Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

first for Skitarii have been cast to the winds

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Second for the new titan meta

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Third for tell me about any games of 8th you've played.
Is it better than 7th? Why? Are the armies more balanced?
Also, what army do you play and what combos/units are you enjoying using in 8th?
Batreps welcome

4th for Ynnari is still OP edition

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>On being called out on not including Orkz, they said that they "forgot" them

I mean they did say they'll stream one with them now after the others, but being an Ork guy is suffering, it's bad enough being ignored or shit on, but completely and utterly forgotten? Just sad.

>>53637365
>Tyranids VS Deathwatch
FLUFFY

>>53637365
Dark Eldar vs Knights

rip in pepperonis emo space faggots

>>53637365

Thank FUCK we get to watch Space Marines play four fucking times though...

I swear to god those Warhammer TV clowns are the most unprofessional twats ever

>>53637365
>Custodes vs Guard
why

So what's this I keep hearing about the Imperium being split in two by a warp rift thing?

>>53637365
>Cruddace interview
>before GSC match

>>53637419

fuck off and read the community site you tedious cunt, no spoon feeding for you

>>53637365
One day Orks will be relevant.

One day.

From my test dice rolling, Dunecrawler gunlines seem completely brutal. Three of them is about 450 points and is regularly scoring OTK on shit like Land Raiders and Rowboat Girlyman if I can actually get a shot at him. They just tear though all the shit equally. Arquebi are doing an excellent job at picking off lesser characters, too. Obviously this isn't in a full game environment, just throwing dice to get a feel of things, but the "targeted annihilation" strategy is good and strong.

>>53637365
>Classified interview

10 bucks says it's Ward

>>53637419
>Google

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Welcome to the Ork Boyz edition

How do I make this list viable? Limited by models owned.

VANGUARD DETACHMENT

HQ
Commander Shadowsun [167]

Elite
Riptide w/ ATS and Drone Controller [317]
Riptide w/ ATS and Drone Controller [317]
Riptide w/ ATS and Drone Controller [317]
Riptide w/ ATS and Drone Controller [317]

Fast Attack
Marker Drones x4 [56]

Total Points = 1491

>>53637452

armed with what? Neutrons?

>>53637365

Also seem to have forgotten about Adepta Ministorum or whatever the fuck they rolled the SOB into.

>>53637452
I ran tripple neutron dunecrawlers with a dominus twice yesterday, and I can attest to this.

Game one, they blew up the swarmlord and two flying hive tyrants before my opponent realized how killey they were and threw everything at them

Game two, they destroyed 3 maulerfiends and nurgle HQs.

They are brutal.

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>>53637457

>>53637416
Five.
>>53637365
Aww damn, missed Goodwin.

>>53637417
Why not?

>>53637503
>SOB
hahahahahha faggot

>>53637479

Not sure I can get behind fielding more Boyz on the table.

It's nice to see they're viable now, but that isn't something I'm used to seeing or putting on the table.

>>53637365
anywhere to watch the custodes game?

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>>53637189
Rate my 100 power list please. Just a fluffy list I've made, I'm new to the game.

It represents a strand of Hive Fleet Kraken that fought the Ultramarines so much they absorbed their power. The Hive Mind sensing that the Ultramarines were the most superior of not just the Space Marines but all life forms adapted themselves to attempt to emulate them.

<Hive Fleet:Ultramarines>

>Guilliman 18
>Marneus Calgar 13
>Swarm Lord 15

>Tiggy librarian 7
>Tyrannic war vets 5

>Intercessor squad 6
>Intercessor squad 6
>Tartaros terminator Squad 13

>Exocrine 11
>Zoanthropes 6

Plans to use the swarm lords hive commander ability to boost Guilliman into combat as quickly as possible. Likewise Guilliman let's the swarm lords reroll hits and wounds.
Venomthropes provide cover to infantry which advance to take objectives.
Zoeys and tiggy provide psyker support. Tartaros terminators deep strike in to do some damage.

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>>53637599

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>tfw I can finally take a knight and not feel like an ass.

Detachment - 51 PP

Captain in Gravis Armour (1) - 7pwr
1 Inceptor: Master-crafted power sword,Boltstorm gauntlet

Primaris Lieutenants (2) - 8pwr
2 Primaris Lieutenant: Master-crafted auto bolt rifle,Bolt pistol

Intercessor Squad (5) - 6pwr
1 Intercessor Sergeant
4 Intercessor

Intercessor Squad (5) - 6pwr
1 Intercessor Sergeant
4 Intercessor

Primaris Ancient (1) - 4pwr
1 Primaris Ancient: Bolt rifle,Bolt pistol

Hellblaster Squad (5) - 10pwr
1 Hellblaster Sergeant: Plasma incinerator
4 Hellblaster: Plasma incinerator

Hellblaster Squad (5) - 10pwr
1 Hellblaster Sergeant: Plasma incinerator
4 Hellblaster: Plasma incinerator
Rate mates.

>>53637582
Twitch if you've a sub, otherwise no.

>>53637568
It's like a pavlovian response. You've been conditioned, anon.

If I squirted out a fat log of shit onto the table, what unit in 40k could I substitute that as?

>>53637599
No

>>53637634
Great Unclean One ofc

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>>53637599
You got a call Anon

>>53637629

Eh.

I'm used used to things like lootas, burnas, flash gitz, bikers and walkers. They actually shot and or krumped better than boyz did in the previous edition.

That being said, how are Storm Boyz and Tank Bustas now?

>>53637500
Yeah, Neutron Lasers. They certainly seem to be devouring everything in their path, and >>53637504
means they seem to keep this up on the tabletop. I'll try the Icarus out now, but I'm seriously feeling that a backline firebase with 3 Crawlers, Cawl and either some Destroyers or a Datasmith/Kastelan maniple would be a hell of a backline, since the big weakness of the Kastys is low BS and it would be nice to reroll those damage-halving 2s To Hit. I also want Sniper Rangers, since they seem to also be doing serious work, but that would be about a 1200 pt deathball, and doesn't leave much to advance. Although Dragoons are cheap, so maybe three individual ones to advance and harass and tie up the shooty and then many many Vanguard just to W+M1 forwards and draw fire. If you need supporting punch, take an Infil squad and an Enginseer-Servitor unit for what I believe is a full 2.5k Brigade, although HQ taxes get properly prohibitive at that point and there doesn't really seem to be a way around needing two or three 150pt Domini at that level.

>>53637634
rules wise:
riptide
looks wise:
taurox prime

>>53637615

Fuck

>>53637634
Babycarrier

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So we all agree that T"''a'u'" are the new shit tier army?

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Has someone count how many points each of Dark Imperium army has? I'm thinking about start playing 40k and it would be really handy if I could use them in 1000 pts games

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>Orks are bullied in 7th and hordes are poo
>make an 1850 Ork list with a total of 20 Ork models
>8th comes and I can no longer include my Looted Wagons and Imperial Knight
>but hordes are good

>>53637738
Should have just played horde, lad.

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>>53637599
kek

>>53637734
its about 950 points per side

Who here has played 8th so far? I've gotten a few games in against my gf's space wolves. It certainly is easy to teach. Also she likes Tyranids because they look like dragons.

>>53637774

false, primaris points are wrong on the starter sheets

>>53637780
My Orks vs my wifes proxied Necrons (just got her a get started set as a result of this game).

Very easy to teach a basic game and she enjoyed it greatly.

>>53637457
It's probably the Frontline Gaming guys

Vostroyan 8e list- now base on points rather than powerlevel!

1 × company commander
2 x primaris psykers
3 x platoon commander
3 x commissar
1 x command squad w/company standard, vox, and lascannon
8 x infantry squad w/grenade launcher and vox caster
2 x heavy weapon squad w/ heavy bolters
2 x heavy weapon squad w/ mortars
1 x heavy weapons squad w/ lascannons
3 × squadron of 3 scout sentinels w/ missile launchers and HK missiles

Clocking in at 1474. Probably sprinkle some memey shit like bolt pistols for the sgts in to bring it to a nice round 1500.

>>53637738

The Forgeworld index may have you covered there. Their old Dreadmob army list had such a low model count that Grey Knights could almost outnumber them.

> and Imperial Knight

Why not?

>>53637780
>>53637800
>gf
>wife

ree, normies, etc etc etc

>>53637503

Yeah, but we're used to this shit, orks are a real army with a full codex and plastic models.

>>53637568

I have 180 Boyz painted that have been mostly languishing in my cupboard once the glory days of 5th ended.

I am prepared for 8th.

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CAWL IS A HERETEK

GUILLIMAN IS A XENOSLOVER

IMPERIUM BTFO

CHAOS RULZ OK

>>53637452
Can confirm this. Keep a techpriest Dominus nearby for field repairs, because your opponent will throw everything he has at the crawlers.

I ran some destroyers with grav and flamers alongside them. They're pretty great at erasing armored units, and their flamers means they never worry about getting charged.

It feels good being IG.

>>53637780
>>53637800
How do you even get your bitches to play? SO says she wants Harlequinns for the longest time but hasn't gotten around or even come close to getting started.

>Black library literally justifying Chaos

Playing my third game of 8th tonight /tg/ - pretty excited.The first two have gone well, time to test my Eldar again.

>>53637780
I've played 5 games so far.
I've played a 1000pt game that took an hour
two 1500pt games that took an hour and a a half to 2 hours (the second one was all melee armies in combat from bottom of turn 1)
and a 2000pt game with a lot of combat that took 2:45.

Its so much faster than 7th. Its a lot simpler than 7th. it still plays a lot like 7th.
On paper, things look more balanced.

overall: good.

>>53637859
Chaosfag, pls. Contain yourself or I'm gonna deep strike in your deployment zone.

>>53637615

W-why would they care I was a sub? And how would they even know?

>>53637873

Basically just got her into the universe through reading books, long rants about how insane the universe is and how funny Orks are, and got her to develop an interest in an army.

We play board games together, her favourite game is Gears of War, so I just convinced her to give 40K a try as it uses similar mechanics like moving models and dice rolling (coupled with a speech about how she can play out all those awesome stories she loves to hear me go on about) and one thing lead to another.

>>53637798
So how many points the starter set army has?

>>53637780

I've played 3 games so far - all at 2k against my very competitive meta and so far we're having a blast. Had a chance to watch probably 3 more games as well - seen a fair chunk of armies played - nothing seems overtly terrible either which is nice.

>>53637915
You can only watch Warhammer Live recordings if you're subscribed. Live is A-OK.

>>53637915
You're about as funny as stale oatmal.

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my weekly check in. any fulgrim leaks yet?

>>53637873
I got my wife to paint up my Flashgitz with nail polish. It was smooth sailing from there.

>>53637873
Have you tried dating someone with asperger's and a crippling need to please you?

>>53637962
>trying to insult a sub
That's going to backfire, anon

>>53637421
>against Howling Griffons

>>53637970
Even if there was noone will tell a lazy sack of shit.

>>53637970
Chill, I want EC as much as anyone, but we haven't even seen the Death Guard stuff proper yet.

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>>53637903

hot

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>>53638012
And that's just Turn 1.

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Rate

>>53638072
>Swarmlord
Stopped reading there/10

>>53638054

What kind of idiot would leave you space for a deployment zone deepstrike turn 1 these days?

>>53637738

eh i'd let you play it as a looted knight.

Just ask your opponents before hand.

also stop bringing this up. it reflects poorly on you, if it is you who keeps bringing it up every thread.

>>53638089

>20 genestealers
>no broodlord

>>53638012
>This webcomic
>Used in this way
I have to admit, I smirked. The guy's been feminist-preachy for fucking ever now.

>>53638072
There's an army builder out already?

>>53638111
One who hides in all the terrain

>>53637818

needs more vehicles. or more dedicated anti-tank.

>>53638072
How many fucking times are you going to post this?

Or perhaps every nid list looks the same already.

>>53637495
You don't. Nobody will play against this list.

>>53637734
950 for the Blueberries, 850 for the Snot Marines.

>>53638150

I absolutely would. Killing it in two turns would be super satisfying after living through 7e.

>>53638150
actually, it's a shit list since only 1 model in it has weapons.
so all you need to do is sit on objectives with more models and slowly whither them suits down/tarpit them

>>53638144
No, that's a different list if this is the same guy I'm thinking of. Tyranid lists just always look samey to non-nid players for some reason. In my experience they always have a hard time telling apart different monstrous creatures and weapons.

>>53638144
No it's the same fucking guy every time

>>53638111
We're gonna make it fit in there.

>>53638144
No they don't. Normal Nid players wouldn't touch Tyrant Guard or the Swarmlord.

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Do we have any scans or pics of pic related already?

>>53638231
>mawlocs modelled as mawlocs get called trygons
>retards try to tell me that swarmy's bonesabres only ID on a 6
>Taufag calls miasma cannon broken
>after tabling my horde with three models
It's like you have to want to be bullied to still play nids.

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rip squig hounds

>>53637215
>implying vanguard with Plasma guns and omnispexes aren't the hottest shit

They're actually quite good at mopping up all kinds of infantry, and work really well in contagion with kataphrons. A little annoyed we can't spam hordes of them though, not like GW made THAT THE MAIN FLUFFPOINT AND SELLING POINT OF THE ARMY OR ANYTHING

Oh well, I'll just enjoy bringing a trio of domini

>>53638297
Swarmlord is very good now to be fair, people only tend to avoid him for fluff reasons.

>>53637704
How is AdMech in 8th? I'm joining wh40k with the 8th ed. and am thinking of picking AM for my 1st army.

What would models you recommend for the start. Start collecting + kastellans?

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Guard anons report in with army pics!
And remember anons the Guard haven't broken at Cadia and soon it will be reclaimed and the Traitor Legions will be destroyed for the Emperor!

>>53638303
It's the same shit in the index except cut down to fit in the starter set. We won't have new Death Guard leaks for another month or so.

>>53638323
Not anymore bugbrother

>>53638323
>after tabling my horde with three models
which models?

>>53638339
They're only 10 points per model how is that not spammable

>>53638373
What did he mean by this?

>>53638352
No more fluff or lore than in chaos index? That's sad

How long until Primaris get their own multi-pose kits with options? When do you think we'll start getting them?

I know Hellbuggerers fill their heavy support slot like Devastators and are likely to have expanded options soon, but what about Librarians? Assault Primaris? Terminators? Weapon platforms?

>>53638379
Because they're not explicitly as spammable as other armies who's spammable units only are as cheap as they are because without their numbers they wouldn't hurt a fly

>>53638400
immediately

The weeks after the release will be nothing but death guard and primaris

>>53638393
Oh no it's got lore actually, sorry

>>53637365
>Tyranids vs Deathwatch
We are gonna get destroyed by the 'Nids, but hell yeah that's fluffy

>>53638330
Still got attack squigs.

>>53638400
>How long until Primaris get their own multi-pose kits with options?

Never. They'll be like the Stormcast boxes - monopose (but not snapfit) with your only options being weapons and maybe a few spare heads.

>>53638072
How did you make that list? 8th edition shows blank for armybooks

>>53637495
Hahahaha fuck off.

If I pre-order dark imperium will it be available on that day or will my order only be sent to the shop on that day and arrive later in the week?

>>53637937

Dark Imperium Box Set points...

Primaris Marines : 969
Death Guard: 832

why?

>>53638435
>go https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#!/rosterCreator
>switch to points
>pick Nids
That's all. Most factions like T'au are not updated yet

>>53637495
I will relish crushing this. Every second will be pure ecstasy.

>>53638461
and even then, seems like death guard is whooping primaris' ass left and right

>>53638461
And I heard that DG is still the stronger half of this box

>>53637613
Me too bro. Me too.

>>53638350

They are a good solid army, held back from being in the top tier by their lack of transports.

>>53638461
gotta help make sure the good guys win the demo games :^)

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>>53638463
I am on there man, switched to point and it's still nothing

hey guys im new to the lore
does the imperium rely more on the adeptus astartes or the astra militarum? is it quality over quantity or is the astra militarum actually very capable and mighty? (from the looks of it, their equipment seems quite underwhelming compared to all the xenos forces)

>>53638461
The points values in the starter set are different. GW probably changed things in the indexes later and forgot to update the Dark Imperium ones to match. Nurgle tends to win.

>>53638350
Pretty good, if you learn to properly implement anti-charge defenses and tactically arrange your dudes, they're top tier all around

Plus Electropriests are the new hot shit

>>53638379
Because you needs lots of HQs now, and the Dominus is their only one. I guess you could use some other cheap dude, but considering Admech will be running 8-12 troops choices regularly having a single fairly mono build HQ which we need three PF limits ability to pop out hordes of skittles.

It's cool though, everything else is really worth taking

Plan on starting 40k with 8th edition. Heading to my local GW shop this week to pick up my first set of models + paint stuff. So many faction choices and things to consider. The investment cost is so high that you really have to choose carefully. Shit is fun and I haven't even played yet.

>>53638461
Because snotty brought zombies. Which are a lot of models... but cheap.

>>53638351
thats the first time i see a baneblade in comparison to other vehicles
damn its huge

>>53638495
9,999 out of every 10,000 battles are fought without any Space Marines.

>>53638144
There are three variations of nid list. Two of them look similar, but the lists are all different.
Its just how nid lists look to non-nid fags

>>53638493
strange, working for me tho

>>53637873
But get some then, you knobgoblin.

>>53638350
Different than before, a tad pared down but still damn potent according to the people who have run tests and played games. Everything in the starter box is anywhere from amazing to good, and Kastelans are an excellent fire support dakka unit. I would recommend 2xSC and Kastelan box for a good starting army, stay away from Arc weapons like the plague, kit the Kastelans for full Phosphor and choose Neutron Laser or Icarus Array for the Dunecrawlers and you should be fine against almost anything.

Also don't give the short range and speedy Vanguard the near-immobile sniper rifles, but you guessed that already.

We'll be getting new loot soon with an expansion book, albeit expensive models you should probably stay away from until you know you like the army, but it's unlikely we'll be made any worse at all. They're top end of Tier 2, which is about perfect power level, or at least they were before. We'll have to see how everything resolves into 8e, but I'm hopeful.

>>53638505
that is why you should pick the army you think looks best

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So how have your 8th edition games gone so far /tg/?

Here's a quick rundown of mine so far:

Game 1 - Orks vs Dark Eldar

My lootas popped all her vehicles on turn 1/2. Her infantry spent the rest of the game chasing/being chased by Battlewagons full of Shoota Boys/Flash Gits. Tabled her on turn 4. Felt really bad. Turns out Orks are way better than Dark Eldar at being Dark Eldar.

Game 2 - Guard vs Knights

Conscripts managed to get two Knights to half health before the game ended. Commissars made them essentially immune to morale and Knights aren't heavy on sniper weapons. The Knights did heavy damage to most of the Conscript squads but weren't able to kill enough to make a difference. I held all the objectives, won by lots.

Game 3 - Guard vs Chaos Space Marines

3 Punishers and 3 Taurox Primes spent three turns eradicating everything on their side of the board. The other side of the board got slaughtered by Khorne Bezerkers who wiped out everything they touched as soon as they charged it. Lost badly, but turns out miniguns are the best guns and there's no reason to take anything else.

Game 4 - Orks vs Orks

Took an infantry heavy army, so did he. We called it on turn 3 after 6 hours (including a lunch break). 8th edition is so much fucking slower to play than 7th.

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>>53637189
Did anyone catch the Warhammer Live game earlier? Did we learn anything about the Custodes?

>>53638548
Should have mentioned:

Game 1 - 1000 pts
Game 2 - 2500 pts
Game 3 - 2000 pts
Game 4 - 2000 pts

So.. should I bother collecting SoB? How are the cahnces that they get new models this edition?

>>53638505
something you should do which I learned afterwards:
Go to GW and ask to try painting a model,
My GW allows people to paint for free (if models are bought there)

Now to awesome tips:
Buy whatever you think looks the coolest
Disregard the pushy salesmen and just get whatever you want

>>53638510
>>53638548
Do you have Alzheimers?

>>53638497

>The points values in the starter set are different.

That's fucking cheaty wank. I'm demanding my extra 137 points

>Quick make it look balanced, alter the points values
Yes, Sir, shall I alter the points in the index?
>hahahah you fucking idiot, no

>>53638495
guard armory is pretty shitty. in fact its only a slightly improved version of modern equipment.


they win because of quantity

>>53638495
They rely vastly more on the Guard than the Marines, there is theoretically one marine per planet in the Imperium, and that's before the near-constant attrition and occasionally massive losses. They are so rare it is extremely likely that an entire campaign will pass with no Marine involvement. Underwhelming equipment yes, but there's a whole goddamn lot of them.

Also, they're only the Astra Militarum for copyright. Call them the Imperial Guard, it's simpler and you won't get bitched at by any of their grognard old players.

>>53638557
They suck ass even when GW fudge the dice rolls when no one's looking.

>>53638510
Literally everything in theory and practice points to 8th being significantly faster to play. What makes you say it's slower?

>>53638495

Imperial Guard are the flesh and their tanks are the backbone. They form the majority of the fighting forces of the Imperium, and likely fight most of its battles. They have numbers where others have strength and technology or mystic powers. Individually, their equipment might be primitive and lackluster, but it's cheap, durable, and does its job.

Space Marines are specialists who can fight things that would fuck over regular humans, and get called in when they can or when something of high enough stakes to merit it. Or if they're passing by and have nothing better to do. There's much fewer of them but they pack a big punch in a small package. Their equipment might be built by tech-adepts trained for decades in building it, but for every Bolter in a Marine's hands there's probably ten million lasguns in the hands of Guardsmen just a few years out of basic.

>>53638495

To my mind...

>95% of all conflicts in the galaxy are dealt with by the Guard
>5% are Space Marines

99% of humans in the galaxy will never see a space marine before they die

>>53638571
Not that I recall.

>>53638601
Fuck.

How's it going to work when codices start coming out? Not only will those factions get new toys first, they'll also get new strats first, which is just free options. How do you have a balanced match as a faction without a codex versus one with? Or will it be as some have suggested, where all codices drop at once?

>>53638461
>"Chad Marines" literally cheat by bringing more than 100 extra points
>Still reliably BTFO by Death Guard

How can nuMarines even compete?

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>>53638566
Just wait and see if they get plastics, if they don't then don't
if they do, then do
They might get a boxed game at this point
>>53638557
Just by reading the books I can tell they're worse off since no fucking deep strike

>>53638571
Nope, but I do have Alzheimers.

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>>53638548
>The other side of the board got slaughtered by Khorne Bezerkers who wiped out everything they touched as soon as they charged it
yes
YES
CAN YOU HEAR IT
THE SOUND OF THE LAUGHTER OF THIRSTING GODS

>>53638614
Why did you make two identical posts?

>>53638584
DG are still kicking their asses 9/10 times.

>>53638607

Unfamiliarity with the new rules and a shitton of Orks and shooting/melee to resolve on the table?

>>53638612

An unlucky 1% will see a Chaos Space Marine before they die.

>>53638495

They both perform very different roles.

Astra Militarium is a vast organization. Far and away the largest organized military force in the galaxy. Tyranids are the only potential challenger, but they aren't all here yet. They might not have the flash that the other races have, but they've got grit and there are trillions of them. And as basic as their equipment might seem, it does have certain advantages in terms of logistics and maintenance.

Astartes are high quality specialist forces. Totally different beast. They aren't about fighting those intractable centuries long wars of attrition. The go in, cut out the enemy's heart, and get out. Far superior to guardsmen on a one to one basis, obviously, but there is no was they could be created in sufficient numbers to do the guard's job.

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>>53638548
>The other side of the board got slaughtered by Khorne Bezerkers who wiped out everything they touched as soon as they charged it.

MAIM KILL BURN!

>>53638631
Yeah they are fucking brutal. Getting to attack twice and all. Everything they touch just dies, although to be fair, they were fighting guard.

>>53638510
Was your dark eldar player not hiding half his army behind solid cover while deep striking the rest of his army in to shoot you in the back? That's what Dark Eldar are supposed to do.

>>53638612
>99% of humans in the galaxy will never see a space marine before they die
What the fuck. is there a source

>>53638584
Maybe it's the other way around and the index ones are the ones out of date. We'll know when the Primaris and Death Guard Codexes come out and override the index values.

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Combi plasma or Plasma gun for space marines?

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What should be my next purchase after this one? Just another set of plague marines to round forces up for 1k games?

>>53638461
Is this actually the number? Because I've got 752 written next to me here

>>53638510

>took two melee hordes, says the game is slower

>>53637704
>although HQ taxes get properly prohibitive at that point and there doesn't really seem to be a way around needing two or three 150pt Domini at that level
take inquisitors - they buff on the imperium keyword

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>>53638660

>>53638638
>>53638461
>>53638623

Ok lets play!
>Ummm, Anon, why is Ahriman there?
Oh, I wanted a fair game so i bought another 131 points in Ahriman
>That's not fair
Oh don't worry, you're still 6 points more than me, if that's what was worrying you

>>53638681
Quadrillions of humans, maybe 1 million marines in total. Marines only get deployed rarely.

Simple logic.

>>53638660

At least it wasn't a dark eldar.

Or worse, seeing dark eldar and then not dying.

>>53638681
Something like 99% of humans in the galaxy have barely even heard of space marines if they even know they exist at all. Do you have any idea how fuckhuge a galaxy is, anon? There are Hive Worlds full of trillions of humans working as slaves in the industrial pits who will go their whole lives without ever even seeing natural light from a sun.

>>53638684
Why does the bolter mag go through the plasma gun?

>>53638681
I can back that claim up but I'll be fucked if I can remember where the fuck it said that. I do remember that the 3rd edition Space Marine codex said something to the effect that there is less than one space marine for every planet the Imperium owns (but that is sufficient).

>>53638700

These are my numbers including wargear

lord of contagion 184 reaper
sorcerer 110
blightbringer 80 plasma pistol
plague marines 180 power fist plasma gun
pox walkers 120
drone 158 plague spitter x 2, plague probe

>>53637365
Do they even have an Ork guy in the studio anymore?

Who is CLASSIFIED? Sudden guest appearence by the Overfiend/Fat Bloke/Rich?

>>53638681
literally almost any black library book or SM/CSM codex
there are millions of worlds in the imperium, and most of them are peaceful mostly

normal imperial citizens dont even know the history of the imperium apart from the emperor being a god

>>53638681

You could deduce that by math alone couldn't you?

There are are only a million or so Astartes to the uncounted masses of Humanity.

>Goes to GW site to look at sniper options, still pondering if I want a Command Sniper squad with a vox or a ratling squad that can deploy all over the place
>Sees that every dedicated sniper option except for the Space Marines and Voystrians are out of stock.

Man, the GW executives must be super happy right now. So many old metal models suddenly selling like hotcakes!

>Should bring a chimera just so that enemy snipers can't get line of sight without killing a T7 W10 wall.

>>53638631
You're forgetting the BRRRT

>>53638713
Aren't marines almost constantly deployed tho? Just that there aren't enough of them

wait, did the books already come out? i thought 8th didn't official drop until next week. are people already playing with leaks?

>>53638686

Blight drones

they're hilarious in all the right ways

>>53638722
Because FUCK YOU, that's why.

>>53637421
His Griffons need to beat SOMEBODY up, anon.

How good is an xv86 battlesuit commander?

>>53638705
That costs us our Canticles unless they're in a different detachment, sadly, which defeats the point, otherwise I would 100% do that thing. Hopefully we'll get something like a Skitarii Axiarch in IA14.

>>53638729
Tom Kirby taking back command of GW

>>53638739
They could be deployed every single day, and there's so many humans, that they'd never see one.

Even if you were on the same battlefield as a marine, odds are you wouldn't see one, because they tend to go on the most dangerous missions, and again, theres so few of them.

>>53638740

Yeah the leaks were numerous and high quality enough that a lot of people have been able to play entire games of 8th using screencapped datasheets

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>>53638700

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Im so hyped, I want to paint all my orks for 8th

Do you think bloodbowl orks would make good boyz with a bit of conversion?

>>53638548
Game 1: grey Knights vs Marines (1250)
Fast and choppy, the silver bois cut the shit out of everyone and went home happy.

Game 2: Admech vs thousand sons
Damn the scarab lads are scary with flamers, outside of that not much to report aside from Admech being badass

Game 3: Knights v space marines (2k)
Knights are really good but not cheesy, and lascannons are the real winners of 8th. Cool shit.

Game 4/5/6: Admech v Marines (3k, 2k)
Bigger games are still fun, everything is more balanced, and Guilliman is a beast. Both armies perform admirably.

I'm lovin it so far

>>53638661
I don't know what is being shown here

>>53638727
I'm being a retard mate, nevermind

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>>53638351
CADIA STANDS !
no pics of my guard as i just started elysians and they're all unpainted with the exception of my heavy bolters

Anyone else having troubles opening https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/index.html#!/rosterCreator 8th edition?

>>53638089
Swarmlord is the best Nid HQ if you want early game assaults
>>53638119
Broodlord can't keep up with the genestealer slingshot so he's pointless.

>>53638681
That's pretty much what I remember them saying on one of the facebook live Q&A sessions. The average imperial citizen only has a fairly vague idea that space marines exist.

>>53638722
To heat up the bullets foo

>>53638730

>normal imperial citizens dont even know the history of the imperium apart from the emperor being a god

Exactly, your average imperial citizen

>Worships the Emperor
>Does not know of Chaos
>Does not know of the Horus Heresy
>Does not know of the Golden Age, unification wars, Iron men etc
>Does not appreciate the scale of their Empire

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>>53636541
The only complaint I'm aware of is about Riptides.

>>53638796
>Cadia Stands
>Justin D Hill
>Just in the hill
>Cadia stands only inside of hills
>Like a trench
>Cadia was littered with trenches

It's like pottery.

I know this is a very stupid question, but Cypher can't summon daemons if he's part of an Imperium army in matched play, right?

>>53638548

Game 1 - 2k - Eldar vs. Orks - I kept my jetbikes at 24" the entire game, cast doom and fortune each turn. Won by Kill Points - he did kill my Wraithknight.

Game 2 - 2k - Eldar vs. Space Marines - I kept my jetbikes at 24" and cast doom and fortune each turn. Won on objectives by having bottom turn and moving to take objectives.

Game 3 - 2k - Eldar vs. Necrons - I kept my jetbikes at 24" and cast doom and fortune each turn. Won on objectives.

Eldar don't really play that different than they used to - I just added ravagers to my list for good long range AT while my bikes handles AP.

>>53638823

But those are explosive bolts and that's a bad idea.

>>53638828
"Tau armies have less models than Knight armies, they're so overpointed." Best quote from our manager.

>>53638830

Do the Daemons have an Imperial faction keyword?

>>53638730
>and most of them are peaceful mostly
Peaceful worlds are rare. There are constant raids and attacks from Dark Eldar and Ork pirates, not to mention all the minor background alien races that don't have Codex armies like Hrud, Rak'gol and things like that. There are occasional uprisings from the oppressed lower classes that need to be put down by Arbites, or violent gang activity, to say nothing of Genestealer Cults. A rogue psyker might be born and start randomly manifesting powers at age 7-10, going on a rampage through entire cities with telekinetic powers ripping people and vehicles apart and stopping bullets, until the local PDF or witchhunters put her down or capture her, or worse, she explodes and daemons come out. The planet might be a feudal medieval society that's lost contact with the outside Imperium, ruled by rival warlords and kings of their own little fiefdoms. It's a mess out there.

>>53638830
i don't believe anyone but daemons can summon any more, not to mention cypher isn't a sorceror/psyker

>>53638834
>do the same thing every time
sounds... fun...

>>53638830
>Anybody with the #Chaos tag

>>53638828
Even then, our riptides are now close to the value they should be, given their tankiness and firepower. Clearly not as great as before, but I don't think anyone expected them to be.

>>53638297
Why wouldn't normal NID players touch an amazing HQ and extra wounds for their Tyrants by using guard? On a 2+ they take a mortal wound instead of a hive tyrant they're near. So you're forced to either kill them first or pile on enough wounds ontop of a 13 wound model

>>53638770
His look of disappointment amused me.

How do cover saves work now - I understand that it's a simple +1 to the save, but do I apply the cover save before or after the AP modifiers?

>>53638860
Everybody has a different definition of fun, faggot.

>>53638745
>howling griffons
>cruds marines of choice
>who got absolutely fucked in the gsc codex
>not getting fucked again

>>53638753
>The profits have gone out of hand lads, I'm taking command of this ship again and get it sunk properly this time

>>53638843
Your manager is a retard then. Tau don't have anything that costs as much as a Knight. Even the new nerfed Riptide Spam will outnumber Knights.

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Well I think my kitbashed Ordo Malleus terminator inquisitor is coming along okay. Ended up using parts from 3 seperate kits but it looks alright.

I tried to make him seem like a time progression of the old metal daemonhunter inquisitor model, I wish I could get a knight-style helmet with optics on it for a perfect match but oh well.

I'm thinking dark red armor, white trim, black cape so he matches the 3.5 codex inquisitor

Rules and points wise I realize Coteaz beats him by a mile but whatever, incinerators and daemonhammers are cool

>>53638854

Nope any <Chaos> character can.

>>53638830
Ignore these people who obviously don't know the rules.

Any chaos character can summon daemons.

The only point of contention would be weather "all units in an army must have the same faction" is checked once at army creation, or constantly throughout the game.

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>>53638684
>>53638722
Here we go.

>>53638896
you uh... you glued the gun to the top of his hand

>>53638893

How much are kitted riptides now? 350?

>>53638860
>>53638885

Not the guy who called you a faggot but the guy with the Eldar. We play in a very highly competitive meta so I'm going to do the thing that helps me win. I have edited the list a bit here and there - but the bulk of the list is still around the same core.

>>53638767
>bloodbowl orks
nobz probably, I think I remember reading that they are bigger than regular boyz

>>53638885
Yours makes you a shitty waac fag.
Hope you're not playing against actually hopeful 8th players.

>>53638746
It's cheaper than it used to be and has m20, slap on an advanced targeting system and go to work hunting anything with a 4+ save or worse, and even threaten 3+ saves.
It's actually a powerful model this edition with no grounding tests as a bonus.
Though it'll probably be outclassed by the xv84 when it's out

>>53638883
does the order matter? the order doesnt matter.

>>53638883
There's no before or after, you just combine all the modifiers.

Why don't they make a character who has both the IMPERIUM and CHAOS faction keywords, and the fluff to back it up? It would be the coolest thing! A man willing to work for anyone as long as it furthered his own ends.

>>53638872
Because the Swarmlord has not a lick of ranged potential.

>>53638911

That's the place terminator incinerators go, although you know what, maybe I'll see what it looks like on top. Might be a bit too tall though

i thought space marines were ingrained in imperial society just like the emperor

>>53638927

It actually does - if I have a 3+ save unit in cover and I get shot with a AP -1 weapon do I have a 3+ or 4+ save?

>>53638914
I'd have fucking quit that group, that sounds awful.

>>53638915
theyre in between boyz and nobz. I think hey would make for nice, beefy boyz

Didn't realise that the DI box has basically 1000 points of Primaris, I assumed it was like 7-800 worth

That's a bit scary that adding maybe 2 more units is a 1500 list, and it doesn't look like it can really touch anything

I just want them to be good, not ZOMG SUPER OP, but worth it

>>53638939
.........and?

Not even the guy you're responding to by the way.

>>53638936
If not bait then scroll up.

>>53638936
>who is Cypher

>>53638956

Tell me about it, I realized that by swapping my death guard out I already have 2k of the suckers

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For a new player, is the 7th edition Tau codex worth picking up?
I just want to know what the hell anything is before I assemble things.

>>53637634
Whatever you wanted, but I wouldn't continue playing.

>>53638948
Are you actually retarded?

>>53638843
well ive not played my tau yet, but i watched a game on youtube and the riptide doesnt seem too good, i dont know if ive just been spoiled or the heavy burst cannon isnt as good as the ion accelerator.
Nova charge is really not good now and i probably wont do it, they shouldve left it as it was.

>>53638948
why would it be a 4+? you add one to the save from cover, and remove one from the save from AP.
It doesn't matter what order those are applied in.

>>53638749
you don't lose the canticles, its just that the inquisitor doesn't get them afaik

>>53638950

That's fine, we really enjoy it. We all travel to lots of events with the goal of outdoing one another as well as placing well so we practice like we fight. Its not for everyone but for us our fun comes from playing the game as well as we possibly can.

>>53638828
Changes to Markerlights caused a big shitstorm here.

It's T'au
Ok?
Not Tau.
FFS

>>53638980
>7th edition
new edition is coming in two weeks.

>>53638939
It doesn't really need it. Hive Commander is too good of a special rule to not take him. It's a special rule that gives any Tyranid unit on the table a second movement phase every turn. If you don't take him you're gimping your list.

>>53638893
If you can't recognize exaggeration for comedic effect, I pity you.

>>53638996
"If you have a battleforged army, units only recieve the bonus if every model in their detachment has this ability"

>>53638617
Probably going to start by making the first few releases have weak as fuck strategies that are generally not worth taking compared to the basic ones. Then in a few months they will relax a bit and stop checking each other's work and some fucktard will release his favourite faction's codex with overpowered strategies. Then you are in a game of escalation, where every author is trying to make their army better than the competition again, with the armies that don't have any fans in the studio (i.e. orks) getting weak shit written by people who don't want to do it. This is basically inevitable when you have the people writing the setting also collecting armies and playing the game, with all the biases that brings.

>>53638936

If Chapter Approved starts doing cool stuff like Radical Inquisitors for narrative campaigns. Radical Ordo Xenos allied with Kroot Mercs, Radical Ordo Malleus allies with actual Daemons, not just Daemon Hosts. Ordo Hereticus... uh... working with Astra Militarum Primaris Psykers?

>>53639014
is that just for canticles?

>>53638996

That is incorrect - I quote

>If you have a battleforged army, units only receive the bonus if every model in their detachment has this ability

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>>53639005
>not Wu Tang Clan T'aueldari

>>53638557
No deep strike. No parry. Less attacks. No free power knife. Less L, less WS.

What is the appeal of playing guard? No offense, but they look pretty bland compared to the other factions. Very vanilla

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>mfw Tau are my favourite faction but DG are cheap as fuck and also have neat models
Fuck, being a poorfag is suffering. I mean painting and playing with DG could be a lot of fun but Tau was the first faction that really pulled me into 40k

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Grey knight player here. How's things looking for the marry sue chapter? Will I finally be able to play power armored guys and paladins?

>>53639025

I will give my left nut just for some sort of wargear options for inquisitors, I don't need anything fancy. Just let me buy a fucking invulnerable save

>>53639032
Genestealer Cult have it for Cult Ambush too.

>>53639025
>Ordo Hereticus... uh... working with Astra Militarum Primaris Psykers?

Renegades and Heretics, anon.

>>53639006
Indexes show you what stuff is?
Because my ork codex from 5th tells me and shows me what the wargear looks like.

>>53639032

Yes

>>53639044
ebay

>>53639045
Cute owl. Also, give that shield back to the Custodian you stole it from.

>>53638946
>>53638992
>>53638948
>>53638927
>mfw plasma ignores cover now.

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>>53638913
304 with HBC + 2x SMS

>>53638834
welp, looks like Reecius foiled his brains again. "Eldar not top tier", what a joke

>>53638891
speaking of sinking ships:
http://captiongenerator.com/544632/Privateer-Press-after-seeing-40k-Leaks
>>53639005
>It's T'au
>O'k?
>Not Tau.
>F'FS

FTFY

>>53638980
No. New edition launches officially in a couple weeks, and there are leaks for all current non-FW models in the OP.

Also: Magnetize everything.

>>53638222
The Riptides have the base weapons ofc as points indicate. How will you tarpit a unit that has FLY and 2D6 thrust move?

>>53639064
Third world country mate - ebay is fuckin expensive here because of shipping

>>53639045

PAGKs looks pretty decent with the storm bolter buff, they're nearly as good as sternguard against most units in shooting, let alone melee where they're quite good even against 2+ saves.

They also benefit from rhinos and razorbacks a to

>>53639049

They'd have to work in Forge World for that, which is not outside the realm of possibility.

>>53639046

We've basically got confirmation that post-Index the Codices are going to give us everything back that got lost in the shuffle between 7e and 8e, though I suspect a whole lot is going to be different

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>>53639070

It was a gift!

how much cash did you spend on your army so far?

300€ here

>>53638980
Go butter up your redshirt, some of them are cool dudes and will "lose" stock at the end of an edition rather than send it back to be pulped (or whatever happens to it).

Otherwise it should be in the OP links of this thread. I'm not sure I'd splash out full price on the codex just for the lore and that.

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Who currently has the best assault UNIT in 8th edition? Not character, but unit that you can buy multiple copies of?

>>53638470
Crush it with what? 56 T6 wounds on the Riptides alone, and they can pay 1 wound to get 3+ invuln (ideally only 1 or 2 will only need it based on smart positioning away from threats) while wrecking your shit with high rending HBC and SMS.

>>53639005
Eeh by gum, it's t'au.

>>53639080

I think FLG has done a fair job of talking about 8th but I also think that regardless of their 'tell it how it is bit' they've got an emotional investment in the success of 8th since they were involved in it's play testing phase.

Eldar are still a very good army, they're harder to run since bikes aren't troops anymore and you do have to think about your movement but if you played Eldar before the brain-death that was their 7th ed iteration (and 6th to some degree as well) you should still see very good consistent results with them. For me they remind me in some ways of 3rd-5th where they still are a good army but they aren't full out auto-pilot easy now.

>>53639112
I own the second largest Ork army in my city, and I assume, my country, after our store manager. Also collect Guard, Tyranids, and Marines.

Over the course of the last 15 years, I'd say approx. £8000.

>>53639124
Blood angels

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>>53639124
i hear harlequins are pretty mean this time

>>53639128

Easier than you would think, although I'm not sure I would describe it as crushing so much as wounding them down to BS6+ before going to the next one and having more bodies than could possibly be killed.

>>53639173
Except they are faggots.

>>53638767
They are bigger than boyz and have tiny heads.

>>53639124
Admech

>>53638453
I think the way it works is if you order before a certain day of the week you get it sent to the store with their usual shipment (which I think arrives late fridays in the UK). So if you order early enough it will be in the store on release day. Not sure what the latest day to get that is though and can't find the information on the GW site.

Thoughts on foot Ynnari? Warwalkers, wraithknights, foot guardians. Love eldar but hate wave serpents.

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So what exactly is the benefit of jump packs this edition?
Similarly, vanguard veterans or assault marines?

Is Craftworld Eldar as bad as FLG makes them out to be?

>>53638142

4 lascannons, 9 missile launchers, and 9 hunter killer missiles won't cut it?

>hot
>little
>hands

>>53638742
Bloat or blight?

>>53639211
If a Riptide kills a 1 unit per turn, that's 12 units by turn 3. So pretty much all of the enemy's army by turn 3.

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>>53638828
2 scoops?

>>53639268

Move movement generally means you will find it easier to get the charge and the first round of combat.

I would say the latter since assault marines generally can't take enough weapons to take out other melee units.

>>53639306
>If a Riptide kills a 1 unit per turn
what game are we even playing

>>53639286

yeah on sentinel bodies.

you need either a counter assault unit or something that can stand being looked at funny without dying.

>>53638505
Get ONE box and build/paint it. Then another.

>>53639306
>Killing a unit a turn with a BS4+ HBC

Is this bait or are you from some bizarro dimension where the Riptide was buffed in 8E?

>>53639268
Fly allows you to fall back and shoot

>>53639156
Sanguinary Guard?

A lot of BA players are bummed about Death Company being outshined by Khorne Berserkers.

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>>53639385
Except, you know, special characters are 0-1

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>>53639385

>>53638505

Come here next week, get all the rules for free.

In the meantime, look at all the factions and pick the one you like the look of or like the background for.

Then buy the starter set.

Dark Imperium is over-costed.

>>53639405
hes talking about the fact that saint girl doesn't have this rule

>>53638828
>coldstar adds 20 to movement when advancing instead of d6
Is that a 40" move?

>>53639385

Is this the new Fabius Bile vs. 3 Titans?

>>53639405
Celestine doesn't have that rule.

>>53639417

next week? kek

>>53639417
>Dark Imperium is over costed
>under 90€ from an LGS, basically paying 30€ for book and 50€ for the rest of the stuff

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>>53639237
it's not gay if it's an elf. you haven't fucked a clown girl before? you're missing out man

Newfag anon here. Prepare for shit quality questions.

Are Salamanders decent, anons, even in low-mid tier points? I like me some "BY FIRE BE PURGED" in the morning. How would you build a ~500 pts army for them? Can you build up on them later on, or are they only good early/late? I'm not looking to be a power gamer with the guys who invited me, but I don't want to build a shit list which can't handle the heat on the table.

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>>53639405

>>53638505
Look into the lore and themes of each faction and pick what appeals to you the most on that front. Picking an army based on balance is a waste of time. Almost every army has a start collecting box that gives you a massive deal in terms of cost per unit and gives you a lot of stuff.

Also >>53639365
is right, do one at a time. You don't wanna get a massive backlog of shit you'll never get around to painting.

>>53639449
>elf
>not gay

>>53639405
hence the filename suggesting GW proofread their shit

>>53639455
Only a cum-guzzling retard would think you can field more than one celestine.

>>53638566
There haven't been any real, substantial rumors about plastic sisters since Veridian and Celestine, although GW has commented on how popular those minis were.

>>53639455
DEEPEST LORE

>>53639045
nice paintjob I guess, but the base I don't like
also stolen weapon, shield and owl
I'm sure the Treeman misses his friend dearly

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How well will this list likely do if ported over to 8th edition?

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Played my first 8th game on the weekend with this list. It was awesome

> Daemon Princes are beasts
> Rhinos are stupidly effective
> Typhus's 7" cause mortal wounds bubble is hilarious
> I put spawn in my list just cause but they turned out to be my MVP SSSOOO good

-- HQ --

Typhus - 164 points
> Miasma of Pestilence, Plague Wind

Nurgle Daemon Prince - 180 points
> Wings, 2x Talons
> Warptime

-- Troops ---

10x Poxwalkers - 60 points
10x Poxwalkers - 60 points
10x Poxwalkers - 60 points

7x Plague Marines - 193 points
> 2x Plasma gun, Power Fist
+ Rhino - 72

7x Plague Marines - 193 points
> 2x Plasma gun, Power Fist
+ Rhino - 72

7x Plague Marines - 201 points
> 2x Melta gun, Power Fist
+ Rhino - 72

-- FA --

5x Spawn - 165 points

Foetid Bloat-Drone - 158 points

Total: 1650 points