Old thread >>5389525
The hits just keep on coming - Yuki just teased Unite Warriors Bruticus.
Sitchin' and bitchn' begin.
>vortex even has four rotor blades
SAY IT FUCKING WITH ME
TAKARA WINS AGAIN
YOU CAN'T EVEN ARGUE, IT'S A FUCKING FACT
>Yuki just teased Unite Warriors Bruticus.
Blast Off having the right alt mode was a given, but I wasn't expecting them to retool Vortex as well. That's pretty neat. Gives me high hopes for Computron not just having Superion's head and chest
And Takara's finally releasing the Skids mold in the Legends line.
Re: Liokaiser, the Deszaras/Leozak/Jargua hybrid kind of sucks but fuck it if I'm not buying that shit as soon as any pre-order anywhere goes up. Not going to bother trying to find him in stores
I'm glad you guys are getting your shuttle.
I was the guy who didn't want to get his hopes ups and everyone had an issue with it. Sorry you had a problem with me for no reason, but I'm glad it worked out.
The question is, how will they do Blast Off's visor?
I will be more surprised if people in this thread actually were surprised about that Computron coming out when we kept telling people that it was coming out and we already mentioned what the remolds were and now pictures are starting to surface to prove it. We saw it but not a lot of us actually got to save them and leak them you know.
>its ugly, garish purple and brown
it's just Blast Off's colors man, no big deal
This is a good point. Takara always goes for toon accuracy, but Blast Off's cartoon face is fuckin weird. I'd much rather they color his actual eyes.
The sketch Yuki posted earlier -while not colored- did kinda accentuate the eyes
To those who have the PE upgrade kit and a combiner that desperately needs a big gun. The MP-01 rifle fits great in it's grip. The fingers are even in the proper position so the index finger is against the trigger. No trigger discipline though.
Reminder to always post in the old thread to let people know that you've made a new one.
I own all of the hasbro limbs of bruticus but no onslaught, no local shops have him, an ebay seller I follow ran out and now my only chance is a pre-order which is the wave skylynx hits.
What are the chances its the green chest version?
Can I get some of the money back if I just sell vortex and brawl?
I plan to keep swindle and jet blast off for an original combiner
OP literally stopped me in the middle of getting Hasbro's Bruticus.
If I didn't see his thread on the bus, I would have got Bruticus already and loss out on the 4 rotors and shuttle.
>mp rattrap the size of an actual large rat
I just want these animals to be well articulated. Its all I ask for.
Rattrap is my favorite, but I doubt he'll get an mp. I'll be completely happy with just primal and megatron with great articulation in both modes.
Basically yeah, machines have panel lines to help the transforming bits blend in, but with furry little critters it never quite blends as well. Transmetals maybe, but I doubt they'll get that far (and holy god I hated Primal's first Transmetal design)
I mean yeah the accuracy goes without saying even though the animal modes could be a bit goofy at times. I'm just hoping primal isn't in the $100 range. I feel like he will be just because he's the leader. If he's the same size as MP 10 (not accurate or course) then rhinox and Dinobot will probably be huge.
>I hated Primal's first Transmetal design
>his TM1 mode felt like that uncle that has a bad haircut for a while and didn't realize it.
So I'm not the only one after all!
Easily one of the least cool Optimus Designs ever. I think only Beast Machines Prime is dorkier than his TM1 body
Thank fuck we got Optimus Optimus (Who would make a killer MP toy, if he was like Star Saber's size)
Ah, you're right, I originally thought maybe it was a piece of the heli's back tail fin thingy.
A little. I have fucking terribly shitty vision.
I just completed my CW Bruticus, or will whenever my Onslaught gets here in the mail, so I'm happy with him as is. But I'm glad to see the people waiting are getting something they want.
I just honestly don't want a cartoon colored Bruticus, so I went for the CW. The chestplate is ugly in the cartoon. Just like I went for CW Defensor, the cartoon colored UW version just didn't look as good.
>has a good bot and gorilla mode
Are we looking at the same pic right now? His only half-decent mode is his land vehicle mode and even that is brought down by the dumb hands just hanging out up front.
Yet you were just complaining about how it looks until now.
I never had trouble with it. The arm panels were the only stupid thing. How did they expect kids to deal with that loading shit?
Well that's not really a fact. That's an opinion. Many MANY others think he looks great.
Yeah the First design really was the only really great one. At least until the 10th ani deluxe which looked pretty good but that's mostly because I've always loved the Cybertron Jungle planet aesthetic.
He does have a lot going for him, but those arms are really what got me though. A simple wrist swivel wouldve made it a great figure. The surfboard is really random though.
I loved the megatron. If they gave him a full left arm and at least voyager size id buy it with no questions asked
Their beast mode articulation is perfectly done. That's the standard I want for MP beast era stuff. Fingers crossed.
>no one has mentioned the transformer movie action figures yet
Yeah, the Mario and Luigi guys. They were from the Allspark Almanac or something I think. People blew up all over the internet because "I already sold all my Animated toys!"
It was pretty funny.
yes, and nobody bought them and they're still sitting instock on BBTS because
A. the fanbase for animated isn't that big compared to G1
and B. even for the people who do like animated they're minor as fuck characters who only cameoed in one episode
I got CW Bruticus because I the silver chest works for me. That said, if I can get the Takara version without mortgaging my house I might, if only to give Blast Off and Vortex to CW Onslaught.
UW Defensor was $150 and a TTM Exclusive. If Bruticus is an exclusive I'd expect the same.
That said, if you haven't bought any Combaticons yet (and you probably shouldn't have considering the Brawl problem) you should be fine.
Those retooled rotors on Vortex give me hope for Brawl's waist.
>ko mp11 variations
How long until we have the pink version I wonder?
>"We need to keep cost down since these kids will toss them out in a few months time"
>"Oh but we better keep it safe with throw test because no one can transform these things without having a temper tantrum"
>"THEY'RE ALL MAN CHILDREN QUICK WE MUST CATER TO THE DINOSAURS AND CHARGE THEM PREMIUM FOR IT MWAHAHA"
>"WHO CARES ABOUT DURABILITY LETS ALL MORE FRAGILE PARTS THAT LOOK COOL"
When you look at it this way you're equally fucked.
Big chunky rook is safer than groove with a windshield, clear starscream will shatter before not blast off has been mocked for the final time.
Competition, markets, and retailers.
Transformers in the US has no direct competition, and serves as both a collector's toy and a kid's toy. They have to keep prices down to make a profit on the figures being sold to retailers at retailer-set prices.
The concept of size classes being single price points was a retailer thing. Retailers didn't like that companies could price individual units at different prices due to complexity. In Japan, you can sell each toy at an individual price. The west wanted all figures to be in easy to process size classes and price ranges to make it easier to shelf and process. They don't see figures as "Transformers Generations Optimus," they see it as "Toy, Boy's, $15."
Since they're both kid's toys and collector's toys, they have to follow all the west's safety guidelines, which can increase costs or force things to change. For instance, some people think we couldn't get Groove because of his windshield having too much clear plastic (although I'm pretty sure Chromia is comparable,) or that Scrapper didn't have elbows because of US safety standards for big toys.
This also means that they have to do things like sell Combiners with mismatched limbs, like how Superion had to have a car and helicoptor in his ranks because parents wouldn't buy their kids 5 jets.
In Japan, Transformers seem to be in a weird place where Generations isn't a Kid's toy at all, and things like RiD or Prime are totally meant for kids, and there's a lot more competition in both markets. That's why the Arms Micron figures in Japan had the Arms Microns: kids in Japan like Gundam models, so they wanted to appeal to that.
Basically, a lot of compromises get made in the West because Transformers is not a very focused line.
On the bright side, Hasbro has been talking about doing things like starting an initiative with Diamond for distributing to comic stores, and they teased something about an on-demand figure ordering system a while back.
They're not giving inferior products to the West, they're just offering a more expensive alternative to Japan.
Most of the Transformers you'll find in Japan are exactly the same you'll find at your local Walmart. The "japanese versions" like people like to call them are simply more expensive alternatives for an older public, mostly collectors, and they represent only a tiny amount of the Transformers figures sold there.
1. The market here in the west is massive and expansive in comparison to the Japan. Print runs here are both higher and are required to be made. Places like Target, Walmart, TRUs etc want large bulk orders which lead to needing to make a product that will sell in the hundred thousands mark or higher.
2. As such The collector market is much more unstable in the west. Most of West coast USA Scalpers and dedicated adult collectors are a weird folk tale where as I know in the mid east they are the norm. You also have issue of unpredictability, some fans wont buy a set because they are so poor with their lives/cash they cant handle it. There are also issues that a lot of adult collectors "grow out of it" and are no longer a market to target. A big reason Japan did UWs as box sets is thanks to the fact that the adult collector market there is way more stable and they understand how to cater to that market.
3. Hasbro while giving nods to the fans is still trying to feed and make the next generation of fans. If you actually grew up with G1 you are over/nearing your 40s. G2 and Beast Wars? You are hitting 30s. Meaning that many 20 somethings out there grew up with Armada and the like and here soon Animated will be the series that the 20 somethings new. You can't keep pushing the exact same market for 30+ years and not suffer stagnation MOTU really hit that during their attempt t the 2003 reboot which I argue was too much like the original series.
tldr: Hasbro has to make toys in a market of 300 million+ Walmart Shoppers. Takara has 100 million or less Mitsukoshi mall shoppers.
Pretty much this.
Two different markets, with different prices, in Japan.
So how come Hasbro doesn't make collector grade toys like Bandai and Takara? Even their exclusives for clubs and conventions are made exactly the same as their mass market toys.
that's what the mp line is for.
The hasbro versions I mean, though here in Australia we've been getting straight up imports with translated manuals such as g2 bumblebee and sideswipe with road rage coming too.
By translated the guy doing it is cutting out all the takara backstory and focusing on g1, in roadrage's case its just mentioning the one shot on the g1 artwork since that is all she has.
We even got UW superion but at the prices on offer no one is going to touch it, clearly pushing people to the CW versions
>Hasbro doesn't make collector grade toys like Bandai and Takara?
and add to it the fact they want to be able to pick up their products at walmarts and shit.
They hate specialty stores or having to shop online.
It's worth noting that Hasbro has tried several times to cater to a collector market in the last 20+ years but it keeps failing due to either no one wanting to pay the cost or willingness to buy online.
No, I'm just not retarded enough for that when I can get it directly from the source.
$192.47aud after ems shipping.
HLJ treats me good especially with combined shipping.
Toys R Us rapes your wallet because its an imported box they opened to put translated manuals
There are a lot of western collectors toylines that do just fine, though.
The only thing Hasbro really does is the Platinum sets which almost always shelfwarm because they're hot garbage
>and add to it the fact they want to be able to pick up their products at walmarts and shit.
>They hate specialty stores or having to shop online.
This isn't true at all.
Various kickstarters have shown they like high quality figures.
The collector's market has actually grown a lot in the past couple of years, so much that collector companies like NECA are becoming mainstream.
Companies like DC Direct have expanded from just making articulated replicas to fully jointed figures while maintaining high quality.
It only shows there's a large base of collectors who are willing to put their money out, which is why third party stuff has become so popular.
So why isn't Hasbro trying to capture some of that market? They already produce high end sculpts and use mostly quality plastics... but i really don't know shit on this pertaining to TFs, because i really don't care about TFs beyond a few designs.
Still, i'd pay the ~$3 more to get better paint apps with better QC on their figures over the normal stuff. More joints would be another five bucks.
They really should make a Premium subline for all their stuff.
>They really should make a Premium subline for all their stuff
We have the hasbro masterpiece line, all others are either dumbed down japanese toys ala cw rid2015 or imported sets at premium prices.
Here are some complaints some people may have with...oh say legends grand scourge, lets pretend the botcon variant doesn't exist for this.
>ugh I got this toy but cheaper years ago
>its still the same shitty toy but more paint
>I cant paint this myself
>the box isn't as good looking as the original release
>its still a kids toy unlike their hasbro masterpiece line which are for adults
Poor arguments, but they WILL be used and hasbro executives may see the same.
In short a premium subline for "kids toys" when the masterpiece line fits that perfectly.
Besides despite their superiority the japanese releases are...still kids toys, they just put more effort into them.
Wasn't sure what I'd encounter so I'd thought I'd be cautious.
What I'd rather hasbro do is ditch the whole hasbro mp box thing once skywarp is out and make all mp's outside of japan identical to the takara ones, this way no one misses out.
Its a shame about stuff like cw's, though I wonder...
Why do we get the stuff first, are we the test market?
>Why do we get the stuff first, are we the test market?
We get the basic stuff first because we share with the main market, US kids. But japan get "the collector stuff" first because their market is different.
Pretty sure we get it first and japan later.
Unless hlj and amiami are banned from selling combiner wars and regular RID2015 stuff (seeing how their unmasked megatronus came out much later and looking better than the tru version which is supposedly identical to their tru version over there).
That's a retailer issue, not an HasTak issue.
>This isn't true at all
You're wrong. Completely wrong. Just read some /toy/ threads about how much people spend, just look how many poorfags are butthurt about Takara releasing "the same figure" for more than Hasbro. The cheapfags are the majority in the West.
Why would you complain if it's the same toy? Just buy the cheap one and call it a day without bitching about the other one.
We're the primary market for the general release figures, because Transformers isn't as popular as a lot of things for kids in Japan.
The MPs are targeted to Japan first because they're limited specialty items and Japan's a smaller market, so they don't have to manufacture as many as when they come to America. They also don't handle Western distribution for niche items very well (see: every MP.)
UW has been a bit of a different animal than a lot of previous TF series in Japan because it's a lot of high-price items, so they wait to retool the general release versions for Japan. There also may be a bit of the fact that Hasbro doesn't want them to compete for Collector's dollars as far as missing members go.
There is also the kit with show-accurate magnets for Ratchet, statis cuffs and the Allspark case, and the one for geewun-ify Arcee.
Someone was also doing a kit to allow the Botcon 2011 Stunticons to form an actual Menasor and the Powermaster OP based on the Allspark Almanac sketches, but they were cancelled.
>Unite Warriors Bruticus
>G2 Colours only
Jesus Christ imagine that
In all likelihood,it'll be the cartoon colors.
I kinda like silver chestplate myself, but anything can be fine.
Speaking of, are there cartoon models that give Bruticus toy accurate colors (silver chestplate, greenish-blue under body)?
The "cartoon" version of the toy uses poop green for Bruticus' chestplate, instead of the brown and purple (like it came from Blast Off).
>and they teased something about an on-demand figure ordering system a while back.
Being actually able to buy what you want? And it only took them like 50 years to think of it? Goddamn, couple of top shelf fucking geniuses at Hasbro.
I'm not too thrilled about the gun, though. Where would you store it? Looks like a big hunk of plastic.
I like the guns and weapons made from smaller weapons to make something bigger. CW Superion did this a little bit with either combining either Skydive's gun or Powerglide with Silverbolt's/Superion's gun to make it more epic looking.
Still, keep it up!
The gun is waaaayyyy too big. It needs some serious downsizing. The other parts look alright I guess, but black plastic as a prototype is kind of meh because it's harder to make out the details. Should've gone with a brighter color like white, green, or red.
The gun does split into two smaller guns Scattershot (or anyone) can hold. Have a smaller prototype my Ironhide is holding now I'll post in a moment.
Sadly black plastic is all I have to work with at the moment. And I will downsize the gun, it is definitely way too big and would use too much plastic. It's also very thick. But I love how it looks in his hands. Next time I'll use gray plastic for the prototypes!
He does? Cool. Mine literally just arrived. Pic very related.
And Onslaught probably has it because he doesn't have a huge ass ladder acting as a figma stand for him, plus he is a remold, so they could've addressed issues in Hotspot.
Aaand shit. Onslaught's right arm upwards side thingy is kind of loose, as is his elbow, not the ratchet one, the pin one.
Futureshine to the rescue. What is it with the voyagers I get and having problems with their right arms? First my UW Motormaster (who still, sadly, isn't really that tight on his right after like 4 futureshinings dunno why it isn't working for him, it's worked PERFECTLY for every other figure I've tried it on), and now this.
got my combaticon limbs in the mail today, Onslaught (and his cheap annoying roommate he apparantly can't be sold without) are due either monday or Tuesday.
I really like Swindle, and I lucked out with Brawl, he's pretty stable.
I hate Blast Off and Vortex. It's not even the design issues, they're just really shitty molds, same reason I didn't buy the Arielbots.
Kind of surprising that Blast Off's handfoot thing is the only thing that Shockwave isn't loose in.
Turret doesn't swivel, it only has an up/down for the gun barrel and the turret itself moves (on twin stalks of plastic) to a really far forward position for transformation/combiner purposes.
Never put him into arm mode before, can't find my instructions for him ATM, but I *THINK* this is the right way?
There's nothing too fulfilling about transforming most MPs, they are too fiddly most times, I love them and I buy them because they are (usually) the best representation of a character but I'd be lying if I said I didn't like the CW leader Magnus more than MP Magnus
If it did I'd actually consider the box set. I definitely don't want cartoon-colors Onslaught thanks to the fuckhorrible chest in the cartoon, but a fixed Brawl, Vortex with 4 rotors, AND a possibly all new Blastoff mold (if it is all new rather than just a slightly retooled jet mold with different nose cone and back end) might be worth the buy in for me personally.
I actually did get them to hold him.
Once. And then I took him out and now cannot get them to hold him again since I'd repositioned everything. I must've configured the fingers and thumb in a specific way to do it and now I can't fucking remember how I did it.
i think Blast Off is okay personally. But Vortex is without a doubt the worst of the group. His legs are terrible, and his propeller is always in the way. I actually think Brawl is kinda cute, waist issues aside. He'd work as a plush toy if you gave him that material. 3rd best if you ask me.
Aw man, why did all the good CW stuff have to come at the end?
I got a Hasbro Bruticus, but I anticipated to get this anyway. He's my favorite combiner, so I really don't mind having 2.
I'm thinking about cancelling my Grand Galvatron. I mean, I only preordered him because I was annoyed at the lack of Decepticon Combiners, but if Liokaiser is real, I might be pretty satisfied.
>Without a doubt the worst
What the fuck? You may not like him, but he is far from any possible "without a doubt the worst" ranking. His legs are fine and are just like the Arielbots legs, and the propeller isn't completely in the way. Brawl is definitely the worst, he's got more issues aside than just the waist.
I'm actually a bit angry about the whole Leokaiser thing.
It's not that he's not perfect (he isn't, but they kind of tried if the art is to be believed), but I already spent cash on cheap limbs for Sky-Lynx, so don't have much of a reason to get him outside of a bitching color scheme, weapons, and possibly new hand/feet parts.
>his legs are fine
>can't spread them to any monumental degree without popping one off due to the artistic savant who added details to the thigh pieces making them rub against the body
And don't tell me about shaving plastic, I shouldn't have to do that on a figure to make it pose right.
Vortex is subpar. His arm and leg mode are fine, but the robot mode is where it all falls apart.
As for Brawl, it's just my opinion, and I know a lot of people hate him for a bunch of justified reasons, so objectively he'd probably be on par with Vortex if somewhat worse, but his cute boxiness raises him above in my eyes.
I have no idea what you're referring to as 'kibble' on those guys. They don't really have any hanging off bits of weird stuff.
Like, to me, 'kibble' is stuff like you usually get with plane bots, where they've literally got a whole plane hanging off their back in robot mode.
It does look like they kind of tried, your right. I'm hoping that they maybe did a little retooling for the other guys. I'm just glad we got a little something extra for the Decepticons.
I don't think Target and Walmart is cancelling them, I'm a little impressed. I mean, I did manage to see the deluxe Combaticons in stores around Christmas. I feared they would have never made it, like Arcee and Brainstorm last year.
>>can't spread them to any monumental degree without popping one off due to the artistic savant who added details to the thigh pieces making them rub against the body
What the hell are you talking about? I'm fiddling with him right now, and he has no such issues moving his legs around, without the need to pop anything off. Yes, I'm noticing the thigh pieces are rubbing against the body slightly, but I don't see this presenting any issue actual issue. Are you sure you don't have a defective figure?
What I mean is, if you look at a silhouette of Bruticus with Vortex and Blast Off as the arms, it has a very vertical look to it.
Could you have it where Swindle and Brawl as arms give a horizontal look?
I have no idea, honestly. I usually go for official configurations of stuff, and my brand new Onslaught is now sitting on my shelf to cure for a full day after I futureshine'd his loose bits.
I worded it poorly, but with Vortex you can bend his leg to the side, and bend it forward, but you can't do both at the same time without wrestling with it due to the detail. You have to be either be deluding yourself, or something is terribly wrong with my figure.
But imagine this:
>Unite Warriors Bruticus
>Valdigus/Ruination Colors only
Okay, now I see what you're talking about. Still, this is the first time I've ever noticed that, even having Alpha Bravo. I guess I never really saw posing in that particular fashion to really be a big deal.
That'd be on my must have list. Especially if they opted for the Walmart exclusive urban camo colors.
I always love coming here to see people complain when they do toy fairs, or con reveals. I still remember when they revealed the second set of Autobot cars, and the shitposting that ensued.
Not the guy who made it but on an FDM machine not very smooth. That said it's a prototype, you know? He can clean them up and make a mold and you'd never know the finished product was 3d printed.
Maybe it's because I didn't buy any Arielbots, but I feel very uneasy when transforming Blast Off and Vortex's legs. It feels like I'm going to break something when I have to split them apart.
Thats why I'm afraid for the clear plastic GG Starscream.
The best way I can figure to split their legs is to fist unhinge them at the side, and then gently split at the hinge section, then at the foot section.
I know floor polish is good for helping to tighten-up loose joints (namely ball-socket joints), but how should it be applied/what steps need to be taken?
Example: if I want tighten the joint from arm to elbow, do I coat both the ball and socket and stick them together, or keep them separate?
I just take an eyedropper and put a drop wherever the problem area is, and then move the joint all around it's possible range of motion several times to ensure it's coated.
Then you let it cure for a full 24 hours.
>Unite Warriors version comes in Baldigus colours
I don't even collect TFs anymore and that'd still be a day-one purchase.
I mean, shit. I loved G1 but even I can understand the old toys don't hold a candle to what we have today. I'll take a little mold reuse over 0 articulation and squat flat boxes with twigs for arms.
>The Car robots Combaticon insignia revolves entirely around Laser Prime's discs
>Laser Optimus has G2 autobot logos on them
>Takara was too cheap to remold them, so they just ran with it
>The Hasbro version just removed them from the mold.
In hindsight, I kinda like the upside down logo.
I'm glad he was able to reup it. I remember watching it right after he put it up.
I remember in the threads a couple of people did posts with thier own ten bots,ten shots lists(myself included). It was fun.
The original is one of my favourite toys to this day. It's not vintage so you don't have to worry about playing with it, and literally every piece is used in combined mode. (Mega-Octane's chest shield can plug into the back of Amourhide's double-barrel cannon)
Anybody know a good Grimlock and Optimus from Animated?
The Voyager looks really nice, but has shit scaling with Voyager Optimus, and I am wondering which would be good ones to get for that particular line?
its like any shitty meme, just ignore it, it may not go away but it will loose relevance.
Besides if you think about it its basically like a trip for the guy, lately when he post unlike at the beginning he actually post something relevant to the discussion rather than as a lame reply.
Bitching about it results in>>5394458
But I'm not that guy though and your variation sucked.
Here in Australia we have g2 bee and lambor as straight up imports, that tells me that may of shelved that idea and just given us them in TT boxes.
Which is good since those boxes are smaller, the toys wouldn't have those shitty safety tampo prints and the figures would be pretty much perfect unlike the mixed bag hasbro ones, problem is being sold at tru here they marked them up double japanese rrp, lambor and bee sit at $105aud currently with some small anime shops dealing $90 or less.
I heard nothing about the ko's I'm afraid, and while I dislike hasbro versions I still need to complete my hasbro seekers, once that is done they can pump out anything and I won't touch it unless its price goes to clearance levels.
>Every MP release was the same
Bullshit though I'm glad you remembered soundwave.
>hasbro starscream has a blue nose cone no coronation set subbed with flight stand
>thundercracker better homages the old toy with tampo's on shoulder vents and sonic boom on rear rudders
>all mp's have safety tampo's
>sunstorm became a shithead ronald mc donald
>quality on fittings on newer hasbro versions are lower than takara versions which suggest mold degradation and lower qc checks
I say this as an owner of hasbro starscream (have to force the chest apart to transform into robot which I didn't have to do on older hasbro seekers), all hasbro seekers (I sadly like shithead ronald mc donald), hasbro prowl and hasbro bluestreak (prowl has a slightly off center autobot symbol but he was fine, took me opening 15 total bluestreaks until I found one that didn't look like a 2yr painted it AND could hold its car form without undue stress).
But in short hasbro versions better homage the toys (where possible) and show shows of lower qc, I will buy hasbro ones IF I missed out on the takara and based on price, but unlike the takara I will be cautious and buy them in person rather than be comfortable with opening a package from japan and expecting greatness.
My second hand smokescreen with a chipped bumper did amazing out of the box compared to the many bluestreaks I had, thank fuck the tru I visit are patient enough (though it seems waiting on me gets them out of work so it may be of mutual benefit)