Infinity General: Overcompensation -edition

>>55340055
Topic of the day:
How are Helots going to be implemented in the game?

>>55340097
>base profile is 18 points
Ehh, still not great.

>>55340104
Well, there are three options. PanO slaves, Tohaa slaves, or no inclusion in game at all. Pick your poison.

>>55340055
Why does everyone keep gluing that Hector arm wrong? He's supposed to rest the sword on his shoulder, not scratch his back with it.

>>55340104
They won't.

>>55340199
That's cheaper than base Kamau. It would actually make Kamau look bad. 2pts less for more ARM, Veteran, Bioimmunity and a DTW at a cost of Mimetism. That's not a bad trade. And it would emphasize their "close range brawler" role.
Even Wildcats are 19pts base and they are touted as the better Bolts.

Also Drop Bears shouldn't be 1pt per mine, but at 21pts the Drop Bear profile would be a lot easier to swallow.

>>55340286
>Why does everyone keep gluing that Hector arm wrong?

>He doesn't shoot sword-braced itchy-back olympic bullseye style

>>55340322
>>55340286
His arm just fit better that way. I remember fiddling with the angle, but wasn't particularly happy with any of the alternative ones, so went with the studio style.

>>55340055
Morats confirmed for having small dicks

>>55340055
>literal demigod
>asian
>morat
Made me think.

>tfw no gurkha units
can you play as one in the RPG?

>>55340772

Most probably.

>>55340286
>bioimmunity, veteran and ARM is better than Mimetism and MOV

>>55340785
You omitted DTW and Drop Bears.
Kamau are long range fighters, Bolts are supposedly built for CQC and dominating mid-field. Light shotguns are a needlessly expensive addition on Combi Rifles, but Chain-Colts would make the Bolt link not as pricey and better suited for their role. You wouldn't have to fill the link with BSGs to make the Spitfire work without breaking the bank. And one of their Specialist profiles comes with a BSG and E/M Grenades anyway, which are good to have in a link – but 18pts Combi + Chain-Colt filler is always better than 19pts Shotgun one.

>>55341086
Drop bears are for a single profile. Close combat unit are cool, but slower movement hamper them a bit for that.

Shotgun profile have E/M grenades, which make him more versatile.

>>55341266
On an 18pts base Drop Bear profile would be 21pts. Which would make that very easy to fit in a link.
So far Kamau don't have a link option, which greatly limits their usability. They are still great at those few roles they cover (HMG/HRL/Hacker), but they will really see greatness once they get Fireteam: Core.
Bolts are already in a Core and that Core is meh. The E/M grenades are nice, but the fact that their signature profile (Drop Bears) is so hampered stings.

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Belhold! Robot-kitten butt.

How's the quality of REM models made pre-Icestorm?
I assume they're sculpted by hand, but does their scale fit with the new CAD models?

Can anyone recommend some replacement models I could over over the default Zeros for Nomads? I don't mind the look of the Hacker. But the rest of them look super old and goofy. Also is there anywhere I can get some CrazyKolas just them?

>>55340772
Akali come close enough as Indian balls to the walls guys. Otherwise, the Bagh-Mari.

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Anyone happen to have the Neoterran Bolt dossier picture?

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>>55342347
here.

Human-sphere actually has most Dossiers

https://human-sphere.com/index.php?title=Neoterra_Bolt

>>55342347
>>55342628
>Neoterra Butt dossier

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>>55342628
Well shit, I wasn't aware of that, thanks!

>>55341969
What the...

They're robots! They're right scale by default. Stop making mountains out of molehills.

>inb4 this is a fresh meme bait

>>55342628
>helmet has holes for her twintails
Or did they have to customize that helmet for her?

do you ever field units just because the models are cool or cute?

Since the old Rasyat models are old. Do you guys think anyone would care / notice if I just used some Tiger Solders but with some diffident heads? I was looking at them and they aside from being way better models look kind of like Rasyats already.

>>55343542
She doesn't have any, they're part of the helm.

>>55343797
For Haqqislam: Hunzakut and Muttawi'ah. Doesn't hurt that they're good in the game either.

For Yu Jing:
Kempeitei combi-rifle, Pheasant Rank Red Fury, Ninjas/Oniwabans of all types. and Tiger Soldiers.

>>55343904
>>55343928

I think some would notice, as the armor style is less blocky and angular than modern Morat armor, as well as being less beefy, but most wouldn't or shouldn't care about your minor conversion.

>>55343542
>>55343928
I've always had the minor impression that uniforms are custom scaled to the user, thus the different gun sizes, and common appearance of boob plate and pony tails sticking out.

>>55341969
All the remotes look good next to each other, except maybe Dakini

>>55343797
no I only field good units what are you 12?

>>55343490
I dunno man, I'm a new player and the scale creep has made me paranoid on what's safe to buy or not. There could also be shoddy details as a result of hand sculpting something mechanical, such as straight lines being slightly uneven or sharp edges being slightly rounded on different parts of the model etc.

>>55343490
>robots can't be out of scale
this is a fresh meme bait

>55338251
ząbki, pod Warszawą, czemu tu ludzie tak jadą na polskę? meta jak każda inna.

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>>55343797
My Sekban.

>>55343797
Hunzaqt, Zuleyka, Penny, and Atalanta

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>>55340055
is that so? i can feel your envy through the screen[/spoilers]


>>55340104
if you notice newer designs, human factions are adapting alien design/tech (Taskmaster,Kriza,New Swiss)

considering the fluff connection between the tohaa and the Helots,they will probably end up notChaksa auxiliars for the VNID.

>>55345140
Hey mate, those are really cool. I really like the style.

>>55341391
Drop bears are 1 pt now, whether they should be or not. Bolts just haven't been informed of that yet.

And I'm going to have to disagree about getting rid of the shotguns. The burst 2 BS16 shotties on everything are one of their greatest assets for securing the midfield, direct templates don't let you use that BS and fall flat when the opponent is willing to sacrifice stuff to kill your link. The key isn't to make them cheaper, but more useful. Stuff like the proposal last thread putting e/maulers and drop bears on the most basic profile for 24 points, that drags the usefulness upwards towards the price rather than dragging the price down to fit a lower level of usefulness. I'd rather give a link a bunch of fancy new shit than drop its price 10 points.

>>55345446
Thanks. I'm going to have to brighten them up, they look good under bright lighting, but on the tabletop they just look black.

>>55345649
I actually really like that, I think it'd be pretty cool if you made their lights super bright.

>>55345649
>on the tabletop they just look black.
Perfect
Operators operating

>>55345140
I love the Ghulams face, nice job

>>55340104
>>55340245
http://www.data-sphere.net/impressions-from-the-interplanetary-2015-background-a-k-a-fluff/
>Anything about the natives of Varuna?

>Nothing solid yet. The Oom “fish-men” and Helots will appear as a playable part of the Varuna sectorial, though!

>>55340104
PanO Varuna unit. Not sure what kind, they could potentially fill any LI role. If I had to guess I'd say an engineer profile, possibly irregular, with light weapons and good speed. And aquatic terrain, of course.

Most likely they will not end up in Tohaa vanilla, but if a Tohaa sectorial ends up being based around slave races they might end up there.

Why would the EI let the krakot go instead of wiping them out for treason?

>>55344659
Warszawa ma aktywną scenę, znajdź grupę na fb "Infinity w Warszawie".
A jadą bo mieliśmy kilka dziwnych historii z Białegostoku i kilku innych państw z Europy Wschodniej.

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>interested in the game
>looking up factions
>find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7SQkSFCFk8&sns=fb
>mfw
Oh man please tell me they're good

>>55346242
They're pretty awesome and very cheap points wise for what they are.

>>55346090
Not worth the effort required. It's not like they've got much valuable info or tech as hyper-aggressive escaped criminals, and unlike the Concordat they're a very small-scale operation.

>>55346242
They're one of the very few sniper HI and the only Ariadna two-wound one (though still in a roundabout way).

>>55346103
a białystkok, moja mama ma tam rodzinę. Dziwne miasto.

Dzieki za tip o Infinity w Warszawie, jak narazie to gramy sobie we kilka osób tylko, wiecej frakcji i przeciwników byłoby fajne.

>>55347056
>>55346103
>>55344659
Fu*king Black Tongue...

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before I commit to buying any models how is this for a list to start Infinity with?

from here it seems like it would be easy to expand into a full morat list, or else I also kind of like the models for the Combined Army bug guys.

People have said Zurats are not the greatest, but are they irredeemably bad or just mediocre? I really like the models.

>>55346242

They're useful, depends on the mission. Not an autoinclude by any means but very killy and used intelligently will be pretty durable.

>>55348436

So one of the things about Infinity is that it's hard to say that a list is "good" in a vacuum. There aren't really "killer lists" for factions.

What there *are* are "killer lists" for missions, depending on the mission. And missions can vary quite a bit. So you're gonna want some variety. Hence why Zerats are good, they can both kill people as well as do tech shit with their Forward Observer and Assault Hacker profiles.

In the new tournament rules Zerats got a lot better because marker states got a bit of a nerf, so the fact that they don't hide their position isn't as big of a deal. It'd still be nice, but then again there's a certain value to being able to deploy upfield with their Infiltration and then flamethrower people.

The list you're showing here isn't really what I'd call a coherent list; the Oznat is almost always run with the Hungries, there's not really a fireteam here. It seems like you really like the Morats, it might be best to stick with them and expand into the rest of Combined Army later.

Purchases should probably be:
Starter of your chosen faction
Expanded Basic Infantry of your chosen faction (Vanguard Infantry in the case of Morats)
Support models/specialist (Medchanoid, Zerats)
Some remotes (Drone Remotes, Ikadrons)
Fancy shit (Kornak, Suryats, more Sogarats)

>>55348436
You want to have 10 orders in your main group.
Oznats are extremely impetuous when unlinked so they can be really hard to control. Not a good idea to take them solo. Zerats are all right, it's just that CA offers much better infiltrators for the price so they have some tough competition in vanilla.

>>55348436
Zerats aren't terrible in and of themselves, the issue is more that Shrouded are such a massive upgrade over them for only a few points. Camo on an infiltrator is a huge deal, and Zerats have almost nothing to compensate for lacking it. If I can't take a different infiltrator (like in MAF) I'd take Zerats, but any alternative laughs them out of the room.

The real shitters are Oznats. Take one in MAF to keep your pet Hungries under control (even then you only need one, any more is a waste), but in vanilla they're just worse Daturazi. Raktoraks aren't quite as bad but are still mediocre. If you get the MAF starter, go for MAF. A full third of the box is next to useless in vanilla.

It seems like you're best off starting in MAF desu, then expanding into vanilla. Monkey-heavy vanilla only works well with particular units, and the stuff you seem to want aren't those units. In MAF you should be alright with your selections for the most part.

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>>55348436

I'd rejigger the combat groups in this one but I know it ain't terrible for a mission like Annihilation.

>>55348436
Where to start?
Bar Umbras you have only morats. And not just any morats, a starter + couple of random blisters. Instead of single big group there are two small ones. Generally it's better to have one main group and a small group for a couple of units that probably won't need that many orders during game, like Total reaction bots.
Zerats have their place in Morat sectorial, but they are overshadowed by shasvastii infiltrators in vanilla.
I'm not a fan of the lieutenants either. In their sectorial, Onyx have precious few lieutenant options and umbras are typically protected by their link.

I'd decide, whether you want to field vanilla and sectorial and build to that army's strength. These kind of lists that don't fully utilize their benefits are somewhat pointless.

>>55348667

In the current tournament setup, taking an infiltrating Zerat and going HVT hunting is fine. If they're your datatracker they can't camo anyway. Also dudes like Shrouded don't have infiltration + D-Charges to get the super easy Sabotage.

>>55348713
CA has better datatracker options. Not quite as many D charges but imo Kurgat, Doc Worm and especially Rasyat have more utility as platforms.

Shrouded > Zerats. I could be playing a game where D charges are required for all objectives and Shrouded would still beat out Zerats.

>>55348768

The Zerat assault hacker can complete like half the objectives in the deck. She's one of the Classified pieces with the most utility in the game.

>let's have all these different and varied subfactions
>but let's make it absolute dogshit to ever use them together
I honestly think the only way I am going to break into this game is if I proxy whole lists with whatever reaper/gw models I have around until I can learn the rules

>>55348436
If I wanted to do Morat starter + Zerat + vanilla elements, the problem is that Raktorak and Oznat are really designed to be in fireteams, so maybe:

3x Vanguard FOs
Anyat, [Oznat as proxy]
Sogarat Lt.
Q Drone
Umbra spitfire
Umbra hacker
Zerat hacker
Ko Dali

By busting Anyat down to Oznat or trimming the FO upgrade off the Vanguards you could also swap the drone for something like a Noctifer/Maakrep/Rodok heavy weapon guy

>>55349028
Really the problem is the starter box design/ name. Subfactions were introduced after a few years of the game, so the philosophy behind the boxes has been -you already have a core list now want to buy the shit you didn't need before. So Morat starter gives you basically four different supplements. They've cherry picked stuff vanilla players wouldn't have already bought In contrast the vanilla starter is actually a coherent stand alone package

>>55348667
hungries seem like a very poor value for the money.

four models in a fixed pose, 16-28 points (depending on how you count them), for about 50 USD somehow makes kirby era GW prices look inexpensive.

>>55349141
Don't compare points to money, it newer works.
unless you're on a budget for a force of a given point size, in that case no shit cheaper units are more $-expensive

>>55349141
Yeah, it sucks. Points:$ is also a good reason not to field TAGs, a logic the developers are desperately trying to argue people out of. But hey, another one of their recent rule revisions is in favour of elite lists made up of exactly 10 models - and that makes for a very affordable game.

>>55349463
What? You want inflated prices for point wise expensive units ala GW?

TAG's aren't even that bad for points per money, about the same as non-HI blisters.

>>55348351
Its alright anon, you can swear here you self-censoring nigger.

>>55349791
t. wh*Te

>>55349968
G* b*ck t* r*ddit :*)

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H*r*'s a C* H*T.

>>55349605
No. But cost is always important. Like a lot of people who play the game in large part because of cheap pretty armies I'm against expensive ugly models of great tactical value. Tinbots are the most obvious example of total redundancy and cash grabbing.

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>>55350321
>expensive ugly models of great tactical value
Neither is particularly true

>>55350321
Or you know, just play a cheap pretty army. Nobody is forcing you to play tags and many people like big robots.

>>55350380
>>55350397
> I want to use this cool up to date model from the starter pack.

No! First you must buy these 4 shit models from years ago as a necessary complement

If morat have no word for surrender, and hate civilians why does the RPG book say they don't abuse captured cities unless it's people rebel?

>>55350550

Because the city didn't surrender and they don't get involved with things that they hate.

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>>55346242
They're these guys but cheaper, and these guys are pretty good so they're good.

>>55350550
If a Morat is ordered to keep his distance and not fuck with civvies, that's what he'll do. The EI itself would be in charge of actually running things in the captured cities.

>>55350287
I thought it was holding a brain at first.

>>55350624
Just being a civilian is enough for a yaogat to kill you though

>>55350747

>during combat in civilian areas

Nope.

>>55350747
That's specifically when they're sent in to purge, and those purges are mentioned. Some Vanguard basic bitch on patrol isn't going to shoot an allied civvie, especially if they've been ordered not to.

New player here, looking to get into infinity but am short on funds, any advice on what factions I could collect that focus wither on lots of maneuverability or on infiltration/ camouflage ( I like the glass cannon playstyle coming from playing dark elder in 40k) but that won't cost me that much to collect.

>>55351139
Nomads come to mind, but most factions can do that sort of stuff. Most units in the game are some sort of glass cannons due to how deadly shooting is. Ariadna trend towards greater numbers, so I guess stay away from them.

>>55351139
Tbh, you can play any faction like that. Go for the one you like the aesthetic the most and come back.

>>55344033
>except maybe Dakini
You shut your dirty who're mouth.
Dakini are beautiful and too pure for you.

>>55351139
Both Ariadna and Haqqislam.
Haqqislam focuses on trading forces while ariadna (from my experience) are more hit and run.

>>55351298
Well, morats and greeks are more of "brick to the face" school of fighting.

>>55351139
>I could collect that focus wither on lots of maneuverability or on infiltration/ camouflage ( I like the glass cannon playstyle coming from playing dark elder in 40k

Japanese Sectorial Army:

Glass cannon maneuverables: Aragoto (bikes), Keisotsu link teams.

Infiltration and Camouflage: Ninjas and Oniwabans

Is Steel Phallus viable without character models? I kind of like their style, but I hate using characters in wargames.

>>55351329
WEEBS RAUS

Actually I'd wait for their starter to be resculpted

>>55351328
It's less of a brick and more of a prince rupert's drop. Hard as he'll unless you hit them the right way. Once you start folding them up though, they go down pretty fast.
to be fair, I play Greeks, but I've had it happen to me.

>>55351341
Not really. You could theoretically run one, but that would be rather missing the point (+you'd probably need multiple copies of same models and robots to fill the blanks). It's not that the characters even are that unrealistic, as ALEPH just takes the next batch from the stores after the Achilles gets himself killed nth time.

>>55351341
Only non-characters that can form links are the Myrmidon officers.Phallus without characters is just really bland, your options consist of 6 units.

>>55351341
Not really, but characters matter less in this game, compared to say, WHF.
And all the Greeks are recreations, so none of the characters are necessarily unique, according to fluff. There could be 3 or 4 copies of Achilles running around. Sure, it's illegal, but so are chain rifles. Every force in the O-12 still uses them.

>>55351429
Pretty few characters in ASS are actual recreations. Most are regular ALEPH aspects that got promoted into Jerkilles funclub.

>>55351503
IIRC only Penny, Hector and Achilles are recreations.

>>55351532
And Patrocules

>>55351532
For a moment I thought they cloned the clown.
There should always be a clown on every space station.

>>55349028
Using various stuff from various sectorials is valid, however stuff that is good in a sectorial might have a strictly better alternative from another sectorial when played in vanilla. And then there's Frenzy models who gain a lot from sectorial rules. This is why Hospitallers that are so awesome in MO rarely ever appear in generic PanO, aside from Joan and sometimes De Fernsen.

>>55351817
Hospitaller doctors show up a decent amount in vanilla. Even with frenzy they're extremely valuable. I'd put Santiagos and particularly Magisters as better examples, I've never seen either played in vanilla at all.

>>55351771
You're a god damned monster.

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>>55351771

>>55346242
Am I the only one thinking this should've been a Kazak Unit? :/

>>55351986
They already have Vet Kazaks. Nothing wrong with letting the other armies have a unit that's worth using in vanilla.

>>55352023
Vet Kazaks are also much better.

>>55351986
Yes, it would be overshadowed by the Spetsnaz.

I know it is against the "rules" of the setting, but I'm thinking it would be really cool to have models for some kind of combat vehicle, like some kind of helicopter or AFV

>>55352023
Unless they're American. We turned that scourge to nano-wasteland for a reason.
the reason being they're retarded and did it to themselves

>>55352149
Semi-official dropships as scenario objectives already exist.

>>55352149
>wouldn't it be cool if
Only if you spend half a year writing vehicle rules and another half a year playtesting them.

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>>55352149
I got this to use as a piece of scenery, but I've yet to assemble and paint it.

>>55352178

The Russian's didn't do that. That was due to a conflict with PanO. The Russian's just got bitched out and lost with a wimper. At least team USA scorched the Earth verse losing it.

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>>55352178
The Russians are running things on that fucking planet m8, we might as well throw standards right out the window.

Besides, it's not like there's really any functional difference between any of the savages on Dawn. Americans, Russians, Scots, Antipodes. They're all shitters, keeping Teseum away from the people who could actually make good use of it.

>>55352335
>Oh gee whiz, this planet is full of a highly rare metallic substance that's a room temperature superconductor that can be used to build starship drives and other technological wonders. What do the locals do with it?
>Make AK bullets.

>>55352334
>>55352335
This
PanO should own Dawn, as per its manifest destiny

>>55352335
Pano's the sluttiest faction

>>55352335

>muh crony capitalism
>muh corporate dickriding
>muh Catholicism

Yeah, whatever, I know you galactics are just salty that us backwater rednecks have enough teseum to turn your Jotum divisions into Swiss cheese.

>>55352460
>tfw you will never live to see such a glorious place

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Please tell me this glorious bastard is worth a damn.

>>55352539
Feel free to think whatever makes you feel better my dude. I'm afraid those Jotums won't be arriving at Dawn en masse any time soon. They have actual threats to deal with, like the chinks.

Just be sure to suck O-12's dick extra hard next time, as thanks for saving your little villages from the big mean galactics.

>>55352732
Of course he is. He's one of the most popular active turn killers in the faction with his ability to ignore defensive measures like smoke and camouflage.

>>55352839

Were you paying attention to Wotan? O-12 sucks out dick now, not the other way around. Turns out they need us to do the space policin' you galactics can't handle.

>>55351986
Just to be clear, I was talking especially about the Power Armour Guy. It should at least be not bound to USAriadna, so it can be in multiple Sectorials with out sticking out. Just my personal opinion.

>>55352876
You sure do seem proud of doing someone else's dirty work. Good on you! Maybe if you're extra good O-12 will come down and give you guys some fancy new technology, like holograms or running water.

catboy models when???

>>55353049
When you make them your god damned self you sicko. Only pretty ladies should have cute ears and tails.

>>55352732
He's good, though not as good as he would be with smoke. But if you happen to play a Mercs game, take him and Yuan Yuans.
He's kind of an oversized Nisse.

>>55353068
how do the cat people reproduce then? spores?

or do they have extreme dimorphism like anglerfish?

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>>55353049
Oh boi, I wonder who's behind this post

>>55353212
Automagically.

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>>55352522
u jelly?

>>55353434
Why are the Hyperpower's females so T H I C C

>>55353444
Wealth and genetics.

>>55352522
>>55353434
>>55353444

National Babe Scale:

Best Tier
Ariadna

Great Tier
Haq

Good Tier
Pan-O=YuJing

Good but you are still a fucking weirdo Tier
Nomads
Alpeha
Gorgos (75% of her body is boobs and ass)
Tohaa Delegate
Ko Dali

You Sick Fuck Tier
Combined Army
Tohaa

>>55353602
>he doesn't want to fuck an oznat

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>>55353602
>implying anyone gives a fuck about the opinions of backwater yiffs

I am a little curious why you draw the line at Delegates though. She's not stacked like the Gorgos pilot so there's not much separating her from, say, a Kamael or Rasail.

>>55353602
>skanky yiffs
>best
Furries...

>>55353602
>Best Tier
>Ariadna
No thanks, I prefer my women chlamydia-free

>>55354333
>Chlamydia-free
Best discount Neoterra Bolts too. We all know what those Drop Bears are carrying.

>>55353750
>he doesn't want to fuck an oznat

Anon plz, of course I would let a Oznat and a Fraacta tag team me. I never said I was not also a sick fuck.

>>55354569
Duh, we all know PanO's got crabs.

>>55354569
>>55354716
DON'T BULLY MY CUTE GIRLS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You have the best blonds and redheads in Caldonia and all those sexy mixed women in USA.

Russia and France have some top tier choices as well according to their models.

The furries are just icing.
>>55354333
They don't have chlamydia, they have fleas

>>55354743
And worms

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>>55354716
I see what you did there.

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>>55353049

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>>55353444

>>55354743
>Sexy
>Woman.
>USA.
Pick two, they are only getting fattier, imagine in the future...

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>>55355321
>fat people still existing in the age of body modification

>>55355424
>implying fat fetish isn't already a thing
If anything, it's gonna get more extreme with bodymodification.
People are gonna look fat without actually being fat.

>>55355569
Fat people already do that. None of them is really, factually fat.

>>55353033

We don't need holograms when we have enough Antipode pelts to make camo gear for like 5 million people.

I think you're just upset that Aleph can't propagandize to us 24/7 or edit our memories. Makes you feel awkward to think that there might be someone with more freedom than you.

>>55352335
What about the Frogs?

>>55353602

>Combined Army
>You Sick Fuck

Sexy Morat is best tier.

FUCKING GHAZI

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>>55355832
>implying ariadna isn't haqqislam and the nomads' bitchy
try talking back to them, you vodka addled idiot and see what happens. remind me what space assets you guys have again?

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>>55355832
>someone with more freedom than PanO

>>55356273
Nomads

>>55356008

Whatever the Nomads didn't self-destruct when we enacted civil forfeiture on them over the "smuggling Shasvastii" thing.

>>55356298
Honestly, we thought they were morlocks!

>>55356298
Oh right, when you collaborayed openly with the Combined Army, right?

That alone removes any right for you backwater cretins to talk shit, even to the nomads.

Filthy
Fucking
Traitors

>>55356469

lolwut, I dunno what you were talking about. They contacted us for an alliance, we told them to kick rocks. Not much to talk about. Your propaganda literally only works on people who've had their memories edited by Aleph.

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>>55356298
>a few nomad ships that they didn't bother self destructing is the ariadnan """""""navy""""""
lay off the krokodil sergei

>>55356533

Yeah, it turns out us dogfaces can do Krokodil with no ill effects. It's pretty sweet, saves me a lot of money on heroin.

Pretty good when we're a nation that both the wogs and the chinks are constantly trying to prevent from developing into a space power. We'll build it or we'll take it, your choice.

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>>55353602
>not wanting to fuck this cute artichoke
you're gay as fuck dude

>>55356911
>cute
Nigga what. The old sculpt was ugly as fuck.
The fem-Rasail, OTOH, is the stuff of dreams.

Are moblots just subpar compared to the other link options in MRRF?

Beyond their current models being awful, I like minutemen but I think loup garous have the pure damage aspect covered while briscards have the defensive link.

May I have your attention please.

>>55350287 is wearing a giant golden bow-tie.

That is all.
You're welcome :^)

>>55356911
As previously stated, I am also a sick fuck and would totally plant my dingus into that artichoke.

>>55356995

A Moblot core has way more options to deal with a variety of threats at different ranges while also advancing to take objectives. They are also slightly tougher and can be Lt.

>>55357075
Eh, briscards do the whole marksman rifle/HRL + assault pistol schtick pretty well

Is the linked BS13 HMG and panzerfausts worth missing out on linked viral?

>>55356968
I would let her board my ship every day.

>>55356566
>ariadna players roleplaying as furries
fuckin' hell mate

>>55357046
This just got so much better, thank you.

>>55357188

Well that all depends on you and what you value.

Like the post said, Moblot core can use Fireteam order efficiency to move up the board super fast and take objectives.

>>55357200
Bagpipes AND furries; It's like they were going out of their way to make the wogs look good by comparison.

>>55357261
AS YOU SHOULD KNOW, PanOceania is a multicultural entity. That's why we got the best women

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>>55356508
Don't try to deny it

>>55357405
Your shift key seems to be sticky anon

>>55357249
Well, it's true that MRRF has basically three pretty similiar core options, with Loups being pure long-mid-range damage, Moblots having multitude of options for specialists (and only one with HMG) and slightly tougher than others and Briscards are somewhere in the middle.

>>55357519

It's because he jacks off to sexy Morats

>>55357474
So what happened with that?

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>>55357558
Good taste. Captain Kirk would be proud.

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>>55355424
>implying ass-backwards Ariadna has access to that sweet bodymod tech

>>55357474
I wonder how the RPG write-ups of that and Bit's treachery will look, and where they'll put them.

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>>55353602
>ALEPH
>weirdo tier

Wat. ALEPH's assets are literal perfection.

>>55355321
this.
also, with exception of cherry picking the top 5%, those "sexy mixed women" are the fattest ones

>t. American Dog

>>55355321
>>55359151
Chances are the fat ones were picked off early during the fighting with the antipodes.

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Even though I'll probably never play again since my local WarCor hates me, what could I count-as the GenCon Ariadna Grunt? A spetsnaz? A Minuteman? An Airborne Ranger?

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>>55359360
The gencon model is just a USARF alternative version of the Intel spec ops.

The current model is perfectly useable and one of my most favorite in the entire Ariadna range.

Unless your question was "what can I use the gencon intel as?" In which case, anything USARF besides the dog I guess.

>>55353750
zerat is olev

Hey boys. Just bought the operation ice storm starter to share it with my old warhammer 40k buddy. Hes a serial powergamer but has never touched Infinity before. I like both Panoceania and Nomads, but I'm not sure which one to go with. What are the strengths of each faction, and which one is more easily exploitable for powergamers. Also any advice for someone who barely has a clue on how to play?

I'm bored with humanity. Should I pick Tohaa or Combined Army?

>>55360901
No faction is 'exploitable for powergamers'. That's a 40kism because there's zero attempt for balance in 40k. All factions in Infinity are honestly entirely viable.
Both factions have very subtle strengths that I think you should simply choose based on what looks coolest. PanO is slightly more 'direct attack by better stats' and Nomads are slightly more 'have special tricks'

>>55361027
Thats one thing I was wondering. I don't have the rules yet, and I can't find them online, but I know about hacking. How does it work and can you use it in a infantry vs infantry gunfight to get some sort of advantage?

>>55361006
Do you like monkeys or mind control?

Or

Are you very familiar with the rules and want interesting new rules combined with unconventional useage of old rules to make a unique and fun experience?

Then Tohaa

Also if you play military orders don't bother playing morats

>>55361006
If you want a bunch of weird and pseudo-overpowered bullshit to play with, pick Tohaa. If you want diverse units with a few huge killers, pick CA.

>>55361160
MO and MAF are different as fuck. The only real similarly is that they're both direct and combat focused.

>>55361083
You can grab the rules right off the website. https://www.infinitythegame.com/resources/downloads

What you can do with hacking is generally divided up to what kind of hacking device you have, but mainly its best against heavy infantry, remotes, tags and other hackers. You basically have a spell list of special effects you can use to fuck with your enemies, which can only be used in your hacker's range, or your range can be extended with repeaters you can lay down. Normal basic infantry are mostly immune to most of it's tricks, but big scary units tend to be more vulnerable to them.

>>55361508
Alright. As for normal infantry engagements do Nomads have any special tricks they can use on enemies? I like playing really shooty, but hacking seems like a pretty solid ability.

>>55361460
They're both universally religious, not subtle and suck at infiltrating. MOs tag is better though I guess

>>55342347

The Knight on the left looks like a lady. Are women (aside from Joan) allowed to be knights and we just don't have any sculpts of them? It's always bothered me that Knights seem to be the only model range without rank-and-file women in it.

>>55361748
There are 3 ways you can directly effect shootouts with hacking.
Firstly you can bypass the entire thing by immobilising a hackable target and pumping them full of holes while they can't defend themselves.
You can also buff remotes by either allowing them to ignore cover or give them 2 shots in ARO instead of 1, both very powerful.
Lastly, there's the more rare ability that only a few factions have. White noise drops a template that basically acts as a smoke grenade against multispectral visor troops (who can see through conventional smoke), allowing you to either avoid them and close the distance or shoot at them with a non-MSV troop so that they have trouble shooting back.

>>55361834
MO infiltrators are solid. And that's like saying you shouldn't play Haqq and Nomads because they're both tricky factions who like fucking around. Details like the link focus vs HI focus or smokey warbands vs marker states make them feel distinct enough.

How do the USAriadna and the Combined Army play? I'm looking into the game, and looking at factions.

>>55361939
Thanks. As a completely different question, what is the best way to get terrain for this game?

>>55362050
same as with any wargame, pick 2:
>good
>cheap
>fast

>good and cheap
make it yourself

>good and fast
buy bandua wargames ready for battle terrain or something else that's prepainted

>fast and cheap
buy the official papercraft terrain, "neon lotus scenery pack", "moto.tronica scenery pack" etc.

>>55362119
>Gotta go with fast and cheap
F-Feels good to have no artistic talent and a budget.

>>55362193
nothing wrong with that, i wish more games had such an accessible entry point so you don't have to play on planet bowling ball or use household objects for terrain

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>>55362119

Depending on your definition of "good", you can get "fast, cheap, and good" by buying the unpainted PlastCraft terrain and painting it up yourself using white primer, some blue silver and yellow paint, a black gel pen, and a matte varnish spray. That's all it really takes to make it look decent, and the terrain is cheap, and it assembles and paints up pretty fast compared to doing MDF terrain**. You can take a double module from "in package" to "the varnish is drying" in under an hour once you've got a rythmn going.

**Except the TAG Hangar. Fuck the TAG hangar.

>>55362193
You can get like three Mono.tronica packs for ~$30 total and they come painted, being paper and all.

>>55362228
I actually really like the paper houses that I've seen infinity players using at my LGS. Somethign about em seems very utilitarian and cool. Are there any good playmats for infinity, because I swear the guys at my LGS have one that looks perfect for cyberpunk sci-fi stuff

>>55359360
>Even though I'll probably never play again since my local WarCor hates me
What's the story here? You can't drop this and not expect us to want you to follow through with a story.

>>55362276
sounds like the jack of all trades option where it's not really any of the three but it's not bad, expensive or slow either

>>55362322
>>55362228
NVM just realized it comes with the tronica terrain pack.

>>55362341
He said that because he wanted to blogpost you stupid fuck, good job taking the bait.

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>>55362349

That's a fair assessment as well. I've found it to be more of the "happy medium".

Costwise: I've got a full table of PlastCraft for ~$120, while the people in my meta who are doing full tables of Warsenal or Bandua stuff are dropping $300-500, easily. My first Infinity table was entirely papercraft, and I dropped about $60 at Kinkos getting stuff printed in hi-res color on heavy paper. The PlastCraft is certainly more than twice as useful (and durable) as the papercraft.

Timewise: About an hour/building, as I said. Roughly four times what it took "per building" when I did my papercraft, and probably 1/4 what the local MDF guys are spending to assemble, clean, and airbrush their terrain.

Good-wise: I dunno. It's subjective. I haven't had any complaints about the looks or durability of the Plastcraft, while I had people unwilling to play with the papercraft terrain, for a variety of reasons (mostly durability and irritation with somebody not "buying in" to the game sufficiently). It's certainly not going to be long-term as durable as MDF, but I can afford to replace a building if I break one, and my buildings don't shatter if I drop them, while that's happened to some of the MDF.

>>55361991
You picked nearly polar opposites

USAriadna are high armor across the board, big guns and cheap dudes. They lack essentially any sort of tech but make up for it with brawn. Their 300 point list will easily have over a dozen guys

Combined are high tech aliens, monkey klingons and sneaky shasvaasti infiltrators. They have their fair share of big guns and horrifying monster Rambo units but pay a premium for everything

what is a good faction to signal that I am single and looking for a bf?

is it nomads?

>>55362599
Usually a safe bet to assume anyone under 40 that spends their free time at a game store pushing around little metal soldiers is single, until informed otherwise.

>>55362599
Steel phalanx. Can't think of anything gayer, to be bloody honest.

>>55362438
>Kinkos
Those still exist?

>>55362599
It's nomads.

>>55361885
I sometimes think the only way we're going to find out is if the knightly careers in the RPG PanO book say men-only on them. And if they do, what if you were born female, but got a male Lhost at some point?

>>55361885
Yes but they're rare. It was addressed in the same interview where the whole 'Uhahu is a clone who was created to die' thing was brought up iirc.

>>55362599
Are you a gayboi or maleness disabled individual?

>>55363022
I wish I was the latter. I would give anything to be the latter.

I chose a stable career over a transition. It's enabled me to buy a lot of /tg/ toys and not worry about paying the bills. It isn't the life I wanted, but I was afraid. Whatever the reason though, this is the life that I chose.

>>55363135
Sounds like Nomads to me.

>>55361748
Hacking is more of a utility ability and not a 'I win combat' ability, as it generally's used to stun the strongest unit types, or provide bonuses for certain of your units.

Nomad nasty tricks include using smoke screens and shooting through them with multispectral visors at helpless enemies, or packing secondary weapons like Adhesive Launchers which can glue tough targets in place, being able for several models to climb up walls rapidly to attack from unexpected angles or simply having utility flamethrowers on a number of profiles.

>>55363135

You'll feel better about it in five years, trust me.

>>55363135
Don't worry anon you made the right choice I think. As long as you stay cute, and maybe diet a little/shower knowing the population of TG I'm sure you'll get a cute guy friend to fuck you. Also don't ever wish you were a woman, they're just worse versions of men desu.

[spoilers]Also yeah go for Nomads if you're a bottom, Panoceania if top

>>55363222
I thought that five years ago and still think about it every day

>>55363219

>utility flamethrowers

I fucking love this game

>>55361006

Combined Army Onyx task force.

Go maximum cheese. 1 Umbra Samaritan & 2 Big ol bots

Say a HI unit pops a corner and shotguns my Kanren Assualt hacker (pretending to be a Killer Hacker). My ARO is some Assault Hacking Program.

Do we both make normal rolls or is it a Face to face?

>>55364616

Face to Face

>>55363802
Take another umbra and rodok link. Everybody super jump!

are there some special simplified setups for new players to learn the rules? the only one I saw was "ignore points and SWC, 3 models a side, team deathmatch with whatever terrain you've got" but that doesn't seem like an in-depth way to go about it

>>55364841
The Operation: X boxes have a series of missions that slowly introduce the core concepts.

>>55364852
And beyond boxes/odf have more missions, up to the full game.

But I'd say you can play pretty full games after the three models introduction demo. Just avoid the more difficult concepts like hacking the first couple of games.

>>55364740

I run that list in biotechvore. Samaritan, 2 Xeodrons, 5 Rodoks, and 2 Imetrons because they're immune to the biotechvore.

>>55361885
Gutier confirmed in an interview that there are women Knights, but they have not had the opportunity to sculpt any yet. Also they wanted to keep Joan special.
There already are female Order Sergeants.

>>55365115

Really? I'm all for having female minis, but I think it makes the most sense for the knights to stay exclusively male. Space nuns are all female over in Bakunin, for instance.

>>55365131
Yeah, but N*mads are all degenerate.

>>55365271

So surely the least degenerate thing you could do would be to have an all-male unit.

>>55365115
>>55365131

Didn't he mention they will keep the actual knights male so that Joan stands out more?

>>55365291
Bitch please. Just because we're champions of Purity and Justice doesn't mean we have to go full 19th century. It's 2192, for Christ's (I'm sorry, Jesus) sake!

>>55365313
There are lot's of orders, I doubt orders Joan can link with get women midels, but I'm all for feisty lady Sepulchre or Montesa.

>>55365332
>inb4 lady TEUTON

>>55365131
Observance is all-female because they're fucking psychotic and keep Sin-Eaters around for "expiation of the masculine condition". You guys probably shouldn't want to mirror that shit desu.

>>55365521
>Titons

Is Lupe worth taking in Corregidor? She seems to try to do too many things at once and Jags make for much cheaper smokes.

>>55365778
Yes. Linked Panzerfaust and specialist.

>>55365778
Lupe is pretty essential for Alguacil links. Her job isn't just to be the designated smoke dispenser.

What happens to the Tohaa behind the Combined Army's frontlines?

>>55366189
Literally the Sygmaa. Or the resistance against them.

>>55366198
Nah, CA Tohaa are perfectly fine. They hate the Trihedron Tohaa because they were convinced CA takeover means doom but nothing much changed after.

>>55366294
I'm not sure I follow this post chain. Were you meaning 'what happens to regular Tohaa who end up behind enemy lines'? If they end up in Sygmaa space they might very well join the Trigon or whatever the resistance is called.

>>55366347
My bad, reading comprehension. I understood it as what happens to conquered Tohaa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrkGWacK0Gw


wub wub it's the CA scrub

>>55366485
We don't have much information on the current state of the CA/Tohaa border. I believe it's holding still, so the CA aren't managing to conquer any more worlds. I don't think it's said anywhere exactly how long the Sygmaa government has existed for. There's still a unit based around those who were evacuated from the lost colony worlds, which seems to indicate that it hasn't been more than a lifetime, but it's been long enough for Neema Satar to grow up (though I don't think it's said anywhere how long Tohaa live). The RPG makes reference to the inefficient Sygmaa administration making forums take months to years, and the Sygmaa starting to develop a distinct culture, which also seems to indicate it's been a pretty significant period.

No word on whether they take PoW's though.

>>55366507
The bow tie really makes it.

Based on their dossier these guys appear to be Urkherit, the same species as Nexus Ops. I guess maybe they're the ones who survive their training but still don't make the grade as Nexus.

>>55366587
CA didn't take all the planets at the same time. Sakiel may be largely from the most recently conquered planets.

>>55366637
It's a Pneumarch, which means it's another form of EI aspect. The head kind of reminds me of the Unidron one, but without the tails.

>>55366670
Nah, the EI Aspects used for diplomacy are different things, they're called Plenipotentiaries.

>>55366587
>No word on whether they take PoW's though.
Morat do, they treat them like the Japs did in ww2

>old Aleph stuff gone from catalogue
Is this CB's way of saying they're going to get resculpts soon, or did thwy finally stop pretending that Vedic has any future?

>>55361006
Your choice of either watching all episodes of evangelion over the weekend, or getting a saturday night special.

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>>55367744
They are scrapping Aleph completely. They have finally admitted to themselves that it was a dumb idea to begin with.

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>>55367744
Might be a repack, or indeed a new sculp

>did thwy finally stop pretending that Vedic has any future?

Hardly, proxies, bots, nagas and danavas are still exist

>>55367919
I wonder who exacly behind this post....

Newfag here. What's wrong with Aleph?

>>55368205
It's a dumb faggy robot.

>>55368205
They are just memeing. There is literally nothing wrong with Aleph, fellow citizen.

>>55368205
The entire faction is essentially an AI making vat clones and robots, putting itself into them and making them think they are individuals so that it can LARP as a bunch of Greek homos and cute anime girls.

>>55368340
Wouldn't you want to insert yourself into cute anime girls too?

>>55368443
Hatred for aleph stems exclusively from jealousy for it's ability to be a cute anime girl. That's why Nomads became furries, the whole time they were trying to be anime but fell short.

>>55356291
being high on drugs is not the same as being free.

>>55368929
Unless you're in the army, or working with a veteran.

>>55368492
>the EI learns this and joins the conflict
Imagine the terror

>>55368492
+gigantic greek schlongs. African sized, but on a pure white body. This causes hate eternal.

>>55361939
To be fair I really wouldn't recommend Nomads/Haqq as a second faction to someone who already plays one of those two.

If you're going to get icestorm+red veil, it should be pano+haqq and nomads+yu-jing for maximum diversity of gameplay

>>55369101
Didn't the ancient Greeks explicitly dislike and made fun of large penises?

>>55369245
only the gay ones, like small flacid penises. Real man liked them big and strong.

>>55368205
It's Jewish.

>>55369957
just because jews stole the term and the word from phoenicians, does not make it jewish. Other wise you would have to call 2/3 of the world british, and 100% beloging to gypsis.

How many fusiliers does it take to change a light bulb?

>>55371634
Depends on the sectorial.

>>55371634
One, but he can only do it 60% of the time.

>>55369160
The only tricky guys in Red Veil are Kawarij and Tuareg. Even then you can get mileage using them like glass cannons.

>>55368492
I hate ALEPH cuz he's a gross control freak.

>>55369245
They thought that they where crude and funny. Ancient Greeks apparently thought that a man with a large penis would be automatically stupid and ill mannered. It was also thought that men with big dicks couldn't father children as easily. Thus small penises where seen as signs of virility.

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Is there anyone more full of shit than an Asawira?

>>55368980
It's got a natural advantage.

>>55372787

>EI tells Morats that that their armed forces need to be 40% female at least

>>55371634
One.

To hold a subhuman Zhanshi at gunpoint to do it.

>>55372838

But on Active Turn the Zhanshi shoots his Combi Rifle.

>>55369160
Yea going from nomads to yu jing feels pretty natural. YJ is what nomads would be if they had an obscene amount of money and resources.

>>55372781
Not full of shit, but it's hard to top the smugness of the Boss Hafza.

>>55372781
But Asawiras can beat any three CC expert of the Sphere at the same time, he has earned to be a little smug.

>>55372904
And misses. The Fusi then crits.

>PanO BS.exe

>>55373021

>laughing_domaru_butai.jpeg

>>55373031
Tell me about it.

>Crane MR tries to triangulate fire Fusi ML
>gets critted and bagged

>>55373017

True, in terms of models, Boss Hafza is the smuggest motherfucker in the game.

>>55373054
>purring_Chimera.gif

>>55373031

Can Fusilier break 20 BS or get Fatality?

>>55373076

Now I wanna see a comic where 3 of the CC specialists from every faction run train on an Asawira.

>>55373017

Nah, he's full of shit.

>>55373100
Theoretically, if the target is marked, the range is optimal and he is in a link. Lack of shotguns bar Bipandra is a shame, though. Dat +6.

>>55373218

Okay, so a link of Fusiliers against a marked Zhanshi have higher-than-average odds of critting.

I'm trying to work out how this metaphorical Fusilier's BS let him crit through the Zhanshi's Burst.

Seems like an awful lot of work to change a lightbulb tho.

>>55363229
>Panoceania if top
I can confirm

I should finish up my last Red Veil zhanshi tonight or tomorrow, so perhaps I'll try taking some pics and get some critique on the paint work. Then I've got the tiger soldier planned, and finally I can work on my beloved HI units.

>>55373121
>Asawira challenges any 3 fighters to take him on
>Oniwaban, Shinobu and a Samaritan come up
>he survives in one piece only because their monoblades shorted out on each other

>>55373758
> their monoblades shorted out on each other

This makes 0 sense.

>>55363229
>>55373561
>playing both PanO and Nomads
Guess that explains the bisexuality

>>55373787
I was referring to the fluff how the monoblades are not some super-sharp blades, but are actually held together by EM fields and could be disabled by EM ammo in 2ed. But :effort:

>>55363229
>Nomads if you're a bottom
I play Nomads and Ariadna, does it make me a furry cock-hungry faggot?
or is it unrelated?

>>55373925

But why would the fighters be so incompetent that they would short out the weapons of their allies? These are the elite, they would certainly be able to know how to fight while avoiding hitting their allies. Like, the Samaritan would probably not care about cutting his allies but I doubt he would be so careless as to allow his weapon be compromised.

>>55373269
That's why PanO is Number 1 and YJ eternal 2. We don't shy away from challenges.

>>55373972
Samaritan prefers to eat his victims anyway.

>>55373959
>I play Nomads and Ariadna, does it make me a furry cock-hungry faggot
I think we all know the answer to that question

>>55374042
Basically this, nobody wants a superpower "made in China"

>>55373071

Turks are generally quite smug about being Turkish.

Fuck CB, stupid retarded mexican company full of lazy people. They'll never get big.

>>55374584

Uh, okay?

>>55374664
The N3 ruleset is overly complex for the most stupid reasons. Any competent game designer can make a game 90% similar to infinity with a 100 pages rulebook.

>>55374664
>mexican

Source?

>>55374671

I mean, Hafza are in the Turkish sectorial. And Turks are known for having quite a bit of ethnic pride. I'm merely explaining why there's another level to the humor of it for me.

>>55374753

Source?

>>55374804

For Turkish ethnic pride?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

>>55374903
Fuckin kek'd

>>55367790

Rebuild OVAs or the original television run plus End of Evangelion?

>>55374903

Turkish Sectorial but thank you for spreading knowledge about the Armenian Genocide.

>>55375323

Qapu Khalqi is the Turkish sectorial. In Infinity Army you can just select it after clicking on the Haqqislam icon to see what units it has.

>>55375369

Where does it say they are Turkish?

I assume they draw soldiers from all over Haqqislam and the Human Sphere.

>>55375455

They do, especially considering they're the most mercenary of the sectorials, though the Hafza specifically are actually the Sultan's men. Still, the vast majority of the non-merc units in their sectorial are going to be Turkish or at least Haqqislamite.

>>55375527
> the vast majority of the non-merc units in their sectorial are going to be Turkish

Source?

>>55375630
The Sultanate being Turkish you great big nig.

>>55375981
>The Sultanate being Turkish you great big nig.

Source?