Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

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First for Orks and fuck Rand.

1st for Forge World Metalica! Search and Destroy!

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3rd for the old school

>>55397110
But anon 40k is clearly an endorsement for ancaps, look how all the factions utilize the state to oppress!

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>>55397161
STOP

>>55397161
fuck off

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>>55397186
Mea culpa. I'll keep it out of this thread.

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>>55397203
Thank you, Anon.

Reminder that you can summon after disembarking from a transport, and this will help to keep daemons competitive without resorting to magnus spam.

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>>55397225

Has the DG codex leaked?

>>55397282
there are video reviews out, but not a full scan.

>>55397144
Was the game balanced back then?

>>55397144

Man those Fire Dragon paintjobs are as bad as /tg/ stuff.

>>55397310
Define balanced.

>>55397324
Where my tactical marines aren't useless.

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Lets talk terminators, you know them, you love them

What's your favorite type to use? What weapons do you equip them with?

Deep strike or land raider?

>>55397330
Tactical Marines have never been good except for in 7th edition thanks to battle company.

>>55397330
Tac marines were not useless.

>>55397003
Share lore please
>hope that the T'au represent and bring to the galaxy
lel
Tau is nobledark now

>>55397332

LC Tartaros, deep strike. I like all three types, but Cataphractii is too slow to actually use their rules.

Having enjoyed 8th more than 7th, I feel like now that the new toy syndrome has worn off, I'm having trouble believing that the game is actually good or fun. Tell me TG, is the game actually good/fun? Why or why not?

>>55397349
>TG
stop
>is the game actually good/fun?
It's better than it was, that's for sure.

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>>55397345
THIS MAN GETS IT

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>>55397365

>>55397332
Indomitus for life. I play Deathwing and Grey Knights so I give my Deathwing sergeants hammers and the rest of them an assortment of a heavy weapon, lightning claws and power fist. Grey Knights take falchions and halberds because those are the only two weapons worth taking. Paladin squad Paragons get hammers.

Fuck the gay ass new marks of Terminator armor 2bh

>Play Night Lords in HH
>run terror assault
>Have 30 Volkite dudes
>HH is kill
>time for 40k
>Still have 30 Volkite dudes
What the fuck do I do with 30 Volkite dudes in 40k?

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>>55397349
I've been having fun with it, everyone else I've played with is having fun with it

Every match I've played so far has been very close which tells me that balance has been improved immensely, yeah sure theres always those WAAC dipshits trying to play broken lists for the sake of winning, but you shouldn't be playing them anyways

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>>55397349
8E is a bit too bland to be as fun as 7E. The problem is 7E was too broken to be fun period. So once the new toy factor has worn off, 8E seems a bit boring and the units less unique. This is why you sometimes get random faggots saying 7E was better, because they had a specific group of people they were close with to play 7E in a way that was actually fun. Most normal people couldn't have fun in 7E because the average 40k player is a complete faggot.

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>>55397332
Bulldog helmets are the way to go, though the other two marks have their charm

Magnetized my termies so I can use them for multiple strategies, glad I stuck with using space wolves rules for my custom chapter, the flexibility in their terminators makes them a very fun unit to use

I'm probably going to pick up more to possibly run a terminator heavy list once I get tired of playing dreadnought lists (if ever)

How are spartans nowadays for hauling around 10+ terminators

>>55397349
8e has a better rules framework than 7e. However, it isn't doing anything interesting with those rules. Everything is homogenized into roughly the same stats, so all the factions start to feel very samey.

It isn't a fatal blow to 8th. GW could still fix it with the codex releases. But of the codexes released so far, nothing has been particularly stand-out interesting. They're virtual copy/pastes of the indexes, with 4 pages of rules tacked on.

So most people don't have high hopes for the factions being fun. 8th edition is the league of legends of wargaming, and we could have gotten dota instead.

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>>55397410

I see you also have the cool HK CML conversion. Why is it always the SW players who do it though

>>55397342
No, don't post spoilers. My codex haven't arrived yet.

>>55397431
Are you ready for your faction to get to ignore cover and reroll wounds to buildings?

>>55397429
>Wolf dick out of nowhere

>>55397423
Most of the big flavor seems to be in stratagems. Though the problem with that is that you're using those only a fairly limited amount of times per match.

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>>55397429
because the space wolves terminator set comes with every weapon they can equip except the cyclone

and combi weapons but at the time no kits outside of the standard captain set had them

>>55397450
Man, I miss the old carnifex.

>>55397451
I knew there had to be a reason it was such a specific thing. I bet a lot of old BT terminator models had converted launchers too when they could take more than 1 per 5 but the box only came with 1.

>>55397438
that and a lot of the stratagems are being repeated, or given to new factions with very minor variations.

Today's lucius reveal has me even more scared that we're going to get a subfaction with +1 defensive bonus and a stratagem that lets them deploy units 9 inches away from the enemies in every codex.

So far, AL, RG, and Lucius have gotten that pattern.

Other stratagems also seem samey. It looks like we're going to get a shoot twice or fight twice stratagem in every codex. A 3 tanks unite for a super shot in every codex. etc, etc.

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>>55397410
fuck a spartan, go full viking longboat with a mastodon

you could fit TWENTY terminators in the damn thing

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>>55397485
Guy at my LGS has one of these with a bunch of viking shields lined up along that angled bit of the hull on the sides like a longship. Good shit.

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>Lucius drowned in an ocean
>blown up by land mines
>thrown into space
>deaths with no clear killer
>Lucius always comes back

So basically Lucius is unkillable except for the condition that Slaanesh placed on his gift/curse. Lucuis can only be killed by a being whose heart is filled with nothing but mercy and compassion.

Can you guys give me guesses who can that be?

>>55397330
Some of the best tournament armies all had a large core of tactical marines and Razorbacks/rhinos.

It was a far more balanced game back then. No stupid Lord of War units, no horde of special characters, even the ones that existed needed express permission to use. A smaller, tighter and more well balanced selection of units with little in the way of anything totally game dominating. No real broken combos. No flyers. No broken psychic phase. You had to actually use a mixed arms approach when building lists and running more than 1 basilisk was seen as kinda cheesy because that's about as powerful it got.

Better days. Sadly GW realised the community has no self control and would jump onto any obviously overpowered crap to win games even if this wasn't in the spirit of the game and now here we are where running a primarch , a near titan and a gunship with a million shots is seen as a normal game.

>>55397431
Ignore this fool

My FLGS is run by some asians. I like to ask questions about 40k because it's funny to see the guy shill with his accent.

>yes da new edition is verry baranced
>space-a marine verry popurar
>brud angers

>>55397513
I, CATO SICARIUS

>>55397485
believe me the thought has crossed my mind, damn though the thing is expensive and theres no way you could make any list with that thing AND terminators that would do well so you'd have to get one with the sole intention of playing things like apocalypse

>>55397501
If you could get pictures of it that would be greatly appreciated, I'm walking into a tournament this Sunday and if by the miracle of modern dice rolling I win, the prize money would allow me to afford one and I could use some inspiration

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>>55397513
>multiple Emperor's children short stories and novels that have been released or will be released

EC confirmed for getting a new codex?

>>55397513
Doesn't matter
Muh Chaos can't lose in any manner or shape

>>55397521
I don't fucking get why chinks don't learn how to speak with proper accents. Is it really that hard, learning how to switch accents based on social context?
t. chink

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>>55397528
Ihope so. Slaanesh needs some love.

>>55397534
Maybe because speech pathology is a little more complex than "git gud faggot"

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>>55397538

>>55397534
They literally don't have an L sound in their language, and its all muscle memory.

>>55397534
You ABC or what.

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>>55397552

Yes they do you dumbass gwai lo. It's the Japanese who don't have R and V sounds in their language.

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>>55397525
>THE UNDYING: I am the Undying, I am doom incarnate...

>He towered over me, this monster of living metal. He wore a crown with a red gemstone, torcs banded his mechanised arms and an azure pectoral hung around his neck. These were royal trappings. Here I fought a king of the dead, a robotic anachronism of an old and conceited cultured, full of darkest anima. Necrons they were called. His regal status only spurred me on.

>SICARIUS: We are the slayers of kings!

>I spat the words in anger at the gilded monster before me.

>He and I, we fought alone. None interfered. I had drawn only my sword, and would engage it thusly. For my victory to have any meaning, this was how it had to be. Even terms, his crackling war-scythe matched against my venerable Tempest Blade. But in the end, it was not my sword that was found wanting...

>After a savage duel, he cut me deeply. No foe had ever done that before. And with blood filling my mouth, I fell. I, Cato Sicarius, Master of the Watch, Knight Champion of Macragge, Grand Duke of Talassar and High Suzerain of Ultramar, fell. And as the veil of darkness wrapped around me like a funerary shroud, I heard the monster’s words again...

>THE UNDYING: I am doom

-Veil of Darkness

>mfw "I, CATO SICARIUS" is actually canon

>>55397547
That's what I did though.
>>55397556
Nah. I was born and raised in Asia, only been to America two times. The fact that I can speak in clear english and chinese without really trying makes me wonder why others can't though.

>>55397513
Slaanesh is the god thats least likely to abide to any restriction set by itself, Lucius will always come back to life as long as he pleases Slaanesh.

>>55397528
>>55397542
>There will never be a slaanesh codex with a heavy theme of leadership penalties, full of unique debuffs and ways to punish low leadership
>If we do get anything it will be bog standard noise weapons on everything and nothing truly cool.

>>55397547
>>55397552

Not that guy, but it's just learning to move your lips and tongue appropriately. You just have to know the mechanics that produce the sound.

>>55397552
That's objectively false. You're confusing us with nip nong japs.

>>55397569

I can speak foreign languages without the stereotypical American accent just by copying the way native speakers make their inflections. I always figured it was because English was just more varied of a language or something but I don't know, maybe most people are just fucking reatrds.

>>55397528
Why doesn't he clone himself a new head of hair?

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>>55397578
>tfw can't roll my R's

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>>55397332
Love Tartaros the most, especially the scarab occult. Haven't finished painting mine yet so I haven't used them on tabletop though. Also not quite sure how exactly I should kit out the squad yet, though it's relatively fine since I paint the parts before full assembly.
Speaking of which, I kinda want to equip my scarab occult squad with one hellfyre missile rack and a heavy warpflamer, is that a decent loadout? Is equipping both onto one guy just a meme, and should I do it or not? Which way looks cooler?

>>55397581
Same. I pretty much just learnt my american accent from copying TV.

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>>55397569
Maybe it's autism. Would explain your inability to understand different people have different ability to learn and utilize langauge.

>>55397613
Well no shit different people have different capabilities with language. But that doesn't mean you can't try to not sound like a dumbass first generation immigrant does it?

>>55397628
In America people are, generally speaking, more accepting of people having foreign accents than in most other countries. Or at least that's what I've found. I think they hear English spoken by so many non-native speakers that they've just gotten used to it.

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>>55397331
Hearty kek anon.

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>>55397604

>>55397694
>those dick cannon
Gork bless

>>55397659
That coupled with the fact that there aremany regional dialects and accents has kind of created a national culture where if you're the kind of person who cares too much about "proper English" you kind of come off as a cunt

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>>55397702
>hey git, wanna see me snapper?

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>>55397681
>For der Führer

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>>55397735
>those dildo bayonet
Kek

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>>55397735

>>55397225
Except you can't. I play chaos. Wish you could. You cannot.

>>55397659

AAAAAY I'M WALKIN HEAAAAH

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>>55397493

>>55397742
They give +1str in the sexual assault phase

>>55397604
Those orks appear to be thoroughly unimpressed.

>>55397604
Man I really miss the little dioramas like this that they used to have in store windows

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what's a good combo for deathshroud termis? only mortarion?

>>55397772
Should cunningly lure them into close combat to demonstrate the superiority of human genes.

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>>55397772
>tfw you're just trying to walk your hair squig and some stunties in a hole start shooting at you.

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>>55397786
>54 bolter shots to kill a terminator
fuck

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>>55397781
Not 40k but heres another one.

>>55397203
What'd you post?

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>>55397805

>>55397786
There is no combo. Only Primarchs.
This is the 40k you paid for

>>55397811
>But bolters and lasguns can kill anything!

>>55397829
I posted a paper from an economics journal that I thought would help clarify something I was trying to explain during the last thread's derailment.

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>>55397831

>>55397591
Anybody?

Would you have any problem with a mars ad mech army with different colors? (Even Cawl)

I'm starting my ad mech army and I'm going to paint them yellow but I still want the bonuses of the forgeworlds.

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>>55397852
>8th edition
>WAAC paintjobs
one way to stomp grey tide

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>>55397528
This along with Fulgrim popping up multiple times in the lore, there has to be an EC codex dropping sometime next year. Fulgrim most definitely the next daemon primarch to get released

>>55397852
There are only 7 forge world rules, there are thousands of forge worlds, you do the math.

>>55397852
M8, I'm in the same boat. My skittles are blue, and right now I have no idea what FW I'm going to choose.

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>>55397848
I don't know what a good loadout is, because I don't play tsons, but I think that equipping both weapons on one model is fine because you can split fire the guns. If the model had to elect who to shoot at then it would be bad, because those weapons don't have overlap in what they want to be shooting at, but since they can split up their targets putting them on one model gives the most powerful model in your unit more effective wounds before it has to be removed from the table.

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>>55397874

>>55397852
The rules you use are in no way tied to how you've painted your units.

>>55397873
Just try different ones each time you play.

>>55397852
Choose to paint your dudes however you like, just don't try to pass off using Cawl as part of a different forgeworld.

Whats the worst cheating you guys have encountered in your LGS?
Weve had this guy routinely try to slip like 300 to 400 points extra into his lists every fucking game. Says his maths is bad because he's dyslexic. This same guy when asked to make armor saves always tries to roll less than required. We found him playing one of the newer players with almost 3200 points vs 2000

>>55397873
I still only have half army so depending on the changes in the units I'll pick the one that suits me better. The teleport stratagem from yesterday makes the electropriests very interesting.

>>55397852

>have paint scheme
>GW releases rules for paint scheme
>other paint scheme is better
>h-heh my guys are totally a sub faction of <better paint scheme> guys

Fuck WAACfags

>>55397868
>implying GW won't drop a surprise WE codex and angron first
Come on anon. Business 101, give the people what they want. And angron is what a majority of people want.

>>55397884
I'm not passing Cawl as a different forgeworld, he is mars, my army is mars, but instead of red I painted them yellow (including Cawl).

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>>55397878

>>55397893
But isn't giving people what they want a Slaaneshi thing?

>>55397899
That is 100% okay in all circumstances.

>>55397893
I'm sick of Khorne oversaturation and even I want Angron before Fulgrim.

>>55397885
There's a chap at my local GW who regularly forgets to point units. Worst game I've ever played slow as hell and regularly misremembering rules. No, a Baneblade lascannon sponson is not Heavy 2, nor can some random Command Squad Guardsman buy ML2 without actually getting a Primaris Psyker. He was also closer to 2250 pts in a 1.5k game, which I only spotted when I did the battle report on here and anons mentioned that he seemed to have a lot of stuff. Still just won, which meant mega smug mode after I was told he was cheating, though.

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>>55397383
Lament poor purchases you made while playing in an elitist game that now do you no good?

>>55397786
>toughest faction's elite termies have less wounds than Paladins
lmao

>>55397885
If he were honest about making math errors he would be as likely to be under as over.

>>55397331
I'd say "at least they let you post here still" but, honestly, this is kinda just another prison.

>>55397485
500 dollarydoos

>>55397938
Exactly the problem. Guys a jackass, we put up with him since he owns like 80% of the shops terrain

So I'm looking to get into 40k and after some research I've settled on daemons. I know they're pretty trash right now but meh, I think they're cool. So my question is, if I'm planning to run all 4 gods, what would be the best way to start? One of the start collectings? All 4 of them? or something else.

>>55397513
i can see saint celestine killing him and still feeling pitty for the life he has suffered thru.

>>55397935
Both take an average of 54 bolter shots to kill, nurgle termies are worse vs reaper autocannon and their S7 D2, but are better against missile launchers and lascannon, since the 3.5 average damage is just 1.5 wasted damage on a nurgle termie and S8-9 only wound on a 3+ vs T5.

>>55397933
>poor purchases
I paid like $30 for all my Volkite and less than $130 total for two Calth boxes, so you know, whatever. I'm just wondering what would make good counts as in 40k and if it's even worth running.

>>55397922
"Sure i know what each guy has and the stats for the units and their points"
The usual shit about not having a list written up pisses me off.

>>55397951
I can't even imagine how annoying that must be. Luckily I've never caught anyone cheating against me, or at least not that severely. Sometimes I give the side-eye at people who reroll dice because they "fell out of their hand" as though that's not exactly what rolling the dice is, but as far as cheating goes I'd call that rather minor.

Nurgle here, how do I deal with hive guard behind a thousand gants and a tervimama?

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>>55397949
400 dollary doos actually, thanks Brexit

with the money saved you could buy 10 terminators to go with it

>>55397885
Some guy playing battle sisters. I never played against that army so I didn't know shit about the army at that moment.

First he said the exorcist had power of the machine spirit so he was hitting on 3s even after moving. Then he had 5 inferno pistols in his seraphim squad (he can only carry 4).

He said a canoness was part of a squad and he was basically doing 4++ saves of that squad and if it failed he would remove a bolter model of the unit.

That was one if my first games in 8th ( I returned on 8th after 15 years without playing).

PS: He also tried to do acts of faith with EVERY single unit he had. Another player that was around caught him in time.

>>55397955
It depends

I would recommend deciding which god you prefer above the others, or better yet which god's servants you'd like to build and paint first and go with their respective starter set

>>55397971
If its legit a dropped dice i dont mind. Like if they have to make 10 rolls and one falls out of their hand its cool, bit if you have to make an invuln save or you character dies then no im calling bs on it

>>55397852
I know that problem. Painted mine purple and gold.

Fluffed then as being all high and lofty due to the real life elitism of the colour purple: so I might run them as mars.

But I also fluffed them as being high and mighty, despite having lost tons of their relics and equipment in a cataclysm and their bluster is just them clawing at former glory.
- thought Lucius might represent that better as the stuff they have got left they're making sue run to maximum capacity.

>>55397955
They're not as meh as you might think. I know I saw a few lists on bloodofkittens that were in tournament top 3's, so there's something there to be competitive with. I will say that I think they're more suited to playing the mission than tabling your opponent.

Normally the start playing is a good deal because it has a little bit of everything an army might need, and it's priced at a discount, but if you want to use each of the gods that will cut into the price efficiency of those boxes, because they'll contain units that you might not want to use. I would recommend getting an idea of what you want to use as your basic troops and then buy the box for that god.

>>55397989
>Like if they have to make 10 rolls and one falls out of their hand

Man am I the only one who would let that die result stay? Who the fuck cares it's a game.

>>55397989
I know it's my autism, which is why I don't actually say anything out loud, but how is the dice slipping out of their hand any different from just rolling the dice? Unless somehow they need to roll it a special way for it to be suitably random, in which case I'm going to take serious issue with their dice.

>>55397885
some guy playing tau says he is not very good and he is making a new list.

His stealth suits were using 2 weapons when he can only carry 1.

The best part is when he deploys his crisis suits and tells me that he has 3 pulse blastcannon in each (a kv128 stormsurge weapon). The moment he told me they are strength 14 I noped and told him he couldn't do that.

He started saying he didn't know how to make a list but another player came and said he had won a tournament a few months ago in another city.

>>55397562
Japanese have R, but no L. Chinese have L but no R.

>>55397922
what army did you use to win against IG?

>>55398036
>Japanese have R, but no L
They make no distinction and the Tokyo accent ventures closer to R than L, which is what you're used to hearing.

So with dg getting bonus rapid fire range is it better to spam bolters or plasma?

>>55398036
The latter is false. Chinese have Rs in their language.

>>55398009
Its mainly the problem that if they drop a dice and the result is good for them, they tend to go "sweet ill keep that" but if they fail the roll its "oops dropped dice, need to roll it properly" it just pisses me off desu

>>55398067
This. This is the issue, it's people giving themselves an easy excuse for a free reroll.

>>55398023
Had a tau player spend 15 minutes arguing with the wording on the new deepstrike rules as its "more than 9 inches away" he wanted to deepstrike in commanders with fusion blasters so they were in melta range. He properly dragged two other players over from their games to try and say hes right

>>55397971
>>55397989
>>55398009
>>55398017
>>55398067
>>55398078
For me at least I always reroll if I drop it no matter the result. Keeps it fair.

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>>55398083

>>55398082
That is unnecessary since the dice has already been rolled, but if we played I would object. Fair play is the priority.

>>55398023
Sounds like he is dumb. Clearly states what Crisis weapons are on a page, he might also be list building with a handful of datasheets and no one to point things out.
I wish I could slap on 3 blastcannons onto my deepstrikers

>>55398105
>but if we played I would object.
meant to say that I would *not* object.

>>55398079
had the same problem with another player that said you only need an 8 to charge after deep strike. I had to pick pen and paper to explain to him what is more than 9 inches and how you can't be closer than 1" if you roll an 8.

>>55398082
Aye, sometimes its a fair play kind of thing, especially in friendly games with people you know. Absolutely no problem with it then. Its when people start trying that shit at tournaments and shit that i take issue

>>55398063
I had several Chinese friends who couldn't pronounce an R in English, which was bizarre as they were obviously capable of pronouncing 人

>>55398105
That only happens when I roll in groups and I don't count the roll if it occured outside of the group. They have to be rolled in one go (or two gos or more depending on how many dice I have to roll) in order for it to count. That's how I do it at least.

>>55397875
Hmm, alright.Thanks anon. Aesthetically, do you think the missile rack would look better on a flamer termi or a bolter termi?

Does anyone else think it's weird that units that fail a charge don't move at all? That's always bothered me.

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How long does it usually take for this bullshit to become available again?

>>55398133
That's a question to ask yourself, they're *your* dudes.

>>55398145
SQUATTED
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A
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>spilt all my earthshade on the kitchen counter
fug

>>55398145
>>55398150
Space tomb kings following the path of the original tomb kings

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Do you think ash waste nomads will come back with Necromunda?

>>55398173
>gorkamorka - humie edition

>>55398083
Xenonia plastics when?

>>55398138
Ive always felt they should move whatever they rolled on the charge

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>>55398147
You're right, dunno what I was thinking there. Thanks again anon.

>>55398184
I'd prefer Dneipr plastics personally.

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>>55398145
new warriors when?

>>55397332
Cataphractii and Indomitus. Tartaros is an egg with legs OC donut steel.

>>55398138
Sort of. Overwatch happens first so I guess you could rationalize it as weight of fire keeping them from advancing.

>>55397577
>leadership shit

Probably one of the most boring special rules you can get for an army. Doesn't even fit EC's theme at all.

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Given what DG got as their trait and the idea behind it, what do you think TS will be getting?

>>55398255
Shafted
Again

>>55398264
this

>>55398255
ignores cover, reroll to-wound against buildings [spioler]:^)[/spoiler]

>>55398186
It made more sense for units to not move when it would pull them out of cover in previous editions, but now that cover is less of an integral part of every game it's so such a game design concern.

>>55398255
Same one as GKs.

>>55398255
+1 to smite against buildings in cover, and ignore ap-1 when deployed over 9" away

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>>55398269
>spioler
I've brought shame on my family.

>>55397786
>75(?) points for a 2 wound model

I'll pass thanks.

>>55398273
Anti daemon stuff? What?

>>55398286
>buildings in cover
lmao

>>55398301
GK's chapter tactic is +1 to psychic and deny. The daemon reroll to wound is a rule they have irregardless of detachment.

>>55398308
>irregardless

>>55398308
Oh yeah, forgot about that stuff.
I feel like it'd be incredibly lazy and boring just to copy the GKs trait though, rather than giving TSs something more fitting/fluffy though I dunno what would be best for them

>>55398145
It's just repackaging for the new edition. They will be back in a couple of weeks.

>>55398082
I've had opponents agree to this then still bitch about it if they see the outcome of an off-table roll that's beneficial to them. I'm talking real bitching, not the cheerful sarcasm of a good sport.

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N-Nani?!

Ok 40kgen, I keep seeing the term "Donut Steel" and I have no fucking clue what that's about. Would anyone please explain?

>>55398202

I don't think we will get new warriors, but there is a rumour that we are getting plastic flayed ones.

>>55398355
Play on the words "Do not steal". Normally used as a mocking term for people who create their own chapters and stuff, in reference to people on DeviantArt who created sonic characters and the like.

>>55398349
Good. Squat Chaos.

>>55398325
>power at any price
>you can roll three dice when making psychic use the two highest buy any double on those two causes a perils

>>55398365
Ah, makes sense now. Thank you

>>55398367
Try learning proper english next time

>>55398381
That's not a very diverse and inclusive thing to say.
What would mama Merkel think?

>>55397384
That is pretty sexy

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>>55398414
shiiiiiiiiiiieeet

>>55398421
There's more churches per capita in the US than in Poland.

>>55398430
The joke is about stereotypes. Americans are more stereotypically linked to burgers than churches.

>>55397885

I think the worst I've experienced isn't the obvious kind, like the clearly deranged kid who insisted his one shield drone gave his entire fire warrior squad a 4+ ivun among other crap.

No it's WAAC players who act like they are authorities on the rules and then try to bullshit that you can't do this or that because of x or y interpretation of an FAQ ( obviously after you've made the 'mistake' ) then when you get sick of it and actually point out they're wrong they back track and suddenly joke about how 'silly and complicated' the game is like they didn't know what they were doing all along.

>>55398325
Prevent enemy rerolling to hit against them because they see future shit better. Smite deals an extra wound for each mortal wound at ap-2.

>Basecoated a bunch of models
>Life got in the way
>Now they're all dust covered from standing on my shelf for a long time

So how do I clean dust covered models?
Like really dusty.
Canned air probably wouldn't work and I feel like water might lead to dust gathering in the recesses.

>>55398421
The german thing is bullshit.

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>>55397225
Reminder that you're still wrong

Are tactical squads completely useless? Should I just build a first company army instead?

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>>55398332
What are they being repacked with? Will they have a data sheet in the box?

>>55398488
not that guy why you say this?

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Anyone got any good Keeper of Secrets proxy suggestions?

>>55398506
Yes, GW has said they're putting data sheets in the boxes now. Though IIRC they are only partial data sheets and you'll need codexes/indexes to get the full sheets.

>>55397225
Have you submitted it for FAQ?

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Any news on Cyraxus?
I'm still hoping that these guys will be troops so I can play my 30k cybernetica army with some real people for a change

>>55397225
"Note though, that even if you don't move disembarking units further in your Movement phase, they still count as having moved for any rules purposes, such as shooting Heavy weapons (pg 180)."

Daemonic ritual is "Instead of moving in their Movement phase..."


You can houserule it however you like though.

>>55397513
Vulcan, duh

>>55397811

>Surely that can't be right

>2 wounds, 2+ save, so 12 wounds have to be caused. But 1/3rd are saved from DR, so you need to cause 3 unsaved wounds, so that's 18 wounds to cause. Bolters wound on 5+, so you need 54 hits. At BS3+ you need 72 shots fired to kill one Terminator.

Well fuck, you're right.

>>55398466
Get a big, stiff brush and give em a once over. If they're still dusty after that, wash em and do it again.

>>55398519
Guessing early 2018, given AdMech will be out finally.

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>>55398526
>All of my friends have Deathguard armies
>They told me all about how they are gonna get Mortarion and Shroud Terminators, run them in every game

WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?!

>>55398519
Most people are saying not until after the Tau codex is also released. So early to mid 2018 at best.

>>55398527
Thanks!

>>55398539
You were Stalin in a past life probably

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>>55397332
The saturnine.

>>55397786
Typhus?

>>55398438
It makes sense that successful food chains would have denser coverage. What is baffling is how some countries have THAT many churches. What is the point of having a church on literally every block when one building has enough capacity to service multiple blocks, and is only really used once a week?

>>55398539
>WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS?!
You play tau, Rowboat or Magnus in every list?

>>55398589
I play Cultists and Slaanesh daemons. Eighty cultists is probably cancer but they don't mean much when my opponent doesn't die to autoguns and kill me before I reach combat.

Who to play for a complete newfag?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTDrFc7BrqI&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=QCkNCCsr92g4l5JH-6

new video

poxwalkers

memes

30s long

>>55398526
So don't shoot terminators with boltguns? Plasma easily frys them up nicely and they can't actually threaten you with anything relevant.

Morts a dick granted but you either just don't play against Primarchs because they're stupid in games that aren't 3k+ or run your own or equivalent guess.

>>55398601
The force you like the look of the most.

Go on to the GW website and just look at all the factions and pick up a starter kit for the one you like the most.

>>55398601
Do you like any of the factions?

>>55398539
Please tell me you play Necrons? That would make this fuckery so much worse.

>>55398615
>>55398611
Flashlight brigade, but I hear that they're pretty difficult for nubs

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>>55398607

We need more Ork lore.
So many cool background warbosses that are just veneer thin but with huge potential.
Like the Arch-Maniac of Calverna, who plugged himself into a forge worlds central system essentially making him a planet sized Cybork (and madder than Grotsnik with sunstroke).

>>55398601
I hear that space marines are pretty popular. Try them.

>>55398607
What did Bert do to suffer such fate?

>>55398487
Unfortunately friendo, you are a dumb

>>55398607

This is good shit. I'm pretty excited for the app.

>>55398625
Guard? They're not difficult, you just may have to end up painting a lot of boots if you take a lot of infantry.

>>55398601
Space marines are easy mode. Just buy Guilliman from a discount store, get a cheap space marine librarian model for psychic defence and smite then buy like 10 5 man squads of hellblasters off of ebay for like a tenner each and you have around a 100 PL/2k list you should be able to crush even experienced players with all your plasma death ( and make them come here to cry about it)

You can also swap out 4 squads of hellblasters for two storm ravens to really induce rage.

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>>55398607

>>55398657
Seriousness question. Are Hellblasters actually good? I've never used them, or seen anyone else use them....

>>55398678
They can do pretty good damage against any infantry the fire at, at the same time though they also draw a lot of fire themselves.

>>55398513
Pincer demon from creature caster is the best "goat head slaanesh" type model. They make some sexy ones too but not enough tits or eyenipples.

>>55398539
Blightlords are cheaper and just as resillient.

>>55398678
Yeah they are in regular competitive games at least, a squad of 5 can strip down a tank fairly easily with re-roll support. The -4 AP actually makes a pretty big difference in preventing help from cover and those lucky 6+ saves. You do need a way to protect them, which at the moment is sadly only Repulsor Tanks, or to just spam them out to get maximum WAAC from them.

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Working on a Custodes Venerable Land Raider.

Any thoughts on what to add?

Going to be painted gold and red with black accents, obviously.

>>55398703
Yeah, but they dont get 3 str 8 ap -3 Dam 3 attacks each.

>>55398678
They're solid. They really want a Captain nearby if you're relying on them for anti-tank duties so they can overcharge for the extra damage, but for just mowing down MEQs they're fine.

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I am going to turn my Chaos dudes to the best legion around so...

I want my Alpha dudes to have some nice, theme related, baroque armor like pic related. What would be some good suggestions for conversion bits that have them proper theme?

I could use Salamander stuff but the flames takes away from it all I think......

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Motivate me to finish basing my Relictors and assembling my Inceptors for my OC chapter anons

>>55398776
The dark vengance kit might work. other wise marine vets look bling'd

>>55398748
looks pretty nice already, just clean up some of the glued on bits and it should be good to go

id also consider popping off that top hatch and putting on the standard land raider hatch to attach the storm bolter to but thats just me

I think what youve got though will look real nice when painted up

>>55398584
Village rivalries. "village A has a church? We will show them by building a better church, village B!"

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>>55397513
Sanguinius

>>55398818
I'm a billion times more pious than thou art.

Do I get a matte black or gloss black primer?

>>55397110
Warboss Power Klaw, Attack Squig, Kombi-Skorcha 99
Weirdboy 62
Slugga Boyz x21 Big Choppa 135
Shoota Boyz x20 Big Shoota x2 132
Gretchin x10 30
Nobz x8 Power Klaw, Power Stabba x7 182
Tankbustas x6 102
Painboy Power Klaw 65
Deffkopta x3 249
Deffkopta x3 249
Stormboyz x10 Big Choppa 89
Morkanaut Kustom Force Field 374
Deff Dread Klaw x4 149
Trukk Big Shoota 82

Battalion 2000pts (87) 1999

That's my 2000pts of Orks. Is it playable? I don't care if it's 10/10 or whatever but I don't want to get tabled in turn 2 every game.

>>55398856
matte

>>55398584

>only used once a week

Protestant detected

There's Saturday vigils/vespers, Wednesday services during lent, mass/liturgy on holy days and for saints, Eucharistic adoration, and plenty of other functions that occur all week (in Catholicism and Orthodoxy, anyways)

>>55398857
Needs more.boyz. 2 30 man squads at least .

>>55398584
>>55398818
>>55398832

Fucking Norwich took this to the extreme, the place has basically a church in every street.

>>55398857
You should have 3 blobs of boyz and 3x10 stormboyz with Zagstruk and weird boy honestly. That makes a great core for an ork army.

>>55398856
If it's gloss it's not primer, No matter what lies they print on the can, its a pain+sealer combo.
Using it makes your minis unpaintable, and largely unsalvagable and unsellable.
Like leaving a corpse to go runny in your car.

>>55399046

It does exist. It's used for Vallejo's Metal Color system since they claim the gloss black helps bring out the metallic sheen better. They also claim it's an actual primer and self-levels and has durability like their non-gloss primers, but I still wouldn't use a gloss primer for anything since it has no tooth and I wouldn't trust other brands' gloss primer.

http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/en_US/metal-color/family/33

So what could work for a Guard strat? I know that numbers is king, but I'm sort of thinking alternative memes to CONSCRIPT SPAM

Is there anyone who does good text battle reports nowadays?

>>55398879
I guess I could cut one squad of deffkoptas to get more boyz. I still have bothered scouring ebay for them so eh.

>>55398947
How am I supposed to fit that in there? I would have to remove half the army.

>>55398039
This was slightly before Fall of Cadia, in 7e so Guard weren't anywhere near their current strength. My Admech weren't exactly optimised either, but he had a Baneblade and a Knight to no Lords of War for me as well as 50% more points. I only managed to win thanks to Haywire Spam Supremo AKA Breacher squads killing his Baneblade Turn 1 and blowing up nothing in particular despite scattering near my lines. His target priority was atrocious, he fired literally everything at my two Kastelans and managed to kill them but not the Datasmith so no First Blood. If he'd shot sensibly I probably would have been tabled pretty quickly.

>>55399094
Those seem to be a dying breed. Which is understandable, since good writing skills is also a dying skill in the #hashtag Twitter social media age.

>>55399085
I would say Baneblades but a Chaos anon gave a sitrep where his all comers list killed one and won the game by 6 points in a tac-obj game a couple of threads ago.
He was using the awful 8e Renegades and Heretics too so I guess lords of war just can't deal with numbers as well as they used to.
Maybe try a guard all comers, some melee dudes in a transport, some basilisks, psyker hq, snipers, anti-tank stormtroopers?

>>55399085
Rly depends on what regiment you have.

you can go fo armored infabtry and get everyone a chimera with bunch of sentinels. you can go tank heavy. I might be wrong but guard had and should still have ton of options.

Hmm, are there any cheaper conversion alternatives to Electropriests? Still needs to be GW parts because my local store is a GW sadly, but yeah they're basically a horde unit that comes in boxes of 5, so even with a 25% online discount a full size unit of each variety would come to £150.

>>55398584
Not only was it a thing of prestige, but it was socially important. Very important. Church was where most of your socializing was done, especially in small farming towns where you spent your day working and houses might be half a km from each-other with no good roads. When there was a celebration, it was at the church. Funerals? At the church. Need to get everyone together and the town hall - if there even is one, often there was none and the mayor just worked in his own house or maybe a little office - is too small? Church. Some kind of calamitous weather? Guess what building was huge and built of tons of solid rock.

As populations expanded you'd see a new one pop up; usually so as to make a second central point with the growing population. NOWADAYS one church is enough to handle ten city blocks worth of people, but back when literally EVERYBODY went? It's more prestigious (and money is not something organized religions lack) to build a second than to close one a few weeks as you try to, what, expand for a few more pews by completely fucking up the acoustics?

Then you also started getting other denominations. First the jews show up. Then a sikh temple gets built too. These get built often just a few blocks from where the church is because that's where all the people are centralized.

Next thing you know there's a religious building every couple of blocks in Montreal. But they DO have plenty of other operations: The scouts and girl guides and all that have their meetings in the evening. Town choirs and other music groups make use of the place. Concerts are had (not many other places offer a pipe-organ if you're playing that). Bingo night in the basement. The retired-teachers association on fridays uses the place (I know this because I drive my mother there). Volunteering is done, morning meals three times a week for the homeless are done, and that's just the one near here.

They're surprisingly active if you take a look.

>>55399094
I'd do, but my ~500 point army wouldn't be nearly as interesting as 1k-1.5k+ battle reports. Usually my games boil down to "damn hot rolls over here smashing faces" or "welp, got bumrushed, gg".

Maybe whenever I upgrade my list I'll make some reports. Maybe.

Also, most people like visuals these days, so YT battlereps are usually far more sought over than text-based.

>>55398940
Salisbury is also festooned with churches. There's about four a few minutes walk from the massive cathedral that were apparently used by the workers while they were building the big one.

>>55399150
So then the image is misleading since it really just means America is more advanced? And with advancement comes franchises and obesity, which is fairly true.

Coming up with some ideas for a 500 pts Death Guard list.

How does something like this sound?

Malignant Plagecaster, 110pts.

Stinky Roomba, 142 pts.

7 Plague Marines with Power Fist ,Plasma Gun and 2 Blight Launchers, 186 pts.

10 Poxwalkers, 60 pts.

Total: 496.

Could drop a power fist and roomba for a blight-crawler tank, though that feels a bit WAAC. Maybe a bloat drone instead?

>>55399152

Guy who was asking here: I used to do it for a while, but things were kinda sloggy towards the end of 7th so I stopped. I'd restart, but I've been running an all-dread army since 8th started so the writeups might get a bit samey.

>Want to buy certain Start Collecting boxes
>No online retailer sells them as they're direct from GW
>Only LGS in my country sells them for more than GW sells them
>Buying from GW would fuck me with the same shipping cost

OY VEY
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V
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Y

>>55398781
You'll have the Emperor's blessing once you've completed them.

>>55399146
I've seen people suggest WHFB Flagellants. 10 guys for $30.

>>55399174
I've had luck getting them cheap from ebay. One seller normally has them about 70% of the GW price with no shipping, though what they have in stock on any given week varies.

>>55399183

I think flaggelants would work better for arco-flaggelants than electropriests... Cheap bodies but I think sourcing the conversion parts to make them acceptable looking might rack the price right back up.

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>>55399181
I do want the Emperors Blessing.

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>>55399146
I've posted these boyos enough that /40kg/ is probably sick of them, but I got a box of Kairic Acolytes (£30 for 20, even without discount), sliced off all the armour and Tzeench details,added Kataphron claw arms and Torsion Cannons made into punchy fists and stuff, heads were one of the ten thousand Admech roboheads from the Kataphrons and unhooded Skitarii and boom, twenty shirtless combat servitors.

>>55399172
I'd say it would depend on different opponents there. I could be could to see what you're doing vs CC-heavy, shooting-heavy or tank-heavy lists after all. This could bring in so variation at least.

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>>55397332
Aegis of course.
While everyone else uses either old as shit relics (Cataphractii/Tartaros) or uses shit quality cheapass newer versions (Indomitus), Aegis is supremely high quality, and is still produced in the 41st millenium. Also, its aesthetic as FUCK
As for equipment:
HALBERDS because, once again, AESTHETIC
the indomitus is my close second,
tho, bulldogs all the way

>>55399197
A quick look on ebay has the stave bits for $5. So if you bought two sets of those and the flaggelants you'd be able to convert a squad of 10 for roughly the cost of a normal box of 5. If you have any extra AdMech bits you could probably borg them up a bit.

>>55399192
Link, friendo?

I was hoping to switch to Elementgames from Wayland as I've had enough of them sitting on my money without despatching and all the horror stories I keep reading online.b But it does put a dampener on my hobby as my next purchases will be SC boxes.

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>>55399121
>R&H vs Baneblades
>R&H wins by 6 points
>all comers list beats LoW
niggawatt?
explain

>>55399204

Hmm not too bad a call. Certainly they make a more admech-looking base than the flaggelant suggestion, who look more like filthy peasants.

>>55399166
Rather than more advanced (there are a retarded amount of churches in the USA) it's more an indicator of just how powerful and influential organized religion was (and in some countries like the US still IS).

>>55397450
I miss these old dioramas.

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>>55398513
this is the lady Vashj figure from DC unlimited, she has good detail and is about the right scale.

>>55399203
Then you know your duty, anon.

>>55399240
http://stores.ebay.com.au/godkingsigmar/

There are a few others that I've gotten comparable rates with shipping included, but thats always a bit up and down.

>>55399240
>>55399312
Note that I'm based in Australia and I'm comparing it to GW Australia prices; might be different where you're at.

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proper eldar corsairs when?

>>55399246
makes sense, I think it was that the whole list was two baneblades and that can't exactly cap objectives or complete missions effectively unless you get nothing but "kill a squad" "kill a psyker" "kill a flyer" "kill the enemy warlord" you won't get many points.

>>55399312
Bugger, it only serves Kiwis and Oz. I'm in Malta. I'll just have to keep a good eye open, or just bite the bullet and get them locally.

Would fleshmowers and blight haulers be good to add to an undivided daemon engines and Helbrutes list?

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>>55398513
what sort of direction do you want to go? because you could have a lot of fun with a custom.

this one might get you a few odd looks at the table though.

>>55399169
Just start with the dark imperium box and expand from there m8

>>55399346
This is another one I sometimes buy from, again because its good prices compared to GW; shipping does cost though and not sure if it'll deliver to your neck of the woods. Might be worth a look though?

http://stores.ebay.com.au/pg-ltd?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

>>55399362
ha. butt wings.

>>55397852
Don't use Cawl if you are going to fluff it as a not mars forge world. Otherwise it's fine.

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>>55398776

>>55399246
>>55399334
Banes blades dont seem that good.

You're paying tons extra for the demolisher cannon, which wants you to move forward. But if you move you get -1 to hit with all your heavy weapons.

>>55399333
I'M A DANDY WARPWAY MAN
STAND AND DELIVER

>>55399384
Thanks Anon, saved it. SC boxes have a slight discount, about 4 euros but its something.

Why are some SC boxes still provided to retailers but a select few don't, though? What's the logic behind it?

>>55399397

Mars rules for other factions is fine, though I'd probably prefer to see a converted Archmagos than Cawl with a blue robe.

>>55398083
>the lucky 13ths
>have massive hats
>severe losses at the battle of "low corridor"
God dammit old-GW.

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>>55399362
Something similar to pic related or the pic in >>55398513. Wanna keep with that whole beauty aspect but less in the "Hey i have tits" way and more in the "Look at how serene and amazing I look while also being naked" look.

Also those butt wings look hilarious.

>>55399169
Dont drop romba. The plauge crawler is not great, and your infantry heavy army will do well from the cover