Pathfinder General /pfg/

To those what were wondering,

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/88190/the-dukes-coin

is voice and text, not just voice only. I saw some people asking about it in the last thread.

>>55226366
None!

All the games I liked were real, and I got into all of them to boot.

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>>55226463
There just isn't a voice and text option.

Feel free to apply anyway and I'll put it to a majority vote on if we go text or voice.

>>55226366
Ensoulment, where I got bamboozled and my character is being used as an NPC.

>>55226463
>voice and text

Like, IC in text while ooc is in voice?

>>55226366
The worst bamboozle was realizing the game wasn't a bamboozle, and I was actually picked.

>>55226549
Name the character
You won't

>>55226366
None because I don't associate with /pfg/ outside of /pfg/

>>55226549
Unless you explicitly asked, your character isn't an NPC.

>>55226611
>I don't associate with /pfg/ outside of /pfg/
Truly this is the one true path

>>55226911
>associating with /pfg/ at all
We've fallen off the true path long ago.

>>55226544
I want Florence Nightingale to give me disciplinary action!

Can a life oracle choose to take inflict spells as their freebies and still take channel positive energy?

I see little reason to keep the cure spells around since I'm also taking Pei zin which has free lay on hands.

>>55226987
No. You either channel evil and use inflict or channel positive and use cures.

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>>55226943
get in line bro

>>55226557
Pretty sure you're allowed to use either or, period.

>>55226617
Wait, does that mean the Ancap Man is an NPC right now?

So I want to ask anyone from intrigue game. Is DHB as over optimized as people say he normally is? Is it disruptive? How is playing with him?

>>55227455
Literally who fucking cares?

>>55225979
Reminder that living world heresy needs to be burnt at the stake.

Or we could all just app with some meme shit.

>>55227455
>"I am going to do thing [descriptive text of Anon describing his actions]"
>"Ok roll X"
>For no reason other than seeing the prompt, DHB also rolls X, scoring better than you possibly ever could, even with a nat 20
>This happens for the rest of the campaign, leaving you sitting in the corner hoping to be *allowed* to do anything.
>"lmao whats wrong? I'm helping the party!"

>>55227484
Nice false flag faggot, everyone here knows better to pass that shit anything more than a passing glance.

So, if you put Baba Yaga in an Antimagic Field, can you permanently kill her, since her immortality is Su and not Ex?

>>55227554
It would be extremely painful

>>55227568

Ess you.

>>55227554
No. She's too plot magic laden and her entire being is about the universe bending over and letting the Old Crone use her besom to fuck it in return for being higher CR than most of every other creature that can claim to be on the cusp of divinity.

>>55227516
Shit this seriously happens? What a piece of shit.

>>55227568
She's a big girl.

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>>55227516

>>55227516
Maybe don't try and specialize in the same thing as DHB?

>>55227607
Isn't Baba Yaga literally so powerful that she has the option of becoming a God at any time but chooses not to because it would be too much of a hassle?

>>55227796
Yeap. Gods have rules and when somebody doesn't play by the rules you get trapped in a planet. Cr30 Humanoid (human) can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't provoke divine intervention.

>>55227783
>The guy who specializes in pretty much every thing that matters
No prob anon, I'm sure the rest of the party would be perfectly happy to specialize in swimming and basket weaving.

>>55227516
You think people would do that? Go on the internet and tell lies?

>>55227869
>>55227783
He literally better at every skill, defense, and offense than the rest of the party even on a nat 20 He has no weak points. He's the best at literally everything.

>>55227932
How's the roleplay, though?

>>55227970
What about no weak points do you not understand?

>>55227970
DHB is the Kars of roleplaying.

>>55227932
>>55227986
>>55228002
If it try really really hard, could I be like DHB when I grow up?

>>55227970
It's pretty shit, desu.

>>55227970
Mostly nonexistent.

>>55228184
Yes, little larva! You can! You can! Just remember to eat your greens and drink your milk.

>>55227986
I'm hearing all this talk of mechanics, but that's not telling me about the roleplay, anon. I'm asking how the roleplay is.

>>55227970
Capable of silliness, almost always dead serious. Even when it's to the detriment of flow.

>>55228187
>>55228216
What game are you in with him?

>>55227625
Not at all, this is some anon theorizing what it's like to play with DHB

The reality is that he does his job well and is the most liked character and interesting character in the game so far.

>>55228312
Hi DHB

>>55227625
He's a lot better in Legacy. In that game, he's only number 2 at literally everything.

>>55228323
Wrong. DHB wouldn't try and defend himself, he'd ask what he could do better.

>>55228345
Or apologize/be self deprecating.

>>55227455
What's dhb?

>>55228337
I mean what's wrong with that?

>>55228382
>>55228337
He's not that bad in Legacy. He doesn't have a lot of the skills that are being called for and has just had some rotten luck. I'd say he's mildly optimized in that.

>>55228442
How is his roleplay in legacy?

>He doesn't have a lot of the skills that are being called for
What do you mean?

>>55228478
It's getting better. He was wooden at first, but now his character is loosening up and having a personality besides getting shit done.

>>55227932
You should inspect his character sheet and bring it up with the GM. There is a consistent tendency with that individual's characters that I've noticed, dating all the way back to the RotJR character that started it all, and that is to take highly situational bonuses from miscellaneous class features and report them as static, "always on" bonuses.

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Alright /pfg/ Its ime to take a step back and look at yourself. Take a long, hard look at yourself and what you do as a player.

Now, after some introspection tell me, what's that one reoccuring theme or gimmick that you've only just now realized that you keep doing with all of your characters and builds?

Me, personally, I keep making Wis based builds all the time, even when I don't intend to.

>>55229130
>what's that one reoccuring theme or gimmick that you've only just now realized that you keep doing with all of your characters and builds?

I tend to make older white male characters that endure some sort of tragedy or hardship in their backstory, though mechanically they always tend to be martials with a heavy focus on Wisdom.

>>55229130
All my characters meet 2/3 of these:
Minimum of 14 Int, decent Cha, low Wis. Usually characters who are a good deal more clever than they appear.

Always some sort of hardship or isolating incident in their backstory, but it's self-inflicted; brought on by the character's choices, rather than fate or luck.

Always good and/or lawful.

>>55229130

'Hilariously Tragic' backstories, sexually charged characters, and a tendency to quirk eyebrows and roll shoulders.

>>55229147
Hi Slow!

Any fun games on the horizon?

>>55226609
Alexander

>>55226617
I didn't reach out at all after picks were made, but one of the players PMed me to let me know that Protag said my character was slotted to make an appearance without my knowledge.

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>>55229130
Since most of my gaming experience outside of pathfinder consists of Call of Cthulhu and Warhammer 40k roleplay, I'll be the first to admit that my range is a little narrow.

While I try my best when it comes to writing up my PF characters, I invariably fall back on my tried and tested character archetypes of unscrupulous spook, angry cop, religious fanatic, unhelpful bureaucrat, mad scientist, amoral spellcaster and the occasional frightened imbecile.

I mean, I'm trying my best to break out of my comfort zone and try to come up with something a little more "anime" for your games but I guess old habits just die hard.

>>55229130
Younger men, usually with Charisma as their main mental stat, almost always martials, either Lawful, Good, or both.

Somehow they always end up being adopted, from a broken home, or otherwise having serious issues with their family that are a major part of what defines them.

>>55229147
Slow.

>>55229255
Disk.

>>55229406
Slow.

Any other challengers?

>>55229439
*Sleep, not Slow. Fuck your four word Sl names.

>>55229453
>s l e e p
>four word
Sounds like you need some sleep yourself

>>55229130
Cute Girls who just want to be heroes but can't be one because of a plot aspect

>>55229130
>Me, personally, I keep making Wis based builds all the time, even when I don't intend to.
>>55229130
I have the opposite problem: I keep wanting to put together a Wis character and they end up turning into Int based builds.

>>55229477
Sappy. Come on, guys you need to make it a little harder for us to guess.

>>55229292
IKiD!
Cute as always

What's with all the DHB bullying? Most of the time the worst I hear about him is 'he's kinda stiff until he gets comfortable with the group'. It seems like people are hardcore bullying now.

>>55229523

No, actually.

>>55229130
Somehow, via spells, class abilities, fey pacts, artifacts or what have you my characters always end up with the ability to just check out of reality.
Some way to say 'nope' and fuck off to a private demiplane or other type of solitude location that can't be gotten to where they can stay indefinitely with no trouble, usually while immortal and having a way to scry on the outside world. Invariably, they'll never end up using them.

>>55229528
It must be a slow day, for DHB's creepy stalker to come out of hiding.

>>55229512
wrong

>>55229130
They're all reflections of my irl depression and never any fancy races

>>55229577
Or false flagging for sympathy points and attention.

>>55229598
Would DHB false flag?

>>55229644
Of course, all celebs do.

>>55229644
No, he doesn't do that. He's tone-deaf at times, but that feeds into him being very straightforward.

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>>55229130
I tend to make grapplers even when they aren't necessary.

>>55229462
GO
TO
BED

>>55229130
I seem incapable of creating characters that, even with their varied backstories and personalities, aren't emotionally driven nerds at heart. The only one that comes to mind that has broken that mold has been my latest Starfinder character, and that's because I went in the complete opposite direction and made him a literal stony faced Gargoyle who doesn't say much but when he does it's important to listen.

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>First session - Coastline and farm random encounter tables
>Second session - not!Spartan deserters + Ankheg
>Third session - Orc initiators

What would be a good transition to Sahuagin? My players are coming up on the Twelfth Seros War (AD&D conversion). The sea devils will have maneuvers, and maybe psionics. The PCs own property in a major port city since they don't want to farm. One of them will be involved in Velsharoon's apotheosis.

The PCs just made level four.

>>55229130
Regret.

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Okay, so I'm trying to basically make a super Saiyan.

>Monk of the Four Winds archetype
>Takes Aspect of Ki-Rin at lvl 17
>Human race bonus
>Vow of Chains
>Vow of Poverty
>Hadouken feat
>Point blank shot feat
>Precise shot feat
>Focused strike feat
>Deadly Aim

Aspect of Ki-rin turns him gold and silver with long hair so that's a plus for super Saiyan aesthetics, but is this a viable build to blast people with Kamehame-hadoukens?

>>55229130
The only thing I can say ALL of my characters have had is 10+ int. That's strictly mechanical, though. Varied backstories, genders, heights, weights, races, psychological profiles, etc. There are trends, like I prefer martials over casters, but I can't honestly say I have them share some aspect or trait. Maybe I'm being too literal when thinking of "all" my characters. I suppose only 3 had children, and none of them had living spouses. That's more to justify running off to do stupid dangerous shit in caves than as an overarching theme. None of them were bald?

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What the fuck is a decent 3rd level sorcerer spell for dungeon building/crowd control? All I've got is 5 uses of Explosive Runes and I feel like I might need something else some day.

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>>55230186
Conjuration - Ash Storm, Sleet Storm, and Spiked Pit, if your DM allows it.

What is your bloodline?

>>55230186
Aqueous Orb, Hydraulic Torrent/Waves of Blood, Spiked Pit, stinking cloud, Chain of Perdition, Wall of Nausea, and Slow are good.
Final Sacrifice is situational, but still good for dealing with summoned monsters

>>55229130
I like to play outlaws and criminals, usually tragic characters who, had they the opportunity of a normal life, could've turned out differently. I am also generally a sucker for stories about redemption and forgiveness so, whether they're able to rediscover their self-determination and find some sort of modicum of redemption or it all tragically falls apart with them ultimately failing to restore their self-respect/honor/whatever. Its all fun.
I do also enjoy playing characters who aren't mentally tough as a rock, who're dealing with both the insecurities and stress caused by their profession(Usually a freelancer/adventurer) and their personal issues which the lifestyle has brought to the surface.

>>55230531
Reminds me of the guy in my old group who played Good characters to prove how hypocritical people with moral codes were.

>>55230318
>>55230486
Infernal Tiefling Sorcerer, I thought it was a good idea at the time but I've been feat starved to hell and back because of it.

Thanks for the help, though despite all the recommendations I've decided to go with Marionette Possession due to having a surplus of willing individuals.

>>55230656
I had a GM like that.

It made playing a literal angel all the sweeter.

>>55229130
>ALWAYS have 12+ Int bare minimum, if they're not Int-based to begin with, with maybe one exception
>ALWAYS have 14 Con, with barely any exceptions
>at least one living family member to cheer them on, even if they never actually show up and/or are never relevant
>they tend to be fucked in the head one way or another, but it's hard to really do anything with it since adventurers by nature are fucked in the head

>>55229130
>always have some vice and/or motivator that keeps them going even if it's bad for them
>family isn't around for one reason or another

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>>55229130
Cursed with horrible luck.

It's not so much a writing quirk as much as fate had forced it upon me, I once made a character with the express goal to kill the first character I ever played in under the pretense that "they were the ones where the curse originated from"

I still want to play that character, but every game I try to play them in dies within the first few sessions.

>>55230819
The fact that "horrible luck" and "fantastic luck" aren't things you can base a character around in Pathfinder is one of the great letdowns I have with the system.

>>55230901
"Fantastic Luck" is literally what the Archeologist archetype represents.

>>55230901
I can understand why they want to avoid it. Probability alteration in a dice based game is a slippery slope, though it does make for fun ideas.

>>55230943
That's pretty good, but one archetype for one class isn't exactly the widespread options one would hope for, after all Bards aren't the only ones that can have good/bad luck.

>>55230974
I dunno, Witches are all about probability manipulation with some of their hexes.

>>55230901
The closest you'll get is
>Classes/archetypes that can get luck bonuses (classes with Divine Favor, a Destined Bloodrager, Archeologist bard)
>REROLLS. ALL THE REROLLS.

>>55231012
Funnily enough if you get enough things that let you do rerolls your enemy being able to corner you and say "Your luck has run out" would have a literal meaning if you'd actually run out of x/day rerolls of things.

I just found out about divine fighting techniques but im not sure how they work.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/divine-fighting-technique-combat/

Do I get acess to the advanced benifit as soon as I meet the prerequisites ?
If I chose the optional prerequisites do I need to take the optional advanced prerequisites?

>>55231112
>Do I get acess to the advanced benifit as soon as I meet the prerequisites?
Yes.
>
If I chose the optional prerequisites do I need to take the optional advanced prerequisites?
No.

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What are some good mythic arcane spells? Already have Fireball and Haste.

>>55231202
I like Ear-Piercing Scream, Web, and Enlarge Person.

>>55231202
Telekinesis is a great one. You don't have to concentrate on it

>>55210428

>Elven Curved Blade: Worth the feat?

Fuck no, not unless you are a fighter with feats to spare.

Now, is it worth 1500G? That's a much more reasonable price.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/h-l/ioun-stones/opalescent-white-pyramid-ioun-stone/

If your class can use martial weapons, just grab this.

>>55229368
Nice try, but that didn't happen. It would always be with your knowledge.
Then again, I don't believe you're really Grim. You're just someone Grim talked to about it, aren't you?

Admit it.

>>55229930
No one liked my super Saiyan? :(

>>55229930
It's not strong enough

>>55229930
>Vow of Poverty
Why do you hate yourself?

>>55229528
I want DHB to get stiff with me~

>>55229930
Just make a Kineticist or a UCMonk instead, or heck if 3pp is allowed (which I assume it is considering you got the Hadouken feat), then maybe a SoP Mageknight would be better, or a DSP Mystic with Fool's Errand

So long story short my players beat me in s drunken bet and now I have to give class levels to a tyrannosaurus. /pfg/, what class should Thaddeus T. Thunderlizard be?

>>55232510
What are his mental scores and alignment? This is the most important question first

>>55232535
Intelligence 8 due to a circlet and generations of selective breeding. I would say he's lawful neutral

>>55229591
Succ

>>55232555
*Intelligence 7 according to my notes

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>>55229130
Characters with nationalist ideals, though they tell no one.

>>55229130
Strong beliefs and a tragedy in their history, but that isn't very unique. I tend to keep it pretty diverse, come to think of it.

>>55232301
I don't understand

>>55232462
Can a UCmonk still take the Four winds archetype?

>>55232555
Warpriest, Fighter, Ranger, UC Monk, Inquisitor, Hunter, or Kineticist. Take advantage of your amazing Str, Con, and decently 15 Wis.

What level is he going to be?

>>55232628
By RaW, no, but it should be easy enough to convert it.

>>55232628
>I don't understand
Listen son, as a Martial character if you wanna stay viable at higher levels, basically the whole game past lvl 5, you're going to rely HEAVILY on magic items and stuff. Sadly, Vow of Poverty prevents you from getting and using such items, and honestly the minor and underwhelming"benefit" you get from the vow is completely not worth it by any means. Vow of Poverty is trash, and no sane person should use it or the Monk Vows as they currently are.

By taking Vow of Poverty, you're essentially making yourself into literally the weakest character in the game. You won't be a Super Saiyan, the Wizard will be closer to that. By comparison your Hercule Satan, but without any of the money or fame

>>55232644
Level 3. The more ridiculous the better. Know any good archetypes? He'll obviously be fighting unarmed

>>55232510
Spiritualist, with either the Involutionist, Extoplasmist, Phantom Blade, or Totem Spiritualist Archetype

>>55232699
By that same token, any Saiyan worth their salt wouldn't be caught dead trying to rely on magical items to make themselves stronger, and if it's really such an issue then just port the 3.5 version of Vow of Poverty and wham bam thank you ma'am you're back up and running.

>>55232699
>>55232644
Yikes. I guess I'll have to find some other way to make it work.

>>55229130
I have a tendency to try and be unique snow flake one way or another but I try not to be obnoxious about it

>>55232802
Play a different system

>>55232644
>>55232745
Alright it looks like we're going with unchained monk. Let's max out that stealth skill and focus on flurry of blows. WE WILL BECOME THE CLEVER GIRL

>>55232872
Oh yeah totally agree, then again if you're looking to play a Saiyan with anything below like, level 10 as a starting base you're doing it wrong.

>>55232704
First of all, for any of the builds with Unarmed options, especially UC Monk, take Feral Combat Training for your Bite (image your Flurry of Bites, combined with your Grab special abilities). Also, Kraken Style or some other grappling based style might be interesting. Now, Serpent -Fire Adept might not be an optimal Archetype, but it could work for you. Plus, the power boost of being a TRex makes it so I feel you can even take an archetype vanilla Monk and find some fun stuff to do with it. Go nuts.

For Warpriest, Disenchanter, Arsenal Chaplain, and maybe Sacred Fist might be interesting.

The mental image of a Preacher Inquisitor T rex is hilarious to me. Also, just imagine a Tyrannosaurus is Torquemada esque robes

>>55232934
For Extra Clever, I suggest the Brazen Disciple Archetype to get WIS to Bluff and Disguise, as well as the ability to Feint in your Flurry

>>55232802
Save for Scouters, healing pods, Saibamen, ships, Power Poles, and all the other stuff that they relied on having the Frieza Empire supply them with

>>55232953
>Wis to bluff and Disguise
>Maxed stealth
>Use of bite for fury of blows

>"What at first appeared to be a large pile of boulders has drop-kicked the paladin and is attempting to suplex the Bloodrager with it's teeth"


It's a good thing they're 8th level or I don't think they'd be ready for ninja-kung-fu-death-kaiju

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>>55233176
>What at first appeared to be a large pile of boulders has drop-kicked the paladin and is attempting to suplex the Bloodrager with it's teeth
This is perfect. Stealing it

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>look at T Rex
>Crunch the numbers
>Without buffs, items, and such, a Companion Tyrannosaurus will.never reach the same strength as a wild one

>>55233333
If you look at it and crunch the numbers you're never going to be stronger than a Chimpanzee, but that doesn't mean you won't kill it with a sword.

Question about kineticist blast size growth (porphyra):

What is the growth pattern for composite blasts? Simples are d6, which arguably become d8 but what about composites? Does 2d6 become 2d8 or 3d6?

And say I have an item that does +1 damage per die: Is it +1 per d6 die for simples and +1 per 2d6 for composites? Is it +2 per 2d6 per composites? If the composite blast were to increase to 3d6 per grade of the blast as above, would that become +3 per grade as well?

>>55233363
Yes you can, even a gorilla only has 15 STR. Think before you post.

>>55234396
Okay, an ape has 15 Str to make things fair mechanically.

But realistically, a chimp or gorilla would have a Strength score somewhere in the low 20s at least.

>>55234430
Well, a lot of the strength apes have is derived from the fact that they can use more of their strength at all times than humans can.

Human muscles are capable of the same actions, it just requires the right stimuli.

long story short, it's less 'how strong are you' and more 'how much of your strength can you use'

Anyone here intimately familiar with the Kingmaker Campaign? I'm trying to find out how many level 13+ characters there are in that kingdom. I know there's the one Cleric in Restov who can rez, but are there any others I don't know about?

>inform GM that we're srly below the wpl corresponding to our level, like almost halve below, because we rarely find magic items or much gold
>GM "Ok, let me fix that"
>For the next 7 sessions we only fight large monsters and creatures
>Every magic item are armors and weapons that are large or even larger
>Can't use them
>Can't sell them because nobody wants them coz large
Fuck this GM, I'm out

>>55234965
Yeah, fuck DM's like that. Doubly so if they then go "Well, the caster's not having trouble." Of course not, dipshit, they don't need +x items of whatever to fight bigger and bigger monsters, they naturally gain power through better spells.

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So I thinking about playing a lizardman bloodrager or some kind of big martial class yah, but I was talking to the group I was gonna be joining and so far they have a tank like guy someone who somewhat qualifies as a healer and a titangrip berserker, so he was saying they would appreciate someone more apt with traps and the sneaking portion

What would fit thematically with a lizardman doing traps and sneaking. I kinda liked the idea of a tribal inquisitor lizardman, but I haven't really looked at many classes as I was thinking of what I might be while at work

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anyone got a link to the discord server?

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>>55234965
He sounds like a smart ass.

Run your own game.

>>55235058
Slayers are a martial class and has trapfinding.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/slayer

>>55234965
Passive agressive fags are the worst, I just recently left a group because the GM was one of this fags.

>Beg GM to play Umonk
>GM thinks I'm OP so I get almost no magic item, like srly I was in 8th level and I barely had 3000 GP in items
>Doesn't matter I deal less damage than the supposedly "secondary" martial (Urban Barbarian with beast totem and superstition)
>Doesn't matter I have way less HPs and AC than say barbarian (he had 28 AC compared to my 22 because he has magic items for his level, and he had 100+ HPs compared to my 60)
>Doesn't matter I end unconscious in almost every combat ever
>That doesn't matter, I'm OP because he thinks I'm OP and any fact is meaningless, so I get nothing and everything goes for the rest of the party
>Confront him
>He doesn't care about facts neither is going to change
And so I left

>>55235075
anyone?

I'm the guy from yesterday who's working on a "stat a community" program. I figured out why I was having such trouble with my calculations. I was doing the math linearly and trying to create a split. The issue being that it was basically impossible for a young person to have more levels than someone older than them. I was simply conflating life experience with level gain.

However!

I then remembered something a friend was telling me about from an L5R campaign; Exploding dice. Those who sought adversity, gaining a level from it, are more likely to make a similar gamble in the future! (And that can represent a merchant making a risky business decision or a smith pushing himself to the edge of his skill, not merely combat challenges.) Thus, by utilizing an exploding dice recursive method, characters who roll level growth in the first place, will gain more levels, properly simulating the divergence of the steady growth population and the ambitious persons who seek challenge.

Here is the breakdown from my latest test, utilizing a population of 450k (Approx the population of Brevoy in the PF standard Golarion setting). It seems pretty accurate ot a "We're all Heroes Now" sort of setting like Golarion. Maybe just a _bit_ high, but I can adjust the numbers a bit and run it again.

Total - 450000
Lvl Array
Lvl 01: 76901 17.09%
Lvl 02: 95778 21.28%
Lvl 03: 91460 20.32%
Lvl 04: 72542 16.12%
Lvl 05: 49859 11.08%
Lvl 06: 30747 06.83%
Lvl 07: 16989 03.78%
Lvl 08: 8677 01.93%
Lvl 09: 4082 00.91%
Lvl 10: 1788 00.40%
Lvl 11: 739 00.16%
Lvl 12: 286 00.06%
Lvl 13: 98 00.02%
Lvl 14: 41 00.01%
Lvl 15: 9 00.00%
Lvl 16: 3 00.00%
Lvl 17: 0 00.00%
Lvl 18: 1 00.00%
Lvl 19: 0 00.00%
Lvl 20: 0 00.00%

Highest Lvl Char: 18 74
Lowest Lvl Char: 1 109 (Poor dude got NO successful dice.)

>>55235075
https://discord.gg/KPKWdyr

I wish i gave a shit about any of the games recruiting

>>55235216
thankyou

>>55235104
Look pretty interesting, though the rouge does kinda tempt me. I'll be sure to keep this in mind though as I look over some other stuff

>>55235805
Slayer is effectively superior to the Rogue in most every way, save for being a skill monkey

>>55235227
What makes them uninteresting to you, anon?

>>55236099
A lot of things.

>>55236435

Well, go on, tell us the details!

>>55235203
I wonder how much larger the population has to be to reliably get someone at level 17 who doesn't just take another level on top.

Quotes from Reginald Q. Pennysworth, explorer extraordinaire!

>Giant? I believe you mean dire human.
>Mbutu! Fetch me my good wand!
>The goblin is a fascinating creature. My hypothesis is that they are a hive species and we have yet to find the queen
>I claim this Elven village in the name of the crown!

>>55226366
Curse of the Crimson Throne is kind of a bamboozle. It's ramped up to be this insurgency-style underground rebellion and then all of a sudden you're out doing a rep grind for barbarians to learn about magic shit.

DMing it right now in chapter 4 and wishing I had just scrapped ch4-6 to do the rebellion thing.

>>55238834

You could just cut it short if you're really feeling like it screws with the flow. It's entirely up to you.

Is there an enhancement or a feat that let you consider your wielded weapon as "another weapon"? Like, you're wielding a tetsubo, but the enhancement/feat let you consider it as a longsword for the sake of other feats or class features.

>>55233933
Since it's either fixed (Alteration Amplification, etc) or two steps (Esoteric Modification):

For steps, it goes 1>d2>d3>d4>d6>d8>d10>2d6>2d8>3d6>3d8 and so on.

a d6blast gaining two steps becomes d10s
2d6 becomes 3d6.

>>55227516
>>55227455
The only way DHB is "overoptimized" in Intrigue, at least, is the simple fact that he's the only pure martial in the party, and is decently designed to fill that role.

Other than that? No, anons are purely full of shit. DHB is a comfy guy.

For an Iron Mage Combat Hedgewitch focusing on war, alteration, and fate buffs, how effective will a quality/switch hitting build be compared to a straight str or dex build?

>>55240320

Generally, switch hitting requires more investment for less payoff, but you can probably make it work just fine with that setup.

>>55240798

If it helps, Elephant in the Room is in use.

>>55240224
What's his character like? I'm curious. I like hearing stories.

>>55241000

In that case, you're probably golden.

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>>55235203
Can anyone find a city from Forgotten Realms 3.0/3.5 that has as a population of 450k?

>>55230901
Fortune fucking Thief archetype for Vigilante.

>>55242593
Maybe one of the biggest capitals?
I mean Menzoberanzan (however you spell that) has something like 6 million chaotic good drow ranger followers of eillistrae by now....

>>55230901
Defiant Luck
Inexplicable Luck
Lucky
Lucky
Lucky

Level 7, 7 uses of inexplicable luck, honestly wish it was +7 instead of +8 for more 7s.

What spells should I ban if I don't want casters to completely negate a fight on the first turn, but also don't want to be too heavy handed with it? I'm thinking the Create Pit line of spells, maybe Stinking Cloud, what else?

>>55229130
Joke characters but I try to optimize them.

Halfling Stalker with dips to shadowdancer and Hellcat Stealth with ungodly stealth checks to hide in plain sight 5ever.

Blue Vitalist (guardian) with minmaxed healing/temp hp solutions, but 5 strength so I needed to use starting gold to buy a riding dog just to carry my quarterstaff. The dog was a tweaked out whippet because I thought it'd be funnier.

Grippli Druid with a tortoise animal companion that he insisted on riding everywhere. The tortoise got barding before he even got armor.

I could go on.

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Friend of mine want to run a session of Pathfinder for me and two other mates (me and one of them will be 1st time players in RPG ever).
Setting is ancient egypt themed, so we're all hyped and want to sink into that world.

I checked classes avaliable, and I'm thinking about starting with a shaman.
Backstory would be simple: my character would get near-death-experience because of exhaustion on dessert during his travel. In last grasp of consciousness, he'd pray for mercy to gods. Fact is, that one of his ansestors was a shaman, but he in person never showed any kind of that abilities (he was regular human, small trader, noone more). Those abilities manifested that time (uncontrolled), and he was posessed by spirit of Bast (or just one of her minions), who kept him alive, but for price - spirit is controling his body as long as spirit/familiar is present.
During adventure he would be competiting to get control over his body with spirit, but for most of time it will be spirit talking and doing stuff - most of dialogues would be in 3rd person, spirit and character would have diffrent motives and vievs on people/quests etc.

What do you think?

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I am thinking of giving my newbie paladin unsanctioned knowledge as a background feat for why her character is on the run from her own church but hasnt fallen. Any sugestion for spell choices?

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>>55242746
>http://www.realmshelps.net/faerun/underdark/geography.shtml

The population size and level distribution would have been cut down a lot after the War of the Spider Queen.

The higher level people would have gained a level after surviving it, and they would have captured more low level slaves to replace the thralls they lost.

>>55242826
1- Protection from Good
2- Death Knell
3- Animate Dead
4- Unholy Blight

>>55242826
paladins can even turn entirely hostile to their god and still not fall.

they'll be hunted as fuck, but falling's a different matter entirely not related to their deity.

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>>55242910
Um, something that wouldnt make her fall..... well turns out paladins dont have any restrictions from casting oposite alignment spells, raw. Proably because they typically cant get them normally. Chaos hammer is a personal fav.

Utility sugestions. No arcane caster in the party, Oracle and barb.

>>55242983
>paladins can even turn entirely hostile to their god and still not fall.
On Golarion and in most established settings they.

>>55243147
>>55243147
*can't.

Fuck me.

Can someone give me character art for a man who is 18 Str/12 Dex/12 Con/16 Cha but in his mid 40s a hard lived 40s too. I need to give a visual aid for my character's look outside of armor.

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>>55243338

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>>55243413

What's the most evil character to come out of a /pfg/ game?

>>55243509
Probably Shane the Shy.

>>55243509
Falafel. He is the perfect brand of irredeemably evil and petty

>>55243509

Any character IDrive plays by association.

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How's everyone doing today?

>>55244294
The middle one works with customers

>>55242593
I did say that it was based on the kingdom of Brevoy, and not a singular settlement.

>>55237476
To reliably do so? I'm not sure, but I've also got to adjust the numbers overall. My random age function currently weighs all ages equally, but people weren't as likely to make it to old age in the medieval period; war, famine, pestilence, etc. So the level generation will need some adjustment after I've update the age generation.

What feats do I need for a lancer?

I assume Spirited charge and wheeling charge are the basics but what else should I add? 1pp only for this one please.

What about my mount? any specific feats I can use to make it better?

Should I build my next golem out of brains or hearts? If the former, do the mental stats of the people I harvest from matter, and if the latter should I make it able to envelop victims or would it be better to give it blood lasers?

>>55244616
Monstrous Mount and get a Griffon who. while only 30ft speed and 40ft fly (20ft when mounted) it is far more devastating on it's own, a wolf or a horse if you have no intention of grabbing Monstrous Mount. Ride by attack of course. Furious Focus if you intend to abandon the shield or get a quickdraw one so that you never suffer from power attack when you charge. Mounted Skirmisher and Trick Riding if you come to a situation where charging is not an option.

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What's your war face, /pfg/?

>>55243641


So, Can't wait to join starstone huh?

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>>55244704

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So! How was your weekend, /pfg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?

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>>55244704

>>55244739
I found out I didn't get a job; This weekend will mark 9 months without one

>>55235115

Did you call him a fag before you left?

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>>55244739
Game got cancelled

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>>55244823

I'm sorry to hear that, anon. Have you considered using a temp agency?

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>>55244879

Was there a scheduling conflict?

>>55244887
I haven't really considered it. I've been trying to get a job where I can use my degree

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>>55244917
Yeah, one of the group members had to do something important at last minute.

I haven't played in around half a year

>>55244739
Our plan imploded so we improvised. And by improvise I mean murdered. And by murder I mean mass murder. And by mass murder I mean blocking the door of a barn on fire while cultists try to escape the painful death by smoke inhalation.

>>55244294
I've accepted the fact I'm not going to accomplish anything in life.

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>>55244980

As a member of a party that's been menaced by cultists to no small degree, I can empathize. What happened that the situation became that dire?

>>55245024
You know how blaster wizards either forget or don't care that they are throwing fireballs in a barn full of dried hay with plenty demonic tapestries, incense and several variations on oil are prone to catching fire? Well, he our party didn't have a blaster wizard so we thanked the heavens.
But then our trigger happy gunslinger decides that throwing his white hot pistol into the hay is a good way to discard a broken piece of crap.

>>55244739
Pretty good fennecanon!

Spent the weekend hangout with friends I haven't seen since graduation, and playing Starfinder.

Got some lore done for one of my campaigns, and finished up a pitch for one of the games I'm thinking of running.

>>55244711
No, and I hope it crashes, burns, and dissolves, forcing IDrive to leave in shame and never return. We will be made better as a hobby for his absence.

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>>55245163

Oh? Any particularly enjoyable moments spent with your old buddies? How's your experience with Starfinder?

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>>55244739
I only have two games right now and I left one of them. It was a starfinder rando that I hoped would make for a decent distraction.

I could have had a shot at way of the wicked if I didnt waste time on that game but I was fool enough to think that it would have turned out otherwise.

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>>55244739
More Agriculture Adventures:

>Third player (Halfling Rogue/Bard) never showed up, or answered my email, but I made a Halfling Warlord/Bard VMC Rogue
>Other two players never sent me anything about their characters these last two weeks
>Start rolling for six weeks of downtime
>Gold Dwarf Ordained Defender/Forgemaster of Dumathoin wants to build an Altar
>Moon Elf Kensai/Evoker wants to build a False Front
>They want to build in the big city instead of the farmland they were awarded
>Nearby Mageduel creates a Wild Magic event and unearths some Untherite ruins
>Race orcs to ruins
>PCs are given horses and leave the next morning
>Encounter A: Half-orc Hawkguard - Dwarf runs at him after getting disarmed and shot twice (Music: FF15 - Stand Your Ground)
>Encounter B: 2 Wolves - Elf hides behind the halfling archer while he's in melee and shoots a wolf
>Elf player rolls for Knowledge (History) for the pregen, and realizes the ruins are actually Imaskari, and millenia older than they thought
>Load Gamemastery Map: Ruins
>No one passes any Knowledge or Linguistic checks to know more
>Halfling detects and disarms the first two traps
>Encounter E: Gelatinous Cube - No problem, but find too many coins to carry out. Also find a plot hook.

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>>55245239

I take it the game didn't go particularly well?

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>>55245241
>Halfling misses the third trap, and Dwarf is hit with Burning Hands
>Encounter G: Half-orc Vigilante (Stalker) and two Orc Fighters - Elf uses Blindness on the Vigilante before he can use any maneuvers
>Dwarf gets surrounded and taken down to 1/3 hp
>PCs stay in ruins overnight
>Dwarf knocks over a statue to see if it or the base had anything
>He can prepare Make Whole tomorrow
>Night falls
>Orc siege of building (Music: FFT - Night Attack)
>Cannot find Here Lies Balin song
>Dwarf still thinks he is playing his Ranger/Druid, and tries to build a trap
>He settles for leaving two barrels of oil at the entrance and readying an action to ignite them with Alchemist Fire
>Elf and Halfling pick off two orcs
>Dwarf hides behind two stone desks
>Dwarf still taunting them to come in, but the orcs don't take the bait
>Orcs try breaking through magically reinforced stone walls, but give up and leave before morning
>PCs backup shows up
>PCs make level four

I have to audit the Dwarf character sheet next session, since a lot of stuff was missing this session.

I'm not giving them any more pregens. They can pay for hirelings. They'll also be fighting more Initiators.

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>>55245241
>>55245263

Sounds like an exciting time for all. Any particular surprises you have in store, or would that be telling?

>>55245241
What was the manner and shape of the plot hook?

>>55245231
We got to watch the Death Note movie, and drank heavily throughout. It was lovely.

Got to play my Steamer/Spacetube/Internet Celebrity Envoy, who was a barrel of fun. Though, I must say I'm not a fan of the system as a whole; money is too scarce, too many classes/builds are outright useless, and you absolutely need someone with maxed piloting, engineering, and computers in order to interact with a good portion of the content. Not even Perception or Diplomacy were that important in PF.

They claimed that SF did away with trap options, but it's now worse than ever.

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>>55245330
I don't think they come here. It's currently Eleasis (August) 1368 DR in the campaign.

The plot hook they found was a "platinum crown with smoky quartz (morion) (800 gp)," which is required for Velsharoon's ascension from lich to demigod. The elf is one of his cultists.

Neither of the PCs has the skills necessary to find and stop Harper spies, so I don't know how I'm going to make an adventure out of helping his apotheosis.

Next year, the Twelfth Seros War starts. Sahuagin and other sea monsters will attack every village and city on the coast. The PCs must defend their property and enclaves.

>>55245262
I was quite literally not allowed to do anything as the GM rigged the game around the actions of his friends.

Every time I try to do something he either downright ignores me, pms me not to do it in favor of one of his friends, on the times he allows it he makes a circus of the test as he fishes for a failure on my part and a success on his friends part. There is many instances but one particular situation stood out.

>Dungeon crawl as we explore some cave full of spider ayys
>We find the hull of a ship that apparently crashed into the mountain
>Explore ship in hopes of reactivating it as our ticket out of said jungle planet
>He discourages taking 10 on rolls, thus far, every single take 10 I make is an autofail despite my maxed skill mod
>Run into a terminal
>Being the party technomancer, I begin working on the terminal
>GM makes me roll computers, likely banking on a failure so one of his homies can take my place
>I roll a nat 20 scoring a 28, the highest possible result one could get at this level
>He immediately makes me roll perception saying that its in a language that I don't understand
>I roll a 14, pretty good, I am happy to be allowed to do something for once
>Nope, apparently an 18 perception isnt good enough at level 1
>I ask him if I can use culture, he denies me this check saying 'lmao aliens u never seen this shit before' much like other situations where I try to do something that I'm good at like identifying aliens with science
>He makes me back off the terminal saying nope, I failed and and makes the only other guy with tech do it, (one of his homies, with a much lower mod mind you)
>His homie rolls low
>"Lmao feel free to take 20"
>His homie autopasses the check
>"Ok roll percep"
>His homie rolls low again
>"Lmao feel free to take 20"
>The terminal registers his homie as captain of the new ship

Jesus chirst, I told him from the start that I never wanted the position but I guess he was afraid I would steal it.

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>>55245439
Like this, but made of platinum with smoky quartz gems embedded in it.

>>55245597
If they're on roll20, namedrop these faggots so we can avoid them please.

>>55245633
I normally don't like to namedrop but in this context, I'd also rather save some Anons the potential grief. They were that group that tried to recruit at sfg via discord. Me and some other sfg Anon took the bait and got in. GM was Shelf, His homies were Chillman, Yggdrasil and Tsuka.

I was a fool for keeping at it with the dozen other red flags like the nonstop stormwind and sfg hate rants. "Fuck sfg for criticizing solarian's poor design, don't they know that cha is the strongest stat in the game!" and constant attempts to shower with groups with favors like rewarding one of his niggers for a "well written" bio by grating him extra skill points.

>>55245633
Oh and his response when I pointed it out at the end of the session was. "Maybe we should remove all skill checks outright and just resolve the situation based on how well you roleplay it" . Hopefully it was sarcasm but if it was dead serious then I'm pretty sure whose roleplay he was going to side with.

>>55245799
Remember no racism anon.

>>55245799
>>55245750
>I was a fool for keeping...
Yes, yes you were, but thanks for suffering for our benefit!

May your next game go far better.

>>55245867
What can I say, someone has to take the lumps.
Too bad about that other Anon that chose to stay behind though. I'm pretty sure he got it way worse as the GM talked down on him for trying at all.

>>55245892
Hate when GMs do that. Like when they bring in their SO midway through a campaign and because the SO's build is marginally similar to yours (melee beatstick and knowledge guy) suddenly everything you do mysteriously fails including combat and they "pull your ass out of the fire" roll after roll from then on.

Fucking bullshit.

>>55246589
I never understood treating a SO differently. They came to play. If they fail, they fail. If they can't handle that, then don't play. No other game warps to make you successful when you fuck up or roll poorly. If you get mad, don't play.

What sort of animal or monster can be killed by a child with a spear in a strike of luck?

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Could a Zelda-style dungeon work (as in, be fun to play for most people without requiring certain 3PP materials or extensive houserules) in Pathfinder? Assume that when I say "Zelda-style", I mean a dungeon that meets at least four of the following criteria:

1) Has a particular item which, if not necessary to complete the dungeon the intended way, at least makes things much easier.

2) Has a definite boss that resides in a location which the PCs cannot reach early by the intended way.

3) Includes at least one puzzle, preferably one that the item from #1 helps solve.

4) Includes items or information analogous to map and/or compass to help the PCs navigate, and is large enough to make such things useful.

5) Allows numerous opportunities for the party to rest or otherwise regain their strength, allowing for each fight in the dungeon to assume the PCs are at or at least near full capacity, in order to mirror the plentiful hearts and magic potions of a Zelda game.

Just to clarify, these conditions don't need to be met in the same way a Zelda game would meet them. For example, for #1, a common Zelda item would be a bow or boomerang, but in Pathfinder the dungeon's "key item" would more likely be things like items that grant abilities like flight, water breathing, True Seeing, or complicated effects that open new doors (figuratively and literally) to how the PCs can explore. They'd also probably come in sets, so that each PC can get one.

Also, when I say "the intended way" through a dungeon, it's meant to imply that the dungeon was designed with a certain path in mind, but unlike in a Zelda game it is probably likely that the PCs could circumvent such "required" paths with some creative applications of their abilities. The dungeon shouldn't be designed or ran in such a way that railroads the PCs and completely negates any attempt they make at trying to find alternative ways through the dungeon, but should encourage a certain path.

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>>55247234
Only if the PCs are low level.

>Trying to build a dex paladin,
>small
>slashing grace
>+5 to dex
Do I build for the future with mithrial chainshirt (max dex+6) or hit my dex cap at mithrial breastplate (max dex +5) and take a 5 foot movement hit?

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>>55247418
Build for the future.

What's the best AP to turn into a lewdfest, /pfg/?

>>55247469
Jade Regent

>>55247485
And if I didn't want to spoil a campaign I'm in?

>>55247511
Skulls and Shackles.

>>55247127
I'm going to interpret "a strike of luck" as a critical hit that rolls max damage. For a child with a STR mod of 0 using a spear sized for a medium creature (1d8 damage with a x3 crit mod) that means 24 damage, so we're looking for creatures with 24 HP or less. The attack doesn't need to kill the creature outright, but does need to KO them (because even a child can perform a CDG).

As far as animals go, there's a pretty good handful. Any sort of domestic animal, like a common cat or dog or even a horse would die to damage like that, but so would some more wild beasts like a common boar or wolf. Just about any kind of normal, non-dire primate would be at least KO'd by 24 damage, from a gorilla to an orangutan. Most greater cats, like lions and tigers, won't be KO'd by 24 damage, but a mountain lion would be left at 2 HP and would probably flee after such a blow. It's not enough damage to KO something like a bear either, but it would be able to KO a common shark, which is well known as the "bear of the ocean".

As far as other kinds of monsters, it would be enough damage to kill something like any sort of humanoid assuming they aren't packing more than two or three class levels, so kobolds, goblins, and even orcs are on the table. The weakest sorts of extraplanar creatures, outsiders like a Lemure or Dretch and elementals of small size, could be knocked into the negatives even accounting for their DR. Likewise, many sorts of fae could be killed, the "biggest" of them probably being pixies or pookas. Even the youngest of true dragons wouldn't be KO'd by 24 damage, but some lesser dragons like shadow drakes would.

Really, just about anything of CR 1 or less, and some CR 2 enemies.

>>55247300
Yeah, I would expect this kind of thing to break down at higher levels, when caster can just bypass any reasonable barrier you could put in the dungeon and skill bonuses make most obstacles a breeze. I don't really like E6, but it might be good for that sort of thing.

>>55247469
Just make your own campaign senpai

Worked fine for PLD and Overlewd

>>55247549
Seconding this.

>>55247469
Way of the Wicked, easily.

>>55247589
What about just banning spells like Knock before the adventure begins so as to create a more interesting set of circumstances for the dungeons even at higher levels?

Your Rogue or Rogue equivalent can still do things like picking locks, but that's more for the various chests lying around, meanwhile the door locks are either not visible or have such heavy tumblers that you can't really "pick" them with standard tools.

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What's the first instinct when a relatively poor rural family feels like it is having too many children to feed? Keep doing it, sell them, force them to work, abandon them in the forest...?

>>55247730
Marry off the oldest.

>>55247469

Rise of the Runelords, unironically.

>>55244294
I can't breathe.

>>55244739
My players are facing off against a Bloatmage Wizard who serves Mammon. They are scared.

>>55247705
I think the problem with that is that it would require the DM to do a lot of work combing through spells to decide what has to be banned up front. It's not just Knock, after all. Most spells that grant or allow for some other form of movement like Fly, Water Breathing, Dimension Door, and Spider Climb would probably need to go, and any spell that provides an effect you were planning to make a key item for a dungeon out of would have to be banned as well.

I think starting at a lower level works best, because you can design the dungeons to work around what the PCs will have available to them at the time. For a dungeon the PCs will explore at level 3 or 4, you don't have to worry about them being able to use a spell like Fly to bypass cross giant pits or whatnot, and you could easily make a Flight-granting item that dungeon's key item (allowing you to know that in future dungeons that the PCs will definitely be able to fly). At later levels, you can similarly key obstacles to higher level spells the PCs couldn't yet have, like invisible objects and illusionary walls being good for an 8th level dungeon, before the PCs could use True Seeing. If you were to ban full casters, which you should probably be doing anyway if your game is tightly focused on an "intended path", you get to push off those "deadline" levels for which you can no longer assume the PCs won't have certain spells even further.

Some specific spells like Knock might be banned, low-level utility magic mostly, but I don't think banning spells is the best solution on its own.

>>55247869
That's the dream.

What kind of man/woman would marry their children to a tiefling?

>>55247946
An up and coming eugenicist or a person with an obsession for the correct sort of evil outsider.

>>55247946
Someone who doesn't care about the muddled fiendish heritage, someone who stands to benefit from it because of some external factor and can thus look past the fiendish heritage, or someone to whom the fiendish heritage would be a draw.

I hope you don't want a more specific answer without asking a more specific question.

>>55247990

Very well, they are steppe frontiersmen, an area of characterized constant raiding since the breakup of the khanates that used to rule the area. Father is a former brigandine who received a parcel of land in exchange military service as an irregular, raiding the raiders instead of the towns, conducting reconnaissance patrols outside of forts and towns, and raiding the raiders and all that stuff. Mother is a tiefling who was taken/liberated as a spoil of war, used to be a concubine (either captured or sold long ago as a child).

>>55248255

Tiefling are useful for military service, thanks to their dark vision alone. Force them into military/mercenary life.

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>>55247946
Someone who was an adventuring companion of that tiefling's parents.

It probably happens a lot, since every other adventuring group has a tiefling.

Pic related also happens, since every adventuring group had a drow in the previous generation.

What's better for archery: Str or Dex? What are the advantage of picking Dex over Str? What are the advantage of picking Str over Dex?

>>55248671
DEX for to-hit, STR for damage with a composite bow for most archers.

Zen Archer Monk gets WIS for to-hit but still needs STR for damage on composite bows. They also get the ability to spend a ki point to increase the bow's damage die to match their unarmed strike and/or increase their range increment.

Only ranged characters I've played were a Pistolero Gunslinger and Zen Archer, though, so the above may not matter. I haven't seen the newest stuff, so there's likely things that have changed that.

>>55229130
i make feminine, slim characters because of my crippling insecurities and desire to be manhandled.

>>55248255
Thank you, that's much more information. If the father's a landowner, he's going to attract people who want land and security, and are willing to either look past or begrudgingly accept a bit of fiendish blood to get it through their children. Or maybe his family's been at their thing on the frontier long enough that some of the raiders are starting to make other plans, and marrying would be a good way to get a foot in the door, fiend-blooded or not. Alternatively, if he's just prominent enough, maybe he and his family have started drawing people out who are less interested in his land than in the bloodline - there's always room in the world for someone plotting something a bit fiendish.

And of course, outside all the pragmatic reasons, it might be someone who's looking for a spouse that has a good background to them. And in this case, a good background means their family earned and hold their home the hard way.

How's the climate? If it gets hot or cold enough, innate resistance might be a nice plus too.

>>55248867
I'll manhandle you regardless anon

>>55248671
RAW, you need both, though less strength thanks to Deadly Aim.

There are no non-class ways to get Dex to damage without 3.5 content. (Dead Eye gives Dex to damage within 30ft.)

Gunslinger gives Dex to damage with guns (or crossbows, with the archetype...) and a few other classes can give Dex to damage.

If you can talk your DM into a Dex to damage feat, then it is your go to stat.

If not, then each point of Str mod is an additional fixed damage, and each point of Dex is an extra 5% hit chance.

>>55229130
Archetypes associated with "That Guy" in pointless defiance, in order to prove that problematic concepts can be played in interesting ways.

YAR ME HEARTIES, STEP ABOARD

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/88349/sluts-and-shackles

>>55249043
I could use a new bamboozle. I'm game.

>>55249043
Must thou titillate the foppish among our brethren?

>>55249043
I'm kind of disappointed that Succula hasn't posted his ptoo yet, even though the post is only 7 minutes old.

>>55248891
>How's the climate? If it gets hot or cold enough, innate resistance might be a nice plus too.

Cold winters and hot summers. Mostly flat grasslands, not a single tree in miles, outside of some long rivers.

>>55249043
>Airgetlam
>Argentum

Almonds status: Activated.

>>55249125
I think energy resistance would probably be nice if the weather swings hot and cold over the year, though that's a fringe benefit on top of everything else. Not enough to be a major factor, but definitely not something to complain about in a spouse.

>>55249043
>vital strike cna be used with strikes

u wot m8

>>55249043
>already deleted
This is like some kind of proto-bamboozle isn't it?

>>55249122
>>55249339
Right before I could app with a grippli warder too...

>>55248814
>>55249034

So, what's better?

>17 Str 14 Dex
>17 Dex 14 Str

Or something of the style.

>>55249496
I remember seeing here before that 18 dex/14 str was the go-to

So what's optimized these days as far as martials go?

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>>55250269
Ordained Defender / Zweihander Sentinel
Brutal Slayer / Bushi
Fighter, using a complicated setup from the Weapon Master's Handbook

What type of combat do you want to focus on?

So, is Zen Archer any good?

>>55244739
My sister got engaged.

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>>55250689
At what altitude?
With how many bogeys?
Is she okay?

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Does anyone have the actual pdf of this? It's a two-page character sheet I found a while back that is like the best homebrew sheet I've ever used.

>>55250919
No.

I don't see a space for conditional skill modifiers. The "Proficiencies" box isn't necessary.

>>55251210
I tended to just write conditionals on the side. I do agree about the proficiencies box though.

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>>55251245
What I could really use is a better way to write statblocks for NPCs I write myself.

When I did it in OpenOffice for my last session, the blocks kept getting split between pages. The flow of combat was lost when I had to switch between the Hawkguard's ranged attack, the maneuvers he had prepared, and the skills section.

>>55250493
Tell me about the complicated set up for fighter.

>>55251613
if i'm right, they must be talking about the Schrodinger's Fighter. in essence, spontaneously selecting temporary feats (which are usually situational) to match your situation. it makes heavy useage of the barroom brawler feat, Weapon spirit into the Training Weapon enchantment, and possibly even a dip into brawler for martial flexibility.

>>55251664
So Martial Master archetype with all the swap feats?

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>>55229130
theres nothing I realized just now, but almost all of my builds are unfailingly transparent to who or what they take inspiration from, and are increadibly complicated or high powered. I usually have a small sesh with a DM when I want to join just to explain what the character does so I dont get halfway into a campaign and have the thing stymied by a ruling

>>55251679
maybe, but generally, people prefer to have the advanced weapon trainings, a lot of which are pretty good.

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What makes a race "good" or "well designed" from a mechanical perspective? What sorts of things appeal to you about a race, lore wise? Appearance? Default Fluff?

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So do Shoanti girls all have womb tattoos?

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>>55251613
I've been awake since noon, so I might have some of this wrong.

One of them is the Myrmidion + Martial Master + Lore Warden, but errata might have made this impossible now.
Another is Mutation Warrior + ??? + VMC Barbarian
I can't find the Schrodinger's Fighter build.

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>>55251963
>A reason to exist
>able to fulfill a specific niche properly without being too restricted
>traits are unique without being sue-ish, meaning a healthy blend of pros and cons
>if there is fluff, it is internally consistant and provides a way that helps your character feel better immersed in the world.

After that, its all about personal preference. Personaly, I prefer races that can somehow walk that thin line between rubber-forhead humans and anthro. That being said, there are few races that I actually like in 1pp PF, and honestly I prefer the Shirren from SF a lot more.

>>55252121
pic related

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It's on, guys.

Current plans are:
Implement the Errata changes; replace Second Aspect with Soulforging Arts and make Second Aspect (and a few other variants) into archetypes; add more normal Forged Souls; retune Bonus Spells and do balance changes.

The playtest document isn't getting shorter any time soon orz

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Has anyone actually played with Pact Magic before? From what I've seen nobody allows it because of Augunas' inability to keep it in his pants, which is a crying shame because the mechanics seem really fun.

>>55249043
>>55249339
Probably deleted for violating Roll20's ToS. You're not suppose to make publicly visible game listings that aren't family friend lynched, and slut is a naughty word right there in the title.

Doesn't mean it wasn't still probably a bamboozle.

>>55252156
>Another is Mutation Warrior + ??? + VMC Barbarian

Mutation Warrior + Eldritch Guardian + VMC Barbarian is the Autism Fighter, isn't it?

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how much do you think zonzon hates it when shelyn calls him zonzon?

>>55252771
He hates it so much he loves it.

So Pathfinder's gotten huge and sprawling and frankly pretty hard to search through at this point. What options are there to boost your ability scores more or less permanently? Leveling gives you +5, Wishes or books give you another +5 Innate, and items give you +6 Enhancement. Mythic can net you another +12, but that's not on the table for most campaigns.

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Hey there, /pfg/

I'm homebrewing up a class based off Ranger, except more variable. I'm calling it the Vagabond, and in a nutshell this is what the class will be able to do:

>Variable favored enemy bonuses that are gained not by selecting your favored types, but by killing your favored types and displaying a trophy of them in your Hideout
>Hideout, a location you can establish after spending a few hours in a location. It's difficult to find, protects against divination magic, and the region around it is always considered a favored terrain.
>Survivalist techniques: feats and other abilities pertaining to survival bonuses or other things that help you endure situations: Such as Endurance, Iron Will(and similar), Toughness an so forth.
>Combat Style: Much like normal ranger's, except specialized bonuses for each style, such as Dex to damage for bows, or faster reloading for firearms, or increased movement speed and natural AC for natural.

I can keep going, but I'd rather just post it when i'm finished.

That being said, is there any improvement you'd like to be made upon the normal Ranger class, or mechanics/flavor things you think would be cool, /pfg/? I'm all up for suggestions, though keep in mind I want to keep this relatively close in power to 1pp content.

>>55253084
After that? Plot magic.

>>55253199
If that's actually all there is, I'm a little bit surprised. With all the other bonus types floating around and the sheer volume of content, I was sure someone would have been dumb enough at some point to provide another stacking +2.

>>55253287
Not really. Pure stat bonuses come in inherent, natural, enhancement and morale forms and only chained barbarian or a skald gets you morale bonuses to stats very much temporarily. There are plenty ways to add bonuses and even dice to pure stat rolls, but those aren't really any use outside of seeing if you can lift a portcullis,

>>55252771
The question is anon, do you think Zonzon keeps all the dolls after every Crystalhue?

Guys, I had never really rolled a caster in an extended campaign before, so I'm trying an Eldritch Archer magus in a buddy's campaign.

Did I fuck up, and if so, how badly?

>>55253916
No, it's pretty good and fun.

>>55253947
That's a relief.
Ranged spellstrike is kinda confusing, though.

>>55254054
What part about it?

Ablative barrier spell stacks with an armor?

If you had to pick a non PoW/non full caster class to be a base class, and then use artifacts to gain gestalt levels with, what classes would be competent at it?

New thread
>>55254233
>>55254233

>>55254196
Egoist Psion/Alchemist

Nat attack monster, all good saves, amazing self buffs

Rolled 5, 4, 5, 1, 6, 2, 5, 6, 4, 5, 4, 3 = 50 (12d6)

this is only a test