>>5984178
The bootlegs will never ever have a deception symbol on the chest, making them all defective

>>5984180
But the Masterpiece doesn't even have the correct Decepticon symbol.

>>5983896
>>5983922
>>5983927
Ugh, I just don't want leader/mp scale. Why can't we get a true voyager Megs already?

>>5984195
Hasbro hates toy guns, deluxe gunmegs is the only gunmegs you'll ever get.

>>5984196
legends gunmegs, fuck

>>5984170

I have a better idea.

You take what you're given and be damn grateful you're getting anything at all.

>>5983634

Yes, Megatron has to be the same in every continuity.

>>5984182
It's based off the cartoon so its the cartoon symbol

>>5983291

No one's forcing you to buy them, chucklefuck.

>>5983303

Rodimus.

And try to find a GDO Wheelie to go with him. The scale is perfect

>>5984202
Casual TF fan here. What exactly is the difference between the decepticon logos? Anyone got a side by side comparison pic? The one in the scans looks fine to me.

>>5983755
TR is in full swing and we have seen evidence of all of next years Transfomers and none of them are CW related
Takara will milk what they can with repaints but with the lack of anything new CW and TR in full swing most don't care
Basically the hype is over

>>5984214
It isn't even worth making a comparison picture.

The standard "clean" logo is more angular and the cartoon "sloppy" logo is squat and square-like.

People are unhappy with this because up until now the MP line has been using clean transformers logos, but lately they've been adopting the cartoon logos and we're getting inconsistent design directions for figures that are meant to be a part of the same line.

They also do it with the autobot logo on MP Inferno, presenting both as options, but the differences between a clean and sloppy autobot logo are much less distinct.

>People still thinking that takara will use their own budget to make two new molds that make a torso for liokaiser.

Delusion is fucking real.

>>5984195

Well, theres the TR one upcoming. And a likely Voyager sized 3P MMC IDW-ized Megs was announced.

>>5983471
I imagine G1 Megatron is hard to design an accurate toy around because he transforms into one of the most irregularly shaped alt-modes ever adopted. Unlike most vehicles, which have a good amount of surface area and symmetry to them, a handheld pistol retains very little mass to shift around. This presents a challenge to keep both modes as accurate as possible to the animation model.

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So I saw some comments in a previous thread that Cybertron is a really underrated toyline. I have Longrack and Cannonball from that line and I think both of them are great, but what are some other hidden gems from Cybertron?

>>5984047
He's kinda found himself lately. He's been a bit of an indecisive, ineffectual nearly-emo kinda guy for a lot of the IDW run. It doesn't hurt that Windblade's planet see him as a literal living demi-god, so he's gotten a boost of confidence (and a few followers) from that.

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>Starscream sets it up so prime will get crucified on TV
>Prime raises a fucking Metrotitan in response

IDW Prime is so good now.

>>5984244
The not-so-hidden gem of the line is Optimus. He's just a fantastic super-robot-styled guy.

I really like (Dark) Crumplezone and Ransack, partly for their characters, partly for being cool future vehicles. I really like the Megatron design, but I'm willing to admit that the electronics give him a terrible lump of back kibble. The Galvatron redeco is some of the nicest paint ever done.

Your mileage will vary, but I also love the three Giant Planet dudes. Yes, their alt modes are not "standard" (other than Quickmix, I guess) but they're great in my book.

Honestly, the line as a whole is pretty great. You get a nice variety of alt modes, and most of the key gimmicks are not too bad. The smaller toys suffer more for it, but they're alright too.

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>>5984244
Scourge and Menasor are pretty good.
In japan Menasor is a mech suit and the truck minicon drives him in the chest cavity

>>5983544
>Expensive or not people like to play with their figures

Well then, if they break them by doing more than display, the fault is theirs and theirs alone.

I feel no sympathy. HasTak didn't have to make them at all.

>>5984274
>In japan Menasor is a mech suit and the truck minicon drives him in the chest cavity
I thought he was one of the ones not released in Japan?

>>5984283
Moledive (his name in Japan) was ehobby exclusive.

>>5983569

His assessment is pretty spot-on, though.

>>5983578

Pretty much, yes.

>>5983625
>what next, red decepticon symbols for a future mp skylynx?

I doubt that. But what I don't doubt is that transfags would find something else to whine over.

You people (And I use the term loosely) can't ever be happy about a single goddamn thing.

>>5983652
Touche'

>>5984283
Hobby exclusive and he is referring to how the tv show went over there
It was very different then the us dub

>>5983855
>>5983856
Truly the better headshot

>>5984014
AND HE'S THE PERFECT HEIGHT

>>5983618

>>who wants him to have an Autobot symbol or something

Easily fixed with a Reprolabel.

>>5983817

This.

I'm sure he'll come back as a Titanmaster

>>5983853

>>Andrew really liked Cosmos. I mean, I did, too, and he just seemed like an interesting guy—stuck out of the way because of his job and his utterly un-disguise alt-mode.

This guy IS aware that disguise is not the only reason that Transformers have alt-modes, right? Is he not aware that alt-modes can be for combat or personal transport as well?

>>5984298
I'm usually one of the first people to go "shut the fuck up do you really have to complain about every single thing", but the decision to change to what is literally a poorer version of the logos they've been using for the past 15 years and creating an inconsistency in design between figures that are meant to go together to appease to an insignificant minority who prefers those logos is a perfectly reasonable thing to be unhappy about.

>>5983865

At least the core premise, ROM vs Dire Wraiths is still maintained.

MASK, with it's teenagers with attitude and Muh Diversity Matt Trakker and Miles Manheim is really, REALLY shitty

>>5983916
>my sides are halfway to Alpha Centauri.

Why would they be there?

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>>5984014
glad someone posted one of the translated pages

>>5984315
I can't speak for everyone, but my favourite alt mods have always been the ones that actually look like an earth vehicle (at least for the 1984 Transformers). The idea that there could be a secret war being waged between alien robots that could easily be diguised as that old station wagon parked on the street corner and nobody would ever know, REALLY appealed to me as a kid.

I'm a bit more flexible with the post-movie bots, but that core group will always have recognizably Earth alt-modes for me. It's the one thing I love about the Bay movies. The robot modes are a bit iffy, but they really nail the alt-modes.

>>5984274

If anything he's actually sort of a Pretender

>>5984317

And that can EASILY be remedied with Reprolabels. So no, it's not something to be unhappy about

>>5984335
In practice, yeah, but having a 3rd party as backup to remedy fuckups on an official product does not justify creating artificial issues on said product.

Why even bother getting MP36 if I'm going to have to get reprolabels to be happy with it when I could just get Despotron or whatever, probably for cheaper to boot, and also need to get repolabels for it.

>>5984347
Because turd party figures always look like ass

>>5984379
subjective, I'm saying this as a geewunner and even I can value what some 3p's bring, not all of course.

>>5984379
MP36 is hardly a looker either, anon.

>>5984390
Like a big chested looker he has a nice rack and curves.

But when you look at that literal no ass you wonder what you were really looking at

Despotron would be perfect if his legs weren't so boxy.

>>5984401
or have those tiny holes, and the slide gap in his gun barrel

>>5984408
I definitely see whats to dislike about that, but really it's just the boxy legs that spoil him for me

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>>5984255
>>5984270
I just like that Optimus is finally less of a boy scout leader trying to find out what it means to be a Prime for the umphteen time. It's almost basically why I sorta like angry murderous Bay Prime.

>>5984159

Fucking Inferno of all things is 140 bucks. This will definitely be 200.

>>5984434
What a qt.

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>>5984327

I just found were Megatron's head is placed in gun mode. You can actually see the back of it.

>>5984137
So you're saying Megatron is the definitive toy for Megatron, but Prime's toy isn't the definitive toy for him.

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>>5983832
>>5983855
After thousands of years he's finally pissed enough to kill someone for it.

>>5984447
I'm suddenly imagining a headmasters gimmick where the gun shoots heads instead.

>>5984440
Well Inferno's a big guy

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>>5984460
I wonder how popular fire truck toys were back then.

>>5984460
I keep forgetting he's as big as Prime

I always want to think he's Ironhide-sized

>>5984047
IDW Prime has (or at least had) been in this Shinji Ikari tier "WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE THE POWER OF A GOD" except since IDW can't run a proper plot arc if their lives depended on it, it ends up being very vague and ineffectual. And ever since the final part of RID (All Hail Optimus) he's had a very vaguely worded conclusion to this moral dilemma and now he can go around freely killing everyone and everything with Soundwave or whatever.

>>5984274

Jesus, what a piece of shit transformation.

>Menasor is a mech suit and the truck minicon drives him in the chest cavity

...oh. I guess that's okay, then. Not entirely sure why it needs to "transform" at all, but whatever.

>>5984454
Even now, this still feels so wrong.

Note that Optimus killing Galvatron wasn't seen as a good thing by Soundwave, or Arcee. The fact that Galvatron surrendered made things worse.

>>5984518
The music even makes it looks like Optimus fucking snapped.

>>5984522
He basically did.

>>5984274
I have him in storage. I might dig around this weekend and find him and take some pictures for here

>>5984522
>music
in comics?

>>5984540
In the scene in the webm

>>5984541
The music before he says "TIME TO FIND OUT" definitely made the scene one of the best.

It was the faceplate clang that made it looked like he snapped. He just had enough of these backstabbing bastards.

>>5984553
Man, say what you want about the plot but DOTM had some crazy ass fight scenes and the music to go with it. The only fight scenes I didn't like were the ones involving Shockwave, solely because he was underused to all hell.

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>>5984565
Plot was pretty much straightforward which was why it's my favorite of the bayformers, problem was the pacing when it came to the unneeded extra Sam romance subplot. Shockwave was definitely underused. He was like Devastator and Brawl, all big guys who gets the shaft. Could've used a better hue of purple too.

Well at least his toy was alright.

>>5984472
Are there any size comparison pics?

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>>5984580
best one I can find where he's next to another mp here.

It's a pain in the ass to find pictures for this guy, half the images I find are of the KO that looks almost the same

>>5984597
3P, not KO, fuck.

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Saw some weird shit at TFCon. I think these were defective in some way, like they were missing a certain part (or maybe a mismatched HFG for one member).

>>5984601
What's the difference?

>>5984605
What a terrible way to store expensive limited run toys.

>>5984605
>funpub shite
>that's defective on top of being ugly cancer
>being sold at scalper tier prices
Ask the guy selling them if he browses the Allspark. 100% chance he will say yes.

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>>5984605
>$175
>for that shit

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>>5984615
Weren't sites trying to sell them for $500 or something?

>>5984619

It was one of the most overpriced, least desirable, pieces of shit ever produced. Even $175 is too much. Shit, $50 is too much.

>>5984605
>funpub shit
>175 each

someone please spit on that box

>>5984619
Why would anyone pay $200 for an ugly motherfucker like that?

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>>5984606
well, a 3P is an independently designed toy "inspired" by an official character
a KO is just an official product being produced and sold without official authorisation

>>5984611
My thoughts exactly, whoever's selling those is a retard.
If I were interested in one I'd spend like half an hour at his booth meticulously inspecting them for missing bits and damage because I'd sure as fuck expect it if I saw them stored like that.
And if he wouldn't let me then he's out of a sale.

>>5984619
Okay now I'm starting to think this guy broke into someone's storage and chucked everything in boxes and headed off to a con to sell it all.

>>5984619
fucking 40 that's just robery

>>5984619
If there was a loose Tarantulas I'd buy it for that probably. None of the others.

>>5984629
Technically in the eyes of the law KO companies are also 3P companies, where 3P refers to unlicensed companies using preexisting IPs.

>>5984637
In business terms, you're right, but when talking about the products themselves they're just about always referred to as either KOs or 3Ps to differentiate them

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>>5984645
Basically for collectors, 3P sells characters that don't belong to them but with their own original transformation engineering. KO sells characters that don't belong to them using the same mold and transformation engineering, usually with a couple of extra accessories at the cost of cheap plastic.

Then there's the 3PKO's where they enhance the molds they have while using better quality shit. Hopefully the Jiang companies would inspire more.

>>5984672
fuck me, that wei jiang hound is out???
how much is it?

>>5984713
It's out but it got recalled due to some QC issues.

[spoilersontoylol]The toes actually transforms into wheels[/spoilersontoylol]

>>5984720
what are the issues with it?

I definitely want that guy

>>5984724
I think the reports were that some of the smaller parts by the shoulder locks broke off easily.

>>5984720
huh, so they're fixing it before releasing again right?
cause i'll wait if they do, it looks fucking awesome

>>5984720
Recalling and improving a toy in the same run? A KO company is better than KFC.

>>5984735
They're currently releasing Black Evasion soon. They're gonna milk that Optimus like Hasbro did.

On the side note, they're also doing DOTM Megatron.

>>5984736
Nearly any company you can think of is better than KFC.

>>5984274
What? No, that's wrong.

I'm starting to see monkey prime show up on amazon and ebay

Hopefully he starts coming in on shops that don't sell this shit at horrible prices this week

>>5984757
Whenever people hear mention monkey prime the first thing that always comes to my head is that weird ass year of the monkey optimus primal

>>5983234
Not sure it counts, but I got Autotrooper heads off Shapeways and now have a squad made from four CW Prowls and two Rooks.

>>5984390

It's fine. You're just being a whiny bitch.

They keep giving you gun Megatrons and every time you gotta find some truly STUPID bullshit to cry over.

They should cut their losses and just stop trying to please you people altogether. Because they literally can't win for losing with you. They don;t give you what you ask for, you cry. They give you what you want, you still cry


Just shut up already

>>5984442

Just spell "cutie" out completely. It's not that big a word. You aren't saving any real amount of time or effort. You just look illiterate.

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>>5984619
Trying? Yes, but it's going to be interesting how much value they keep with Pub dead their OC shit will by majority drop in price (it'll still be pricy thought since they overcharged this shit anyway) and the fact that TR is in full swing and CW is starting to suffer what happens every time a new line starts which is to be look at poorly I wager these guys will fight to stay at the convention price. More so because they went with that stupid Beast Wars/Combiner Wars themed garbage so it basically clashes with either collection for different reasons

>>5984842
Oh, I'm sorry. I meant qt3.14.

>>5984510

Because if it didn't faggots will start that bullshit about "Transformers that dont Transform"

>>5984846

The point
Your head.

>>5984853
Me telling you I don't care
Your head

So any customisers turning TR Scourge into combiner limbs, if possible?

>>5984865
No. Why the flying fuck would you want that?

>>5984866
So CW Cyclonus can combine with his armada.

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>>5984865
That is not reasonably possible for how much reengineering of the torso that would demand just for the combiner peg, nevermind the peg for the hand/foot.

>>5984866
>Why the flying fuck would you want that?
I'm guessing Galvatronus

>>5984867
>>5984870
That's retarded and will likely result in Allspark tier customs.

>>5984843
I really like Combiner Wars
I was buying UW and CWs without question, I have two sets of most CWs, I was pumped as hell for Botcon and what CWs we see
and then this shit happen, and I lost all interest in the convention, I lost all interest in even trying to get the toys.
And then, How do you fuck up this bad? All red? Navy Blue and black limbs on all candy apple red?
It's like they wanted their last convention to end on a whimper.

>>5984882
I've bought all 4 of the special team combiners and would have bought Victorion if Pyra Magna didn't have the knee issues. I'd probably also get Grand Galvatron if I had spare cash.

But this? It's bad even by Funpub standards. It's so amazingly shit that even fucking Walky, who sucks Funpub's dick all day everyday, criticized it.

Good riddance.

>>5984882
Plus all the "THEY ARE NOT RED IT'S JUST RED LIGHTING" controversy

>>5984889
What controversy? I wasn't around at the time so educate a newfriend.

>>5984891
The three dudes get one scene in Beast Wars and there was discussion on if they were red themselves (which is what Funpub went with) or if they were just under heavy red lights.

Either way, those were cheap rushed models for one scene that didn't resemble their toys at all, so I personally would have been fine with toy colors (and toy headsculpts too even).

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>>5984891
Three of the members are based on this one scene in Beast Wars. There were people arguing on whether they were truly red or was it red lighting from the red glowing things in front of them

>>5984896
The animators said it was the light, didn't they?
They'd know.

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Modern Soundwave when?

Its seems he's always either an 80s boombox, a spaceship or a car (futuristic or otherwise). Just gimme a plain old microcassette recorder, dammit.

>>5984876
>>5984870
not the first anon, but I can imagine it would be easy to reshell a current combiner wars figure with the kibble from scourge.

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Hey, turns out this toy now has images floating online.

Guess he's really a voyager, since the colors look too shitty for a leader.

>>5984865
Way too hard. At that point, you'd be better off making a brand new figure.

Got my 30th anniversary Waspinator in the mail today (had a bit of a crisis of faith and stopped collecting Transformers for about a decade, so I missed him when he was in stores), and I'm trying to figure out ways to pose him.

I thought of using an old Figma stand I had lying around, but those plug into specific sockets so it doesn't really work too well.

What's a good, sturdy (and cheap) stand I can get to pose my little guy in midair?

>>5984954
That looks like a half-finished prototype to me.

>>5984954
Looks like the FE mold only retooled slightly.

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>>5984980
You clearly don't remember what the FE mold looks like then.

>>5984982
Thought it was due to the smokestack size, legs and arms.

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>>5984954
Funny that Autobots with the least car kibble got the most in major transformation shots.

>>5985004
Oh man, that transformation is absolute gibberish. Looks like we're never getting a ROTF Leader Prime equivalent for this guy.

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>>5985007
I remember looking for Stopmotions about this particular scene.

It was just such a fine piece of engineering.

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Dropping truth like bombs on this reseller scumbag

>>5985018
go away, onslaughttitude

>>5985018
You're more generous than me. I would've said $20.01

>>5985015
Fuck man, them camera angles on that drop.

And yeah, ROTF Prime is a Masterpiece tier figure in a fucking mainline series. I wanted to get the 2015 APS version but apparently that had serious mold degradation so I'm sticking to my Jetwing version.

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>>5985023
Asia Premium's too expensive for me but the extra weapons, oh man.

Would've settled for the UFO trailer too but it just looks so...empty without any weapons to put in it.

>>5983709
Fuck anyone who doesn't want wheels on Prime's legs. That shit was stupid in the cartoon and it's stupid now. I hate how Floro Dery just chopped off every wheel in the animation models and now the fucking MPs feel the need to emulate that when no other TF in 30 years has tried to

>>5985004
Man, I bet the designers don't even know how he transforms.

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>>5985033
They couldn't even fit his whole body in the flatnose. Funny thing is that his Voyager managed to be twice as tall, being a bit accurate despite the false window bra