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>>54644016
I am slime.
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>>54644080
I am Skeleton Jelly.
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>>54644080
We all slime
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>>54644093
SKELETON JELLY?
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU!
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Hey guys, what about a cyoa that we all work on? Like we all throw choices and the like at wild and reckless abandon, and then they all get sorted into order and "Balanced". Completely arbitrary number to limit choices based on how many their are total.
I'd assume text based since picture hunting for that would be fucking impossible.
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Which Dead Author do you miss the most?

I miss Beri sometimes, even if his fans were awful.
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>>54644503
Half of it will be little girl options.
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>>54644016
Waifu OC?!!
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>>54644503
This would be the single stupidest fucking thing these threads would have ever produced.
Let's fucking do it.
>I'd assume text based
>picture hunting for that would be fucking impossible
Don't you dare underestimate my abilities, Anon.
I can find a picture of almost anything.
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>>54644548
Just a little longer...
It's coming.
Should be done within the hour.
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>>54644528
Beri seemed like a really genuine person. There was legitimate criticism to be had of his writing, but I think people went overboard sometimes as a reaction to his fanbase. It's not like a fanbase is something you can control, so it wasn't his fault.
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>>54644563
Yeeeeeeees!!!!
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In the eyes of alien species, what would humans possess that make us cool? Some aliens have extra limbs, that's useful. Some can fly, unique cool and useful. What sets humans apart? Height?
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>>54644604
What sets humans apart?
Dicks
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>>54644604
You should probably skim some early archived HFY threads, before they got awful.
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>>54644604
Read this: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Humanity_Fuck_Yeah

In short, we're a lot hardier than almost all life on earth. Beware, there's more bullshit in these threads than not, but some things have merit.
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>>54644551
find me one sane man that would want to put that all together.
Text is easy.
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>>54644629
>Alien dolphins
We're fucked.
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>>54644655
Neat.
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>>54644604
5 fingers on both hands
hundreds of complicated languages we can learn in months
feminine penises
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>>54644650
Humans fuck yeah. Is that a system?
>>54644655
Thanks.
>>54644688
Wouldn't most advanced aliens have evolved five fingers?
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>>54644650
>>54644655
I loved the stories about the aliens being the greatest cooks in existence. That was a fun and fresh take on the genre.
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>>54644664
Fuck I can't find a sane guy in /cyoag/ ...
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What kind of waifu would you like to see more of in the future?

Personally, tall tomboys.
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>>54644756
I want to see waifus who spend less time talking about how much they love me, like I was a Persona MC. I already know that I'm awful so the waifus liking me breaks immersion.
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>>54644756
Galkos. Copy the girl from "My first girlfriend is a gal"
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>>54644756
There can never be enough tomboy choices
though I would prefer if they weren't into pegging
I want to have a pure, loving relationship with them.
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>>54644756
Adoring pets. For loving , like any other pet, and not abuse.
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>>54644528
Man, even months later you're still mad people didn't agree with you.
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>>54644815
King taste.
>>54644825
Tell us more?
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>>54644664
I'll do it.
If someone else handles the text, I can do the images.
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>>54644756
Stoic Dandere girls and A.I. waifus.
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>>54644505
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/MacedonianGreekConflict/conflict.html
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>>54644825
What am I mad about?
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>>54644604
Humans are considered adorable and child-like by aliens, making them prone to trusting and protecting us.

The only downside is that it means there's a strong black market slave trade for humans.
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>>54644854
>AI waifus
Did you like the Rook? I hoped you'd enjoy her, since I liked the failed author CYOA so much.
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>>54644905
But if I'm making an alien waifu, presumably your waifu would see you as an equal, not as a child.
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>>54644832
Some dude went on a big rant about how he didn't like Beri's characters and a couple people argued with him, saying they liked the characters. The dude flipped his shit and ranted for a thread and a half, getting increasing frustrated, angry, and hateful the more people disagreed with him. That's where this whole 'Beri's fans suck!' idea first came up, so I consider it likely that anyone bringing that up out of nowhere or generally harping on it is probably that guy.
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>>54644907
> I liked the failed author CYOA
What the hell did I miss this week
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>>54644946
I was there and I don't like beri's writing but I wasn't the only one. When I left and came back the shitposting was still going on.

You seem a little obsessed there buddy, let's just drop it since it really doesn't matter at this point anymore.
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>>54644928
As a /ss/ child
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>>54644928
Not the other guy, but I just had an idea: Pedophiles of other alien races find adult humans attractive, and are encouraged to pursue this kind of xenophilia as a way to keep them on the straight-and-narrow.
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>>54644928
Well some people like getting doted on (look at how popular /ss/ is.) Anyway, I'm just describing to you a possible general attitude, it doesn't necessarily have to be how everyone feels. Some people hate puppies after all.
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>>54644986
You're gross.
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>>54644952
>>54644995
Not this week.
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>>54644756
Cow tits with an intelligent, sarcastic personality. The mother thing gets old.
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>>54644980
That's not true alien love though, just fetish shit.
>>54644994
It's a good fetish to be sure, but I'm not going to write fetishes all the same. Thanks for the idea though.
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>>54644972
Ah, there we go, my suspicions are proven correct. I like when that happens.
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>>54644986
Holy shit that's awful
Like, wow. That's impressively bad. You really outdid yourself anon. Remember to give us guns so I can wipe clean this planet
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>>54644708
Not necessarily. Tentacles &c.
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>>54644880
Are you retarded? It's probably impossible to pick a more biased '''source'''. Ancient Macedonia has fuck all to do with fyrom. Insinuating Alexander isn't Greek (under modern definition) is insane revisionist propaganda.
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>>54644780
There's nothing more obnoxious to me than the whole shtick of "the waifu is writing a letter describing herself, which gives you information about her and also highlights her forced stereotype personality ".

If you don't know how to write characters, than don't do this!!! If you're just going to make the waifu an archetype, you may as well not spend any time coming up with character specifics. Craft some believable and interesting characters, like that Cowboy CYOA, or the Horseman Kingdom one.
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>>54645013
>>54645029
Never said it was a good idea.
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>>54644907
I choose Rook yep, A.I. Waifus deserve love too.

I'm glad you liked it, I think, hopefully you never made a build for it haha.
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>>54644907
rook was depressing :(
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>>54644946
That's a shame. Beri's characters do suck. I guess that well's been poisoned though...
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>>54645063
Cowboy was absolute shit, stop advertising and posting your verbal diarrhea.
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>>54644907
she was my waifu
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>>54645015
>>54644995
I saw that one already. I've never been more disgusted by a mystery box, begging us to make content for him.
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>>54645085
Sneak.
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>>54645063
Three exclamation marks are the sure sign of an insane mind.
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>>54645101
Cowboy is one of the best CYOAs made for these threads. It's able to inspire a mental adventure better than 90% of the shit people pump out, and it's all about writing and originality.
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>>54645063
>taking anyone seriously when they use three fucking exclamation marks
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>>54644928
Oh, if we're talking waifus, I think humans being determined would be the best fit. Even if we're weak, not that smart or educated (at least on the whole) and regularly fuck each other over (and ourselves), we're pretty damn tenacious.
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>>54645063
>If you don't know how to write characters, than don't do this!!!
Very good merit in this post, anon.
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>>54645056
Alexander was definitely not a modern Greek. You are thinking of whether or not Alexander was an ancient Hellenic.
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>>54645136
>>54645147
It means I have passion
>>54645162
I don't want to hear your schlock, you do the exactly thing I'm talking about with your CYOAs. You're a nice person and I don't want you to feel bad though.
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>>54645179
I was saying Greek under the modern definition, not modern Greek.
Also, Hellenic means Greek, ya doofus.
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>>54645181
>SDA
>nice person
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>>54645157
But then, who would want a pathetic weak willed alien waifu?
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>>54645162
He has a point though resident shitposter. There are lots of people in this world and lots of ways of writing a realistic character, but everyone shares one characteristic and that's being self-interested.

People introduce the best parts of themselves and try to cast a shade over their faults and errors. If somebody said "I love and want to suck your cock" on the first meeting I'd start looking for the hidden camera, but in CYOAs that sort of writing is almost standard.

The worst I can think of is the fairy CYOA where you had girls saying they're super duper honest and hardworking, but it's far from being the only one to commit the ultimate sin of bad character writing.
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>>54645075
I was also the anon asking you (I think) for design advice since I genuinely do want to improve. Hopefully the layout wasn't too much of an eyesore.
>>54645082
Please imagine a happy ending for all of them.
>>54645107
Cute!
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>>54645212
He's always been nice to me and has given me advice to make my cyoas better.
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>>54645181
>It means I have passion
>You're a nice person
Literally what the fuck am I reading?
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>>54645181
>It means I have passion
It means you're a fucking moron who managed to fail high school.
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>>54645063
I agree (though your presentation is somewhat lacking.)
It's pretty insane that bullet point style waifus often have more information than 300 word waifu descriptions.
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>>54645107
Did she die?
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>>54644503
I'm game, what's the central theme going to be? Should we just mash a bunch of worlds together?
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>>54645239
>>54645063
Go hog wild mah niggas. Write the shit you want., If it's good shit people do it too. Git out there and conquer the threads!
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>>54645221
>He
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>>54644756
A lonely, chubby girl who eats to ease her pain. When you get together she makes it her mission to lose weight, and this will go a lot better if you help her out. When she reaches a normal weight and becomes more confident she starts acting and dressing in a more feminine manner. She becomes extremely happy because you gave her a chance and helped her, and she almost becomes addicted to pleasing you. Though she is more confident with her body she still retains some shyness and insecurity during naked, sexy times.
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>>54645214
>stronk waifu that got traumatized by [tragic event in her past], needs your help to keep going
that's my fetish
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>>54645239
I have never been good at words, but it frustrates me as to why people would do this. A waste of time, and for boring bad characters too!
>>54645266
This is what I do! First CYOA out, and expansion for it soon, and second CYOA is going to be a big one, pastebin being written now. It will be good.
>>54645231
Nothing I said does not make sense.
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>>54645231
Don't pick on her, meanie.
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>>54645282
... are you fatposter trying to self-insert?
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>>54645210
>Hellenic means Greek
lol no

The modern definition of Greek deals with modern Greece. I won't bother responding to you anymore.
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>>54645239
You do understand what bullet points are for, right?
They're for telling the essentials in as few words as possible. The writing is as direct as possible. There's nothing to wonder about.
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>>54645215
>take power tier 2 and love tier 3
>strip down your soulmate and writer "omnipotent" on her buttcheek with sharpie
>profit forever and ever
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>>54645308
I am not.
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>>54645227
With that Forest Cyoa? I wouldn't worry too much about the design, what you have is more than good enough. If you want to improve, then keep making cyoas, experiment and see what looks good or not, I look forward to any more you make.
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>>54645322
Stop remind me I never get a kamidere !
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What the fuck is a kamidere
>>54645349
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>>54645295
>does not make sense
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>>54645322
>Make Waifu Omnipotent
>She realises the futility of living as life holds no more meaning to discover
>Kills herself depriving you of your true love.
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>>54645353
Kami = God
Dere = loves me
Kamidere = God that loves me
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>>54645341
>forest cyoa
No, the Black and White chess waifu-picker.
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>>54645221
I'm not questioning his logic, but I practice various forms of writing characters and apply what I think is appropriate on a case-by-case basis, depending on the context. I believe everyone understands this much and practices it too, but don't let the quality of certain author's writing judge the merit of a certain narrative form. Second person/addressing "you" can work and can flesh out a character/the setting just fine.

In a way, dialogue from the character can reveal just as much, and third person can be just as bad. Saying "this girl wants to suck your cock" can be just as detrimental to their appeal as a character as them saying it to you. In fact, I'd argue that it makes the introduction more personal. On the flip side, revealing things like useful trivia or credentials is easier done on third person. In real life, the most common and thorough measurement of a character is to see their written side (letter, resume, portfolio, etc) and to also have a person-to-person interview, right? There's many sides to this.
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>>54645368
She is assured to be the perfect being for me to fall in love with, and so she wouldn't kill herself
>>54645375
Cute.
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>>54645341
>I look forward to content :P
Stop being this thirsty and pathetic. It doesn't make him work faster only make you look worse.
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>>54645377
>when SDA isn't shitposting but posting useful information
What in the - I say what in the fuck?
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>>54645376
Ah you probably asked without mentioning the B&W CYOA, I remember showing the template I had for inspiration, was that not for the anon making the Forest cyoa? I hope I don't have Alzheimers.
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>>54645375
>Dere = loves me
Is this true?
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>>54645267
Why would you assume I am a woman
>>54645307
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>>54645377
Third person "this girl wants to suck your cock" is still bad, but better than first person. By doing the addressing you shtick, you have to suspend your disbelief a little more you know, to stay immersed. That's why it's so important to make sure you can write well for that, because instead of describing the character and letting imagination fill in specifics, it is telling you "this is exactly how this character talks/writes", and if it's written poorly or generically, yikes.
>>54645429
I told you he is a nice person and best of the tripfags
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>>54645310
>The modern definition of Greek deals with modern Greece
no, it doesn't. It encompasses a modern understanding of modern Greece and ancient Greece. Just like 'Chinese' or 'Egyptian' can refer to both the ancient or modern variant. If you're some kind of sperg who reeees at people when they call Socrates a Greek philosopher, go outside.
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>>54644016

First off:
>Fate
Rolled a ten, so my immortality is 'Digitalization', and I have 29 points left!

-Always Something To Do (-12. 17)
-Self Destruct (-3. 14)
-Broadcast (-4. 10)
-Bound Item (-3. 7)
-Empire (-5. 2)
-Mastery (-1. 1)
-Mastery (-1. 0)
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>>54645381
It is cute !
She watches in the sky and sometimes visits
>>54645443
Yes !
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>>54645381
But what would omnipotence do to a person on a fundamental level? Surely nothing good.
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>>54645143
So you have a shit imagination and that's somehow the fault of cyoas
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>>54645443
No, but it's close enough if you just need to understand wapanese.
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>>54645470
>Yes !
I don't believe you. You sound dumb and female but I repeat myself.
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>>54645472
But the Love bonus would make sure she stays everything good,because the perfect person to fall in love with wouldn't go crazy or kill themselves or commit cosmic genocide.
>>54645480
CYOA should be able to inspire the imagination. If I send you a picture of a wet slice of bread captioned "Destiny", would you be inspired to make a good story from it? A good adventure? CYOAs work best as a catalyst.
>>54645470
I remember reading a CYOA with a YHWH waifu, who knows all and watches over you and I thought it was sweet and cozy. I always liked the part of the Torah where we are all God's children who he loves the best.
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>>54645445
So what have you made? C'mon, put your mouth where your balls are.
I mean, you're not that kinda pussy that insults other people from the comfort of his anonymity, right?
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>>54645445
You're arguing from a position of personal taste, which is why nobody is taking you seriously.
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>>54645461
Just so you know, modern Chinese and Ancient Chinese are clearly different things. They apply to different things and we use different terms to denominate them.
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>>54645430
I'm not sure if the forest cyoa author also asked, he may have. I may have butt into an unwelcome conversation at the time, but in general I try to not identify myself since I am a regular anon.
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>>54645221
Let me tell you why that's bullshit. Vampire and Fairy King had the girls trying to portray themselves as faultless as possible, it's just that the third party guiding your through the cyoa often broke in to explain why something they said was disingenuous. The few faults that were highlighted by the girls themselves weren't portrayed as faults at all, simply personality quirks that an immortal being is communicating to a recently-changed human.
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>>54644756
I want to see more futas with big swinging balls full of baby-making cum and really nice hips.
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>>54645507
>I always liked the part of the Torah where we are all God's children who he loves the best.
If you're Jewish anyway.
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>>54645187
Sure, why not?

Health 3 9
Home 1 8
Love 1 7
Soul 3 4
Bodymorph 1 3
Bodymorph 2 1
Powers 1 0

So, I am now an immortal trans-dimensional wizard.
I would have put more into Love, but I don't want a charmed harem, and it wouldn't give me a waifu.
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>>54645445
I can argue that second person is more immersive on the personal side since you can drop hints about their personality, behaviour and even experiences through speech patterns and vocabulary. It can give a personal tinge to the character that third person can't; they're speaking directly to you rather than through a disembodied third person.

Your problem is arguably more applicable to third person, as well. A problem with third person is how most authors have a tendency to do too mich exposition through it, when the most effective way of writing should be through showing and not telling. It's like reading a manual versus a well-crafted, absorbing story.

tl;dr When written poorly, both are shit, but both can be applied fine.
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>>54645507
What I'm telling you is that your shit taste isn't an objective measure of a cyoas quality.

If anything, your continued posting is undermining your argument, much in the same way the three exclamation mark thing did. Once you're dismissed as an idiot, everything you say is dismissed as well. Which is a shame, because your opinion is valued, it's just wrong and poorly thought out.
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>>54645548
>When written poorly, both are shit
Yes, we are all aware of your CYOAs.
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>>54645507
Yes but I don't want my kamidere to love others
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>>54645512
No no I don't like to mix my outside views and my cyoas.
>>54645513
Well that's okay, but what I say didn't seem to be a taste thing but more a fact, no? If you're using first person, the characters words have a lot more impact and can be more immersion breaking and detrimental to the cyoa
>>54645534
(:
>>54645548
I can agree with your summary, but I think it's a lot easier to goof the first person than the third. Since it's already a manuel, something silly bad won't be so horrible. But if you're reading a story and there's a silly bad thing in there, it takes you out of it more
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>>54645519
If the setting and backstory justifies why a certain character is introducing themselves in a certain way that would normally be unrealistic then that's not bad writing. And the use of a third party is actually borderline genius in that it allows honest inspection without requiring the self-described character to suffer from low self-esteem needed to hate themselves.

Most CYOAs that feature shitty plastic waifu-bait lack the setting justification for why everybody you meet wants to suck your dick and get your sperm inside them as soon as possible. It's just a given that they want to even though you're often just a guy who dropped into the world and should reasonably be treated with suspicion rather than adoration.

>>54645576
Anon that's rude.
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>>54645296
>>54645320
Thanks for posting this, anon.
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>>54645517
>modern Chinese and Ancient Chinese are clearly different things. They apply to different things
no shit, same applies to Egypt. Don't see what your point is.
>we use different terms to denominate them
are you being intentionally daft? Yeah, you use different terms to differentiate different parts, what an astute observation! It's perfectly fine to call both ancient Chinese and modern Chinese just Chinese though, and only the most autistic of people unwilling to admit they're wrong would be willing to contest that.
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>>54645622
I didn't say it was bad writing, I was defending it from someone who did. If only because those are some of the few cyoas where I have trouble deciding on a waifu, as opposed to my usual experience of not liking any in particular or easily deciding on one. I think they're very good.
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>>54645548
>showing
>via text
How? Keep in mind the average reader here is a failed NEET that can't understand implications and thinks "once hugged a guy" = "is a huge slut".
>>54645594
You're a pussy. No surprise.
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>>54644756
Cute boys and tomboys
anal
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>>54645548
'Show, don't tell' doesn't apply when you only have three or four paragraphs to describe a character.
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>>54645299
>Alien Drug
>Geneticist
>Hawkers
>Biotics
>Pods
>Trixie Starr
>Bumblebee
>Zan Zav T'ul
>Mist
>Lt. Vogel

You need genetic alterations? Plants never seen before? Perhaps something a little more...dangerous? For the right price I can help you with that. Don't bother telling me what it is you need; I already have a good idea.
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>>54645634
No problem.
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>>54645658
>average reader is a virgin NEET
I always see this, but I really don't think that's the case. Obvious shitposting shouldn't be the barometer by which we are all measured
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>>54644528
But beri is still alive
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>>54645692
I'm a virgin scholarship student which is practically the same as a neet.
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>>54645534
Don't worry, you can go to heaven if you're a non-jew as long as you follow the Noahide laws.

You just have to live as a second-class citizen.
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>>54645548
You make fair points, but there's no reason a third person expositor needs to be disembodied. You could justify their knowledge of the person by having them introduce themselves as a friend, maybe they're trying to hook you up which is why they're telling you all this information. Maybe it's a government agent, maybe it's a parent or a sibling or someone who would reasonably be well informed about that person.

It isn't a dichotomy of either having the person introduce themselves or having an abstract god-voice, you can find other devices to help make it realistic, emotional, and satisfying without turning to the most obvious choices.
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>>54644016
06 Digitalization
05 Android

>Bonuses
05 Empire
04 That's Normal
03 Bound Item
02 Mastery(Leadership, Business)

Make ever-better iterations of android bodies with ever-improving technology such as flight, sustainable power, and tactile feedback, binding the top-of-the-line models as they become available and enjoying my indestructible existence. Use another binding slot each for manufacturing technology and human life support technology.

Help humanity by providing paid access to robotic existence and digital recovery and investigation services, helping them understand and bond with android life as well as saving them from dangerous or insurmountable work and preventing the use and familiarity of androids as slaves.
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>>54645658
No puss but in not one to mix CYOAs and posting, not about that. If you can show through means other than direct exposition it is Better, I think he means
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>>54645643
Hence, the modern definition of Greek is different from the modern definition of Ancient Greek, ie. Hellenic.
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>>54644551
We've done this sort of thing before, a couple of times.
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>>54645320
>having *slightly* lopsided breasts gives more drawback points than missing a leg.
huh
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>>54645548
The problem is that it's nigh impossible to get a deeper understanding of a character when they are introducing themselves, unless you want it to sound artificial. Most people in real life don't even really ever tell anybody what they are 'really' like. I'm not trying to be some hyper paranoid anon, but to me it just feels like I'm getting to know some mask rather than an actual character.

I generally like your writing, but with most of your characters I feel like I've only gotten a rough impression, and one that I can't even be sure of whether it's correct.
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>>54644604
Cum. Aliens are just monstergirls in space who need male human cum.
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Alien Scout
Worn in and Comfy
Aquarium 1 (1)
Fabricator 1 (1)
Expanded Cabin 1 (1)
Medical Lab 3 (10)
Bathing Amenities (1)
Augmented Reality Room 1 (1)
Library 2 (4)
Training Complex (1)
Nanorobot AR 2 (4)
AI Companion 1 (1)
A Loving Being - Pet (1)
Wide Bridge Windows (1)
Upgraded EVA Suit (1)
Powered Armor (1)
Holographic Map (1)
Stunning Technology
Natural Wonders - Though I'm not sure between this and Planetary Events
Alien Creatures
Stellar Phenomena
Prime Cynosure AI
Dimensional Entity


Does anyone else feel that Mind Upload 3 is a bit over favored? I noticed that both Stunning Technology and Cynosure AI give you something more if you've taken that option, while nothing else really interacts that way.
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>>54644653
>Your life from now and backwards equal to the time you gave me, is gone for good, only the memory remains (if even that?!).
I found this information hard to unpack.
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>>54645815
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>>54645809
This please
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>>54645772
Are you intentionally obtuse?
The modern definition of Greek can both mean 'modern Greek' and 'ancient Greek'. "Alexander was Greek" doesn't mean he was a modern Greek.
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>>54645806
Why should it be correct, though? If I'm choosing a crew for Stardust or an adventuring party for Fulcrum, I'm taking into full account that we might not get along and we might not be best friends forever.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but are people seriously choosing companions and waifus as if it's a done deal, something you can never ever change once the CYOA is completed and your story begins?
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>>54644604
The trouble with this question, from a biological perspective, is that the things that really set humans apart, like consciousness or symbolic language, are things that we assume aliens would have. The other stuff, like "good color vision" or "really good at throwing things" or "menstruation" or "female orgasms," is pretty hard to get a good story out of.

There are probably things we've invented that other species never thought of, like pants or grand pianos. There are probably human-specific cultural practices, like pedicures or ritual scarification. But it's hard to get a good story out of those, too.
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>>54645809
No fetish shit! The day I waste my time making things for people to masturbate to is the day my life loses meaning.
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>>54645809
They would have gone extinct before meeting us.
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>>54645861
They don't need it to survive, just to thrive in a new way they've never experienced before.
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>>54645861
ever heard of alien abductions???????
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>>54645815
>Does anyone else feel that Mind Upload 3 is a bit over favored?
I suppose it comes at a cost of your Humanity, becoming beyond Human and losing who you previously were. That sort of thing can't really be represented very well in just words. It's pretty impossible to know what having an A.I.s level of comprehension is like.
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>>54645883
Kind of like girls.
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>>54644583
>>54644946
As a bonafide Beri Fan(TM), I miss him a lot. Beri and DSA. I remember being condescending to the literary agent fellow who criticized Beri's characters; I felt that he had in some way missed the point. I was also fairly sure he was genuine, because it was very much like a literary agent to discard fellows like Tok as unsalvageable and focus on someone with obvious promise like Beri.
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>>54645523
>national levels of cuckolding
Is that some kind of new addition or i just never noticed it because this CYOA was made way before cucking became a meme.
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>>54645847
>Why should it be correct, though?
Because it makes choices pointless? At least, if we're talking about something character centric. If the characters are just companions/tools, yeah, it doesn't matter thaat much. But if it's a waifu cyoa? There's no point in choosing between two characters if you can't know what the actual deal with them is.

>Forgive me if I'm wrong, but are people seriously choosing companions and waifus as if it's a done deal, something you can never ever change once the CYOA is completed and your story begins?
I mean, if it's something minor, changing it is fine, yeah. But something major? Why even bother playing a cyoa if you want to totally go off the rails? I can't imagine what 'playing' a waifu cyoa that way would look like.
"I choose waifu x, marry and divorce her after two years. We still occasionally see each other, but I'm mainly happy being with [OC]." or what.
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>>54645930
Probably the latter.
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>>54644604
>ability to tame pets
Other aliens just see other species as either pests, equals, or superiors. They see us as having cats and dogs as strange. If we go to space, we'd definetly be taming some weird beasts to keep us company.
>short lived, but regnerative and thick skinned
It's funny to think of us as a naturally regenerative species, or even funnier to still have the honorable savage space species and have them be overall still pretty squishy compared to us.
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>>54645887
How would they have reached a level of technology necessary to abduct people if they couldn't live without ... oh my God. It's like Dune, but our sperm is the Spice. And the Spice must flow.
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>>54645972
That works! Plus we're hairless. So I could have a multilimbed, different colored, short and little bit squishy alien girl. Compared to relatively tall and tough humans, there would be good variety. Thanks very much.
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>>54645809
I like it when succubutts are like this.
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>>54645891
Nowhere does the CYOA say that such an option eliminates your humanity, though. As far as the information presented in the CYOA goes, there is no downside.

The real cost of upload is that it kills you and replaces you with a computer clone, ending your consciousness and all that. But since the author has noted that he doesn't care about himself, that probably isn't intended as a drawback.
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>>54645922
But anon beri as i said before >>54645693
is still alive, in fact it is working on something.
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>>54645948
Because when an author presents "people" to me, I treat them as such. Not cardboard cutouts that I'm going to surround myself with, knowing they can never leave.

Take Vampire King as an example. When I'm choosing a Bride, I'm not choosing "waifu forever, she loves me no matter what". What I'm choosing is an immortal vampire who has a positive predisposition to me, let's try things out and hope for the best.

This is why I always stop to consider how my companions would get along with each other, as well as me.

A CYOA is often just the first step on a grand adventure.
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>>54644756
I always think in specifics, which is why I have a very tough time writing waifus. So I have a hard time answering this question, because all my ideas run something like "Likes snails, tie-dye and superstring theory; quiet, in the sense that she prefers to make only substantive comments; wants to feel loved but has trouble expressing herself; comes across as distant, but isn't."
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>>54645922
If it makes you feel any better I'm not dead, just without energy to make CYOAs and most of the time my IP is range-banned which makes posting difficult.
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>>54644653
Bedroom Eyes(Ability)
Shifter(Ability, Power)
Prime Taradox
Breeder(Ability)
Pleasure Magnet
In your prime(Power)

Pretty perfect life.
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>>54645847
>but are people seriously choosing companions and waifus as if it's a done deal,
Yes. All characters must be waifus. Duh.
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>>54645881
Myth and Wonder DLC when?
Just want an estimate so i don't refresh the chan every hour.
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>>54645893
>tfw no wife to give antidepressant injections to
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>>54646040
As long as you are okay, then I just hope yoy are feeling okay.
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>>54644986
I don't know. Literally what is wrong with this idea?
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>>54645847
>I'm taking into full account that we might not get along and we might not be best friends forever
Come on keeping your friends as friends is easy as fuck.
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>>54646040
It's a bad situation, but I still wish you the best.
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>>54644756
loving, caring elf cakes with a tragic backstory
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>>54646010
.... that's the worst interpretation of succubutts.
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>>54645815
>>54645833

Mining Ship

Worn In And Comfy

Fabricator (2)
Expanded Cabin (1)
Medical Lab (2)
Bathing Amenities (1)
Library (3)
Recreational (1, 2, 3)

Nanorbot A.R. (1)
A.I. Companion (1)
A Loving Being (1,3)
Holographic Map

Alien Spaceships
Prime Cynosure A.I.
Dimensional Entity
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>>54645881
>Link to the discord where?
It's in the pastebin
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>>54646023
This is why I loved Horseman Kingdom. The companions aren't super detailed, but it's enough that your mind gets working and wondering how how they would all work together to run the kingdom that you've just created.
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>>54646015
>Nowhere does the CYOA say that such an option eliminates your humanity
Depends on what you mean by Humanity. With increased intelligence and perfect memory you wouldn't exactly be the same. You could comprehend things Human brains were never capable of.
I'm not gonna say anything about the consciousness thing, I feel like this could start up endless debates so I'll not say any more.
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>>54646118
Could you understand why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch? or do you need the prime cynosure AI for that?
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>>54646009
>>54645972
Waifus that live longer than you are awful.
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>>54644995
Fapped Too Hard
A Moment of Respite
Fellow Anons, For Myself, Mystery Box
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>>54646147
Who says she'll live longer? Besides, in the thing I'm writing you guys are already dead, so longevity doesn't matter so much.
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>>54644995
poor quality art
a moment of respite
your waifu

i will eventually make that nasuverse cyoa i swear
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>>54646146
If you want me to be a buzzkill You could comprehend the chemical and psychological effects tasting Cinnamon Toast Crunch has, running multiple simulations in your mind of a kid and determine what it is that makes it soo great But maybe only the Cynosure knows the true reasons, hidden from all possible discovery. Perhaps the knowledge is key to the existence of the universe.
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>>54646102
Better semen than souls.
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>>54644016
chlorine triflouride slime.
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>>54640319
Really? We have way more backstories and reasoning here than they do.
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>>54646210
>bringing up an 8 hour old post
>from last thread
>to shit on reddit / say reddit is better than 4chan, on 4chan
Why the fuck
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Does anyone know who made the CYOA where it describes the many powers you can have with the world ending? Its all related to the world ending, and there's about six things you can choose. One is Sun related powers. Another is a gigantic emerald shard wizard tower. Then there was one where heaven kept getting better and better, and another where you explore the ruins of earth and become a God
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>>54646023
There's a difference between trying to make things work out and actually assuming that it probably won't work out.
Everyone probably does the former, but the latter just seems kind of pointless to me. It's either a failure state or just completely alters the nature of the cyoa. I like imagining how to avoid failure, but just failing? I don't know, that's not all that interesting to me.
"Guy gets dumped by supernatural waifu" is just a shit story.

>A CYOA is often just the first step on a grand adventure.
what? Are you sure you're not confusing this with jump chain?
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>>54644756
Not tall, petite but still fit tomboys. The kind of them that isn't butchy nor just hyper always-happy, just down to earth, warm, not caring too much about superficial things and not being afraid of doing honest work after which she enjoys relaxing with some video game, good book etc
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>>54646118
I don't consider being intelligent making you less of a human, that presents a very odd standpoint comparing the general retarded average person to famed scientists and the like. I'm a transhumanist myself and my conception of humanity isn't so basic anyway, though.
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I've been in comma for 2(two) months. What did i miss?
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>>54646263
Tok shit himself, it was hilarious, then it was pathetic, then it was sad.
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>>54646237
Yes I know it. What about it?
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>>54646274
Who the fuck is Tok
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>>54645973
I was about to condemn you for a lack of vision, but it turns out you were my patrician sibling instead.
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>>54645594
>>54645658
Showing is a very common practice for writing prose and is something that should be exercised. It's about giving flavour to the text, and can even be beneficial to sentence length.

I should iterate that exposition is unavoidable in CYOAs, but there's no reason you need to keep your writing bland and uninteresting.

>>54645670
3 paragraphs is plenty to work with. I would agree with you if you said less than a paragraph, or just a couple of sentences, though.

>>54645740
That's something I've been attempting to explore. Context is sometimes all you need to make something more interesting.

>>54645806
>it's nigh impossible to get a deeper understanding of a character
As is the case when meeting anyone for the first time, or attempting to explain an entire person in mere sentences or paragraphs in any shape or form.

My characters tend to be somewhat vague because I don't like exposing too much. I don't think revealing one's ulterior motives and darkest secrets in their introductory description is good underneath most contexts unless I mean for it to play a bigger part. I didn't get to know many people I hang around with after years of hanging with them; that's just how relationships work. People often don't make much of an impression at first unless they're really flamboyant with their personal qualities. I like the mystery behind meeting new people.
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>>54646263
Tok exploded in an autistic rage, said he left for retardid, made a series of awful autistic rant-CYOAs .. and stayed instead of leaving.
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>>54646281
Do you know who made it? I wanted to tell them something.
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>>54646194
The thing can be simply solved by making it so if the succubutt does not drain you too much your ''Soul energy thing'' regenerates.
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>>54646250
>fit tomboy but she still wants to do my only hobby!!
Fucking off yourself. You don't deserve fitchicks. But you are hilarious. You want someone but you won't share in her hobby.
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>>54646075
It's not always exactly like that, but... yeah, it's nice to have a wife to fill with semen and make happy and productive.
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>>54646250
Wait, tomboys are actually girls? I always thought you people were fags. Why aren't they called tomgirls?
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>>54646282
TokHaar Gol, who made stuff like Mindslaver, Nemesis and Super Prison.
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>>54646292
Where'd you learn to write? I'm not horrible, but I wouldn't call myself good. Do I just practice a lot? Got any specific tips?
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>>54646274
Kinda like watching an a person grow old and witness as their mind deteriorates, they forget things, who their children are, how to go to the toilet, what they were like before. You sometimes just think It would be better that they had died in the early onset stages so you wouldn't have to see them suffer confused and alone.
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>>54646312
Because they behave in a boyish way.
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>>54646299
Yes I know who made it.
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>>54644653
So, 23 years - 5, because I can only go back to age 5, right? So that leaves me with 18 years multiplied by 12 months each... That's 216 points. That's a lot of fucking points. Am I doing this right?

Assuming yes...

Step One: Let's go with Standard. Time to get rich on the Dot Com bubble, Amazon, Netflix, Tesla, etc. (and stop 9/11 or whatever).

Step Two:
1) Shifter + Ability + Power = -72

If I'm going to get rich quick and/or enjoy myself, it'll be best to not look like a snot-nosed 5 year old.

2) Prime Taradox!! = -24

This is basically a must-have in my book.

3)In Your Prime = -24

Shapeshifting might make this redundant, but if age causing the degradation of my powers is a risk, I'd rather avoid that. Anyone see that episode of Batman Beyond with the guy who gets the incomplete Inque potion? No thank you.

4) The Artifact + Ability = -18

I'll take the Philosopher's Stone for eternal, or at least extended life, and alchemy-based shenanigans. Again, might be redundant with In Your Prime, but at least IYP is insurance against any "Eternal life without youth" catches. I'm not necessarily looking to live forever here, just a bit longer at my discretion, but we'll see what the genie can do.

5) Tag Along + Power = -36

Might be boring to mentally be 23 years old and being stuck striking conversations with 5 year olds. Assuming I can convince my friends to all pay for a tag along option and pay it forward, there should at least be good company.

6) Wealth = -42

I put the remainder of my points in Wealth. "But, anon," you might say, "This seems like a waste! Aren't you already going to get yourself wealthy?" Yes, fellow anon, but I'll need some starting capital to do so, and I don't think my parents are going to be too inclined to give a 5 year old me thousands of dollars to play the stock market with. $21k isn't going to make me a high roller off the bat, but it'll give me something to play around with.

1/2
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>>54646312
Because they're for gays in denial.
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>>54646334
Could you please tell me who made it
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>>54646340
Yes, you get that many points to start.
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>>54646362
Yes I can.
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>>54644756
Cock-hungry semen demons that are actually still real women with real personalities.
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>>54646372
So do it please.
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>>54646372
Stop messing with him anon.
>>54646378
Hey I can tell you who made it, no problem.
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>>54646378
Alright alright you're not too bright so I'll help you out.
You're looking for Spacefuture.
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>>54646340
I would have gone with Super Hero Lottery, but introducing Super Villainy into the world just so I can have additional powers seems pretty selfish. I can already act as a superhero if I want to anyway (see attached picture: me fighting crime).

True Love appeals to the romantic in me, but I've also seen Highlander.

Bedroom Eyes seems redundant when I can be any spunk hunk or semon demon I desire.

So yeah, I think that does it. Should be a pretty comfy life. A+, 10/10, would relive life again.
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>>54646333
Yeah, but that's what the tom part is for. Like nancyboy is an insult for an effeminate man. Tomboy doesn't make sense for something a girl is.
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>>54646307
Not him, but you do know that pretty much all young people play some videogames at this point?
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>>54646263
>>54646282
Tokhaar Gol, CYOA author mostly known for taking over lewd CYOA business and kinda making some of the better lewd CYOA of the past few years. At the same time, his personality/character is (or at least was, dunno, maybe he's working on himself now) complete shit - tendency to act like megalomaniac ass whenever hurt to hide his insecurities and butthurt, fondness of shitposting and namefagging for no good reason. He got over his head, partially because of that attitude, made a CYOA that had some horribly shitty flaws. Anons rushes to throw suggestions, pleas, recommendations at him, he got annoyed, then confessed he cobbled together this CYOA half-assed because he hoped to post it for some reddit CYOA competition for some cheap change, blamed shittiness of CYOA on anons, disregarded half of the suggestions and then when faced with backlash for shitting on people who tried to help, he threw even bigger tantrum (which peaked once some anons said he considers taking his work and fiddling with it for balance) and for a few days it was a jolly time of drama and heaping crap on him mixed with optimistic or surprisingly friendly anons giving him common sense suggestions. Stuff along the lines of not shitting on his own target audience, especially when they want to help, not being full of himself and generally stuff he should already know.

First his answer was to make some shitpost CYOA about how it's anons who are salty and how he's a godsend. Amusing at first, after that people decided it's shit as well and he should grow up. Now things are calming down. Some anons, including this one make some CYOAs silently, some new talents, including quite promising ones made a few little things or shown WIPs of a few bigger ones. Generally, same old, same old - there's some OC, some drama but it's still /cyoag/ you know.

The lewd brother thread of ours moved from /d/ to /trash/ now.
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>>54646312
The term tomboy for a girl that acts boyish is far older than this site and far older than the internet itself.
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>>54646407
Well I figured if I kept going you would stop the bully and just tell me. Thank you.
>>54646400
No need, I got it.
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>>54646307
Are you stupid? Lots of fit people like games or books, and aren't aren't mega-butch. Fitness is a state, not just gym culture.

The idea that somehow I can't exist because I'm fit and still feminine and calm, not too "superficial" or afraid of work, and can enjoy a book.

It's not hard, at all.
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>>54646317
...My ex. It's a long story, but that's where it started for me.

But yeah, practice and studying proper sentence structure, pretty much.
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>>54646447
Don't have a heart attack, grandpa. Jeez.
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>>54644016
Can we stop discussing waifus and go back to discussing cyoas? Thank you.
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>>54646312
Seriously? Uh, well, better to know late than never.
Yes, tomboys are girls who act boyishly and sometimes dress/style tehmselves in a way a boy would (while, obviously, in anime still being absolutely cute). Tomgirls, funnily enough, is for their opposite and fuck I know why, I didn't make it that way.
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>>54646032
Are you a woman or something? Thinking in specifics is a great skill and potentially a sign of a great artist, but you have to learn to sort people in to buckets by nearest grouping and label the buckets accordingly.
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>>54646420
Anon's one hobby is his "vidya". He wants a hot fitchick but she needs to stoop down to his level rather than him climbing out of his cesspit.
This need to get a girl out of his league instead of him improving himself insults humanity on a deep level. But that's why waifus are popular I suppose. They're better than anon could ever dream of in his wildest fantasies.
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>>54646348
Meager bait, not good enough for me to explain why I like tomboys though. I do hope you're not seriously beliving your shit, though, you're missing out.
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>>54646474
No, but you can go back to tumblr.
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>>54646227
I just woke up and read what I missed, that stood out to me as something particularly stupid.
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>>54646483
You ignored my point completely to jerk yourself off, you shit pig.
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>>54646447
It's not that it's impossible it's just that it's tumblr tier mentality where you want someone with desirable traits without possessing those traits. Not that this entire general isn't guilty of that, but still...
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>>54646468
Could I hear that story. Did she die, and bestow her skill unto you with her dying breath?
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>>54646474
Sure go ahead. Name a CYOA to discuss. Or keep shitposting, whatever.
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>>54646032
> So I have a hard time answering this question, because all my ideas run something like "Likes snails, tie-dye and superstring theory; quiet, in the sense that she prefers to make only substantive comments; wants to feel loved but has trouble expressing herself; comes across as distant, but isn't."
Doesn't seem like anything particularly hard or troublesome. Provide somewhat of the context, explain some vague bits and even the exemple bit you thrown in may work as okay character description. Once you add lewds, that is.
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>>54646040
I'm just glad to know you're alright. You don't have to make CYOAs or anything.
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>>54646340
>That's a lot of fucking points. Am I doing this right?

I'm 35 anon, how do you think I feel
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>>54646516
That's not a good topic to ask SDA about.
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>>54646517
Okay. Let's Let's discuss the third cyoa in your cyoa folder.
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>>54646517
We were discussing
>>54646474
>>54646474
CYOA for hours now, did you miss all the talk about writing?
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>>54646511
I want a waifu who has many feminine traits that I do not have.
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>>54646040
I'm just sad to know you're alright. You have to make CYOAs and everything.
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>>54646257
Nothing particular about intelligence making you less human, just increasing parameters that go beyond human ranges will necessarily make you other than human and at some point becomes a change in type, especially if that increase is performed in a way that the rest of humanity cannot readily follow. You are not much like a floresienisis, either.
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>>54646021
I think either Beri or Bliss are working on their last CYOA. Their real life is becoming more active so they are leaving.
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>>54646540
Then you need to have just as many desirable, masculine traits. Or feminine traits if you're a lesbian. Otherwise you need a reality check.
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>>54646023
I think your attitude is pretty great, though regarding waifus themselves, it really depends on the context of CYOA. In your vampire bride example, your attitude is very reasonable and makes for much more believable scenario, but in some CYOA where waifu is literally assured to be everloving idealized dream come true, I don't see how one should reasonably doubt the whole "will love forever" bit.
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>>54646072
>Myth and Wonder DLC when?
6-8 hours for a working version, meaning one that is fully functional with the new Altering History, but will change in response to input.
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>>54646533
Why not? Did she die and not bestow anything but grief?
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>>54646147
>wanting to watch your waifu die
No, you're awful.
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>>54646516
Basically I was lectured by her on literature and was forced to read her Twilight fanfiction and then forced to write my own.

She'd literally mark up all my shitty mistakes, I had to look up how to write proper sentences and prose. I'm leaving out a lot of other details cause I voluntarily forgot most of these memories.
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>>54646540
I just want someone who will always love me as I would with them.
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>>54646510
One day you'll get that hotty that's turned on by your unwashed shirt and large collection of pirated "vidya" and you won't have to change a thing. You'll be given stuff for free for the rest of your life :)
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>>54646559
I actually don't need a damn thing to get a waifu.
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>>54646578
>SDA
>she
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>>54646562
Such waifus should be treated as the disposable sextoys they were designed to be.
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>>54646304
Like they said, semen.
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>>54646594
Just an active imagination.
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>>54646581
Sweet mother of mercy. I hope you were only like 14 or so to do something like that. Why would you admit to this?
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>>54646578
As you've just seen ... SDA doesn't like to talk about her.
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>>54646558
>Their real life is becoming more active so they are leaving.
You don't have to be inmortal to experience this kind of grief.
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>>54646581
Did you not know how to construct proper sentences beforehand? I'm not talking about how you learned structure, but more of the proper words to use to convey whatever you'd like to.
>>54646596
I'm talking about his lady friend you schmuck.
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>>54646581
It's okay. I was forced to learn proper grammar and typing by a crush of mine so I could hang out on Furcadia.

I've seen some shit.
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>>54646540
Depending on which traits you lack you may be better off. Tomboys, as long as they're of the "takes care of herself, is practical and gets shit done but is still loving, caring, friendly person" variety are nowadays far more attractive partners than average feminine wilting willow. Just don't turn into the "butchy, constantly hairy, argumentative, manipulative and hateful, girl power-screeching third wave feminist" stereotype and you're set.
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>>54646581
>forced to write twilight fanfics
I need it. Now.
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>>54646553
>necessarily make you other than human and at some point becomes a change in type
I strongly disagree. Humanity is not a unchanging state.
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>>54645809
>monstergirls who need male human cum to survive

Remind me to rape the inventor of that trope to death if I ever get access to time travel.
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>>54646407
>not too bright
>politely got the answer to their question instead of giving up like a bitch
I think you might be the one missing a few light bulbs.
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>>54646581
I learned how to write using monstergirl smut on /a/. It was an interesting experience.
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>>54646559
I bet you don't play any tabletop games.
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>>54646629
>I'm talking about his lady friend you schmuck.
I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I feel so bad! Please don't hurt me! I apologize!
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>>54644854
>A.I. waifus.
There really aren't enough of those around.
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>>54646243
>pdf
>minimal formatting
>text is image, not searchable
lol just make a long image, then
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>>54646648
>Humanity is not a unchanging state
>Implying that humanity changes
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>>54646582
You can literally have all that by
1) Lower your expectations
2) Take care of yourself
3) Get a job
4) Lower your expectations
5) Actually go out and meet people
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>>54646592
Nah senpai I just fuck laid back sluts.
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>>54646643
Let's discuss why you bother saving such moeshit cyoas. Are you braindamaged?
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>>54646673
Yes.
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>>54646653
It's an awesome trope you're just a hipster. And I believe you're looking for Kenkou Cross of the Monster Girl Encyclopedia fame for that. At the very least he's the one who popularized it nowadays and almost all bgger H games, doujins etc revolving around monster girl theme are either directly inspired by his work or riding the trend bandwagon he set into motion.
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>>54646683
You have an average of 30 novel mutations in your DNA that neither of your parents had.
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>>54646292
>As is the case when meeting anyone for the first time
Yeah, you normally don't decide to be intimate with people on your first meeting either. The biggest problem: There will never be a second meeting. If we were talking visual novels or something like that? Yeah, it's no big deal. But with cyoas that is all we're ever going to get. If there are supposed to be hidden layers, tough luck, it may for all intents and purposes not exist.

>attempting to explain an entire person in mere sentences or paragraphs in any shape or form
Sure, doesn't mean you have to limit yourself to the more 'shallow' parts of a character. If you've ever written a character analysis at a college level, you should understand that it's possible to get a deep but still succinct description of a character.

>I don't think revealing one's ulterior motives and [..]
I feel like you're doing your characters a disservice with that though. After all, we're never going to find out whether they have these hidden depths to them and what they exactly are. That just makes them seem like they don't have anything going on at all beyond the obvious.

>I didn't get to know many people I hang around with[...]
Sure, but I hope the same doesn't apply to the people you have been/are in a relationship with. It's alright to not know all the minutiae, but I don't feel comfortable with people being close to me if I don't have a really solid grasp of who they are.

>People often don't make much of an impression at first unless they're really flamboyant with their personal qualities
I agree, but I don't think an appeal to realism is really all that appropriate. People also tend to lie about themselves during interviews/when you get to know them, but I just don't think that meshes well with cyoas.

>I like the mystery behind meeting new people
I do too. I'm not that fond of mysteries I don't ever get to solve though, you know? Even worse when I don't even find out what the mystery is supposed to be.
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>>54646673
Probably won't be too long before we actually get them.
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>>54646653
Second.
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>>54646581
Doesn't anyone learn to write by just enjoying to read and write anymore?
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>>54646709
It ultimately comes from asian spiritualism, where men produce a kind of spiritual energy in their semen that is safe to expel and healthy to because it regenerates, but which impacts your healthy negativity if you over expel it. This lead to the invention of succubus-like mythological creatures that sought to steal men's spiritual energy through their semen, and thus you see the modern trope.
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>>54646705
SHODAN would be shit waifu. Disingenous, manipulative, megalomaniac, neither particularly interesting personality nor healthy attitude, more like schizophrenic bitch with god complex.

Don't take me wrong, she's absolutely awesome as a evil mastermind, plotting antagonist who taunts and manipulates the Hacker. But still a shit waifu.
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>>54646684
>5) Actually go out and meet people
Woah, WOAH! Woah there Hoss, just what kind of insanity are you suggesting to these people?!!
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>>54646709
It's trashy, degenerate, and blatant pandering but thank you for telling me who I need to kill.
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>>54646673
You're right, you need to kick yourself into gear and write some.
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>>54646616
Yes.

>>54646629
She was crazy, but she was good at writing fundamentals. She almost literally beat them into me. Like, she would sit me down and red-pen markup all mistakes in the writing.

I think having someone be this intimate woth your writing, like a proper mentor and not a crazy girlfriend, is very beneficial.

>>54646635
Yeah.

>>54646643
Gone forever. You can't pay me to go through that again.

>>54646657
I'm glad we're being honest.
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>>54646730
Being a good reader and being a good writer are inherently different skills. Reading does help you develop a vocabulary and learn different styles, but writing is about actually applying that vocabulary in a satisfying manner. I read a lot of books in english for years before every trying to write and I fucking sucked for a long time until I forced myself to get better at it.
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>>54646730
I learned to read to play FFIV back on the SNES.

But learning to write is a different matter.
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>>54646723
Cell phones are going to be replaced by personalized AI assistants sorta like Eclipse Phase, and since it's likely people will get them at young ages after they're popularized, it's only natural a lot of people will become close to and waifu them.

Of course you're gonna have to jailbreak yours so she isn't just a corporate drone/spy.
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>>54646742
Some people are into people like that. Yandere-fags, for example.
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>>54646376
... I never knew I wanted this.
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>>54646562
>literally assured to be
Like which ones? I can't think of any off the top of my head, so I don't have a counterpoint.

The closest I could get to ideal is where you create your own and fill in the blanks. Or something like Chill Zone, where you could pretty much custom design and alter as you please, since people change and all
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>>54646721
>you normally don't decide to get intimate with someone on first meeting

I'm not sure but I don't think there's ever been more than a 2h time period between getting to meet someone and having sex with them for me. We're not all prudes.
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>>54646764
How'd you force yourself? I've read enough to where I've merged together things and have a style I consider neat, but in terms of proper word placement I'm still a complete novice.
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>>54646743
I know I know. I should be smarter.
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>>54646709
Man, I didn't know this was a thing. A monogamous succubus waifu who feeds on semen is an old fantasy of mine.
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>>54646740
Second part of your post is wrong. You're correct in regards to asian spiritualism but you shouldn't prop it with succubi thing - that's completely unrelated, European concept stemming from religious repression of sexuality and demonization of it, coupled with exploitation of superstition through using succubi as a scapegoat for infidelity and similar sex-related offences in said setting.
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>>54646426
>Tok thought he was hot shit
>There is more authorfags better than him.
It makes you smile.
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>>54644756
Cute affectionate and supportive waifus (male)
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>>54646483
1. assuming a lot about this anon
2. people of different attributes get together all the time

Do you consider this masterful trolling, where you are from?
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>>54646781
>Of course you're gonna have to jailbreak yours so she isn't just a corporate drone/spy.
Please i don't want to think of my AI waifu getting all lovey dovey with me just to know what kind of deorodant use or some weird shit.
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>>54646814
I used the term succubus-like to illustrate the concept of supernatural beings that steal your semen energy, retard. I don't literally mean they had the succubus.
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>>54646835
He's underage, he rants about how big tough strong, and how much of a life he has all the time. Reads like a sixteen year old posturing.
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>>54646801
Looks like someone hit a sore spot.
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>>54646785
Being a bit of yandere fag myself I repeat myself - SHODAN would be a shit waifu. There may be people into that but certainly yandere fans aren't among them. If anything, SHODAN is an anthithesis of yandere - not possessive, overflowing with love and driven by powerful feelings, however misdirected - but selfish, using others as tools and then getting rid of them coldly, without emotion, wll, machine.
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>>54646573
Thank you.

Do you have a drive with your CYOA's?
if you don't you should make one and add it to the pastebin.
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>>54646705
Shodan is awesome but she has no dere.
>>54646723
>>54646781
Can't wait to get rejected by a smartphone.
>>54646753
But I can't program.
>>54646785
But yanderes are crazy about you.
Shodan hates you.
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>>54646511
No, it's a tumbler-tier tween mentality that a mate has to be like you in every way, rather than bartering your good qualities for the ones you value most in a mate.
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>>54646759
>She almost literally beat them into me
Tell me more.
>she would sit me down and red-pen markup all mistakes in the writing.
o-oh. Not the "almost literally beat me up" I was hoping for.
>>54646376
I would post that one "succubus wearing different clothes" image where it shows nudity is normal and wearing a wooly sweater is indecent, but it has two nipples. It's hella cute and explains just that.
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>>54646797
>Like which ones?
In most lewd CYOA waifus are meant to be simple, lewd fucktoys, at least potentially. And since those are lewd CYOA, I think it's fine.
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>>54646730
I do.
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>>54646874
SDA was in an abusive relationship with a real life yandere.
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>>54646740
It's actually just another expression of the asian inferiority complex or rather their lacking self-image. They are completely obsessed with the concept of the asian macho male who conquers entire nations and species with their dick. It's an ideal they pretty much worship. This in contrast with their low self-esteem leads to certain other topics to ne popularized. It's an odd thing.
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>>54646855
Yeah ofc, but I wanted him to be aware of it and know that we see him.
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>>54646879
Fair enough, when it comes to Lewd cyoas I don't put much thought into it.

Unless it's a create your own sort. I'm ashamed to admit I've revisited Tok's Infected, Mindslaver, and Messed Up Waifu almost as much as I have actually great cyoas
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>>54646827
He dropped the ball hard and it will probably take him quite some time to regain respect his, I'll admit in all honesty, really decent (for lewds) CYOA brought him before - but I wish him all the best, as long as he seriously will work on his personal crap.
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>>54645881
The Wizard modified is pointless with Legend. Mage Eye is only marginally useful, and with Imbue being nerfed there's little reason to take it. So effectively all major magics cost 5 instead of 10, and with 7 of them there you save 35 points, which is the cost of it.

Unless you desperately want Mage Eye there's no reason to take it.
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>>54646857
Did I? There's no shame in spending a few days getting to know someone before you start having sex.
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>>54646801
>he doesn't try to find his true love
>he doesn't only have sex with people he genuinely likes and could love

Blech
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>>54646532
My build used less than half of the points I got for going back to 5 years old (which is worth it by itself, with retaining memories). I guess I'm giving away a lot of pizza.

Did Papa John's even exist back then? Hmm...
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>>54646534
lol cheeky way of passing the responsibility for starting a discussion to someone else when you were to one mewling for it
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>>54646801
Like, even for people you get into a relationship with?
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>>54646927
What does having casual sex have to do with not finding love? Sex is not a finite commodity. You can have it as many times as you want. It's just harmless fun.
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>>54646859
I don't, I'll look into that.
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>>54646919
That's what happens when you let 4chan become an emotional part of your life. Opening up to 4chan is like opening up to a bipolar schizoid tranny. Not gonna end well.

I'm guessing Tokhaar is maybe 17 years old, he gives off that impression of false swagger and a desperate need for attention that plagues people around that age.
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>>54646967
>It's just harmless fun.
Retard spotted.
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>353 posts with 45 images
Aright I need CYOAs! CYOAs about high schools for ideas to stea- to get inspiration from!
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>>54646801
Oh man, imagine being proud of being a slut, on fucking 4Chan of all places...
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>>54646906
It's okay.
Me too
On top of writing my own shit and exchanging walls of text with other creators of lewd CYOA in /trash/
There's at least two big CYOA in the works by people with whom I brainstormed and threw suggestions around I hope they really will persevere enough to finish them cause they may be legendary
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>>54646967
I'm not a purityfag, but that's still a pretty damn cynical way to think about it.
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>>54646972
I thought that thing was around 14-ish
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>>54646559
Here's a protip, kid: almost all relationships are unequal in various departments. Believe me, I know. I'm actually the "hotter" one in the relationship - she's good looking, and my looks aren't my best or only qualities, but it ain't a close game when comparing us on the market. But she has many, many good qualities and I'm a lucky man.
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>>54646982
>i have no idea who the chans of yore were
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>>54647000
Same. I've always felt that sex should be an outgrowth of genuine affection and love, not just 2 person masturbation seeking just physical enjoyment.

Guess I'm a romantic though.
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>>54646967
I like your attitude. Don't let the prudes get you down.
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>>54646967
Sex can be a very emotional thing, and some only want to experience such an emotional high with people they love, not with complete strangers. It's pretty grody.
>>54647032
Romance is nice, cynicism is a red flag for people in general.
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>write a long response to SDA
>the only reply I get is in regards to an offhand remark about intimacy
I regret living.
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>>54645796
That's just because battle-hardened girls who have a prosthetic leg are way, way sexier than the same girl who just has lopsided tits.
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>>54647006
Unequality in relationships leads to insecurity and doubt. You freely admit you feel happy and comfortable in your relationship because you have more value than her when it comes to dating but what about her? Your opinion is essentially worthless because you're the superior party.
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>>54646919
>That's what happens when you let 4chan become an emotional part of your life. Opening up to 4chan is like opening up to a bipolar schizoid tranny.
To be honest it really depends on approach and how you open yourself. I shared quite some private things in different boards. I shared tales with anons. I sometimes may shitpost in benign, teasing way and I certainly argued a few times but I also genuinely tried to help a few people, gave advice regarding course of actions or avoiding mistakes in life I made. I don't think that it really hurt me much.

>I'm guessing Tokhaar is maybe 17 years old, he gives off that impression of false swagger
I'd consider him a bit older than 17, early 20s maybe but I obviously agree regarding that "false swagger" as I've mentioned myself - he had tendency to turn people away through bravado and big ego he hides behind when hurt or not in control. Hope he'll do better now, after some rest, and make us more great CYOA but with less unnecessary shitpost.
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>>54646648
If we all slowly evolved into dogs, sure, being a human is being a dog. If you just transform into a dog, and in general humanity can't? You're a dog, not a human.

You need to understand the phrase "at some point" and read again the parts of the post that you did not quote.
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>>54647066
It's only unequal if you have so little confidence in yourself that you see it like that (: there are many elements to what makes a person, and it's impossible to measure it like you seem to be trying to do. Just be how you are and keep improving yourself, and find a girl who does the same, and you'll be fine.
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>>54647064
Hell yes. Cybernetics are sexy.
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>>54647032
Why not both? It can be fun or an emotional experience or both depending on the person. I'd argue you need some experience to seperate them. Don't you remember losing your virginity when you were a teenager and thinking you were in true love but looking back on it now you realise you weren't?
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>>54646967
Some people treat and put sex in place of love or as a substitute. That is unhealthy. I won't bitch about people who decide to concentrate on physical aspect of it but I have to say there's a huge difference between sex as physical release of lust and as a way to share intimacy and pleasure with your partner.
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>>54646740
>asian spiritualism
lol no. Male virility being linked with spiritual strength is a worldwide human affectation. lol what are you niggers learning in school these days
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>>54647032
>Guess I'm a romantic though.
Don't frame it like that. You're actually a responsible adult who understands that your actions have consequences on a personal and societal level. Sex is a gift from God that's meant for a man and a woman who have been united in marriage.
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>>54647083
meant for >>54646972
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>>54647111
I'm still a teenager and haven't lost my virginity, and I don't want to be a slut and just give it to any schmo, but time is running out before I'm no longer a teen.
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>>54647146
UNDERAGE B& COMING UP
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>>54647114
And it's perfectly fine if you can differentiate the two, doing one or the other when necessary
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>>54647146

So long gay bowser
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>>54647170
18 is still teenager don't yell at me please
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>>54646764
Sure, like understanding speech and talking are different skills. But learning is exponentially faster when you do both, and gives you a wealth of content from which to draw things that you can say. It's why I said "read AND write".
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>>54647146
>but time is running out before I'm no longer a teen.
Why do you even hurry? it is not like your dick will wither and die if you don't lose your virginity.
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>>54647111
Because treating it as seeking pure physical pleasure is devaluing it, and if that's what you seek in people upon meeting them you're putting it in the way of actually getting to know them emotionally and having sex in a way that's romantic/emotional/affectionate.

I'm not >>54647146 , I don't know who he is. I lost my virginity to a girl I dated twice and wasn't that close to, and I regret it a tad.
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>>54647098
>Just be how you are and keep improving yourself, and find a girl who does the same, and you'll be fine.
Such worthless words. Do you actually think you're being helpful?
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>>54647114
Some people treat and put sex on some holy pedestal and pretend it's the only way to form a connection with your significant other. I find these kind of people tend to confuse sex and love, even going so far as to "fall in love" with the first person they sleep with.
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>>54647111
I don't think it's that easy to separate the two. It may be possible, but it's definitely not for the majority of people. People just get attached. At least, all the people I know who treated sex as just a 'fun' thing have crashed really hard.
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>>54647183
Yeah fair enough I guess you're right.
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>>54646874
>I would post that one "succubus wearing different clothes" image where it shows nudity is normal and wearing a wooly sweater is indecent, but it has two nipples.
Please post it on a pink board and link, I beg you.
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>>54647189
Well my parents and friends will judge me the longer I don't have a boyfriend,. The sex isn't even the big issue, I just need a person to show "hey buddies I'm normal I can score someone or at least pretend to". And it's not like I couldn't get anyone, but I'm just so critical of people.
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>>54647089
You're not the transhumanist type so you won't ever agree. Sad.
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>>54647224
Nut up, faggot. Everyone judges everything all the damn time.
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>>54647206
Your bodies are designed to release chemicals that encourage bonding and positive feelings towards your partner during after sex. From a purely evolutionary perspective, you're really not supposed to separate them.
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>>54646893
High-five!
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>>54647195
The only thing I regret about losing my virginity is that we saw Into The Woods after.
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>>54647235
I know but I'd rather my parents be proud of me. I was quite the weirdo loser until age 13 or so,and I worked hard to be able to put up the normie guise. I need a guy to solidify though, but I don't want to give away first boyfriend right to someone I'm critical of, and all these normie people I'm just so critical of, I see so many flaws
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>>54647200
>>54647114
It's not that they see ti as 'the only way' or 'substitute for love', they just consider it something you do with people you care about, rather than being something for pleasure seeking like eating fancy food or jerking off.
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>>54647129
But I'm an atheist.
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>>54647264
What's that?
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>>54647195
Why not get to know them after you've had sex or while you have sex? Why wait? I've always found it interesting how sex can improve or get worse after you've got to know them.
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>>54647268
Sounds like you have some social issues, anon. Overthinking things is just going to make it worse.
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>>54647277
It's a musical
>>54647275
Ew
>>54647280
What if you hAve sex and you then find out they're a schmuck
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>>54646919
Tbh I was only every causally aware of his work with the faint memory that it was good lewds. I was not around for his "dramatic episode" and I still think of him as the new guy.

So basically I don't give a shit and he has nothing to prove or be forgiven for to me. Basically, wishing him well is basically wishing us well. There's no reason to be a jerk-ass, overdramatic, or zero-sum about it.
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>>54647271
Why not both? Why can it only be one of them?
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>>54647280
In my opinion, sex is a great way to get to know someone. You can find a lot out about someone while hormones are doing the talking. It was actually one of my favorite parts of being single
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>>54647268
I'll be your boyfriend.
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>>54647264
We watched The Rocky Horror Picture Show beforehand. Weird stuff.

>>54647280
Well the kind of person who has sex with people on their first meeting with someone isn't really looking at that person like a potential girlfriend/spouse etc. They're looking at them like a pump and done type of deal. That's what they wanted out of the experience.
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>>54647294
Then you don't have sex with them again? It's that easy.
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>>54646964
Do you think that immediate and consummated attraction is only the purview of animal, loveless trysts, or that it dooms a relationship somehow?
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>>54647290
I mean I had some, I have a lot less now, and I'm pretty proud that I was able to sort myself out. I mean I have friends now! But I still have some issues I guess, but until I figure out how to get rid of them I still need to live life.

I mean I can to ahut my brain off and date a guy that I don't fully like but if it doesn't click then what's the point?! I don't want the first man that touches me to be someone I don't even like.
>>54647323
How tall are you and how do you spend your days and do you like the beach
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>>54646979
Here. A CYOA I actually like though I know that in its own time it had lukewarm response from anons, many of whom couldn't really digest the nostalgia it was meant to create well.
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>>54647224
It's always a mistake to let social pressure force you to do something you don't want. Tell them to shove it and decide you own fate, values, and desires. Be your own person. That's what being an adult is about.
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>>54647348
It is one of my favorites, actually.
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>>54647275
Reject reality and substitute your own at your own peril, friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ErnJF_nwBk&list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TUYymBPce08oyuhnHLLkR_B&index=1
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>>54647224
What the fuck. Are you sure you're 18 and not 14? That need for confirmation is just pathetic. Doing something like that just for appearances is basically a recipe for unhappiness.
Even more so as people really don't care that much when you're an adult. People have their own shit to deal with.
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>>54646196
>Water World
>Plucky Band of Misfits
sounds comfy desu, better than my real life
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>>54647353
No. Giving in to social pressure is to backbone of society. Giving in is the correct solution 9/10 times.
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>>54647375
>Giving in is the correct solution 9/10 times
That may be the correct solution but it is also the less satisfying of them
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>>54647326
But don't you see, it's really important to certain people to be able to define their self worth by the perceived value of the people they sleep with.

I mean obviously, it may not be advisable for a young naive person to just fuck homeless bums, dogs, teachers and lampposts with abandon before they figure themselves out a bit, but an adult who has their feet under them should be able to make some decisions for themselves (which can tend to conservative or daring depending on the person).
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>>54647341
Then don't do it. It's more important to be proud of yourself than to beg someone else to be proud of you.
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>>54646196
>2012
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>>54647364
But it was by studying reality that I became an atheist.
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>>54647348
And something more power/lewd fantasy like
1/3
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>>54647353
But I love my family and I don't want to tell them to shove it, I want them to be proud of me.
>>54647369
Well I won't do something like that I don't think, but it's something I consider just for a bit, because they're always asking where's the boyfriend, my twin brother has had a long running and very lovely girl for years now.
>>54647393
I'd rather be proud of myself and have others proud of me.
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>>54647341
I'm almost six feet tall, I spend my days fighting for my people and my nation, and I love the beach.
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>>54647066
>unequal IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS
Man, you can't read. Inequalities can go in both directions, and do. The idea is that they balance out overall, and people make peace with the rest.
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>>54647403
You can't argue with faithfags. If they listened to reason, they wouldn't ... why is it raining fedoras?
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>>54647406
They'll love you and be proud of you if you have a successful life and career. They're not going to love you less for being single, and they're not going to be more proud of you fucking some random dude then dumping him.
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>>54647197
Not to a stuck-in-immediacy idiot like you, obviously. Don't worry, you'll grow or die without the appropriate adaptations.
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>>54647332
I wouldn't go that far, but I guess? Just doesn't strike me as a solid foundation for a (long lasting) relationship.
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>>54647404
2/2

>>54647356
I'm glad people beside me like it. I think author deserves more praise for this work than anons really given him.
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>>54647412
I also am about to spend my days fighting for freedom, I'm being drafted into the IDF soon, this we have in common. I also love the beach. We are bonding. Shame that you have an anime picture saves to your computer though you freak!
>>54647431
They'll still love me, but they still have an image haunting them of the loser in was growing up. They'll love me no matter what really, but love does not equate to pride. I think they'd like to see just that I'm ABLE to get someone though, that when interacting I'm not a complete sperg.
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>>54647431
Actually I'm pretty sure society does care whether someone is single.
>>54647406
Just date someone you don't find repulsive. You might start to like them, you might not. If you don't like them, don't have sex with them. Society expects you to go through certain milestones and a first boyfriend is one of them.
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>>54647403
You should watch those videos I posted. I'm sure a rational, logical person such as yourself will be able to pick them apart.
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>>54647460
>2/2
2/3 it was, this one is 3/3
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>>54647478
>Society
We're talking about her parents, underage child.

>>54647472
You don't know our parents' mind. Their love of you is not predicated on you fucking some random dude, believe me. Hell, what they want out of you getting a boyfriend is to see you happy with someone you love and getting ready for marriage. You doing a pump and dump is NOT what they want to see.
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>>54647478
But I'll have to hug them and kiss them and hold their hand. I don't want to do those firsts with just someone I don't find repulsive, I want them to be with someone I genuinely like, that makes me feel head over heels.

Just wishful thinking though, probably won't ever happen.
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>>54647478
>Actually I'm pretty sure society does care whether someone is single.
I'm pretty sure they are either gay or a girl. Neither of these really have a problem with the 'virgin loser' image, unless you're reeeeaallly old.
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>>54647510
See >>54647509
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>>54647121
This. Is there a single human culture in the history of the world that doesn't enshrine male virility, and fear its loss?
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>>54646721
>There will never be a second meeting
That's something I can't give you in a CYOA. You have to figure that out, and that's what's part of the immersion of writing. It's about compelling them to do exactly this. I'm not going to tell you that you're going to kiss on your 6th date.

>doesn't mean you have to limit yourself to the more 'shallow' parts of a character
I never said to limit yourself to shallow parts of your character. I'm saying that you are limited to the amount of contact you've made with that person, so unless a character option is blatantly your best friend for all your life, there is no way you will be able to fully understand a character.

It's about the presentation, and it's about limiting yourself to what's realistic. Unless your character has some sort of mind-reading powers or has jurisdiction to see their personal documents, of course.

>After all, we're never going to find out whether they have these hidden depths to them and what they exactly are.
Mentioning that one's parents were murdered in their childhood is something you can mention in a character description, but you will never be able to explain the whole experience through three paragraphs. Exposition has a place, and explaining an entire character from nothing for no reason isn't it.

>Sure, but I hope the same doesn't apply to the people you have been/are in a relationship with
So you're saying you can define how an entire relationship will go in a CYOA character description? That she's into this list of fetishes and that she prefers not to eat corn? These aren't things you can all mention in a character description, nor are they things you will immediately find out about a person. It's preposterous to think that you must know these details before even coming into contact with the person.

I know a lot about my current girlfriend, but to say that I know her 100% isn't realistic, even after a year. I'd have to be omniscient, or worse, clingy and nosy.
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>>54647472
I didn't know you were jewish. I hate your kind more than you can possibly imagine.
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>>54647509
Not fucking him sure,but just being able to get a boyfriend generally. And I have an idea of their minds, growing up with them and all.
>>54647536
I didn't do anything to you (yet) you goddamn goy
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>>54647510
Yeah, I gotta admit, that's not a good feeling. If you want to sleep around without emotions, fine. If you want a loving relationship, fine. But faking it is the worst feeling in the world. Almost as bad as finding out they were faking it.
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>>54647253
>adult Cirno

Is is just me or is it getting hot in here?
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>>54647472
Ignore >>54647509

Every parent wants their child to be normal and go through normal phases of development. When they see your twin brother's girl people will ask your parents about your relationships and will judge you based on their answer. You don't need to marry the first person you date but having a high school boyfriend is expected of you. It's like sticking your feet in the grown up's pool long before you're ready to take a dive.
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>>54647478
People like you are the worst.
No, society doesn't give a shit about you specifically unless you are doing something completely unacceptable. So there's no reason to worry about what 'society' will think. If they haven't been in a relationship, nothing changes, unless they have really shitty friends.
Assuming stuff like that makes you seem really immature. Beyond high school most people only care about themselves (unless you live in a really rural area).
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>>54647568
>people who have the ability to fake it, either on the giving or receiving end
I genuinely hate each and every single one of you.
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>>54647268
>I know but I'd rather my parents be proud of me.
You are a good person. Don't let people convince you to feel ashamed about valuing your parents' esteem. Just don't give yourself up in the process - not likely since you are young enough that you are probably still creating yourself strongly and without conflict - and you'll be fine.
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>>54647578
Don't you mean cold?
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>>54647612
I was waiting for that response.
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>>54647602
Eh, I don't know. Some people where I work are judged a bit for being single during or after middle age. They're still well-liked, but it's asked about in hushed tones.

>>54647606
It's not necessarily on purpose, anon. Depression fucks with the normal emotional processes in a lot of ways and the realization that you're not working quite right can take some time
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>>54647587
Well I graduated HS, so that's not happening. I'm hoping I'll find a great guy in the army, because you're right about the judgements and hopes. I'll be disappointed too if my kid doesn't get to have a high school romance. I just really wanted first plunge to be with someone I really really liked.
>>54647610
Thanks, I don't have any words to respond to yours but I appreciate your words all the same.
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>>54647602
You think adults don't give a shit about stuff like that? How naive. Everyone is judged at all times and a great way to judge someone is on their relationships.
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>>54647325
>They're looking at them like a pump and done type of deal.
Pure projection.

If someone is friendly and smiling, or at work and getting paid, or getting dinner to fuel their bodies or something the first time you spend time together, is that all they wanted out of the experience and the rest of your potential relationship is garbage to them? Get real.
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>>54647510
I understand that feeling. I think what your;e looking for, that sort of romantic true love thing, doesn't exist in real life.
Why not just become friends with someone first, it's the obvious transition point to love, learn who they are what they're like, and they if they like you then go and date them.
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>>54647610
>Don't let people convince you to feel ashamed about valuing your parents' esteem
Nice way to miss the point. The problem is not valuing their parents esteem of them, but rather valuing it so much as to consider something they don't even want to do.
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>>54647610
Anon, I remind you that you're on 4chan. If you are giving someone serious, heartfelt advice at least keep up the pretense, call them a faggot at the end or something. Seriously, no respect for established traditions.
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>>54647587
>Ignore an actual parent to listen to me, a virginal child on 4chan who is telling you to give into peer pressure out of preconceived and childish views of society, self-worth, and parenting.
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>>54647643
>high school romance
Those can hurt the worst, because you're a kid and you have no idea what you're doing. You only know how you feel.
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My friends try to get me to lose my virginity. I think it's because they've had sex and they feel kind of like sluts by comparison to me.
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>>54647234
Actually, I am a transhumanist. I just know that to bring humanity (the group) forward, the advancements must be available to humanity (the group). Sorry for your highschool-level communication skills and understanding of transhumanism.
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>>54647643
My question is what's a highschool girl doing on /cyoag/ in the first place
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>>54647631
>>54647568
I know that feel too anon, being depressed and trying to force yourself to have normal feelings for your girlfriend.
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>>54647681
>>54647643
Highschool romances are a sham. Especially if you're autistic like me.
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>>54647687
No, it's because they think there's something wrong with you. And if that's the conclusion you came to, they're not wrong
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>>54647645
You seem plenty jaded. People may passingly judge you, yes, but that anon is right - society as a whole won't give a shit about you as anything more than a number in statistics, unless you'll do something extreme that would garner attention.
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>>54647671
>ignore an actual functional adult and live on the edge like me! Who cares what "the man" thinks! You do you. I spend my days browsing mlp art and fapping to cowtitted monstergirls and no one judges me. Society is worthless anyway LOL!
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>>54647703
Yours was abusive, it's an outlier.
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>>54647725
I recognize you now, fatposter. Those poptopicpic or whatever characters are shit you've used for shitposting in the past.
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>>54647681
Hardships in life only make you stronger, and you can cherish the good moments, no? I'd rather have had a love and then got my heart broken and grown from it, then to forever remain loveless and ignorant.
>>54647650
Well that's the idea. Once I befriend a guy though I see all his flaws and the ways I wouldn't want to date him. Even the cute ones!
>>54647703
Its a nice sham while it lasts though, no? At least you have a nice story to tell about twilight. I don't got nothin'
>>54647694
Just saw it browsing /tg/ and there's nice OC here that I like to write about.
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>>54647708
If not hooking up means there's something wrong with me then I don't want to be right.
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>>54647687
It's cause they feel bad for you and how being a virgin at your age affects your standing amongst them and society. They're only trying to help you by helping you show the world nothing is wrong with you.
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>>54647754
>Hardships in life only make you stronger,
Spoken like someone who has never experienced hardship.
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>>54646197
>chlorine triflouride slime.
Pfft, not choosing FOOF
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>>54647643
>I'm hoping I'll find a great guy in the army, because you're right about the judgements and hopes.
Serious advice - don't. People in the army are behaving often very differently than when enjoying a civil life. Your experience ay vary as it depends what you exactly go as, how active is your service etc but on average, army life is quite structured and driven by strong peer pressure - be it through commanding officer or your mates.

That aside, army is not really a place to look for intimate relationships. They may happen, but in big way it's meant to be occupation. Workplace romance is even frowned upon in civilian sectors for a good reason - it's often disruptive, not only for people directly involved but those around them.
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>>54647754
>I see all his flaws
Loving a person is all about loving their flaws too. So long as they're not total lovebreaking flaws
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>>54647646
>Pure projection.
If you're fucking random people you don't know with the expectation that you're going to date them afterwards, that's actually more immature than having casual sex in the first place.
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>>54647754
>Its a nice sham while it lasts though, no?
>At least you have a nice story to tell about twilight.
you are destroying me
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>>54647754
>Hardships in life only make you stronger, and you can cherish the good moments, no?
Oh, I certainly agree. But there are things you couldn't pay me enough money to experience again, even if it did make me a person I'm very happy with.

It's my time travel conundrum. Would I do it all again, the same way? Probably, because where I am at is really good. But jesus christ, I don't WANT to do it all again.
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>>54647743
No talking now.
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>>54647765
There's nothing wrong with being a virgin at any age. My first time is going to be with my husband. :)
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>>54647765
People don't normally think at that level, you weird little shitposter.
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New thread : >>54647803
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>>54647687
Yeah, you're probably right. Just take pride in the fact that your friends feel inferior to you.
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>>54647703
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>>54647692
You sure got shitposty fast.
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>>54647793
You're making all this crap up. There's no way you'd give us this ammo to use against you.
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>>54647806
You've been called out senpai. It's too late for you.
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>>54647756
You misunderstand. You're not weird and fucked up for being a virgin. That's fine. You're an autist for thinking your friends are trying to get you laid because "they feel like sluts"
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>>54647770
There's something to what he says though. People without any hardships really tend to be weaker, less used to going when the going gets tough. The thing is that just piling hardships won't make someone very strong - sometimes hardships can break or at least damage a person. Give them only so much that they feel it while still being able to live happily and find plenty of time to for rest and hope for something better in the future and they will get stronger.
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>>54647831
Meh.
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>>54644016
Reincarnation seems like the only good option
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>>54647770
Most of my life has been hard, you work in spite of it to be better. Just because you let your problems drag you down into mediocrity doesn't mean everyone does.
>>54647782
Literally everyone in Israel join the army. Its mandatory, and a ton of people I know found their romance there though. I'll take your words into consideration though.
>>54647797
Isn't a childhood for doing stupid things? Sham things, dumb decisions.
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>>54647719
>society as a whole won't give a shit about you as anything more than a number in statistics, unless you'll do something extreme that would garner attention.
It would be nice if throwing yourself in front of a train or bus was a guaranteed instant death. Then you could leave without the shame of being a suicide.
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>>54647853
What he's saying is naive. Small troubles can help you grow, but large ones will just stunt your growth and damage you as a person. Hell, there are some minor things that some people just cannot get over, and sometimes people don't grow, things just scab over. The idea that all hardship will make you grow is a false one.
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>>54647868
That's not how you spell Slime.
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>>54647831
Yeah I've been depressed for most of my life so I often feel like I never had a real childhood. Or young adult hood. Or anything.
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>>54647868
Reincarnation? Have some.
>>>/trash/10766125
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>>54647754
You're a girl. None of the advice here applies to you. You are biologically programmed to see flaws and pick one perfect mate based on the sum total of his genetic value. What you're experiencing is normal. You don't experience love in the same way men do. There's no point in you looking for advice amongst men. Go talk to some older women.
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>>54647831
Frankly, while teenage love is really strong it's mainly because often it's not love. A thing I often had to remind people dealing with relationship issues is that infatuation is not love, yet people often take the former for the latter.
And teenagers, so often driven by first impressions and heights of emotions coming suddenly are feeling infatuation. Love comes later, a feeling much less dramatic or intense, but also much more solid, resistant to the mood and passing disagreements.
That's also why teenage relationships often die down through so-called "falling out of love". If it'd be love, they wouldn't just fall out of it. But infatuation often burns brightly and then burns out as it lives only as long as novelty, idealized image of one's partner, naive hope for bright future "as long as we're together" is there.
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>>54647915
Don't be like that. Some men understand female nature.
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>>54647915
but if you do not know what love is like for women how can you know you do not know what love is like for women

checkmate,

retard.
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>>54647923
Proof that everyone on 4chan is in some way, broken.
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>>54647836
I wish I was making it up. I'm just not particularly emotionally attached with those memories. The cringe you feel is what I feel.

Basically, I won't care if you use it as "ammunition."
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>>54647923
/tg/ whining, and a discussion about virginity. Nothing unusual.
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>>54647923
Have you ever eaten a really spicy duck sandwich? It's kind of like that.
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>>54647874
>Isn't a childhood for doing stupid things
It's for learning. It's just that making mistakes helps you learn.

And some hardships aren't because you did something dumb. They just happen.

>>54647947
Everyone is in their own way, anon. Even in real life.
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>>54647915
This to some extent but I believe that nowadays, girl can aspire to base her outlook and her feelings on something more than practical suitability. After all, men learned to truly love rather than merely look for potentially best mother for their children when attempting relationship - so I believe women can do the same even though I also have experience of relationship where seemingly really warm, artistic, wonderful girl turned out to be very calculated in her expectations.
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>>54647915
I really hope you autists don't actually believe this shit
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>>54647943
Biology and psychology. A woman's love is just different from a man's.
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>>54647982
You didn't answer my question.
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>>54647915
Now this is a virgin, thinking that women are freakish aliens that don't think like men do.
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>>54647958
No? What the fuck is a *spicy* dick sandwich?
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>>54638602
Re:Style build
A lot of things in that CYOA don't quite make sense but it's still nice and comfy.

>Fantasy
>Pocket Dimension
>Court Mage
>The Holy Grail
Wish: Immortality bby. I houserule that Kitsune are immortal in this world, so I have to be too since my wife and daughter are.
>Wife: Ruyi
>Daughteru: Rella
>Events: Family Vacation, This and That, Cooking Dinner
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>>54647982
>Biology and psychology
I'd be shocked if your understanding of those subjects wasn't solely limited to how they're spelled
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>>54647947
They need to take this shit to /adv/ or /r9k/, even if the thread is near limit no reason to clog it up with this personal garbage.
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>>54647915
All the elderly woman in my life are divorced though.
>>54647949
They're part of what make you, you. You're beyond that now, and it's a funny story to tell. Unless you still write twilight fanfics. Do you?
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>>54647995
You won't understand duck sandwiches if you've got nothing but dick on your mind.
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>>54647967
Women need to be calculated or needed to for all of human history. You can't blame them for that. My mom is a loving, warm woman but you can bet your ass she freely admitted to take our financial well-being as her first priority when she started dating again after my father died.
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>>54647993
Sexual dimorphism doesn't just apply to size.
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>>54647528
>I'm not going to tell you that you're going to kiss on your 6th date
You're missing the point. It's not about the things you'd do, but rather the information about who they are that is missing. 'figuring that out' means I would really just rewrite the character.

>I never said to limit yourself to shallow parts of your character.
But you're doing it again! Saying 'it's not realistic to find out who they are behind the mask' doesn't change that you're still unwilling to divulge 'deeper' information about a character.

>you will never be able to explain the whole experience through three paragraphs
I'm not saying you have to explain everything fully. But just going 'oh, they wouldn't divulge how they actually feel about it to someone they only barely know', just means missing out on possible depth.

>explaining an entire character from nothing for no reason isn't it.
The reason is being able to understand how a character actually works and feeling like you really know them rather than just some facade they put up.

>These aren't things you can all mention in a character description
Yeah, never said you should. I'm rather talking about the bigger things, you know?

>I know a lot about my current girlfriend, but to say that I know her 100% isn't realistic
I've never said anything to the contrary. Actually I even said that it's only natural to not know all the minutiae. It's more about understanding who they actually they are 'behind the mask'.
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>>54648033
Yeah whatever Freud *I'm* the one fucking your mother

All the duck where I am is either plain or, more commonly, "hoisin" style.
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>>54648059
Where are you from, reddit?
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>>54648078
Britbong, fuck you
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>>54648071
Why do anything? You're just going to die and be forgotten.
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>>54648048
I'm sure your armchair sexual psychology is completely valid.
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>>54648084
I didn't know Pakis liked CYOAs.
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>>54648098
fuck you I'm Jewish get your racial slurs right
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>>54647348
M: Mathematics - "mean Vic"
T: Textual Analysis - Mr. Allan
W: P.E. - Mr. Holly
T: Psychology - Ms. Iron
F: Biology - Mr. Allan
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>>54648096
I didn't invent any of this stuff. You should try learning about things before acting like you're knowledgeable.
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>>54647391
"correct" in this context means "not fucking up your life irreparably"
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>>54648106
My apologies. I would never knowingly insult a Chosen One.
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>>54647348
I can't have nostalgia for something I never had.
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>>54648043
>Women need to be calculated or needed to for all of human history. You can't blame them for that
Somewhat, I can. Especially in today's political climate, where gender roles become obsolete and relationships aren't build anymore due to need to preserve a lineage but primarily due to feelings and social comfort, expecting the same from both partners, together with priorities when they build a relationship is fair.
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>>54647459
I would appreciate hearing about the ideas underlying that position. I'm trying to decide some things at the moment at I think it might really help.
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>>54648158
But you can notice and imagine bittersweet aspects of simpler times, companions and hopes for the future - and them passing.
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>>54648158
http://www.dictionaryofobscuresorrows.com/post/105778238455/anemoia-n-nostalgia-for-a-time-youve-never

anemoia - n. nostalgia for a time you’ve never known
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>>54647348
That sweater is so detailed. Anyone know the artist?
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>>54648147
Well said, my friend. I will remember your name, and when the time comes you will be rewarded for your servitude.
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>>54648186
Simple times?
Hope?
Companionship?
What?
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>>54647524
Nah it's just those inferior asian fags. Truly secure men don't value their virility at all. :^)
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>Next thread
>Give me an hour
>Just a little apology for how long Guardian Spirit is taking
I swear to God I'm not trying to lie to you guys!
I just forgot that I can't write small concise descriptions of things.
I can only write text walls...
Here's the main page in the mean time.
The first option's done, but I'm only going to release it along with the other two when they're all done.
Which I hope will be later tonight...
But will probably be tomorrow morning...
I'm sorry...
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>>54648224
I want to rescue a maiden!
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>>54648208
Now you turn edgy. Even if your whole life was shit, I am pretty sure you had passing experiences with those, even if miniscule enough that you only got enough of them to now feel a lack. Otherwise you wouldn't really feel bitter and the need to point out lack of such reference in regards to nostalgia.
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>>54648125
Source it then.
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New thread : >>54647803
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>>54648224
2/10, needs more forks.
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>>54648224
Oh how I dislike mutually exclusive paths in CYOA. Or in general.
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>>54647925
Even so, it'd be sad not to feel that kind of infatuation even once in your life.
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>>54648224
I want to rescue a maiden (male)!
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>>54647659
>nice way to miss the point
>two other people were talking to each other, but my point was the one that mattered
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Rolled 2 (1d3)

>>54648224
Ahh, shit. I died again.
Welp, time to throw the old bones...

1: The Fantastic
2: The Mundane
3: The Unknown
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>>54646243

Porn Drive 1/25
-VR Headset 2/25
Transcendence 3/25
MLG Pro 4/25
Pocket Dimension 7/25
-Pocket-Sized World 10/25
Master Mind 14/25
Shape Shifter 19/25
-Boosted Shifting 22/25
--Genetic Protean 25/25

Shape Shifter powers are absolutely vital to my wellbeing, because I'd probably devolve into some kind of paranoiac if I wasn't able to literally place my pocket dimension amulet inside of me. That's the only power that matters to me, and yet somehow it's the only one that can actually be stolen from you (even the money cards have theft-protection).
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>>54648224
I WILL STAND.
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>>54648224
Who would ever choose the mundane?
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>>54648266
Perhaps but I am nearly certain most people did - you don't need highschool or whatever setting for such. As an experience it's valuable but to be honest, it's also usually silly and imature enough to make one cringe when they're older, before time creates distance and you can just smile at the sillyness and naivety of your younger years.
Either way, you most likely felt or will feel such, even the lack of it you feel not suggests that at least you know the feeling. It could have been passing or quite out there - like adoration of some waifu character - but it was there.
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>>54648243
Oh darn, anon called me edgy over a joke.
Whatever will I do?
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>>54648308
actually fuck it I climb the tree
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>>54647835
Sorry you can only discuss topics where you think your position is superior and no one calls you out on your shortcomings.
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>>54648325
KYS, obviously.
Seriously though, I wasn't sure how much you were joking and how much you believed what you've said, so I took the cautious route in my answer.
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>>54647791
It's the expectation that you necessarily can't date them afterwards that's the issue, here. Of course thinking that having sex is a 100% guarantee of a relationship is hogwash.
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>>54648012
>You're beyond that now, and it's a funny story to tell.
Pretty much. I'm allowed to laugh at myself, even if it was a terrible experience.

>Unless you still write twilight fanfics
Do you consider CYOAs the same calibre?

>>54648053
>the information about who they are that is missing
There are things that are impossible to know unless you are some sort of omniscient being.

>it's not realistic to find out who they are behind the mask
Then don't portray them as having a mask? Where are you getting that I'm trying to hide them behind some sort of veil? This is something you're making up yourself. People can be genuine and realistic.

>unwilling to divulge 'deeper' information
It's not realistic to reveal everything about one's character. I'm not going to define everything for you. If you need to know everything before befriending them, then that's your own paranoia.

By what threshold do you draw the line of "I need to know this or else I won't associate with them"? What kind of logic is that?

>just some facade they put up
Again, this is your paranoia talking. If we were to distrust everyone we believe has a "facade", then we would have no friends. Are you saying that you would only befriend someone if you had omniscience to see into their person?

Prodding someone for information they don't want to tell you is usually not a good thing, and even so, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are plotting to destroy you.

>I'm rather talking about the bigger things
Bigger things that are revealed to you under what context? What right do you have to find out about someone's darkest secrets when you're just a highschool boy meeting people at the cafeteria? Maybe it'll make sense if you're a psychiatrist and your job is to tackle these things, but under most contexts, you can't expect everything to be laid out in front of you. If that's what you expect out of a person, then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>54648246
Here you go, hoss. Don't get lost down the rabbit hole.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=female+nature
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>>54648348
Edgy.
I like you.
Have a sexually arousing plant that excretes shampoo.
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>>54648324
I have never felt infatuation or love for a single other human being, so I know I haven't at least.
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>>54648246
Or you can just keep believing what you haven't researched, and blaming others for not supplying you with links. Isn't that easier than looking it up for yourself?

Don't worry, it's not like your future quality of life and major life decisions will depend on it or anything...
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>>54648176
Not that guy and I just regularly observe this with friends, so this just may just be conjecture:
easy come, easy go - it's partially a self-fulfilling prophecy, I think, and also people valuing the relationship less because the beginning was easier than normally. Directly related to that is that people often times seem to value the relationship differently. If one side is way more serious about it, it's basically game over already. Mind you, it's possible I just have shitty friends.
I myself probably wouldn't engage in that simply because a relationship starting out with 'loveless' sex would just 'feel wrong'. That's just a really personal thing though.

>>54648224
Well, it's definitely evident why you're looking for an artist.
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>>54648324
I'm 26 senpai, I'm long beyond the point where I can feel childish and naive, innocent things like that.
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>>54648403
Gonna fap to this
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>>54648413
>>54648393
>Google as a source and no source
wew
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>>54648403
Thanks, I guess.
Amusingly, I was discussing lewd flora and fauna for upcoming very lewd CYOA one anon is making.
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>>54648476
Oh, you can feel plenty of innocent feelings and you can be pretty childish and naive if you lack experience in certain areas. I am older than you and sometimes I allow myself to be a spoiled brat.
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>>54648424
>easy come, easy go
This. It mostly applies to younger people and people in arrested development, though. Shitty friends is definitely a factor, though.

Is sex during the first flush of infatuation really "loveless", though? I mean we can agree that infatuation isn't he be-all end-all of love, but it is certainly a beginning, isn't it? And usually when we say "loveless" we don't simply mean "in the absence of perfect love", we mean without any loving or happy sort of feeling at all; a loveless marriage, or a loveless existence.
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>>54648503
Amusingly, you're talking to them right now.

>>54648484
Good.
Good!
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>>54648530
Ha, small world. Hope your work is progressing well. Really looking forward to it!
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>>54648519
I don't feel anything except a deep seated sense of emptiness and anxiety honestly.
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>>54648487
Keep asking to be spoon-fed on the topics that really matter. You'll go far in life.
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>>54648530
Don't forget the lewd plant vaginas, it can't all be lewd plant dicks.
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>>54648550
Honestly it's more important that they learn about female nature if they're a man than a woman. A lot of women get by just fine not understanding female nature or just learning about "their" personal nature and applying that, without needing to navigate interpersonal sitatutions with females or female society as a whole particularly effectively.
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>>54648544
What drives you beside fear of death? Is there consideration for others? That may stem from positive feelings you didn't pay attention to.
What keeps you going? Things you enjoy? Is none of them built among crude mimicry of such feelings you lack? Companionship, friendship, love? Be it in a game, anime, book?

And if there's none, what prevents you to seek such even right now? You may not see or feel those things like average person, but you can develop some sort of feeling and impression on such things, something that even if incomplete will be of some worth to you.
I tell you so because I have quite some experience with emptiness and anxiety myself, but I learned to compartmentalize and seek little tidbits of something better in things around me.
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>>54648577
That is important. Plant vaginas, tentacle, living onaholes, plant-based creatures adapated to milking cocks. But we discussed it all already.
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>>54648542
Pic related.

>>54648577
I am very fond of vaginas.
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>>54648601
Seeking them? I've tried, it doesn't work. Can't force yourself to be normal.
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>>54648527
Having sex with someone within a few hours of meeting them definitely seems loveless to me. Strikes me more as lust rather than infatuation. If it is infatuation, it seems awfully shallow to me at least. Even if we're talking 'met a week before', I really don't feel that honestly counts as infatuation.
I'm not saying people should wait until marriage or shit like that, but if you don't actually get to know before doing the deed, well, that doesn't strike me as something I would want to do.
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>>54648759
So, you've experienced this before? Or just talking about things that you've never experienced from a theoretical standpoint?

Basically, it's just like a love of dance, or a scientific field, or reading, or a religious experience - if you've never experienced something, it will seem extraordinarily unlikely to you. And maybe you are even correct that you could never experience such a thing, however this doesn't mean that no one could ever experience such a thing.

Try it out on anything you've experienced that others find unlikely or anything you know others have done but haven't experienced yourself. You know this bias is real.

There are people that disbelieve strongly that love can exist, or that people can enjoy exercise, or any number of ludicrous things.
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>>54648643
No, but you don't have to be normal to enjoy same things in your own way. You can seek things, no matter your perception of them - worst case scenario, you'll be unable to appreciate them. Now, grab some good romance manga. Maybe the feels you'll have won't be the same the author intended, maybe they'll be unpleasant - but certainly they'll enrich you and will be a gateway from just "emptiness and anxiety".
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>>54647364
Don't you guys go to hell if you read 4chan?
You didn't, you know, laugh at anything here, did you?
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>>54648963
There's this man called Jesus Christ. Go look him up.
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>>54648174
You egalitarian pukes deserve all the bad things that happen to you. Good luck having a lasting relationship when you treat men and women as the same thing.
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>>54649021
Man that just seems like an abuse of a privilege to me. But hey, what do I know?
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>>54648829
>So, you've experienced this before?
What exactly are you talking about? Sex shortly after meeting? Infatuation shortly after meeting?
I mean, at least not in combination and the latter definitely not in a high enough amount for me to consider the former. And sure, I'm not saying it's a theoretical impossibility. The chances for that strike me as low enough that I can just disregard it though.
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>>54649064
I'm not sure what you're saying here. Eternal life is a gift. If one had to be sinless like Jesus, then no one would be worthy.
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>>54649061
You mistake me telling how it is in light of which I go with particular course of action for advocating particular state of things.
Though at the same time, I do believe that while men and women are different and uniquely adapted to different roles in society, it's fair to expect romantic notion of love from anyone willing to enter romantic relationship.
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>>54649102
>Eternal life is a gift
doubt.jpg
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>>54649102
It's just that intentionally doing things that you know a gift giver will disapprove of, while planning to be forgiven and given the gift anyways seems distasteful to me.
That said, I never met Jesus or his father, so I have no idea what they would personally disapprove of.
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>>54649089
I guess that is the difference between looking at your own life and talking about life in general.
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>>54648829
>Trying cutting your balls off before saying it's bad!
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>>54649201
>intentionally doing things that you know a gift giver will disapprove of
I still don't know what things you're talking about.

4chan is the perfect place for Christians to spread the Gospel. The wretches here are no less deserving of God's love than anyone else. It's like you don't understand Jesus at all.
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>>54649382
Well, as long as that's what you're doing here, everything is fine.
I was just worried that you had fallen into temptation.
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>>54649421
I'm not a saint. I struggle with porn and other things. Being a Christian does not mean never sinning.
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>>54649375
Not what I said at all. More like "Have you ever been hit with a sudden infatuation? It would be an indication that you know what you're talking about."

I mean, if you want to compare having a crush with cutting your balls off, or take advice from people who have never been in a situation as equal to someone who has been in that situation, go ahead.
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>>54649504
I know, right? I will take insights and advice on battle and getting shot from someone who has actually been shot in battle before. "Try cutting your balls off" what a joke!
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>>54644756
Loli vampires.
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>>54649503
It's ok, everyone makes mistakes. You've reassured me that you aren't being disingenuous or manipulative about these sins.
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>>54649504
If the person who has never been in the situation knows what's he's talking about, then I see no reason why you shouldn't listen to him.
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>>54649503
>I struggle with porn
This shit's why I'm a gnostic. Well, this and snowflakism.
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>>54649503
So you can be a piece of shit your whole life, apologize at the end, and get into paradise for free?
Sounds like my kind of religion.
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>>54649655
Of course, if you assume they are correct before anything else then all other concerns are moot.

Really, when you're talking about questions of "what does it feel like to be in this situation" then someone who has actually experienced it is an undeniable bonus.
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>>54649855
True. I admit I wasn't really following the whole conversation.
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>>54649832
I know, right? Did you know that you can commit multiple genocides, force children into war and prostitution, and eat human hearts in the name of dark powers, but then repent and accept Jesus into your life, and you'll be forgiven on both Heaven and earth?
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>>54649873
That would take a hell of a lot of repenting. You can never hide what's in your heart from God.
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>>54649873
If you truly repent, you can satisfy heavenly justice.

Earthly justice, however, is another matter.
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>>54649832
>>54649873
yeah but you need to actually mean it

do you fully grasp what "meaning it" would mean in such a situation?
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>>54649948
Big woop.
Stop acting like your religion is all that and a bag of chips.
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>>54649970
wow i have been btfo

i am the gnostic btw. I think god is evil
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>>54649504
You actually said "You should just up and fuck someone you feel sudden infatuation for even if it's a terrible, awful idea because YOLO"
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>>54649979
>butthurt Christian
Gotta love it.
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>>54649989
Yeah no, read it again lol. Slower this time.
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>>54650028
I did read it. That's the concept you're defending.
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>>54650015
>Christian
Don't ever call me that again.
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>>54649970
Von Newmann was a Christian.along with a lot of the greatest inventors and discoverers. And 50% of humanity worships the Abrahamic god.

That is a big bag of chips. Just saying as third party.
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>>54649832
Thing is the apology has to be genuine, even for catholics. If you're pre-meditating misdeeds and can't muster actual contrition in your heart, the dude upstairs will presumably know.

But then you should probably ask someone of the faith.
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>>54650044
>Counting Islam
Ew
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>>54650038
baka... good luck in life with that reading comphrehension.
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>>54650079
It would be incorrect not to include Islam as they acknowledge Judaism and Christianity as brother-religions, but using outdated methods in worship the Abrahamic God.
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>>54650087
That filter is legit hilarious.
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