Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1560: True Goddess Reincarnation Edition

If you import your giant robot somewhere after Super Robot Wars does Battler G update it's power armor?

Law or Chaos jumpers?

>>53815145
Law, chaos is nice but if you have no laws at all things get messy.

Does anyone else have a bad case of villain sympathy syndrome? I have a hard time hating villains if they have a good reason/motivation or at least one that's human and understandable.

What's the best fish race in the chain?

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Are there any dragons in the show charmed?

>>53815176
All the time but that might be because I also become a villain a lot.

>>53815145
how about'a Third option because both of them end in bullcrap?

you're stuck with either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq5sZPPF9ao

or https://youtu.be/HJNz2QgSNsk

>>53815182
Probably the race in WoW that looks like a koi fish, I thought someone was making a leviathen jump, they even posted a pretty far along Wip a year back. That would have been nice.

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>>53815145
Chaos for life.

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>>53815176
Yeah, though I'm a sappy idealist who wants to believe there's the potential for good in everyone I meet. That for every demented asshole with a god complex there's a good man or woman buried inside. I think the most important thing to keep in mind is that everyone could be a good person, but not everyone is a good person, and you have to treat people as they are and exist. Sometimes you have to mourn that friendship that won't be or the good person who didn't have a chance to exist. I have to get companions who are better are fighting villains than me since I have issues on my own.

>>53815148
>living under the tyranny of YHWH and hoping for the best
>not letting everyone strike out on their own and having the best survive and thrive
You're not planning for success there

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>>53815145
Chaos, I guess. If only because it's hard being lawful when the laws keep change every decade.

>>53815182
Surya, from Eclipse Phase. By far the coolest.

But if you want sea-dwelling fish, instead of some that swim in the sun's corona or other places... Exalted's Siaka are giant sharks that'll suffice until we get a Jaws jump, or maybe a prehistoric fish from Jurassic Park...

Or the aquatic races in Aquaria/the Murlocs from WoW, if those count.

>>53815145
Conceptual absolutes are bullshit. Self-contradictory at best, self-destructive at worst. Not. Even. Once.

So, can anyone explain to me what Dormant Powers does? Does taking it without any capstones mean you're actually more powerful than you are with all of them?

Fellow jumpers! What's the most depressing jump you can think of? I want to get this new chain started off right.

>>53815427
Nechronica probably. Literally everything in the world is dead as dead can be. The air is stagnant, flora and fauna are completely nonexistent, even volcanos have gone inactive. Any form of normal natural activity you can imagine is done. The only thing left are zombie little girls made by a necromancer who may or may not have caused this cataclysmic end to the world with the explicit purpose of watching them wander about the dead world in terror and despair as they have to fight other zombies.

>>53815427
sonichu,Jack Chick,1984,dark souls

>>53815262
You misunderstand, My evil is Law. Not someone elses.

>>53815462
That's just chaos though.

>>53815472
Chaos is the absence of laws, I would put what I am talking about more on the side of order.

>>53815516
Nope. The law of anyone that isn't YHWH in the SMTverse is just considered chaos.

>>53815516
Your original post made it sound like you were abolishing all law and having the world become some kind of survival of the fittest thing.

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Current jumper!you suddenly appears before you and offers to make you one of their regular 8 companions and take you in an adventure through the multiverse.

The only catch (aside from not being the jumper and thus not being in charge of the chain) is that you will never be imported. The only stuff they will be able to give to you is stuff that they are capable and willing to teach and/or pass (such as technology, bestowable powers and magic that can be taught).

Would you accept this proposal?

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>>53815735
Yeah, probably. I'll be bummed out about not getting certain things most everyone else would be able to get, but my Jumper as they currently exist has access to all sorts of gene therapy technologies and abilities at his finger tips and is an excellent teacher that has already taken on a few disciples in one fashion or another. As far as conditions go, that one's not severe at all in my context.

>>53815145
Fuck Law and Chaos, acquire demon waifus and become a warlord.
Become the Law!

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>>53815735
Fuck. No. I know jumper me, and jumper me is an arsehole. I'd be better off if I was forced to go on an adventure with Rance.

>>53815145
Neutral. It's the best of the paths, Law and Chaos are for people who want to be enslaved by YHVH and Lucifer, respectively.

>>53815735
Heck yes.

>>53815735
I'd accept, but I'd tell them to knock it off with all the fucking drawbacks.

>>53815735
The conflict of this hypothetical is meaningless for any jumper with Sacrificial Bestowal, because we could easily become the equal of our jumper and their companions, if only they shove a worm in our brains though our eyeball and make us train in a hyperbolic time chamber for a thousand years.

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>>53815801
>Implying you can escape a Jumper with charisma and beauty perks

It was already decided since the moment you laid eyes on him.

>>53815804
Neutral is always just 'the status quo' route though. No meaningful change.

>>53815176
Does "want to fuck female villains" count? I think a lot of people have that.

>>53815735
Am I not going to be imported because Jumper!me can't import me, or because he won't import me? That's a big difference. If he can't because of this scenario, fine. I'll go with. If he won't, though, if he just refuses to spend any of his precious CP on me instead of his other companions...well, then the man has no respect for me. Which makes sense, I've got a lot of self-loathing, I'm not sure I'd value pre-jumper me all that much. But I'm not going to go traveling the multiverse with an asshole like that, it would just lead to me growing slowly more and more resentful until I wind up doing something crazy in an attempt to become more powerful than him so he has to acknowledge that I have value and meaning.

>>53815835
But would your Jumper be willing to go through that tedious process for a much younger self?

>>53815841
Yeah, so? The "meaningful change" that the other two routes offer are humanity being enslaved through mind control or raw force. There is no route in which humanity wins, the best you can hope for is the one where we break even.

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Since it's early in the thread, here's my progress on Divinity: Original Sin. Barter is done and there's been a few very minor tweaks to discounts. Magic is coming along with Air Magic completely finished and Earth Magic done except for one spell.

>>53815735
I'd probably say no. Current jumper!me has already been to a lot of the universes I would be really excited to visit just to wander around in and his Coordinators are making the future look unpleasant.

That said, jumper!me would be very willing and capable to teach just about anything they already know, so not getting imported wouldn't be as bad as it sounds. I could hang out at the Hot Springs Hotel and craft Kamen Rider devices with Santa.

So, tough choice, but eventual no I think.

>>53815857
It's not all that tedious for the jumper... It's ridiculously so for the recipient, but it only requires a bit of time to rest from the jumper's perspective.

>>53815858
Not necessarily. There are alternative Chaos and Law routes where Humanity isn't enslaved by Law for example, only eradicated wholesale, and Chaos worlds where humanity isn't enslaved to any individual master, but at the mercy of whatever demon is strongest and happens to be nearby. If you just made humans into their own faction that could stand together against the demons but would not capitulate to YHWH, you would technically be Chaos.

>>53815176
All the time. Not even if they have good motivations. I just sympathize with them out of spite. Because villains want to make the world their own, and struggle to prove their worth and value, while heroes just get power dropped into their laps. And that's not always a bad thing, many heroes deserve the power that fate has given them. I don't begrudge Superman his strength. But there are a lot of characters that I just hate for being the protagonists, and would love to see them fail.

>>53815735
Of course I would join my Jumper, as they have Charisma EX and Golden Rule (Body) EX so I would follow them blindly. Plus even if I do not get imported my Jumper always makes sure to give his companions as many powers as possible, which means I will still be almighty!

>>53815857
Yeah, my jumper does that kind of thing all the time for their minions. My greatest fear to be honest is that I'll be waifued so I won't get any of the cool/dangerous powers they have in tap.

>>53815910
Wouldn't waifus get the best powers so they do not get harmed?

>>53815907
Most heroes are garbage because they are powerful for no other reason than to foil the villain. They do and achieve nothing of their own initiative or by their own merits, which the villain usually does, but it's always the villain that loses. It tells a very bad moral lesson.

>>53815895
>If you just made humans into their own faction that could stand together against the demons but would not capitulate to YHWH, you would technically be Chaos.
No, humanity standing together against the forces of hell and heaven is still Neutral. Chaos is every man for himself, it would only be Chaos if humanity was ruled by whoever among them is the strongest. A group that's unified and self-governing, while still allowing for personal freedoms, is Neutral.

>>53815735
Definitely. While not as good as being the jumper, being a high tech cyborg warrior subservient to an evil lunatic still beats my current life.

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>>53815839
>It was already decided since the moment you laid eyes on him.
I know. Stupid Sexy Jumper Magic Nazi Me.

>>53815869
So, what was the Original Sin?

>>53815931
It's not even that I dislike the "ambition is evil" moral, because plenty of times the heroes have ambitions of their own. It's more that I dislike how they aren't really working for their ambition. They just drift through life and are rewarded for little more than being the protagonist. Villains struggle, villains innovate, and while they often do horrible things, villains aren't passive. They have seen the fate the world would hand them, decided they don't want it, and set out to make their own. And don't get me wrong, I'm not doing some bullshit edgelord "villains are the real heroes" nonsense. Well-written heroes can make the exact same choice, and do. Hell, you can have well-written heroes who don't do that, who are reactive forces, and still come across as relatable. But you never see it in bad writing, there the hero wins "just because". I hate it.

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>>53807383
Drawback: Hard Mode (1200)

Weird Guy, Lost Tail (1000)

Ghosts In Flight (Free)
PSI: Offensive (Free)
Center Stage (Free)
Whackjob (900)
Nightmare Empower (700)
King of the World (400)
Shades (Free)
Baseball Cap (300)
Mothership (0)

He didn't even bother to hide himself.

When the new Magicant crash landed near my old Magicant, there was a big HERE BE NIGHTMARES black arrow, with carnival lights around it. I found him shuffling papers in a pokemon gym.

Well, here I am. Do your worst, me.

"Yeah, about that" said the looming expanse of static. "I've been reading my predecessors' notes on you. That's part of the problem-I've had a LOT of predecessors. You know how this farce goes, right? I tell you there's a bit of chaos in your soul, you tell me you'll use it to fuel your order, I tell you your sins will never be forgiven, you tell me you're at peace with that..." he trailed off.

I. Well, I don't quite know what to say.

He slumped. "That's hurtful, man. My whole existence is a rerun, so why should I even try to be unique enough to give you some helpful revelation? Let's just get this over with. Dance fight, you and me"

If it's any consolation, I try to reassure him, you're more self aware than any of them.

...

...halfway through the ultimate dancefight of ultimate destiny, I realised something. Hey, I asked, as I popped, locked, and god-machined. Hey, you're my DOUBT AND INDECISION given form aren't you?!

"ZING! You just got Nightmare'd!" he shouted, doing the multdimensional worm. "Give up Jumper, you will never match this level of style!"

And why's that?

"BECAUSE EVERY DAY I'M SHUFFLING!"

And he's right. Our bomb moves are evenly matched. Our flip level is maximumer.

Five subjective minutes later, Ann proudly presented my stolen heart to me. To his credit, my Nightmare was a graceful loser and just turned off the dream-camera recording our dancefight before imploding with a bow.

(Cont'd)

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>>53816012
Anyway, back in the real world, a bunch of alien oddballs found my avatar having a nap in a field.

Another discrepency catches my attention-Porky. As I explained my portal technology, I balefired his body from across time and space, leaving his consciousness a helpless witness to infinity. He squealed even before samsara started reshuffling realiy.

So it wasn't long until it was time to fight Giegue. Futaba and Alinivar bonded over just wanting the whole thing over with, Ann made Colonel Saturn increasingly quirky hats to wear atop his own hat and Makoto gave Zarbol and Larice a few well-needed peptalks. Together, they made one funky band.

Things between Niiue and me were a little more awkward:

"So, you uh...you've been to the timeline where the...other me realised his full power?"
Yep. Not gonna lie-you give me the heebie jeebies
"I'm so sorry, I can't even imagine what it was like"
Well, I could show you
"...I think I'll pass"

>"You're here already?! Well, it's too late! Because I'm STILL your better half!"
>GIEGUE
>The Universal Cosmic Destroyer!
>Giegue used Incomprehensible Zap and Inexplicable Jolt!
>Your party held on to their hopes and dreams, reducing damage
>"You know, seeing you all here-I don't care about winning this war anymore! I just want to punish you all for your cursed emotionality!"
>Giegue used Insanity Fog!
>Through determination, the dream dissipated!
>"Wait. This power...so like my own, and yet so bright! What is this..."
>Giegue used Unnatural Wave!
>But your party refused!
>"ENOUGH!"
>Giegue began preparing an incomprehensible attack.
>It's the end
>Niiue...made the ultimate sacrifice
>And began to re-fuse
>"NO! WAIT, STAY BACK. I'M NOT READY-"
>"I'm sorry. It has to be this way"
>Your party tried to steal his heart before it was too late
>Giegue's memories of his mother are resonating
>It's over
>VICTORY!
>+450 XP
>+1 Child Giegue

>>53815922
Not necessarily. My waifus get stuff that compliments my own and each other's abilities at every opportunity, so usually crafting, enchanting, research, and general leadership perks. They each get to lead and are protected by a platoon of their own clones, robots, and monsters to do with what they please. That said, they do get a lot of cool stuff, they just don't get any of the legitimately world shattering powers because they don't actually need them.

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[Charmed]

Drawbacks: Stalker with magic and evil, Psycho cop with magic and friends, Death Takes A Vacation, The Comic Is Canon (1800)

Rolled San Francisco

Neutral, Witch, age 26 (1600)

Dabbler (Free)
Music (Free)
Ye Olde Wisdom (1500)
Power of Three (1300)
No Such Thing As Magic (Free)
Charmed Success (Free)
Three Hands Work As One (1200)
Family Tree (Free)
Mansion (1100)
Book of Shadows (900)
Imitation Waffediyok (600)
Hollow Mist (0)

Conjuring the Elements (0)
-Elemental Power: Umbrakinesis, photokinesis, pyrokinesis, electrokinesis, cryokinesis, aerokinesis (Free)
-Optic Blast (Free)
-Utility (Free)
-Particle Swarm (Free)
-Lethal Conjuration (200)
-Wave (0)

Memories: All preserved

I stared at the forces of good. They were set in their ways, and irrationally harsh.

I stared at the forces of evil. They were set in their ways, and irrationally harsh.

I stared at the forces of neutrality-you get the idea.

Once again, Death seemed like the only sane being in the universe. The psychopomp work at least was rewarding enough I offered to do it full time. A lot of dead souls didn't like the hand they were dealt by life. And that settled it.

Angels and demons cried out, as within the House That Is Not I hammered impossibility into potentiality. Fair Eyes and Makoto forged Self Determination, while Y- and Sulumor crafted Understanding. Del danced in the space between molecules to spread Delight, while Elune shone until Arcanism took root. And together, Didi and Secret made the Afterlife a place of comfort.

During the new universe's grand opening, I gave but one commandment: All ye who enter, do unto others only what you would have others do unto you.

And then I had tea with a nice old lady who never quite liked the retiring home her family had left her in, before chaperoning her to her final resting place.

>>53815145
Law for LYFE.

>inb4 Lucifer comparisons

Hey, just trying out a more moderate version of the Yosuga template here!

>>53815184
I didn't know Bolas was a Steven Universe fan

>>53815543
Im not in smt anymore.

>>53815552
Well I didnt mean that.

>>53816070
>>I stared at the forces of good. They were set in their ways, and irrationally harsh.
>
>I stared at the forces of evil. They were set in their ways, and irrationally harsh.
Ehh. Have you actually watched Charmed? The forces of Good can be assholes sometimes, but Evil is objectively in the wrong. They are basically all murderhobos wanting to kill either for pleasure, power, or both.

>>53815735
>offers to make you one of their regular 8 companions
>you will never be imported
I thought being a regular companion meant you regularly get imported.

Also I'm pretty sure we both would have the same waifu while being extremely possessive, so no.

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>>53816084
He is a massive steven universe fan, he has a gemsona and everything

>>53816152
No, that's his sister, Niclole Bolas

>>53816134
Not him but he has a bit of a point, good punishes you for stupid stuff but usually not lethal punishment.

Evil just fucks everyone over. Its a weird universe.

Either way I agree with you that good is not really harsh so much as stupid.

>>53816142
Regular in this context I believe means "you'll never get benched in the warehouse"

>>53816161
No thats the Gem Golden Amber Diamon, leader of 12 planets and Empress of 5 peoples. Also third cousin of steven from the show.

>>53816180
I hate you so much right now.

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>>53815937
>A group that's unified and self-governing, while still allowing for personal freedoms, is Neutral

...hang on a minute, that's the Devil Survivor 1 ending and-in a twisted way, sure, but still-2/3 Reasons

>>53815735
...uh.

I ask jumper!me for some time to think on that, because on the one hand I know about his infamous damn charisma/causality distortion antics. And on the other hand, I ALSO know that if he exists, and therefore his chain's metaphysics are real, then there are worse fates than sticking with him.

I mean, he's inevitably going to convince me if he's really motivated to anyway but still. Gotta ask.

>>53815176
Depends on the villain, really. That last about sums it up for me, actually-except I also find a lot of nonhuman reasons perfectly understandable.

>>53815182
Magikarp, maybe?

They grow up to be Gyarados after all

>>53816134
Oh I agree. I meant more building a new universe somewhere I don't have to deal with their bickering is still better by far.

Death seems alright though, he can be the ambassador to the Charmedverse if he wants.

>>53816152
>gemsona

It all makes sense now, White Diamond is Bolas

>>53815182
https://youtu.be/H3x3-22Gi3g

Obviously magikarp.

In SMT, what do the stats mean and why are the numbers so much bigger in some of the games? Asking because I'm looking at the wiki and wondering if it makes any difference for the Demon race selection.

>>53816235
Generally what they say on the tin. Strength is strength, mana is how much magic they can make go boom etc

And there's no reason why, they just rebalance the demons from time to time.

>>53816180
That's obviously Lucatiel's brother.

>>53815963
See post #53534478 in thread found:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/53527465/#53534478

>>53815182
Murlocs.

>>53816235
The highest stats go in SMT 1 is 40 at max, and in SMT IV, they go over 200 and can get to 999 if I'm remembering right, so I'd err on assuming that the conversion ratio is like 1 to 5 for how they're valued.

>>53815735
Current Jumper... Yeah, he is an evil asshole but he usually cares about most of his companions.

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>>53815735
First I wonder when my life became bad enough or doomed enough that the Destroyer of Worlds would take pity on me. I mean, look at his normal criteria for companions.

Anyways while he keeps being an eldritch moron I happily get to studying magic he's willing to teach, and spend time with the non-waifu companions like Asgore and Asriel. It's not perfect and I'd feel awkward with all the attention the Jumper gets, but if I have magic, access to literature and coffee, I'd be content.

I just hope things like Hyde and Bernkastel don't try to see me as an easy proxy target.

>>53816000
Have you been reading A Practical Guide To Evil?

Hey, with the new God of War being made, is there a chance of a new jump for it?

>>53816610
No. I hear it's good, though.

>>53816634
"The heroes don't deserve to win" is one of the motivating factors for the main villains.

>>53816623
It's not even out yet. No one has a clue of much of the setting or story details.

>>53816686
It's a question of if it's even a possibility, we know that it's very different from the originals though, like a completely different setting.

>>53816623
The huge time jump alone makes Dad of War being a jump possible.

Can the Forge of Souls from God of War be used to infuse multiple energies into metal at the same time?

>>53816736
>>53816704
How about we just wait for the fucking thing to even come out before we start talking on it. It's still months away.

Are there any jumps with swords that are also guns?

>>53816785
RWBY, Worm and most of the Final Fantasies from 8 onwards

>>53816793
Worm has gun swords?

>>53816762
>start talking on it.
Why not?
There isn't an argument going on.
No one is shitposting about it.
A person was just wondering if it is 'possible'. Not if it will or will not happen.
People like to speculate about things. That's how a lot of science fiction novels got made.

>>53816824

Chevalier can overlap similar things and cherry pick the best combination of properties.

So he has a foam sword for lightness, a gigantic one for mass, an ultra-sharp one (which is never actually used, so it never loses its edge), a cannon-blade, etc, etc.

Can't remember if he needs to reload the cannon-blade - might be that the base reloads the linked blade.

>>53816853
Is there any way to get that?

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>>53807383
Today, I'm going to do something a bit...
Different.

Mother: Cognitive Dissonance
> Background: Weird G(al)
> Race: Lost Tail [-200CP]
> Ghosts in Flight [Get a Freebie!]
> PSI: Offensive [Get a Freebie!]
> Let’s Be Friends, Okay? [-200CP]
> Perfectly Safe Science [-600CP]
> Center Stage [Get a Freebie!]
> (Wisd̡òm)̕ o͡f tḩę W̴or̀l͟d̷ [-300CP]
> Shades [Get a Freebie!]
> Mothership [-300CP]
> I Wish I Had A Speedhack [+100CP]
> Hard Mode [+200CP]
> Cognitive [+300CP]

"Picked up that avoiding consequences perk, huh? Any reason?"
No.

Because I'm certain many people have never heard of CogDis, I thought I'd take the opportunity to talk about it at length, just a bit, because I was basically a story consultant while Heavens wrote this.
Not that Heavens doesn't know the story, but I devoured every scrap of supplemental material and downloaded the game engine so that I could pick through the code.
Because I am an obsessive crazy person.

"It's okay to care about things, you know."
NO.

Anyway, CogDis is a fangame for the Mother series (ie; Earthbound) made in RPGMaker 2k3, meant to act as a bridge between the official games. Because of this, it won't really make sense if you don't know those games, and is tailored for fans of it.
It's pretty rough around the edges, for reasons that should be fairly obvious, but it's got a good heart.

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>>53816918
For the sake of providing an (extremely truncated) understanding of the story, the plot of the game is thus:
Just after the events of the first MOTHER game, Giegue the Universal Cosmic Destroyer agonizes in his ship over his failure to conquer Earth due to his human emotions. In his increasingly volatile state, he attempts to separate himself from those emotions, and sets out on a quest to gather the shards of the Apple of Enlightenment which foretells of his rise to ultimate power. Joining him are a couple quirky commanders, his army of Starmen, and a mysterious greyfaced human from seemingly nowhere with a bevy of Earth followers who call themselves "The Pigsnout Society".
Giegue is not the protagonist.

He is not the hero.

"But that doesn't mean his feelings aren't important."
shut up shut UP

The protagonists are the Applechasers, a group of unlikely aliens who band together to find the Apple of Enlightment before Giegue does, directed by Niiue, a weird looking member of Giegue's race who seems to have a mysterious connection to Giegue.
The game follows them as they make their way through the planets of the solar system on their junky UFO, meeting other aliens and acquiring power as they attempt to combat Giegue.
This concludes the teaser. But since most of you will probably never play this game, the spoiler portion continues on.

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Giegue completes his journey, despite the hero's best efforts.
The Greyface'd human, revealed to be Porky, is beaten into a permanent retreat, but the protagonists are forced to flee into the future using one of his stolen time machines in order to escape Giegue's wrath. With nothing left to stop him, Giegue takes all the gathered pieces of the Apple of Enlightenment and sequesters himself, locked off from all contact, in order to hear its prophecy.
He doesn't take it well.
In the future, all is devastation, as Giegue's turmoil has spurred him to psychically mutilate himself to become Evil Power Giygas, an unstoppable eldritch horror beyond all thought and reason. The protagonists arrive in this broken future to find Niiue's future self waiting for them, who explains what happened. After final preparations, the heroes join with Niiue to enter the last remaining tatters of Giegue's mind, the only place where he might be vulnerable, and prepare to send one of their number back to the past to warn a chosen one, an Earth child of destiny who is fated to stop to Giygas across time.
In this final moment, it is revealed that Niiue is actually a manifestation of Giegue's mind, all his love and guilt, all those positive feelings and a heap of psychic energy that he has expelled from his mind.
Together, the remaining heroes walk into the darkness and try to reach Giegue one last time, hopeless though it may be.

>>53816853
Chevalier's sword being able to shoot cannon shells isn't due to his powers. Well, the finished product is, but the components were already cannon-blades. Chevalier's powers work better the closer in shape each of the things he fuses together are, so his gunsword is made of other gunswords. All the stuff with size and material weirdness comes from his overlapping them, but each individual blade can shoot bullets on its own. I'm not sure if the swords are tinkertech or just regular engineering that he can keep from breaking down because of his powers.

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>>53816955
"Well, I still think it's a nice story. And it has more than one ending."
It doesn't matter.

So, three posts later, time for what I DID.
For however interesting the rest of the solar system may be, Giegue is the one with access to all the best tech, factories, Starmen, robots, weaponry and ships, etc, etc. As a member of his race, it was easy to assume a role at his side, even if I didn't exactly do much. Giegue's hierarchy is honestly kindof loose.
Aside from studying, copying, and collecting all sorts of tech and gizmos, I also hung out with Porky a fair bit (the conniving little shit), and tried to get him to play video games with me, but he'd just bitch and refuse to play anymore unless I let him beat me. But only if I only let him win by just a little bit. He talked on and on about trivial shit, and eventually I had enough of him, although I did take the opportunity to copy his Spidermech before I left.
There was nothing else of note.

"You also tried to calm Giegue, even though he wouldn't listen. Even though you didn't know what to do, and the only thing you could think of saying was that it would be okay, that he didn't have to try so hard. You still tried."
It doesn't matter.
"He lashed out at you and you didn't turn away."

I left most of the plot to the rest of the cast, while picking up trinkets here and there. It was a nice vacation jump, to be honest.

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>>53816969
"You asked Porky if he regretted anything. If there was anything he'd do over. He laughed and said that was stupid. But afterward, he stopped talking to you so much, when he used to scurry around like he thought you were so cool. He wanted you to leave him alone after that, and you noticed."
It doesn't matter.
"That's why you left."

As for my "other half", I'm to understand she followed the Applechasers around, doing nothing in particular. A bunch of slice-of-life stories with them and my companions, culminating in completion of the tale.
What a load of fat. They hardly did anything. I left the plot to them.
While they did that, I got a lot done.
Nothing else happened.

"Except that's not true. You found a Repair Orb and copied it over and over. With them, you told Niiue how to save Giegue."
Stop it.
"You left items to help them all across their journey, and even though they could have done it without you, you still made their journey easier."
It doesn't matter. No, no. It doesn't matter.


Then, because you were worried, you went into their Magicant so you could help the final battle. Even though I was there. Even though it hurt you to be near.
"What are you Doing? StoP. It doesn't MaTter."
Even though they knew what to do, you stayed to help and heal them.
"iT DoesN't maTter."
It mattered to them.

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>>53816981
You left, and started building up another Starmen army. You didn't even know why, you just wanted something to do. You had to fill the void. You invaded planets because it was something to do. You stole things past the point of satiety, because you couldn't think of anything to do with your time.
"stop it... stop it..."
Eventually your companions, the protagonists, everyone came to stop you, like so many times before.
"... why do you exist...? it's not right, not right..."
And you were going to put on a show, like you always do. And pretend to lose. But it's just pretending.
Because nobody is really strong enough to stop you.
But you don't think villains should win.

And then, out of nowhere, without any provocation...
Giegue started singing.
"it's not right... it's not supposed to go this way..."

...
And then you ran away.

He sang because he was so happy.
Because you saved him. And he wanted you to know. Because it could have gone so many other ways.
And he wanted you to know it can still go so many ways.
And you don't have to try so hard.

... and you ran away.
And you didn't stop running, until your time here was over.

I've noticed that you leave a lot of these details out of your write-ups.
But they still matter to you.

>>53816997
Were the voices in the quotes and out of quotes supposed to switch?

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>>53817016
Yes.
It's supposed to represent one becoming stronger than the other.

>>53816907
That's what the Reverse Engineering Shard is for

>>53817055
No it isn't. That shard reverse-engineers Tinkertech, not Breaker abilities.

What happened to red eye black jumper?

>>53816907
Dark Contract

>>53816907
Just build it yourself. People need to stop thinking in terms of stealing or buying or copying powers when we have so many ridiculous magic and technology perks. Any power you want, you could probably build for yourself now. And with The Power Is Jumper's from Marvel Magic, that power could become fully integrated into you, too.

>>53817076
he ate an energy field bigger than his head?

>>53817136
But anon, that's a stupid answer to any question, because you basically just said 'don't bother with trying to do or get anything, because there are ways to do or get those things through alternative methods'. You can use that to as justification invalidate doing anything with any method.

Moreover, your solution is essentially 'just pretend like you're already capable of doing it rather than have the ability to actually do it' which is wank which is only allowed because no one brings it up in the thread. If you posted about that here, everyone would call you out on it because it wouldn't stand up to scrutiny, you only use it because you don't have to justify it to anyone but yourself.

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>>53816997
Ouch. There weren't a lot of other ways for that to end, huh? Your Jumper's Nightmare is pretty relentless. It was a good story, though. Your write-ups are always a treat to read.

Thanks again for helping me with this jump, it was a huge factor in finishing this up. I'll add the finishing touches once the coffee is in my bloodstream.

>>53816482
*Destroyer of Moons

FTFY

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>>53816918
>>53816997
>gaslighting yourself so hard you saved the day by betraying yourself
Wonderfully brutal! I didn't see THAT coming, but in hindsight. Of course it couldn't have gone that way.

...I'm sure I got a lot of details wrong on my end somewhere. I just had a barren wiki, a few vids on youtube and a tvtropes page to work with. All I got out of it was "it's sort of like Undertale but if Asriel split himself into Chara and Pacifist!Frisk, the adventuring party is a bunch of alien mooks and the final battle happens in a psychic world".

I never did figure out what a nice Gigue's future would be like. Would it be basically Superman's, where his race becomes super salty but can't really do anything because he's also pretty much the perfect specimen out of all of them?

I hope NEET or Bowser Jr. or someone was there to feed you magic gatorade or something while you were doing your cross-universe marathon

>>53817291
*gone any other way

>>53817236
No, I'm saying "freeform magic and invention abilities are an incredibly useful tool, and I don't know why we even offer them if no one is going to take advantage of them". Seriously, if inventing a spell or a gadget or whatever is just going to get you called a wanker, why do jumps offer the ability to do so? I'm not trying to start shit, I'm genuinely wondering. It seems like a waste. Jumpers have all this incredible power on-hand, and are neglecting it in favor of copying other powers that are completely redundant. I don't understand it.

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>>53815735
My jumper's pretty obsessive about being able to grant powers, so that's not much of a catch.
I just ask them to be gentle about it.

>>53817378
>I don't understand it.
Because open ended powers which can be wanked of doing anything aren't useful unless you're a horrendous powerwanker. Not even our worst powerwankers actually use them like that because of how vague the limits and capabilities of them are.

It's why perks are generally more specific in their wording these days for what perks and items can do, because if they aren't more defined, they can be abused to do ridiculous things far outside their scope, and those of us with smaller imaginations won't even know where to begin with them.

People generally restrict themselves to what canon characters are capable of doing even with open ended powers because using them for other things universally leads to a no limits fallacy.

Why would you bother wanking yourself raw over freeform magic and invention perks when you can just take the powers you want from people who already have them?

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>>53817291
Yeah, it's pretty obscure. I... prettymuch devoured everything surrounding this game over a period of two weeks, but to be fair there's not a lot to devour (other than 28 pages of forum posts that I read through completely because fandom hits you HARD).
You can honestly get a pretty good idea just through the TV Tropes page, but there is a complete video Let's Play if anyone is ever interested. Even covers all five/six of the endings.

You're honestly not THAT far off, although Niiue never re-fuses in the game. The "Good" ending is almost that, which uses PK Harmony to sync their minds, but this only brings him back to sanity temporarily, just long enough for Giegue to fix his own shit before effectively blamming himself out of existence. Once he's has transformed into Giygas, he's basically beyond saving. Too much power and concentrated torment and all, any attempt to fuse him and Niiue at that point just results in Niiue getting overwhelmed.
The way to save him effectively involves targeted psychic surgery to separate his "core" mind and personality ("Severence"), which manifests as a widdle baby Giegue, and is basically the same type of entity as Niiue. The mindless hatred and torment that is Giygas continues existing, and can be safely destroyed by Ness in the new timeline.

I really liked how self-aware your Nightmare was. Really, after the first few times, I think your subconscious would start to pick up on the pattern. It is YOUR subconscious, after all!

I guess I don't really understand the question. Do I just sit in a Stasis pod all the time? Or do I get to go into the world, but I don't benefit from perks?

As much as I'd be alright with taking a bow and arrow and a stone mask, that's about all I'd be getting out of the deal in my current chain. On the other hand, if we just went to young justice and grabbed Amazo's backup drive, I'd be set, since I could just work on tech all the time I'd definitely try to kill Jumper me and take all his powers with the Amazo tech. Don't know if that'd end my chain or not, probably would. It'd still be worth it, doubly so if I can take his place.

>>53817378
Please don't reply to the shitposter who replied to you first.

>>53817620
>>53815735
Whoops, forgot to quote like a retard

>>53817521
>Why would you bother wanking yourself raw over freeform magic and invention perks when you can just take the powers you want from people who already have them?
But I'm not talking about taking advantage of powers that are ambiguous to wank myself to whatever I want. I'm talking about powers that are defined, but are defined as being very versatile and powerful. Like, I totally agree with the whole "restrict to what canon characters are capable of doing" thing, but clever applications of those abilities can still lead to more or less anything you want if you put them together right. This isn't a case of "this magic system doesn't specifically say I can't, do this thing, so that means I can". It's a case of "hey, if I combine this spell, this technology, and a couple of metamagic perks I can make this really cool thing I want". I mean, isn't that a big draw of being a jumper? The ability to take powers and abilities from multiple worlds, and fuse them together into more than the sum of their parts? Instead, everyone seems to just focus on taking things wholecloth and leaving them as they are. I don't know, maybe I just like a different sort of fun than everyone else does.

>>53817629
I don't think it's shitposting. So far we seem to be arguing in good faith and just not understanding what the other person is saying. On both sides, too, I don't quite get what he's saying and (at least I don't think so) he's not getting what I'm saying.

>>53815735
Yeah, I always pick a lot of teaching perks in settings where I have an excess so I can save points on importing in settings where I don't.

>>53817673
The whole 'wank' thing has basically been a petty insult since the earliest days. He shows both his age and his desire to attack by using it.

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>>53817291
> I never did figure out what a nice Gigue's future would be like.
... sadly the game doesn't go into a lot of details about the future past Giygas's many possible defeats. The endings mostly exist as a means to set a mood more than answer any questions.

Bizarrely enough, though, it almost seems like Giegue's race doesn't seem to care much after the first invasion's failure.
They don't show up in Earthbound or Mother 3, and their presence in CogDis is pretty muted. Mostly they punish George and effectively erase Maria in a flashback, and then later in the present time one of them seems to regret Giegue having turned out the way he has.

It's entirely possible Giegue is layering a lot of self-hatred and vengeance upon himself due to his human mom dying because his human dad fucked things up so badly.
At any rate, he certainly doesn't seem to answer to anyone anymore. He's definitely top dog throughout the game.

Also, yeah, Neet was totally there to help out. She's one of those rare companions who always sticks by me, mostly because she's such a happy doormat.

>>53817243
No problem, Heavens! I had a lot of fun, and I'm glad to have helped make this jump a reality. You freaking CP vampire.

>>53816907
Thanatos

Or this: >>53817136.

>>53817236
Worm is a setting where every single thing every single character does is just ridiculously advanced alien biotechnology, and all of it follows the true laws of physics as known by the Entities. With enough science and bioengineering perks, you could create your own Shards.

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>>53816152
>>53816208
>It all makes sense now, White Diamond is Bolas

That reminds me, Jumpers, have you even encountered a character behind the scenes that belonged to another franchise?

>>53817805
Does it count if I drop them off myself? I dropped a Companion off on Avatar because she fell in love with the world, and met up with her again in Korra. She had some stories to tell.

>>53817673
>I don't know, maybe I just like a different sort of fun than everyone else does.
But you're responding to a question about how to get Chevalier's power with 'don't bother taking his power or coping his power, just invent your own version with magic' and providing no substation for why or how.

I'm not disparaging combos or creative use of perks and items to make cool stuff, but you have to acquire those things in the first place to use them like that, and what if anon wants to use Chevalier's Shard for a crafting project?

You're basically saying that no one should bother making or getting any powers or items from any setting because other settings exist where you can get alternatives. Okay? How? What's the point of your argument? How is that any better? Why wouldn't you just answer the question of how you can do the thing, rather then tell me that you can do the thing in another way, and act like that somehow invalidates the other methods which are more proven in any case?

If you want to mouth off about how you could totally build your own shards or whatever else so you don't even need to bother with taking anyone else's, that's fine, talk about how and explain how it's relevant to the conversation in the first place. Give a real answer to the question.

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Updated Honorverse, with a few drawbacks and some clarifications about the ships and properties in future jumps.

Will get back to work on Carmen Sandiego.

>>53817945
>You're basically saying that no one should bother making or getting any powers or items from any setting because other settings exist where you can get alternatives. Okay? How? What's the point of your argument? How is that any better? Why wouldn't you just answer the question of how you can do the thing, rather then tell me that you can do the thing in another way, and act like that somehow invalidates the other methods which are more proven in any case?
You know, honestly, you're right. I think that is what I'm arguing. I guess I just can't see the appeal in Jumpchain anymore, I'm paralyzed by choice with how many different ways I can do something. The reason I didn't say a specific means by which you could copy Chevalier is because there are so many ways. What makes any of them superior to the others? How do I maintain a core concept when I have so many options to accomplish anything I want to do? What's even the point of any specific jump when anything it offers you can be accomplished through other means? I don't even know anymore. Fuck it, power stealing is probably better, at least then you've got a specific mechanism you're using. You're not standing there going "okay, what magic system or set of technological principles should I use to do this thing" for every single thing. I guess when I said I like a different sort of fun, it was really me just trying to mask the fact that I'm not having fun with Jumpchain anymore. I'm really not. I don't know why I'm still here. So I guess what I'm saying is: Bye. Have fun with your chains, anons, don't be like me.

>>53817945
You just need to reverse-engineer his shard. Worm is a deterministic universe with no unique magical functions which can't be reproduced without unique powers. So all you need is the ability to analyze a shard, and grow a massive colony organism that can mimic it.

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>>53815963
clothing!

>>53815145
Without Chaos you cannot have change and change the laws that don't work (And there will always be laws that don't work).

>>53818046
Yeah, but they achieve those effects with multiverse transit capability, which is only necessarily a thing in Worm.

>>53818126
Anything short of absolute law is chaos.

>>53818042
You'll be back tomorrow at the latest after you wank off and sleep on it, I guarantee.

Hey I'm looking for some advice here.
I wanted to do the Terraformars Jump, and decided to pick the Tardigrade for the surgery, which gives me as much defensive power as I'll need, but I still don't have any offense.

Anybody got ideas on something that can both kill the Johj and not murder the rest of the crew as collateral damage?

>>53818212
No. Use chemical weapons to purge Mars of all life, if you have any crew members still alive, then the Johj are also probably still alive, and that means you aren't using enough chemical weapons.

>>53815735
Time for me to get a FUCKING Servant Eyecon and KICK SOME BOOTYASS.

>>53818032
Cool.

Is it possible for nonhumans to be servants in Fate? Go Beethoven, drown him in slobber!

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>>53815735
Knowing her, I'd be on the wrong end of toonforce as an "introduction."

Can you capture and companion legendaries in the Pokemon jump?

>>53818298
>chemical weapons
>working on the johj
Even if they did, the roaches would just adapt to it, the only guaranteed method to kill them that they can't adapt to is kinetic force.

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How big are your hands relative to the rest of your 8 companions?

>>53815145
>Chaos jumper

Since you can do things without rhyme or reason

>>53815176
>villain sympathy syndrome

Usually in kid shows/settings since sometime they are just doing their jobs

>>53815270
>Surya, from Eclipse Phase. By far the coolest.
How much CP is that?

>>53815735
>Would you accept this proposal?

Sure thing, considering tech/magic/bio aug perks

>>53816785
If constructs count you can make em from lantern rings

>>53818515
>Surya, from Eclipse Phase. By far the coolest.
>How much CP is that?
200CP.

>>53818482
Yeah.

>>53818298
>>53818509
So should I take the bullet ant?

Or could I just take the Hidden Potential perk to give me super strength from the tardigrade and go with something like a Starfish for the clones and regen?

Or just take honey badger and be done with it?

Jumpers, do you import the same weapon at every opportunity to create a super weapon?

Do you have multiple weapons you do this with?

Do you prefer to collect new ones instead of importing?

Why?

>>53818723
Thanks. For some reason I thought you couldn't but I have a feeling I was thinking about some non-Jumpchain Pokemon thing.

>>53818032
How powerful are the missiles here?

What goddess is the MILFiest?

>>53819075
Freya/Hera usually.

>>53819075
Gaia.

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>>53819075
Hathor.

>>53818744
Zephie has three spears. ANGER (Who is also Himedachi), REGRET, and FUCK YOU. ANGER (Yes it has to be in all caps.) is the 'last ditch effort' spear that is usually in the form of a flowery sash around the waist.

Zephie fights with two spears in hand at a time. Typically they fight with FUCK YOU and REGRET. FUCK YOU is an antimagic spear. It doesn't have a lot of force behind it but if I put more mana in it, the spear pounds harder. I'm planning on making it both antimagic and antiregen but I've yet to find concepts of those yet.

REGRET, meanwhile, is meant as a redemption spear. It is NOT a mind control spear, I don't do that. It just makes the person at the tail end reexamine their actions and consider how they've hurt other people undeserving of being hurt. It's also a purifying spear. It also has one of Zeus's lightening bolts forged into it and the concept of empathy, redemption, and purification in it as well. If the person doesn't regret their actions even in that light, I use ANGER and return FUCK YOU to it's form as a earring. (It's shaped like Cu's earrings)

ANGER pounds with the force of a comet (So like 70 km per second) and is bright as one that streaks across the sky. It doesn't only hit with that force but that's what it starts with as a default if I don't make it weaker.

>>53818744
I prefer to collect new ones so I can purchase them with Buy Menu or feed them into my pixelator. That way I have reliable access to a variety of useful effects, which I can then use a number of methods to combine into one weapon.

:^)

>>53815735
Fuck yes?
My genetic code is gonna be insane.

>>53819168
>pixelator

What's that?

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>>53819050
Light ones use 15 megaton "shaped" nuclear explosives to power bomb-pumped x-ray lasers. Capital ship missiles are in the hundred-megaton range. By the latest point in the books, salvos are often in the hundreds of thousands of missiles.

I'm having serious issues coming up with the new 200 CP Drop-In item for Carmen Sandiego. If anyone has any ideas, I'd appreciate it, as I'm just drawing a blank.

>>53818998
People generally roll their eyes at the idea, since Pokémon is your first Jump before you have any of your powers, so it's just you the slightly empowered human versus a demigod.

>>53819178
I meant Pixel Transmogrifier, from Kid Radd. It lets you covert an item into a metaphysical "currency" for 1/4 of its value, which can then be used to "purchase" anything it's scanned.

>>53818744
Why would I? I can use Item Fusion to add all the weapons together into stupid monstrous amalgamations of terrible, and use something like Ensoul to infuse my powers into them directly so that they basically become a second me.

So how does the Force work postjump?

Will the Darkside still corrupt and twist you?

I've never been a huge Star Wars fan and that's mostly because of the Force. How if you're not a monk you have to be a Dark Lord of the Sith. How if you start using the Force for your own personal gain then you will become a baby eating monster. The Darkside has always reminded me of those stupid cliche antidrug programs that say that if you smoke a joint you'll become a crackwhore or a terrorist.

>>53819185
Maybe those marker things from the live action Carmen Santiago show? Put 'em in a map and they light up and flash if there's something interesting at that location, and are disabled for 24 hours if there isn't. You get 8.

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>>53819075
>had thoughts of integrating goddess to mortals CYOA into chain

>>53819373
That is an awesome idea! Can write that up.

In the meantime, had another idea; this might end up being undiscounted instead given your suggestion.

Reference Texts: 200 CP, Discount Drop-In
Sometimes you just can’t carry around all the books you need. You have a pair of linked reference texts; you place one on a bookshelf among other books, and then can open the other to any book on the shelf. This helps you access a lot more information without having to carry around a personal library, and also helps ease the nightmares of those preservationists who might have had a problem with you tramping around with precious first editions.

>>53819361
That's mostly because the jedi are assholes who murder anyone who doesn't fall inline with their stupid force worshiping religion, so your only recourse is to turn around and kill all the jedi.

>>53819395
As in, helping lonely goddesses date humans? Or as in trying to make that setting into a Jump?

>>53819361
It works as it does in setting, except you're a "conduit" to the Force rather than it existing in future jumps.

Yes.

Until the upcoming Bane Trilogy jump, none of the jumps had anything to prevent that.

Any jumps that allow you to become a ship/spaceship?

>>53819448
Kancolle has that as one of the backgrounds.

>>53819234
I'm sure my highly trained Rattata can take on the demigod Palkia.

>>53818032
>drawback section
>can only take up to 2 drawbacks
*frowns loudly*
Other than that pretty cool stuff.

>>53819143
Sex drugs and rocknroll goddess is not a milf.

Is there anything that allows you to alter the nature of an ability? Like, slay a fire demon with some sort of power-stealing, but instead of gaining Hellfire you would gain the "Holy" equivalent?

To the anon who was making the suits power armor jump, is that still happening? Sorry to bug you I was just wondering.

>>53819521
Real eater is the only one I know of off the top of my head anon, sorry.

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>>53819361
Fiat, brother. Fiat and weird inter-multiversal physics is how everything, including the Force, works in Jumpchain.

>>53815182
Lunars.

>>53819548
Anon, Real Eater explicitly disallows you from altering the "source" of an ability, which that most certainly would count as. Thanks anyway.

>>53819577
... wrong image *sigh*

>>53819586
Obviously it's now holy demonic fire.

>>53819586
How is that altering the source? Its turning one fire into another, if it can turn fire into ice why would it not be able to do that?

>>53815735
Why the fuck not? I mean, decent odds I get shot at least once, but that's how things go. He's got enough loyalty perjs to get me to do his shady stuff with him, too.

>>53819497
She's literally a god of motherhood though.

>>53815735
Nope.

So, is it official that Red's given up on Black Crusade AGAIN?

>>53819678
Fuck off.

>>53819678
>wanting a rushed jump instead of just waiting

She'll be done when she's done.

>>53819577
How goes starforce?

>>53819696
So never? It's just like Worm update or WoW, more a meme than anything else.

>>53819361
You don't have to be Jedi or Sith. Not in canon and certainly not in the jumps.
Both the Kotor and Clone Wars jump offer origins for neutral/independent/Grey Jedi. Those are a thing.
Falling to the dark side happens either because you have no control over your emotions (Jedi) or because you're the kind of asshole who would've gone that way even without the corruption.

If you're that worried about it pick up some anti-corruption perks.

And actually read the jumps in question, seeing how all that stuff is explicitly written out in at least 2 of them (Kotor and Clone Wars).

>>53816070
>All ye who enter, do unto others only what you would have others do unto you.
What happens when a sadimasochist arrives?

>>53819750
Even sadomasochists generally like people to ask first. It's only polite.

>>53818032
>>53819050
>the missiles here
how are consumables like missiles and weapon ammo handled?
Do they restock in jump?
What about in later jumps?

>>53819696
Don't feed the fucker.

>>53819801
What if a person with a rape fetish shows up? They reallywant to get raped. But theyre like that woman from san francisco who self identifies as a hippo and tries to be a sexy fat hippo.

>>53819750
>not doing unto others what others HAVE done unto you

Letting someone stab your eye out and get away with it isn't being a better person.

>>53819696
So, only if/when we find somebody else to work on the jump. Good to see we're on the same wavelength

>>53819700
>starforce
It's kind of on the back burner, but I can't imagine it'll take too long after I've finished my exams in ~ 2 weeks

>>53819917
Yay!

>>53819717
Dude, chill. MCU2 took a while, and (i think) it's pretty good.

patience.

>>53820003
>pretty good
>I think

Well, your opinion's objectively wrong.

>>53819410
t. palpatine

>>53820003
It's pretty sad how that jump took the jumpmaker ~5 months and yet she berated people for not replacing hers in one.

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>tfw you pimped your ship in Titanfall so it's really useful as a ship but also want to have it as a kanmusu
I kinda wanna just make kanmusu an altform.

>>53820038
It's pretty sad that the people who wanted permission to remake one of hers didnt even do anything in that entire month.

Not even a WIP.

>>53820033
>Hurr everyone who's portrayed as "right" in fiction is objectively so
>Durr I choose all the "good" options that are spoon-fed to me so I can feel morally superior
I bet you allowed the Wall of Faithless to exist just because it was maintained by "good" gods, huh?

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>>53815145
Sheogorathian cycles of law and chaos

>>53820070
You could just learn the magics that make a Kanmusu what they are. I mean they are being brought forth by calling their spirits back from their wrecks.

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>>53815145

Speaking of WoW, OAA - you've started including bits and pieces of the TTRPG to incorporate into the jump. Will this be including feats as perks, like Vision Quest or Mind Over Matter?

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>>53820027
>I think
fine, it's pretty good. I haven't seen a few of the phase 2 movies, so im not an authority, but it's well made and has a lot of unique stuff in it. Plus im keeping MCU for later in my chain. so chill.

Have a Germanball meme.

>>53820076
It's pretty sad how a Solars jump has allegedly been in the works for an entire year yet the jumpmaker didn't even do anything in that time.

Not even a WIP.

Two can levy that bullshit. There are dozens of jumpmakers who don't show even the barest bit of progress until the jump is finally complete, months down the road. It's unreasonable to hold jumpmakers who were given permission to replace such jumps to an unreasonable and arbitrarily higher standard.

>>53820170
Exactly.

And that's why you should shut up.

>>53820147
>Mind Over Matter
>Add your charisma to your hit points

Jesus christ I could charge any amount of CP for that and I would still see so an ungodly number of builds taking it.

To answer your question, yes. There are gonna be Feats-as-Perks.

>>53820201
So you're going to charge 1600 CP for it just because there are ridiculous charisma perks in other jumps, and not based on how powerful it is in setting, if you even offer it at all. Good to know your jump can be ignored.

>>53820248
For every bit of lip I get out of you it's gonna be another 200 CP on top of that.

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>>53820248
>Passive aggressive shitposting
Good to know you can be ignored.

How hard is the Kyon? drawback Haruhi Suzumiya to succeed at?

>>53820170
So, basically
>you say everything red makes is bad and takes to long to come out
>you can't levee any criticism against it or point out why they're bad, but you insist on replacing it anyway, and insult the jump maker for their content despite having nothing to show
>they give you permission anyway, but you continue to attack them for it, even after you've been told that you can make your own
>you say its going to take a long time with no evidence of its existence because jump makers take a long time to make anything
You are a massive hypocrite.

>>53820285
So... 3200?

>>53820297
He's shitposting. That's all he's doing. To make her feel bad and annoy you. Why are you feeding him? Your replies make his dick big and gives him more material to shitpost with because he can reply to you in some retarded way.

>>53820320
actually I think we're up to 4000 now.

>>53820201
Goddamn, how big is this jump so far?

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What is your favorite non human rpg or fantasy race?

>>53820292
Not just passive-aggressive shitposting.

HYPERBOLIC passive-aggressive shitposting. Like the kind you see at a gossip circle of middle-aged, middle-class white women.

>>53820376
Or any black barber shop.

>>53820285
...So? It's pretty much useless anyway, and either requires you to take specific perks in other jumps or take specific perks in other jumps and spend unimaginable effort increasing an arbitrary, imaginary mental stat that no one in the setting has to any comparable level. You just raising the price shows that you're willing to punish the whole thing thread because of some "shitposter" and would only create ill will towards you.

>>53820368
Drow. I just loving have Drow feet covering my face.

>>53820352
I'll give you an answer once it stops growing, but I've topped out past the 90's and that's not including the skeleton of Items (which has Garrison customization and Steam Armor customization), and drawbacks, and Notes.

Thank fuck I'm putting the Quests into a separate file. I want to do the same with the Order Hall details, but at the same time - that's rather important to purchasing-knowledge so I should be leaving it in.

>>53820368
Lizardmen. I just love having Lizardman feet covering my face.

>>53820368
Lamia.

>>53820458
Your every post in this place just causes a surge of shitposting.

Leave.

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>>53820102
Damn, this straw you're making me wear is pretty itchy.

The wall of the faithless is a fucking horrifying concept and I have no idea why the fuck they would allow that. I didn't involve myself in that discussion but I'm squarely on the "anti-faceless wall" side. There are flaws in the Jedi Philosophy but I don't think killing them all is the answer.

>>53820368
Angels, if only for the style

>>53815308
Guys? Anything?

>>53820458
Is there anything wroth doing with the Outlands or should you just let it finish dissolving?

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Howdy /JC!

Cave Story Jump 119:
CP: 1000
Drawback:
Running Hell [+600]
Location: Start Point
Origin: Researcher
Perks:
Moonsong [Free]
Moonjump [Free]
Spot the Bot [Free]
Flesh and Metal [-300]
Misery's Might [-800]
Gear:
Energy Weapons System [-200]
A Red Flower Garden Plot [-300]

Have some semi-decent Writefagging: https://pastebin.com/fedAvp3Z

>>53820368
Pic Related.

>>53820482
But the problem is you don't have a choice, the Jedi are going to kill you because you don't agree with them. What, are you just going to let them kill you and shit on your grave because you were somehow ideologically dangerous to them?

>>53820473
>Lamia
This anon speaks the truth.

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>>53820440
>I just loving have Drow feet covering my face.

>>53815308
>>53820486
I'd tell you if I knew, but I don't.

>>53815308
>>53820486

Did you read the notes? It tells you in the notes.

>Additionally, Dormant Power by itself gives you the sheer potential power the Player Characters exhibited, going from struggling to kill Pixies to murdering deities and demon royals by the dozen in about a (subjective) month of constant conflict and life-or-death struggles. Your growth rate is a bit slower, however, requiring a few decades to max out.

>>53820201
That would imply you would see an "ungodly number of builds" in the first place. :^)

>>53819185
>You may select up to two Drawbacks to gain additional points.
Please no.
Just give a max drawback limit of +600 CP gained from drawbacks like everyone else so every max cp build posted doesn't have the exact same drawbacks.

>>53820440
>>53820460
>Feet
What?

>>53820543
It's a fetish.

>>53820458
Can I give my Steam Armor a giant codpiece that's also a cannon?

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>>53820517
>Aggressive language
>Implying a jumper can't no sell jedi with the right perks thus your only option is to kill them to survive when you can just social perk them into oblivion

I see what you're doing.

>>53820524
What is she, because she is cute.

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>>53820368
Kobolds. I used to play them a lot.

>>53819471
Ah! But is it in the top percentage of Rattata?!

>>53815735
I guess, sure, although I'd probably just end up hanging out with myself being a lazy sack of crap all day.

> Wait which one are you referring to?
Yes.

>>53815145
I like a light fluffy smattering of Chaos in an otherwise Ordered environment.

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>>53820524
>pic

>>53820571
She is a small and slutty dragon.

>>53820509
Get everybody currently on Outland, out. Whether it's to another (non-Legion-dominated) world or Azeroth. Other than that, it's doomed - one way or another it's going to crumble piece-by-piece into space.

>>53820560
I'm not gonna say no, and I think the goblins would get a kick out of it.

>>53815308
What jump?

>>53820524
>>53820543
Sometimes it's nice to submit to a naturally domineering group of women. As a ridiculously powerful and influential Gary Stu, I sometimes need to let go and suck some toes... you know what I mean?

>>53820594
A dom everywhere else, but a sub in bed?

I can dig it.

>>53819185
>2 drawback limiy

Fuck why? That is one of the worst things you can do.

>>53820534
Yeah, but it says in the notes that for every capstone you take it reduces that by 22 'levels' out of your total potential of 99. So, wouldn't you be objectively stronger than any other build if you just took Dormant Power and nothing else?

>>53820368
Gnolls. Take an animal that just laughs at everything, and then adapt them into basically Orcs. That's my shit. Pseudo-Futanari is a bonus

>>53819373
This like what you had in mind?

Give It A Guess: 200 CP, Discount Drop-In
While you now have a fancy interactive world map capable of zoom and, where possible, satellite photography, that’s not the truly impressive part of this item. You have eight intangible “guesses” that you can use to spotlight cities. If there is something which would be of interest to you within a fifteen mile radius of the city centre, its location on the map will begin flashing. The map will update itself to cover any other places you may travel, though it scales appropriately; in some places you may only be alerted that an item is in the right star system. If there’s nothing there, that guess is disabled for the next 24 hours.

>>53819841
I was planning on it just restocking at the start of every jump, as it says.

>>53820590
SMT 1. It was already partially quoted in it's effects by >>53820534

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>>53820569
>Using Record-tier bullshit that assumes that everyone takes the same jump order or has certain perks
>To defend something from an in-setting perspective
I see that you've been affected by the mongrels on SB... Maybe we should put you out of your misery, as one last service to an old friend.

>>53820623
Yes. But at the same time, you wouldn't have the esoteric bullshit that those capstones, boosted, have access to.

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>>53820594
So something like this?

>>53820479
>Your every post awakens my tsundere feelings, sempai
>leave before I shitpost at you some more to conceal my true feelings, b-baka.

>>53820669
Kinda... she's not chained to her back though and isn't being stepped on by Drow priestesses. It's the one kink that survived tens of thousands of years of Jumping

>>53818744
I have something like six or so main weapons (most of which double as clothing or accessories), that I rotate between Importing and modifying depending on which one is most compatible with the Import and modification in question. All of the various other weapons I've gotten in Jumps, the ones that I don't think it's necessary to incorporate into my active arsenal, lay around in the Arsenal/Workshop I've set up in my Warehouse, where I tinker with them for fun and for testing purposes.

The reason I have a large-ish arsenal is that for me, passions towards different things stops and starts, and when I get bored of something I quickly move onto the next thing that catches my eye. If I only had one weapon, I would eventually just get bored of it. For me, it's much more fun to separate and partition my various tools and powers

>>53820623
The boosted capstones give you more combat power than the level loss, unless you boost the non-combat capstones like Sacrificial Bestowment.

>>53820623
No, Demonic Union with Dormant Power is the strongest, because you start out stronger but have the same potential for growth.

>>53820623
Just get one of those perks like in Noblesse of Fate/Stay that give you unlimited potential in anything you can train. Eventually, Level 100 will be mook-tier to you.

>>53820623
You can actually chose not to boost the capstones and just keep the growth potential and normal capstone.

>>53820669
>That pic
Well, NOW my plans for Surge Concerto are forever perverted.

>>53820781
>who cares about what you can get from any given jump when other jumps exist which have alternatives
Back again?

>>53820752
Doesnt the crown item give limitless growth?

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>>53820804
I am still waiting for that Ar noSurge jump that Annette will grace us with.

I need to gently step on Ion, dammit!

>>53820609
It's a pretty common fetish for people in power. Just like people with little power like BDSM and rape fantasies.

Any way to get yandachi without picking up the others?

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>>53820890
>>53820594
>>53820440
>>53820543
Speaking of which, what are your jumper's fetishes and how often do you write them indulging in them?

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>>53815145
Law in general, but strict devotion to it is a bad idea.
Unless you're talking in terms of SMT. Then fuck both options.

>>53815184
One if I remember correctly. It was artificial, Baby-Wyatt(being magical jesus) made one pop out of the TV, from a TV show he was watching.

>>53815735
I'd probably be miserable to be perfectly honest. Considering Justice is an idealized version of myself, his "normal" form still looks like me even, just perfected. Combined with how he has all the cute girls, and I would have no one. Yeah. I don't think I would accept.

I'd probably join up with Stalwart Tiger though. He's loud, he's in your face, he's arrogant as hell, but he's good to his companions.

>>53818744
Yes. The Sword. I'm terrible at names, and no name suggested as ever 'fit' in my mind. It's a sword, and I've also improved on it myself.

No, though I do import my Armor from time to time.

No, but I do collect new ones when I have the chance. Both so I can have a collection, and so I can determine how to add their properties to The Sword on my own.

Because it's a project, keeps me from getting bored. Along with my other projects.

>>53820368
I've always liked Tieflings.

Man, you guys are weird. Why can't you people have normal sexual fantasies? I just want someone to fuck me until my pupils turn into hearts.

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>>53820947
Top Tier anon.

>>53820929
What the fuck.

>>53820571
>>53820577
Her name is smolder, and she's a character of someone named Kanel.

Wouldn't mind bringing her along for my chain.

>>53820947
>I just want someone to fuck me until my pupils turn into hearts.
Who doesn't?

>>53820868
Good news, anon! Today was my last exam for the semester! ALL As MOTHERFUCKER

Bad news, my pc is still burnt out. Aside from being unable to play Stormblood. SON OF A-, writing is a problem. That said? Depending on how my summer goes, I'll definitely have time. Here's to hoping everything goes well.

>>53820929
Floor tiles

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>>53820996
You can do it Annette!

I believe in you!

Help me, I haven't stopped listening to Class::XIO_PROCEED;

>>53821005
Oh god. I also remember that guy.

>>53812017
>Hey BrotherAnon
>Do the powers copied with Power Mimicry develop as normal? The description only mentions a early limit of 3 powers at a time.
>Are they grafted like Powers taken or are they like original since its our power copying theirs?
>The jump only mentions avatar-link stuff and stealing..
Sorry for the late reply. Today has been really hectic.
Right, so, any Power that you aren't born with or purchase with CP is going to be at a relative disadvantage compared to those that are when it comes to growth potential. Powers gained through Mimicry or Absorption aren't those you bought with CP or those you were born with, so...
Also, the immunities limit is currently set to 3 but is capable of growing...

>>53815184
There was the one Justiceanon mentioned that was made by Wyatt, there are also actual Dragons in setting.
They are however virutally extinct, with a few half-breeds like Dragon Warlocks around.
How authentic Wyatt's dragon was compared to the real ones, who knows, but the comic suggests they follow a more D&D style morphology of seperate wings and fore limbs.

>>53816070
Nice. Very nice. Thank you for posting this.

>>53819854
>But theyre like that woman from san francisco who self identifies as a hippo and tries to be a sexy fat hippo.
What?
No, actually I don't want to know. Please don't tell me.
Tell me, please, my curiousity burns!

>>53820929
Necrophilia-lite
Quite a lot as my waifu is the skeleton of a woman I resurrected. Fully sentient and able to give verbal responses.

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>>53820947

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>>53821130
Closest image I have to her

>>53820124
Is that a thing?

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>>53820947

>>53821053
Thanks, anon.

Ever tried to hear deep into CLASS: EXPAJA, em-pyei-n vari-fen jang or Class::EXSPHERE_NOSURGE?

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>>53820666
Thanks for the laugh, but I'm not your friend. I don't even know who you are.

>>53821190
Those are also in my Arno playlist.

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>I missed this
Shit.

O.B.L.I.G.A.T.E.D

>>53821123
I know not "perks" and "purchases", but can in-setting things which affect magic can be stolen? If you have access to the same outside power source as your target can a Power be stolen?

>>53821228
Are you fucking kidding me? >>53820666

>>53820929
Necrophilia (mostly with the undead), teratophilia, cute things in general, consensual disembowelment. Probably other things, knowing him.

I hardly ever write it unless it's about one of them getting him into trouble.

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>>53821174
>one day in the future it will be entirely possible for people to biomechanically engineer themselves to be squigirls with pupils that can turn eye shaped
>but you'll be long dead before then

>>53821285
>Implying people won't try to make it illegal for idiotic moral reasons
>Such as "Designer babies" or "Muh Nazis"

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>>53820929
Nurses and Christmas Cakes are hot.

>>53820929
Do you wanna know?

Do you REALLY wanna know?

tentacles and oviposition.

Remember: you asked.

>>53821317
Her eye looks like a fleshlight from the thumbnail.

>>53821330
Do you use pre-existing orifices or just pick a spot on the torso and go to town?

>>53820929
Consensual missionary once a week under a picture of Jesus.

>>53821330
>spoiler
That's not that weird. I mean, comparatively, that's not that weird. It could be a lot weirder.

>>53821372
YOU SICK FUCK, I BET YOU HOLD HANDS TOO.

>>53821091
Makes me think of that one guy who showed his sister his jumpchain porn.

>>53820947
I read a sci-fi novel where that can be a thing. Androids with custom body can let you get up to all sorts of shit. The protagonist lived on a planet that had been started by hippies who turned themselves into "nature spirits" and Orks with elf waifus. Looking back the writer probably had one hell of a transformation fetish.
Not that I mind.

>>53821397
In public, yes.
dangerously lewd

>>53821403
I've heard weirder stories. Hell I have a weirder story.

I was once online with one of my friends, he left but didn't turn off his mic. I ended up hearing him and his sister get drunk and fuck.

He gets extremely mad whenever I bring it up.

>>53821403
...what?

>>53820929
I'm not dumb enough to tell you that.

>>53821198
Looks more like hillary clinton.

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>>53821424
Oh God, what.

>>53821424
Straight up living the incestuous dream?

>>53821169
Yeah the whole idea of kanmusu (Fleet Girls) are moe anthropomorphisms of World War II naval warships which were summoned, in the Anime. The representation that we get in the Jump is the one from the Anime and that one chose to go with the idea that the people of humanity, faced with Abyssals who were as tough/strong/had the guns of the battleships/etc they anthropomorphized but had a the benefit of being only the size of fucking human, turned to invoking the kanmusu. The reason that the Japanese ships are the first ones seen is because the magic itself is based on invoking the Kami of those ships, which is also why ships of great personal history seem to be popping up.

Granted that still leaves a lot of mysteries but that's Kantai for you.

>>53821459
What kind of pussy-ass "primordial evil" are you that shit like that freaks you out? Hell, iirc, you've been down weirder routes.

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>>53820929
Big girls.