/40kg/ Warhammer 40k General

>>54035303
Is the FW Xenos book with Orks out yet? Does anyone have it?

first xd

Imperium
Chaos
Xenos

Which side did you join?

>>54035339
xenos

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Reminder that Power Levels are not inherently bad and you shouldn't give a shit what system people play with

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>>54035332
What a waste

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>>54035339
Xenos because they are the only faction i find real interest in
Dark Eldar > Orkz > Nids > Necrons > Other Aledari > Tau

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>>54035303
Any tournament organizer wanting to use power levels is a certified fool and an embarrassment to other tournament organizers.

Also rate my Daemons

>>54035332

>Before and after strangling your adopted sister for calling out your victim complex

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>>54035378

Wayland Games site seems to imply the "easy fit" Intercessors are coming in 3's too, maybe meaning that the Reivers aren't in 3's and just being sold that way

Could easily be squads of 5 when they come out properly

>>54035339
Chaos because I don't have to worry about fighting allies. Also, daemons are pretty fun.

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Was hoping to get some feedback on a list. Tournament coming up on the 15th.

I have 6 penitent engines that I could put into the army if I could find a good place for them but I feel like the knight helps out pretty well, and I really like the exorcists but I'm not entirely sure.

>>54035354
They are bad.
But it does not mean I should shit talk them for using them. If they think they are good then I'll shit talk them.

For example I like zombie movies, they are objectively shit. Fun maybe, but shit.
If I say they are the best thing ever, then people are more than entitle to shit talk my obviously wrong opinion

What superglue is best for assembling models?

How do you transport your stuff around?

I just got the Dark Imperium set and the original box is too huge for a backpack.

Luckily I had some graphics card boxes lying around and I managed to fit the sprues in there, plan on going to the store tomorrow to get started on assembly and so on.

What would you recommend for improving on that though? Is a miniature specific case absolutely necessary?

>>54035315
Yes, and Yes.

What unit has the largest Eviscerator? Was going to use one on a Sentinel as a stand in for Powerlifters.

>>54035378
Looks good for a tournament setting, although good luck with any narrative games...

>>54035436
What type of models?

>>54035437
Working on putting all my Tau on magnetized trays

>>54035436
Locktite gel

>>54035437
Back in my youth I just used shoe boxes with toilet paper inside them for protection.
Then proceed to make a wire harness in order to tied up multiple boxes together.

Worked like a charm till the first rain

>>54035470
I use locktite professional but yeah probably Locktite

>>54035437
>Is a miniature specific case absolutely necessary?
Yes. It is. I've seen el cheepo's use fishing boxes with foam in them, although I insist that a miniature specific carrying case is one of the best investments you'll ever make.

As far as what you have and what you need, I think the best thing for you would be the medium 'ard case that the Warhammer store sells, it's good for people who don't want to play tetris, although if you plan on expanding either of these armies it's probably better that you look into battlefoam, they have a P.A.C.K. 720 case that's big enough to fit Dark Imperium plus a few extra units. Although you will have to plan out the foam trays. Then again, maybe Battlefoam has something special for Dark Imperium by now, sometimes they do stuff for box sets.

>>54035436
Loctite super glue brush on.

>>54035385
Wat

>>54035437
I put that shit in a box.

>>54035437

>>54035495 here. Magnetized trays are if you want a top shelf carrying case. You'll have to stick magnets under your miniatures but they will be more secure than any other method. You won't be able to put them in sideways, though. Which may be an issue.

>>54035437
KR multicase makes decent trays. Thats what i use. Then theres the old school chaos guy at the FLGS that shoves everything in ziploc bags and tackleboxes. Use whatever works for you.

>>54035436
Elmer wood glue

>>54035418
nobody is going to read that retarded list format

>>54035378
How is this a legal list?

>>54035453
Imperial knight.

>>54035541
>hurr where is picturebook how into words
Kill yourself illiterate

>>54035437
Richfag or poorfag?

>Richfag ?
There's people that make a business to make carry boxes specifically for lugging around miniatures.They've got several compartments (padded) and fits trays. Many of them also 'open' to serve as a on-the-spot display case. Of course they got security locks too.

>Poorfag?
Get another hobby.

>>54035354

Power levels are terrible m8

>>54035560
>your words hurt me stop you bad bad :(

Nobody cares and nobody will reply to shitty formatted lists.

Before you reply with your inane garbage; How about you prove me wrong instead?

Can't? sucks for you.

>>54035418
ditch hunter killers, and 3 of the 8 seraphim, aquire literally any other special than a stormbolter
>it's like a whole other girl shooting

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>>54035566
>>54035495

What do you think is best from the GW range?

So there's some whacky tourney results going on from a non-ITC event in Boise, where the first place winner ran 4 Stormravens and 3 Stormhawk Interceptors and just alphastriked stuff due to having less minis, while keeping some Assault Marines and a Captain for meeting some "mandatory troops" requirement.

Guess this edition is going to turn into rock-paper-scissors hammer after all.

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>>54035378

Can anyone help me? Im a bit new to the game and dont understand a thing or two

So I saw a battle report, where a dude used the XV104 Riptide battlesuit equiped with 2 fusion blasters and a heavy burst cannon.

So he shot first from the two fusion blasters and then the heavy burst cannon.

What are the proper rules of attacking, when you have equiped a lot of weapons like this dude. Do I have only 1 attack with the unit, with modified number of dices due to "heavy 8" for example, or can I shoot with every possible weapon thats equiped on him?

Thanks for the info

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>>54035560
>Muh army builder elitism
Yea, no. It was the most popular army builder for 40k for a good reason.

>>54035378
what app did you use to make this??

>>54035588
Don't go GW, go 3rd party. Literally anyone else has better value for the price.

Or skip a big case for now and just get some pluck foam off ebay. That's what really does the work.

>>54035418
>sisters of basshole
Nobody plays that "army", good luck getting advice

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Foolish fag hides guns
You don't have to be a chef
Peach was a bad choice

>>54035608
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator

GW took it down 6 days after 8th edition launched, it had existed during most of 7th edition.
There is no good alternative to this builder, GW could do themselves a favor and revive it rather than trying to push an AOS builder like app for 40k, when their AOS one was terribad.
Also a guy pretty much made the same army builder for AOS, and GW ended up endorsing it. Direct link from their community page: https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/

Why doesn't the sisters of basshole guy change it to sisters of butthole? It sounds so much fucking better than basshole like are you saying they're dubstep nuns or something? Gee whiz!

>>54035603
The vast majority of people never mentally advancing beyond kindergarten ?

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>reposting from old thread

What are some good books I should read to get some more fluff for AdMech/CultMech/Skitarii? I really like the faction but only know little about the fluff of 40k and their role in the Imperium.

>>54035385
If she likes it that way, i guess its ok, as long as you are careful.

>>54035594
Theoretically everything* is fired at the same time, but for practical purposes people will often roll the dice for each weapon before moving on to the next. Note that you do have to declare every weapon's target before you roll the dice, so for example he couldn't blow up a transport with the fusion blasters then shoot the unit inside with the heavy burst cannon, and if you get underkill/overkill that's tough luck.

*Specifically, a model can shoot:
>one grenade
>all pistols
>all non-pistols (excluding grenades)

>>54035551
One Battalion, one Supreme Command Detachment?

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>>54035624
>Anon literally showed that he has a bad camera on these shots
>He shows a better set of pictures that his models are red
>I apologized and said he should take new pictures
>1 autist is still trying to trigger a shitstorm

You're not me anon, let it die

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>8th ED lore
>Imotekh is the most accomplished and greatest general the galaxy has ever known

The dude has been sleeping for 60 million years, So over all that time, not a single race produced a commander that could have surpassed him in skill and accomplishments?

Lesser races, justify yourselves.

>>54035665
Mechanicum in the HH series is great

>Play 500 points game
>Take 9 mortal wounds on turn 1

Most playtested edition ever

>>54035654
And none of the JS/HTML knowing fags want to help me to fix it cos its there, you just gotta uncomments few things, but i am too stupid and drunk myself.

>>54035665
The McNeil's Mars series.

>>54035587
What do you recommend then, flamers or what?

>>54035692
>The dude has been sleeping for 60 million years, So over all that time, not a single race produced a commander that could have surpassed him in skill and accomplishments?
I dont think the Necrons have met my Fusion Blaster Commander yet B)

Going to buy my first paints and try painting minis myself next week. I've been playing this game since 5th. Wish me luck, anons; it's time to overcome my coordination problems.

>>54035374
More like:

Orkz > or = Necrons > Eldar (most varieties) > Nids > Tau > Deldar

Crons actually have the backstory of the universe in their pocket/actual endgame. Eldar are all incompetent faggots that will never get their shit together (but can be cool to hear about in a tragic sort of way). Nids are a cool plot point but utterly boring as actual story development. Tau are too insignificant to matter on any scale and persist through sheer force of plot armor , as well as being pretty dull. Deldar are Eldar but without the ironic sense of tragedy, so pointless.

Orkz are also boring plot devices but come out on top by sheer plucky spirit, needed humor, and being Gar as fuck. FUCK POWERLEVELS I'M GONNA PUNCH THAT GREATER DAEMON TO DEATH (proceeds to actually do it).

>>54035667
Wow. I thought that I can declare only one ranged attack with specified weapon, even tho I had a few of them equiped.

So just to be sure...
If my Fire Prism is equipped with a Prism cannon and twin shuriken catapult, I can shoot both of them in the same shooting phase?

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>Be Ork
>Be shit at shooting
>Have assault weapons en masse
>Somewhat mitigated bad shooting vs consistent
>Get updated to 8th
>Weapons still assault weapon
>BS still 5+
>Everyone can move and shoot
>Now hitting on 6+
>Ork shooting

>>54035468
Regular infantry sized dudes. I usually use plastic glue but I've decided to try out super.

>>54035470
>>54035504
I'll look into getting some of this then. Thanks

>>54035718
Yes, even at different targets.

>>54035514
>>54035666

It's from Hammer of Olympia. Perty strangles his sister Calliphone when she realizes he revels in being the victim.

>>54035692
Wait until Gyrliman makes the chair of him for Yvraine to sit on.

>>54035733
Ok, thank you very much for the info.

>>54035692

Vect busy fighting with his girlfriend lady Malys
Duke busy getting laid
Baron busy doing something else
Drazhar doesn't speak
Kherudrakh doesn't speak
Lelith is on drugs
Urien Rakarth busy sewing bodies together

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>>54035713
Wrong. DE saw what they did and said fuck it.
Then they realised they could trade other races sould/suffering for theirs and are once again nearing Pre Fall levels

If anything Tau are the Plot Armour race
Orkz are for fightin' and for mukkin' about
Necrons were better as the things from the beyond, speaking only through proxies
Eldar are only good when they are observed struggling against their base nature vs rationalist

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>>54035659
>Tourney fag deflecting the truth by projecting their own intelligence level
It was the best, the easiest to use and the simplest to setup army roster creator out there.
You could see what an army was at a glance.
It had all the unit's stats in an easy to read format.
It didn't print out like a bunch of autistic dribble.
Accessible on all devices.
Actually helped the community enjoy GW products and games by making the increasingly complicated matched play army creation easier.

And you don't like it because it has pictures?
Go back to your goddamn containment forum.

>>54035705
I'd mix a squad or two of flamers and a squad or two (obviously one if you went for 2 flamers) of metlas. Flamers are really good, and heavy flamers if you have the points, but meltas aren't bad and your anti-tank could do with a buff.

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>>54035730

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>>54035418
You can get a spearhead detachment with one of your hq and exorcists for an extra command point.

Not really what to suggest for that list, but this is what I was planning on running if you want something to compare it to.

>>54035603
>elitism
>not being a knuckle dragging retard
Kek

>>54035692
Isn't he stumped when it comes to Orks?

>>54035754
>are once again nearing Pre Fall level

Do...oh god, do you not know?

>>54035730
>Complaining about Ork shooting being inaccurate

I think you missed the whole point of Orks

>>54035665
>tfw no book about a techpriest spending an entire siege dodging artillery and midnight trench raiders to light sanctioned incense for the Omnissah. At one point he powers down for his mandated 15 minutes of sleep and dreams for the first time of a STC. Emotions he thought long removed plague him as he longs for the STC. But he must light the incense.

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>>54035730
>Assault weapons are bad
>Shooting Orks
>Not using massed shooting

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>>54035782
The Ynnari dysjuntion and the Gate of Khaine?
You think that matters

lol

>>54035418
Drop some Seraphim
Literally any weapon is better than storm bolters in BSS.
Get meltas from the points you will get back by removing the retarded HK on the Immolators.

You already have long range support with Exorcist, you need some close range firepower in either flamer or melta form.

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>>54035709

How have you been playing without models

>>54035770
> Immolators instead of Repressors
why?

>>54035794
I'm... I'm so sorry.

>>54035777
He just cannot win a lasting victory over them since they are illogical and his mind is completely logical with the exception of a single aspect.

The first thing he did when woke up was defeat an Ork Waaagh! Nowadays he outsources the handling of Orks to Nemesor Zahndrekh who for some reason excels at handling Orks.

>>54035811
Comission painting is a hell of a drug.

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>>54035749
>lelith is on drugs
DELET THIS

>>54035823
Probably because Zahndrekh is just as much as a nutter as the Orks

>>54035732
For Hard GW plastic, the testers plastic glue is great. Dry fit before you glue naturally.
Other than that, loctite get works good, but zap gel is better, though harder to get.
Aside from that p3 glue is also something I recommend to use on anything.

>>54035815
>Vect had been around since the fall
>Master of Keikaku
>Didn't have either a backup Commarragh or a bunker
Even in the book Lower Com already got buttfucked by one and literally the next day it carried on
It's just like London

So, did anyone notice how FW flat out forgot to put secutarii in the index?
http://natfka.blogspot.ie/2017/06/secutarii-in-8th-edition-forge-world.html
Forge world is a professional company that charges you out the ass and then gives you a "product"

>>54035814
Out of Production models are hard to come by.
You either need to have them already or make your own.

>>54035765
Well I was planning on rolling with the Canoness' in two of the squads as well.

Suppose I could move it around to where two squads could have 2 flamers (or one flamer one heavy flamer), 1 melta, and a canoness with a combimelta
and then the other last squad gets 2 meltas and a heavy flamer.

Should I drop the seraphim all together? Don't get me wrong I like jump troops but I'm not super sold on the fly girls even though I own 10.

>>54035339
Chaos, alpha legion in particular

>>54035847
Literally just glue a storm bolter to a twin-flamer immolator and call it a repressor with 2 heavy flamers.

>>54035838
He have flying pyramid thing, And can shut parts of the city when he wants.

>>54035845
Proofreading is illegal in bong land.

>>54035845
Their models are OK but all the FW books are just blatant ripoffs.

>>54035794
>>54035754
Commorragh has been destroyed by Slaanesh, most craftworlds have been wiped out but the Ynnari are still going strong.

>>54035850
Seraphims are good for character snipping in small squad with inferno pistols.

With short range you almost guaranteed to have closest target possible.

The hand flamers lost part of their magic without templates and/or shred

>>54035354

I'm actually okay with them. In a friendly, beer and kitchen table game with my friends, it's easy to just grab whatever, not worry about that extra 12 points of some guy, and just make a list. Plus, my one derp-ass friend that can't seem to ever draw up a list beforehand, and has to pore over his codex and options for an hour while everyone else waits, now can hopefully do things faster. "What did you bring? Cool. They got what they got modeled. Shut the fuck up and roll."

For a more structured method, where I'm playing a pick up game at the shop, I'm going Points.

>>54035858
That is making your own.
But some people like to try and not just make "Ork conversion that are basically toy truck cover in glue and thrown into the bit box"

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>>54035845
Oh really, did they? What about Corsair Prince/Baron/Dreamer/Malevolents ??

>>54035874
Ok, so maybe drop them down to 5 just to tote some inferno pistols and harass and use the points on making my units slightly less retarded?

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>>54035872
I thought speedreaders only were found on /a/

>>54035823
Still, was funny back in the day because he couldn't seize initiative when fighting Orks.

>>54035765
I'm not so sure flamers are better than stormbolters anymore, flamers will usually get you 3-4 auto hits while a Stormbolter will always fire 4 shots, of which you can usually expect 3 to hit and it does it from 12" away instead of 8".

Flamers are better in overwatch, unless the charging unit is charging from more that 8" away, which isn't uncommon for deep strikers etc.

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What do you guys recommend for 2k? I was thinking a battalion attachment with scouts snipers and 2 tacs, moving over the lib + something

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Alright heres the list I'm running tonight, hopefully I wont get stomped too hard but I'm open to the idea

Primaris marines

965/1000

Battalion detachment, 6 command points

HQ

Gravis captain with fist and sword: 138

2x Lts: 148


Troops

3x intercessor squads: 300

Heavy support

2x hellblaster squads: 380


965/1000

Lots of rerolls available for the amount of models, lots of long range firepower. 28 models at 1000 points isn't the worst but its not the best.

Will GW ever bring back the missing primarchs like vulkan

>>54035741
Guess I'm gonna have to read that novel. Is there a download in the OP?

Oi ya cheeky fucks, I'm helping a friend into 8th ed, and they've decided on Dark Angels. Is this list at least reasonable for a starter?

HQ
>terminator interrogator-chaplain: storm bolter
Elites
>Venerable Dreadnought: Twin Lascannon
>Deathwing Apothecary
>Deathwing Knights
>Sternguard: 6 marines
>Sternguard: 6 marines
>Deathwing: Plasma Cannon, 2 TH/SS, 2 LC
>Deathwing: Plasma Cannon, 2 TH/SS, 2 LC
>Deathwing: Plasma Cannon, 2 TH/SS, 2 LC
Dedicated Transports
>Razorback: Twin Lascannon
>Razorback: Twin Lascannon
Heavy Support
>Relic Whirlwind Scorpius

Alternatively (probably what I'll do at the start), here's a list using 100 power level: (I know PL sucks but good for newbs)
HQ
>termine interrogator
Elites
>4 deathwing/Knights squads
>2 sternguard squads
>deathwing apothecary
>venerable dread
Transports
>2 razorbacks
Heavy Support
>predator

>>54035730
Sounds like you need more Dakka.

>>54035699
Super unlucky? Or was it the retarded "Grey Knights should be balanced against everyone else but be OP against daemons" bullshit?

>>54035830
Is true tho.

>>54035909
I feel like there will be a ressurection of primarchs now, mortarion and the Lion are coming back, so I feel like Alpharius or Omegon will be a traitor primarch to return followed by Corax or Russ returning due to the rift

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>>54035692
>accomplishments
Since waking up what has any necron actually achieved?

>>54035889
>xenos
SQUATTED

>>54035901
Flamers get 3.5 hits, sb get 2.7 hits on average. But with the amount of stuff that has -1 to hit and with overwatch and being able to adv+fire, then flamers are easily worth it.

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>>54035926
is not

>>54035932
>Alpharius
>Traitor

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>>54035938
Cadia
This Guy

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>>54035919
Does your friend know hes picking a traitor legion ;)

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>>54035741
Sound like something he would do.

Btw, Alpharius book when?

>>54035932
Alpharius is ded. BL is shit and killed him 100% to make dorn not a complete failure.

>>54035444
Are links in the OP?

>>54035954
>And potentially a Vulkan.

>>54035835
Thanks, I'll note those so.

While I'm at it are there any brands of hobby knives that are worth getting over a regular one? I've been using a penknife which is doing the job but somewhat awkwardly and my friend has the citadel one which is pretty good in fairness but I'm not paying that much.

>>54035814
I don't want to buy and paint new tanks, especially out of production ones.

Plus, converting to use obviously superior forgeworld model feels like modelling for advantage. Seriously. It's so much better than any other transport it's just stupid.

Not that I wouldn't buy them if the go back into production

>>54035894
Sure why not. Seraphims are in and odd spot. But small squads with inferno seem to work right now.

>>54035901
Flamers vs SB depend when and who they target to see who is better. In BSS i rather have meltas or flamers, but that is more a personal choice more than anything.

I'm used to get close and personal so I can deal with 8"-12" issue more comfortably.
With SB I have no idea when or where I should use them.

Side note 15 captcha? The fuck? Not even a skip option

>>54035966
BL is just shitty fanfic though. I wouldn't believe them if they said the sky is blue.

>>54035966
>Dorn
>complete failure
He managed for fortify terra sufficiently to hold off Horus from the eternity gate, not even that bitch boy pert could do better

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>>54035730
Dis ain't no Ork, krump 'im.

>>54035966
We know that either Alpharius OR Omegeon is dead. NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS

Writers at least confirmed that one of them is dead

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Haven't played in awhile, can assault marines be shooty now?

Saw these dudes in the new box set and I've always wanted to have jump jet muhrines with shooty guns

>>54035953
Scroidengers primarch until spoken otherwise Alpharius Omegon is both a traitor and loayist, and neither at the same time.

>>54035947
Why other units are there tho? Half-squatted?

>>54035992

Yeah they're essentially bikers with two short ranged heavy bolters each that they can fire without the move and shoot penalty

Only issue is that they're really fucking expensive

All primarches are shit, boring big humans.

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>>54035954
Stop lying tin man

>>54035992
They're jump pack T5 2W Marines with 2 assault-heavy bolters. So yes

Just to make sure I've got this right. Tyranid hive guard are unit size 3, with the option for another 3, when using power level; but are listed 1-3 on the points costs list. Does this mean that, if I want to take 2 of them in a game using points, I only pay for 2? In other words, I don't have to count it as an understrength unit and pay for the points for the 3rd one?

>>54035966
All of alpha legion is Alpharius

>>54035949
3.5 hits on average, but often you'll get one or two chances to shoot before you're in combat, and a couple of shit d6 can really make them seem pointless.

Not saying they're not worth it, but it is a choice between them and stormbolters much more than it once was.

>>54036019

When using points you pay per model and only use the minimum/maximum size stuff listed in the points section, you do not have to take them in groups of 3 and you do not have to pay for them in bunches of 3.

Want two hive guard? pay for two hive guard.

be honest, what would a $200 investmentin 40k be like? would it be worth it or should i look into another game

>>54036013
Humanity blew it up, because fuck xeno, chaos infested Cadia.

>>54036007
>>54036015

Cool thanks, I just learned that these are primaris marines, is this a whole new list that normal muhrines don't have access to?

>>54036048
>Got to any online discount retailer
>Use my list as a template
>see how far you get
>post back here
Have fun

>Behemoth 2: Stealth Boogaloo (+6CPs)
>HQ
Tyrant: Wings, Boneswords, Deathspitter w/bugs - 206
Tervigon - 250

>Troops
30x Termagaunts: 10 Devs - 160
30x Hormagaunts - 150
30x Hormaguants - 150
3x Warriors: Swords + Spitter - 96
6x Rippers - 66

>Elite
2x Lictors - 90
6x Hive Guard: Impalers - 288
Maleceptor - 184

>Heavy
2x Trygons - 350
1999/2000

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Points or power? You cannot stop me!

>>54036048
Depends on what you want to play.

>>54036048
I think you could make a decently sized force with that. It'd be enough for two start collecting boxes (or one and an armored assault box) and some paints. Possibly even a bit more if you find a good discount.

It depends on the exact army you pick with that, but you could probably make a 500-1000 point list depending on what you chose. That's enough for a small game.

I would recommend Killteams or Shadow Wars as an alternative, since you'd likely need even fewer models for that, but I'm not sure anyone is playing those right now.

>>54035986
You have fallen inot my iron shitpost. Just as useless as Dorn.
>>54035991
Its a and AL primarch either way, guaranteed 100%. Being killed by dorn is probably the most embarrassing fate to befall any primarch. Lorgar is now cooler than alpharius.

>>54036048

Depends on what army you want to play

infantry heavy guard will be maybe 1000 points at $200 if you're frugal

Primaris marines can have a full 2000 point army for the starter box + trading your deathguard away

Who interests you most? We can help you if we know that

>>54036059

Primaris marines are part of the normal marines codex and can be taken by any marine army with zero restrictions. They have new stuff, different rules and will probably phase out the old space marine kits after a while but army wise they're completely compatible and in the same section of the book. Feel free to drop one or two units into your existing marine army.

>>54036066
what is all this? I'm not interested in tyranids

>>54036072
I'm still on the fence on either Death Guard, Necrons or Dark Eldar

Whats the approximate conversion ratio from power to points? 1:15?

>>54036085

Awesome thanks anon

>>54036089

Death guard are getting even more new releases soon and have some very cheap (but still good looking) models in the starter set.

>>54036089
You wanted to know how expensive it can be, Nids are pretty model heavy - so why not see how much it costs in fat dollars as an example on what it can get you in 40k

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>>54035938
Conquering all of this in less than 200 years.

I have a bunch of leftover Marines from my HH sets, and I want to start a Carcharcodon force. What units should I look at to stay fluffy besides Tartaros and assmarines?

>>54035624
I-is that a Haiku?

>>54036044
Cool, thanks.

>>54035566
>buying boxes for miniatures
Fucking plebeians. Personally I have bought an armada of Hummers to transport my precious miniatures in, along with personal drivers for each and every one of them.
I can't believe I share a hobby with you poorfags. Revolting.

>>54036122
But anon Orks have already won.
The 40k galaxy is basically Ork heaven

>>54036089
The starter set is $160, comes with roughly 1000pts of two forces, one of which is deathguard, you can probably get $60 for the primaris part, so $200 can get you 2k worth of death guard.

>>54036067
No, but your wallet can.

>>54036089
Death guard would be the easiest, So easiest route is to buy a box, trad out the primarus stuff for nurlge stuff with a space marine player. This nets you an almost ready to go army + the rules, then either use the mini-dex in the box, or spend $25 to by the actual index for chaos, after that maybe see what you can build, or save your shekels for something bigger like a tank or a full sized unit of something you want to run.

>>54036135
>vehicles
>such pleb
>not using your personal hawk army
>not using said hawks to deploy each one of your models

Fucking plebs.

I'm poor in the sense that I have to buy tourist sits for each one of my hawks instrad of my own private jet, but come on how plebeian you must be to use vehicles to transport your models

>>54036139
No, the Orks racial goal is to conquer the galaxy. Source the Beast series.

>>54036188
>fanfic
>valid source

Was that the same series where Eldar use a webway into de imperial palace and proceed to mown down the defenses like nothing. To then proceed to get pissed when people attacked them in their clear diplomatic intentions

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RETURN MY TREASURES TO ME

AND I MYSELF

WILL CARRY YOU TO THE GATES OF VALHALLA

Come on GW wtf are you thinking?

>>54036188
BL strikes again. holy shit.

>>54035624
You can see a fuckload of sunlight coming from behind the table, OF COURSE it looks off you fuck.

>>54036213
The only problem is their lower legs. Young scouts being edgy with skull masks makes sense. Then they grow out of it an become regular chads.

>>54036213

Something good because those guys are sick.

They finally got it right and realized the jump pack dudes should have guns and the infiltrating guys should be melee specialists.

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>>54035541

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>>54036213
Necron marines are best marines.

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>>54036176
>Letting a hawk crush your models in its death grip

It's almost as if none of you plebs practice the sport of kings

>>54036248
THERE'S POWERFUL NIGGOTRY AT WORK HERE

>>54036229
The only thing correct here is that they're sick.
Not sick as in a good sculpt, but actually diseased like you who doesn't like shock and awe.

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>>54036251
Wrong race gearhead.

>>54036257

Swap their heads for scout heads and they'll look great

>>54035624
Besides Conscripts, what's actually wrong with this?

Opinion /tg/ is it reasonable to charge someone 500 to clean, warp, build, and paint a t'au bar supremacy suit?

Any thoughts as to what the most fun to play footslog army might be? Leaning towards Necrons, but seeking second opinions.

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>>54036213
would these guys even be offered Primaris?

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>>54035339
>Being Anything Other Than Imperium
>Being Anything Other Than Ultramarines

>>54036294
You mean space sharks? Yeah, they're getting them.

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>>54036269
silly mon'keighs stealing aesthetics from the master race.

Newfag trying to get into 40k here (never played before)
So the army builder is gone. Is there a database I can at least use to easily access datasheets for all the units? Flipping through a codex is a pain in the ass.
I know the math-hammer doc exists but I'm looking for something with a bit more detail

hey guys i didnt buy the 8th ed rule book yet.
i would like to add some sm to my skitarii. does anyone know if i still need 1 hq and 1 troop in order to do a combined arms detachment? thanks in advance

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>>54036269
eldar are such manlets that they even pad out their skull helmets upward.

>>54036295
I picked Chaos

>>54036254
>having badly trained hawks

Get a look at this pleb
My hawks must be deadly gentle!

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>>54036294
Are they Space Sharks?

>codexes come out
>imperial guard (IG, Eldar, DEldar)
>imperial agents (SoB, Inqs, RT)
>space marines (all chapters, DWKT, GK)
>tau
>orks
>tomb kangz
>chaos (marines, daemons)
Each book for measly $80.

>>54036294

Nobody has actually been singled out as not getting primaris marines, so I think its more of an option for Your Dudes to still be normal marines rather than there being any named chapter anyone cares about lacking primaris.

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Another crack at the list.

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>>54036308
You mean necrons?

>>54036308
>HeardAboutYourCraftworldBuddy.jpg

>>54036336
Hoist the colours!

>>54035838
Part and parcel of living in the dark city, mon'kiegh

>>54036343
Battlescribe has the bad habit of adding a model with a gun instead of just the gun.

Check that out because the points from a glance look odd

>>54036328
This guy makes the Carchodons sound like the sharpest edge since the Dark Angles.
Wtf is their deal?

>>54036310

Until someone comes out with another army builder, no

Though looking through codexes is a lot of fun in my opinion.

>>54036371
he wrote red tide or whatever was ok

>>54036204
>fanfic

Nope, canon. Even in the Ork codex says that the Orks have a primal desire to conquer the galaxy.

>>54036371

They're basically World Eaters minus the chaos

They are the imperium's edgiest smurfs

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>>54036324
>Say that to my face and not online

>>54035885
Yeah I just wish the points were the main focus and not an index in the back, that's where the power points belong

>>54036371

They're basically loyalist night lords who got exiled for acting like loyalist night lords even though they're not loyalist night lords. So yes, they're literally living on the edge.

>>54036406
Anon we all know BL is fanfiction.
Payed fanfiction, but fanfic nonetheless.

The Ork heaven meme is due to Ork only wishing to fight since the galaxy is full of things to fight the Orks are already in heaven and thus already won

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>>54036308
Yes, we shall purge the Galaxy together and rule like it like brothers and sisters bound by blood and hatred to ruin.

>>54036424
exiled terran raven guard are night lords how?Source me senpai

>>54036370
no that's correct

>>54036418
She is adorable!

>>54035692

All lore comes from unreliable narrators. Checkmate, space mummies.

>>54036418
He looks mad

>>54036435
So if space marines breed with the space elves does that mean commoners have to breed with the daemonettes?

>>54036308
Leave tau alone, they can be used to cleanse mon'keigh from our galaxy as long as they stay the fuck away from maiden worlds.

When was the gimmick that Orks were bad at shooting added into fluff?

>>54036435
Got that full pic somewhere perchance?

>>54036434
Nope to the fafic. Nope to the dumb meme spouted by dumb anons.

>>54036450
Laurie Goulding said no.

>>54035730

You only hit on 6+ if you advance and shoot though?

>>54036471
They've had poor BS since the earliest editions

>>54035437
i just wrap them in paper towels and use rubber bands to hold them together

sometimes a shitty lance or antenna falls off but who cares its just plastic and i glue it back on

>>54036440
They go berserk in combat and eat the bodies of their foes, when taking a planet they skin civilians alive to spread fear among the survivors.

They're pretty edgy.

>>54036455
Space Marines are eunuchs, only seed they allowed to carry is that of their dear papa emperor.

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>>54036418

>>54035961

Every book is secretly an Alpharius book.

>>54036471
Orks don't aim, they point in a general direction and pull the trigger.

Why they try to add more guns, one is bound to hit something and it makes a cool loud noise.

>>54035908

Just take Tacs loser.

>>54036494
The terran raven guard were edgy aswell, too edgy for corax, so they were thrown away in battle and the survivors exiled.
>They go berserk in combat and eat the bodies of their foes, when taking a planet they skin civilians alive to spread fear among the survivors.
If thats your only proof might as well say they are chimeric or some shit.

>>54036496
Still doesn't answer my daemonette question.

>>54036512
>Orks don't aim, they point in a general direction and pull the trigger.

Which is my question, when was this "funny" fluff added in warhammer.

>>54036502
Do you have specific reaction images for all birds of prey or just Hawks?
Very niche, impressive

>>54036527
I think the bs 2 stat was added in 3rd. Before that they were bs3.

I'm dumb and didn't save the leaks. Anyone have a link to the Chaos Index?

>>54036527

Orks used to be WS3/BS3 back in 2nd, when they had the pickelhaubes helmets.
3rd Edition saw them going to WS4/BS2 to differentiate them from the Guard.

>>54036543
Okay, when was "they aren't very good at aiming" put in the fluff?

>>54036527

3rd edition, in 2nd orks were fluffed the same but had equal BS to their guard equivalents

>>54036579
Orks have always been retarded man.

>>54036521
>chimeric

Supposedly, they're RG, NL, and WE and were formed during the Heresy, but we just don't know.

>>54036543
>>54036575
>>54036580

Ta lads.

>>54036515

Can't make me, manlet

How do people suggest I kill enough hormagaunts out of a 100+ model horde to stop them from drowning me in bodies and killing me in melee

I play marines

>>54036580
Isn't that when they had trukks just be "pile in as many boyz?"

>>54036597
Have you tried fielding marines?

>>54036597
Switch to guard.

>>54036472
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3754011

>>54036579
Since forever. It's not that Orks are bad at aiming, it's that they do not aim. At all.

>>54036597
FRFSRF

Grav-flux bombard

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>>54036455
Eldar would never sex a human.

Put it like this:

Eldar see humans as animals, that's why they reluctantly do anything with them.

If an Eldar has the hots for a human, that's literally the equivalent to them as being into bestiality.

Yep.

Eldar sexing a human = equivalent to a horsefucker.

I remember a Black Library writer stating this, I forgot his name, but he has done a lot of books for GW.

>>54036295
This nigga' knows what's up. Picture related. 1/3
Sorry for the shit camera quality.

>>54036610
Then running shouldn't have any effect on their "accuracy" :^).

>>54036584
Based on what though m8? So many times I see this on tg and no one ever sources it. The raven guard thing lines up a little from FW 30k shit, people just hate the raven guard so they always say this shit, but no source. It just comes across wishful.

>>54036597
Land raider crusader
Twin assault razorback
Scout squads to deploy near and slow the advance

Generally put more anti infantry heavy weapons in your army

>>54036614
>Eldar would never sex a human.
>equivalent to them as being into bestiality
This seems contradictory.

>>54036620
Are scouts actually effective against that? I feel like there's usually enough termagants around to shoot scouts down unless I can set them up in cover with camo cloaks.

>>54036628
take the knot

>>54036597
Supersonic units might work, they can't be charged unless its flying so whittle them down with strafing runs.

>>54036641
That's fair, I recently ordered a stormraven I'm waiting on.

>>54036614
So many humans are animalfuckers it's not even funny. If that's the standard for Eldar then far more than I expected like the hot mon'keigh dick/vagina.

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>>54036628
Well, some HAVE done. I recall there being some Eldar halfbreed pirate/assassin in one of the Graham McNeill Ultramarine books. Of course, she's a pirate and outcast due to being a bestiality baby.

Pic 2/3

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Can I use this for a gk doomglaive if I convert it a bit? It looks sick as fuck.

>>54036609
Thank you Battle-Brother!

>>54036614
>Eldar would never sex a human.
I assume Vect keeps human women for display right?
Dark Eldar shag humans all time.

>want to build tau lists
>dont want to spam commanders
>i want to use crisis and riptide suits
>But theyre so cost effective
>inner waacfag shaking intensifies

They really need to buff crisis suits to BS3+, this is getting ridiculous

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>>54036694
Yeah, but as I said - It's akin to Bestiality.
And Dark Eldar are degenerate fucking nutjobs, of course it suits them.

Choosing the word "Never" was a bit strong. Should have stayed with "Hardly ever."

Pic 3/3.

For the 500 worlds and all that.

>>54036683
Why can they even mix?

>>54036694
Dark Eldar are hyper decadent degenerates so that's no surprise.

>>54036435
>Not pulling her hair plume
WELL WHAT THE HELL ELSE IS IT FOR

>>54036726
Nice ultras.

>>54036614
>>54036683
>>54036726
Those are some ace Ultramarines, anon! But why aren't the barrells drilled?

That feel when no more Fire Hawks jump pack command squads. Shame, I'd just started to make progress on my allied detachment. I guess I'll finish them and hope they bring them back when chapter tactics make a return.

>>54036735
Obviously he doesn't want to hurt her.

>>54036735
he uses his dick instead of a chainsword as well. The codex astartes does not approve of this action.

>>54036614
There was like Eldar poet who wrote that Orks are the best race ever, cos they are simple and elegant straightforward manifestation of violence... was called Whatshisname the Perverse. So everything goes.

They would not have sex with ugly mutant human like marine, thats for sure tho.

>>54036597
Honestly, you just need to shoot them and eventually charge them. The best way to deal with hordes are a dedicated cc unit with mass number of attacks, 3 or 4 a model.

Cc is the answer to hordes, I gore your army has the option.

I see the value in all of the Primaris dudes, except the Inceptors. They have heavy bolters, but why spend 225 points on them?

>>54036769
The only thing marines have that fit that description is chainsword vanguard I'm pretty sure.

>>54036683
This is retarded, how they fuck xenos and human can breed? Even they have like 1 less or 1 more chromosome its not gonna work.

>>54036730
I have no idea. Ask the lore writers, perhaps it's a carry-over from the fantasy elves and humans aspect of it.
>>54036742
>>54036743
Thanks, and to the latter; Simply because I CBA.

Some of the marines don't even have their mold lines filed/scratched away. Can hardly see them, and I just wanted them finished and ready to a just-above tabletop standard.

Nowadays I tend to remove mold-lines, but years ago I didn't.

Drilling seems like too much work, too. I bust my ass painting them so I'd rather not add more work to it.

Same goes for magnets, I don't bother. I like how I equip them.

I'll take a snap of an extra in a second, of the kitbashed stalker bolter sniper captain I made.

>>54035996
He's definitely a traitor to the Imperium, but not to Humanity, and he ain't not Chaos Git.

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>>54036607
>only 100 Tyranids? Second rank, take a break.

>>54036795
Old lore had an Ultramarine half Eldar librarian.
No wonder girly man want some eldar ass. It is in his genes to be a deviant

>>54036795
Because humans and eldar were both created by or at the very least genetically manipulated by the old ones

>>54036694
yeah and dark eldar are complete pervs.

>>54036496

They still have their dicks. They're sterile. There's a difference.

>>54036759
That's just ultra heresy.

>>54036794
That sucks, when I play against conscript spam as nids, I use genestealers to buzz saw through like 35 a fight phase each.

Death Guard codex when?

>>54036828
Yea, limp dicks.
And i am sure their armor have removable codpiece in case they want to fuck some xenos.

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Guys I am a little confused about building Detachments.

If I were to have an Imperium detachment, would I be able to field any Imperium units within it?

>For example, a Space Marine Captain has the IMPERIUM and ADEPTUS ASTARTES keywords, so belongs to both the Imperium and Adeptus Astartes Factions. This means that if a Space Marine Captain was part of a Detachment with the restriction that all units must be from the same Faction, all other units in that Detachment must either be from the Imperium Faction, or they must all be from the Adeptus Astartes Faction.

From this I gather that I could have Marines and AdMech in the same detachment but my group argues otherwise, that if they're separate in the indexes they need to be in separate detachments but can't point to any specific page where it's stated.

>>54036854

You are correct.
Imagine that your books have Codex: Imperium stamped on them.
Every army is a Crusade army now.
You can take almost half of the units in the game.
Eat shit Orks,
>BS2

>>54036854
Yes. The rules are clear. Single Detachment.

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>>54036854
You can. Cos rules are dumb.

>>54036841
Yeah that'd be nice

It looks like the best thing marines have for melee would be double lightning claw vanguard. For the low low price of 31 points per model, you get T4 W1 3+ armor guys with jump packs, and 3 attacks each with S4 AP-2 1 damage claws which reroll failed wounds. I think you can get 3 genestealers for that.

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So Duncan sez this method of painting Iyanden Wraith models would not work on anything larger than a Wraithlord
Basically, you undercoat with white, use a yellow shade and edge highlight with white.
Is there any reason why I couldn't paint a Wraithknight this way, even with sub-assemblies?

>>54036725
I actually like riptides. They are a hard nut to crack and have some pretty good shooting. Heavy burst cannon with advanced targeting system is 12 s6 ap -3 d2 shots, pretty darn good at killing the stuff that leaks out of rhinos and razor backs after your commanders pop them open with their fusion blasters. On paper they do not have the raw damage to pts cost ratio that people like to talk about but in actual usage they have a ton of utility having such a large range and being so hard to kill. Also your opponent will not be shooting your riptide when you just dropped a few commanders or crisis suits in his face. You need to take into consideration the value of having something that will live a return volley.

Play a few games with something that counts as a riptide and see if you like it.

>>54036911
It doesn't really pool properly on large flat surfaces. You run into the same issue when trying to do the layered washes over metallics method for space marines. Works great on infantry, but your Rhinos end up looking like shit.

>>54036877
>>54036882
>>54036889
Thanks for the clarification lads, I thought I was going crazy.

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>>54036743
>>54036742
>>54036810

Here's shots of my custom slapped-together captain.

Formed with leftover parts from devastator squad parts, captain bits, and spare guns.

...And decorative gubbins.

1/3

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>>54036614
There was a scientist who tried to breed humans and apes together, his research led to him being exiled
Deldar already got their asses exiled, so nothing stopping them trying to breed the Mon'keigh with interesting things.

>>54036877
It's 5+ now, ya idiot. The memes have to change with the tide!

>>54036448
She has her moments

>>54036451
They only ever look majestic in profile, in portrait they look continually startled

>>54036894
just kill their synapse, then start clearing them out with leadership checks. nids are very easy to beat with marines. you just need bolters and lascannons
boys over toys, remember that

also its REALLY hard for nids to deal with landraiders

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>>54036961
2/3

I love using this guy as my standard captain when playing, something about him feels a bit more active when it comes to fighting alongside his battle brothers.

Less of a "I'll stand back here and yell uplifting speeches" and more of a "I'll cover you as I radio orders to each of your squads."

>>54036972
>AOrukkii

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>>54036998
3/3

Of course, he has his sword stored away.

Wanted to have it on his belt, but just wouldn't work as he was kneeling.

Looks badass on his back though.

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>>54036961
Mold line.

>>54036998
That sword looks a little heard to reach

>>54036990
Bird of prey are natures most magestic derpist killing machine

>>54036911
Washes are weird on flat uninterrupted surfaces, it's better to make a thin yellow glaze for them instead.

>>54037009
Why do those tyranids have blood like the Kaiju from Pacific rim?

>>54036991
Sure there's usually a hive tyrant or something you can focus down with lascannons, but how do you kill broodlords?

>>54036912
Youre preaching to the choir about the Riptide

I just wish Crisis Suits were good for something besides flamer spam.

>>54036968
Look, he succeeded.
>>54037009

>>54037047
Check your privilege CIS Scum!

For the Republic!

>>54037065
I doubt apes are as autistic and assblasted as that faggot.
It has been almost a month of him alone trying to force the meme

>>54035303
Oh no he's gunna get my rear armor- oh nevermind!

You can be in front or behind the firing lines; it only really matters to me if your targeting a character.

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REMOVE MOLD LINE

>>54037032
Yeah I'm aware. Check -> >>54036810
>>54037037
Maybe, maybe not.

I can just imagine him reaching back and drawing it with his right arm overhead.

>>54035437
KR multicast. Cheap enough and customized slots for each model

>>54037077
This reminds me; has anyone sad at the loss of vehicle-facing tried a houserule like +1T to front of vehicle, -1T to rear of vehicle? Curious how that would play out.

>>54036961
also bretty cool

>>54035378
Why do you play a hellforged sword?
It looks like a waste of points, since it costs 40pts as opposed to a second claw which only costs 10 points.

Still everyone plays the sword. What did I miss?

>>54036795
Old ones planned it, both races will become one once the Eldar and human are desperate enough, and this new race of pointy eared graceful and psychic humans will return the galaxy to glory and pacify chaos.
Then they will fuck another god into existence and the orks will WAAAGH! into it killing him and with this backlash make the tyrannids die out but in doing so restore all the consumed races to life again.
Then they will return and give souls back to the necrons who will once gain become the necrontyr but in a not shit planet and series of planets.
Then Sigmar's magical realms happen and shit gets blown up again.

>>54036912
>Heavy burst cannon with advanced targeting system is 12 s6 ap -3 d2 shots
Its only damage 1

>>54036839
Eldar count as human now so it's not.