Warhammer 40,00 General /40kg/

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>>53511328
MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG

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Second for Slaanesh and this awesome image.

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Fucking orks leaks when?

LEAK TALONS

NOW
O
W

>>53511360
Seconding this: give us current boy stats!

>>53511360
>Not Krumputa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsT8Zm-oEMA

List of things Magnus did wrong:

>

>>53511360
GIV US DA GUBBINS

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These rules are so transparently minimum effort shit just barely above AoS launch level, it's amazing they have the gall to ask for money for them.

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>>53511355
>tfw I picked up 10 chaos termies and a rhino for £20
Yes, all these butthurt people dropping their armies for nothing.

Let the rage flow through you /tg/, sell me your army!

Any Thousand Sons or Tzeentch leaks by any chance? I want to start creating plans so that I can make my guys cool and strong at the same time. I want to plan for my plans for my planning.

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>>53511401
GIVE US DA WOTSITS

>>53511415
not a leak but gw relieced the rhubric data.

>>53511363
No one cares about your garbage ally-tier auxiliary horseshit.

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>>53511403
> there are people on this board right now that seriously thought AoS wasnt the beta-test for 8th ed

>>53511415
yeah, rubricae sheet was in an article and the poin costs of rubrics, arhiman, scarabs and exalsteds were in the csm points leak. nothing more as far as I know

HD unboxing from grot orderly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsT8Zm-oEMA

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>>53511415

>>53511403
but they are said to be free

>>53511380
Fucked over his legion to cover up how bad he got played.

>>53511403
>>53511429
Post more Doragons.

>>53511429

AoS is literally better right now than the 8th ed rules are.

>>53511427
>assmad sisterfag detected
>implying custodians aren't some of the best models in years
Kek

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>>53511425
>>53511430
I know that much, anons. I just want a little more, maybe something like scarab occult or something. I'd do anything for them just a little bit earlier.

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Looking for some feedback.

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>>53511360
YA BETTER GIVE US LEAKS AND PROVE THAT FLASHGITZ IZ A DECENT SHOOTY UNIT NOW OR IT IZ A PLANK WALKING FOR GW!

>>53511453

All of them are far too busy. The best space marine colour schemes are minimalist.

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I have never played warhammer and I really only like admech and sisters of battle. Is it possible to make a reasonably competitive army with just them?

>>53511453
Don't tell me what to do.

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>>53511442
>>53511442
>full rules arent even out
>already bitching they are worse

>>53511440
>Doragons
fucking made my cat run for the hills with that hearty chuckle

>>53511453
You forgot pink on the arms and thighs LOL

Will Nidzilla lists be viable again in 8th?

>>53511453
Avoid 1-2-5-6. The briefs other the pants only work on Superman

>>53511467
>>53511475

We dunno yet.

>>53511467
No
You need to use Ultramarines

>>53511453
I prefer 4 myself. Definitely do not go with the 1/2/5/6 red underwear route.

>>53511403

good for you that the core rules are free.

>>53511453
Little ceasers?

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I NEED DE leaks

>>53511487
Kek. Those are the best ones

>>53511467
New sisters seem to be pretty arse overall and we have no idea what admech will become in 8th. But fluff-wise it's off, the Admech and the Ecclisiarchy do not get on at all because the Ecclisiarchy think the Admech are heretics and the Admech wont give any good stuff to the Ecclisiarchy.

Nobody knows who started the feud It was the Admech

>>53511453
i like 5 the most. all the ones with the red chest symbol make the wings kinda disappear against the rest of the red trim. 4's pretty good too, but again, having all the joint parts red makes them stand out a little less. otherwise a neat idea for a color concept, nice work

>>53511467
any more of this art?

>>53511504
Well damn

>>53511482
>>53511484
Damn ultrasmurfs.

>>53511453
Gold helmet, eagle and boots
Red eyes and shoulder trim OR insert
Grey flex areas and piping
Rest white.
*Maybe* red backpack.

Anyone else mad about CSM?
Death to the False Emperor sounds like a dogshit rule if the leaks are to be believed, and they're now the same price as tacs, while not having any morale negation like tacs do.

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>>53511435
"Free" as in the basic few pages about movement, shooting etc. are free. You still need to buy your army rules and points.

>>53511433
>those huge point decreases for every named character
>khorne berzerkers 16ppm
nice

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>>53511475
I think swarm army will work better

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>>53511408
This. Ebay is on fucking fire with retards selling off their collections for relative pennies. Get in here and buy some shit at like 25% msrp boyz.

>>53511519
the units' rule should be also downloadable on the site

it will be points and relics and other shit that will be sold with a codex

>>53511519

yeah, and they changed basically every unit so to speak of "minimum effort" is just blatant trolling, buddy.

>>53511449
>implying custodians aren't some of the best models in years
I'll outright state it. They're busy in a bad way with fucked up proportions. They resemble gorillas more than perfectly engineered warriors. The old art where they were leaner and had the robes was a way better look.

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>>53511516

This guy gets it. Minimalism is king.

>>53511517
13 points per model isn't bad.

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>>53511514
I have a few armored sisters but not much otherwise, sorry.

>>53511542
red belt

golden boots (but not feet)

>>53511555

Nope, because that would look shit.

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>>53511514

>>53511561
No you would look shit.

Is it just me or are random hits just not that great anymore? As in the new Blast.

It just seems like too random to ever trust. You could say the same about old Blast but at the very least you could decrease your scatter thanks to your BS but.. eh. Looking at the Fusion Blaster and Collider for the Ghostkeel for example, the collider has the same profile but D3 hits instead of a simple 1. Are the points you pay really that much worthwhile to get an average of 1 more hit than them? Especially when you can take a guaranteed 6 hits on the Raker?

I'm not complaining on the Ghostkeel itself but the new "Blast" mechanic

>>53511538
That is the definition of minimum effort.

Re-posting from the last thread to see if anyone has any suggestions.

I think I'll start 8th using something pretty close to my existing army, to see how stuff handles.

1 Battalion with Celestine and Canoness, 3 flamer/heavy flamer sisters in MM immos

1 Outrider with Canoness, 2 Melta doms in flamer immos and a small squad of seraphim

2 Exorcists wherever, and a few imagifiers to see if they're worth taking.

Should be around 2000 points.

I think we're still stuck in the 7th mindset though. Imagifiers are good and AoF are good, but they don't combo well with either dominions or exorcists, which have been our go to units for forever. I'm definitely going to look at testing out larger infantry squads, and retributors with MM and Heavy bolters, i.e. units that have a decent chance of getting an extra shooting attack at the start of the turn.

>>53511475
We don't know yet. I sure as hell hope so.

>>53511524
Swarms are lame. A medium-sized army of big bugs with a squad or two of chaff is where it's at.

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I'm returning to the game for 8th after a LONG hiatus.

I was going to be converting a bunch of models I already have or am going to purchase. What is the official tournament scene like in terms of what models they will allow on the table? Back in the day I think the rule was something like at least 50% of the figure had to be official GW sculpted stuff, to be allowed into a tournament. Does that still hold true?

I was simply going to convert some guardsmen into female troopers with some simple torso and head swaps.

Any leaks about cool tin men? (AdMech and Skitarii)

>>53511547
It's not, but Tacs are the same price, and get ATSKNF rather than DTTFE.

>>53511571
More Random = More Fun™. Forge that narrative, buddy.

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>>53511475
>>53511524

I can see swarms or hormagaunts moving at sanic speed being shot at to protect the big bugs effective or else you have a turn 2 charge by 1000 critters

>>53511591
Not yet.

>>53511536
What do you reccomend? got any good deals?

I might get back into Speed freak Orkz for 8th, maybe Templars too, some cheap shit on ebay would be just the ticket

>>53511564
I'm a bit miffed about that too. I play TS and while our infantry has gotten heaps more reliable, I still want to play a psychic-heavy army. Nerfing the amount of spells you have access to is already a blow to variety and fun but being essentially locked into a now-tiny pool is very stifling.

So marks of chaos are gone now? Fuck.

>>53511587
Main rule is to be Recognizable as to what it is and generally conform to size and shape of the target model.

>>53511603

Then they run out of synapse range.

Synapse is such a shit mechanic that makes a bad army worse.

>>53511619
That should teach you from turning

>>53511601
Yeah I will. My narrative is that random hits are gay and all my army leaders agree.

>>53511592
Cam get to double down on special weapons though

>>53511603
To be fair to the horse, who wouldn't go into rape mode if a naked, defenseless farnese was put in front of him?

>>53511603
>squads of hormagants running at you
>trygons, genestealers, raveners, and lictors popping up inside your asshole and charging turn 1
>all while your big bugs slog up the board to do REAL damage

YESSSSS

>>53511633
I can see that little phrase becoming quite the spammable meme is chaos goes back to being shit in 8th.

>>53511630
What makes you think stuff like Warriors won't be as fast at a hormagaunt?

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>>53511619
No?

>>53511619

No they aren't. Even vehicles have access to them now.

>>53511646
Assuming it works exactly the same as in 7th.

That's not even a huge plus now that heavy weapons in tac squads aren't shit, either. I'm probably going to start sticking heavy bolters in my CSM squads anyways.

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>>53511626
Really? Sounds like they relaxed the rules a bit. Does this mean I could buy entire female models from a completely different company and just plunk them on the table without converting anything? Pic related.

>>53511467
ad mech, yes in 7th. 8th I hope we will be ok, given how well they sell I don't think gw will kill us.
sisters, just dont.

anyone found something for AdMech oder DAngels? such a slow day for leaks...to phrase el presidente: very, very bad!

>>53511614
Yeah cause theres no way psykers will have unique spells like AoS considering we got the same 'rule of one' rule.

>>53511686
Knights have 5 wounds

>>53511675
>>53511679
And yet cult marines don't for some retarded reason.

>>53511449
>>implying custodians aren't some of the best models in years

They're ugly as shit.
They wish they had the Primarine swag.

>>53511698
Yes they do, they have the Tzeentch keyword

Would Khorne punish a warrior if he raped a girl? They're not much of a challange anyway, and vanilla raping a single person is probably too tame for Slaneesh.

>>53511719
>Would Khorne punish a warrior if he raped a girl?

No.

>>53511698
They can't buy marks because they are mandatory and already included in their profile.

Can't have multiple marks.
Unless you're old armless.

>>53511684
Tournaments have varying rules but anything GW does requires Citadel models.

>>53511714
That's not the same as Mark of Tzeench, and they don't get any abilities for that keyword, everything is their own unique stuff.

>>53511698
They have the god's keyword. Same thing.

>>53511732
It is in 8th

>>53511719
Why should he?

>Take 2 30 boy mobs
>trucks full of Burnas and tankbustas on sides and between two mobs
Enemy must kill 26 boys for morale to even be relevant

>>53511726
Except marks are wargear which you have to pay for even if it's mandatory. And they are not listed in the wargear list either, which further suggest they're either gone or purely for flavor now.

Any news on Primarine vehicles?

>>53511684
Vicky Arcadians are 1:1 updated 2E Cadians, dude.

>>53511719
It would only annoy Khorne in the sense that the warrior is spending time raping that he could be using to kill. The honourable Khorne thing is a retconned meme from past editions. Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows.

>>53511619
Well yes and no, looks like marks are still there but are only used to give a faction keyword. You need the icon for the added rules.

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>If the new PfP +1 to hit accounts for shooting too, DE become OP
What a world 8th could be

>>53511571
Yup, blast weapons will continue to be unreliable and shitty, just like always.

>>53511739
Not really, Daemons will have their God's keyword too even though they bear no marks, and the lack of mark bonuses in the two cult units that have been leaked further suggests they're just flavor now.

>>53511729
Fuck.

Do they have to be 100% pure Citadel or can I do torso/head swaps from other companies?

>>53511732
>That's not the same as Mark of Tzeench, and they don't get any abilities for that keyword

Ho do you know? Have you seen what the MoT does? How do you know it's not in their profile slready?

>>53511751
So marines pay for bolters and power armour?
Cult marines can't not take their marks.

Really you seem like you just desperately want something to complain about, how very Tumblr of you.

>>53511784
As long as the base model is recognizably citadel you should be fine.

>>53511754
Yup and that's why I want to use them.

But would I be barred from tournaments if I did so?

Did they say anything about releasing new datasheets and books to update or introduce new units to existing armies?

>>53511814
Yeah. They're called Primaris Marines.

>>53511805
Awesome thanks!

>>53511784
It kind of depends on the tournament. Anything indie probably won't care, but if GW is involved in any official capacity, you can bet your faith in the Emperor that they'll require official citadel models.

>>53511787
>Ho do you know? Have you seen what the MoT does? How do you know it's not in their profile slready?
It's not listed as an ability nor specified in their profile.

>So marines pay for bolters and power armour?
Cult marines can't not take their marks.
You HAVE to pay for any wargear, including mandatory wargear, even if it's 0 points, it has a cost on the wargear list. So even if marks gave rules and were a mandatory take, they'd be on the wargear list. Hell, they still aren't mandatory for non-cult units, so you'd have to put a price on them anyway.

>>53511787
Mark of Tzeentch - Mortal wound on a 6 against an enemy units within 12".

>>53511834
Alright thanks

>>53511814
They did not.
But I bet on campagin books to add models and rules to existing ranges like they did in the near past.

>>53511780
If anything it means hold on to your ass because a chaos lord and elites will give bonuses to units in a bubble that share their god's keyword.

>>53511852
wasn't that the icon of tzeentch?

>>53511852
is this a general effect or a separate attack?

>>53511742
>>53511764
I dunmo, I recall reading somewhere that degeneracy insulted his warrior pride or some shit like that.

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>>53511821

I mean afterwards to keep up with the meta or introduce new things.

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>>53511764
Would Khorne give his boon to someone that shed blood purely through rape?

>>53511868
Leak said mark, but might have been a mistranslation.

>>53511852
That comes from the icon of tzeentch. We don't yet know whether or not marks do anything.

>>53511814
There's going to be the usual Codex update/release cycle after the initial launch. Everything in the indexes will slowly be phased out and replaced with their Factions full Codex which will come with more shit. Unless you play SoB in which case welcome to your new home forever, Imperial Index 2

Is Icon of Flame a mortal wound on 6 on To Hit or To Wound roll?

>>53511834
What if you use official citadel liquid green stuff (tm) to make unique heads, shoulders etc?

>>53511878
No it said icon m8

>>53511453
4 is the best.

>>53511692
From what we've seen of the Blood Angels, no we won't. We'll have a table that we can pick from, which is a table of -3- spells. Say you pick Blood Boil three times and only one can cast it per turn. Your other psykers are stuck flinging generic Smites.

>>53511882
My bet is that marks become nothing but a restricting keyword. After all, they were introduced as a way to compensate when legion specific special rules got axed. Now that we are getting legion specific tactics again I expect marks giving bonuses to go away.

>>53511900
Sheeeeeeeeit

>>53511894
Neither

>>53511877
I guess it depends
>Are you using the rape to raise strong sons?
>Are you using rape as a weapon?
If you're using it for pleasure then that's a big nono

>>53511898
GW is 100% fine with greenstuff conversions provided the unit is recognizable.

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R8 pls

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It feels strange that IG Guardsmen can take a Bolter or a Pulse shot the the face and be saved by their crappy armor.

>>53511898
Green stuff is fine, I'm sure. They don't mind conversions and the like, it's just 3rd party minis that get their titties twisted.

>>53511929
They're not taking it to the face, then. Be more aware of what the abstraction mean.

>>53511925
Looks good.

>>53511925
Looks good to me.

>>53511925
That's almost identitcal to my chapter's color scheme. Good taste.

>>53511929
>implying it's crappy

You got meme'd, son.

>>53511925
Loyalist EC/10

>>53511746
>chaos leviathan w/ dual grav-flux
>each 7d3 s9 ap -5 d2 hitting on 2+
>???
>enjoy ork tears

>>53511433
Why is the lords on steeds listed as separate entries? Wouldn't it have been much more practical to include steeds as upgrades for the lord itself?

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>>53511746
>Heat Lance Scourges drop in
>psst nothin personal Greenskins

>>53511955
EC had good style before they went full retard.

>>53511972
That would conflict with their "all on one datasheet" philosophy.

>>53511980
No doubt
But they fappped to their own pride too much

>>53511430
>>53511449
>>implying custodians aren't some of the best models in years

2/10, made me blow air with my nose.

>>53511966
>spending a billion+1 points to kill 9 boyz with an anti-titan weapon
>???
>you're retarded

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Kek

>>53511972
Lots of options like this and various armour types change the statline more than before, as well as having different keywords.It's cleaner than having a whole list of exceptions depending if you take a bike or jump pack on a commander

>>53511985
Why? Include it as upgrades in the datasheet. Are they gonna list every single weapon on the datasheet as well, like legion specific ones, daemon weapons, all standard weapons, etc? Having different datasheets for just upgrades like that isn't streamlining anything.

>>53512009
kek

>>53511925
a bit fuzzy around the edges but looks alright

>>53511955

I'm trying to make the purple very dark and avoid warm and golden colors in favor or silver etc...

>>53511746
What? You can take morale losses as soon as you lose 13 boys. 13 casualties + 6 on the dice - 17 Ld = 2 more lost to morale

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I finished Ahriman trilogy.
Are there ANY Warhammer 40k characters that can even challenge Ahriman at being best character in the setting?

>>53512042

It's because GW is shit at designing templates

>>53512011
Sisters squatted?!

>>53511540
100% true. It's even weirder when you consider that their next move was to make reasonably proportioned Marines.

Admech are good though.

>>53511929
Flak armor is supposed to be better than what's been presented to us for the last 10 years, as per the fluff.

Flak armor has been a whole hell of a lot better in the RPG books.

>>53511449
>>implying custodians aren't some of the best models in years
If you put them next to a Primarine they look like they have fucking downs. They are literal garbage.

>>53512009
>playing orks
>not being retarded
pick one

>>53512053
The inquisitor that runs around trolling him like a little bitch is pretty good.

>>53511367
Ws 4+ bs 6+ s4 t4 a2 w1 i2 ld4

>>53512057
I know right. How hard is it to make a template like that that isn't completley useless.

>>53512053
>Seth
>Mephy
>Vect

>>53512011
got a more in-focus version somewhere?

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WHY IZ I WAITIN?

WEREZ DA RULEZ FOR DA ORKZ?

>>53512053
Khayon

I dont know anything about 7th ed

After the datasheet leaks how do Tau look in 8th?

>>53512053
Rosario Muniz

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>>53512076
>I2

>>53511925
Cannot think of any improvements/10

Just make sure your careful with the beige color

>>53512077

It would have been easier for them if they didnt add any shitty effects that ruin the coloring experience.

I used a template that was already improved by some anon here. The original one is even worse and the lines arent closed on many parts

>>53512058
no, I think it looks pretty good

Natfka has most of their stats leaked

>>53512095
It's over. Dead as a viable faction. The whiners got what they bitched for.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/30/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-adeptus-mechanicus
It is time

>>53512095
From what i've heard via thedarkcity, the major Tau fourms are at best and at worst quitting the army

>>53512095
Like squats.

>>53511453
7 for rank and file
8 for officers

>>53512117
'at best mildly salty

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>>53512053

>>53512095
>>53512117
>>53512110
>WAACfaggots who went Tau to win getting what they deserve

Good.

>>53512114
Finally

>>53512114
Not for another hour or two pleb.

>>53511850
It's sigmar, marks no longer "do" anything other than qualify it as a keyword for special abilities. deal with it

>>53512117
If orks got their melee hard nerfed and raised in cost you'd quit the army too.

Anyone else slightly bummed out about the new rules and some of the faction shifts?

Not quitting or saying fuck this, just doesn't feel right. Like they went overboard with some of the changes that weren't even necessary in favor of "streamlining" or "speeding up" the game.

>>53512114
(you) got me

>>53512133
How does it look for people that didnt bring Riptide Wing to every single game?

>>53511675
>Three rolls to determine the stats of obliterator's guns before they even fire.

>>53512132
Seriously, why is Guilliman Nick Frost?

>>53512143
You mean 7th ed?

>>53512110
>my broken models are no longer broken
>the whole faction is dead!

>>53512143
I've played DE since beginning of 5th
Cry harder Taufag

>>53512045
Mob rule says you can use the leadership of nearby squads. Thus, the other 30 boy squad must ALSO be brought down to 13, for 26 in total

>>53512151
>these are professional designers

>>53512133
>oh my gosh how dare those fucking xenos players even dare shoot at my marines and kill off a vehicle or let alone unit a turn by focusing the bulk of their army on it, ugh I can't even better go buy more space marines to untrigger myself

>>53512053
Cain

>>53512143
Considering that orks aren't competitive as they are now. I don't think so.

>>53512159
That was your mistake you idiot masochist.

>>53512110
nicely memed'd

>>53512171
t. Xenos cocksucker

>hey guys, it's a new edition so we're updating every army list, it's about time we ticked that box for blood angels to take stormtalons right?

>"What do you mean I can't kill it in a turn" Tau faggots got eternally btfo

Based 8th ed.

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>>53512188
I've never regretted it
Best model range, and top tier fluff

RIP Duke

>>53511449
Custodes are fun, I kinda want to run an allied squad as a Distraction Carnifex. No idea how well it would work tho.

>>53512095

Ripdtide got a price hike and a bit nerfed. Now it's more like a sophisticated siegebreaker.

Broadsides are now like 8th editon Dreadnoughts. They have A LOT of firepower.

Crisis are now more expensive, but more tanky and shot more. JSJ is no longer in the game.

Markerlights no longer allow you to increase your BS to infinity, but they aren't spend until you finish the turn no matter how many units use them.

Bombers have been buffed. Stealth suits too.

Kroots have been divided into different units. Hounds, Rider, Shaper, Hunters.

Drones are dumber, but will sacrifice themselves for nearby units.

Pathfinders are cheaper.

Railguns have a chance to cause mortal wounds. Seeker and destroyer missiles always do.

>>53512198
/pol/tier garbage please leave.

>>53512143
Orks DID get their Melee merged in 7E. Most Ork players stuck with it like true players.

They complained about it plenty though.

>>53512110

Shas'o Bitchcry shadowbutthurt

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>ghost arc: w14 s6 t6 4+
>living metal, quantum shielding
>you can still make reanimation protocols for the embarked unit
>also at the end of the movement phase you can choose an unit within 3 for additional reanimation protocol rolls (doesn't stack with the resurrection globe)

>you can choose one unit to hold in reverses "on the tomb world"; it can come out within 3 of the monolith but more than 1 from the enemy at the start of the movement phase

>boyz cost the same with slugga, choppa and bomms; hit on 3+, shoot on 5+; if 20 or more gain an additional attack
>nobz 17ppm, 3 models minimum

>old one eye: 10w r7
>ws3+, gives +1 to hit on carnifices within 6
>his charge does d3 mortal wounds on a 4+ instead of 1
>each attack that hits generate another attack to resolve with the same weapon against the same target
>140pts

>kantor same characteristics of other chapter masters (w6 ws2+ s4 t4 4++)
>crimson fists within 6 get another attack and reroll to hit
>dorn's arrow: 24" ass4 s4 ap-1 d1

>sternguards same stats as marines but with ld8(-9 sergeant)
>specialist requiem: rapid fire1 s4 ap-2 d1
>up to 2 can have heavy flamers, heavy weapons, special weapons or combi-weapons
>everyone can have combi-weapons
>16ppm without weapons (which go from 11ppm to 15 ppm respectively for combiflamer and combiplasma)

>vanguards are almost the same but can get any weapon combination between melee and pistols
>yes twin pistols too

>>53512171
Wrong, I'm a Tyranid player actually.

Enjoying being punishment-nerfed for the next decade like my army was for 4th edition Nidzilla.

>>53512191
Says the most creatively dull of 40k players.
At least orks can break up the monotony by taking any other kit and making it orky.

>Tfw still no new Chaos Marines or Slaanesh marines

>>53511972
It allows for them to each have unique mechanics, ala spells, special rules, etc. and not simply have it be an upgrade. It helps incentivise running more than just smashfucker and the like.

>>53512192
Nope. Only flyer they get is the Stormraven. They fucking have some of the best pilots in the imperium, but they are stuck flying a goddamn toaster with wings.

>>53512218
I play CSM. You get what you deserve.

>>53512220
>not counting every chaos model in the starter other than plague marines

>>53512114
Why is noone talking about this? Did admech army lists leak already?

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>>53512213
>>dorn's arrow: ass4

>>53512089
Still triggered fuck you.

>>53512201
>JSJ is no longer in the game.
RIP :(

What do you think about the Markerlight changes overall? Having to stack them to 5 to get +1 hit sucks for regular units but it lets you delete 1 unit per turn. Getting to fire seekers on 3+ (rr1) from skyray gunships that do mortal wounds seems really powerful

>>53512234
It's fake.

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>>53512218
SM are one of most creative 40k players.

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>>53512207

>>53512143
Wait, you mean like in every codex since 4e?

>>53512208
Were they nerfed in the stats and getting shafted by the core rules or did boys become grots that cost 12 points a model.
Quite the difference to be the victim of incompetence from gw than outright malicious intent.

>>53512213
>>ws3+, gives +1 to hit on carnifices within 6

If this is fluffed as some

>Old One Eye is so ancient and cool and badass, he inspires all the other Carnifexes to be just like their big brotherfex!

I swear to god I will murder someone

>>53512143
So the entirety of 6th and 7th? just a sliding scale of worse? que que more. we still play

>>53512114
DELET THIS

>>53512213
Is this from the same guy on the Italian forum?

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>>53512220
>Wanting to pay $20 more for a box of CSM

>>53512258
Did you expect a Necrons faction focus, cuckfaggot?

>>53512248
>creative
>just dudes in power armor unless you go out of your way to make them an injoke or walking reference to something more interesting
I rest my case.

>>53512262
Confirmed fake

>>53512273
Necrons are gonna be dead last because

>lol slow army means last faction focus geddit xD

>>53512240

Pathfinders are cheaper so I expect them to be more useful.

>>53512235
top kek

>>53512254
Old One Eye already has a rule called "Alpha Leader". It basically makes him a semi-synapse creature

>>53512240
I think it is a better reflection of the flavour. As you say, you get to utterly delete a unit per turn. And that is cool.

That makes Tau play about good target priority. I like it.

German ork pics
>>53512195
>>53512243
>>53512263

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>>53512254
in the actual ruleset there's a similar thing

in practical term in absence of a synaptic creature the baddest tyranid gains the role of alpha and the other nids coordinate around it by instict; but it was about ld and instinctive behaviour before

shut up and enjoy your living spearhead


>it also regenerate 1 wound at the start of the turn
I hope I can put regeneration biomorph on all big beasts

>>53512303
>leaking on dying thread
Repost here, faggots

>>53512132
I wonder how all those ultramarines fighting alongside him feel about being replaced? Isn't this what started the fucking horus heresy in the first place?

>>53512266
I just want some minis that aren't obliviously old as Fuck and Manlet compared to current models

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>>53512303

>alpha orks

shit we ORRKUS now

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>>53512303
>Orks are a melee race
>M4

>>53512283
Who, this guy or the Italian?

>>53512248
>ultrafags confirmed rednecks

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>>53512262
yes

>>53512171
Maybe if you fuckers weren't so hard to chase down and punch I wouldn't have had a problem

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>>53512170
They get paid. They're professional something.

>>53512201
>JSJ is no longer in the game.
Hopefully this time it stays out.

>>53512248
>Creative
>Putting a confederate flag and KKKid on a Land Speeder.
>Didn't even call it Land Speeder Stormfront.
C'mon, lift your game. If you're going to bait, at least put the jokes in it.

>>53512319
>mega armour
>fast

Just get a transport

>>53512303
Lol wait a stomp is 49 power points with 40 wounds? Wtf did they they do to that thing.

>>53512303
>>53512310
Krautfag reporting. I am on the case.

>>53512303
>stompa
>40 wounds
>FOURTY

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>>53512213
>>old one eye: 10w r7
>>ws3+, gives +1 to hit on carnifices within 6
>>his charge does d3 mortal wounds on a 4+ instead of 1
>>each attack that hits generate another attack to resolve with the same weapon against the same target
>>140pts

Fuck yes i am hype for OOE

>>53512254
His fluff is already "Alpha monster that draws all the stranded synapse-less Tyranids to his rampage"

They are supposed to see him as a 'leader'

Whatever, i'm excited to field him again

>>53512319
With megarüstung you idiot

>>53512224
It's fucking hilarious that GW deliberately expanded on the BA fluff to say they all love flying, but they have the least access to SM flyers and no unique flyer.

And they're also an original legion that can't take 30k termies or contemptors.

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>>53512220
>Space Marines are manlet compared to Primaris
>Chaos Space Marines are manlet compared to Space Marines
>Havocs are manlet compared to Chaos Space Marines
The pain never ends.

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So seekers worth it now? I like the new model that comes with broadsides.

>>53512366
Well they are probably referring to jetpack and jump pack units

>>53512356
>>53512362
900 points.

>>53511877

Khorne cares not.

He blesses those who spill the most blood in his name, it would be hard to spill a lot of blood just raping rather than going around slitting throats, you also wouldn't rack up any skulls that way.

Khorne would likely disapprove as you would be wasting time that could be better spent killing and maiming.

>>53511540
>they're look better with robes
Shit taste confirmed.

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>>53512213
BOYZ CONFIRMED BASE S4, NOBZ 5

no furious charge, that would be too much now wouldn't it?

>>53512313
They are ecstatic by seeing living primarch, and get hard knowing they are first in Galaxy to become bigger and more powerful weapons.

>>53512213
>>boyz cost the same with slugga, choppa and bomms
Oh, just fuck off GW. There's no way they are worth that. I would maybe accept 5 points, given the fact they are almost as good as the 4th edition ones now, but 6 is too much. Especially when tactical marines got a huge boost to survivability with the new cover rules and dropped in price.

>>53512396
Disregard the haters, blingmate

>>53512339
HOLY SHIT NIGGER IS THAT THE SPOILERED RIPTIDES ARE TEQ PASTA

Warboss in Megaarmour is the first

Kustom Shoota is 18", Assault 4, S4, AP0, Dam0
Power Klaw is Sx2, AP-3, DamD3, -1 to Hit

Can replace Kustom Shoota with any item from Shootas or Special Weapons

Has Mob Rule, 'ere we go!

Waaagh! = Ork infantry within 6" can Charge and Advance in the same turn.

Smash heads = Can deal D3 mortal wounds to a nearby Ork mob to cancel the result of a failed Morale test.

>>53511610
I perused eBay just now and there's a Guard army of ~1000 points on sale for 77 USD

>>53512201

Coldstars are ridiculous mobile: M 20".

>>53512084

>http://natfka.blogspot.co dot uk/2017/05/sisters-of-battle-leaks.html
>http://natfka.blogspot.co dot uk/2017/05/8th-ed-sisters-of-battle-revealed.html

>>53512372
How fucking old is the havoc models? I just convert regular CSM with forgeworld

>>53512327
Can you get Mr Spaghetti to give us the Living Metal special rule?

>>53512433
we already saw it last thread

you autoregain a wound at the start of the turn

>>53512433
and warptalons datasheet?

>>53512417
>Waaagh! = Ork infantry within 6" can Charge and Advance in the same turn.
lol

So battlecannon is shit. heavy d6 S8 AP-2 d3 damage
And now demolisher cannon is revealed to be even more shit. heavy d6 if unit attacked has 5 or more models. d3 otherwise.

They're making every unit in the game a lot more tanky and simultaneously nerfing every template weapon into the ground. They said they're buffing ogryns... Whoop dee fuckin doo. Guard isn't for assault. Period.

Why do they keep doing this? Is there any hope left for guard? Are they destined to be bottom tier?

I demand AdMech rules!

>>53512444
Shit nigger I'm retarded then.

Also checked.

>>53512455
Practically all the flavor of your army was sacrificed in a effort to nerf you.

>>53512319
That's the mega-armour. It's always been slower. M4 was about as good as could be expected. It's always going to be in a vehicle anyhow, so no big deal. Regardless, enjoy your new ^I2 until we get boyz stats.

>>53511574
Because IM the retard, could you spell out for me what you think the definition of minimum effort is again?

>>53512461
>nerf admech
I'm not an admech player, but I haven't really gotten an OP vibe when I play against them.

>>53511328
I have stormcast eternals kitbashed with bloodletters to make possessed marines?

>>53512404
I think we're getting a metric fuck ton of ways to buff those big mobs of boyz. Don't worry to much til we get the entire picture.

I feel like Vespids now make sense.

>>53512455
01101101 01100101 01100011 01101000 01100001 01101110 01101001 01100011 01110101 01110011 00100000 01101100 01100101 01100001 01101011 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100101 01101110 00111111

>>53512452
The only hope we have at this point is if Guard vehicles are generally cheaper than everyone else's, since all others are getting more expensive.

Either that or I'm hoping for some kind of special rule for Guard tanks that lets them shoot all their guns on the move at no penalty. Or something like that.

>>53512452

Ordinary guardsmen with armored support look beastly when supported, no more armor skew.

Also ogryns were badass in dark crusade tanking for kasrkins

BRING THE DUKE BACK

BRING THE DUKE BACK YOU DIRTY BRITBONG FUCKS

WE WANT THE THIN WHITE DUKE

FUCK

>>53512455
"No more skitarii doctrina imperatives
only canticles
and they are shit
only 1 level throughout"

>>53512423
They're no longer considered "flyers" so to speak, so yeah. You get locked in to a high-output BRRRT cannon and missile pod but you get 20" move, 40" if you advance (which is fucking insanity holy shit)

>>53512506
He's dead, Anon.

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>>53512303
>battlewagon is over 200 points, barely tougher than a predator.
>mega-armour is move 4"
>stompa is nearly 1,000 points, same T and Sv as a marine dread, five times the wounds, i.e. relatively weaker
Whoever said things couldn't get any worse for the orks was wrong.

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>>53512416
Check the filename.

>>53512417
>>53512448
Expect to see the return of conga-lines to get a boy in that 6" bubble. Who here remembers 3e KFFs?

Battlewagon

Rokkit Launcha is 24", Assault 1, S8, AP-2, DamD3

Big Shoota is 36", Assault 3, S5, AP0, Dam1

Cannonsomethingsomething pick a profile
Frag is 36", Heavy D6, S4, AP0, Dam1
Krak/Massive 36", Heavy 1, S8, AP-2, DamD6

Tank Kannon 24", Heavy D6, S7, AP-2, Dam2

Bombard(?) is 48", Heavy D6, S5, AP0, Dam1, can fire indirectly

Zzapgun is 36", Heavy 1, S2D6, AP-3, Dam3, if you get a 11+ on S it deals 3 mortal wounds instead

Crushing Ball S+1, AP-1, Dam1, cannot quite read all it says in the notes, but something about limiting the number of attacks to 3

Megagrabber (?) is SUser, AP-3, DamD3, can only attack once with this

Death-Rolla is SUser, AP-2, Dam1, this weapon hits on 2+
Explodes at 0 Wounds on a 6, dealing 6 mortal wounds within 6"

Closed up: Has T8 but loses open-topped

Moving Fortress: Ignores the penalty for moving and shooting Heavy weapons

Open-topped: Units embarked can shoot from it, but cannot do so while the unit is within melee range of an enemy unit.

Can carry 20 Ork infantry models, models in mega-armour take two spots. If you have taken the tank gun it can only transport 12 models.

>>53511648
... Most horses

>>53512404
>6ppm for WS 3+ S4 T4 A2+1 models with infinite leadership is too much in an edition where all blast and template weapons have been nerfed into the fucking ground and small arms no longer even ignore their t-shirt saves

quizzical black man.jpg

>>53512472
It was mentioned for the stormraven too back when that was a new thing for BA, but then they gave everyone stormravens.

>>53512170
>make popular models in previous edition have poor rules or overcost
>players buy new models
>profit
Meet the new GW, same as the old GW

>>53512532
meant for >>53512378

>>53512520
>>53512520
>literally havent seen points for any of this
calm down

STILL NOTHING ABOUT GUARD REEEE
And then there's this faggot >>53512452 bringing bad news about demolisher.

>>53512053
Nu Ahriman is a cuck with no ambition who gets "Just as Plan'd" by sad elfy bitches

Bring back based Ahriman and his "The Rubric worked flawlessly" mentality.

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Weapons:
Gitrokkit can only be fired once per shooting phase, once per game (i don't even understand it in German?)

Deffkannon changes to Heavy2D6 when shooting at units of 20+ models

Choppa, two profiles. 2nd profile: 3 hits instead of one per attack

Abilities:
Can escape out of combat and still shoot, even when going "over" enemy infantry (must stay away 1" after movement though), doesn't suffer penalties for moving and shooting

Megablasta can be fired more than once per shooting phase:

Second shot: Roll a D6, at 2+ you fire a second time
At 1 it cannot be fired anymore for the rest of the game


Third shot: same as above, but at 5+ and 4-


Units in a radius of 6" can reroll failed morale

>>53512371
Scheinbar doch.
>>53512389
>>53512263
>>53512243
>>53512195

The Warboss can krump up to D3 gits to make every morale test an auto success, but only for units within 3 inches.
the stompa explodes on a roll of 6 if it'S reduced to 0 wounds, and everything within 2d6 inches suffers d6 mortal wounds. Rolled before unloading of passengers. It can also retreat and keep on shooting and can move over enemy units, but on the end of its movement it must be at least 1 inch away from any enemy unit. And it can fire heavy weapons without to-hit penalty.
Super-Megablasta can fire two times in the shooting phase, on a throw of 2+ on a d6. On a roll of 1, you'll be unable to fire it for the rest of the game. Can fire even a third time, but only on a 5+, else you can't fire it for the rest of the game. All orks within 6 inches can reroll failed morale tests. And it can transport up to 20 models, mega armour/jump packs take up two model slots though.
Battlewagon explodes on a 6 if reduced to 0 wounds, everything within 6 inches suffers d6 mortal wounds. So basically, the same as the stompa. You can choose to bring the battlewagon up to T8, but it looses open-topped if you decide to do so. Probably some wargear or something. It also ignores to-hit penalties for firing heavy wepons after moving. Can transport up to 20 models.

Anything else you want to know anons?

>>53512520
>same T and Sv as a marine dread
Wrong, it's got the same toughness and save as an Imperial Knight with almost twice the Wounds

Those motherfuckers are literally going to be impossible to bring down

>>53512522
>"Open-topped: Units embarked can shoot from it, but cannot do so while the unit is within melee range of an enemy unit."
Why does GW hate gettin stuck in wit da boyz?

>>53512580
I'm more worried about what this means for rhinos. I guess no more shooting from the top hatch.

>>53512565
chaos leaks

>>53512574
>literally
figuratively

>>53512565
Not them but can you please post CSM wargear point costs and maybe some Thousand Sons datasheets? I'm just dying to see the cost of Inferno weapons n shit.

Stompa

I skip the weapons this time since you can probably figure those out yourself.

Special Rules are
'ere we go

Explodes at 0 Wounds on a 6 it deals D6 mortal wounds to units within 2D6"

Big and stompier: Can Fall Back and shoot or charge in the same turn. Can move over enemy models. Can shoot heavy weapons and move without penalty. Has to be more than 50% covered to gain cover bonuses.

Psychi-Dakka-Blasta! Can fire his Super-Megablasta more than once. Do so roll a D6, on a 2+ you can fire it again, on a 1 the ammo is used up and you cannot use the weapon anymore for the rest of the battle. For a third time the roll is 4+.

Orkish Icon: Friendly Units within 6" of a Stompa can re-roll failed Morale tests.

Can transport 20 Ork infantry models. Models in mega armour take two spots.

>Reanimation protocols are made at the start of your movement phase. Roll a D6 for every slain model, on a 5+ it comes back. You can roll again in the following turns. You cannot roll if the whole unit is slain.
Anyone want to explain how this now works with characters?

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>>53512372
What's going on here?

>>53512600
Presumably they don't res at all, rumours suggest they regenerate Wounds instead.

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Do we know anything about 8E Crons yet?

>>53512592
>>53512597
Oh sorry, I was just translating the ork leaks, I don't have any myself.

>>53512452
In fairness, the battle and demolisher cannons were always the shittiest, least reliable options.

>>53512147
If you're not a Riptide spammer and don't mind having 20-50% point hikes on all your big models (Stormsurges and Broadsides get mentioned a lot), you should be fine.

>>53512565

>Meganobz reduced to 4" instead of rolling normally
Not surprising, but I'm hoping the Orks get to keep that Megaboosta from the days of yore and add an extra inch to that movement.

Also, that Stompa looks fucking terrifying. The 900 point cost seems a tad high, but for something with 40 wounds I can't say I'm surprised (in fact, I think that's the highest wound count we've seen on a vehicle to date).

Anyone seen the profiles for the standard boyz yet?

>>53512452
>They're making every unit in the game a lot more tanky and simultaneously nerfing every template weapon into the ground
Because setting up your army only to remove two thirds of it after turn 1 because your opponent plays leafblower or Tau is boring and annoying.

>>53512623
Thats living metal not a reanimation protocol.

>>53512537
We know new models with shitty rules happened.
Is more stupidity that malice IMHO.
If it was "roll 3d3 add 10 each" wold have been more powerful but as much as clunky.

>>53512628
There was a stat line for a single unit, no rules, weapons etc.

I haven't seen anything else.

>>53512600
Probably Everliving from 5e.

>when a character dies put a marker on the field.
>Start of your turn roll a d6 for each marker. On a 4+ put the character back within 3" of the marker with 1W. If you failed remove that marker

>>53512628
>that art
Shoo shoo away from my dynasty.

>>53512309
>>53512363
Synapse Creature/Pack Alpha is one thing, and I admit I didn't consider that.

I was just saying that I hope they didn't humanize Carnifexes into being inspired by their leader..... Tyranids don't get inspired, just like Tigers don't.