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Old thread is dead.

We continue here.
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reposting as just noticed new thread

>>5394503
>Every MP release was the same

Bullshit though I'm glad you remembered soundwave.

>hasbro starscream has a blue nose cone no coronation set subbed with flight stand
>thundercracker better homages the old toy with tampo's on shoulder vents and sonic boom on rear rudders
>all mp's have safety tampo's
>sunstorm became a shithead ronald mc donald
>quality on fittings on newer hasbro versions are lower than takara versions which suggest mold degradation and lower qc checks

I say this as an owner of hasbro starscream (have to force the chest apart to transform into robot which I didn't have to do on older hasbro seekers), all hasbro seekers (I sadly like shithead ronald mc donald), hasbro prowl and hasbro bluestreak (prowl has a slightly off center autobot symbol but he was fine, took me opening 15 total bluestreaks until I found one that didn't look like a 2yr painted it AND could hold its car form without undue stress).

But in short hasbro versions better homage the toys (where possible) and show shows of lower qc, I will buy hasbro ones IF I missed out on the takara and based on price, but unlike the takara I will be cautious and buy them in person rather than be comfortable with opening a package from japan and expecting greatness.

My second hand smokescreen with a chipped bumper did amazing out of the box compared to the many bluestreaks I had, thank fuck the tru I visit are patient enough (though it seems waiting on me gets them out of work so it may be of mutual benefit)
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>>5393385 #
Combiner Wars literally had as many new Deluxe molds in 2015 as Thrilling 30 had in 2014, with far more reshells. You're literally mad that we're getting more toys. Stay pleb mate
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My MP Road Rage has a horribly floppy chest spinner, is that something that's fixable with floor polish?
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>>5394533
>No Autobot Brother limbs with Magnus from Rook
S H I T
H
I
T
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>Scramble City exchange
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>>5394576
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>>5394580
thank you, I posted that in the hopes someone done it better
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>>5394576

>People have purchased the same set of 5 different robots at least four times each

This is seeker collection levels of retarded.
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>>5394580
Should be Rook and Alpha Bravo out in front.
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>>5394611
Er, Rook and Offroad, rather.
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>>5394607
But some have new heads and different paint jobs!
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>>5394607
I hope you have fun with your 3P Masterpiece collection
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>>5394607
Aye. We back in Unicron Trilogy days now.
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>>5394607
That has been TFs for a long as time anon
2014
2013
2012
Those 3 years at least were just like this one where almost ever mold was reused at least 1.
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Literally the only era of Transformers that wasn't full of redecos was late-G1 and Beast Wars. Quit yer whining.
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>>5394607
Did it with the lambors and the datsuns too, is part of the fandom.
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>>5394607
Let’s take Jesus off the dashboard.
Got enough on his mind.
Each robot is different despite being a repaint or retool. I am not a fan of the g1 autobot limbs though. But if some molds work well as another combiner limb, I'm all for it. The basic transfotmation scheme is almost the same anyway. Which is why I'm still bummed that we will not get beast combiners. They could just have a single base robot and just retool the monster/beast parts and robot heads.
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Fucking trannies everywhere.
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>>5394657
Cross-dresser Prowl kek
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>>5394657
So what is Vicky again? Some convention exclusive? I don't see preorders for it.
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>>5394657
I'll buy Victorion and call the members Kira 1, Kira 2, etc.

Despite being a combiner, rook can kick their asses
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>>5394664
I don't think it'd be difficult, Victorion would just sit in the corner, crying because Xe's triggered.
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>>5394670
I have a strong feeling that hasbro will repaint this into Nightbird minus the combiner peg.
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>>5394663
I seen one on a site, believe it'll be a retail at some point but much later on
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>>5394616
I do. Good stuff.

>>5394646
A mold/retool/repaint is fine. The same mold being used ad infinitum is a bit lazy.

>>5394650
It's equally dumb at high price points as low price points.
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>>5394674
wtf. Why not just use the actual Nightbird.
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>>5394533

> Old thread barely over bump limit
> LoL It's Ded

Why?
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>>5394674
I could see this being forced into a arcee

>>5394678
To expensive for Hasbro to make.
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This is pretty cool. Who's Offroad supposed to be? Lockdown?
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>>5394678
Same reason we never got deluxe groove
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>>5394674
>NuFunpub exclusive 2017
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>>5394693
Funpub is losing the license
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>>5394690
Curse those drop tests.
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>>5394690
>yfw deluxe groove gets released in america
>but only in the g2 defensor box set
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>>5394689
I think it's either Tarn, or Flatline.
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>>5394689
Altmode and combined mode pics pls
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>>5394607
>>5394646

Yeah, I think people here are just late-comers who came in around 2010 or so. Part of the reason theClassics line even continued was because Hasbro designers planned to reuse molds multiple times to make the most of the budget; hence why the first few toys in Universe 2.0 were all those that had a ton of repaints(Prowl, Sunstreaker, Ironhide). And honestly, the G1 scramble city based combiner limbs all used very similar transformations anyway.
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>>5394701
>it's okay when G1 does it, it should be okay 30 years later
Boy, I'll be glad once the GEEWUNNERS die off.
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>>5394682
>Too expensive
I guess youre joking considering its pretty much the same toy as arcee.
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>>5394689
It wouldn't have been that hard to give shockwave the pink hands.
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>>5394697
Let’s take Jesus off the dashboard.
Got enough on his mind. I'm a g2 collector and I'm hoping for this. I'm also hoping for shuttle blastoff in the g2 boxset.
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>>5394707
I imagine all the thrilling thirty molds are now out of hasbro's budget range, rumour has it that after Titans return, the leader class will be legends sized, with no paint apps.
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>>5394710
G2 Blastoff is the slingshot/fireflight mold, unless takara does one, you're fucked.
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>>5394706
Yeah. Once all the geewunners are gone, the bayformers fans will inherit the fandom. There will be another endless releases of bumblebee, skids, and mudflap
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>>5394710
Christ man they already shown off the mock up and physical product.

THERE IS TOO MUCH ON HASBRO'S MIND TO NOT GIVE US THE DAMN SHUTTLE
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>>5394712
>the leader class will be legends sized, with no paint apps.
Tanks to Ga I can finally save some money.
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>>5394715
That still rocks!
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>>5394722
I know, that's why I'm selling my hasbro vortex and brawl and getting this with takara's as my main
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>>5394715
I believe John Warden abides by this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI
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Huh?
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>>5394699
I don't have pics of the altmodes, but here's combined mode.
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>>5394542
>>sunstorm became a shithead ronald mc donald
Honestly both Sunstorms suck ass

All Takara needed to do was pic related, but noo, we got mango creamsicle jackass with fire tatoos
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>>5394580
i love it!
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>>5394689
I think Nemesis Prime? that looks like alternity nemesis' head
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>>5394733
>ultra magnus

wut

>>5394737
Takara's was based on his g1 "cameo", pretty sure they do characters first before comic variants...or where ever your pic is from.
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>>5394706
I wasn't even around in the 80's; just saying if you have a line that's all updates of G1 stuff that was all very similar, don't expect much variety.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if this extends further in the next few years. early on in CW, I was speculating that Hasbro may be experimenting with using a "Buck" system(like Marvel Legends, MOTUC/DCUC, and even Hot Toys to an extent), where in one base body type is reused multiple times.I mean moreso than we see with Seeker Repaints and Datsun brothers. Rather,more extensive like the Rook to Swindle/Hound. I can see them taking a Datsun brothers type transformation(car chest, door wings) and remolding the car shell and robot parts to fit a range of characters, like Jazz, Bumblebee, or Drift, all having different alt-modes, but transforming the same. Or having a few generic beast bodies that can be remolded for multiple bipedal, quadripedal, and insectoid creatures.
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>>5394733
>>5394743

It's fake; a joke from around 2006 or so when most UT lines were reusing G1 names regardless of how accurate the character was to G1; mainly to secure copyrights. The title of the ATT post it came from was something like "If Beast Wars was named the way lines are now".Shock"blast" and "Maximal" Prowl are the most obvious tells.

I think it's gained traction mainly because BW was intended to be a direct G2 sequel early one (Cheetor's head really does look a lot like Prowl's)
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>>5394701
>honestly, the G1 scramble city based combiner limbs all used very similar transformations anyway.

THIS

The scramble city robots sucked dick, and they all did the same thing and they were boring. They're good toys now, so quit complaining

Fuck, the G1 Aerialbots all had the same transformation, yet man children cry when they're so similar now.
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>>5394751
>most UT lines were reusing G1 names regardless of how accurate the character was to G1
We can use that for the movies now

Fuck Movie Ironhdie
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>>5394751
Aw. That would've been cool. I'm really digging the wolfang as "Hound" and Tigatron as "Jazz".
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>>5394752
All the orginal guys look different though,
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>>5394755
Movie Ironhide is at least more fun than "BUT PRAAAAHM"
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>>5394762
If we're naming characters based on their G1 counterparts, wouldn't have made more sense to call Movie Ironhide "Cliffjumper"?
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>>5394763
How?
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>>5394763
Not really.honestly G1 Ironhide barely had a personality beyond "tough guy", which fits movie Ironhide well.
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>>5394764
Wasn't G1 Cliffjumper the really trigger happy guy?
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>>5394770
Perhaps, but when I look at that movie design, I don't see the name "cliffjumper". Ironhide suits it, even if just as a descriptor.
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>>5394690
It's not the same reasons at all. The Arcee mold has already been used in the US, nothing would stop a Nightbird release.
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>>5394788
Just Hasbro's cheapness.
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>>5394788
Nightbird has the extra weapons and boatloads of shiny paint.
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>>5394825
Yeah Because Hasbro and takara always do the same paint apps.
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>>5394825

It also kind of sucks because you can't shave down the insides of her hands due to that paint. They didn't even bother to fix the fact that she can't hold her weapons.
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Can somebody explain to me why the Third Party thread hates HasTak's Devestator so much? You'd think the toy killed their parents or something.
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>titan wars brainmasters never ever
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>>5394837
Wasn't that a running change to the Hasbro mold because Arcee's dainty little hands were snapping? I'd much rather have an unnoticeable weird grip on a gun than have the hand fly off.
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>>5394844
Lol nobody gives a fuck about that japanese shit.
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>>5394839
Because they spent $400-$600 on their turd party Devs and would always flaunt Devastator as "Something Hasbro will NEVER EVER do so support 3rd parties instead"
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>>5394839
Tried asking them?
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>>5394839
Because it makes the least effort to be an acceptable transformers toy by current standards.
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>>5394847
>not wanting a Generations Road Caesar
lol fag
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>>5394858
>Road Caesar

Who?
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>>5394854
what does that even mean? it's a good toy
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>>5394861
So you don't know liokaizer either then
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>>5394839
Because it devalues their toys.
Without the hastak devy, more fans would be willing to pay premium for a proper devastator. More demand means their toy's value holds well if not increase. It becomes a good investment if ever they want to flip it for cash.
With the hastak devy, people could easily settle for the more affordable and official devastator.
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>>5394837
It's not like people can see the inside of her hands while holding the weapons...
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>>5394847
>>5394847
>nobody gives a fuck about that japanese shit.

Yeah, that's why we're never getting a Combiner Wars Liokaiser, right?
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>>5394863
Is he some gaylord like Battle Gaia?
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>>5394861
Just another nipponbot with a stupid name.
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>>5394864
I still don't get the appeal of TFC Hercules. It's not even that iconic lime green- just daily dose green instead.
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>>5394867
>bruticus
>gaylord

nigga wut
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>>5394746
It's really not that bad, though. Like Marvel Legends, its a good way to get lots and lots of characters a chance to get toys who wouldn't otherwise. If it hadn't been for the shitty Autobot repaint wave we might not have gotten some other guys.

Transformers is a franchise with hundreds upon hundreds of characters, and there's somebody who wants each and every one of them to be remade at any time. None of the CW molds are bad (save for Brawl,) so it doesn't hurt that we might get a chance to get a lot of guys out of a single line, especially the ones who are kinda generic looking.

Now, that doesn't mean ALL Deluxes need to go to a standard set of vehicle modes, but you've got to admit it's an effective way to get a shitload of the generic car guys new toys on the shelves. It's a safer bet than tooling ten different car modes for ten different guys and having some of them end up garbage.
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>>5394607
I got a ton of them in sales, and clearance specials, so it didn't cost me that much.
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>>5394871
Different guy, nerd.
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>>5394862
>No elbows on Scrapper
>Sideways elbows on Long Haul
>Gimped elbows on two other figures
>No crane movement on Hook
>Holes in Long Hauls truck bed
>Overly large figures which makes top issues and the hollow and cheaper aspects more blatant
>Mixmaster being changed so drastically for arbitrary reasons
>Combined mode is about twice as big as every other combiner

He's an okay toy, but tons of missed potential. I know most of you are going to say "Who cares, it's gonna be combined most of the time anyway" but no, not in my house it wouldn't. Robot mode quality was sacrificed too much, and not even to make combined mode better so much as penny pinching.
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>>5394845
No. Nightbird uses the original version of her hands with the lip that makes her hold her guns by the tips.

Arcee got a running change that removed the lip and added a plastic piece to close her hands so her thumbs couldn't snap off.

Arcee's hands were solid plastic so you could shave off the lip, and as long as you didn't twist the weapons her thumb would hold just fine. Nightbird's hands are only painted silver so any shaving will fuck the whole thing up.
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>>5394875
If I'm a nerd how did I get it wrong?

Shit man its like the seekers, all the bloody same
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>>5394878
Are we just ignoring Unite Wars?
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>>5394880
Shut up, squirt!
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>>5394878
if you care about the robot modes so much just buy the Takara one. Complaining about toys this much cant be healthy

>>No crane movement on Hook
it moves
>>Holes in Long Hauls truck bed
thats where his shin guards go in truck mode
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>>5394878
It also doesn't cost $600
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>>5394533
I have an idea

If we put the sentence "Stop complaining about childrens toys" in each OP post, would it decrease the crying and whining and arguing?
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>>5394892
if everyone got a job and made money there'd definitely be a lot less whining.
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>>5394892
No, silly goose. That will only encourage us more.
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>>5394892
Hmmmm yes good idea. Nobody has a right to have opinions.
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>>5394897
i didnt say that
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>>5394900
As long as the opinions are good, everything will be fine! :D
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>>5394714
My baby nephews are more interested in Robocar Poli and that Audley rip-off Superwings, not that much in Rescuebots or RID15.

I guess Robocar Poli is the future of the fandom, transformers will be stuck geewunning.
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>>5394906
whats fucking refreshing is how Poli is just different and how the toys are just toys not 'figures'

>and this figure is really good! I like how the dark green works making the figure pop out with the yellow detailing. not a lot of figures do this, did you imagine this green text as Baltmatrix anon?
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>>5394906
Finally I can get an afforable Universe Inferno.
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>>5394906
I get their names except for Roi. Why is he called Roi?
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>>5394892
Where do you think you are?

>>5394913
lel
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>>5394906
>30 years from now
>GENERATIONS ROBO POLI IS HOLLOW AS FUCK
>ROBO POLI MOVIE RAPED MUH CHILDHOOD
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>>5394930
Dunno but the show's produced by RoiVisual
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>>5394879
I don't use nightbird's guns. Her daggers fit her hands well enough.
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>>5394903
We TFW now.
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>>5394906
Does that police car have a propellor siren?
That be funny as fuck if it did.
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>>5394944
>daggers
While they're not used as much as say katanas or swords, and even though you may not know the exact name, it's obvious those aren't daggers.
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>>5394955
Whatever, weebs.
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>>5394948
Better than allspark.
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>>5394957
It's basic knowledge.
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>>5394844
I'm hopeful we'll get them in Pretender Wars.
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>>5394698
>>5394712
>doughnut steel chopper girls get new retool arms
>Blades doesn't

Bothers me more than it should
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>>5394844
They'll also be headmasters, at least that's what Hasbro's implying by making PM Prime, and Blur into Headmasters.
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>>5394715
I approve a Jet Blast Off over a Space Shuttle but what I can't agree with is not giving him a G1 accurate head.
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>>5394975
You could give head.

3p will release one. Or maybe 3d print?
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>>5394657
>>5394670
>>5394682
>>5394712
>>5394698

You know, the car bots are starting to grow on me, something about them is kind of cute and classic about them, almost as if they were gobots. Hell you could probably get a good Crasher out of the non Nightbird one. the copter limbs are all kinds of shit though.
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>>5394995

I could see this being a thing if PE does a Bruticus "upgrade" set that isn't just the hands/feet.
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>>5395001
I'm surprised they never did a new Defensor head. He needs it far more than Superion does.
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>we never got a guinea pig transformer in beast wars
>or a bearded dragon
sigh.
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>>5395001
I could see that. They did one for Superion and Menasor, they should do one for Bruticus. I love him, but his crotch plate is shit, and he needs huge cannons on his back, and also a big gun that can be used by his PE hands, right now my Bruticus is using MP-01's gun, which works great, but something more proper is in need.
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>>5394995
>>5394975
>>3p will release one. Or maybe 3d print?
there's already a head on Shapeways by Steamshield
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>>5395008
You've complained about this before. Sorry you're butthurt.
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>>5395008
>bearded dragon
What about Iguanus? he even had two toys!
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>>5395008
You know what bugs me? Towards the end, BW and BW Neo really branched out in animal selection. But ever since then, the beast choices in new series have all focussed on the same old dinos, big cats,and insects.
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>>5394906
MP Amber Lamps when
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>>5395017
Yeah, I was thinking he could work. Taking the frilled neck piece off the Basic class toy might be a good idea. Frilled neck lizards and beardies are related, too.

>>5395020
Neo was really ambitious for sure with stuff like Break, Mach Kick, and Longrack. Shame most Neo toys were shitty shellformers.
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>>5394906

Classics when?
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>>5394906

> No elbows
> No knees
> No universal hips
> No universal shoulders
> No ankle tilts

What kind of baby shit is this. I am going to get them just to male a Youtube video of them going into the trash.
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>>5394906
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>>5394881

>same shit but now with the bare minimum for acceptable elbows at a more expensive price

It's not that much better. I don't think any Devastator from any company has really hit the nail on the head except for maybe the Legends scaled one from DX9 (only because no partsforming is a novelty). Has/Tak came so close but so fucking far. The Turds are expensive and derivative, often only having a little resemblance to the character, but at least most of them are solid standalones.

Really I'd like to see one of those enhanced KOs that are starting to come out of China where they take the originals and improve it like the Evasion Prime, Voyager Movie Hound, and some of Warbotron not-combaticons.
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>>5395025
>>5395044
dose lamps...
dose amber lamps...
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>>5395064
Deluxe-sized KO CW Constructicons when?
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>>5395099
Considering the rate of TF KOs at this point, soon, and they'll have diecast metal in them and ab crunches.
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>>5394975
I kind of agree, but on the other hand giving him a different head makes it so much easier to repurpose him as a different guy.
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>>5395091
Still looks better than g1 ratchet.
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And the full team is together. Finally. The Combaticons are one of my absolute favorite teams.
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>>5395129
Too bad about brawl.
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>>5395134
You mean Blast off.
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>>5395138
This. At least brawl is still a tank.
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>>5395142
At least Blast Off doesn't fall apart
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>>5395138
>>5395142
Blast off just has the wrong alt mode used.

Brawl is a piece of engineering trash that's even the best QC can only make him mediocre.
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>>5395134

My Brawl's waist hooks in fine thankfully. No floppy donkey dick waist on mine.

>>5395138

I like jet Blastoff. Would I choose shuttle if one was easily available, maybe. But he certainly fits the military aesthetic as a jet more than as a random shuttle.
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So is this person Medix or somneone new?
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>>5395152
Did Takara fix Breakdown's hips, on that note?
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>>5395157
Probably not?
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>>5395155
Wow. Cybertron Prime.
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How does Strongarm transform?

I'm pretty sure her windshield and roof are her arms, her grill is her chest, and her front bumper is her "belt." It also looks like her wheels invert to form her shoulders, and the wheels on her legs flip around to the insides of her calves, but...well, where do her boob plates come from?

The only place that has that pattern on her altmode is the area near her back wheels, but I don't think those articulate around her body, do they? Besides, those parts don't mind up with her door/window kibble.
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>>5395178
Some of those are parts which are not visible in altmode
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>>5395157
>>5395173
Yep I remember reading something about his and Motormasters hips being fixed after the UW-02 box set came out.
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>>5395129
>And the full team is together

But there is only four combaticons there plus the Aerialbot there in camo.
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>remember disliking classics Hot Rod when I got him
>today I just picked him off the shelf and messed with him a bit
>have a nice time
I don't know why I hated him so much. Probably because mine has a gimp right arm that falls off the balljoint contantly.
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>>5395247
Mine does that too. Must be a problem with the mold.

I wonder if there's a fix for that? I've got a couple TFs with Ball Joints that just don't fit.
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>>5395106
i'd sooner buy that devastator than what we have now. It's huge and it's nice, but it's also a tad ridiculous
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>>5394906
Can all the characters turn into robot modes, or just the main characters?
Don't see ones of the other characters/
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>>5394864

So they're literally just upset that people can buy a Devestator without paying $600 or more?

I'm sure it doesn't help that HasTak's Devs actually looks like Devestator.
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>>5395157

Fix how? Mine from the UW set are pretty shitty, can't get his hips all the way "up". Afraid to try forcing it because the ball joints might snap right the fuck off if I try too hard.
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>>5395252
>>5395247

Could try thin coats of clear nail polish on the ball of the ball joint itself. I think thats what /toy/ usually recommends?
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>>5395265
I'm satisfied with the official Devastator, not because I want one, I prefer the MT version, but because prices soon after for the 3rd party versions go down so much.

I bet when Computron comes out in full, Quantron is going to absolutely die in price, which I can't wait for.
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>>5395278
I don't think that will work on mine since the ball itself is misformed which is what causes it to pop out.
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>>5395283

Well, the purpose of it is to build up the outer layer on the ball to make it bigger. But if it's like, visibly malformed, I dunno what you could do. Maybe just shove some stiktak or something in the joint, but that might be a terrible idea.
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>>5395281

He was on sale during the holidays though for like $200-300. Plus he's pretty ugly. He really looks like they just threw random shit together.
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>>5395293
You mean like normal Computron? But I realize he's not to everyone's tastes, and I don't particularly like how he's paper thin from the sides. But I really like his look personally, most I'd pay for it is 200$.
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>>5395293
If 3P stuff wasn't so overpriced, I'd totally buy some stuff like Quantron and Giant not for my Classics shelf, but just as stand-alone transforming robots. I really like how 3Ps get creative with transformations and stuff, but I also don't like how much they have to take liberties. Maketoy's Giant's combined mode is cool, but a lot of its iindividual bot designs except for maybe Scrapper and Mixmaster bore me.

On the note of CW Computron, Strafe is looking pretty good!
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>>5395247
This. Whenever I asked /tfg/ about Classics Hot Rod, the general consensus was that he's shit.

I bought one anyway a few weeks back and I really like him. My only problem with him is the somewhat limited arm articulation.
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>>5395307
His only real issue are his arms, which are really bad even for the time he came out.

It's a real shame no third party made replacement arms with more articulation
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>>5395314
His legs are shit as well, I never understood why his lower leg was rotating, but not his thigh.
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>>5395301
I agree with you, but watch that sentiment with Third Party guys. They fly into an autistic rage if you even dare to say something is too expensive because "I'M willing to pay for quality, unlike you, POORFAG."

I have a couple Turds, and they generally have pretty shit QC (broken joints in the package, tons of stress marks) or one or two elements that are way too fragile. The ones I have are fun toys, but then I bought them on sale. And I'd never drop the insane prices for a 3p combiner.

I think Quantron is on clearance on BBTS, though. I might grab him at some point, but definitely not for full price. And the KO Giant/Herculese/Whatever looks pretty good for being such a low price comparatively.
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>>5395319

Yeah, 3P stuff is a fucking arm and a leg, combiners especially.

Still not stopping me from looking at Feral Rex. I'll eat 78 cent ramen for a month if it'll get me a fucking updated, good looking Predaking, since Hasbro probably isn't doing it at this point, yet somehow is tossing out Liokaiser...
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>>5395350
Eh, I've never liked Predaking that much, so I couldn't be assed to pay 100 clapbux a bot for him. My favorite combiners have always been Menasor (the 3P of which is awful,) Abominus ( I think there's a 3p?) and Monstructor (who nobody wants to touch.)

One thing I've kind of noticed about the hardcore 3p guys and the official guys is that a lot of the 3p guys don't care much for the fiction, and just want one or two robot toys.
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Any in store CW Onslaught, Scattershot or Shockwave sightings?
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>>5395364
Monstructor has a 3P version coming out by FP.

> 3p guys don't care much for the fiction, and just want one or two robot toys.

Which is strange given how much influence the fiction has on 3Ps. I don't it's a coincidence MMC is doing Overlord and Impactor and the DJD for example.
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>>5395374
I haven't heard a peep on here or the 3P threads regarding the FP Dinoking stuff out right now. Is anybody buying it?
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>>5395364

I always loved Predaking's design. It's really awesome.
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>>5395365

Just the limbs.
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>>5395374
>FP

Didn't they do that horrible Menasor?

I'd honestly rather wait on a potential Hasbro one than pay for a mess like that.
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>>5395376
I would buy every single victory and zone third party set by anyone if I had the money.
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>>5395400
I don't understand how anyone was able to defend the legs just being stilts with cars stapled onto them. "It's G1 cartoon accurate!" As if it's a good thing to make a Menasor that's Motormaster with cars stapled onto his arms and legs.
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I can't get into Monstructor/Dinoking at all. Pretender shells aside, I can't think of them as anything but a smaller Terrorcon copycat.
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>>5395414
>Who cares it looks good?
>Every combiner has partsforming!
>Let's see YOU do better!
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>>5395428

Monstructor, Thunderwing, and Bludgeon are the boss monsters of IDW

He's sort of more like a monstrous Devestator than another Abominus.
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Thank you Takara! Now I'll be able to imitate this pose with Unite Warriors Blast Off!
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>>5395445
I really hope he doesn't get fucked over like Leokaiser. They tried with Leokaiser, but they didn't go all the way.
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>>5395445
I know that he's a really cool eldritch abomination in Dreamwave. But toy-wise, he's basically like a tiny Abominus. Both teams are made of of robots that transform into monsters, but Monstructor's are super vague and similar to the Terrorcons:
>wildfly=cutthroat
>icepick, scowl, and slog=blot
And then Birdbrain and Bristleback are vague quadrupedal monsters (sinnertwin and hun-grr... kinda?).
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>>5395400
FP has been on a downward spiral for awhile.
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>>5395414
>As if it's a good thing to make a Menasor that's Motormaster with cars stapled onto his arms and legs.

Some of us actually loved that concept.
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>>5395454

You know, if Leokaiser got a Legends guy, it might be an okay compromise. But yeah, Leozack not getting a vehicle mode is pretty bad.

I've always liked how Leokaiser has a teal torso and head so the little black head just doesn't do it for me. I'll have to wait on the Takara repaint and pay the Jap tax for him.
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>>5395470
Is your brain broken?
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>>5395475
Thats because the torso is a hybrid of jallugar/leozak ,shuttle was probably scrapped and instead goes into deathsaurus beast form
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>>5395481
>Deathsaurus
>No Robot mode
>Quadruped Beast mode

Who thought this was a good idea
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>>5395446
>Swindle Brawl and Bruticus running into Blastoff
>Bruticus
>With 3 of his limbs in front of him.
G1 man, G1.
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2016 Combiners

>G2 Superion
>G2 Menasor
>G2 Bruticus
>Computron
>Leokaiser
>Victorion

and this is after Combiner Wars is over
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>>5395499
All boxsets, and they're all probably going to be TRU exclusives, which is the worst thing that could have happened.
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>>5395495

QUALITY is a serious issue in many series, Anon.

Doesn't make this any less hilarious though.
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>>5395499
>G2 recolors go right into the trash where they belong with those garish color schemes
>The very definition of shelf warmer, guy no one knows because Japanese G1, and the fanvoted combiner
>and no Piranacon, Abominus, or Predaking

Feels bad, man.
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>>5395506
>QUALITY is a serious issue in many series
No need to tell me that anon, I'm a Symphogear fan.
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>>5395511
They'll work on the Animal Combiners later, probably after they figure out how to reuse their molds since it's way more difficult than with the vehicles.
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>>5395511
>G2 recolors go right into the trash where they belong with those garish color schemes

You need to put a fucking bullet in your brain right now

Fuck you to death you prancing faggot fucker
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>>5395502
>which is the worst thing that could have happened.

Why?
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>>5395536
Because TRU is overpriced and it also means you can't buy a combiner piece by piece to soften the blow of buying a $100 set.
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This is the whole thing that drives me crazy that supposedly a new take on a character prevents you from ever going back and reading/enjoy old fiction about said character. Games or comics or movies, doesn't matter. Gone Home doesn't erase Crono Trigger, MTMTE didn't erase G1, the new TMNT doesn't negate the 90's movies. If you don't like the new shit go back and read/watch/enjoy the old shit.
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>>5395544
And they'll either sell out immediately, meaning you'll have to pay more to get them elsewhere, or they'll never show up in your store.

And if they shelfwarm? You might as well get them then and there, I've never seen an expensive toy in that store to drop in price, it's staying there until they chose to take them to the back and make them disappear.
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>>5395536
>>5395544

Don't forget that TRU is notorious about just not stocking things, or letting them get scalped to hell and back.
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>>5395558

Chrono Cross not only erased CT, it was a terrible game in it's own right. So that can indeed happen.

>>5395560

Given I don't have a TRU anywhere near me, as long as other outlets can get ahold of them I don't care about paying a few dollars me.
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>>5395558
This is how the nerd culture is. "Raped my childhood!" is a fucking joke. Your childhood isn't erased.
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>>5395558
I don't agree with the anti-IDW shitters, but you have to understand- while Gone Home doesn't erase Chrono Trigger, it does potentially erase the future of things like Chrono Trigger. The new Ninja Turtles takes the place of a hypothetical good Turtles movie, and will color the future of the brand.

Nor instance, we're only just now recovering from the Transformer's movie's obsession with Bumblebee.

Gone Home is a bad example, too, because people wouldn't have reacted as negatively as they did if they hadn't been told that Gone Home was "10/10 the future of video games."
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>>5395558
Except it does to a point. The most popular portrayals of a character will tend to overshadow other interpretations of the character,or other characters that share a name with them.

Like in TMNT, for example, in the cartoon Raph was the sarcastic smart aleck of the team. Ever since the movie, which drew more from the comics, he's been the angry and violent one.
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>>5395573
>mfw i never paid attention to transformers growing up
>mfw my childhood regarding tfs cannot be erased cuz i hardly gave a shit back then

>>5395579
Which movie? I remember Raph was the angry one back during Fast Forward or whatever.
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>>5395579
The 4 ninja turtles had the same personality
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>people talking about how great gay robots are aren't posting pictures of toys they bought being gay
Seems like those people are just the ones who read the comics and don't get invested in the toys.
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>>5395593
That's because the TF Fandom is split right down the middle. You're either a comic girl or a toy guy, there's very little overlap, and one side dislikes the other. Just ask the resident TF fangirl you know how many toys she own. At most she might have 4.
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>>5395573
See
>>5395576

You're being willfully dense. It doesn't destroy the old stuff, but it means no future stuff that they like will be created.
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>>5395593
Rewind isn't even out yet. And he wasn't in the recent re-issue of Blaster and Perceptor.
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>>5395601
Except that's hardly ever true. Ever. Remember people crying over prime's flames and how it raped their childhoods? Yeah. Tell me how that's changed anything but how he looks in just the movies?
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>>5395599
That's not really true on the whole. That's just here on 4chan, where /toy/ autists and /co/ tumblrinas have had it out for one another since both sides started posting in the same threads.

There are plenty of people who read the comics AND buy the toys.
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>>5395601
>childhood
>future
And you're just being stupid and ignoring the point. A change now doesn't change then.
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>>5395593

We can do both, right?

I would like to see more Anon's scenes.
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>>5395239
That's patently wrong.
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>>5395606
>somebody wants to see a movie representing what they like
>something completely different is made

It seems pretty simple to me, but then again I'm not a shitposting contrarian faggot.
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>>5395604
What about the Optimus Primes that turned into a truck that didn't have a flat front because of the movies?
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>>5395604
How many times has Optimus been a Peterbuilt since the movies?

The only reason he doesn't have flames is because people reacted so negatively. And the flames still look like shit.
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>>5395612
You. Don't. Get. It. The shows, movies, books, and comics that you enjoyed as a kid are NOT changed and still exist exactly how you remember them even after some recent thing has a change you don't like. Your childhood isn't affected. You just don't like this recent version of this character.
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>>5395616

The problem with that is the new stuff stopped following the old, and the old doesn't have new stuff being made for it. They don't want the change, they want the same character in a new series.
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>>5395613
>>5395615
Weird. Nothing in that post said anything about the truck model.
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>>5395610
I'm just saying that if they liked gay robuts so much they'd be buying the toys and make them do gay shit like I do with the fembots.
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>>5395620
Because that person is a false-flagging shitposter who claims that all influences are equal.
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>>5395620
Because you were intentionally simplifying the issue to fit your narrative
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>>5395619
But the childhood is still there. That's what they don't understand. They didn't burn all the animated TF movies in existence when the bay movies started.
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>>5395621
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>>5395616
>I can't read: the post
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>>5395621
That would mean either buying Funpub repaints or customs. Gross.
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>ITT: Defending Bayformers unironically

Nobody is this stupid, right?
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>>5395625
No. I brought up flames because I remember seeing the rage more over the flames than the truck type.
>>5395630
No. You are saying it affects the future. The childhood is not affected.
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>>5395633
ROTF was an amazing time for toys.
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>>5395633
Not a single person here is defending them.
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>>5395638
>No hands and backwards knees
Wrong.
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>>5395495
>G1
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>>5395643
ROTF ushered in the age of open hands if anything. As for the digitigrade legs, a lot of them could be made regular legs if you were so inclined(and boring).
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>>5395638
ROTF had too much of that chicken leg shit going on and awful constructicons. Its the stuff immediately after the main charactera that was good.
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>>5395643
I love the Blazemaster mold.
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>>5395589
>Which movie? I remember Raph was the angry one back during Fast Forward or whatever.

The first one, from 1990.
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>>5395648
>"Twin"cast
Idiot.
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>>5395654
>awful constructicons
Mixmaster is an under appreciated work of art.
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>>5395667
Extremely kibbley and wasn't it also built wrong and fucked with everything?
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>>5395621
>I'm just saying that if they liked gay robuts so much they'd be buying the toys and make them do gay shit like I do with the fembots.

They do. You just don't notice.

The Arcee picture you posted for example was made by those people and expropriated here.
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New thread:
>>5395704
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>>5395613
He's been doing this since g2
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>>5395599
>Just ask the resident TF fangirl you know how many toys she own. At most she might have 4.


>be female
>have over 300 transformers
>all neatly stored in a nice cabinet so no clusterfucks
>have other female friends with larger TF collections than mine
>???
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>>5395732
Unless you got in the fandom because of the IDW comics in 2012 or later, you are not the kind of person that person is speaking of but a /toy/ autist kind of person.
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>>5395737
I like both the toys and comics, guy I responded to is an idiot.
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The whole gay robots problem is just a symptom of the larger issue in Transformers of too many "male" characters.

Not that that is itself the problem but relationships, specifically romance, is a strong element of story telling and a driving force in a lot of story.

The lack of relationships and love etc for robots is a huge missing factor that really limits gow much story can be told.
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>>5395648
Did you save that picture of the headmasters from a thread a few months ago?

I remember posting the same screencap at the same second.

Also you just gotta love scale in Transformers.
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>>5396253

>defending romantic relationships
>between warbots
>in a comic that should be about warbots
>based on a cartoon/comic/toyline that IS about warbots

also

>>/co/
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i got Road Rage.
and shes pretty great, except the neck is the worst idea ever.

i dont mind the gappy backpack, but goddamn, that neck sucks.
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Fresh from Hasbro's Facebook page
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>>5397588
This is fake, right?

RIGHT???

It looks like something a shitty customizer would do.

...Please tell me I've been trolled!
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>>5397588

Trash design. That head sculpt is a killer, plus whatever is going on with the chest cavity. Just gross, man.
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>>5397588

I don't know what the fuck's going on but why is his visor so wide
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>>5397588
This is bad, m'kay.

Also, nice doubles.
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>>5397597

His head is a headmaster, like all the other guys in the line.
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Did the mod seriously wipe a bunch of posts from an autosaging thread? AGAIN?

Will that retard ever fucking learn?
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>>5397588
I think it looks fine imo. Though the visor is too big
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>>5397549
Only the Decepticons were designed for war. Autobots were designed for domestic and utilitarian purposes.
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>>5397604

Maybe if you faggots would stop making new threads the instant we hit 300 this wouldn't happen .

You don't get Karma here faggot, it's entirely unnecessary.
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>>5397588
Oh god, it looks terrible. I think the things making it look so bad are the chest piece and the visor.
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>>5397588
what the actual fuck
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>>5397617
Maybe if you stopped trying to get your rocks off deleting random shit you wouldn't end up with a bunch of duplicate threads.

God damn they really do hire mods from the bottom of the barrel in this shithole
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>>5397608

>cassette deck
>camera
>cats
>designed for war

Gotcha.
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>>5397601

Being a headmaster has nothing to do with why the eyes are so wide..
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>>5397588
That face.... He looks like he should be an SD figure or something
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>>5397588
Why would Hasbro reveal this here (on Facebook)? Why not wait for ToyFair then post this?
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>>5397641
business in the bot, party in the alt.
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>>5397593
>>5397594
>>5397597
>>5397600
>>5397607
>>5397620

Visor's a bit wide, but I've seen people thinking it's because the head is actually a helmet for the headmaster gimmick bot inside of it.

Plus didn't the original Soundwave toy have a yellow visor? But yeah, it is a bit wide. Still gonna get him though, and the Blaster. Fuck yes. Everyone knew there was gonna be a Soundwave remold from Blaster.
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>>5397641
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Quintesson

>In ages long past, a cold and emotionless race of aliens called the Quintessons created two lines of sentient robots on a planet-sized factory known asCybertron. One was a line of robots designed for domestic duties and labor (known asAutobots), and the other was a line designed for military use, (known as Decepticons).
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>>5397564
Did yours have wobbly knee joints? That's the worst problem with the one I got.
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>>5397664

kek

>>5397608

But they are fighting, yes? At war with each other?

They're all warbots.

>inb4 technically the war ended
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>>5397588
I'd wager the helmet isn't properly placed because official photographs are usually shit anyway. Otherwise.... well, it could be even further reedun, it's as G1 as I'd expect for a non-MP thing that IDW will draw.
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>>5397678
the knees are fine as long as you bend em a bit.
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>>5397671
the keywords there being

>In ages long past,

long since not the case.
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>>5397671

I'm aware of what the G1 continuity consists of, pre-IDW. I prefer that to the post-IDW "all bots are gay for each other" continuity that >>5396253 seems to be defending.
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>>5395064
stuff like that gets my conspiracy theory side going- how many of these 3rd party companies might be affiliated with Hasbro/Tomy in secret? Hasbro could kill off 3P sets by doing it "right" yet they don't so a bunch of "make it right" kits come out that cost as much as the toy itself.
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>>5397643
the leader and voyager size classes have a helmet over the head, so the heads can work with deluxe class toys.
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>>5397588
We already knew this was coming.
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>>5397682
The war did end though.

Humans fight too. Does that make us Warbeasts?
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Hey, the PE Bruticus hands do the rifle mode a bit differently from the rest. Neat.
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>>5397690
But that's not true. Are you unwell?
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>>5397713

Yes it does. Because people cannot and WILL NOT agree on every single little thing the world has to offer, war between ideas will exist.

also

>the war did end

And the IDW comic is very much worse off because of it.
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>>5397719

Explain how it isn't then.
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>>5397744
>And the IDW comic is very much worse off because of it.

Other than being the best piece of Transformers fiction...?

Seriously, what is it like to live in a Tumblr-like world of total delusion?
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>>5397755
>IDW
>best

all their books suck, not just TF
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>>5397755

So says tumblr storyline defender.

Seriously. The current storylines are DrWho-meets-feminism-meets-politics-meets-nobullyplz.

It's fucking atrocious to what Transformers WAS.
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>>5397760
I always love hearing the opinions of someone who has no clue what they're talking about.

Tell the truth. Have you ever read a comic in your life?
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>>5397770
>I'm too young to remember Star Trek

o i am laffin
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>>5397774

>get the last word in: the post
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I'm hoping to find CW Swindle and Brawl soon because I always liked those two
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>>5397588
This is kinda depressing.

But I was planning on transitioning over to Masterpiece where possible anyway, so despite waiting 10 years to get a Soundwave, I'm just going to go for the Masterpiece version when they inevitably rerelease it.
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>>5397794
Yep you sure did it kiddo
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>>5397669
>>5397669
The visor is wide because of the headmaster, tho.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-titans-return-leader-soundwave-digital-renderings-and-art/34524/
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>>5397852
brainstorm didn't look like shit
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>>5397862

Looking at the other pics he looks better.

Also a nice, cheaper alternative for a CHUG Soundwave over getting your wallet raped by the MP.
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>>5397875
The MP would have been fine pricewise if Hasbro had made more than 4 of them. I had to stay up all night to preorder mine at 4AM on the day of release, and they sold out within 30 minutes.

There were people who did the same thing, but had all their friends and family buy them so they could scalp them. Hasbro needs to get this shit under control.
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>>5397887

Theres not much you can do to control it other than limiting 1 per customer, but that fails when some asshole gets his family/friends to buy them for him, and then sells them for 2x-4x the price each.

They either just need to make more, tons more, or do some sort of on-demand system where they make shit per order.
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>>5397760
>all their books suck, not just TF
Get fucked.
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>>5397588
>mfw people will defend this
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>>5397588
>
i'd get it if it was a voyager....maybe if rumble and ravage are decent
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