Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>54136711
At one point, my character was forced to wear vibrant orange slippers into combat, despite being a fairly dark and brooding sort. The reason for this was because they were the only 'Boots of the Winterlands' we had on hand, and an unnatural blizzard came over a town.

>>54136711
/sfg/ Link Repository: https://pastebin.com/3GfJKi0y

>>54136406
>Biting their tongue would have been useless due to the fact that healing such a thing would have been trivial.
Sticking on severed limbs requires Regenerate.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/r/regenerate/

Shit if a 7th level spell is trivial you don't need to take prisoners, or at least not ask them shit, you can just extract information from their mind. Sticking limbs back on requires really high level casters. Even if you're gonna pay for it to be put back on then you're gonna need to find a 13th level cleric.

>>54136711
>tfw will never be forced by the party Sonja and Elf to wear all the female magic items
>will never be forcibly trapified and ridden like a bucking horse till I need healing magic

>>54136824

Traps are only good for taking big meaty dicks, anon.

>>54136863
Thats what the elf is for?

>>54136875

They clearly wanted to be trapified and were not talking about Elf.

>>54136905
The elf is for providing the big meaty dick dumb dumb

>>54136499
>hurr hurr go back to a general that doesn't exist despite that having one general for each system is redundant and pointless

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>>54136765

That would run into the difficulty of entirely severing the tongue, as opposed to grievously wounding it, which could be more easily healed.

>>54137037
Elves are pure and faithful waifus, anon.

>>54136765
If only they had the Emergency Interrogator's Kit from AA2. >>54053497

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>>54137167
>mfw

>>54137146
I prefer to play my elves as less subservient and more maternal/paternal due to their advanced age. Most of the other core races tend to act for the short term (in the mind of an elf). Elves are tottally prone to one night stands. After all they live forever. They need something to fill the gap, and what better way than by filling gaps (my girlfriend would facepalm for that pun...). But in terms of being a faithful waifu, or even just a partner, that would take a lot more time (by human standards).

>>54137146

>mfw no hot, shredded big dick elf boys to ram my honey hole

WHY
EVEN
LIVE

>>54137146
Elves are all hermaphrodite because they had too much evolutionary pressure against being female. None of the females were allowed to have even children, always used to breed the other races instead. Now we have hateful herm elves that can work you over like a piece of meat in a butchers shop

>>54137283
Now THIS is a magical realm.

>>54137283
I am okay with this.

Especially if Spotted Hyena Gnolls are involved.

>setting has no half-elves or half-orcs
>player gets autistically angry about this because he wants to play a half-elf
>tell him it's because neither orcs nor elves breed like humans do, neither of them being even mammalian
>tell him elves don't even have sexes like humans do and orcs have three sexes
>tell him elves don't participate in intercourse and orcish intercourse is so different that a human can't even participate
>he gets angry because why would they even develop
>tell him that in the setting different races were created in different god's images, and the gods basically had no incentive to make their races breeding compatible save for the three brother gods who created the three variety of goblinoids
>the angry spiral keeps on spinning

>>54137248
Ladyknight?

>>54136711

Hokay, so, GM in need of some encounter-building advice.

I'm going to be running for a party that has a SoP Elementalist blaster-caster, a Pummeling brawler, a mageknight that does warp sphere shenanagans with Vital Strike, and a rogue that mostly does bomb stuff on the run from Underground Chemist+Scout. They're level 8ish, and basically will be able to dish out some pretty good damage, particularly in the brawler's case, while being able to move around.

I don't have a problem with this but I've been going too easy on my players for too long, and I'm curious what are some good ways to make an engaging challenge for a party that has terrific single-target damage but kind of meh area control in a desert-based dungeon crawl. I'm thinking I wanna put a lotta extra beef in my encounters for them so they can feel awesome by blowing through burly minions while at the same time not being able to just focus-fire the boss to death right away?

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>>54137248
You can find them if you look hard enough.

>>54137365
Now we just need someone to step up and run it...

>>54137382

Maybe

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>>54137417
Have the dungeon set up to ambush them
Use multiple traps
Have enemies attack them while the traps are being disarmed
Have enemies use alchemical items, like thunderstones and tanglefoot bags

>>54137451
Xiombarg's Storyteller, why hast thou forsaken us?!

That feel when you will never use your war soul's thark rifle mindblade to silver crane spiral all enemies within 1 miles

>>54137527
I can make a hot elf if you need one.

What's the difference between the shortbow and the composite shortbow?

>>54137697
Composite gives a strength bonus to the damage.

Composite+2 means you need 14 Strength to wield it, but it does +2 damage per shot.

As a player, not GM, what books should I attempt to get?

>>54137734
None. Everything you might ever need is on the SRD.

>>54137759

OK then...which ones are obligatory to read?

>>54137734
Core book, Advanced Player's Guide, Advanced Class Guide, Advanced Race Guide, Pathfinder Unchained. Contains most everything you need to cause your GM to break down in tears.

>>54137837
The sections that relate to whateverthefuck it is your character will be doing.

Know your class abilities, know your trained skills, etc. If you're gonna attack, know the rules for it. If you're gonna cast, know the rules for it. You get the point.

>>54137837
You should also check out the PathfinderWiki and just... Start reading, seriously just find a page and start tabbing up anything with a blue name. The setting is vast and knowing it will make your characters so much better. My advice for a beginner is to start with the Inner Sea and work from there.

>>54137837
Only the SRD

>>54136711
Haven't had to dress up weirdly at all. My DM is an adult with a sense of humor above "wow, how random is that!" So doesn't give me neon colored slippers or tie useful enchantments to otherwise stupid items.

>>54136711
His army looked permanently shite (dirty and rusty despite being a +3 Defiant noqual full-plate), his shield had a bronze sheen, one of his swords was pink, he wore half a skull for a mask, his pauldrons looked like fists, his cloack was feathered, he wore green goggles and had high-heeled rider's boots in addition to having naturally formed wings, looking two categories older than he is and the permanent odor of gutted fish permeating through all of his clothing. If he didn't have a spare hat of disguise he'd look like a circus freak most of his time outside of his home.

Creating a gauntlet-type challenge for my group, still in the preliminary stages but need to know if my first encounter is missing anything at least thematically.

10 cr 23 ecorches (16 base + broken soul + dune sage + jotunblooded sand giant templates) 3-4 great wyrm ravener red dragons and the fire scorpion kaiju in a massive dessert during a huge sandstorm.

This will be for a party of competent level 20s, I will be adjusting HP and AC upwards as appropriate because high level PF Hp is a joke

>>54138405
>3 great wyrm dragons
Unless you play them like retards, that alone should wipe a 20th level party trivially.

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What is the most pointless magus arcana, and why is it Broad Study?

>>54138481
The best part is that if your other class used to be able to cast arcane spells while ignoring ASF for certain types of armor, you can't do it after picking Broad Study.

>>54138447
I'm full aware of how to play red dragons, but their spell selection is less than optimal and this is a full level 20 party that has full WBL and will most likely have a knowledge bot with +50 or more to every knowledge.

I fail to see how the wyrm's spells will get past the variety of common immunities PCs have from magic items

>>54138545
What about an antimagic field, then grappling?

>>54138481
>What is the most pointless magus arcana, and why is it Broad Study?
>The most pointless magic arcana
>not being shit like Pool Strike or Ranger's Trap

At least Broad Study can pretend it can do something, however poorly, rather than being aggressively wasteful garbage. Shit like Ranger's Trap, Arcane Edge, and Errata'd Arcane Deed are just straight up worthless.

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>>54138481
>radical looking guy with a flaming sword
>no good flame spells for magi to use with spellstrike
>fire is also the worst energy type to specialize into

it's not fair

>>54138564
Doesn't have grab on its nat attacks, doesn't have improved grapple, you take a penalty on CMB rolls equal to the damage you take from an AoO provoked by attempting a maneuver. It's a huge risk, turns off a lot of its power from spells, also they're Raveners, so AMF turns off almost all their abilties

>>54138545
Ignore true dragons and acquire linnorms. They are deadlier in almost every way and if nothing else works give them all a template that bumps up their curse DCs so that they aren't "Fail on a 1" rolls.

>>54138646
Wouldn't a Kinetic Knight Kineticist be better for that?

>>54138663

I keep hearing about that one. Is it any good?

>>54138662
Kind of needed to give the fight caster-support, the fire scorpion kaiju and ecorches are all (mostly) big-fat beatsticks

>>54138663
>wouldn't x be better for that then the class that should be perfectly capable of it?

way to twist the knife

>>54138746
Hello and welcome to Pathfinder.
Here's your complementary class that is outshined in its own specialty by another class.

Will you be having the caster supremacy salad today, or will you be dining martial?

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So! How was your weekend, /pfg/? Do anything fun or exciting, game-related or otherwise?

>>54138646
Sphere Magus can do it good.

Yes yes I know, le sphere magus, but overall, sphere magus is still an upgrade for Magi.

>>54138781
God fucking awful.

Told a group of six players "Hey, since the current GM is stepping out for the summer, I'll be running starting friday". Got vague replies.

Showed up to the campus game club at 5, waited until 7. Nobody showed up.

>>54138481
Broad Study is great for one purpose: Gestalt.

>>54138739
Asurendra asura then. At will greater dispell, once a day summon monster 9 demand, three times a day blasphemy, quickened baleful polymorph and other goodies.

>>54138781
Shitty as always.

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>>54138811

Have you spoken to them about it since then?

What blunt weapons would you recommend as secondary or even tertiary weapon?

>>54137417
Have a romantic legion exploring the tomb looking for the mcguffin your party needs. Focus the legion on shield walls+bullrush+archery. Throw some living statues/constructs at them and watch them flail at DR for a bit.

>>54138781
I don't know.
Games went pretty well, but I don't know what's going to happen from here on out. I'm worried.

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>>54138842

I'm sorry to hear that. Would you like to discuss it, or would you prefer not to?

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>>54138781
Finally made a character for a 5e game. Also, been dowloading PF pdfs like crazy.
You'd be surprised how many free pdfs you can find just under a cursory google search

>>54138856
Your fists

>>54138781
We spent an entire session on a single combat encounter of assault a giant encampment with our airship, murdering most of them and then flying on an adult golden dragon crewmate and lover of my character, who is oblivious to this, to hang off a linnorm's tail while making several new nostrils in it's face with an angelic pistol. And it was great.

Shame I will never pull off crazy stuff like that outside of "one-shot" modules.

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>>54138781
Reached out to a new player after leaving the want-ad up for a year.

He'll be playing a Rogue/Wizard gestalt. I'm trying to talk him into playing a Hidden Blade.

I don't know what the other player wants.

>>54138818
Seems neat, but still too limited. Players already know about ways to protect the soul directly, and since PoW is on the table, the martials have at least 1 chimera soul maneuver, which gives you the shapechanger subtype and removes the threat of baleful

>>54138781

I spent the whole weekend playing Warhammer Total War in an attempt to break my writer's block when it comes to writing the backstory of my character.

>>54138855
I've just given up on the idea. I spent hours prepping for session zero, then my morale got annihilated. They can go find their own GMs, I'll find another group for the summer.

>>54138881
We also have the trove up in the OP.

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>>54137248
You'll just have to settle for orc cock as usual.

>>54138881
You can find pretty much every 1st party 3.5 book with a google search.

>>54138919
Megaz tends to work really slow on my computer, and has a tendency of crashing as well

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>>54138873

What has you feeling concerned?

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>>54138881

What sort of character will you be playing?

>>54138997
Not my place to say, mostly just drama between friends. I'm hoping it's just a temporary thing we can work out, but I know better than to be optimistic.

>>54138951
Already got a lot of 3.5 books, so I'm good there. I have an old folder of old pdfs that someone gave to me.
Said person was also the guy who turned me away from 4E, and indoctrinated me to 3.5, and by extension PF
Screw you Cory, you creepy Satanist NEET

>>54139018
Insane Paladin, who kills things with a shovel, and is obsessed with the duality between life and death. He absolutely loves getting his rocks off to killing the undead

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>>54138905

What manner of circumstances led you all to such a pitched encounter?

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>>54138910

Always nice to meet new players. Did you have anything in mind for the game itself?

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>>54138914

Did it bring you any inspiration?

>>54139072
The captain's existential crisis about the correlation between the size of one's sword and the size of that person's treasure trove and the ship's aasimar disliking demon worshiping giants who took up a contract to retrieve something very old from a slightly less old place filled with nasties. The ship's "cook" (read: melon head goblin that has interesting ideas about the creation of the universe) also added too much black powder to the cannons, so they boomed too late and woke up the linnorm, prompting the brave captain to defy rules as written and taking ten every turn in his acrobatics to stay attached to the giant snake.

As for the unique crew that include an ifrit, an alufiend, an azata, the aforementioned golden dragon and an ancient Azlanti wizard: They are a whole 'nother module.

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I wanna play in the theoretical Fantasy Guild/Shadowrun setting we talked about a few days ago!

Who else wants to play in the world of warring magical merchant guilds and monopolies?

>>54139200

What was the gist of that one?

>>54138792
Just remember to drop the class after 2nd level.

>>54139240
You don't HAVE TO, man.

Just like how Incanter has more levels than 1st

>>54139265
>tfw kind of want to try a retarded incanter 1, sphere magus 2, combat hedgewitch 17 build
>tfw I know I'd catch shit for doing it here.

>>54139209
I beleive he's talking about what we talked about here http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/54073781/#54076539

>>54139265
You don't have to not shoot yourself in the foot either.

It's just not a good idea.

>>54139265
Why stay? You have all it's class features, most arcana suck or don't work with spheres, and other classes will give you something for your levels.

Of course, if mystic strike were better, than sphere magus would be completely redundant.

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>>54139111
Have you heard of the "Barley Farming Simulator?"

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Can an outwardly racist bigot ever be redeemed?

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>>54139369
Yes. Especially considering it was a plot point for one of the character missions in Neverwinter 2

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>>54139360

I have. Exciting stuff.

>>54139369

Sure, if they genuinely want to change.

>>54139369
No, once a racist always a racist. You need to kill them all, Peter.

>>54139360
I haven't, what's this about?

Want to send my party to the shackles for fun and profit. There's a paladin, and a super moral cleric included, so they couldn't BE pirates. What other kinds of fun could I set up for the group as a whole? Treasure hunts are an obvious one.

>>54139492
They could hunt down pirates and murder them.

>>54139506
Pirate hunting would work

>>54139529
And then they get loot, raunchy pirate booty and more ships!

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>>54139492
Hunting sea monsters. Paladin could become a Captain Ahab, cleric helps with the demons and wounds.
Then you could sell the monster parts back at port for fun and profit

What are the WotR deets? App quality seems low this time.

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>>54139487
>Forgotten Realms, not!Delian League, 1368 DR
>Roll of Years without Spellplague
>Twelth Seros War, Return of the Archwizards, Year of Rogue Dragons, Year of Risen Elfkin, Twilight War
>Chance for PCs to become merchant lords or senators by owning land and farming barley
>Chance for waifus like Harvest Moon
>25 PB, PoW, DSP Psionics, ignoring most ACG errata

>>54139492
The blood queen, a giant maggot who brain washes people by shitting them out. I might remember that last part incorrectly.

>>54139559
Tuvarkz killed all interest by going full autism, which is incredible because the campaign is a popular one and the CharGen is quite moldable.

>>54139589
How many joke apps?

Why does everyone go healslut when they could take it to the next level and go MILF Healer?

>>54139559
Game quality is low, too! Fitting!

>>54139559
They can't be all bad, Cyrielle is CUTE! Bethany is CUTE!

When wielding a reach weapon, one can threathen 5ft with unarmed, cestus or bite natural attack.

Since a cestus works, would I be able to remove one hand from the 2h reach weapon and use the claw there for Lesser Beast Totem and use that to threaten 5ft?

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If I am going for an innocent looking cleric that isnt gibed too badly, this would work right?

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/cleric/archetypes/paizo-cleric-archetypes/blossoming-light-cleric-archetype/

>>54139685
Don't forget Ruhiel. Cute half-giant with huge bosom and slinky undergarments!

>>54139735
Yes.

But since you don't have two hands on the reach weapon anymore, you don't threaten with it anymore.

>>54139745
You could also be a cloistered cleric and be your classic medieval friar or maybe a nun

>>54139369
Are they a fine upstanding bigot?

>>54139778
Is there anything that prevents me from growing the claws on my feet and kicking to threaten?

>>54136711
My Sorcerer wears the mask of a demon cult for the ability to transform into vermin and ignore swarms. Surprisingly everyone has been ok with it

>>54139745
With that one you are likely going to be targeted first and die easy unless you play much like a wizard instead of like a cleric, but surprisingly it works very well as a monk multiclass if you have high wisdom and alright dex.

>>54139812
Claws don't go on feet unless you don't have hands.

Talons go on feet.

>>54139812
If you can find a way to get talons, it should be fine.

>>54139585
>>54139549
>>54139506
Pirate/Treasure/Monster hunting, and the Blood Queen. Seems good. I'll fluff it out with more from the book

>>54139834

That is what I was worried about. Stick with a bow and hang way in the back. Sling spells. The extra channeling might not be worth the risk. The focus on channeling is the whole reason and if you cannot hit things with it then what is the point?

>>54139797

I might do that. Thanks for the suggestion anon.

>>54139369
It really depends. Most people don't naturally see the personal biases they hold as being racist. On one end, a person who merely operates under stereotypes without ever vocalizing or even recognizing what he's thinking might very easily be "redeemed". However confronting someone who is outwardly bigoted out of a conscious feeling of indifference or superiority would be far harder to change. Not only would that person have to confront the personal biases they hold and acknowledge that they are incorrect, by doing so they'd also be forced to reflect on their own past actions.

>>54137248
This. Every /pfg/ game is fucking garbage because NONE of them have elven hunks ready and willing to defile my every orifice.

>>54138781
I pleasured myself furiously to the thought of other characters in my games copulating with my character.

So, the same thing I do every weekend.

>>54139559
The DM quality is also low too so it's a match made in heaven. Tuvark drove people away with his bullshit.

>>54140094
As I said before, I can make an elf hunk if the campaign is right for it.

>>54139812
Get a bite or a gore attack.

>>54140149
Surely at least one campaign has been conducive to elven hunks.


Ensoulment, there you go. Ensoulment had ample room for a muscular, handsome elf.

>>54139735
Just get spiked armor. You're massively overthinking this.

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>>54140002
What if they did and said hurtful and harmful things in their past and not just held bigoted biases? Can they still be theoretically redeemed?

>>54139369
Does the racism really need to be redeemed?

>>54140371
Racism? Yes.

Race Realism? No.

I can already tell this thread is going to go nice places.

>>54140366
If they are remorseful and apologize to the people he was racist towards, not as a whole but individuals he has directly racisted towards. Then he needs to baptize himself, find a red haired inventor woman, raise a city to the sky and steal his own baby from himself, go back to his racist ways and take them to the extreme and usher in an era where he will rain fire upon the rest of the world and-Wait, have I seen this plot somewhere? Why is my nose bleeding?

>>54140366
We all hold biases. It's human nature to categorize things. Hell, I'm colorblind (in the biological sense, not in the "I don't see race" sense) and even I have no choice but to hold some biases when I approach something. If they've said hurtful and harmful things that they didn't really mean, things that consciously they look at and say what the f**k, they can probably be redeemed pretty easily. The amount of difficulty would again depend on the severity of the actions and the will of the individual (as well as the emphasis your players put on the severity of that action to a degree. Everyone has a different sense of what is morally acceptable.).

>>54140366
I mean, it's not really "redemption," I think. The character grows as a person, and aims to do better. That's that. It has no greater effect. Their past actions are still part of them, it's not magically made better. To the people they hurt, they'll likely always be considered an asshole.

It's not about being "washed of your sins" or whatever. It's about trying to be less shitty in the future.

>>54140449
It depends. If by redemption he means grow as a person, simply acknowledging and fixing the outward biases they portray would be enough. But if it's redemption in the more traditional hero's journey sense, the individual has to bring back with him something more than a personal understanding.

>>54139767
>>54139685
>Ladyknights are cute
>Male Knights are trash

>>54140670
You have that completely backwards.

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A player of mine wants to play a Mighty Godling. After looking up Godlings it seems that even though the spellcasters are bullshit the Mighty and Clever Godlings seem decently tier 3. Anyone have any experience with Mighty Godlings? I'd like a second opinion before I finalize my decision.

>>54140694
Explain, all the male characters are kinda crap while all the lady Knights are cute.

>>54140782
It's a giant cluster of option abilities, so it's more work properly assess than I'm willing to put in right now.

That said, ask him to show you a complete character, with an example of what it'd be in a few levels. Judge based off that.

>>54140891
The fact that the best thing you can say about the ladyknights is that they're cute is kind of telling, anon.

>tfw didnt make a ladyknight so now I wont get in

oh well

>>54140782
I will say that the fact each next rank of their powers costs as much as the rank, they're going to end up slightly more specialized than it appears.

>>54140782
I have some experience with the goidling classes.

Mighty and Clever are decent, but the two spellcasting ones? Nope right the fuck out. As long as you stick to the martials, you should be good, however.

>>54141035
This right here. I've seen people (probably just Sappy samefagging) saying that Tuv has shit taste for putting Cyrielle in tier 3, but all they'll say in defense of the character is that she's cute. Tell me why she belongs anywhere but tier 3 without resorting to "cute" and I'll give her a second look.

>tfw I'm literally the only entirely non-spellcaster in tier 2 for WotR
I'm not even sure whether this means I'm likely to get in or very unlikely to get in. :U

>>54141263
>Tell me why she belongs anywhere but tier 3 without resorting to "cute" and I'll give her a second look.
She's a well written character and is one of the few that actually has a purpose that extends beyond the end of the game. That alone is more interesting and a better reason to be part of the crusade than the parade of "I'm here because hate demons" characters. I'd ask you in return, why does she belong in tier 3, because as far as I can tell the only reason she's there is because she dares to be a girl without massive tits.

>>54140782
At first glance, unless there's way to get more trait points, people won't be coming in with the more useful ones like trophy hunter IV until 10.

Also They can get all their saves based on str, int or cha.
Some other good stuff you can do, and I didn't look at archetypes, but with the rules minutia and the abundance of stuff the players are liable to 'accidentally' forget about certain limitations of powers.

>>54141541

You're applying your own subjective measures of quality to your own app, and asking why other people don't see eye to eye.

App writing quality has nothing to do with getting into games because I've seen many horrendous apps get accepted. Goals beyond the end of the game are likewise meaningless, your character will change a lot and experience a lot over the course of 20 levels and 10 mythic tiers, I doubt anyone could come out the end of WotR and just shrug their shoulders and go home. I would even posit that a predetermined long term goal is worse than allowing such a thing to develop naturally as part of the emergent story telling that is the entire point of PnP.

>>54141686
>You're applying your own subjective measures of quality to your own app, and asking why other people don't see eye to eye.
It's not my app, anon. And you asked for the reasons I thought she deserved to be ranked higher without invoking cute, so I gave them. Writing quality is a big one for me since these people are going to be posting about their game for months down the line and I'd much rather see that from well written, interesting characters than from ones that got in because LOL TITS.

Everything about nodachi is garbage

>>54142219
You got a better statblock for it?

>>54142269
GLAD YOU ASKED, YOU SEE, KATANAS ARE UNDERPOWERED IN PATHFINDER

Anybody working on a character that uses any of the weapons or armor from AA2, or has that been relegated to the trash bin?

>>54142269
Replace Brace with Deadly, move it to exotic, let it rot with the other weeb swords.

>>54142449
I'm taking part in a game as an erutaki character; the fact that the Erutaki Coat came out and is perfect for my character in a lot of ways is serious gravy.

>>54142449
colossal butcher axe swinger for that 12d6 bruh.

>>54142564
Nice! Hope you have a good time, anon.

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Is the game with 2hu the only /pfg/ game that had the balls to switch from Pathfinder?

>>54142580
Colossal? Enlarged Half-Giant Primal Warrior Stance, or some other method?

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>>54142301
You have that wrong.

Martials are underpowered in Pathfinder.

If you gave that katana to a Wizard, Cleric, or Magus, there wouldn't be any problem.

>>54142618
nah, that's pretty much it. Just that I am enlarged from juggernaut pauldrons

>>54142670
That's powerful large. I can get behind that kinda thing. When's the game? What are the chargen rules?

God, I just want WotR to end so we can obsess over Linnorm Kings.

Tuvarkz told us who's getting in anyway, so he denied us even that fun.

>>54142801
its not even fun, all the characters are shit because Tuvarkz encouraged shit characters only

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>tfw no game

>>54142881
NOW we're getting back to RotJR days

I'd run a game but honestly I'm not mentally equipped and would just bamboozle

>>54142881
Why not make another game? People seem to want something other than WotR to obsess about, and not obsessing doesn't seem to be an option, so I'm sure it'd be a hit as long as it actually gets off the ground.

>>54142927
Cause I want to play not GM.

>>54142958
Ah, then into the Suffering Pit you go.

How do you write down something without paper or ink?

>>54143033
Dagger, blood, and any convenient surface.

>>54143033
Scratch it in wax. Write it in magic. Scratch it in hide. What do you have available?

>>54143049
>>54143057

Well, we have a prisoner and some bodies on the floor. Other than the wizard's book, I don't think any of the characters have paper or ink to spare. One of them did, but the char died sessions ago.

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>Vult wants to turn PLD into a novel

How do you think it'll look?

>>54143117
like you fucking off and not trying to stir shit

>>54142706
Its for the upcoming DAA bamboozle, apparent chargen ends tomorrow(unless extended again). You can buddy up with me if you want. Last guy seems to be busy choking himself to death trying to figure out optimal mighty godling builds now.

linky: https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/75856/dimensional-ark-abyssia

>>54143102
What languages are known and what characters do they use? If you have some kind of runic language or one using characters, you may be able to carve the "words" into a bit of flesh more easily than writing in a language with letters. If the wizard has Arcane Mark, you may be able to write something in magic on a surface. A carefully applied corrosive might be able to melt the walls into a wall.

>>54143117
If he cuts all the rape and lewd shit, it could be good. PLD actually has a strong setting when it's not focusing on dog-fucking and guro.

>>54138781
My game officially died
I'm taking the good players to another game
Just as planned

>>54143117
>Having to work with Vult
I wouldn't wish that on any publisher, or editor, or anyone except his attention whore players.

>>54143152
Nah, I'm good. I like to hear about what people are making and such, but I'm not in a good spot to actually join in any of these games. I hope you have a great time!

>>54143176

It's a Duergar text, probably Undercommon. It's definitely not Dwarven, as we have a dwarf in the party and he did not understand it.

>>54143117
I think Vult should just stop and instead find some autists to milk and make his own CoC-clone to fap off to

Do you ever have trouble talking to your GM?

Half the time whenever I ask a stupid question, they're giving me am essay of an answer.
The other half, they just seem dismissive, even if they themselves were encouraging the kind of side shenanigans I try and suggest. And neither case really inspires much confidence, so I end up feeling like I can't approach anyone.

How much is considered "high intelligence" to speak extra languages?

>>54143265
One bonus language per point of Intelligence modifier. It should say so right in the SRD.

>>54143265
A +1 modifier.

For each +1 you get an additional language.

>>54143275
>>54143276

Which ones of the following are the most useful?

Abyssal, Draconic, Dwarven, Elven, Gnome, Goblin, Halfling, Infernal, and Orc.

>>54143403
Elven, Dwarven, Draconic would be my picks

>>54143403
Ask your GM.
If you're summoning anything, pick a planar language.

>tfw linnorm game is a bamboozle

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>>54138781
All my normal weekend plans got cancelled last weekend, but I played a lot of Persona 5.

>>54142881
>tfw you found a game and it's awesome but now your housemate is adopting a baby and maybe that's going to fuck everything up

>>54143152
Holy shit, how long has that game been recruiting? Didn't it start shortly after Blingmaker finished?

>>54143265
Like >>54143275 and >>54143276, but you should also know that applies retroactively. If your character starts with 16 INT, they start with three extra languages (because they have a +3 mod). If they put on a Headband of Vast Int +4, they gain two languages (which are tied to the headband at creation, you can't change the languages by taking it off any putting it back on) because your INT mod when up by 2. If you gain an extra point in your INT from leveling up and it causes you to gain a mod, you gain a language.

Now, I don't know if INT drain cuts you off from languages in a similar way. I don't think it says anywhere that it should, but it might be implied from the whole thing about losing things you qualify for when you stop qualifying. It's not really quite the same situation though.

>>54143403
Depends on the context and the campaign, but generally you probably want to pick up the racial languages of core races, followed by "planar languages" and draconic, followed by other stuff like Sylvan or Goblin, followed by WEIRD other stuff... like Mi-Go or Sphinx.

>>54143436
>Depends on the context and the campaign, but generally you probably want to pick up the racial languages of core races, followed by "planar languages" and draconic, followed by other stuff like Sylvan or Goblin, followed by WEIRD other stuff... like Mi-Go or Sphinx.

Between Infernal and Abyssal, which one should I pick?

>>54143257
I feel like my GM is taking the piss. Like everything in my current game is just a big joke and the punchline is always going to be "you just a dumb cuck"

>>54143221
And I enjoy the discovery part of scouring rules for combos. Here's one for you War soul soulknife who gets to level four and takes the blade skill that lets you form a mindblade as a copy of any of your discipline weapons. Knowing fools errand allows you to choose all weapons which includes advanced or tech firearms. Gestalt or multiclass with gunsmoke mystic for rapid reload with all guns and the ability to reload without free hands. Now you are two feats, prodigious twf and stupendous strength, away from wielding any two handed firearm as a light 1 hander. So double shotguns, double thark rifles, whatever. Going some levels in fighter would help out the feat count

>>54143257
Honestly, I'd rather have the latter of those than the former. That's kind of like saying I'd rather get shot than stabbed, but someone who jokes about my decisions is probably not doing it out of malice, even if they end up making me uncomfortable.

It's the GMs who act overly formal that worry me, since I never know if I'm living up to their standards when I answer them in a casual way.

>>54143117
How did you find out he wants to do that?

>>54143482
It's a complete toss up unless you expect to be dealing with devils or demons. If you're summoning one of them, or if expect one to be a common enemy in the campaign, pick that. Otherwise... It probably doesn't matter.

It's worth noting that a lot of outsiders speak Infernal, Abyssal, AND Celestial regardless of what they are. Mostly the strongest ones, but still.

Is the adventure's armory 2 online anywhere? its out right?

>>54143117
Do you literally need attention more badly than I do? Why do you need to drag idle discord chat into the thread? What does it benefit you?

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?529186-Total-Party-Kill-Games-Presents-Codex-of-Blood-Martial-Study-Expanded-(playtest)

So... Who is this retard and who's TPK?

>>54143591
Someone that doesn't matter

>>54143555
It's in the trove

>>54143644
oh shit I looked earlier and didn't see it, then I just looked and now I feel foolish.

>>54143495
I'm not finding Stupendous Strength. Is it a recent addition? That sounds pretty hilarious, honestly.

>>54138781
Ran the second session of Strange Aeons for my group and my PCs have managed to fuck things up royally.
>Party has no one capable of magical healing.
>Managed to piss off every survivor so the cleric NPC healing them is out of the question and they aren't very welcome in the enclave.
>2/4 have contracted diseases (Filth Fever and Leprosy)
>2/4 have failed every will save while sleeping outside of the survivor enclave so they've been unable to get any natural healing from sleeping.
>Aside from two scrolls, they've used up every source of healing I've given them. Even threw in extra potions and they're all gone. None of them have a high enough UMD to use a scroll of Cure Light.
>Left the door to the asylum open, letting the mist crawl in and subsequently a Hungry Flesh crawl in after a minute of in-game time.
>Despite giving hint after hint that bludgeoning damage seems to work the best on it, and that them hitting it with piercing and slashing weapons for 1-10 damage is making it grow faster, they continue poking it with daggers and swords.
>At this point it's two growth points away from Gargantuan.
>They've pretty much abandoned the monk (who's unconscious) to the Hungry Flesh and plan to just run the fuck away. Down a hallway. Which they know is a dead end.

Looking for suggestions on a different AP to run as I don't think they're going to survive the next session. 3pp would be preferred but I'm having a hard time finding anything that strikes my fancy.

>>54143667
It happens. No worries.

>>54143591
A third party publishing company.

Can they do that though is the question? Making content for a subsystem they didn't create and selling it?

>>54143591
>look over the Codex of Blood shit

>their antipaladin archetype is a literal copypasta of the Knight Disciple

>And it's strikingly similar to the Archetype that I wrote up a while back

Okay... we're already off to a good start. And by good start I mean it's trash

>>54143693
Why not, DSP didn't create initiating either.

>>54143669
Nah, it is from the 'Monster classes: savage races I' book by the DSP guys. It is in the trove.

>>54143684
The only 3PP AP I even know of is Way of the Wicked, an evil campaign where all the PCs are rightfully-imprisoned evil-doers looking to get back at the Lawful Good society that imprisoned them after they are broken out of jail before execution by a mysterious patron.

>>54143731
Well Path of War was a remake of initiation as opposed to an add-on to the tome of battle.

>>54143748
So?

>>54143743
I saw WotW rec'd on a few forums, however every rec said that once it got down to the Dungeon Keeper part of the AP it just slowed down to a crawl. Knowing that two of my players will spend all week before we play working out a dungeon, I don't think that'd be a good thing. I was looking at Zeitgeist but it's not clicking with me.

Should I pick LE Infernal Tiefling lured by his own lawful nature or LE Abyssal Tiefling fighting against his chaotic nature?

>>54143684
>>54143743
You have
>Way of the Wicked
>Throne of Night(Unfinished underdark kingmaker thing)
>Third Dawn: From the Deep from DSP. A Psionic focused adventure from before DSP decided they didn't like Psionics.
>Various 3.5 AP's that would be dead simple to convert
>Zeitgeist

>>54143756
I mean they're different situations entirely. So saying "DSP didn't even initiation" isn't helpful.

>>54143178
Was it ever focused on dog-fucking?

Guro I won't contest; that's obvious.

>>54143787
CN or CG Infernal Tiefling acting against his Lawful nature.

>>54143813
Really aren't

>>54143775
I wouldn't know. I played a WotW campaign as a female cleric of Asmodeus, but the campaign fell apart a short way in. A shame, since I got a drawfag to make a little sketch of my PC.

>>54143840
They really are.

>>54143818
Are you kidding?
The motherfuckers won't shut up about how Gloriana fucked a dog and is having its puppies.

>>54143877
I didn't see that in the greentexts. Who's talking about it? Where?
You gotta have proof for shit, Anon.

>>54143862
>Steal content, publish it and sell it
>Someone else publishes an add-on to it

Bitching bout them stealing your shit is like being china after making 230592 rip offs

>>54143890
Gloriananon posted logs where her character, a well-figured yet hopelessly stupid blonde Paladin, got mounted by a noblewoman's favorite dog and filled with his seed.

>>54143794
Forgot 3.5 APs were even an option. I just want to step away from Paizo stuff as I know one in our group has read most of the APs or talked about them from our old GM. And they all seem to follow the same generic storytelling formula that's getting old as shit to me.

>>54143693
Depends on what parts of the original are covered under the OGL and what's product identity.

i fucking hate PLD talk can we not

>>54143787

Daemonic Tiefling pretending to be Infernal or Abyssal.

>>54143908
>motherfuckers won't shut up about...

Okay, so somebody posted logs. How many times? How was each post advertised?

>>54143908
Has it occurred to you that you're the one who keeps bringing it up? The only greentexts that have come out of PLD recently have been about dragon hunting.

>>54143930
SHUT THE FUCK UP OH MY GOD

https://pastebin.com/zUGVAmbf

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>>54143955
here we go again...

>>54143955
I really like Aurora. Every time I see this, I want to know more about her. Is that normal?

>>54143930
It got posted once.

The thread had a conniption.

>>54143955
You could say Aurora really screwed the pooch with that one!

>>54144017
booooooo

>>54143775
> the Dungeon Keeper part of the AP
What were they smoking when they made this section?
>lets give the player a base that they're expected to invest a ton of resources into
>and NPC's they can recruit
>but
>at the end every NPC they didn't fucking murdohobo stabs them in the dick
>even the ones that have no reason to at all beyond "lel lawful evil so conniving XDDD"
>and they teleport into the dungeon even if they have no way of knowing how to
>and one of the bosses is an important character in a later part, so if PC's do well and kill him and just have him come back for no fucking reason.

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What is the most desirable aspect of a story/plot/arc in a campaign?

>>54143973
>Is that normal?
Definitely not.

>>54144023
Oh and the base you spend over a year caring for and investing in crumbles to dust after the chapter is finished to put the cherry on the shit sundae.

>>54144041
The magical realm involved obviously.

>>54143973
Honestly the character comes off as adorable in the logs, even if the logs-dropper is a piece of shit.

I hope all of dragons2 is cute

>>54144041
The characterization. Character interactions is what makes for interesting stories.

For instance, you know what FF14 did to make a villain relatable? they made a character that was utterly unlikable. they made him now care about the lands he'd conquered; all he cared about was the next fight, and how fun it would be, no matter the fact that he always won.

And the players of the game love it, because he's an exact foil of their mentalities in the game; a hardcore MMO player plays because the combat is fun, finding challenging fights and figuring out how to beat them, with the story just being a vehicle for such combat and ideas. I'd almost say it was completely genius.

>>54144098
>now care
Not care*

>>54143726
He stole your work?

>>54144127
I posted the Black Iron Knight Antipaladin archetype to the thread roughly... four or five-ish months ago? Admittedly, it's a straight conversion of Knight Disciple, as this antipaladin archetype APPEARS to be, but there's a number of other similarities.

I'm not mad about it at all- this stuff will never see use in a game, and TPK games and Thealtruisticork is a Ssalarn-tier shitcock. This playtest is shoddily put-together and the Copypasta signs are extremely obvious. And balance is just straight up gone from it. One example?

Their magus archetype trades out cantrips for stances... and that's it. Not even Reduced Spellcasting like the Polymath or Warpath Follower.

It also has this as a Magus Arcana

>"-Martial Spellstrike: By expending two points from his arcane pool when using the spellstrike class feature (or some equivalent class feature), the sublime warmage may perform a martial strike in place of a normal attack roll when using spellstrike. The strike must take a standard action, and the spell is only applied to the first attack made with the maneuver."

>>54143913
I've heard Age of Worms is good.

>>54144179
Welp. That's some straight stupidity

Which Demon/Daemon/Devil variants are more likely to end up producing tiefling descendents?
Which would never do so or are the less likely?

>>54137436
> Instantly recognizing Hailly Annes(Forgot how it was spelled) artwork by her style. This image is almost 8 years old.
> Even recognizing the character
> And remembering it because of all the porn about that character.
I swear to fucking god. I can't enjoy this board because I've seen entirely too much porn of elves. If someone were to post cropped porn of literally anything with pointy ears, I would probably recognize the source.

>>54144406
All are equally unlikely.

Tieflings are seldom direct descendants, but the result of fiendish corruption, not reproduction.

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Using content available on the wiki, and gestalt if necessary, how would you make a cannon wielding character?

>>54144454
The only tieflings that are the common result of reproduction, I'll note, are succubus-spawn. Or the spawn of similar creatures.

I'm the anon from last night who was trying to put a team of level 2s against a wereraptor (bard[archaeologist] 4).

Will giving their alchemist one of these make things too easy if I'm already giving the tank a temporary silver weapon?

>Pellet grenade, silver
>Damage: 1d6/1d6/1d6
>Range: 10 ft.
>Type: B/P/fire
>Reflex 15 half

>>54143591
Oh this stuff again. It's hauntingly bad.

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>>54144444
Is...is that a challenge?

>>54143955
and then DM had to invent an NPC for Rory to fuck because nobody would touch him after he leaked these

>>54144460
Do you want a cannon, as in the specific siege firearm, or just anything cannon-like in nature and function?

>>54144549
so who are the couples then

>>54144549
Is that why he started lusting after Gloriana so hard?

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>>54144549
Hey, that NPC is pretty rad though

>>54144596
Lio/Everyone
Rory/Mune
Aurora/Mei
Calsi/Rinka

But it's a lewd game so those are only rough guidelines

>>54144602
-10 points from Gryffindor for not using "dogged in his pursuit of Gloriana's booty"

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>>54144620
>the autistic rat is fucking jessica rabbit

>>54144670
>Implying Rinka has any actual say in the relationship
>Implying Jessica Rabbit hasn't just been stepping on the rat all day, every day

I mean it /is/ a relationship...

>>54144685
sounds like my kind of relationship

>>54144694
Pls go back to the cabal broodie

>>54144583
Either. Siege firearms seem awful even with siege focused archetypes so do what you must.

>>54144179
But oh boy, the steaming pile of donkey shit that is Arcforge will be available at GenCon this year! Aren't you excited?

>>54144747
please no

not even Rory wants that

>>54144718
3PP ok?

>>54144460
the rules support big guys helping crew and load firearms but not really carry and shoot in timely manner. still takes multiple full round (or move with master siege engineer) to load and aim. You are best off grabbing a culverin, which itself is a baby version of a bombard/cannon, and scaling it up in size. That way you have a weapon that has a weight and is susceptible to rapid reload. Alternatively you can go for tech weapons and grab a rocket launcher.

>>54144685
This is pretty accurate

>>54144620
Oh boy I'm sure this is not a post by Rory

>>54144817
Not even Rory thinks its a post by Rory

>>54144620
Apparently there's a crazy knight joining the PLD party, one who wants to dom Gloriana. The player posted something about that in the past few days.

>>54144747
In what world is that garbage ready to publish

>>54143955
Is this all there is? My morbid curiosity has been piqued.

>>54144759
Go for it, anon.

>>54144786
I'm actually jealous of a fucking pathfinder meme character can someone just kill me i'm too autistic to live

>>54144860
>tfw the dom becomes the dominated
How could anyone defeat such an archlewdster without playing directly into their hands?

>>54144870
Blaster archetype Armorist.
Armorist is from Spheres of Power, Blaster archetype is from The Destroyer's Handbook. Both are in the trove.

Gets you a magical boomstick that you can fluff however you want. The range sucks (Close) and the damage is only 1d6 until 5th level, but it can be used for full iteratives and Rapid Shot with no feat investment.
Not great, per se, but a hell of a lot better than most 1pp firearm users.

>>54144861
Unfortunately it appears to be this one. Truly this is the darkest timeline.

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>>54144882
Sorry anon

>>54145008
like probably gonna kill myself

I wish I'd never started playing or running games.
I wish I'd never applied to any of these.
I'm just a burden on everyone.

>>54145020
PM THEM

>>54144999
I miss our devs

>>54145039
Honestly suicide feels like a better solution if i'm this autistic, i need to not breed

>>54145045
Come on anon, we still have Vult's homebrew! And that one guy that is making that one mesmer class

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>>54145045

>>54145071
But I want Jolly and Forrest back

>>54145089
Sorry, this is all we get

If I'm bein honest
I wish evryone would just tell me they hate me and get it ovrwith
nah fuck it i don't feel like correcting spelling errors

>>54145137
Rory, we love you, even if you're a shitter.

>>54145137
I hate you.

>>54145137
I think you're okay.

>>54145089
Then you should have fought harder against lewdfaggotry.

>>54145199
I feel like the lewdfaggotry was fine, but like we could have probably not made rape jokes. A shocking amount of sex is consensual, you know?

>>54145026

Quit then, no one wants to be your therapist.

>>54145086

Translation: We'd rather publish broken stuff and spend four years writing errata than listen to 2hu

>>54145220
because 2hu doesn't post anywhere else

>>54145208
>I feel like the lewdfaggotry was fine
It's isn't. This is fucking 4chan, rape jokes are nothing new here. Sex is nothing new here. Fuck Njolly was more than happy to exchange somewhat sexual images with the thread. It's when full on games about sex and rape, began to DOMINATE discussion to the exclusion of everything else that it became a problem.

>>54145137
Okay Luca

I hate you

>>54145250
any half of /pfg/ were trying to devise ways to sneak in characters just to cockblock people? i mean both sides of the lewd or no lewd argument are pretty autistic desu

>>54145275
Got the wrong guy
Luca's alright

>>54145220
2hu posts on Giantitp

>>54145278
That only kinda happened with PLD and people not wanting to be raped in a world of rape monsters is a logical progression of thought.

>>54145303
its happened in every game after PLD
even a non-lewd one
i blame the anti-cabal cabal

>>54145299
Whenever I read that fucking name I think it says: "Giant Tit :P "

>>54145361
>its happened in every game after PLD
Do you have any proof or are you just making shit up.

>>54145199
C-can we still be the change we want to see?

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>Vult ran off all the devs and is typefucking ACTUAL CONFIRMED WOMEN DAY IN AND DAY OUT and is now a celebrated homebrewer cranking out content

>he's typefucking most of the cabal in his off-time, too

>he's going to publish a PLD novel

>It's going to be the next Game of Thrones/50 Shades of Gray combo.

>It's going to get a movie and IKiD and Wist are going to move in with him to be his full-time IRL subs when he gets rich

This is the future you chose, /pfg/.

>>54145361
The Reverse Cabal is a shadowy and evil force.

>>54145401
The Reverse Cabal does not exist and whoever told you this lie will soon suffer the full wrath of the Reverse Cabal.

>>54145415
Fuck off, Kawase

>>54145393

I'd still take Vult over Tuvarkz to be honeset.

>>54145420
You have no idea how wrong you are, anon.

>>54145439

Half the people in the cabal are fucking insufferable so it stands to reason there are multiple leakers.

>>54145393
I can't tell if this is an ironic shitpost to bait /pfg/ autists, /pfg/ autists being /pfg/ autists, or IKiD or Vult or Wist trying to keep themselves in the spotlight.

>>54145452
It ain't me.

>>54145458
It ain't me. I ain't no fortunate son.

>>54145452

What's more likely, people actually care about them? Or the renowned attention whores are whoring for attention?

>>54145393
I like the cabal members who fly under the radar and actually run games. Without rape.

>>54145462
>>54145458
SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
MAAAAAAADE TO WAVE THE FLAG
OH THE RED WHITE N' BLUUUUE

So I made a homebrew that is supposed to run with the Pathfinder system. Would anyone like to put in their thoughts?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhmecx0byd1w9dc/Updated%20God%20Rules.docx?dl=0

>>54145463
You'd be surprised how often it's the first of those. PLD is essentially the thread's boogeyman now that DHB and 2hu have ceased to amuse.

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>>54145458
>>54145462
>>54145475
>tfw no "It ain't me" campaign in Golarion

>>54145487
DHB amuses plenty. Good party member, nice guy all-round and his homebrew makes for good fun.

2hu needs to be less emo about running games, but he's basically a delight if you need to ask someone about mechanics.

I have no idea what reality you guys are posting from but I remember Mandela died in 1990 and I bounced on my boy's pineapple for hours after seeing the leaked PLD logs.

>>54145470

Who's that, exactly?

Just Broodie? Because I've spied logs from a number of other cabalist's games, and it's rape as far as the eye can see.

>>54145495
>Molthune Knights
Press F to pay respects

>>54145507
Broodie it is

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God, I want linnorm game to be a thing.

>>54145536
>tfw absolutely no interest in the Land of the Linnorm kings

>>54145550
>tfw we will never get a p/y/rates game

>>54145550
Then don't apply dude.

>>54145507
I have faith in Protag, and am looking forward to some good illustrated greentexts from Ensoulmet.

IKiD is in the game though, as a virtuous, chaste character, but its still IKiD, so we'll see if he too will fall to the rape meta.

>>54145550
>tfw going to seed it with a high-quality app with over 2k word backstory, just to make other people sweat harder and step their game up
>not even going to join

>>54145507
It may be in hiatus right now due to a player being out of town until August, but I can pretty safely assert that my game has no rape and that I am in the cabal, albeit mostly just because I was there before it was password protected.

>>54145560
I have faith in protag to TAKE THIS GAME INTO OVERTIME

>>54145573

How does it feel being the de-facto face of the anticabal thanks to Vult?

>>54145560
>but its still IKiD

Is this a meme virus or something? Like Protag's game has caught a disease and will rot from the inside?

That's fucked up, Holmes.

>>54145569
Jokes on you, nerd. I'm going to one-page this shit and then disregard all comments not from the GM.

>>54145576
HEY DJ

TURN IT UP

>>54145582
QCD GONNA BURN IT UP

>>54145579
Meh, AFAIK I don't get any celebrity out of it (not that I'd want any anyway) so it's not like the title comes with any perks. I just want to have chillax fun and not have to worry about people being weird.

>>54145593
COME ON Y'ALL GET ON THE FLOOR
SO HEY, LET'S GO A'IGHT?