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Dead fucking game Edition

resources
>pastebin.com/Cb3X4ZKW

Core rules
>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Rules

Skirmish
>https://mega.nz/#!jMQxCa6C!9TQ324QTcZ7nDJbv2Q7uQ9xg442K-UA-dtK2wTLxFPw

General Handbook
>https://mega.nz/#!nMpnGQBS!Ew5rz8JMzKi5e7_mtN9nibMGY3UWO5jwOl8DIf9UZ1I

Army builder
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/

Custom Warscroll Designer
>http://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

Old thread
>>53880935
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In terms of activity and popularity, how has AoS done recently? I know the release was a bit rocky but how are things now?

Is Skarsnik still alive?
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>>53965086
We don't really know since we don't know sales numbers and all anons in these threads can offer are anecdotal stories that we can't verify in the slightest.

It did well for one-quarter which made it show up in a sales list but that's not telling us much. Furthermore, what is your definition of success or popularity?
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>>53965151
Success = The level of financial returns it is making for GW.

Popularity = Do many people play it/has it brought many people back into GW?
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>>53965151
A third party report based on data from retailers from a while back put it as the #4 selling miniatures war game in the US, but that report is a little old now, and didn't reflect direct sales from any product line listed

GW has never released sales numbers in that detail, only overall for the company. GW has been selling much more under Rountree than it did under Kirby, but it is hard to know what portion of those sales were Age of Sigmar.

Anecdotes from retailers suggest GW's most best selling products are the hobby supplies and boxed games.
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mfw next release is more SC

probably riding lions this time
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The game is dead as fuck. Just shitty rules for Skirmish, new fucking retarded Sigmarines vs Chaosmarines starter pack and more fucking 40k wanking.
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Does anybody know more about shadespire? Release date? Price? The models look cool so I'm interested in knowing more. Maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen anything recently.
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>>53965436
It has pockets where it is really popular.

The nearest FLGS to me does 1 night a week of 40k, 1 night for xwing, 2 nights for RPGs, and 3 for mtg. No AoS at all.

If I were to head north for three hours, the game store there does 3 nights a week of AoS, with other nights for war machine and infinity. It's like some promised land of wargaming that is just slight too far to go to except on special occasions, and it isn't even a particularly large or special store.
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>>53965509
>bloodreavers are chaos marines
>not recognizing it is the exact same models are the AoS starter
Here is your (you)
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/23/vandus-and-khul-matched-play-points-june22gw-homepage-post-2/

New rules for two meme characters
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>>53965509
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>>53965500
This would be cool

They have a lot of lion iconography
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>>53965786
I mean, I see nothing wrong with Chaos in AoS.

My only problem is the dry and copy-pasted design of the Sigmarites. Literally Space Marines in Fantasy. If they were to provide a more iconic and mainline design while still being kind of medieval, I feel Age of Sigmar would be far better accepted than it is now.
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>>53965059
Soon
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>>53965086
Starting out sucked because of bitter Neckbeards, got a little better but now it's looking worse because 40k is basically the same rules system now.

Same problem that killed fantasy in the first place, just can't compete with 40k. Now its only worse because rules probably don't justify a big enough difference and 40k might actually be the more balanced of the two.
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>>53966816
Well since Fantasy was always overshadowed by 40k, even in the 90s, is that really a bad thing?
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>>53965086
>In terms of activity and popularity, how has AoS done recently? I know the release was a bit rocky but how are things now?
Well, in my area AoS just started to live desu. Remember when I was literally the only one willing to play in my city. Now you can see 10-15 players on every casual tournament so it's something
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Ok, so I need some help. I have my first game of age of sigmar coming up. It's in a skirmish campaign. Problem is that I'm joining a couple weeks late so I have way less renown then my opponent who is running a list that includes (but isn't limited to) 3 tzangor skyfires/enlightened (can't remember which). I wanna run skaven. I only have 30 renown. What should I do to give me good odds?
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>>53968365
At the moment, I'm considering using a warlock engi with reserves of courage and a cursed tome, as well as 10 clanrats. Then save up renown for a doomwheel or stormfiend or fire weapon team.
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Does anyone have the Start Collecting : Greenskins box and can take a picture of the back? I lost mine and need to see the paints.
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>>53969685

just use google, it'll take like 3 seconds
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>>53969949
I did use google, the color names are illegible in the pictures I found
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>>53970014
Never mind, I found a good image with a slightly different search
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>>53968365
>same
>not 'same-same'

-1 warpstone token
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/23/vandus-and-khul-matched-play-points-june22gw-homepage-post-2/
so this is new thing I guess.
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>>53969351
Or would a warlord work better?
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One will lead my skirmish force. Who will it be?
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>>53969685

the paints for ork skin are : waagh flesh, biel-tan green, warboss green, skarsnik green

boar skin is bugman, reikland and cadian fleshtone.

the rest is self explanatory
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>>53970130
If I did the warlord, paint my stuff like the old clan skurvy or with silver armor and a green robe, like the chieftain from vermintide
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>>53970130
Depends, what the rest of your list. If you need more shooting and magic take Ikit, if not take the warlord.
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>>53970354
I've only got 30 points available right now, so it's probably just gonna be 10 clanrats this week. If I somehow (pretty big if there) won, I'd add 2 stormvermin and 2 clanrats to the warlord, or I'd add nothing to the warlock until next week when I'd give a weapon team of some sort or a stormfiend
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Fuck it. I don't care if I win or lose. Clan Skurvy is too tempting not to do. How do I do yellow robes?
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>>53971138
Also, where can I get a good boat?
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>>53971226
Here
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>>53971138
>Clan Skurvy
Averland suset, casandora yellow.
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>>53971682
Sick. I'm thinking I'm going to find like a toy pirate ship and repaint it to be more queekish
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>>53971750
http://factorydirectcraft.com/catalog/products/1302_1998_2013-25849-wooden_model_pirate_ship_kit.html

Use this anon
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>>53968365
>>53969351
Warlord is nice as a multi-attacks assassin but with Warlock you can use some shooting and magic phase. If you want to pick a Warlord you should choose a Soulsever Blade instead of Tome for him imo. Also Merciless Killer seems to be useful with clanrats
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>>53972095
That's another question raised. What should I arm my clanrats with?
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>>53972163
Blades of course. I mean spears are used with 20+ units in normal games. In skirmish you want as low to hit and to wound rolls as possible because you are losing the Strength in Numbers ability bonus. I see no point in 5+/4+ instead of 4+/4+ just for extra 1" range if you have only 10 models tho. Clanrats are shit in Skirmish so you just want to flood your opponent with them, make as many damages as possible and buy better models
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Do we already have epub or pdf of pic related? Or maybe it's not released yet?
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>>53972337
skaven are actually shit for skirmish

Burn your dumb rats and buy a real army. I recommend something like Tzeentch or Sylvaneth.
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>>53972672
Nah mate, Skirmish is just an excuse to play games even if I have not enough time for "real" games. Rats are decent for 1000pts and 2000pts matches and okay for 50+ renown skirmish games
I seriously thought about dropping them for Nurgle Daemons but I already have something like 100 rat models - I went to far so I'm gonna stick with them until their new releases or slowly death
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So I've been collecting Bloodbound as my starter army and I've finally reached 1000 points. Its just a casual list for going against friends that are also getting into the hobby.

For 1000 points, how does my list look, C&C greatly appreciated. I'll be going against dispossessed, stormcast and maybe high elves.

JuggerLord
Bloodsecrator
Slaughterpriest with wrathhammer
Skullgrinder

10 blood warriors with gore axes and glaive
10 blood warriors with gorefists and glaive
3 Mighty Skullcrushers with Ensorcelled axes.

This puts me right on 1000
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>>53966816
I would of gotten into fantasy prior to age of sigmar; but the new setting and the sigmarines really don't appeal to me at all.
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>>53973034

Fantasy yet lives, in fact we're entering a new golden age.
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>>53973071
How so Anon?

Will the old world ever return? I really don't like the star gate setting they got going on.
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>>53973215

It's all community run now and better for it.

We have a new RPG out next year though.

Companies like above have picked up OOP models.
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>>53973235
>>53973215
Why are you even talking about fantasy here if you have your own general?
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>>53973235
So after two to three years it will actually be usable right. Just like the abortion that was 9th Age
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Played Gorechosen tonight. Pretty fun, I'm looking forward to Shadespire now.

Quick question though, in AoS proper, do you measure from the model or the base? Because my opponent had some units that were based weirdly so even when the bases were touching, the models were more than inch apart.
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>>53965059
40k 8th ed rules for 40k when? I want new GW fix AoS ASAP
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So I'm going to use the skaven warlord for my skirmish force as d throw in a weapon team later, but for the rat on the warlord's hip, I'm going to paint it as if the warlord/sealord/Captain Gristlefang died his rat bright colours as if to mimic human pirate's parrots.
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>>53973698
Dyed*
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>>53973539
From base. Anyone who does otherwise is an autist who gives us a bad rep.
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>>53973698
>>53973732
Clan Skurvy?
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>>53973754
Right, thanks. I actually thought an inch was a bit low. The flying marine kind of guys, persecutors I think, can barely get within 2 inches of each other because of the wings.
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I have kitbashed and converted some 40 models for my armor and still have nearly a dozen more to do. With each one unique, it is really very time consuming.

What is everyone else working on?
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>>53973776
>can barely get within 2 inches of each other because of the wings.
As a SE player, I know this pain
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Anyone have any ideas for a skaven warband of 30+ renown? I'm going for a clan Skurvy theme, so I e got to use the warlord I think (I guess I COULD use an engi, but I only have the ikit claw model for that). For the 30 I was just thinking the general and 10 rats, but after that I run into the problem of finding good, fluffy models to fit in. At the very least, after the first game I could include a couple stormvermin and save 2 points for later for a ogre or weapon team. Thoughts?
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this is some kind of sick joke from someone who hates elves right?
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>>53974763
>liking elves
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>>53974763
>elves
>aelves
>caring about them
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>>53967016
>>53966816
>inb4 40k and Sigmar gets blended together in some unholy (and lawyer inspired) consolidation with some hand waving stupid reason of dimension portals being discovered and the Sigmar realms become linked to the 40k universe, to act as reinforcements for the besieged Imperium along with portals to alternate human dominated universes colonized from the Golden Age of Mankind.

Just to buy time so the Emperor can be reborn and ally himself with his mary sue counterpart saviors ala Sigmar and the other immortal demigods.
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anyone know if there's a copy of the grand alliance chaos book scanned?
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My theory is they will bring back wfb and introduce aos factions into the setting.
Inb4 screeching autism.
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>>53976934
My theory is that they ignore AoS and scrap the whole game for more 40k
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>>53976934
>>53978196
My theory is that the entirety of wfb and aos will turn out to all be a dream in the Emperors mind.
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>>53965786
But Khul is great in the Realmgate series
I keep wanting to run Khorne, but i'm waiting for Vampires
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>Aelves
>Duardin
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>>53969351
Plague monks are better than clanrats for the same cost and their unit leader can AOE nuke entire warbands.
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>>53979308
>Grots
>Orruks
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Thoughts on this?
I trying to make something that'll kill some time before Vampires get a dedicated BT/Release
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>>53979358
I'm buying a start collecting box for a cannon and bell but I will probably keep the monks only for Skirmish games
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>>53976934
>Inb4 screeching autism
But it is screeching autism tier opinion Anon. They keep making stuff like TW:WH and new WHF RPG just to suck as much salty fantasyfags money as possible but WFB will not be back. Even if, it would be only Fantasy by name - 40k is a proof that GW is going to drop all these stupid fatty rules for good
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>>53973235
Just like 9th Age, the totally better alternative that no one plays.
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>Finally get a Start Collecting box
>Order spray online
>It arrives
>EVERY DAY IS WINDY OR TOO HUMID TO SPRAY

For fuck's sake, two weeks I wait now to start painting.
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>>53980637
>not airbrushing
Expensive but it's jut so damn useful
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Fuck I think I'm out of control in this hobby - it's an addiction . 2 years later, can any one beat 25K + of Death? Here's a portion.
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>>53980968
Anon, but why? I have 1,5k of skaven for now and my plan to reach 2k pts is just an expensive extravagance even in my opinion
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>>53980968
2 years and you still have that much unpainted shit? Shame, anon.
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>>53980968
In a single army, you got me beat. Could field 60k points across all my AoS armies however, and twice that across 40k. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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>>53981284
Wow that's crazy/(me too) what do you have?
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>>53974763
Lion rangers are a fully functional, competitive, and most importantly fun faction to collect and play. Look at all those choices... where to even begin.

swear im not bitter at all
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How are Dwarfs err-Dispossessed?

Want to get into AoS.
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>>53981642
Sturdy defenses, even some against mortal wounds, good anti magic, but no real way to generate MW of their own and I find they struggle to deal enough damage a lot of the time.
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>>53981120
The biggest shame. Its a mountain
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>>53974763
>>53981595
lol wtf do they actually think people will buy those for a faction with two units? Obviously this is why no one plays elves.
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>Still no GHB2 leaks
Jesus Christ just give us something already
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>>53979358
Can I even use unit leaders in skirmish? I own 2k points of pestilens, so I have the resources
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>>53983094
Ok so here's my new idea (seeing as clan Skurvy won't win me much):

-plague priest w/staff (for dat aoe bomb)
>helm of authority
>inspirational fighter & merciless killer
-14 plague monks (all banners and instruments)

Add some stormvermin in later maybe, and a rat ogre
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>>53983094
>Can I even use unit leaders in skirmish?
Yes, one per warscroll
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>>53983387
Sweet. Guess I'm throwing in bobbo the book rat
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Dead thread
Dead game
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>>53983374
don't be afraid to branch out and grab some other chaos dudes, sometimes having lots of different options can be a real benifit. Not sure what models you got but take a look at some warscrolls, the plaguemonks book of woe is excellent and will delete most of the enemy single wound models.

If you're going up against skyfires they are a bit weaker by themselves, they'll probably end up trying to snipe your general but if you mob them in combat you should be able to bring them down.
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>>53982728
:^)
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>>53972871
Im debating between nurgle daemons or mortals to supplement clan pestilence
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>>53983374
Also if you happen to have a pink horror thats a real cheap wizard you can bring along for two points and can pump out mortal wounds for you.
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>>53983499
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Alright guys, I need to make the most cringy monstergirl army possible.

I've already got 5 Sisters of the Thorn as deertaur, I got Drycha and two Branchwraiths, I need the Medusa from the Bloodshrine, but what else?
I thought about combining the Wych Aelfs with some beastmen legs to make satyr girls.
Inspire me!
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>>53974597
The wings count as part of the model so just go from tip to tip
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>>53983512
Is it for real? I mean I could just missed something so plz don't bait me m8
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>>53983524
Might just make the general a warlock engi then if I have a book of woe.

>>53983508
Trying to go pure skaven for fluffy fun. Was originally planning on doing clan Skurvy with a warlord and clanrats, then adding a warpfire thrower or ogre.
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>>53983710
It's 100% legit m8
Form the Thunder & Blood starter booklet (from a french forum)
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>>53984064
Huh, good to know - I didn't notice it if it was posted before here. Any more news from this starter booklet?
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>>53973071
Damn, who makes those spearmen?
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>>53983591
>takes a picture from launch
>more than half the crowd is children
>those children were probably already in the store and asked to hold boxes and look excited
>2 of those children actually bought one
>1 never made a purchase again
>the other one sold the armies on Ebay and made some profit so bought it again but realized he didn't get enough of a return 2 months down the line so stopped.
>Adults are playing 40k again.

so...yeah. ded game.
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>>53984376
>A thread on mongolian horse riding image forum is dead so the game must be dead too
Shouldn't you also post your avatar, cheetahfag?
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>>53984438
Thank you for the (you)
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what do you guys think the next release is?
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>>53984547
Nurgle. GW will try to suck not only 40kids moneys but also our smegmar shekels in one release. I hope for nurgle battletome (including pestilens stuff), new GUO, new mortal followers and some big-ass model
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>>53984547
another stormcast army
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>>53984607
Did someone say pestilens?
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>>53984607

This actually kinda makes sense considering the nurgle push in 40k 8th.
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>>53984648
To be fair, nurgle never really gets much love in 40k
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>>53984638
I wish you great-great release Anon
>>53984648
I don't think it will be as big as Tzeentch shared release but something is better than nothing desu
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>>53984064
Alas, no other news according to the poster (it's on War of Sigmar and dakka, now..)
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>>53983779
Grey seer is best skirmish hero imho

If you're going pirates id go deathrunner with nightrunners and plague monks with one odd crew member from the chaos alliance list like a knight, warrior or rotbringer
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>>53971650
It never stops surprising me that the Squats would sooner show up in AoS than 40k.
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>>53985256
>Grey seer is best skirmish hero imho
But how?
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>>53985256
>nightrunners
Clan Skurvy is a warlord clan, plus nightrunners look like trash
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>>53985644
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>>53971226
Freebooter's fate sells boats of various designs.
Blood and Plunder is a game that sells ships and boats.
Aintsy castings also does ships and boats.
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>>53985725
Is it a fuckin rat dressed as a parrot?
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>>53972986
not a lot of dudes, and no hard hitter
the skullcrushers are no hard hitter, especially without rend
heck even with rend they hit like wet noodles, but they are a tanky unit that will get a lot of attention as they seem scary (but aren't)
i would replace the juggerlord with a mighty lord of khorne, or 20 bloodreavers with heavy axes, they have a nice synergy with the bloodsecrator
consider replacing some warriors/heroes for wrathmongers and skullreapers, they are good stuff
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>>53985779
Yup. I love it. I was going to paint the rat on the warlord's hip bright colours, as if he dyed it to be like ogor man eater pirates
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>>53985834
Bright skaven are best skaven - I'm painting mine with moot green so they would not look like a blob of brown and black
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>>53982129
i beg to differ, i've saw a very potent sylvaneth/elves wood elves combo, and tzeentch/high elves combo in a tournament, and both were brutals
sylvaneth tanked like hell with a treelord and 30 dryads hiding in woods and getting magic shield spam on the dryads, while elves sniped our heroes
tzeentch and high elves was magic/mortal wound spam with teclis and a big bird, with phoenix guard playing inmovable block of no-kill
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>>53985879
>tzeentch/high elves combo
>chaos/order combo

And just like that, all your credibility in that post was gone.
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>>53986089
>Implying Tzeentch would not talk Aelves into fighting on his side
Everything as planned
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>>53985878
Also for the warlord, I'm gonna paint one of his eyes as if it's a chunk of warpstone replacing a lost eye (like in the priest model)
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>>53986134
> I'm gonna paint one of his eyes as if it's a chunk of warpstone
You should do it. I don't know why everyone is painting their skaven's eyes red - green details look amazing on them
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Ok AoSg, my LGS is planning to start doing AoS Skirmish sometime soon, and I'm interested in joining in. I've got a bunch of Empire stuff(Not painted, but it's black and yellow scheme, not fun to paint anyway) and I'm conflicted as to whether I should use the halberdiers and gunners from that or start something new. Current considerations are Skaven or Lizardmen, although I would be open to trying a magic heavy army if there's one that's decently effective and pretty to look atAnd isn't Daemons

As well, square bases are fine for all units? I just prefer them, and they enable me to play old Fantasy/9th age as well.
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>>53986318
>As well, square bases are fine for all units? I just prefer them, and they enable me to play old Fantasy/9th age as well.
If you LGS players are okay with that then it's not a problem it's funny how AoS players are mostly okay with someone using square bases but fantasy players would kill you for using round ones
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>>53986318
Do a mix of Empire and Lizards. That'd look cool. What's the starting renown value?
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>>53986364
They seem pretty chill, I imagine they won't see much of an issue.
>>53986368
I could do that, maybe . Not sure of the starting renown, I'll have to ask next time. What's the usual starting ammount for campaigns?
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>>53986395
Most shops like to do 30 since a lot of the better leader choices are 24.

You could start with a star priest as your leader, a couple of hand gunners and some Saurus of your choice to be the back bone of the warband.
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>>53984376
>Writing fan fiction about people buying hobby products
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>>53986089
i forget to precise that it was a dual players tournament, 800pts per player, the other player army of the team is considered as ennemy for all intempt and puprose
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>>53986626
>800
That seems a little much. Do you mean 80 and it is just a typo?
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>>53986657
How would you play with a 80pts army? Anon is talking about matched play, not about skirmish
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>>53986687
We were talking about skirmish up until that post? Did I miss a turn in the conversation somewhere?
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>>53979827
>noone commented on this
I guessing it's either OP or standard for DoT
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>>53986712
No, that's why I'm suprised why in your opinion Anon would mean 80 instead of 800. What so amazing with playing 2x 800pts armies? It's just 1600pts in total - it's not big
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>>53986786
Oh I see where I got confused here. Sorry
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>>53965509
So your argument is being a braindead moron desperate to get attention and thus resorting to weak bait?
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>>53973495
9th Edition is really good actually, it's from the Warhammer Armies Project, and essentially combines 8th, 7th, and 6th into one rule set, and seems good. Fixed most of the issues with 8th ed and isn't shit like 9th Age.

Yes the names are confusing, just go to Warhammer Armies Project
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So the armour of Templehof means you ignore the first wound or mortal wounded inflicted on Mannfred each turn.

Now I was using my Lord Celestant on a Dracoth and I rolled a 6 and a 4 on my Dracoths Claws and so they deal D6 damage on that 6.

Which one is ignored? The D6 damage or the 1 damage wound? I can't see anything anywhere to indicate which one so we just rolled off, I won and he took 4 damage and died.
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>>53987584
How are skaven in 9th? I like how 40k operates with modifiers and a set number of net attacks.
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What I want: for GW to repackage the individual models from spite of dawn. I.e. plastic engineers, packmasters, and rat ogres that don't look like shit.

They DO realize people would actually buy this... right...
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>>53988437
Aren't the SoD models all on a mixed sprue? If so, repackaging the individual models would be unrealistic since they would need new moulds.
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>>53988437
ever since Island of blood you can buy those separately on ebay.
GW doesn't sell them separately, but everybody else does.
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>>53988619
make new moulds to make more money

Metal models are one of the things that keep people away from the rats.
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>>53988670
>Metal models
?
The older generation of rat ogres was a plastic kit.
And afaik GW only does metal for a few things that are exclusive to their store.

The special weapons and whatnot are all finecast.
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>>53988748
Weapon teams are metal, plus gw doesn't even sell the warpfire team on their site anymore
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>>53980968
>buying things before you painted your current shit
what a faggot.
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Can I shoot, throw magic hammers technically, and charge in the same turn with Prosecutors?
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>>53989647
Yes
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>>53989683
Then I done fucked up.
Ta.
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In skirmish, do I still get unit bonuses for having a certain amount of said unit?
For example: moonclan grots have a bonus to their save if the unit is ten or more. If I have, say, eleven of them, do I get that bonus on each guy?
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What's an interesting colour to paint Tzeentch armies?
I want to deviate from the usual Blue/Gold
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>>53995134
Gold and blue.
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>>53995478
:^)
I'll have to pop into the Nat Hist Museum for inspiration
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>>53995517
Silver and Red
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>>53995575
See i'm not against that, but i imagine it's pretty common due to the 30k TSons
I'm thinking Green/Silver armour, just need a skin tone
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>>53991907
No, each model is it's own unit.
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Does anyone have an Aleguzzler Gargant model or sprue? I'd like to know the measurements for the bone skull and jaws for conversion purposes.
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>>53965059
What do we think?
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>>53995134
I was making mine flesh colored, fading into glossy black for a crow/raven look. I was just doing silver and gold for the armour.
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Hi /aosg/. I'm new as fuck from 40k, dipping my toe in the water with skirmish (playing Order). I'm making my way through all the warscrolls looking at the options, but thought I'd ask- is there any unit that has an ability to take hits in place of others? Similar to the tau drones, sacrificing themselves to protect a valuable target.

Also I don't know the metagame, but I'm running mainly stormcast with a knight-venator as my hero, and was wondering what sort of a battlegroup would be a bad matchup. Star-fated arrow seems to be way too good at forcing an opponent to play without a major piece from an early stage in the game.
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>>53988670
Maybe when Skaven get an update book. I doubt management would approve making multiple new moulds without tying it to a major release.
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Never
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>>53997088
The only unit off the top of my head that can "grab" hits is the grunstok gunhauler, it can take hits for the larger boats in 3"
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>>53997088
A bunch of the Kharadron units can, esp if you count formations. Admiral can do it with command ability, and Iron Command let's you do it with other heroes.
Pretty sure Death has some things that can do it too. Necromancer and some TK banner guy I think.
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too soon?
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What's more successful in skirmish? Warlord and 10 rats, or plague priest and 14 monks?
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>>53998892
monks for sure
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>>53998920
Rip clan skurvy idea then. Luckily I have more monks paired than clanrats
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>>53998938
I know that feel mate - I have 80 clanrats and pretty no use for them in Skirmish
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>>53998977
I have 80 plague monks and all I can really use them for IS skirmish (hopefully nurgle battletome fixes that)
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>>53999202
Jesus, it would be so much easier to enjoy this hobby just by picking SCE or Plants instead of Rats. God help me
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>>53999297
Well, I actually discovered warhammer from the game "Warhammer end times: Vermintide", which got my heart set on rats. Couple that with the release of the pestilens SC and you've got me now.
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>>53998751
I'm really curious what they plan to do with elves moving forward. I'm personally hoping for elves with magic assault rifles. Pic related.
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>>53999790
nothing is impossible at this point.
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GW is going to release a 40k version of Storm of Sigmar
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>>54000520
aaaand here we go with small starter set
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>>53999790
please tell me there's a whole image set of this
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>>54000530
Jesus, even the "getting started with". We have a shared release model from now guys
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>>54000541
http://nuramoon.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=%2F&edit=0&q=sako
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Nothing new in July bois, more 40k.
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>>54000520
>>54000530
>>54000580
>We have a shared release model from now on guys

...I'm not seeing it. can you elaborate?
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>>54000659
These are copy-paste of AoS products
First Strike = Storm of Sigmar + terrain and a paper mat
Know no fear = Thunder & Blood
Getting Started with = Getting Started with
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>>54000541
There's disappointingly more.

http://nuramoon.deviantart.com/gallery/45606539/elf-cat-ears
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Can you guys help me make a 2000 point noight goblins army?

I'm currently at about 1140pts with:

Moonclan warboss 80
-squig and prodder
-bellowing tyrant & battle brew

Moonclan shaman 60
-talisman of protection

-------------------------------


Moonclan grots x40 240
-spears
-drummer & bad moon icon

Moonclan grots x20 120
-spears
-drummer & bad moon icon

Moonclan grots x20 120
-spears
-drummer & bad moon icon

Moonclan fanatics x2 60

Fellwater troggoths x3 200

-------------------------------

Mangler Squigs 240


I wanted to add more troggoths, but i feel that they are not as much usefull as 40 more gobbos...
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>>53999297
Giantrats should be 2 for 1 renown and 3 clanrats for 2 renown
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>>54001957
Nah, it's all about general abilities. Some units like clanrats are just not designed to operate as separate models. If GW would put some kind of "treat all same-warscroll models in 4" as a single unit (...)" it would be handy for armies like skaven but I'm not sure about balance tho
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>>54001231
You want more fanatics mate.
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>>53996544
seems fair to me
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Tell me guys, what is your main army? I see a plenty of skaven players here lately
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WHEN'S NEW DEATH SHIT
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>>54004421
maybe at the end of the year when they release the game that had some spoopy skellies in it.
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>>54004421
>>54004609
I know it is impossible but I want a Death vs Destruction starter set so much
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Blood Bowl is getting the best stuff for AoS lately. Can't wait to use pic related as a warlord
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>GW posts this March 22, 2017.
>3 months later no idea what it is still

What did GW mean by this?
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>>53985725
>>53985779
>>53985834
>>53985878
>mfw just doing my skaven leadbelacher for armor, khorne red for cloth and a mixture of leadbelcher and baltherzar gold for blades.
idk but all this stuff makes my skaven sound a bit boring :(
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>>54005737
same gonna add some horns to his head and make him a grey seer
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>>53980968
everyone should finish the models they have until buying new ones. unless it's a good deal.
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>>53980662
$50 isn't expensive.
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>>54004272
Was Dispossessed. Then started up Brayherd. Now I'm back to dwarfs with Kharadron Overlords, painting up an Ironclad.
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Has anyone here got some clear based Stormcast Eternals? I'm going to be mounting my Skirmishers on clear bases and I'm interested in seeing the final product. Cheers.
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I asked this before but I think it was right as the last thread died. Do you think an Ironclad is too much of a points investment for a 1000pt game? I wanted one just because I love the model, and so far I have 1 Admiral, 1 Ironclad, and 10 Arkanauts. Figured 10 more Arkanauts for battleline and some sort of hero/endrinriggers would get me a nice 1000pt list.
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>>54007169
>Was Dispossessed.
Ouch
>Then started up Brayherd.
Channeling that anger against The Man, I see.
>Now I'm back to dwarfs
Moved on but, still holding a grudge, huh?
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>>54007699
I've seen a handful of instance of clear bases looking really nice.
But mostly I'd be worried about them getting scratched up and turning milky.
I mean if you mainly play on mousepad gaming mats and printed cardboard scenery you probably won't have to worry about anything, but I'd get really paranoid about that stuff.
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>>54004421
Idk but looks like he plaguebearers are oop till reboxing
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>>54007699
>>54010123

Use Mica (or Acrylic Glass, or watever the hell it's called in your country) You will need to CNC or Laser cut them to the kind of base you want, and if you worry about scratches, just coat them with clear varnish (or tell the seller to coat them for you )

For picture you can try "warhammer 40k acrylic glass base"
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Best weapon for Savage Big Boss?
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WHEN'S NEW DEATH FUCKING SHIT

ORDER HAS SHINING GOLD SPACE MARINES
CHAOS HAS NAKED KHORNE CHAOS SPACE MARINES
DESTRUCTION HAS ORKS WEARING SPACE MARINES ARMOR

AND FUCKING DEATH HAS HOBO VOLDEMORTS

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>54011158
Look life has more important issues. Don't worry lad.
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>>53966720
They're dead, Jim. They aren't coming back.
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>>54011158
GIVE TOMB KINGS
GIVE TOMB KINGS
GIVE TOMB KINGS
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>>54005739
It's very similar to the earliest kharadron teasers they posted. I think the first one they did, which also was coloured was in 2016.

But I hope they are dark elves, and will be released in tandem with General's handbook 2017, like how Sylvaneth kind of coincided with the first General's Handbook.
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>asked GW if they could make rules for Grumlok & Gazbag
>they said they'd tried due to it being an awesome model
>nothing yet

It'l h-happen, won't it guys? I won't have to, will I?

>>54011299
I always find it hilarious one of the novels has a Bloodbound warband rekt by Sphinx's and yet nout happens in the game.

Wanna know what I think will happen?

>Settra survived due to being Chaos rezzed in WHFB
>He had his 'life' revoked by the Chaos Gods and he 'died' and went to Shyish
>At that point he was rezzed due to Nagash's power and remembered shit
>he then used his power to amass an army and followers
>just as Nagash is helping the Storm Cast in an important battle, Settra will rise up in Shyish and fracture the Undead again
>This will drag Nagash away to deal with it
>The Settra's army will be bound to his will and be against the rule of Nagash
>It'll be nu-Tomb Kings, possibly from a specific huge Empire that Nagash crushed
>my guess they'll be a mix of Egyptian, Persian, Arabian and so on models

Thoughts?
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>>54011664
Will it have some fucking shit for Seraphon? No unique magic table, warband rules, specific 'faction' rules (like Hammers of Sigmar or whatever) and no unique magic items.

I know we don't need it but it's easier to do.

Also I think 40k's newest army will be Exodites.
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>>54011936
Yeah Potentially?

I hope the second general's handbook will take some inspiration from 40k 8th. At least like give us spell lores specific to the four main factions or something, so you aren't tied to signature spells with all your casters.
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Am I the only one that wished that Vanguard Hunters were closer to pic related? I think they are a much better execution on the whole Sneaky, Less Armored guys then the Hunters turned out to be.

>>54004272
Damn, those are some sexy bases. Your dudes?
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>>54012239
I need a kind anon to photoshop those to be Blood Angels colours, with their masks white OR black. Bit too edgy for me but it could work for BA.

>>54012230
Part of me wants to be unique but it's screwing us over. I hope to avoid a specific colour scheme. They seem to have forced the Blue + Yellow Back + Red Shield scheme as the default scheme and a specific constellation already.

Id' be happy with just some warband rules (I dunno why they weren't in the first book), unique magic tree (seriously, Slann were suppose to be the best mages in WHFB until Nagash came back and they then got buffed in space yet they're nothing compared to Nagash and Lord of Changes rape them).

Ah I'm just be entitled. I'm happy with what we got. I'm never gonna finish my army anyway.
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>>54012239
Yeah I think the vanguard hunters kind of suffer by being these fully armored guys meant to be super agile and sneaky.
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>>54012239
Aren't the Reivers the Not!Scouts of the Primaris? So they're replacing Scouts eventually? Can they have Sniper rifles?
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>>54012390
I don't think they can use snipers currently. But I mean if GW are going to replace them they'll get the rifles eventually.
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>>54012431
Shame. Some of the rules for 40k stuff have been silly. Still, the Primaris models bar the jetpack ones have been OK to great. So now we're missing (releases of, we've seen some of them)

>Primaris Intercessor/Hellblaster kit
>Primaris Inceptor/Aggressor kit
>Primaris Overlord Flyer
>Primaris Repulsor
>Gravtank Primaris Redemptor Dreadnought >Primaris Apothecary

>Grand Cultivator
>Mortarion Plague
>Nurgle Corrupted Vindicator(?) Tank

There are some unknown/unseen fully additional kits. There is apparently a 4th box for Primaris, of infantry, I suspect Assault Marines analogues. There is also Death Guard shit, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Nurgle Havoc type stuff. Slow shit with big guns kinda thing.


Where is that female Stormcast Eternal model coming out? What's her name?
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Can you give Vanguard hunters a 2h weapon from the liberators? Not rules-wise, but like kitbash-wise

>>54012324
Yeah I really like their concept, but their models just don't convey their fantasy. If only they had given them like Leather boots and gloves and partial scale mail like the Knight Heraldor. The helmet and chest piece is fine and the cloak as well, but now they are just liberators with cloaks and a diff helmets.
>>54012390
They're more like the Legion Reaver squads. Sneaky-Beaky Terror Squads who kill targets behind enemy lines.
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>>54012301
Like so?
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>>54012613
Awesome fucking sauce. Could you do one where their skull masks are black? Though I do notice it's a 4chan filename; did you get it from another thread or did you do it?

If the latter, good job!
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>>54012585
That's still cool. I guess they're no longer manlets, Scouting isn't really possible. Plus I doubt Scout Squads are needed anyway.

>>54012613
Nice if you did this, as >>54012739 said, black face masks would be neat. Shame these don't have Blood Angel stylising. Both DA and SW need theirs too.

Also, what happens with Grey Knights? Do they get Grey Knight Primaris?
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>>54012739
>>54012763

Did a separate layer with a hue-mask on the armour, so I can hotswap for most chapters.

Got a BSOD right after I posted so I only have the darker flesh tearers version I was working on

Black maske don't work very well with the layer but here's the shoop.
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>>54012813
Thanks. That looks better. That'll do I guess. Looks very Necrony. I'm not sure. Blood Angels aren't Blood Angels without bling. It's a real shame there is no upgrade kits.

I think the BA with white masks looks better. Problem is, Apothecaries are gonna be white helmed and they're getting a model soon. It's why I wanted black done.

I might just paint it all red desu, if I had to do it. But I think I'll wait until BA, DA and SW upgrade kits. Blood Angels need bling to break up with Red.

Primaris DA and SW look amazing cause they're colours are subtler.
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>>54012864
S'why flesh tearers are best BA variant

Red everywhere is a awful scheme, actually manages to be worse than red w yellow trim.
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>>54011158
I decide to join Tzeentch for a while because all the Tzaangor range + new LoC really make me smile
And the new Changling looks sweet as

But i long for a dedicated Vampire or Lich BT
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>>54012585
>Can you give Vanguard hunters a 2h weapon from the liberators? Not rules-wise, but like kitbash-wise
Yes, the kits are fairly compatible. Maybe you'll need to shave off a little here or there, but nothing major.
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>>54012864
Heads + Shoulderpads should still be compatible. Should get you a link way.
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>>54013014
Great, now the great search for bits can begin.
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>>54012813
Oh, oh, could you do them in dark purple with a bright orange left arm?
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>>54013050
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>>54013103
>>54013103
Thanks a lot, mate. Much appreciated.
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>>54013103
That doesn't look half bad. I'd probably go with a darker orange, but overall the combination is fairly neat.
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>>54004272
I love this little guy
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>>54013103
Huh, I might nab that scheme for my Kharadron.
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>>54012813
Ravenguard? Black armor, white arms and helmet, I mean.
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>>54013103
Could you do 4th Company Raven Guard?

>>54012882
Red everywhere is awful without stuff to break it up. These models are some of the best GW has done. They're broken up with bling.
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>>53985779
Skaven are truly the height of GW's humor.
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>>54013263
Ogres did it first, Hell 40k Orks have had squigparrots since the 80's
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>>54013263
>not Lizardmen being ancient aliens stargate things
>where GW tell people to act like Pepe by "grabbing their chin and going 'Ah just as expected!'"

Skaven are great though. Can't wait to kill them in Warhammer Total War 2 with my Lizzies.
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>>54013210
Isn't there a fucking 40K thread you can post this shit in?
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>>54013362
Yup, I'm migrating it now,
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>>54013362
>multiple people talk about 40k
>you just pick on one lad instead of the dozens of other posts

why? bit rude desu.

>>54013352
Realm Gates are basically Star Gates now. Slann are like the Asgard. Just turn up and go "lol you did wrong". The Warhammer map of Lustria looks great, having some actual designs of temples and shit will allow for better design of my board.
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>>54006227
I'm never going to paint my 300 zombies and skellies
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>>54013388
REEEE GO TO WHFB! STOP TALKING ABOUT TRADITIONAL GAMES!
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>>54013388
They can all fuck off, no need to come here and salt us.
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>>54006227
That's what I did. Now I just have 100's of Seraphon to paint and I haven't even gotten all the new models. My old Carnosaur is pretty useless too. I guess I could call it a baby Carnosaur? But that doesn't work any more since they're magic. Then again, they DO act like real things. As long as the Slann is alive and doesn't dismiss it, it's perma and acts like a real being. So a Slann makes a Carnosaur egg, watches it hatch for Star Autism and it grows? Fucking Seraphon fluff is so fucking odd.

>Razordons and Salamanders are raised and trained by Skinks! They sometimes die!
>But they are fucking star shit so how does that work?

Speaking of which, aren't Razordons pretty useless outside of protecting a flank? That Fly spell + Salamanders = BURN. Shame Dwarf Flame Cannons are superior.

>>54013404
Least it keeps the thread bumped lad. He's gone now.
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>>54012239
>>54012613
>>54012739
>>54012763
>>54012864
>>54012882
>>54013050
>>54013103
>>54013145
>>54013168
>>54013192
>>54013206
>>54013210
Y'alls can find me in the /40k/ general if you have more requests.
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>>54013488
No posts for the next 2 hours in this thread.
>>54013404
>>54013362
Where the fuck is your great content for this thread?
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>>54014288
8-10 EST is a weird time for aosg.

Europeans are going to sleep, east coast NA is waking up, and west coast NA is still asleep.
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>>54014332
Europeans are at work*
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something something dark elves were really popular and got blasted into worthless mini factions something something.

glorious return of Malekith when?
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>>54014684
something something it's Elf whining something something for the 500th time something something this general is really shit something something.
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>>54014717
go paint your blimps in the proper color scheme to receive your port bonus.
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>>54014743
joke's on you, i don't play squats
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>>53996124
The skull is pretty big, I dont have it to hand right now but its about 38mm, what were you planning on using it for?
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>>53965086
deader the a door nail in my city, even our GW store owner has pretty much given up trying to push it. People have armies, but no one plays it. Only persons i see play it are literally like these 3 14, 15 year old kids that make shit up as they go.

The biggest complaint i keep hearing, the story is crap, and no one really gets into it.
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>>54014848
>This is the reply where I use anecdotal evidence to make my opinion look more believable even though I'm on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
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>>54014684
>>54014717
something something faggot posts that star trek meme every thread again something something
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>>54014902
>Ignoreing the fact i say that this is at my store and no where do i suggest this is the norm for every where
Here is your (you)
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>mfw i live an hour away from Warhammer World.
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>>54014743
how did that mass debate about this end?
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>>54007699
I'm not a good painter, I just do what I can for fun, but I have a couple of Liberators on clear bases. Hopefully it gives you an idea of what to expect.
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>>54014743
fuck

off

blood

elf

nigger
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>>54015067
End? it never ended. Everyone just got bored and moved on.
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>>54015372
fair enough. I thought it ended with everyone saying paint it what you like just ask if its ok with whomever your playing with
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>>54012239
>not using celestial lions scheme primaris marines for both your AOS and 40k armies
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>>54015407
This is what rational and non-autistic people agree with
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>>54015474
so the vast majority then? no doubt some grognard with his net deck would disagree tho.
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>>54015559
Theres an autistic shitposter obsessed with blood elves that lurks here and insists on being unreasonable
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>>54015574
How do I achieve that aesthetic blonde?
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>>54015574
>insists on being unreasonable
more like pointed out RAW and pissed off waacfags who didn't like it.

>>54015805
>How do I achieve that aesthetic blonde?
I had never played wow before but seems like they stole the witch elf theme for their "blood elves".
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>>54015930
Scythes > swords

Your wife is ugly

Kill yourself
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>>54015930
Teach me your secrets

I want my elves to be worth it
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>>54016040
its no secret. This is the only good formation for elves. I recommend darkshards for battleline. Fair warning though, its never going to be as good as anything released since the launch of AOS, but if you really want to do elves this is one way to not fail horribly.
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>>54015930
Might want to throw some shade on those models, colors are a bit flat imo.
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>>54016006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQPfJahmt1A
does my video trigger you?
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>>54016351
Damn nigga, you really can't paint for shit, can you?
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>>54016360
like I have the time to paint better? some of us have jobs you know.
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>>54016402
> I have a job
> That's why I do a shitty job at all other things

Just how much of a pleb are you?
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>>54016427
not all of us can live in our mom's basement like you and collect disability for being obese.
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>>54016693
I'd rather live with my mum then brag about my math job on 4chan to hide the fact I have 0 artistic talent.
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>>54016693
>>54016875
Guys it's just a game about toy soldiers ok.
>>
>>54016402
youve been painting these elves for like 6+ months

how much more time do you need before you start painting better than that garbage
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>>54017420
what makes you think I have worked on them since then?

models assembled: check
models painted in uniform scheme: check
models based: check

good enough for me fellas.
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>>54017607
>your paint job sucks
>WELL I DONT HAVE UNLIMITED TIME LIKE YOU NEET FAGGOTS
>how much time do you need
>WHO SAID I WAS SPENDING TIME ON THESE MODELS???

Fuck right off bucko
>>
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/26/generals-handbook-2017-june26gw-homepage-post-3/

What's your opinion on this?
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Confirmed but no date stated yet.

Allegiance abilities for certain forces like Seraphon and Slaaneshi Hosts sounds interesting.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/26/generals-handbook-2017-june26gw-homepage-post-3/
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>>54017858
>seraphon allegiance
>nighthaunt allegiance
>new battleplans
>new rule of one
Fuck yes I'm so glad I didn't sell my lizards
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>>54017852
>Highlights include rules for siege warfare
>new rules of one
>new Allegiance Abilities
>Slaanesh mentioned
Oh boi, I hope they will not fuck this up. We are waiting for new stuff for so long give me some shit for skaven you GW fuckers
>>
>Start Collecting: Greenskinz
>doesn't contain any greenskinz other than Orruks
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ITS HAPPENING!!!

Please let pestilens be good. PLEASE
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>>54017852
>>54017858
its going to take some really out of the box allegiance abilities for factions like this to be anything other than a joke.
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I'm testing out a scheme for my Tzeentch on these three Silver Tower Tzaangors. Could I get some opinions?
I'm not sure how to go about highlighting metallics though. Should I just get a lighter shade of silver/ gold and highlight the edges like normal? Or is there a better way?

Also, any suggestions on how I should base these? I'm not sure if I want them to just have the same general foresty bases as my Sylvaneth.
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>>54017999
Pestilens has it worse. We only have two infantry units with one of them being garbage
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>Seraphon allegiance

Time to dust off my old army I suppose!
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>>54017999
>implying that GHB2 release will be not followed by death release
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Post yfw GW will merge the most flaked factions and give us new index-like Compendiums for non-battletome factions
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>>54018154
Nah they wont do that

They already started reboxing them

>and give us new index-like Compendiums for non-battletome factions
We already have those? They're on the GW website
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>>54018071
>death release
Kek
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>>54018393
Shh Anon, let the man dream
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>>54018071
Nurgle release is imminent, given the events of 40k

Its interesting that they are giving Slaneesh and Nighthaunt allegiance abilities. Makes me wonder when we'll see the aelves (their story is tied to slaneesh) and if the rumoured Deathrattle battletome is still on its way to line up with the Shadespire release
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>>54019286
>>54019286
>>54019286

Migrate to new realm
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>>54012567
Angharad Brightshield, coming out with Shadespire IIRC, whenever that will be.
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