Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

Holy Shit, starfinder pdfs are out. Scrub them and post already. Gimme gimme

>>54683729
What the fuck is that pic and why is it in the general op

>>54683783
I don't know how

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>>54683729
Don't listen to that other guy this is the best OP picture yet. Finally some realistic tits.

>>54683842
That Witch has an absurdly large hat!

>>54683859
It's to counterbalance her absurdly large staff!

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>>54683859
Read a book Anon it's called a sombrero

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>>54683729
I eagerly await the latest on Lysander's Lamentations

Can someone post the Pathfinder Origins comic that was teased at in the last thread, and possibly some good depictions of Seoni's ass that verify whether or not she wears anything to cover it?

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Reposting this from last thread, updated.

A slightly lewd CHAbinger based on lust and seduction, and mechanically transformative in how it becomes a debuff aggro/AoO puller.

Maybe it's decent!

>>54683866
But it's so silly! Why does a Witch need such a big hat or huge staff? She's already got enough counterbalance going with her frontloaded figure!

>>54683885
I thought sombreros were supposed to be made out of straw?

Where is DHB? He hasn't made a character since his WotR got shit all over in one of the threads.

>>54683958
The heartbreak... It...

>>54683958
He was gonna make a daddyknight for Intrigue, wasn't he?

>>54683979
He still is, he's just busy.

>>54683976
Apparently the guy works like 60 hour weeks on top of other things.

>>54683995
>60 hours

Jesus Christ, don't they pay you overtime for anything over 40?

>>54683915
I want to snuggle you

>>54684014
You've never had a salary, have you?

>>54684014
He probably makes more than enough money. He works so he has less time to dwell on his pain and suffering, Anon.
It's an escape from the Hell that is his life.

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>>54683995
>>54684014
>yfw DHB works like a Japanese salaryman

>>54684046
that's not feedback

>>54684014
>>54684077
60 hours is basically the baseline for stuff like Wall Street, mind you. It's usually closer to 75.

I am super excited for Starfinder.

I cannot wait to get my hands on the Core Rulebook and Alien Archieve.

>>54684082
I really like Iron Maiden

>>54683841

Then please find out how D: We depend on you!

>>54684112
That's such a small feature in the big scheme of things

>paizuri games general

>>54684312
I'll have to playtest it to get a more detailed impression

>>54684332
Nah, Paizuris are way more balanced.

Anyone planning to take their Pathfinder games to space once they get a hold of Starfinder?

>>54684358

I could never associate anything bad with paizuri. I say they need to come up with a better prejorative word.

>>54684332
Pathfinder is a lot like huge tit paizuri. Fun to think about, but awkward and disappointing when you really try it.

>>54684077
>>54684066
>>54684066
>>54684092
I play a game with him so I have a rough idea what he does. He works at some Silicon Valley tech thing and works till he dies. According to him 'it's been a lot of evenings and weekends for the past few months'.

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What is the best race and why is it catfolk?

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cx6Q2UTfL9yR1Zbh8uy7ZFYzql6ZFDTppZ8AdeeNsbw/edit?usp=sharing

Reposting during prime time. Promise I won't shill it again until I've made significant progress. No, I'm not that guy, I'm the other guy.

Minor Gestalt rules for when you want players to have more options, and be able to round out their weaknesses, but don't want to go full gestalt.

The points are in need of tuning, so please point out any absurdities. Also, any suggestions for new choices are appreciated.

>>54684395
Any tips on PMing him?

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>>54684396
Uhhhh anon, I'm pretty sure Pathfinder catfolk look like this.

>>54683915
First of all, you don't really need to replace every goddamn feature to make an archetype.
Secondly, you're a filthy pervert who represents everything wrong with /pfg/.

Unfulfilled Desires is a straight upgrade to wearing light armor.
Claim of Lust is too powerful, since it compounds the defensive advantage from Unfulfilled Desires and denies enemy options.

Strip Down makes no thematic sense. How does seduction make a fire elemental stop being immune to fire?

Lust's Downfall is outright broken thanks to Claim of Lust. It effectively forces one or more enemies to choose between granting the Harby an additional standard action or taking no attacks.

Overall it's not egregiously terrible, but it's got some issues and is generally too strong.

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>>54684396
>-8 Str
>+2 Dex
>+2 Wis

I hate my GM

>>54684453
>Secondly, you're a filthy pervert who represents everything wrong with /pfg/.

Fuck you, Anon

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>>54684396

Designing most basic consumer products like headphones is really difficult be a niche market to engage in non the less.

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>>54684439
>he thinks the SRD uses copyrighted canon Paizo images

>>54683915
Oh yeah, and you might want to consider the interaction between Natural Charm and Perform (Dance) if you have access to Mithral Current and/or the MC trait from PoW:E.

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>>54684439
Not always

>>54684439
>that shitty pfsrd art
Get that outta here anon.

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>>54684510

So what you're saying is, I could look like ajani while my dad is a more human looking DILF?

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I'm planning on using a Gnome Alchemist n an upcoming session, any tips or info I should know? I plan on leaning towards the bombing aspect of the class, what other weapon should I have when I run out of explodey things to throw?

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>>54684544
>Ajani and Elspeth never fucked

Why do we live only to suffer?

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>>54684539
>>54684510
>>54684477
I'm sorry everybody, I love nekos

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Anons share some close call stories or heroic feats.

>>54684576
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/weapons/weapon-descriptions/pistol-dragon/
Friend of mine that play a bomb alch use this.

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>roll to summon elementals
>roll maximum when I toss out a bunch of medium aether elementals on the field

fear me and my fluffy tails, commoners

>>54684461
We're not allowed to like homebrew here

Anyone here who got their Starfinder PDFs early plan on leaking?

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>>54684660
I'm assuming you don't regularly visit the threads

>>54684618
>4/5 party members on the ground bleeding out
>I, the rogue, was saved for last because boss is immune to sneak attacks anyway
>Fuck it, lets UMD a wand that casts his weak element
>Fail horribly
>Explosion (houseruled random effects) kills me AND the boss
>Cleric didn't bleed out, so everyone else gets to live

It's more heroic in hindsight.

>>54684453
>First of all, you don't really need to replace every goddamn feature to make an archetype.

Plenty of PoW archetypes are heavily transformative. The Knight-Chandler is a good example of this.

>Unfulfilled Desires is a straight upgrade to wearing light armor.

I felt the Courtier needed a defensive boost because its main playstyle encourages coaxing enemies into attacking it to hit them back, and they don't gain particularly many extra defenses against these attacks. Counters compete heavily with swift actions needed to claim.

Claim of Lust specifically doesn't grant a miss chance against the Courtier herself, encouraging enemies to attack her. Forcing the enemy to choose between two unappealing options is one of the tenets of being a tank.

In itself, it's also a choice between affecting one enemy potently and affecting multiple to a lesser extent.

>Strip Down makes no thematic sense. How does seduction make a fire elemental stop being immune to fire?
It's a supernatural ability that plays off the idea that seduction makes someone lower their guard and expose themself 'naked'.

>Lust's Downfall is outright broken thanks to Claim of Lust. It effectively forces one or more enemies to choose between granting the Harby an additional standard action or taking no attacks.

Lust's Downfall is meant to be the main damage dealing method of the archetype, and it only works at its fullest when the Courtier foregoes their normal strike or full attack from their turn. I see this as a playstyle risk: you have less of a chance of using your strikes than a regular harbinger, so your goal is to tempt enemies into attacking you. Claim of Lust and the Seductions are all for facilitating this: they make it much harder for enemies to attack your allies, but for the most part don't hinder them from attacking the Courtier.

Denying enemy options is the core idea of battlefield control.

(Continued)

>>54684660
Leakanon said pics will come sometime tonight or tomorrow

>>54684689

Only once every few days when I remember 4chan exists.

>>54684712
>>54684453

Thank you for looking it over!

In general it's an archetype that nerfs the harbinger's main attacking method and grants various new abilities to make its suboptimal alternate combat style viable. The Courtier is nothing more than a weakened Harbinger or minor debuffer if it can't goad enemies into attacking it in melee.

I'm not discounting your feedback and I do have worries about it getting too much for what it gives up, but I'm just going more in depth about my own viewpoints.

>>54684481
I considered that, but ultimately decided it was too strange to specifically exclude Perform (Dance). The Courtier will still have fewer effective skillpoints in useful skills than an INT-based Harbinger, without the gap being too huge.

>>54684712
You're right, I did misread Claim of Lust.
It's even more sickening than I thought.

Just sit in a safe place (like behind the other tank) with a ranged attack option and you're providing massive miss chance.

>>54684651
pathfinder after level 10 was a mistake

>>54684651
I want to make a fur coat out of you.

>>54684651
>actually using summon spells in combat
>not using ASM+CM
you're a fucking plebian, foxtits
you need to be more hardcore
>captcha: extra soft

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Any of you guys got the full of this?

>>54684759
>In general it's an archetype that nerfs the harbinger's main attacking method and grants various new abilities to make its suboptimal alternate combat style viable. The Courtier is nothing more than a weakened Harbinger or minor debuffer if it can't goad enemies into attacking it in melee.
I may be overvaluing it a bit, but my experience is that straight damage is always worse than it sounds and battlefield control is always better than it sounds. Additionally, the decrease in offensive ability isn't very pronounced if you avoid multi-attack strikes and instead go for the standard++ strikes, which you can conceivably get multiple of per turn.

I personally think it's a slightly risky trade-off, but one that pays off too much for not enough risk.
Really though, playtest data trumps theorycrafting, so get some GM to let you or somebody else run it and see how it fares.

>>54684769
Pathfinder at any level other than 20 with any character wealth besides 880,000.00 gp was a mistake

>>54684788
I'm bored and better out of combat, I just wanna toss minions at things

>>54684763
Claim of Lust specifically says that enemies have to see you. Harbingers, feat-choked as they are, make infamously bad ranged attackers, and because of the mechanical awkwardness that comes with trying to use ranged strikes as AoOs, focusing in on a ranged playstyle means you're likely going to end up ignoring the majority of the archetype's other features to focus on that combat style.

I think if you have two well built PoW tanks in the party something's going very wrong if anyone else takes significant damage in battles regularly

>>54684810
Do you feel it would feel much more in check if I removed the scaling ability to make extra strikes per round from Lust's Downfall, strictly limiting it to a single AoO strike per round?

>>54684937
But on the whole I think it would be reasonable to lower the miss chances on Claim of Lust across the board.

Maybe 5% per level instead of 10%, and with 5% as the new minimum miss chance.

>>54684411
Too lazy to look at EVERYTHING but offhand
>Monk AC could be a cheap thing to add, though admittedly Prescient Dodger would likely be available to almost anyone who actually used this system
>Oracle Curse and Mysteries might be more reasonable?
>Novice Magician feels rather lackluster next to save, HD, and BAB bumps
>A note on Minor Caster about not having the -3 CL might be good due to that penalty being retarded would be nice, as would adding in the Bloodrager list to have an arcane caster.
>the "Free VMC" option is comically overpriced, as it replaces 5 feats over 20 levels when you could just grab one of the talent options or the Fighter feats and take VMC normally and get ~11 feats

>>54684656
It doesn't mean you have to be a rude piece of shit.

>>54684937
In retrospect I'd be less worried about ranged chabies and more worried about enlarge person + polearm chabies, since that's already AOO central.

And yeah, I keep comparing Lust's Downfall to Massacre and thinking it's silly. Massacre is harder to profit from. You have to be next to one foe while dropping another. Lust's Downfall just flat turns AOOs into maneuvers, and it'll trigger a lot more often. I can't help but consider it better in both single combat and in crowd control.

>>54685015
that wasn't me anon, I haven't read your thing.

I just get the same treatment with my homebrew.

>>54684651
I want to pump you full of my demon seed

>>54685059
pm me

>>54685033
It isn't my thing, it just really upsets me when people act like that here.
I'm sorry for calling you a rude piece of shit, homebrewer-san.

>>54685059
PM me!

>>54685059
pm me

>>54685059
M. Grim#4629

>>54685076
>>54685087
Ha! Caught in the act!

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>>54685076
>>54685087
>>54685106

>>54684618
>Game from ~6 years ago.
>Players are WE WUZ fighting against an invading Magocracy.
>Elf Rogue wants to revive Hrevea, the personification of winter storms.
>Makes deal with Magocracy to betray party in exchange for releasing Big Freeze.
>Player leaves game in real life because why not.
>Party gets ambushed while marching to meet up with Catfolk Warlords army.
>Mage Captain tells party entire plan to assassinate Warkitty, as is tradition.
>Traitor fucks off to go kill Meowsama.
>Human Monk chases after him while party and Mage mooks duke it out.
>Catches up to him atop the fall of a frozen lake and cuts off his exit.
>They're both built for archery.
>While Mage's are getting choke slammed a valley back !Black Naruto and !Spock Sasuke duke it out.
>Fight was surprisingly fun.
>Both near dead after 10 or so minutes.
>Eventually Rogue positions himself hear his escape route.
>Monk has a couple arrows tied to lengths of rope.
>Manages to hit twice.
>Drags Rogue back across the ice.
>Rogue is still managing to slip away.
>Monk player:
"I use the slack I have and move to the edge of the frozen fall"
>Me:
"Okay, you've got more than enough. He manages to crawl 5ft away in the meantime."
>Monk player:
"I wrap both ropes around my forearms and jump!"
>Me:
"Of course you do."
>Rolls STR Check for Rogue.
>Rogue bobsleds across the ice and over the fall.
>They both survive crashing through the thin ice below and into the freezing water.
>Rogue panics and tries to find an opening.
>Monk calmly swims towards him and makes a grapple check.
>They sink together to the icy river bed.

Monk player ended rolling a Catfolk Barbarian from Meowsama's warband.

>>54685059
PM me I'll take your demon seed as often as you want~

>>54685076
>>54685106
>>54685110
>>54685142
I AM A SHADOW! THE TRUE SELF!

>>54685002
Hmm, thinking on it more I'm not sure if halving it like that would make the ability worthwhile.

>Up until 7th level, when you can maintain two seductions at once, your hardest control option is to only have one enemy claimed, hitting them with a huge 50% miss chance against your allies.

(Note: I've realized that if total concealment means all your allies can effectively flatfoot that opponent I'm definitely removing the bit about it counting as total concealment)

>50% is a good number because at that point you can be pretty sure you've convinced that single enemy to focus their attacks on you. You can use your one strike on them, you're good.

>If you use your Standard Action to apply Wicked Craving that's another -2 to their attack, for an effective 10% extra multiplicative miss chance for 55%. Not a significantly big change.

>At 7th level you can use two seductions, and it becomes more optimal to have two claimed targets with at most 35% miss chance each. It feels like a good point at where there's a good chance at least one of them will focus on attacking you, but not necessarily both.
>At level 8 they get 40% each, and compounded with Wicked Craving that makes an effective 48% chance on two enemies... maybe that one's a bit high. But forcing two enemies to attack you when you're a d8 class isn't free of downsides.

>>54685153
But I fully accept the part of myself that wants to be bred by demon cock!

>>54685142
>>54685106
>>54685087
>>54685076
Okay, everyone who isn't foxtits needs to pony up a compelling receptacle for this demon seed or they won't see a drop.

>>54685019
That's a fair point. I'll remove the per-encounter ability to make multiple strikes with Lust's Downfall.

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>>54685182

>>54685182
Post Discord! I'll PM you!

post discord

>>54685014
Monk AC sounds like a good idea. I should be inclusive to people who don't know or care about SoP.

Oracle Curse can be gained with the Hedgewitch Tradition, but that is something I can include for the same reasons.

Would full at-will cantrips from one class be enough?

I indeed should include Bloodrager casting, and if I do, remove the -3 caster level.

VMC is just kind of there for people who want it. It is a feat every few levels, which is about the same level as the slower Rogue Talent progression. I would say some of those VMC feat trade offs are much stronger than a single fighter feat.

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>>54685182
you haven't PM'd me, marvelous ms. foxtits, yet, bamboozler

>>54684731

Fuck yeah.

>>54685215
I would argue that 11 fighter feats, 10 Rogue/URogue/Slayer talents, or a Ninja Ki Pool+10 talents which double as Rogue talents is a lot more valuable than saving 5 general feats.

Y'all some thirsty motherfuckers.

>>54685182
spookygorl#0337

>>54685251
Just remember, it's all fine so long as you don't post logs, no matter how much people ask.

>>54685267
t. Rory

>>54685259
Hello, world's most obvious trap. Caught anybody stupid enough to fall for you, yet?

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wtf is happening here

>>54685267
I wouldn't consider two men net fucking each other through fictional characters "fine"

It's legal, it's healthier than some other hobbies, but it's far from "fine"

>>54685182
Xao#6032

>>54685291
Hey, some of us are girls here

>>54685267
No it's not, you're begging to typefuck some dork. Like, okay, I can understand it a little if you two are in the same campaign and your characters are compatible and enjoying each other's company and all, but this is some grade-A F-List Japanese-type bullshit.

>>54685303
Like me.

>>54685303
Yeah but the girls play futadoms.

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>>54685303
>>54685321
>"girls"

>>54685321
Wist/ikid please, aren't you playing PLD right now?

>>54685299
just one off

>>54685323
Not in my experience.
They usually just have every character they control ridicule you for your every action. Expect to read "Pfffft" a lot.

I always look at Paizo games with envy. As much as I hate them, I just want to be friends with all of you.

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>>54685350
Anon, just know that if we ever did play a game, I'd probably be your friend!

>>54685350
Hi anon, I'm anon. How are you?

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>>54685345
Maybe that's a problem with you, because I've never gotten that much ridicule.

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>>54685182
ready to recieve anon!

>>54685350
That's how I feel about my vampire LARP friends.

>>54685275
Not yet but maybe one day!

>>54683662
>>54683917
Kingmaker was usually pretty disliked too, but Blingmaker got lots of apps and participation while it was recruiting. Same for Skulls & Shackles and the LFG up now. Maybe people who actually liked those APs just never spoke up, or maybe there's just something about the way those games' respective DMs presented their games that got people hyped.

>foxtits using Summon Monster forever
She has ten monsters up already fucking christ

Tell me about foxtits, friends.

>>54685481
>>54685489
fear my army of at-will 1d4+1 small elementals, peasants.

>>54685489
She's a meme and a creation of murky origins, as the player is quite obviously a sockpuppet.

Introduce me to foxtits.

>>54685515
captain slow's cockpuppet of course

>>54685534
CAPTAIN STABBIN
...I regretted choosing that name for Skulls and Shackles

>>54685471
The short version is "Tits sell."
RotJR wouldn't have taken off if people weren't sure of the chance to bang Ameiko's hot sister. Blingmaker had people practically typefucking in the thread back when it was just a glimmer in the GM's eye. And Bones and Bed Shackles is just a joke that everyone's laughing along with--nobody expects it to be a real game.

>>54685471
Blingmaker has the excuse of having a new twist and being VERY different from the AP as is. Overall opinions of the AP never shifted.

Jade Regent went from "meh at best" to great in one app period.

>>54685333
I'm the one trying to pump these losers full of demon seed, silly.

>>54685553
Opinions from the players seem to suggest Wubu is an excellent DM, too. So it's got that going for sticking power.

>>54685399
Isn't it a little silly filling a demon with demon seed? It becomes vanilla sex if they're both demons.

>>54685596
Oh, haven't you heard? Apparently all tieflings are futas. I mean, the thread said it, so it must be true. It couldn't possibly be some namefag spreading a shitty meme around to feel special, could it?

>>54685489
She's a big girl

>>54685551
>RotJR wouldn't have taken off if people weren't sure of the chance to bang Ameiko's hot sister.
Onryou or Shizuka?

>>54685623
Onryou, the Golden Girl that started it all.

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>>54685182
>in the forests and fields.

>>54685618
Show me a picture of foxtits.

>>54685632
>You will never lounge in a Nirmathan meadow with your significant other

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>>54685182
Pick me!

>>54685611
I don't really like futas at all, to be honest. It just isn't appealing except on a monster or antagonist or something, but not as a source of titillation.

>>54685623
Yes.
Well, mostly Onryou. Half the male apps were an arms race of who could have the biggest cock, and create a build mechanically suited to raping her.
>IDrive made a big bara tiefling with a bulldick and a futa centaur
>Some guy Lizardman legbreaker who was supposed to have a huge dong
>Another asshole made a fucking scaly whose entire character was IMMA KNOCK YO GURL UP HOMEBOY MUH DIK MUHFUGGA

>>54685660
Her application in Carnal Crown never struck me as the type who was into that sort of thing!

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>>54685182
>in the bottom of a winecup.

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>>54685551
>>54685471
>app to a game as a shitpost
>I actually get in
>mfw

>>54685399
My starship crew needs a shut-in hacker. She will do just fine.

>>54685679
>Some guy Lizardman legbreaker who was supposed to have a huge dong
>Another asshole made a fucking scaly whose entire character was IMMA KNOCK YO GURL UP HOMEBOY MUH DIK MUHFUGGA
I thought these were the same app.

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>>54685596
This better?

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>>54685182
>in the shallows of the cove.

>>54685708
Nah, there were two. One was actually a character, and the other was a glorified F-List profile.

>>54685704
Yes, yes, we're all very happy for you Disk. Now go back to being a salty asshole.

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>Gonzo First Responder archetype doesn't have a mailman option
Guess I better refluff the Phantom Thief.

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>>54683729
Dude I love big tittied anime girls as much as the next guy but can you guys find some actual fantasy art for the OP, because I'm starting to understand why people shit talk this game so much here

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>>54685182
PM me!

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>>54685635
sure

>>54685813
Why is she called foxtits? The greatest enigma thus far.

>>54685829
because she's a kitsune

a kitsune that was adopted by a bunch of amanandar folks and raised like a PROPER TALDAN LADY

>>54685776
Just ignore the trolls. Or report them and hope the mods delete their images and ban them like they used to.

>>54685209
>tsundere Juggy
Have the Thorns gone to far!?

Is anyone working on posting the pdfs?

>when an archer capable of dropping party members in a single hit against 40+ AC decides he wants to be inside Reimu so he fucks off

>>54685888
Too busy choosing between all these thirsty sluts, desu

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>>54685743
Tell me more about your mailman. The determined letter carrier who will not be denied come rain, sleet, snow, or ancient lich is a sorely underutilized character archetype. Has anyone else ever seen someone play a mailman?

>>54685888
What happened to Leakanon

>>54685708
There were two: gerbek was a crocperson who was "HURR HURR HEMIPENIS FOR ONRYOU", skarp was a snekperson who was only tangentially related to the suggestion of snekdicked mesmerist for onryou, but actually had a backstory and character.

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>>54685923
I know I did! Especially because there was a 3.5 sorcerer build called "The Mailman".

>>54685888
Calm down and give it time. Leakanon said in an earlier thread that something would happen tonight or tomorrow.

Seriously, we've waited almost a year for it to come out. Waiting one more evening shouldn't kill you. Sit back and relax while you wait.

>>54685888
>>54685927
He said, tonight or TOMORROW

>>54685910
>going after the shitty touhou and not the sexy fox

for shame

>>54685923
I'm playing a mailman right now!
In a Mutants and Masterminds game.

>>54685923
I played a "mailman" once, really just a ranger who delivered packages to remote/dangerous locations.

>>54685964
>>54685970
Dope!

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>>54685971
Reimu is the best.

>>54685910
Shrine Maiden must be a Martyr for the cause.

>>54686021
Kawase, all your characters are literally just touhous

this thread has been exceptionally shitty

>>54686028
I only made one touhou and it was originally meant as a joke tbqh.

>>54686074
you're still a joke

>>54686068
It has.

>>54686080
>>54686068
I liked the mailman discussion.

>>54686278
I liked the imagedump of hot girls.

>>54686316
I like playing video games and watching anime.

I Liked the discussion of the homebrew charbinger

I liked the lack of major witch hunting!

>>54686339
I miss video games.

>>54686394
I miss my mom.

Good job you guys really turned the thread around

Wish requires the diamond to be consumed right?

>>54686471
YES

>>54686471
It's a material component and not a focus, so yes
Basically it costs 10k gp to cast.

>>54686471
Consumed as in used up? Yes.

>>54686394
Why don't you play some? There's never been a better time than now.

>>54686471
Yes. Otherwise learning Wish would mean you could give everyone +1 to any stat for free.

That's why Blood Money is terribly designed and broken.

>>54686361
https://pastebin.com/zUGVAmbf

>>54686416
I miss not being bored and disappointed with life and the universe.

The choice between ~80 years of ultimately inconsequential existence and simply not being has got to be the most disgusting joke ever played.

Intelligence, emotion, and self-awareness are a curse.

>>54686416
dads are like boomerangs

i hope

How painful would it be to make a STR magus?

>>54686471
Unless it's a focus item, then yes.

>>54686478
25k maybe 10k is minor wish or something

>>54686483
witch hunter please

>>54686490
pretty painful. Or, in more simple terms, impossible, because it's incompatible with the class' features

>>54686416
I miss video games. I mi-mi-miss my mom.
https://youtu.be/imGYNg77WlE?t=126

>>54686482
Casting wish via blood money would take like 49~ strength tho

>>54686490
Not that painful once you get past the early levels. Rough but not impossible during the early levels. A scroll or two of Mage Armor will go a long way.

>>54686485
Your entitlement to an existence of spiritual meaning is the real joke. All that is cannot be terrible. It is the standard against which everything is weighed, so it can objectively never be inherently a blessing nor a curse.

>>54686471
Yes. But, it doesn't have a size, just a price. So once in a game my party bought a diamond mine that only pumped out 100gp diamonds, then inflated diamond prices worldwide to make them worth 10k.

Why is the Tarrasque a good leaper. It gets a couple buffs to its ability to jump but I don't know why. Is it a carry over from a D&D incarnation of the beast?

Post your character's theme song /pfg/

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>>54686560
Because he's french.

>>54686560
It's simply to fuck over Flying Fireball.

>>54686560
To "counter" some tactics that made it an absolute joke in 3(.5) like dumping it in a pit and shooting it a lot.
I mean, it's still a joke, it's just a joke with fewer answers.

>>54686594
>Fireball
Er archery, sorry.

>>54686542
>entitlement
Never said I wanted spiritual meaning you goof.

I don't give a shit if everything is terrible or not.

But it is meaningless in every sense of the word.

Also your logic is flawed. By your reasoning a universe of eternal isolation and pain is fine simply because it's all that the individual would know.

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SOON.

>>54686632
I am losing my goddamn mind.

>>54686632
be still, my beating heart.

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>>54686605
>By your reasoning a universe of eternal isolation and pain is fine simply because it's all that the individual would know.
It's neither fine nor not fine, is what he's saying. It simply is, in much the way gravity simply is, whether it's helping you generate power or it's dragging you to your death after you leaned on a rusty handrail.

>never said I wanted spiritual meaning
"Meaningless in every sense of the word" refers to spiritual meaning and nothing else because it doesn't make sense applied to anything else. What do you want the universe to mean? You're the one supposed to make sense of it and find your own goals. Don't blame the World for not providing guiding you along.

>>54686632
AAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S HERE

>>54686632

Tonight?

>>54686632
Why is Space Ameiko so ugly reeee
>printed in China
Every time lol

>>54686645
>"Meaningless in every sense of the word" refers to spiritual meaning and nothing else because it doesn't make sense applied to anything else.
I'd rather not play chess with a pigeon. Have a good night.

>>54686596
>>54686560
Listen here you little shit the Tarrasque is only a 'joke' if its ran poorly, the Tarrasque isn't a normal fight, its a race against time to stop it before it reaches a city and fucking obliterates it.

>>54686645
>TFW you cannot unsee the cum dripping from the corner of her mouth

>>54686632

Can't come soon enough!

>>54686632
Tonight?

>>54686667
>I'd rather not play chess with a pigeon
Because you have decided it's meaningless, just like you have decided playing chess with a human is meaningful. What does the World care of your pitiful chess game?

>>54686675
3.5e Tarrasque died to fucking level 3s and 4s.

>>54686659
>>54686690
Still working on removing my identifying info, so most likely tomorrow.

Also, there's 500+ pages, so probably tomorrow, and every day for a while.

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>>54686667
>pigeon
>singular noun
There's two people you're arguing with, but okay. I guess we're just both so much less enlightened than thou.

>>54686696
3.5 was a clusterfuck of shit and you know it.

>>54686696
>using 3.5 as an argument

>>54686717
I guess asking for a full PDF is going to take some time. As would asking for a download link for all the images you plan to post, once you get going

>>54686717
Any chance we can get something as a teaser? Like the races for example.

>>54686717
>>54686750
Could we get the character sheet tonight?

>>54686723
>>54686729
I fail to see your point considering the only way Pathfinder made it not a joke is "you can't kill it ever lol". You can still do shit like Raise Dead it into a Zombie, I'm pretty sure, which destroys all its immunities as a Zombie version of a creature loses all its special abilities.
Plus OP said it's a joke in 3.5e; in PF, it's a joke with fewer answers, but still fairly easy to disable forever (just knock it out and shove it into the plane of water).

>>54686723
Anon says, in a Pathfinder thread, where, only a few hours before, grown men salivated at the thought of being digital sluts.

>>54686696
What's the level 3 build that kills 3.5 Tarrasque?

Disclaimer that I'm too lazy to explain why Pun-Pun doesn't work.

>>54686772
Command Undead is a 2nd level spell in 3.5e, go take your pick of the Undead that do stat damage.

>>54686750
>>54686762
How about we let Leakanon work, not trouble them with requests and just patiently wait for the whole thing tomorrow?

>>54686696
I'm calling bullshit, 3.5 Tarrasque would obliterate level 3s and 4s

>>54686763
>You can Raise Dead it and then it loses its immunities

Firstly? Raise Dead? That the one you meant?

Secondly, if it's dead then it's already DEAD. It doesn't need to be deprived of its immunities because it's DEAD.

>>54686744
>full PDF
Doubtful. I'm not sure what the exact hidden info is in the PDF, and I don't want to get my ass shut down.
>download link
I'll see what I can do.

>>54686750
>>54686762
Character sheet is easy enough, I'll see if I can get the races done too.

>>54686632
So- if I were to start recruiting for a short 2-4 tryout game now, what sort of adventure would it/should it be? I could space-ify a starting PF adventure I wrote, but that seems clumsy.

Given what we know of the book currently, what's a rough adventure idea I could start recruiting for now, and fill in the mechanics and such after the book is leaked, and start running a few days after that?

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>>54686632
>best girl on the cover
All is right in the world

>>54685923
I'm thinking of running him with the Bagman archetype (http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/bagman), focused on 'delivering' what amounts to hatemail against those who would besmirch his profession n combat. All I need is a consistent way for him to slap conditions on himself.

>>54686870
2-4 session*

>>54686870
What kind of story do you want to tell mateosaur?

>>54686870
Just be patient anon, don't bother prepping for a game before you've seen the book. Other people will need to take the time to wait and read it anyway before they can make a character, so you might as well too.

>>54686909
It's a short tryout to get to know the system, I'm not especially fussed. I care more about the story/adventure being well suited to show off the rules.

jttw greentext?

>>54686825
>Regeneration (Ex) No form of attack can suppress the tarrasque's regeneration—it regenerates even if disintegrated or slain by a death effect. If the tarrasque fails a save against an effect that would kill it instantly, it rises from death 3 rounds later with 1 hit point if no further damage is inflicted upon its remains. It can be banished or otherwise transported as a means to save a region, but the method to truly kill it has yet to be discovered.
Imbecile. The point is that while it's dead (which it IS dead), before it comes back to life using its three-round revive ability, you raise it.

>>54686805
You just need to Command Undead on, say, http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/shadow.htm or http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/allip.htm, and now it's either KO'd for the forseeable future (bury it alive or drag it into a lake using Unseen Servant or your fighter so it can't breathe) or at 0 Strength, which, depending on which specific effect you think of, either makes the Tarraresque dead or leaves it at 0 Strength for you to fuck with as you please. Bury it alive again if you want.

I hope TotJR has fun tonight!

>>54686876
Wait a minute, isn't the robot a lady-neuter? Does that mean there are literally no men on the cover? Just women and rats?

That's pretty hilarious.

>>54686958
Okay, so you've got a zombie tarrasque.

Then its three rounds are up, and it revives again anyway.

Being a zombie doesn't stop that.

>>54686870
I'm planning on running an escape mission from a low/mid tier space criminal outpost to start off. Have PCs come with a reason why they are at odds with criminal faction, orchestrate an escape, steal a starship, and have a ship battle while preparing to jump to safety.

Seems like a chance to familiarize players with mechanics and setting them up as a crew while also giving me a chance to get used to running starfinder and simultaneously giving some good chances to introduce some early npcs/factions/plotlines

>>54686995
You know...
You're not wrong.

>>54686958
>i just have to find a shadow or an allip, and control it.

Ok, now tell me how you do it outside of a white room scenario.

>>54686995
>>54686995
As expected of SJWfinder.

>>54686977
Week 3 of the crystalhue orgy is still going strong.

>>54685215
Alchemist Discoveries might be an idea, though I dunno what you'd price them at

>>54687014
I like how Amalthea has taken her role as Team Mom very seriously!

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>>54686490
I did fine. Better than dex, certainly.

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>>54686995
>>54687012
WHO CARES

>>54687047
How so?

>>54687036
I'm not sure if the unbirthing scenes made me more nauseous or horny.

>>54686999
>Being a zombie doesn't stop that.
It does though. Animate Dead applies either the Skeleton or Zombie template to the creature.

>Special Qualities: A zombie loses most special qualities of the base creature. It retains any extraordinary special qualities that improve its melee or ranged attacks.
The quality in question here is -

>Regeneration (Ex) No form of attack can suppress the tarrasque's regeneration—it regenerates even if disintegrated or slain by a death effect. If the tarrasque fails a save against an effect that would kill it instantly, it rises from death 3 rounds later with 1 hit point if no further damage is inflicted upon its remains. It can be banished or otherwise transported as a means to save a region, but the method to truly kill it has yet to be discovered.
This doesn't improve melee or ranged attacks, so it disappears. Your tarraresque stays dead. A Tarraresque has 30 HD, so you need to be Level 15 to do this to it.

>>54687010
Okay, that I will accept might not happen if you're not dealing with Undead enemies. Then you wait for level 7 and cast Summon Undead IV, which can create, among other things, Allips.

>>54687049
I'm just a little disappointed. I was hoping for some space hunks, Anon. Maybe there will be some ripe fellas on the inside.

>>54686942
It was just fighting skeletons and an archer with teleporting arrows or something.

>>54687118
You're supposed to make the space hunk, anon! If you want a genre of artwork that's dominated by white hunks and busty white dames, than that's sci-fi!

>>54687118
If there are no boys in space how am I supposed to get pregnant with alien babies!?

>>54687127
fear my army of small aether elementals, peasants

>>54687062
Not him but more damage more feat flexibility

>>54686942
Skeletons obliterated.

Archer of one-hit=near killed, who purposefully didn't try and kill the players because he hates the guys he's working for.

Foxtits summon an army

Bureaucrat fricken slaughters half an army of skeletons and scares the piss out of archer guy and gets KO in two hit.

Swordgirl with a girlcrush on an ambassador slaughters the other half of the army

Reimu summons weather

Quiet and polite noble girl shocks the fuck out of everyone by being loud..

>>54687161
>near killed
We didn't even damage him.

>>54686929
How about a simple heist? Get item from point a to point b, throw weird things at is

>>54687089
Yeah, but objects (Which corpses are) don't have special abilities like that either.

>>54687062
Chicks dig you when you're strong, Anon.

>>54687157
I suppose that's an option. Any particular examples you can give?
>>54687173
I think that's a given, dude.

>>54687062
Not spending 4 feats to get dex to damage means you can use those feats for metamagic, extra arcana, and a bastard sword for 1-hand or 2-hand work.

>>54686977
What is that?

>>54687171
Becoming dead doesn't explicitly remove your qualities though, in fact you've got stuff like http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/vermin/beetle/beetle-fire/ whose Extraordinary Abilities specifically work after they die for a set length of time. Becoming a Zombie [explicitly] removes all your [Su.] and [Sp.] qualities, and removes [Ex.] qualities except the ones that directly improve your melee or ranged attacks.

>>54687141
But...But I want to make characters to get ravished by space hunks, Anon. This isn't going to work out...

>>54687189
That sounds fine and dandy, yet light armor seems to be an issue at lower levels.

>>54687089
Regeneration (Ex)

A creature with this ability is difficult to kill. Creatures with regeneration heal damage at a fixed rate, as with fast healing,
>but they cannot die as long as their regeneration is still functioning (although creatures with regeneration still fall unconscious when their hit points are below 0)
Certain attack forms, typically fire and acid, cause a creature’s regeneration to stop functioning on the round following the attack. During this round, the creature does not heal any damage and can die normally. The creature’s descriptive text describes the types of damage that cause the regeneration to cease functioning.).

Doesn't work. Even if it is 'dead' the regeneration still functions and it is still technically alive.

>>54687089
Ok, the tarrasque obliterates the allips in one turn because its the tarrasque and its weapons are epic.

Also notably, Shadows can't hurt the Tarrasque, its immune to ability damage, but not ability drain, which allips have.

So you're relying on allips to do your work for you, and sure, its possible they can, but its also possible that the Tarrasque obliterates them before they can do their job.

Also keep in mind you have to be close enough to get your allips to the Tarrasque, but not too close that it rushes you and obliterates you.

>>54687218
Shield Spell boosts the armor issue, as does haste and extreme flexibility because dodge bonuses stack..

>>54687217
That's what the DM and other players are for, anon! You want to get used and abused to get a million views? Than PM a partner and get to setting the scene!

>>54687241
Ability drain is permanent damage, which the PF tarrasque IS immune to.

>>54687200
I'd hazard a guess it's either the real play-by-post RotJR, or just a fake RotJR made of memes.

Looking at the Strange Magic Truenamer and
>In order for his recitation to be successful, he must succeed on a DC 7 + 3 x the recitation's recitation level truenaming check. (See Table: Truenaming DCs by Recitation Level) To make a truenaming check, roll 1d20 + the truenamer's class level + the truenamer's Intelligence modifier.
I assume I'm reading this wrong, and a level one Truenamer doesn't make a DC37 check just to use their basic class feature?

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>>54687141

I don't know about busty...

>>54687225
>Even if it is 'dead' the regeneration still functions and it is still technically alive
You could make the argument that something Undead isn't actually Dead, but it no longer has that ability at all. You're not stopping the ability via an attack, after all, you're just striking it from the sheet.

>>54687241
>obliterates the allips
Allips are incorp, and therefore immune to nonmagical attacks. Tar's weapons are Epic but not Magical. The Tar cannot hit Allips, or Wraiths / Ghosts for that matter. I forgot about it being immune to ability drain.

>>54687294
That sounds about right for a 3.5 Truenamer.

>>54687254
I don't want to get used and abused...
I just want to find love in the arms of strapping, heroic space adventurer amongst the stars

>>54687306
Anime was a mistake.

holy fuck legendary gunslinger is so cool

>>54687329
>that
>anime

>>54687313
>immune to ability drain
*err damage

>>54687322
I want to be used and abused!

>>54687322
>I just want to find love in the arms of strapping, heroic space adventurer amongst the stars

You can find that too, anon! Imagine keeping a vlog about your day-to-day and pouring your heart out in a digital diary about how that Soldier-man in your party makes your heart go wild every time he looks your way!

And then you accidentally send one of your recordings to him.

>>54686471
For the sake of pointing out things no dm will let you do, you could put two levels in occultist, take the illusion (crystal is an implement, diamonds are crystals) and conjuration schools, take the conjure implement ability and summon a diamond, reasonable gm response if to say you summon one worth too little, but they might allow you to get away with it for cheaper spells. Or a thock rifle (weapon is a transmutation implement) or something to sell, as you have more than enough time to sell and leave before it despawns, and use the money to buy a real diamond before being run out of town.
You can expend 1 point of mental focus to conjure any item that qualifies as an implement that you know how to use. This implement can be used as the item in question, functioning as a masterwork version of that item

Plenty of ways to pull of stupid like this though, and no sane gm would allow them. This ability has little use outside of early level guns or heavy armor, especially since if you lose your implements you cannot cast this to create a new one.

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>>54687375

>>54687398
I prefer just using the old Wall of Iron - Fabricate trick, adjusted for PF's retarded patch job.

>>54687375

>Soldier-man acts like he never received the recording
>Next evening, you notice a new subscriber to your blog

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It's late. I'm tired and hungry. But I can share a few things I guess.

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>>54687682
For the anons who wanted it.

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>>54687712
And for the anons who didn't know they wanted it.

>>54687712

Oh yeah, that's the stuff.

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>>54687142

I have come on behalf of humanity to give you my seed. Bend over or offer your oriface for penetration.

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>>54687728
Just the ship sheet

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>>54687728
>>54687712
Could you post the Soldier and the Marksman archetype, buddy? Please?

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>>54687745
And a little something something.

>>54687728
>port and starboard
>no ventral and dorsal
SPACE IS NOT 2D

>>54687682
>>54687712
>>54687728
>>54687761
Glorious. Thanks, Leakanon!

>>54687752
Fuck that! Show us the Azlanti Star Empire!

WHAT ARE THEY?

>>54687763

Tables are, though.

>>54687763
In Starfinder, the enemy's gate is NOT down, anon.

>>54687682
>>54687712
>>54687728
>>54687745
>>54687761

Thank you very much, anon. Good night, and pleasant dreams.

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>>54687739
PM me!

>>54687761
Where's my biotech!

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>>54687761
>>54687745
>>54687728
>>54687712
>>54687682

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>>54687752
I'm going to save the classes for tomorrow when I'm feeling more up to making the pages, but there's no Marksman. The closest is the Sharpshoot fighting style.

>>54687791
That I can do, as long as you don't expect me to post the rest of the setting right now.

>>54687862
If it's not too much to ask can you post the stuff in Faith and Religion about the Black Hole cult?

>>54687529
Your DM must be drunk

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>>54687831

How?

>>54687862
>Arquand
Is it Alpha Centauri time?

>>54687862
>Arquand can make anime real

>>54687882
No DM actually allows infinite money exploits.
It's still fun to point out how godawful Paizo's quality control is that you can reinstate the exact same bullshit by just moving on one spell further in the CRB.

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>>54687862
>I'm going to save the classes for tomorrow when I'm feeling more up to making the pages, but there's no Marksman. The closest is the Sharpshoot fighting style.

That's fine by me! You did more than enough for the likes of us, Leakanon. Thank you!

>>54687831
[Theme of PM THEM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0pM5dm--yQ

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>>54687891
You will find my discord in your sweetest of alien breeding dreams...Or because I posted it above in the thread already!

>>54687913
>I prefer just using the old Wall of Iron - Fabricate trick
>I prefer just using
>using

>>54687918
The TRUE theme:
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j7oQEPfe-O8

>>54687964
Reread the post I was replying to.
We were clearly operating in a magical christmas wonderland where the GM never said "No, RAW is retarded, you can't do that even if it says you can".

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>>54687924

Then I shall explore the caverns until I find the breeding chambers!

Or the link gets posted again

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>>54687991
But anon. The breeding chambers are right here!

>>54687975
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDWbew8PCHg

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>>54687991
Come find me! I wait excitedly!

>>54688030
>ordinary magician

Just going to add one last thing before I turn in tonight: at first glance this feels a little bit like Unchained. It has systems that seem like the optional rules that were included in Unchained, and everything's been slimmed down a bit for rules and skills.

>>54683943
You're thinking of strawmen.