Warhammer 40,00 General /40kg/

first for tau suck now :(

First for da S4 orkz!

Third for ze glorius tyranid masterace

LEAK TALONS NOW

NOW
O O
WON

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>>53513793

>Leave Marinelets to us

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>>53513821
>Orks are a melee race
>M5

S4 orks? Get the fuck out of here

top10 for DING DONG THE TAU IS DEAD, THE TAU IS DEAD, THE TAU IS DEAD

>>53513821
>>53513822
>>53513834
rekt idiots

>>53513840
The guy on the left's face tho.

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I used to run Karamazov at the helm of my GK army and used "By any Means Necessary" with my Dreads on the front line, is this still viable? Or do we not have enough data to know.

>>53513840
How many layers of inbreeding are they on ?

We get any imperial agent leaks?

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>>53513845
HOW NEED MOVE WHEN WE HAVE BATTLEWAGONS, DA JUMP AND STORMBOYZ???

>>53513845
battlewagonz, weard-boyz, zog.

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WHERE THE DEMON LEAKS AT

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>>53513840
>the mutant has a fallout shirt on

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>>53513845
Good thing our vehicles can get us close to the action amirite?

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i wanna chaos these up, what would i use them as? cata termies with what?

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>>53513840

>>53513904
Maybe you should have thought that out before you decided to disembark farther away from your target.

>>53513909
We must do Sevatar with chainsword from this photo

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>>53513909

>>53513886
>>53513888

>Da Jump
>What is psychic focus?

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>>53513861
Just to clarify I meant Dreadknight, not Dreadnought.

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>mfw I see the ork leaks

>>53513886
GW said stormboyz could move around like crazy now

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1/4

Does anyone have the fixed primaris marine paint scheme planner thing? The one without holes in the lines?

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>>53513969
2/4

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>>53513793
>vehicles and powerful models in general are significantly more expensive and less effective
>troops are the same or cheaper than before, and taking lots of them gives you a shit load of command points
Is... Is this it? Is it finally the edition where most armies will actually want to take Troops as the bulk of their force?

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>>53513984
3/4

>>53513813
Do they? I thought their snipers did mortal wounds, and their carbines had armor mods

>>53513830
I feel you there. It's like they translated all the current stuff into 8th for Guard but made sure to change it up as little as possible. Ogryn getting +1 attacks on the charge is nice, but it feels like nothing because we already had that. It's just in 8th charge bonus attacks aren't a thing. Based on that I assume Bullgryn are basically unchanged as well. I'm sure they will be overcosted and bad once again even with Power Mauls.

I'm really disappointed with the vehicle weapons. I have no hope for any of the special characters either. I want Straken to be good, but I doubt he will be anything to write home about. Probably a 6 inch buff like 7th instead of his 12 inch from 5th. I guess putting Priests near thing would be nice for Guard blobs. 2 Attacks base at all times is nice.

>>53513969
>Zoans
>3 - 6
If warpblast is still a power I'm gonna lol.

>>53513969
HERE WE GO

AW SHIT

>>53513998
No, MSU seems like the way to go still.

>>53513861
>Karamazov
>leading the Ordo Malleus' chamber militant
Everything has lost its flavour

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>>53514006
4/4

>>53513969
MUH BUUUUGS

>>53513904
For this to happen wouldn't you have to charge the rhino first instead of the marines?

>>53513969
Does anyone have Ork leaks?

>>53514020
Even with MSU pretty much guaranteeing that you won't be going first anymore on top of everything else?

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>>53513969
>almost 50% reduction on harpy

>>53514036
T-thats not all the biomorphs r-right

>>53513926
You must disembark before you move anything, so making everything an assault vehicle was just a ruse by GW. Im honestly thinking they dont playtest this shit.

>>53514020
Lots of individual mechanics incentivize larger units, like the Tyranid rule to buff large gene stealer units, the way Mob Rule for orks works now, and the way Reanimation Protocols works for Necrons now.

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Any chance of images of the units as well.. for research purposes of course

I still don't know what the 400 pts Space Marine LoW is.

>>53514060
Anon.... We knew it was going to happen...

The Gods compel you to post Daemon leaks!

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>>53513969
>>53513984
>>53514006
So a classic Screamer-Killer (Carnifex with bio-plasma and a pair of massive scything talons) would come to 96. Nice.

>>53514060
#YesAllBiomorphs

>>53514060
Fuckin hell

We wait for the real Codex for those I guess....................

But we should probably discuss fucking 12POINT GENESTEALERS WITH CLAWS INCLUDED

>>53514060
No factions will have their fancy options/relics/strats until their individual codex releases. Tau players were confused about not seeing Signature Systems, etc.

>>53514036
>non weapons biomorphs are inly sacs and glands

where the fuck is my regeneration SKREEEEEEEEEEE

>>53514070
Girlyman.

>>53514058
you still need to pay for guns and shiet

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>>53513904
>what is combined arms
>what is blitzkrieg
>what is tactics
https://youtu.be/H4krV180eRQ?t=94

>>53513798
no u are the senpai anon

>>53514070
Lord Commander Eldarfucker.

>>53514066
Yes, and how does that change what I said?

Disembark to the sides. They are still allowed to move, so maybe they should move forward. After that, they can assault.

>>53514068
The only thing mob rule does is make large units not as bad as they would be otherwise. It's still better to just be in small units.

>>53513984
>deathspitter with slimer maggots
Why can no one write good-sounding shit for nids anymore

Is it so hard to do something like "Deathspitter Peraphycite" you fucking mongs. Get a real biologist in there.

>>53514066
they've clearly playtested this. Just reading through the rules let's you see all the changes brought about by heavy playtesting

>>53514143
They also buff surrounding units. Have one mob of 30 surrounded by more moderate groups, and they all use ld30

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Guard players report in.

Who here excited to be mid to low tier again?

>>53514101
Tau players got a full list of support systems.

Tyranids are literally down to just two biomorphs now. The Faction built around being the most customizable. Fucking sigh.

I'm not that bent out of shape about it considering this is just the index but when we finally get a real Codex again it better change.

the 400pts space marine low is a terminus ultra

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>>53514116
Not him.

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>>53514174
151st Autismal Rifle Brigade reporting for duty!

>>53514189
ter something

>>53513813
rip storm of fire :(

>>53514142
Can't move after disembarking.

>>53514183
>Tau players got a full list of support systems.
They lost the horse fist and all relics. Everyone is lacking their relics. What are you talking about?

In this moment, I'm at loss, because they confirmed that
drop pods have 0 attacks

No Daemon leaks makes for a sad nurgling.

>>53514174
The real victory is annoying your opponent with a 20 min move phase with the khaki tide.

>>53514188
>terminus ultra
2 TL Lascannon Sponsons
TL Lascannon Hull
2 Lascannon Sponsons

Eight Lascannons. Yes please.

>>53514183
We got our baseline support systems, but zero signature systems. We lost eight options for our Commanders and Crisis captains.

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I know this isn't how times arrow works anymore but I thought it was funny in my head.

>>53514219
chaos demons leaks? and Rhino stats plx

I'll suck your dick for the Dark Angels points list.

>>53513793
"What goes through the mind of a 10,000 year old superhuman warrior as he is buried in a wave of screaming green retards who were literally born yesterday"
stabby bitz

>>53514207
Seems legit.

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>>53514210
Go ahead and read that last paragraph. Go on. I'll wait here.

>>53514212
No one is talking about one-per-relics you fucking retard. We're talking about standard wargear. Tau still have a huge list of it, while nids are down to two fucking biomorphs, when they used to have like 30.

Granted a fair amount of them are just weapons now, but it's still maddening they don't have shit like extended carapace and regeneration on there.

are there any news concerning admech in 8th ed?

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post yfw Taufags are still crying over not being WAAC-tier anymore

>>53514241
Good, now you know how we Nids feel. Suck it taufag

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>>53513969
>genestealer
>10 pts
>12 pts if you for some reason have to buy rending claws for them
>genestealers where just massively buffed
>mfw


also
>massive sctyhing talons (tervigon and maleceptor)
>maleceptor
what did they mean by this?

regardless you are my hero anon

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>>53514124
>Blitzkrieg
>Vehicles having to drop slow moving infantry before utilizng any of their speed

>>53514066
it's a real big boost for factions without assault units
now i don't have to put my dedicated melee units out in the open for a turn where they can be picked of at leisure but can keep them safe inside the transport instead
this is on top of the huge buff to movement speed most transports seem to have gotten

Quantam Shielding looks hilariously annoying. And with Monoliths having 20 wounds now, and a new version of the Eternity Gate power back, my question is this: what will GW do to make them useless in this edition?

>>53514258
Riptides are still 2+ armour and have a 5++ invuln, were all doomed.

>>53514242
Some kind of british humor?

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>>53514174

Elysian Drop Troops ready to play second fiddle to Primary Marines.

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>>53514258
I almost feel bad for them

>>53513821
Orkz is da strongest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENRkX3x7Kec

>>53514261
>>12 pts if you for some reason have to buy rending claws for them
You do, but holy shit. 12pt stealers with the purestrain 5++, Advance+charge, 8" movement, 3 attacks base.

>>53514229
That's what I'm aiming for. FRSRF and Priests giving blobs of 50 100 attacks.
>>53514282
Here here. My Kasrkins and Scions are ready to be pushed to the side.

>>53514251
Keep in mind that vehicles are going to be able to charge much further than infantry, considering how much faster they are.

The point seems to be (and I may be wrong) that Infantry who get out are being left behind, and the vehicle they are in should be carrying them with their improved movement speed and letting them disembark at the END of the movement phase.

Infantry getting out when the vehicle could be carrying them much further is quite silly. Again, maybe I missed the point.

>>53514271
Nothing, they want to actually sell the fucking models again.

>>53513813
I'm just happy I can discuss Tau now without automatically being called a fucking WAACfag now or having to prove I'm not Riptide/Stormsurge spamming.

I'm seeing a problem with Psykers and the new Psychic Focus(Rule of One form AoS).

In a 1000 point game Psykers are game changing. Warptime for Chaos for example on a key melee unit could change the game completely. But as the points increase the relevance of this power decreases and decreases as you can only use it once per turn.

So now the psychic phase fails to scale with game size and armies that tend to bring more psykers as their armies naturally grow(Daemons and TSons) mostly get screwed by limiting their ability to effect the game in the same fashion. Thoughts?

Does anyone have the carnifex's statline? It was posted here yesterday I think

>>53514325
WAACfag

>>53514212
>Advanced Targetting System
>Multi-Tracker
>Shield Generator
>Early Warning Overrride
>Target Lock
>Stim Injectors

Versus
>Toxin Sacs
>Adrenal Glands

>people actually played ghostkeel tau and jetbike eldar

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>>53513969
please post maleceptor stats
I must know anon
I need to know if its worth 184 points

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>>53514242

While I like the core rules of the game, 8th seems like it's going to be mind-numbingly bland until they start pumping out actual codexes.

http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2017/05/sisters-of-battle-leaks.html

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>Implying Oblits could even harm a tank let alone Guilliman

>>53513909
Im confus, is that a boy or a girl?

>>53514344
>Carnifex
>67 points
>M7" WS4+ S6 T7 W8 A4 3+
>It doesn't degrade
>if charge does mortal wound on a 4+
>Crushing claws are Sx2 AP-3 damage 3
>Monstrous Scything Talons S: User AP-3 damage 3
>Bonemace S8 Ap-1 d3 damage.
>If with 2 weapons +1 attacks
>2 Scything talons reroll 1 to hit.

>>53513969

Haruspex is 267 pts base
What the Fuck does it do now?

>>53514325
God, what a counter-WAACfag, I bet you only bought Tau because they were shit.

>>53514341
>Psychic Focus
Thought there was no rule of one in 8th.

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>>53514258

>>53514370
>Hair tied back
>Wearing a choker
>Obvious girl face

I WONDER

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>>53514368
>>53514368
>>53514368
8th ed is going to be fucking awful...

>>53514368
These are all valid discussion points.

>>53514388
Hurry anon, go to ebay and sell it, now that it's still worth something

>>53514360
>>53514374
sorry, I don't have the index I just shared the pics

>>53514174
I'll still fight the good fight with my combined arms Guard but honestly fuck the new blast rules they're so fucking shit.

Have we got SM tank weapon costs yet?

I want to know whether to buy anything before the box comes out just to practice some hobby

>>53513969
>tyranid warrior
>20 points
>lash whip and bone sword
2 points

>in 8th where there is no instant death you can get warriors with freaking lash whip and bone sword for 22 points
holy shit warrior spam incoming

>>53514381
There is for matched play. As in the only one that matters.

>>53514410
What, you don't like rolling a one for your battle cannon and then needing a 5+ to hit if you moved so you have a chance of killing a single ork?

>>53514404
You kidding? I had half my shit on ebay as soon as I read the 8th edition rules. It's selling like hot cakes. All the kiddies getting their parents to buy shit for them. Now GW has bumped up prices, they're comparing my prices (I put things up at RRP at the time) to the current prices, and my stuff seems cheaper.

I'm making a profit on my models. I'm getting more for them than I bought them for. Praise be.

Why are librarians called librarians? Like did they used to work in a library?

>>53514416
>in 8th where there is no instant death you can get warriors with freaking lash whip and bone sword for 22 points
just a guess, but: mortal wound on wound of 6?

>>53514258

Eldar are the ones who deservie it nost

>>53514374
It's only 278 after adding the grasping tongue (both its melee weapons are 0)

Supposedly it can actually make it into combat now and becomes a fucking monster once it starts killing things there by getting extra attacks and healing Wounds whenever it eats people, and every time it takes a Wound it deals a mortal wound on a 6 from acid blood

>>53514036
>no flesh hooks
>no regen
>no acid blood

why?

>>53514440
Pretty much, They work in Librariums for their chapters. It has all their records and shit

>>53514426
We still don't know if we get Lumbering Behemoth back. There's still a chance we can fire all weapons at once at full BS.

>>53514440
They keep historical records of chapter.

>>53514341
Completely agree, as a TSons player this really cripples my shit. I field 8 psykers total in 2K points at the moment. 2 of them being Rubric sorcs, a Scarab Occult, 4 normal Sorcs and a DP. Disregarding Rubrics who can only cast Mini-Smite, the rest will simply not have enough variety to be fun and marginally useful and even less flavourful.

I don't care on being top-tier, but I do care about my fluff and flavour. From what I've seen, this will relegate my army to using either few actual powers that aren't Smite or I'll be forced to downsize my amount of psykers to remove gross redundancy, which will cripple my theme and my fun.

>>53514440
You know how Jump Assault Marines are called Jump Assault Marines?

You know how Techmarines are called Techmarines?

You know how Apothecaries are called Apothecaries?

>>53514426
In fairness, in 7th your template could scatter off entirely and you'd hit nothing.

>>53514443
>You can roll a d3 or just choose the powers you want
Why the fuck would you ever roll?

>>53514455
Acid blood is baked into Haruspex and probably Pyrovores at least. Maybe Toxicrene too.

Flesh hooks are under ranged weapons.

Regen is on OOE but it's really unfortunate if it's not on all the MCs :c

>>53514174
elysian reporting in
really happy my flying circus won't be cheesy /ultra annoying to anyone that didn't counterbuild his list
also like the possibility of voluntary kamikaze-ing my own flyers

>>53514441
I dont even care about the instant death on 6s part, they're freaking power swords and the lash whip probably fucks people over when they charge you first or some shit.

>>53514373
Cheers

>>53514455
>tfw you will never have morphofex again

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>>53514174
Still got my vanquishers and executioners! (Probably)

>>53514404
>>53514439
t. weeb bait faggot that thinks 7th can be better than 8th.

>>53514441
Boneswords are I believe D3 damage and AP -2, don't remember if they add a strength bonus.

Lash Whips have ASF.

If you take two boneswords you get +1 attack.

>>53514300
dont forget 4 attacks if you have 10+ models

>>53514443
>Storm Caller
In 7th it made more sense, now it basically means that the storm is so strong it can stop bullets and lasers

>Jaws of the World Wolf
This can (unreliably) really cripple a slow unit or even outright kill a character. It has the (unlikely) potential of inflicting 7 mortal wounds on a terminator unit

>>53514474
That was pretty rare against a big horde. Now it's incredibly rare to kill 4 or 5 models with a cannon.

>>53514475
Some people think it's more "fun" when you have no idea what any of your units do until you're already playing, for some reason.

Do we happen to have the points costs for a Sisters of Battle Multi-Melta? A non-twin-linked one?

Also, I can't seem to find the Space Marine ranged weapons from A to G, only from the Grav-Gun onwards.

>>53514495
I like to think that the design team saw what happened to Magnus in that livestream and went "Huh, that is some dirty bullshit, better fix that"

>>53514495
>>53514476

Why are there not Helfrost weapons on more things? Freeze rays are cool

If anyone has control over what is being leaked I'd like to see Legion of the Damned

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Now someone leak me some DA god damn.

what if gw did a leak and in the shadow over the page was the shape of a dick?

>>53514174
T-thanks based gw.

>>53514502
Vanquisher sounds super eh, but I'm hoping Executioners will be great.

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>>53513813
>>53513852
>>53514258
Any Tau player kicking and screaming over the new rules is a colossal retard. Markerlights are infinitely better, as they aren't used up and all their effects are cumulative. Infantry stayed roughly the same in points costs, Suits ballooned in price (as they should have) and vehicles have had moderate increases in cost (a great trade off for the huge survivability boost they got). Stealth Suits are better, Broadsides are better, Drones are all better, there's plenty of Assault weaponry so you don't have to worry about firing at -1 BS on the move, and if you do, there's markerlights to compensate for and eliminate that penalty. Crisis Suits are now tough as balls mobile gun platforms with shit like an 8pt upgrade that gives -1 AP to every weapon on it, and for the infantry fags like me, the Tidewall Shieldline just became a T6 W10 open-topped transport that inflicts mortal wounds on whatever fires at it when it saves on a 6. I dub thee, the Pathfinder Chariot.

>>53514006
>>53513984
>>53513969
>>53514036

No powers of the Hive Mind?

>>53514505
ASF?

>>53514515
>It has the (unlikely) potential of inflicting 7 mortal wounds on a terminator unit
dont forget its 50% cast rate, and the unlikeliness of actually inflicting that much damage.

>>53514475
To keep the game random? narrative situations? fun? i dont know some people like things like that.

>>53514470
>I field 8 psykers total in 2K points at the moment.
And this is where its gets really awkward with the new Psychic Focus I agree. But as you say this is a natural army for you so unless theres some new information coming to light I dont agree with it.

Beside your army now functions extremely differently in Power Point games compared to matched play.

>>53514538
Always Strikes First

>>53514528
Please Crusader Squads for Black Templars

>>53514512
So [Cunt] and [Cunt on bike] are now separate things.

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>>53514174
Firstborn reporting in

>Vanquisher Cannon deals up to 6 wounds with S8
>Lascannon heavy weapon team deals up to 18 wounds with S9 for a lot less
Vanquishers are completely useless now. I'll probably replace both Vanquishers with numerous Lascannon HW squads

>>53514443
Space Wolves are hypocritical psykers again confirmed!

>>53514538
Always strikes first

>>53514533
>Tidewall Shieldline just became a T6 W10 open-topped transport that inflicts mortal wounds on whatever fires at it when it saves on a 6
Woah. Any idea what its base save is?

>>53514564
Which has a longer life? The tank.

>>53514542
>having no idea what your own battle-hardened army can do
>narrative

>>53514570
4+

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>>53514564
Literally all around better weapon

>>53514479
>Regen is on OOE but it's really unfortunate if it's not on all the MCs :c

That's good, faggots would only cry if every nid healed a wound back per phase.

And OOE is finally unique and fucking awesome. My god i can't wait to get him back on the table..

Crush claws are damage 3, and he has like 5 attacks generates more, he's going to be a powerhouse

>>53514558
that's a really nice army anon

Can monsterous creatures hide behind gaunts, gants and warriors?

>>53514573
a 30-man platoon with 3 lascannons embedded in it will probably be cheaper and more survivable

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>>53513970
this one?

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>>53514174
Ready to hit hard with blobs, Bullgryn, Priests, Straken and Commissars.
>>53514558
Love your army. Still gotta finish my Vostroyan vet squad.

>>53514540
That's the reason I ended up saying that it's unreliable twice

>>53513906
Pair of Lightning Claws, because they gots no guns.

>>53514589
Only if it has less than 10 wounds

>>53514543
Personally I don't give two shits about narrative play, that and open play will mostly be used to train newbies. Matched play is where most people will play as it's supposed to be the fairest and most balanced game mode that the game is built around.

It wouldn't be as major a blow if we didn't get so few psychic powers. Both combined just make Psykers in general a very bland unit.

>>53514593
Yes, thanks

>>53513969
>Tyrannocyte - 98 points
lmao marines get fucked

>>53514254
Extended carapace haven't been a thing since 5th ed

>>53514528
So now the Frost and Wolf Claws are the same thing, except the Wolf ones have +1 attack if two are taken, but the Frost ones are always taken as a couple too anyway

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>>53514386
Did you just imply that boys can't wear chokers?
That girl can't be more than 12 or 13, why the hell is she wearing a choker!!

>>53514607
No, that's only Characters.

I'm gonna take a wild guess that the only thing in the whole Tyranid army list with the Character tag is the Broodlord.

>>53514580
Based on the leaks so far, that is better. Hope it is included the the Index

So I have been out of the thread for most of the day, anyone cares for a quick rundown? I see some yiffs leaks and some talks about ork leaks earlier?

>>53514580
It's funny too, since in fluff the double Lascannon russ was supposed to be a stop-gap anti-tank loadout because Vanquisher cannons were so rare and hard to come by.

They've made the jury-rigged replacement better than the actual gun it's replacing, since a pair of Lascannons is going to do far more work than a long distance melta shot

>>53514629
Probably the daughter of some guy who loved 90s strong women who had chokers and she saw some of that shit growing up. Probably thought it was cool.

And boys who wear chokers don't look like that.

>>53514631
and Swarmy

>>53514629
Nice tumblr b8, I replied

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>>53513969
>6x tyranid warriors with boneswords and scything talons
>6x tyranid warriors with bonesword+lashwhip and scything talons
>20 genestealers with rending claws
>3 carnifexes with 2xscything talons

>only 777 points

>>53514617
I know. People have been waiting for nids to get a real Codex again like 4th that actually has all the fucking biomorphs included in their kits. Of course, knowing now how stripped down every army is in the indexes, I no longer expected that to be the case for us here, but I will be bloody mad if they don't fix it with the Codex release.

>>53514643
>>53514634
>2 mortal wounds + d6 normal damage
Bam, fixed

>>53514658
That is dirt nasty. I should've gotten nids.

>>53514629
They've been doing this shit for going on 20 years, man

Don't walk outside or you'll see much worse. There's 12 year olds wearing only spandex leggings, usually with a provocative phrase plastered over their ass.
And their mother walking beside them wearing almost the exact same thing

>>53514629
>That girl can't be more than 12 or 13, why the hell is she wearing a choker!!
You don't get out much these days, do you?

>>53514558

What are those dudes wit the long rifles on the left (not the ratlings)? Anti-tank rifles?

Are people still selling their armies on Ebay like memes?

>>53514646
I don't know how it is elsewhere in the world but here where I live chokers are basically part of a whore's uniform. I find it super inappropriate to see young girls wearing them.

>>53514658
can still fit in a flyrant for under 1k

>>53514658
Needs delivery systems, a bit of psychic support and a fuckton of hormagaunts and we're talking.

>>53514683
They're the 90s version of tramp stamps pretty much everywhere, afaik

>>53514684
>taking Flyrant when swarmlord exist
come on anon

>>53514512
The list seems to be lacking some options, like the Dreadnought or the Wolf Lord

>>53514658
Lmao. Ok then.

>>53514665
I'd personally go for
>+1 to hit against things with the vehicle/titan/monster keyword
>3d3 damage

Makes it more accurate and reliable against big singular targets, while not making it too crazy in damage value with oneshot potential

no word on chapter tactics???

>>53514683
It's part of a whore's uniform everywhere to be honest. Where I live we have 13 year olds wearing booty shorts that expose some of their ass. It's disgusting. What's worse is the moms usually are the ones dressing their daughters up like whores or supporting it.

>>53514512
No Bjorn?

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Anyone remember the story about the Sister of Battle who became brainwashed / hypnotized by a Genestealer Patriarch? She ended up becoming the brood mother for the cult and some revered saint, helping bring down her order and much of the planet.

>>53514717
They claim it's for "comfort" and that they're dressed "appropriately for the weather," fucking lol.

>>53514174
Got my tank and artillery companies all lined up and ready to stay on the shelf

>>53514726
Casts a Hungry Shadow.
Or something along those lines

Wait wait. If Scarab Occult have All Is Dust what does that means for their 2+ save? Assuming nothing modifies it higher does that equal a reroll?

>>53514683
>not liking young whores
dont come to europe

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>>53514670
>mfw visiting my aunt and two of my female cousins, aged 13 and 11 begun watching the Burlesque movie.

Shit ain't right mang, but what can I do, I ain't their guardian.

>>53514722
You blind son? He's literally the first thing listed

>>53514722
Yeah that's... weird. Considering in one of the preview articles GW specifically mentioned him and how he has an ability that grants an extra command point for taking him, so it's not like they squatted him.

>>53514684
>>53514706
>forgetting about Tyranid prime

If you're gonna warrior spam, you might as well bring the guy who makes them better at hitting stuff.
>warriors are most likely 3+ to hit
>prime will make them 2+

>>53514726
>Brood mother

I can't help but think of a woman allowing her cultists to gangbang her 24/7 so she can shit out as many little cultists as often as possible

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>>53513969
>biovore 24 + spore mines launcher 11 = 35
>pyrovore 23 + flamespurt 15 = 38

>S4 T4 W4 4+
>flamespurt range 10" assD6 S5 Ap-1 D1 (hits automatically)
>in close combat the pyrovore has S5 ap-3 d1
>if it suffers a wound on a 6 it gives a mortal wound to the enemy
>when it dies on a 4+ it gives d3 mortal wounds to the closest enemy within 3"

>spore lsuncher 48" heavy1 hits on 4+
>if it hit roll a d6
>1: nothing; 2-5: mortal wound; 6: d3 mortal wounds
>if the shot misses place a spore mine between 6" of the target but 3" away from any enemy
>if it comes within 3" it explodes as above

biovores have become anti armour instead of anti infantry now, they look nasty

>>53514386
>Assuming gender
>In the current year no less

>>53514744
I am European m8

>>53514742
2+, 1s still
Tho Ahriman supposedly gives RR 1s.

>>53514717
BUT you better not sexualize females OR expect them to dress more modestly, because you're a filthy white male you original sin piece of shit

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>psychic powers are one attempt per round in matched play
>when you only have about 3 per discipline to begin with
>thousand son armies are just going to end up being smite spammers and nothing else
way to completely kill the flavor GW

>>53514722
>>53514746
It's there probably because he can change his weapons, unlike most named characters

However the list is lacking the generic Dreadnought or the Wolf Lord without the Thunderwolf

>>53514634
>>53514643
Do we know for sure the vanquisher cannon stats or are we making the (valid) assumption that it's a Heavy 1 S8 AP-3 Dd6 rerolling damage gun based on the current gun?

>>53514756
I identify as an ork waaaaghhh!!!

>>53514742
Good question. Maybe it means something different for them. bespoke rules and all that.

>>53514767
Yeah I'm worried about tzeentch daemons too

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Anyone know any decent substitutes or ways to kitbash Ork artillery? I'm not $46/model.
Bonus points for doing it with only official GW models.

>>53514742
No. It means they still have a 2+ against AP -1 weapons with D1. In cover, they have a 2+ against AP -2 weapons with D1.

The exalted sorcs give them a re-roll though, which means they're going to be almost fucking impossible to take out without stronk AP weapons or sniping the sorc first.

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>>53514717
Societal collapse can't come soon enough

>>53514746
Oh shit was looking at characters. Confusing shit but ok.

>>53514778
Did you see the leaked Tzeentch Daemon tree?

>It's trash.

>>53514779
you can make like 3 guns from a single mek gun box if you are clever.

>>53514706
>I cant help myself sometimes
also dont know what he costs

>>53514512
Does anyone has the cost list for the Blood Angels? Do they have units like the Dreadnought in it?

>>53514639
>So I have been out of the thread for most of the day, anyone cares for a quick rundown?
Tau stuff was leaked, and Tau WAACfags have been rectally devastated ever since. (Short version: They got hit with the nerf bat pretty hard, and there's a 20-50% increase on pt costs for models like Riptides (base unit is now ~300 pts), Stormsurges and Broadsides, among other things).

>>53514647
>and Swarmy
Honestly, that poor bastard jobs so hard these days he's better off just pretending to be a normie Hive Tyrant and discarding his character status at this point.
I mean, due to the fluff inconsistencies surrounding the Octarius War, ol' Swarmlord just died to 'death by a million Choppas' by frenzied random Orks on Octaria. and he won't even be able to fight Ghazzy when he shows up with Leviathan's second wave because Thraka's leaving the Octarius Sector to go create a never-ending war in another sector of a similar size to Armageddon/Octarius. Meaning he'll probably job to regular Orks AGAIN because the plot demands it.

Swarmy just can't catch a damn break.

>>53514729
Exactly. My personal crusade to help fight whores uniforms is to shout at them from the car by calling them faggots or sluts. The fag one is usually the funniest because you occasionally hear a faint "But I'm a girl!" and that always makes me chuckle.
>>53514764
Gotta check that face first if you ever see booty shorts from the back. Might look nice from a distance until you get close and see their annoying puffy face with braces that just screams I'm a stupid 12 year old.

I'm starting to hate new blast rules.

>>53514755
holy fuck, is that confirmed?

>>53514779
Trukk + Mekgunz

Can get about 4 Mekgunz from that set up.

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>>53514174
Newcomer to Guard for 8th Ed here, looking forward to many glorious and probably avoidable last stands.

>>53514797
Ah no, I didn't see it. can you share please

>>53514800
Really now? Maybe it's not such a bad deal then.

>>53514761
dont come east

http://imgur.com/a/pqYKP
just that.

Quick Necrons question about the new Quantum Shielding:

Does it count damage done per weapon, or by weapon type?

That is, if I take 4 wounds from bolters, do I have to roll 4 dice and try to get under a 1 for each (impossible), or do I roll 1 dice and have to get under a 4?

>>53514815
Nice, thanks friend-o

>>53514755
>they said tyranids where bad at range
jesus fucking christ we're returning to 4th edition

>>53514813
Yes. also mortal wounds everywhere.

>>53514771
I've only heard rumor, which I hope will not be true. I'd rather not ditch my Vanquishers

>>53514814
I forgot to put the-a name

the only thing I'm not sure about if it's the pyros have to buy the acid maw or it's built in

>>53514740

Ty

>>53514753

I think that's pretty much what happens.

>>53514767
Where does it say this? I thought it was one attempt per psyker.

>>53514771
I'm personally holding out for it to be a flat 2d6 damage.

>>53514834
You mean the 4th edition where tyranids were actually adaptable and had more than 2 upgrades?

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>>53514753
Careful, you'll summon the genestealer slut and the girl-hating virgins will sperg out for the next three fucking days after she posts one time.

>>53514841
We have to see the cost of the model and the cost of the sponsons.
Also, there is a chance of special ammo. Maybe for once GW will rip of the interesting ideas of FW. Let's see.

>>53514826
As I understand it, if you receive A TOTAL of 4 wounds, and roll UNDER 4, all damage is ignored.

>>53514868
Sweet. That low Toughness actually works out, then, because you want to take as many wounds as you can so you can ignore them all.

>>53514863
Who?

This sounds like a namefag I'd like to hear about.

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Orks are actually sub-ork tier somehow and we don't even have tyranids for company anymore.

>>53514862
I was more talking viability than customizability
It seems the hive mind is done playing around and stopped experimenting with biomorphs :/

>>53514809
Thanks m8. Also seems that dying light of 7th was the perfect time to start with nids as it's shaping up as a fun army to play

>>53514863
>not wearing a helmet
There should really be a penalty for that and snipers

>>53514863
Seconded, who? Google can't find shit

Underboob and genestealers sounds like my jam

>>53514819
Pic was blurry AF
But

>Boon of Change
Blessing that targets a friendly Tzeentch Daemon. Roll a d3
1 = +1S
2 = +1A
3 = +1T

>Bolt of Change
Deal d3 Mortal Wounds. If a character dies they become a spawn.

>Treason of Tzeentch
Target enemy non-Warlord Character
Roll 2d6. If less than target's Ld nothing happens
If greater you control the target in the shooting, assault, and fight subphase.

(Unsure what happens if you equal)

And from what I've seen
>Primaris Captain is Ld9 (so 1/6 chance to get 10+)
>Sergeants don't have the Character tag so they don't count.

>>53514242
Kek, what the fuck is this?

>>53514879
do we even know anything about orks yet?

>>53514851
In narrative or whatever it's psykers can attempt powers once
In matched it's powers can be attempted once

So if you're a Tson, You give Ahriman the powers you want to cast, then everyone else shits out Smite

>>53514794
>2d6 lascannon shots
>d6 damage per shot
>maximum of 72 wounds caused
>average of 24 wounds caused

Guess what model they have a lot of on storage and want to sell.

Please leak Black Templar Crusader Squad... does it even exist?

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>>53514851
As a tzeentch player I completely agree that the psychic phase needed a heavy rework and was too powerful but between the sheer-uselessness/limitations of the new disciplines and this just seems like way too intense of a knee-jerk reaction to it

>>53514866
Not the guy you're talking to but that's my last hope at this point, if all these IG/AM tank stats turn out to be true. I hope that in exchange for mediocre weapons, we get a cheap cost as compared to everybody else's tanks.

>>53514070
>>53514207
It's the landraider terminus

>>53514898
>Black Templar Crusader Squad...
>Implying every single chapter isn't going to get whiped out and restocked with numarines like space wuffs and Bangels
your optimism is cute

>>53514888
What stuff do we have access to that lowers ld? That could end up being crazy good if you can dump the stat.

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>>53514892
yes

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>>53514888
>>53514819
Pic related

>>53514897
Wrong, it hits ground targets on a 6, and must target the nearest unit. This thing is trash.

>>53514904
Don't you be getting my hopes up, anon.

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I want to see how Volkite weapons have changed. I love my martian deathrays.

>>53514863

???

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>>53514892

points for orks, anyone have it?

>>53514909
So far. Nothing I've seen.

>>53514899
>Psychic focus
What bullshit

>>53514892
We know that they have lost Furious Charge but they all have +1S

>>53514917

Chargers are STR 5 AP 0 2 damage, so assumably volkite will have higher strength, worse AP and better damage than equivalent sized bolt weapons

>>53514863
That thread was fucking hilarious. Even better as a GSC player.

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>>53514878
GSC Breeder

She's posted semi-nudes and talks about how she wants to get fucking stuffed by bugs and ovipositors and shit. Apparently fingered herself in the movie theater when the new alien movie came out the other week and posted about it in the general threads. There are some pics floating around and I am told there's dirtier stuff on a discord channel.

She hasn't tripped in awhile so she may or may not be permabanned.

>>53514794
Do you have the Bunker?

>>53514914
I'm thinking for flyers anon.

>>53514863
>girl hating virgins
>oh look, the beta whiteknights have arrived

>>53514931
Even Boys?

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>>53514863
The skymother shall return when the harvest of data is deemed plentiful and revitalising
She shall strip for our deliverance

>>53514951
Boys too
I hope you'll enjoy your S4 boys and S5 Nobz

>>53514281
>British humor

>>53514941
this is probably the most autistic thing ive ever seen posted on /tg/

and that is a fucking accomplishment anon

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>>53514916
The cost fits what it should be given the points for a LR and lascannons and I can't think of anything else we have that has ter in it that would be a LoW.
Maybe the new model for it is the chadmarine tank that we don't have any good picks of?

Either way, Land Raider MBT, get fucking hype. Can't wait to run a armored spearhead with the terminus and predators.

>sisters rules
>garbage

As expected

>>53514006
>Lash whip and monstrous bonesword 25
>monstrous scything talons (hive tyrant) 31
wtf?
why is the bonesword+ lash whip cheaper than scything talons?

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>>53514941
That's absolutely fucking hawt

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>>53514934
Interesting. They always were about drowning your opponent in wounds, so the AP 0 doesn't really bug me.

Still looking for replacement heads for my Kastelan's that look reminiscent of pic related.

>>53514892
>do we even know anything about orks yet?
Leaks-wise? Not much outside of three pages that were translated from German in the previous thread iirc regarding the mega-Armoured Warboss, Stompa, and Battlewagon (I think?)

Also, supposedly Deffrollas are terrifying again in 8e. Hasn't been leaked via codex pic, just word of mouth.

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>>53514910
>>53514922
>>53514931
>missed all these leaks while asleep
Thanks, my diggas

>>53514941
By the Emperor

>>53514958
Nigga I didn't make it, it was the reaction pic from the butthurt virgins I was talking about who went full sperg because an ICKY GIRL posted one not-even-actual-nude. I'm just reposting for posterity so people can get an idea of the bedlam that went down in those threads.

>>53514941
Yeah, I think she's permabanned. She promised new lewds to celebrate Tyranid faction focus but she got nuked in a bread shortly before it came out and never was heard of again.

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>>53514863
cant you blame her? tyranids are hot af

>>53514973
Big Scything Talons are S:U Ap:-3 D:3
for stuff like Carnifexs, Trygons and Hive Tyrants

>>53514956
>implying my nob wasn't already S5

The only thing that's changing is it's toughness. It's getting much tougher reading this.

>>53514930
It is and is completely out of nowhere considering how they made psychic work well in Age of Sigmar but have made it complete garbage in 40k 8th

Blackshirt said that 'Nids and DEldar are consistent winners in 8th. His words and not mine so don't take it as fact yet but it's interesting.

>>53514973
MC scything talons do a flat 3 damage, maybe that's why? Unsure until we see the monstrous Bonesword.

>>53514999
gotcha

How do new Basilisks (240" heavyD6 s9 ap-3 d3, roll 2 dice for determining the number of shots and discard the lower; can shoot on units it can't see) stack up against the old ones?

I was planning on making a Guard artillery group because deleting shit from across the room is hilarious to me, but I have no idea if it's viable. I was going to use the Emperors Wrath formation but it's too late now unfortunately.

>>53515026
Forgot to add that I was reports from playtesters

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>>53514981
hack hack?

>>53515026
BASED
A
S
E
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PHIL KELLY RIGHTING THE WRONGS