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Story Time Thread

>Warhammer 40k 8th Edition: "Leak" Compilation
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>Lastest news :
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>Last Thread
>>53494244
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germanfag still in search for cheap online retailer. help please.
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>>53498742
Oi vey, imperial guard's greatest ally
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>Dark Millenium contains the new rulebook in hardcover
Holy shit sign me the fuck up
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>>53498813
We've known this
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I go to a fucking cook out and you autistic nerds manage to fill up a thread to 900+ posts. So what all did we learn past the Blood Angels points reveal. I am hyped for Death company.
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Alright I'm gonna need the story of the guy screaming about muslims
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SoB are now GSC Breeders.
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>>53498848
>He doesn't know
Anon...I...I don't know, BA don't interest me
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>>53498848
Almost full tau pointcost/list. 300p riptides m8
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Any leaks for the Dark Angels? i need to know if i have to shelve my deathwing for another edition.
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>>53498848
Basically all of Blood Angela and T'au leaked.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334013-full-leaked-blood-angels-rules-other-space-marine-prices/

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2086
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>>53498848
>2017
>caring about space marines
>caring about BA

Anon it's time to stop.

Buy the Primaris Marines!
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>Skims through the last couple days of Faction Focus(es?)
>GSC are mentioned
>GSC are allowed to steal/loot IG vehicles, yet Orks "Looted Vehicles" have been reduced to a bland "Looted Wagon"
>The OG of looting can't even loot anymore
Itz a load o' zoggin squigshit I tellz ya!!
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>>53498871
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yfw "chadmarine" dicklets have nothing that can match the HELLFORGED LEVIATHAN DREADNOUGHT
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>>53498915
>>GSC are allowed to steal/loot IG vehicles
This has been a thing for like 9 months you scrub
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>>53498915
gsc don't loot them
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Any Chaos Wargear tables leaked yet?
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>>53498626
>>53498725
Okay so story time.

This guy who we will call "Mr. O" is probably the most infamous person at our store. He is known by name reliably at every store within 100 miles, if only through rumour.

He is almost spherically fat. I get it, he's autistic, exercise takes discipline. But the result is he fucking stinks. He stinks to high heaven. He is the only person I have ever met who people physically avoid in the street, like water parting around him, due to the stench.

He has been told by our LFGS Manager repeatedly that he has to go home and take a bath or a shower, and wear deodorant, both of which he apparently hates doing due to sensitivity or something, it makes him uncomfortable.

This doesn't make him special, of course. Many GW autists meet these criteria. The big issue is he also has some right wing views, which is fine, but he also feels the need to aggressively spout them. Constantly. If he waddles over to you, forcing his cloud of stench upon you, forcing you to lean back in his chair, good chance he's wanting to talk to you about the muslims.

The angrier he gets, the more he blames things on muslims. He fluffs a leadership test - muslims are all violent, it's a violent religion. He fucks up his target priority - fucking muslims killing people all muslims are the same.

This is what gets him kicked out of the store, over and over. Inevitably, his antisocial behavior leads to people avoiding him. That makes him upset. That makes him want to talk about muslims, I guess his way of trying to socialize? That makes people avoid him more. That makes him angry. He spergs out loudly about muslims.

The worst part is he doesn't take the Manager seriously. No matter how fucking angry our Manager (whos wife is a muslim) gets, he just giggles and does this weird kind of rutting motion with his hips, totally fucking with the Manager who just wants the guy to stop making people leave the fucking shop.
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>>53498871
>SoB are now GSC Breeders.
>SoB not being used to make 'betta Diggas'
This is just downright heretical!
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>>53498934
Yeah, except for, you know, the Leviathan Dreadnought, not Hellforged™ Edition.
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Kroot hounds can be taken as independent units at 4 points per model, are 12 inch move and are cheapo horde assault chaff.

So basically, turns out Kroot hound spam for blocking, tarpitting, counter charging and distractions is the new tau meta.
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>>53498913
NOT UNTIL THEY GIVE DADDY BACK
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>>53498972
why doesn't the manager just outright ban him?
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>>53498788

Wayland games has shitty delivery, problems everywhere. Triple helix delivered stuff in time and well packaged. awesome customer service via skype too! the 15€ delivery fee isn't that bad when you consider that 60€ stuff costs about 40-45€...
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>>53498788
Kutami?
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>>53498871
Canon since the rerelease of the GSC
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Some news about FW indexes or no?
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>>53498952
>This has been a thing for like 9 months you scrub
I haven't been paying attention to the nids lil' sub-faction until just recently.
>>53498961
>gsc don't loot them
They're looting them in everything but name anon. Only thing they're not doing, as far as I can tell is adding extra dakka like the Orks do.

It's mildly irritating.
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>>53498911
Many thanks! Have we gotten specifics on the benefits/stratagems offered by different Septs? Fingers crossed that Bork'an get something good.
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>>53499065
No, we'll end up getting those last. The other leaks we're still waiting on are way more important anyways.
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>>53499023

The problem is Mr. O is also quite a prominent figure in the autistic community, and by that, I mean the local autistic centre praises him like an angel. They also praise our LFGS because he sings their praises. It's a lot of good PR, apparently, and if he was to get banned, no doubt he would go back to them and cry and whine and complain... and that would be a PR nightmare. He writes a column for their Autism magazine/newsletter or whatever. It gets heavily edited, obviously, removing all the muslim stuff. But he almost always mentions how Warhammer/GW has helped him manage and deal with his autism, and they run articles on how it helps autistic kids engage with maths, socializing, etc.

Basically, they're damned if they let him stay, damned if they don't.
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>>53499082

It would be nice to see a full profile for at least one real Titan, not just a knight scale mini-superheavy.
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>>53498871

Extra heretical.
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>>53499074
Just wait til they release Orkstealer Hybrids and GSC get to loot your shit too.
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grot rebels when?
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>>53498871
What about cute Slaaneshi butts?
>image implied
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>>53498972
what's his main army?
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As a non-riptide/non-waacfag soon-to-beTau player should I worry about new leaked Tau profiles? I mean people are autistic screaching about riptides but didn't really commented anything else
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>>53499103
No one even really plays with those stupid fucking things, they're way beyond the scale the game can actually handle. It's a gimmick to sell giant collectible shit for people with too much money.
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>>53499124
Obviously Eldar
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>>53499077
Its fucking nothing.

The <SEPT> tag is just something you decide on, that have no rules associated with them. They're just a way of differentiating different septs in your army.

I'm sure once we get codexes, we'll see specific bonuses or strategems for various sub-factions.
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>>53499135
Plenty of things in the Tau dex that weren't seeing play look more viable now, I wouldn't worry.

They got nerfed for sure, but they sorely needed it. The army isn't just going to fold and die in the competitive scene now.
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>>53499135
Naw m8, things look pretty solid for normal tau players
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>>53499135
I wouldn't be concerned. Standard wisdom is to focus on your core units while we wait for the entirety of 8th to drop, as we won't know what's good/bad till then. The Start Collecting is a great deal.
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>>53498972
>things that never happened
>>53498788
fantasywelt
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>>53499099
Wow so he's literally autistic.

Just secretly film him pulling his right wing rubbish and ban him from the store. If he threatens to write bad things then upload it to Youtube.
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>>53499124
His armies are (he spends a lot of money in the store too, probably a reason he's still there), in order of when he started collecting them:

Vanilla Marines
Slaaneshi Daemons (LOL BOOBS - actual quote)
Necrons
and now Tyranids, he dropped 300 quid like it was nothing
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>>53499164
>Plenty of things in the Tau dex that weren't seeing play look more viable now,
only because all the things that WERE viable have doubled to trippled in points
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>>53499110
>Looting the Loot
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>>53498881
Wait what? I thought Tau were going to btfo of all other armies with their undercosted things again.
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>>53499137
Not everyone will agree with this
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>>53499205
There is objectively no way to play a good fun game of 40k with a Warlord-sized Titan on the board. It warps the entire game to it's retardedly out-of-scale stats and special rules.
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Anon, some tread ago you bring the comix about ork aviator. May you bring it again? or give link
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>>53498982

>his "leviathan" dreadnought doesn't know how to self-repair by bathing in the blood of its victims
>it can't even take a Soulburner Ribaudkin
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>>53499184
Lots of laws about filming people without their permission here. Fucked if I'm going to jail over that cunt.
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>>53499135

RAILSIDES ARE BACK BABY, GET HYPE.
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Black Templar leaks when? I need to know what the Emperor's Champion does!.
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>>53499229
>Warlord-sized Titan on the board
some sort of fun. It`s for people, who like really epic battles. Sometimes, its interesting
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>>53499187
Lolno

Cry more about your triptides being put in their place.
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There been any more big IG leaks?
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>>53498972
People like this are the reason im terrified to leave my small group of people and go to a store. I cant handle autists, or smells
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So does SM dreadnought include equipment? 70 seems undercosted. What about termies?
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What could I do to make some Boltguns from BaC look like Inferno Bolters for some kitbashed Rubrics?
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>>53499245
Even in public spaces? Damn, I guess get in touch with the people from the autistic magazine and ask for advice on how to explain to him that what he is doing is inappropriate? Sounds like you need to be a fucking specialist to deal with that shit.
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>>53499082
I want my fucking lost and the damned rules you faggot
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Tau have been leaked. Everything I want now is full Nids and Crons leaks
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>>53499295
They're not even coming out by launch, you're gonna have to wait anon. Play a real GW army and you wouldn't have this issue.
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>>53499294
They don't want to hear it. The manager has tried. They think he's an angel, despite the whole, you know, hating muslims thing. Hes their posterboy.

A bad mark against him would be bad PR for their company, no doubt.
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>>53499289

Freehand weird arcane sigils on them
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>>53499301
Has this been finished yet?
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>>53499248
>165p per railside
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>>53498742
>termagants cost less than a meltabomb
>meltabomb is 5pts
>tfw
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>>53499301
Can't wait for Tyrant Wings to cost 100+ points.

(Nah actually from the sounds of it they'll still be cheap but the benefits will be waay toned down).
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>>53499313
> real GW

its ok anon, being held back in school is nothing to be ashamed of
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>>53499301
what a beautiful beast. He likes cocaine?
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>>53499285
none of them include equipment. If you gave it two combat arms it would cost 80 more points, to 150.
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>>53498972
If he's still coming that implies that at least one person is still willing to play games against him. There is a simple solution to your problem anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfZ8XmMkR-c
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Any flyers leaked yet?
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>>53499245

I'm pretty sure there's also lots of anti hate speech laws if you really wanted to get rid of him.
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>>53499321
Fuck. I guess you already thought of reporting him to the cops for hate speech too.
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>>53499335

They've costed less than a meltabomb for years, that's not the issue with Tyranids. They need better biomorphs
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>>53499327
>>53499346
Oh, it's not my work - just pic from google for attention
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Deldar leaks please I need to know if I need anything other than venoms, talos, warriors and reavers
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>>53499377
You bastard
It worked tho
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>>53499335
Its fine, gaunts are cannon fodder for Hive Mind.
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>>53499349
That's the thing, there's always new people in the store. It's a big ass store, and we get a few new people a week. Do you want to be the guy who goes up to every new person and says "avoid the guy in the waistcoat and fedora"? Pretty sure the Manager wouldn't appreciate that, even if he would understand it.

The thing is, he's obviously driving people away, because he has thrown models against the wall (always his so far but it's a matter of time), chucked dice on the floor, and generally ruining games for people as some of their introductory games.

Of course he only plays new people, because only new people don't know to avoid him.
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>>53499335
>termagants cost less than a meltabomb
Where are you reading this?
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>>53499118
You cannot just imply butts and leave it at that. The prince of pleasure would be very disappointed in you.
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Notable Tau Base Model Cost Changes:
-FW/Breachers went from 9 to 8 ppm
-Pathfinders went from 11 to 5
-Crisis went from 22 to 42
-Broadside went from 65 to 80
-Riptide went from 180 to 209
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>>53499074
there's a diffrence between being given a tank and crossing your fingers behind your back when you pinky swear to use it to smithe the imperiums foes and ripping out all the electronics because you don't understand them and patching up the whole you clawed out of teh front with some steel plates you took of a sentinel
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>>53499358
heldrakes
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>>53499358
The two tau fliers.
We still have directional movement.
fliers still can't be charged except by units with FLY
shooting at fliers is at -1
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>>53499358
Heldrake got leaked. Costs 138 points before you add anything on, don't know how much its weapons will cost as far as I know. gonna bet it ends up around 180.
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>melta bombs need to be clamped in place
>lol nah, just throw that shit at anything 4 indes away
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>>53499424
On the pizza forum
I'm pizza myself
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Has anyone tried comparing their old lits with the new point values?

I've tried it with my Sisters and my current 1500 point list is coming out at over 2000 points. It's pretty much what I would expect, considering tansports have gone up in value all round, plus I think in one of the early FAQs or Q and As they mentioned 2000 points was probably the new standard.
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>>53499359
>>53499363
Pretty sure his support group or whatever could get him out of trouble if it ever happened. He'd just go crying to them like a four year old and they'd manage to convince the cops he "doesn't understand why what he's saying is wrong" etc etc, even though he knows fine well, he's just a cunt trying to get a rise out of people because he can't understand HYOO-MAN EMOTION and that's how he thinks socializing works because he comes to places like this and takes everything people say and the way they act at face value.

It's worth a try I guess but I'm not hopeful.
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>>53499463
Hit us up with more info
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>>53499471

>2000 points was probably the new standard

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I WANT MY SKIRMISH GAME BACK
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>>53499430
>-Pathfinders went from 11 to 5
markerlights cost 3 points, keep that in mind
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>>53499450
>no flyer specific stuff other than the fly keyword and the bonus to hit on the claws
makes me wonder what the fuck death from the skies is going to do
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>>53499463
any new CSM related pizza leaks?
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If the rumors are true, they are Ork or Nid tier now (7th) instead of their previous top mid.

Are you happy now? Are you not entertained?!
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>>53499503
Play Shadow War then.
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>>53499503

But what I'm saying is 2000 points armies are about the same size if not smaller than what is currently 1500 points.
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I have a mighty need for ork points values

This will make or break them

Also fuck the changes to the shokk attack gun
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>>53499430
Wargear adjusted (difference from current):
FW 8p (-1p)
Pathfinder 8p (-3p)
Crisis 62p (+30p) (stock 2xburst cannon, no supports)
Broadside 165p (+95p) (railside with 2 plasma rifles and no supports, cheapest 8e loadout)
Riptide 338p (+153p) (ion accelerator and 2 plasma rifles)
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>>53499449

>Tau flyers

Anyone got the datasheet?
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>>53499463
Is there a way to confirm the SoB rumors. Just to retire my two decade old army for good.

Bring back my GSC in return.
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>>53499514
Do we have weapon costs somewhere? I didn't see them on the tau leaks.
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>>53499477

Yeah, I doubt it would amount to anything, but at least it would get him out of the way for a while.
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>>53499551
Is there a compilation of the ork leaks so far? I missed the shokk attack gun.
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>>53499503
Then play 1000
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>>53499477
As an actual autism people who vehemently defend autists with that " he doesn't understand" shit are genuinely annoying. Being unable to understand emotions properly != Retarded baby who doesn't understand that their inflammatory actions are inflammatory.
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>>53499449
>fliers still can't be charged except by units with FLY
shooting at fliers is at -1
where does it state this ?
i had a look at the core rules already and it just mentioned they can disengage from combat i thought
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>>53499515
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>>53499179
It's not that incredible as a story, I can believe it.
>>53499099
Feel ya bud, I'm the guy who asked for story time.
We have a guy who's literally the same coming down at the FLGS but without the right wing ideals.
Instead, he just comes down with his mother (Who has a space marine miniature tattooed on her arm but can't fucking spend 2 euros to buy his son a bar of soap) and paints his orks.
On the other hand, for right wing ideals, there's an eleven years old kid who constantly spouts jokes about jews and ovens, and about how much he hates black people. And when I told him my father's black, he said "Not black people, the ones who come in the boats".
I had a good laugh, it's obvious that the kid is saying whatever his father/mother says, but the store manager and the staff guy didn't take it lightly. I could see why though, he usually comes in on a day where other kids come to paint.
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>>53499551
Gotta agree with the SAG comment, but if I had to sacrifice my favorite weapon for a codex that can actually do something id take the trade any day
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>>53499538
>they are Ork or Nid tier now (7th) instead of their previous top mid
No, they are not you funny baiter. Here is your (you) - come back with something better next time
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>>53499551
>>53499601
Is the SAG the thing that can teleport the Mek into combat on a doubles?
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>>53499599
lelshitkids
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>>53499561
>broadside
went to s6 t6 w6

>riptide
went to t7 w14
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>>53499567
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>>53499625
why the fuck are Tau so tanky?
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>>53499570
they were in the facebook image dump. I don't have the link, I just have them saved on my comp
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Tyranid rules when?
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>>53499618
Yeah it had a list of things that it did on doubles or an 11, worst being sucking himself into the warp and best creating a Vortex on a double 6 and straight removing models from the board, the amount of fire mine always drew was insane
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>>53499648
All the big stuff is getting more wounds, due to multi-wound weapons being things.
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>>53499567
lel that pdf is pretty cool, do you have any others?
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how many times has lucius the eternal died?
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>>53499593

>Still has to fly straight and can only turn 90 degrees
>20 inch minimum move
>Dies if it leaves the table

Ha ha ha holy shit flyers are worthless now, they'll be useful for maybe 2 turns tops.
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>>53499653
i kinda hate how all the points for weapons is on another page
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>>53499593
Pretty restrictive considering leaving the board destroys you now.
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>>53499653
Oh hey, Target Lock is still a thing! Do we know what it does now?
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>>53499592
>>53499563
see
>>53499593
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>>53499653

>Ion Accelerator
>107 points

GW knows
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>>53499592
>>53499449

oh nevermind it's on the sunsharks profile
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>>53499687
Worth it for points cost balance updates.
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>>53499487
I don't know about everything that's been leaked so far

I'll just dump whatever
Necrons:
Reanimation protocols are made at the start of your movement phase. Roll a D6 for every slain model, on a 5+ it comes back. You can roll again in the following turns. You cannot roll if the whole unit is slain.
Living metal allows for automatically regaining lost wounds
Basic Gauss is 24" Rapid Fire **Ap-2**, Gauss Cannon is Ap-3 DmgD3
Discipline 10
Warriors cost unchanged form 7th
Monolith M6" W20 S8 T8 Save3+, Gauss Flux Arc Heavy 3 S5 Ap-2, Whip Heavy 6 S8 Ap-2 DmgD6. When it gets charged, roll on a D6 and if 4+ (or worse, depending on wounds lost) charging unit gets D6 mortal wounds.
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>>53499648
broadsides are as big as a dreadnaught. Now they have stats to match
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>>53499669
Ahhh I loved that thing ever since it teleported a Mek into my Sorcerer who whiffed all his attacks and was killed.

It was funny imagining him caught so off guard that the Mek just laid an uppercut and knocked him out.
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>>53499700
Increased ap if all weapon systems are focused on one target
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>>53499158
Ahhh. Well fingers crossed that we get those soon and that they're good, then.
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>>53499723
Hottest guy's butt I've seen all week.
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>>53499135

they nerfed our cute turrets, now they can be used once per game apparently. When they're gone they're gone for good.
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>>53499700
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>>53499625
Where did we get the riptide stats? Do we have a full statblock? Do we have the crisis statblock?
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>>53499723
female(male)?
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>>53499720

>roll reanimation protocols for lost models every turn
>basic infantry weapons penetrate most armor
>leadership 10 on tests using the new method

I fear that we have no choice but to welcome our robotic overlords
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>>53499738
Isn't that multi-tracker, and isn't it a different bonus?

Advanced Targeting System is increased AP.
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>>53499779
Ooh, very nice!

Huh. So Target Lock is basically a permanent version of the Markerlight 3 bonus?
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>>53499723
Hey I can post too.
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>>53499782
Previous thread
>>53494244
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>>53499805
degenerate
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>>53498966
sadly no
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>>53499807
>>roll reanimation protocols for lost models every turn
This is a buff and a nerf.

Now if you shoot the whole squad off the board before the end of the turn RP never kicks in at all, whereas previously it was effectively FnP against every shot so made them harder to remove in the first place.
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>>53499822
>Vallejo paints
Poorfag detected
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>>53499736
Had everything from teleporting himself into CC with a Guardsman blob, to sucking an entire Terminator squad that had just DP'ed into the warp, to sucking himself and an entire squad of Lootas off the table turn 1.

Shit was hilariously fun and my Guard player was terrified of it for its unpredictability
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>>53499774
Huh, didn't notice that
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>>53499822
This is fake as hell. I mean a girl actually painting 40k? Never.
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>>53499805
Yup, the proud owner is around these threads every once in a while, though probably too bashful to come out.
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>>53499866
The girls I know who are into 40k are actually more into the painting aspect than the gaming side of things.
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>>53499846
It really encourages max-sized units.
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>>53499822
butt who was phone?
and what models are those, can't see shit with the blur
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>>53499822
>no coaster
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>>53499871
>proud owner
You mean the guy who was not brave enough to remove his dick so now he is just a faggy living insult to the all transgender people?
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>>53499918
Go back to tumblr faggot.
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>>53499705
>>53499593
Ok, razorshark is still bad it seems. Sunshark might be ok with those mortal wound bombs. Also:
>interceptor drone has single ion rifle
>model clearly has 2
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>>53499896
Phone was me, thats my friend painting random guardsmen since she wanted to test miniature painting. She liked it.

She also got the D later.
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>>53499705
Yfw heldraked aren't restricted by 90 degree turns and minimum movement?
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>>53499939
But Anon, Guard doesn't have that, S10 AP 1 is best they can do.
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>>53499931
>defending the crossdresser
Tumblrina spotted
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>>53499918
tumblr pls go
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>>53499939
Anon you shouldnt use D weapons in a casual game without an agreement between players
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>>53499969
>>53499931
>>53499918
you guys are the reason that
>>53498972
acts the way he does IRL
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>>53499969
Shall we start another "Go back to 1d4iddt" ?
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Any info on Black Templars yet?
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>>53499898
Hi, Olis.
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>>53499866
> I mean a girl actually painting 40k
There are 4 females in my playgroup and 3 of them are mainly painting their bfs models
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>>53499939
you mean she became a man?
souns like something joining the guard would make you.
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>>53499779
Could we get Ranged Weapons part one?
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>>53499939
my wraithlord from another craftworld
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The Tau players on dakkadakka are losing their MINDS right now.
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>>53499990
Nope, we should just talk about 40k without posting attention whores - even if their tattoo is 40k related, it's still shitposting. Just drop it
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>>53500008
>I've seen the full Tau rules. It's over. Dead as a viable faction. The whiners got what they bitched for.

THIS IS WHAT TAU PLAYERS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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>>53500008
In which way ? Can we already reap a rich bounty in Tau WAACfag tears ?
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>>53500008
Feels good, doesn't it?
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>>53500000
Its was a joke anon
Nice get tho
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>>53500008
Tell them no mercy to gunlines and shooting; the age of fighting is here.
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>>53500020
TRIM YOUR NAILS
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>>53500035
>>53500037
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/12360/724730.page#9392233
>3005 posts
IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER.
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>>53500008
where da link at?
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>>53500008

Why? Taubabbies are unable to handle their superduper cheese suits being fairly costed? Or is it the markerlights no longer being able to give guaranteed ignores cover and super overwatch to the entire army?
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>>53500046
I know but it's actually funny how painting females are a living meme - like females running nids
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>>53500035
>this is what waacfags believe
Just because some sperg crammed a riptide or stormsurge down your urethra doesnt mean all taufags will
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>>53500008
...Why? This all looks pretty good to me. The over-used units got substantial price increases, infantry got price decreases. Weapons are more or less what we expected. Markerlights are now more situational, but markerlight platforms are cheaper. This is basically what I was hoping for.
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>>53500020
If only you were a primaris marine.
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COMPILED TAU LEAKS INTO A PDF
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>>53500020
Saved for OP general pic
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>>53500100
Now that's some Greater Good! Thanks anon!
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>>53500100
Thank you but please include the dolphin porn next time
>>
TYRANIDS
WHEN?
H
E
N
?
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>>53500118
a few days ago
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>>53500008
Link? Or at least juicy screencaps?
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>>53500100
So no faction-specific stratagems at all? I thought we'd at least have basic T'au one?
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>>53500100
Noice, thanks.

>>53500115
Bruv if conpussy was difficult I wouldn't have had sex in 4 years.
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>>53500100
WHY IS IT LANDSCAPE. I FUCKED UP
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>>53500115
>Here is she as a model for our annual trolling of local con that "getting conpussy is fucking easy".
for what purpose?
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>>53500115
Why'd you post the same image behind a spoiler?
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I'm glad Tau are finally shit because I now play the gundam wing list of my dreams and have no one complain
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>>53500154
YOU FUCKED UP
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>>53500154
it's readable either way. good work.
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>>53500075
i was going to say that all they do is play the game and have their boy friends paint but dammit. That is such a better meme.
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Try this one. Another Tau pdf.
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>>53500115
My man. Taught a friend of mine who calls me daddy and wears lingerie while worshipping me how to paint and play AoS. She liked both, 40k is next.
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>>53500159
because he thinks that suddenly makes it not against the rules
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>>53495313

What about the rule of one, where do I see it?
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>>53500145
>So no faction-specific stratagems at all?
Those are likely coming in codexes. As well as relics and warlord traits
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>>53500159
I dunno, makes it a bit more funnier I guess?
>>53500157
..To troll people? For some autistic con-goers getting a waifu and laid is some quest for holy grail. And they get so pissed off when other people get girls (which of course means the girls are sluts).
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>>53499894
So as someone who got a start collecting box of Necrons (+plus some extra warriors//immortals) is building up for 8th, my 20 warriors is only 1 squad and not 2 of minimum effectiveness. :-( I hate warrior sprues

Also if this guys leaks legit should I order a monolith?
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>>53500178
>you can upload pdfs
holy fuck
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>>53500198
Not sure what he's talking about, we've gotten the full core rules already, the only "Rule of One" is that a single unit cannot use the same power twice in a turn. What was feared was that two units may not be able to use the same power, but that is not the case.
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>>53500198
Only Smite can be cast more than once.
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>>53500217
welcome, newfriend. make sure to turn off pdf macros to minimize your risk of infection.
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>>53500185
Nudity and porn is against rules. Lews pics arent. I have both of her.
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>>53500178
If you squint you can almost read some of it.
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>>53500216
The way 8e is going, they seem to be getting at least close to their goal of all units being at least halfway usable. If you like the flavor and gameplay of a monolith, get one. If you don't, it won't be necessary.
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>>53500217
Hey!

It's my turn to "hownewru" because I knew that before you did.
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>>53500139
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So, how good are the Pulse Bombs now? Does it cause mortal wounds?
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>>53500226
I (>>53500224) stand corrected, I hadn't seen this. Welp.
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>>53500235
then upload the illegal ones to an imgur album
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>Riptide base cost 207 points
>22 points for two plasma rifles(now 100% inferior to imperial plasma weapons)
>40 points for two smart missiles systems
>42 points for two fusion blasters
>55 points for heavy burst cannon
>107 points for ion accelerator
>has vehicle damage chart
>automatically takes damage whenever it novacharges

On a scale of 1 to 10, how traumatized are Tau players right now?
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>>53500258
>dead as a viable faction
What is wrong with these people?
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>>53500259
one dice per model in the unit (max 10).
5+ is a mortal wound, 4+ for infantry
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>>53500212
Is it like, "oh let me pretend I uploaded a nude" type deal?
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>>53500274
I'm thrilled! I'm looking forward to being able to play on a leveled playing field with the majority of other factions.
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>>53500180
>>53500180
>Taught a friend of mine how to paint and play AoS. She liked both, 40k is next
Are you me? Have same way with my gf
also we are both mtg players and we learn one of her friends how to play. Now we are having a pretty nice threesome relationship - tabletop games master race
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>>53500259
Read >>53500178 or >>53500100 and tell us.
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>>53500258
Kek. A mod already edited it.
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>>53499591
>and that's how he thinks socializing works because he comes to places like this and takes everything people say and the way they act at face value.

Then he'd know to shut his cakehole about muslims by now.
If he's out an about and having actual conversation with people he gets emotions.
While he may have trouble getting hints, simple fact is he doesn't care.

Suggest having the store owner write down "Yes I'm serious, No no one thinks it's hilarious" have it laminated and present it to spurgo with a receipt acknowledging having received it.

That'll get through his fat head and put him solidly in his place.

>>53499591
This.
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>>53500245
Who could not like a floating death pyramid?

Still eagerly awaiting stats for stalker, I'm assembling mine tonight and don't really want to magnetize all that shit for the guns, so hoping one of them if the clear choice just to make it easier. Twin linked is strong now so maybe gauss
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>>53500008
>>53500178
So, who wants to bet all the Taufags talking shit during the Tau faction focus are crying their eyes out right about now?
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>>53500274
about 2/10 because riptide and stormsurges were for bandwagoning WAACfags anyway and now they'll probably go back to eldar now
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I don't get it the psychic table says I can either roll for them or choose them, why would I ever want to do the former
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>>53500226
>psychic focus
LAAMEE
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>>53500274
I wonder how all the people who have an army of scat bikes and 3 riptides and one stormsurge feel right about now?
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>>53500258
little did he know he would soon become a living meme
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>>53499420
Another stone in the "stores are where the ones no club will have goes" house.
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>>53500258
moronic
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>>53500305
I wouldn't count on one weapon being clearly superior. I'm a Tau player who now has to deal with my basic infantry no longer having a clearly superior weapon option. It used to be that Rifles were superior to Carbines 99% of the time, but the added mobility of Assault means that Carbines actually do their own thing now. I wouldn't be surprised if other weapon choices follow suit.
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>>53500274
I don't see how any Tau player is upset about the Riptide changes. Obviously it was overcosted. But rather than just up the points there were some major buffs to it:
- 14 wounds
- Drones actually matter (and you can take even more drones to cover it)
- Heavy Burst Cannon is better (my preferred gun anyways)
- 2 secondary guns that can each fire at their own target
- No more failed morale tests

It's god damn glorious for anyone who didn't spam them and use Ion accelerators. The only thing I'll miss is deepstriking them.
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>>53500331
Artifacts and spell lists work the same way in AoS. Some people just like rolling on random tables.
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>>53499110
>Orkstealer
>Not Greenstealer

Come on mang
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>>53500258
>this fucking signature

Goddamn weebs.
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>>53500362
And it can actually detach from melee and shoot.
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>>53499567
I was one of the sister doomsayers last thread and I've actually been doing some thinking

Aggressive Sisters might be scary as fuck with Acts of Faith. Fragile blitzkrieg aggression lists. With 4 Imagifiers you get 3 acts of Faith on average a turn, abs good deployment lets you spend them on whichever units you want.

On most tables I've played, Celestine and her Gal Pals getting a free move, followed by a regular move, with a speed of 24 is going to get her into melee turn 1. Free move immolators can potentially get their cargo into threat range of the enemy deployment zone, and dominions in immolators that can free move TWICE will definitely get there, maybe even to enemy fire support if there's a good lane to drive in. The race queen flag wavers can then either footslog after their friends to grant the survivors extra volleys of melta/flamer fire, or hang back with the Exorcists/Heavy Bolter Retributors after the initial rush and be force multipliers for fire support.

Sororitas are still lacking for options and flexibility, but most enemy plans will falter a bit when 3 immolators and Celestine drive up before they even get a turn.
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>>53500355
>http://imgur.com/a/PlHsN
and i thought this was a christian board
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>>53500355
Shibari is pure love.
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>>53500360
At least there's some good guides on magnets for the stalker on utube. Hopefully my 3mil magnets aren't too big
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>>53500374
Their actual canon name from the Orks PoV is Bugboyz, but I like your style
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>>53500281

Wait. +4 for ALL infantry?
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>>53500369
Is it that before the game both players agree on rolling or choosing?
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>>53499035
yeah, but it doesnt make much sense when im paying the same amount with shipping like i would here

>>53499045

they seem to have the best discount on stuff here in germany, seems ok. thanks
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>>53500332
I predict a lot of people moving to power rather than points as a way of balancing casual games in my local meta.
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>>53499019
Its ok anon, i miss him too
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>>53500392
Magnetizing is also something that gets much easier with practice.
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>>53500381
Forgot, also the new nova charge is way better. I'd much rather take a constant 1 mortal wound and always get the effect than have a 1/3 chance of taking damage and not getting the bonus.
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>>53500355
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>>53500291
Different anon chiming in here, I already got the threesome relationship with two girls but so far I haven't managed to get either of them into Warhammer with me, although we do all play D&D together with the rest of our friend group - one of the girls said she might start orks in 8th ed though, so fingers crossed the rules are nice to her
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>>53500398
No, you decide for yourself if you want to roll or choose.
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>>53500300

A Sunsharck Bomber may drop one pulse bomb as it flies over enemy units in its movement phase. To do so, after the model has moved, target one enemy unit that it flew over. Then, roll a D6 for each model in that unit (up to a maximum of 10), adding 1 to the result of the enemy unity INFANTRY. For each roll 5+, the target unit suffers 1 mortal wound.
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>>53500397
see
>>53499593
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>>53500355
>>
I would give anything right now to see what stats a wraithknight has.......I want paint it, it'll be my first fully painted model but I won't buy it unless I know it's worth the money. I need to see for myself
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>>53500443
Holy shit I should have read that closer.

Looks like people might finally start running bombers, that's disgusting.
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>>53500443
That... actually makes bombs good. Although flyers in general seem bad and very hard to maneuver.
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>>53498972
Why would you go on the internet and tell lies?
>>
How long till List Builders are updated with DA and Tau 8e info?
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>>53500391
As much as i hate bondage, Nana to Kaoru was fucking awesome, but that's because it's actually deep enough to establish a relationship.

Nothing hot about a whoever in bandage, might as well just be a trussed up ham, meat and stings.
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>>53500477
don't forget, there's no weapon facing anymore, so it doesn't matter if you fly over your target.
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>>53500470
>it'll be my first fully painted model
>>
What are the landraider redeemer flamers statted at? I didn't see them on the index. :(
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>>53499420
>Do you want to be the guy who goes up to every new person and says "avoid the guy in the waistcoat and fedora"?
Yeah. And I'd do it loudly enough he can hear me too. But then I'm a big advocate of public shaming to correct behavior.
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>>53500397
Yeah, against 10+ model strong units it deals 5 mortal wounds on average. Death from above.
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>>53500493
I haven't even played yet
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>>53500178
hold one a second going off this vespids aren't completely shit 15 pts for 14" move t4 sv4+ with a S5 ap-2 d1 gun ... this is maddness
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>>53500500
They same as in Baal Predator? If so then its 8" heavy D6 S6 ap-2 D2 autohit. Bretty gud.
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>>53500509
Oh wait, maxes out at 10. That's not so bad then.
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>>53499435
I always GSC as inviting the local PDF force out to drinks and then giving 'm the good old mindzap, so that when the Patricarch calls they just drive off the base in their tanks with commissars yelling at them.
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>>53500443

Fucking finally. My new weapon of choice vs hordes.
>>
We still get +1 Attack for charging, right?
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>>53500522
vespids have always been a good unit, just overshadowed by the bullshit in the codex
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>>53498972
>typical /pol/ user plays 40k
>>
So Ethereals no longer grant bonus VP, and their Hover Drone now has the benefit of letting them more easily flee combat due to Fly? Seems like the Invocations are a bit weaker now, though.
>>
>>53500470
it is a pretty model
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>>53499680
I was really hoping they just dropped that restricted turning bullshit like they seem to have with all the other facing and angle rules.

At least ork bombers aren't expected to survive more than one turn anyway. Just hope they are cheap enough to be playable.
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>>53500554
No mention of it, so far as I know, in the rules leak.
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>>53500513
its more about starting on a huge ass model as their first model instead of first ruining your fair batch of 100 small minis before you get decent at it. thinning your paints is a delicate skill
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>>53500554
Nope, unless you're Death Company or Khorne or something with a special rule.
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yfw the HELLFORGED LEVIATHAN DREADNOUGHT is superior to the Riptide
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>>53500556
Yeah, just like rubirics and tyranid warriors.
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>>53500560
Hell, I'm a literal nazi and I agree with you. The entire place has been completely taken over by reddit spergs.
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>>53500572
>filename
The line from the movie is "draw me like one of your French girls" not "paint me."
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>>53498742
amerifat requesting a decent site to buy 40k shit
I know about thewarstore, but is there anything with more than a 15% discount?
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>>53500211

Wait, so there's currently no incentive to playing a monofaction imperial list?

Everyone's just got the standard 3, no matter what mix of guard/chapters etc.?
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The Power From Pain leak gave me hope, but I've been hurt before. Have we heard anything else about how Drew Carey fares in this new edition?
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>>53500579
But I like giant robots and wanted to do a giant robot army
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>>53500605
I hope you don't seriously draw models instead of painting them
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Someone post the khornate berzerker profile

Pls & thx
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>>53500605
>draw me like one of yours rule34 girls
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>>53499680
>his planes can't fly backwards
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>>53500605
that's the joke.jpeg
>>
What does the fly rule does?
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>>53500479
Eh In my experience it's in the realistic ream, we've Mr Mackerel in our store, a 40 some man whol dines exclusively on mackrel and mayo on toast, with a side of diet coke.

As such he sweats, breathes and farts mackerels and mayo, his clothes are sovered in it, his bears is full of it, his teeth corroded by soda have every crevice filled by it, and anything of interest he sees will be picked up and then covered in it.

And then there the stories, pointless endless storis with no point segueing into one another for his entire stay.
retold because he noticed other people got attention telling them, so he'll retell with though he don't know the points, half the facts or the timing, but he'll tell the much enthusiasm, heavy mackerel infused breathing, mackerel covered gesturing and mackerel projectile pronunciations.
>>
>>53500595

Rubrics are better in the new edition, they are now properly resistant to small arms fire, as haunted suits of armor should be.

Don't know yet about Tyranid Warriors.
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>>53500613
If there are no faction specific stratagems now then no, otherwise playing a monofaction means you can use their stratagems as opposed to being limited to just generic or 'imperium' stratagems.

You also have to consider that we dont fully know what Matched Play will be like so there might be more limitations in there.
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>>53500620
that's all well and good, but you should probably pick up troops for practice anyways. I'd feel horrible about ruining a big ol' 100-something dollar model with beginner skills
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>>53500613
well we haven't seen the imperial indexes.

All we know for SURE is there's no benefit from playing purely tau (other than you have to)
>>
>>53499190
Ahh, good old Deffskwadron
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>>53500651
Even if they stay mostly the same, Tyranid warriors get an improvement simply from instant death being gone and swapped for a damage stat. 1 in 3 chance to survive a Lascannon is better than 0
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>>53500642
Lets them fly.
Out of combat and over terrain.
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>>53500596
>I'm a literal nazi
Man, nationalsozialismus is a meme ideology like anarchism these times. Why even bother?
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>>53500676
but a lot of weapons that previously did only one wounds now make d3 or more

there's a reason practically all multiwounds units got more wounds
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>>53499720
Is this legitimate things or are you just yanking my chain. If you are......

This has been the information I have been begging for since the leaks started!!!!!!!
>>
Do interceptor drones fly on their own or are they bound to the ground once detached from the mothership?
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>>53500589
>>53500576
>no extra attack for charging
>no extra attack for 2 ccws
>while shooting only got buffs
Oh boi, melee is going to suck some real ass now, isn't it?

Ahahahahaha fuck you GW. Can't wait so see melee dissappear from the table altogether.
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>>53499328
6 wounds and the drone changes mean they aren't dying.
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So, are Riptides some form of extravagant artillery instead of the killing machines they used to be now?
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>>53500718
Assault for sure is in a weird position.

I guess every vehicle being an assault vehicle massively helps, but on the other hand even rhinos are like 70p now
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>>53500709
Now that we've seen that broadsides have 6 wounds, I wouldn't be surprised if warriors did too.
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>>53500709
Except most of the weapons that do that are the ones that were already S8 anyway.

Force weapons? Kill them regardless. Powerfists? Double out toughness? Krak missiles? Bane of their existence.

Now anything that does d3 wounds needs to get lucky to get a kill, and anything that does d6 can be survived with a similar amount of luck.

The biggest worry I've seen so far is Thunder hammers. Literally tailor made to smash warriors now
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>>53500710
It's been bandied around since yesterday, but we don't know if it's just made up or a real thing.
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>>53500718
Nigga, you went full retard.

Chargers always attack first, you can shoot your pistols in melee now (and most main assault troops still get +1 attack from their basic weapons now giving that, e.g. chainswords)
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>>53500710
Why this model looks so bad? No matter how neat it is painted, there is something wrong with it
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Really hope the Imperial Fists get some love this time around
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>>53500718
>>no extra attack for charging
You get to swing everything you have before the other person gets to poke.

>>no extra attack for 2 ccws
Every chain weapon in the game grants an extra attack base now. And pistols (the other CC weapon option) allow you to shoot while engaged.
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>>53500711
They can split off and do their own thing, but with 20 movement I wouldn't exactly call them bound to anything
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>>53500758
Warriors were confirmed 3W in the faction focus. That might be a good thing. If they stay cheap to provide easy synapse.
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>>53500770
It's a blocky triangle with guns on it.
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>>53500784

I mean, do they count as flyers?
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What do we know about my boys the eldar?

Is Bladestorm still in? What's it like now?
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>>53499822
>not tyranids
fake
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>>53500770

It's a space pyramind with guns and a slingshot on top.

It's pretty ugly.
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>>53500744
Its exactly what it was always supposed to be, a rare experimental siege-breaker suit. Big guns, heavy armor, and mobile to handle threats, but still costly to field.
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Has their been any word on how arc weapons work?
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>Pathfinders with pulse accelerator increase the range of all nearby firewarriors.
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>>53500385

Celestine also gives an act of faith to a unit within 6". I can see myself using most of my command points to reroll imagifier tests.

The main thing I want to know now, is what slot they go in.
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>>53500798
They have the Fly keyword, but I don't think they benefit from the Hard to Hit rule or have a minimum speed or the other things full planes have.
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>>53500764
>Chargers always attack first, you can shoot your pistols in melee now (and most main assault troops still get +1 attack from their basic weapons now giving that, e.g. chainswords)
Orks Slugga boyz just got a whole lot deadlier (and that's just based on the Faction Focus we've seen). Yeah, the lack of +1 on charge sucks, but it's a fair trade off I suppose.

>>53500816
>It's a space pyramind with guns and a slingshot on top.
>It's pretty ugly.
I don't even think Ork Lootas could make that thing look beautiful.

Then again, Ork Lootas probably define beautiful as "We put some new dakka on your old dakka so you can shoot gitz while shooting gitz!"

They can loot other Necron tech and make it look cool though. Pic related.
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>>53500846
>Throw in cadre Fireblade
>3 pulse rifle shots at 18 inches>>53500847
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Tyranid psychic powers, courtesy of a guy on dakka who claims he spoke with someone that has the index:

1. Catalyst, basically 5+ FnP (we knew about this one already)
2. Gives target enemy unit -1 to hit and -1 Leadership
3. Target Tyranid unit can Move and shoot Heavy weapons at no penalty, Advance and shoot Assault weapons at no penalty, & Advance and still charge
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Recommend me some bugs for my nidzilla army.

As of now I have a hive tyrant, 20 termagants, 3 warriors and a Carnifex.

Trygon is absolutely going to be in, it's my favorite model. But what else, tervigon? Raveners? A second carnifex?
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>>53500885
>They can loot other Necron tech and make it look cool though. Pic related.
Still waiting.
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>>53500885
>can loot other Necron tech and make it look cool th

Saw a pretty sweet ork job on a monolith counting as a voidshield generator
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>>53500894
Second Carnifex for sure.
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>>53499680
Really? Fliers sound GREAT now. You no longer have to draw LoS from the weapon and there are no weapon arcs, so with a 360 degree firing arc you can just fly in circles in the middle of the table for 5 turns straight. No more worrying about rolling for reserves in order to get to play.
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>>53500889
Those seem generally useful for a lot of units. 5+ feel no pain can benefit gaunts about as well as it can an MC, and the last one is good for both gun organisms and combat ones.

The middle one feels the most situational, but it's good for defense if you want to protect your entire force from one threat, rather than the first, which is for protecting one unit from everything else.
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Kinda weird that Mont'ka and Kauyon are abilities on commanders instead of Stratagems.
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>>53500764
Except you have to wait until your next shooting phase to use your pistols, which tend to be worse than melee weapons so it's still a straight nerf.

>>53500783
Thing is that will all the ranged and overwatch buffs most of your units will reach cc at half strenght at best. Since most cc units are getting 2 less attacks our lethality has been greatly diminished, so we most likely wont be able to wipe most units (not even with battleshock considering how easily you can ignore it) before they fall back and their buddies shoot us to death.

>Every chain weapon in the game grants an extra attack base now
Citation needed. So far only combat knives and chainswords are known to increase attacks, chainfists and axes give no extra attacks.
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>>53500889
That seems reasonable.
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>>53500894
One can never have enough DISTRACTION CARNIFEX!

Yeah, I know that tactic doesn't work that well anymore since fexes got nerfed, but who knows with 8e? One 'fex is bad enough, but having 2 of those bullet magnets is a great way to draw enemy fire away from the other units until its too late.
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>>53500943
You still overwatch on 6's and flamers can't overwatch you if you do a long charge outside their range.
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>>53500885

This is pretty cool
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Is there any fantasy model that has around the same size of a wraithknight? Looking at my conversion options because I dont like the huge chest. Hell I don't even know what it looks like without the chestplate after 30 minutes of googling
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>>53499846
This is how it used to be though, and i'm hyped. It sets us as the dudes that come back from the dead and not just another army with fuck loads of feel no pain.
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>>53500605
>pointing out the obvious
>missing the joke
Have a potato, potato
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>>53500894
Vemonthropes, makes your bugs harder to hit while you close that gap and should give you enough coverage to protect the whole team if you're going nidzilla
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For the love of Jervis how did we get so much info on SOB, and not a lick on Chaos Daemons?
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>>53498742
When was Angron at his angriest?
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Just making sure I'm not missing anything; Manta Strike is greater than 9" away from nearest enemy at the END of movement, and the melta effect on Fusion Blasters is only WITHIN 9", so you cannot drop a Monat and have it use its melta in the same turn?
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>>53500889
Some other nid info:

Mawloc Deep Strike only needs to be more than 1" away from enemies. When it arrives, roll a D6 for each enemy unit within 6"
1: No effect
2-3: Unit suffers 1 Mortal Wound
4-5: Unit suffers D3 Mortal Wounds
6: Unit suffers 6 Mortal Wounds

Some FoC stuff:
Broodlords are HQ again
Mucolid Spores are FA now, no more cheap troop tax

Some points costs:
Base Hive Tyrant is 147 before weapons
Tervigon is 217
Genestealers are only 12ppm (holy fuck son)
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>>53500973
I think that giant tree the Sylvaneth have is actually around that height. It also has a sword and everything
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>>53500993
Only infantry, mind you.
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>>53501020
>Genestealers are only 12ppm
likely before rending claws
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What are the chances of spamming Kroot Hounds?
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>>53500993
Leaks say that Venoms only protect Infantry now, no more benefit to the big bugs.
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>>53501023
>Sylvaneth

Treelord?
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>>53501036
>4 points per model
>minimum 4 in a squad

You'd need to include an HQ for that detachment that's fast attack focused, but I think you could really flood the board with doggos
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>>53500579
Thin paints? I thought I was supposed to thicken them. Shit.
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>>53501020
I'm alright with this
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>>53500996
Because they are loved army by the players and not just a waacfag army?

Honestly no idea, my guess is not much people actually like chaos?
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>>53501036
I had a plan of converting FB skinks into krootling scouts as a count-as hounds. Now that they are sanic fast and don't reroll outflanks I'm glad I never got to that.
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>>53500964
Except flamers have like 9" range so you'll never make a charge from outside that range.

Unless they carry over World Eater rules from 7th, but I'm not getting my hopes up after all this bullshit.
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>>53501104
>He can't make 34" charges
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>>53501036
>Vanguard Detachment
>Ethereal on hover drone or Commander in crisis suit
>Loadsa doggos out for a walk
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>>53501084
>loved army by the players
You mean all 4 of you waifufags?

Top kek.
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>>53500605
>this autistic
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So, Commander comes standard with BC and MP, but can swap them and/or take two extra options. If you choose to swap them, you don't get a refund on the point values for those weapons, do you? So if I wanted, say, a Commander with two Plasma Rifles, there would be no reason for me not to take the BC and MP which come standard?
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>>53501137
>forgetting the cheetah pic
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>>53501137
I can't hear you over all my leaks!
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>>53501051
That's the one I was thinking of, though on further reflection I think it'd be a bit shorter and smaller over all.
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>>53501104
>Except flamers have like 9" range
flamers are 8"
you need to roll 8 (from 8.01" where yoj are safe to 0.01 where you are within the 1" zone of melee), which is doable, especially with some special rules (there seem to be a lot of re-rolls for charge distance)
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>>53501015
I'll take it that this is correct?
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>>53501155
I think you only pay the points after you finish all the swaps
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>>53500966
>This is pretty cool
That's an non-standard Monolith. It doesn't count.
But yeah, it does look cool.
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>>53501036

High. Very high. These aren't exactly broken or anything, but their tactical value is high for their role as cheapo blocking and clogging chaff.
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>>53501175
yes it is
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>>53501028
elaborate
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>>53501179
Ahh, that makes sense.

>>53501197
Thank you!
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>>53501161
well it's impossible to find the torso anywhere anyways
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>Nobs S5 T4 W2 Sv 4+
Str 4 boyz pls
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>>53501135
The best part is after spamming six units of dogs you still have slots for the other Kroot units. Forge World Kroot leaks when?
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>>53501223
>Str 10 klaws

wish they bumped nobz to 3 wounds tho
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Tidewall Shieldline reflecting shots are mortal wounds. The more things change...
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>>53501210
venomthropes give -1 to hit against your infantry units around it.
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>>53501253
Meganobz have three now.
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>>53499969
>>53499931
>>53499918
goddamn 40k attracts so many autists, I bet you are avoided in your LFGS too.
If you saw a tranny in your store would you start screeching at them?
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>>53501257
*Shoot bolter at FW behind shield wall*
*Tiny piece of metal bounces back with enough force to completely ignore 2+ armor*
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Minotaurs
Space wolves
White scars
Imperial fists (potentially with black Templar rules, I like the pre heresy black and yellow a lot)
Flesh tearers

Pick my primaris chapter. Been out of the game for years, these are my favourite chapters.
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>>53501278
please stop, that argument has been over for a while now
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>>53501265
the absence of coverage on the big bugs is troubling

I wonder if regeneration is reliable now
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>>53501278
>responding to hour old posts after we got away from that shit topic
Where do you think you are? Go back
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>>53501233
why would forgeworld make anything but marines? why would forgeworld bring back those terrible units?
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>>53501303
Wolves
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>>53501303
White Scars.
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>>53501313
Big bugs now have tons more Wounds, are harder to Wound, and their armour saves don't get taken away so easily.
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>>53501257
>Tidewall Shieldline reflecting shots are mortal wounds
wait, really?
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>>53501257

Well, at least you can blow them up now.
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>>53501303
imperial fisters
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>>53501160
What leaks, cuck? You mean the IMPERIAL AGENTS leaks?

>not even their own army anymore
>w-we aren't being squatted, I s-swear!
Lmao
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>>53501303
Flesh Tearers
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>>53501253
Always found that Warboss klaw so much better than a Nob klaw too... now all will be dealing D3krump to knights and LRs on 2+
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>>53501381
>on 2+
3+
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>>53501303
furfags
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>>53501338
as if the increase in wounds isn't already balanced out by all the weapons getting multiple wounds
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>>53501381
>2+
unless it's doubling their toughness that's a 3+ to-wound roll, 4+ to-hit because it's unwieldy.
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Flesh Tearers were included with the BA rules drop.
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>>53501340
So are a lot of things like Mandiblasters, hammer of wrathe, and bombs.

I think Mortal wounds are mainly used for those extra bits of damage that happen separate from the normal stuff in the phase to cut down on rolling

So rather than the gunline reflecting the shots and having them wound and save as normal, it's just X wounds that get past whatever
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>>53498742
https://youtu.be/eTK6ZxjsLhs
first review of 8th edition, mentioning things like how deployment is like in age of sigmar
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>>53501162
>doable
Not without flat distance bonuses, which dont seem to be a thing anymore.
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>>53501313
Well helldrake (and some other unit I think) heals 1 wound every turn. No rolls required. Also nids have both 5+ fnp and -1 to hit debuff on enemy psychic powers to make shit last longer.
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>>53501413
this

Looks like everyone and their grandma pumps out multipls d3 damage shots
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>>53501423
I dont speak klingon
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>>53501422
yeah but that's incredibly op even if it is convenient
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>>53501405
Shit.
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>>53498788
battlefield berlin,planet fantasy, etc
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>>53501413
The weapons which do multiple damage tend to still require the same number of shots as before to kill their targets, while the mid-range and weaker weapons take far more.
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>>53501372
Sshh..let the 4 Sobfags on earth believe they matter for five minutes
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So do I need to add model points and wargear points even if I use default wargear?
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>>53501278
>implying those genetic dead ends have enough balls to leave their safe space
All it takes is a simple point and laugh and they take care of themselves
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>>53501486
Yes
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>>53501439
Uncultured schweinshund
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>>53501020


So, Tervigon has to pay to spawn basic termagants and is even more expensive than before.

Into the trash it goes.
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>>53501439
>not speaking the emprah's tognue
Not everyone can be enlightened
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>>53501442

It did the same thing in the previous edition. A landraider could kill itself with its own bolter fire.
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>>53501492
Then a terminator squad would go for about 250 points..
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>>53501512
It only has to pay to spawn totally new units. You can replace 10 dead termagants in an existing unit for free.

We also don't have all the rules yet, most things are more expensive across EVERY army, chill out.
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Have we seen anything chaos besides the stuff from this morning?
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>>53501531
Seems to be in line with other elite shit.
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>>53501512
it only pays for new spawn, if used to reinforce an existing group to full strength its free so just stick him with a group on an objective and you're good as gold
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>>53501531
Yes. But they're also a lot better than before.
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Is the age of the railguns back? Everything with a railgun has a chance of causing at least 1 mortal wounds in addition to normal damage.
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>>53501303
Make up your own you lazy hack.
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>>53501536
>>53501551
Also it no longer has to roll for its spawn and cannot crap out and lose the ability to spawn more for the rest of the game 40% of the time on turn 1.
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>>53501539
Some leaks from the italian forum, but no pics. I really want to see the Khorne Berzerker profile.
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>>53501435
>Also nids have both 5+ fnp and -1 to hit debuff on enemy psychic powers to make shit last longer.
Sorry if I look a bit pessimistic about this but this rule here kinda breaks the plans for a comprehensive coverage >>53500226


really the strong points of nids I'm seeing are numbers and velocity
because if carnifex are roughly as tough as before, you can cram almost twice as many now
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>>53501549
>>53501554
I'm actually fine with that. I prefer elite units to actually feel elite.
The number of elite choices though... Plus the Primarines. Too much stuff going on
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How's this look for a basic list to start messing around with 8e's rules?

Tau 500pt Battalion:
HQ: Commander w/ MP, ATS, EWO
Troop: 3 squads of 5 FW, two with Pulse Rifles, one with Pulse Carbines
Elite: One squad of two Crisis Suits each with two Plasma Rifles and a Multi-Tracker, one monat Crisis Suit with two Fusion Blasters and a Shield Generator.
Fast Attack: 5 Pathfinders
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>>53501490
So you'd actually do that? Randomly point at someone and scree like an autist?
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>>53501568
Maybe. I sure as hell am going to run my rail rifle pathfinders now that I can mark and rail different targets with them.
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Interesting that the Tau Start Collecting doesn't have enough models to fill a basic Battalion, due to not having enough FW to make three squads.
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>>53501595
Not quite twice as many, you need to factor in weapons costs, but 87 points for a barebones fex with double scytals plus all the other buffs from the core rules is pretty sexy. I mean you can get three of those and still have points for biomorph upgrades for the same price as a Riptide now.
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What are the flesh tearer rules?
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>>53501650
neither does the skitarii
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>>53501626
Plan would be for the Commander to stick with the two Plasma suits, using the slightly greater range to stay behind the other two. The FB suit has the shield to hopefully let it survive a second turn post-drop. Carbine team moves around more while the Rifles want to camp out.
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>>53501650
I think the minimum 1 HQ, 2 Troops is called a Patrol Detachment now.
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>>53501630
Not him, but there's quite a difference between laughing and autistic screeching.

If youtube videos are any indication, they're the most likely to screech at you for refusing to play them.
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>>53501630
Who said anything about screeching? A simple hand gesture for your friends and an audible laugh is more than sufficient or if you're by yourself a sudden chuckle and a clear display of cellphone photography works too
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>>53501303
go with the lemons
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>>53501679
Patrol is 1 HQ, 1 Troop and grants no additional CP. Patrol is closer to the old Allied Detachment. Battalion is the new CAD.
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>>53501704
Yes, and Start Collecting kits are designed for Patrol size, not Battalion size.
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What is the typical stats of plasma weapons now?
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>>53501650
>>53501666
>>53501679
Its actually 1hq 1 troop now called patrol
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How is the heavy flamer going to work since heavy weapons get a -1 to hit when you move but they just do autohits?
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>>53501626
Comments? Wasn't sure about best armament for the Commander at this low of a point value. Initially had it with three Plasma Rifles with a MT, but that left me with a spare 5 points with nothing good to use them on. I figure the MP helps with that bit of extra range and versus higher W units, and EWO can combat the odd post-start entry.
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>>53501665
Sames as Blood Angels
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>>53501704
>>53501727
I see. Thanks.
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>>53501731
They ignore the usual penalty to moving and shooting. However you cannot Advance and shoot with them like you can with the normal Assault Flamers.
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>>53501722
7 STR, -2 AP 1 DMG normally, 8 STR -2AP 2 DMG with gets hot+
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>>53501731
probably act as twinlink and fires twice
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>>53501698
not him, but if you pulled that shit in my local the manager would kick you out so fast
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>>53501749
it's -3 AP in both modes
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>>53501722
S 7 AP -3. Overcharge for S 8 and damage 2, but if you roll a 1 to hit the model dies, or takes 1 wound no saves if its a vehicle
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>>53501721
I'm pretty sure the SC! were all designed for CAD-sizes; they haven't been updated, at least not yet. You can pretty easily fit a Battalion inside the points that the SC totals to, given how much Crisis cost now. Drop a single suit to get five more FW and you get an extra 3 CP. If you're playing at 500, you ought to be using a Battalion.
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REMINDER THAT IMPERIAL PLASMA WEAPONS ARE NOW STRICTLY BETTER THAN TAU PLASMA RIFLES
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>>53501749

Is it heavy, rapid fire...?
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>>53501757
>laughing at someone is a bannable offence.
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>>53501731
Last I checked, Heavy Flamers were actually Assault weapons, so no big deal. They may have changed that for 8e, though.
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>>53501792
thx
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>>53501757
Doubt any GW would boot any customer barring theft or physical violence. Even then, who said it has to be in the shop?
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>>53501576

Interesting, didn't think about that.

So it would be rather beneficial to run bigger termagant units with it.

I'll wait until its datasheet gets leaked to see if it changes my mind
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>>53501794
>not being socially intelligent enough to understand how others will see your social actions
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>>53501792

How does points cost compare?
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>>53501784
They were, but CADs don't exist anymore. Patrols are CAD-lite but Battalions are CAD-plus, they take *2 HQ* and 3 Troops, there's not a single SC kit that can meet that.
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>>53500847
Where did you get this info? Has SoB leaked?
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>>53501801
my local GW kicks people out for playing Horus Heresy (and when its full, kicks people out who aren't doing games or painting/assembly)
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>>53501819
Good question, we have them both floating around, let's try and take a look...
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>>53501792

Except if you pick Advanced Targeting System. Then it is -4 AP instead of -3AP. It is still Str 6 but well.
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>Field riptides surrounded by marker drones
>Take small arms fire on the riptide
>Shift lascannon hits to the drones
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>>53501823
This is true, totally forgot about the 2 HQ req.
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>>53501816
>Socializing with degenerates and tranny sympathizers
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>>53501845

Tau Plasma Rifle = 11pts
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>>53501857
>being in a local gamestore and not being an autist
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>>53501881
>>53501857
I can't tell who is baiting who.
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>>53501854
>Opponent targets drones with small arms fire
>kills them first
>then warms up the lascannons to take down the Riptides

What now, vagina-faced fishmangoat ?
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>>53501793
rapid fire
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>>53501872
Space Marine plasma gun is 13.

So I guess 2 more points gives you +1 strength and an overcharge mode.
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>>53501898

>He thinks the drones have to not be hiding out of line of sight to tank wounds.
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New to this game and I realize 8th is upon us but do you need drop pods for terminators to deep strike or do they just jump out the airlock?
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>>53501948
Terminators teleport.
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>>53501840
>my local GW kicks people out for playing Horus Heresy (and when its full, kicks people out who aren't doing games or painting/assembly)
>my local GW kicks people out for playing Horus Heresy
Based local GW store is based.
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>>53501946

Fair enough, though S7 isn't all that important a step up with the wound chart as it is.

Overcharge mode only really comes into it's own if you've additionally paid for someone to give you a reroll.
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>>53501982
This is true. Also the Tau platforms tend to be more mobile.

I just think it's funny that the AdMech tech is finally one-upping the Tau.
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>>53501792

It makes me wonder if they forgot to buff it if it is completely safe to fire with S7. Even then, the modern Tau don't seem to care as much about overcharging guns.
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>>53501898

Actually its hard to do as such. The controlling player now allocates wounds per his choosing. However if he allocates a bolter wound to the big guy then he must continue to put all wounds on him (in the absence of some other special rule).
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>>53501979
They don't allow GW games that they don't sell in store - and the manager already said that they won't allow people to play 7th edition
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>>53501979
>>53501840
This

Your LGS sounds awesome. fuck HH fags
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All these leaks from the rulebooks. Any chance of full book scans before the actual release?
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>>53502012
I think the Tau make up for it by being able to take support systems that let them do things like advance and fire, get an extra AP, or re-roll 1's to hit.
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>>53502017
Shake your manager's hand for me. Based manny gets shit done
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>>53501947
>Thinking that being out of sight is any kind of protection
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>>53501947
>ALL units can move and fire with heavy weapons now

That will have to be the most line of sight blocking terrain of line of sight blocking terrain that ever was.
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>>53502017

So can you play the HH board games?
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>>53501970
Given the fact that HQ characters can no longer join units do you think its safe to assume the buffs/auras from a command squad would be made into an AoE instead of the squad itself?
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>>53502016
The drones have a particular special rule that avoids this, but they're also a separate unit so it's up to the firing player whether the bolter shots are going at the Riptide or the Drones. The Tau player can only reallocate the Wounds on the Riptide to the Drones but not the other way around.
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>>53502025
>>53502044
I'm paraphrasing but the manager literally said; "Horus Heresy doesn't bring money into the store, so we keep our tables for people who are playing stuff we sell"
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>>53502016
The Drones and the Riptide are seperate units next edition.
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What did games workshop mean by this?
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>>53502060
It appears that most buffs we've seen work as an AoE, yes. Usually either 3" or 6".
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>>53502078
That there will be a battle nuns faction focus somewhere in the near future, duh.
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>>53502060

I think (and this is all purely a guess) that if a unit has a buff the buff will only apply to the unit but if it is a character it will be an aura.
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>>53502078
SoBstory Faction Focus on Wednesday or Friday.

Prepare for tears as it confirms the leaks are real.
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So this "not including wargear" bit. Does that mean that they don't come with basic weapons? So a chaos marine has to buy its bolter?
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>>53502131
It seems so but at the same time i think bolters cost like 0 points.
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>>53502131

Correct.
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>>53502131
Yes.

Real big issue, considering a bolter is 0 points.
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>>53502131
No, they come with it, but the points have to be tallied separately. You can't take a Chaos Marine with no Bolter to try and get him cheaper.

On the other hand very simple weapons tend to cost 0 points.
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>>53502131
A lot of basic infantry weapons cost 0 pts. It just means that the pt cost listed for a model is the cost for JUST the model itself, not its gear.
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>>53502131
ye but basic items tend to cost 0, its basically a balancing formality on the off chance they need to update the costs
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Riptides should have a chance to explode when they die.
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>>53501978
>Mentors
>Test shit out
>Primaris
>Autistically do one thing

No.
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>>53502173

I think its also done for consistency so that you don't have weird profiles that include basic equipment and then profiles that don't.
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>>53502173
It's not so much that they need to update the costs of the 0 point weapons as it is that those models have options to take different weapons and it gets too messy and confusing to say "here's the cost of the model but not it's wargear unless it's wargear is a bolter in which case that is included because it's free lol"

Seems a little confusing at first but people will get used to it I'm sure. Anyone who can't handle the new points system can play Power Level Mode For Dummies.
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>>53502078
>SoB will get a faction focus before AdM

01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011
>>
So, a Multi-Tracker on a suit containing only a single weapon gets to benefit from it at all times, because it is incapable of firing at multiple units?
>>
reminder that ork teleporter and force field tech will still be worse or non existant compared to imperial versions in spite of the lore
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>>53502251
looks like it but what the fuck are you doing with a single weapon system?
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>>53502273
good
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>>53502275
Stealth suit? Also did anyone else notice the <jet pack> keyword on suits? JSJ might still be on the menu, boys.
>>
>Taufag leaked the entire Tau Index to his facebook weeb buttbuddies
>That book he held in his hands had all the info for Orks AND Tyranids and literally none of it got posted

And this is why people hate Taufags. As a nidplayer if I had the book I would sure be answering questions for Orkbros.
>>
>>53502025
What's wrong with Horus Heresy?
>>
>>53502343
It's not, we've seen all the rules.
>>
>>53502346
>Imply a PC faction should lower itself to serve an NPC faction
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So now that the Tau tourney fags have all lost the will to live, where are the Eldar leaks? I want to see the WAAC players continue to evacuate the game.
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>>53502346
I wish it was an Ork player who got the book - we'd have gotten cover to cover and organized by page, hi-res and not on facebook
Ork players are the best, and I love them, I only wish I'd gone Ork too when I had the chance
>>
So I was messing around with Tau figuring out what I was going to do with them since everything got more expensive, and Broadsides are scary as fuck even at their new cost.

For 210 points:
Broadside w/ 2 High Yield Missile Pods, 2 SMS, and an Advanced Targeting System.

This Broadside is T6 with 6 wounds, has a 1+ save in cover and puts out 8 S7 -2 D3 damage shots and 8 S5 -1 1 damage shots a turn. Stick 2 shield drones with it.

Without any drones, on average it takes Space Marine firing 9 lascannons to kills a single one of these broadsides. Adding a single shield drone (8 points) requires another 4.5 lascannons to be fired at them.

While I'll miss having a ton of suits on the field (I might have preferred nerfs over point increases) this should still be fun.
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>>53502346
The real question is, why aren't there any nidfags or orkfags with access to the book & sharing them?
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>>53502366
its basically 90% FW, and HH players are leeches on any FLGS
>>
What does the Homing Beacon do?
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>>53502421
no the real question is how do I get an index ahead of street-date
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At first glance I though Abby Armless was kinda trash, but upon closed inspection he seems quite the powerhouse :

>WS 2+, seven wounds and six attacks
>A combi-bolter with -1 AP
>Can always do 6 attacks with x2 Str -3 AP and D3 damage
>Can do anywhere from 2 to 6 extra attacks with +1 Str -3 AP and D3 damage
>Damage he suffers is halved (only takes 3 damage if you rolled a six with your lascannon ... holy shit)
>12'' zone around him that allows friendly CSM to ignore morale entirely (who knew Abbadon had Synapse capabilities)

Not too bad. Suffering a mortal wound sucks, but at least he can still attack normally. On the other end of the possibilities he does a total of twelve close combat attacks.
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>>53502438
Because they have to buy all their shit from ForgeWorld and nothing out of the actual store they go to?
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>>53498966
there was one for SM / BA which i'm pretty sure you can use in the meantime, it should be pretty similar
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>>53502369
So what does the <jet pack> do?
>>
Is it me or are the main two gun of the Stormsurge even more scary now?
>>
>>53502442
Good question. Might ignore the restriction on coming in more than 9" away from an enemy as long as you're within x" of a friendly with a beacon?
>>
>>53502467
right - it's like going to starbucks and taking your own coffeemaker
>>
>>53502495
First of all it doesn't have brackets, those are only for keywords that get filled in.

Secondly most keywords don't innately have any special rules tied to them, they're just there to trigger off of other special rules that reference them.
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>>53502459
His points are so retardedly low
>>
Okay lads having a debate with a buddy:

Can you FNP against mortal wounds?
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>>53502495
Keywords mostly don't DO anything. They're simply ways to organize things. Like <jet pack> units take up 3 slots in a Manta's transport capacity. Or <faction> and <subfaction> only being there to set who can go in what lists and benefit from which buffs. There only seems to be a few that do anything innately.
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>>53502384

WAAC players aren't going to evacuate the game, they're just going to switch to the next good faction.
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>>53502534
Yes. It's been explicitly stated by GW that this is the case.
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>>53502534
If the rule in question says something like "after this model lost a wound etc" then yes.
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>>53502534
Yes, because the nu-FNP is not a save.
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>>53502500
>>53502442
You place down a marker that allows one of your deepstriking units to come down within 6" of it, regardless of an enemy is near by. But the marker is destroyed if an enemy moves within 9" of it.

So basically you move into <9" with the stealth squad, place the marked, and then drop in the other unit so that they can charge/flame/ or whatever. The next turn, when the enemy moves, the beacon is destroyed.
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>>53502521
I gotcha. Thanks for taking the time to explain to a new guy to the hobby.
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>>53502544
Not if the next good meta faction is a horde army requiring them to invest in tons of little dudes and paint them all up, which is looking like it's going to be the case.
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>>53502521
A bit more like bringing in a cup of coffee from the Starbucks a few blocks because there's tastes better, but you like this store more for working on your laptop
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>>53502534

Depends on the rule since there is no FNP, for things like disgustingly resilient, yes you can.
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>>53502534
>>
>>53502585
they'll just pay someone to paint them
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>>53502585

That's what they do. They'll raid eBay and discount sellers for the models they need and then either pay to have them painted (if forced to have painted models) or leave them as a gray legion because it doesn't matter.

Or do you think WAACfags are poor?
>>
>>53502547
>>53502556
>>53502573
FNP was never a save, and I was on the side of the yes. Thanks for clarification. Trying to figure out if it would be possible to deal with Roboute Cuteboy in a way that isn't just fucking ignoring him.
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>>53502500
>>53502442
You place the beacon within 1'' of the unit activating it in your movement phase. At the end of your movement phase if there is active beacons you can place unit with <sept> that is in manta (suit deep strike) within 6'' of it. The beacon is then removed. Beacon also dies if enemy unit comes within 9'' of it.
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>>53502442
>>53502500
From what I can read from the Stealth suit entry, you put it down within 2" of a stealth suit in the movement phase. Then, a unit that could Manta drop (battle suit deep strike) can be set up within 6" when they come in. But, if an enemy model comes within 9" of it it gets blown up. Also its only good for one deep strike.

I think it does let you skirt the 9" restriction, but that's mainly only useful for a fusion team. Also, I may be missing some restrictions on when you can place it. if you could only set it down during say, shooting, then that's an extra turn you have to wait while your opponent might sabotage it
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>>53502651

In other words, it's extremely situational?
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>>53502384
>mfw WAAC players move on to your army and ruin it too for everyone
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>>53502651
Post above you clarified.

That's neat, I like it.
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>>53502630
Shoot him with things untill he dies, if he gets back up repeat mentioned tactic.
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>>53502497

surge looks like meanest tau bot
riptides ion accel looks like hot garbage now lel
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>>53502676
They also apparently cost 0 points, and since Reserve Rolls aren't a thing I can see it working pretty consistently.

Basically if you're running a flamer/fusion Crisis Team, it's useful.
>>
Revised Tau Battalion 750pt, for casual play:
-Commander w/3xMP+EWO
-Ethereal
-5x Rifle FW
-5x Rifle FW
-5x Carbine FW
-2x Crisis with 2x Plasma+MT
-5x PF w/Ion Rifle and Pulse-Accelerator Drone
-5x Shield Drones
-Broadside w/Heavy Rail Rifle, 2x SMS and ATS

Comments or suggestions?
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>>53502534
Stim injector can ignore it. It states it specifically though.
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>>53502690
He can't be targeted unless he's the closest unit.
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>>53502676
Basically what >>53502699 said. Good for specific crisis teams. Not much else
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>>53499019
Call me daddy
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Any word on flamers or meltas for Primaris? I have a desperate need to burn shit.
>>
>Astartes grenade launcher krak grenade does D3 damage

I need to buy more Scout Bikers.
>>
>>53502690
It's going to take a lot of shooting to bring him down, and like
>>53502719
said, it's going to take impossible maneuvering to get him into the right position to get shooting at him. Even if that were the case, would it really be worth all the shots you're throwing his way to crack a 2+ 3++ w9 unit with a solid chance that he'll just wake up the next turn?
>>
>>53502630
It wasn't a save, except when it sometimes was,
anything that cared about unsaved wounds was blocked by FNP.
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>>53502719
Damn forgot about that ...

In that case, if you have no melee unit that can handle him you're fucked.

>>53502733
They're too autistic for heat-based weaponry.
>>
Did anyone notice that an Ethereal on a Hover drone can not only keep up with battlesuits, but his Storm of Fire buff can actually benefit them as well?
>>
>>53502763
Whenever I read FNP in the core rules there was always a little notation in brackets
>(this is not a saving throw)
or something to that effect.
>>
>>53502722
>>53502699
Homing beacon is 20p. It seems that only stealth suits can take it now.
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>>53502727
FULGRIM
NO
>>
Just realized I can't deep strike heavy flamers effectively anymore. Now I have to get my terminators to waddle over to whatever they wanted to kill.
>>
>>53502810
If your suits were stationary.
>>
>>53502851
Deep Striking template weapons was always complete horseshit. Good riddance to that.
>>
In the time it took me to catch up on the old thread, the new one was already on page 10
>>
>>53502677

Be prepared - this is going to happen soon.
>>
>>53502851
Yeah too bad heavy flamers actualy are Heavy weapons now. Otherwise you would have been able to Advance and still roast.
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>>53502846
DADDY
YES
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>>53502767
>They're too autistic for heat-based weaponry.

you do realize that primaris marines are their own army and are going to have access to everything in the form of brand new models for all their hearts desires right?

better in every way and the replacement consolidation for the 15 different chapters that were taking up too much room on store shelves.

it might hurt now but in the long run it will be better for all the lesser chapters to go extinct.

t.newchadmarineplayer
>>
>>53502896
No, you can't do that either, since Advancing is done in the Movement phase now, not the Shooting phase.
>>
>>53502767
>Don't use heat based weapons
>The Salamanders have been explicitly shown as accepting Primais into their ranks
I feel like watching the social interaction between a bunch of pyromaniacs and their new brothers in arms who are too autistic to understand the joy of setting things/enemies on fire would be hilarious.
>>
>>53502677
>Orks will never be WAAC outside of old edition bikespam
Feels good
>>
>>53502884

It wasn't when you DS'd D-Scythes with a WWP.
>>
>>53502927
That was the most horseshit of all of them what the fuck are you talking about
>>
>>53502917
Chads are hot enough and don't have to overcompensate with excess bling. Keep it real nigga.
>>
>>53502884
>complaining about shooty terminators
Fuck off they've been mediocre at best this whole edition. If you lost to heavy flamer terminators you're just a shit player.
>>
>>53502226
They're getting one before crons too :(
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Soon
>>
>>53502954
>he doesn't know about the WAAC Salamander template spam drop pod lists
>>
>>53502872
Yeah, but if you need them on the move, I think he could also use the wind one to make their advances more reliable while they can still fire with assault weapons. Take the support system to ignore the vs penalty and they'd be zooming around nicely.

The idea of an Ethereal leading a crisis bodyguard team into the fray sounds awesome
>>
>>53502909
I WILL TEAR OUT YOUR EYEBALLS YOU LADYBOY LOVING FRUIT
>>
>>53502978
Pods are a whole different matter I am literally just talking about deep striking terminators.
>>
>>53503006
Bend over, bitch~<3
>>
>>53503020
Deep Striking template weapons is deep striking template weapons you dumbass, it doesn't matter. If they removed them from one thing they needed to remove them from everything.
>>
>>53503045
Teleport beacons? Those probably let you deepstrike right in their faces.
>>
>>53502912
Everything we've seen about numarine rules makes then worse than old marines, so whatever my dude. They only seem viable if you're using the babies-first-wargaming Powerlevel system ... which might be the entire point of them : lure immature boys with big burly men in space armour, then have them switch to a real army once they join in on Matched Play.

It's gonna take being entirely re-written before they become somewhat decent to field in matched.
>>
>>53503071
Yeah but those take effort and tactics to set up.
>>
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>>53502727
Hi Daddy! Hope we make you proud!
>>
alright im not sure whether to ask 40kg or wip but i need to know whether or not the snapfit marines are likely to allow any kind of customization, because im building a primaris army out of the minis in the starter pack and i want to know whether or not im going to be able to choose to have the helmet on all of my marines, i really hate helmetless marines
>>
>>53503045
Except there's no USRs anymore so they could have left it on whatever units they wanted.
>>
>>53503078
This. Numarines are kind of shit in crunch.
>>
>>53503095
Unlikely, that is without using a hobby knife
>>
>>53503095
Snapft models never had any customization. Outside of converting them with bits from elsewhere.
>>
>>53503095
They're not snapfit, they're mono-pose. A recent German unboxing indicated that a few primarines won't get to wear their helmets. Basically like the pictures show.
>>
>>53503098
No because then you either:
- Let those units Deep Strike closer, which makes it easier for them to charge.
OR
- Increase the range of flamers, which lets every deep striking unit shoot them after coming down.
>>
Is there a downside to Open-Topped vehicles now? Or did i miss something
>>
>>53503095
GW is moving to basically no customization possible on any models.
>>
>>53503136
I think they just get less Toughness baked into the statline.
>>
>>53503095
They're plastic so conversion shouldn't be a big issue.
>>
>>53503117
>>53503120
Does that mean im going to have to probably cut the helmet off the suits of the numarines so that i can replace the head with it?
>>
>>53503138
I'd say wait til we see the new multi-pose kits.
>>
>>53503136
Not that we've seen yet.
>>
>>53503152
No, you can use spare marine helmets from existing kits. If you don't have any yourself just ask around, should not be that hard to find somebody that has a few spare marine helmets.
>>
>>53503094
I really really like this image desu
>>
>>53503175
Yeah, MKIV Marine heads should do fine.
>>
>>53503136
Yes. The downside is you bought them as assault vehicles but now every vehicle can do that. So my raiders are basically pointless compared to other transports now.

My fault for not choosing the eldar that GW wanted me to choose.
>>
>>53502585

Are you aware that daemon factories were a meta list you fucking retard?
>>
>>53503258
Raiders are most likely going to be stupid fast though. And having a 5+ invulnerable is also rather nice, considering most anti-tank weapons reduce vehicles with a 3+ save to 6+ save.
>>
>>53503258

You can shoot out of them though which is a big plus for raiders. They're better gun boats now.
>>
>>53503258
But now our Raiders will probably get a point adjustment to put them in line. Rhinos are ~70 points each now.

Additionally once we see how firing out of a transport works, I'm sure it'll matter.
>>
Ork leaks when?
>>
After a look at the Tau leaks, has anyone figured out what the Supremacy Railgun belongs to? I haven't been able to find it in a unit entry.
>>
New thread when?
>>
>>53503305
Tidewall Rampart/Gunrig. It's the railgun mounted at the top.
>>
>>53503305
Tidewall Gunrig
>>
>>53503305
The Tidewall Gunrig.
>>
>>53498742
Can someone fucking tell me if Sanguinius is coming back? Jesus Christ I need to know.
The Lord of Angels will fly again!
>>
>>53503391
He's dead lad
>>
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Any news on slaanesh?

Got my hands on an aspiring champion that I'd like to make EC/slaaneshi. I've already given him a sword and dagger. How should I paint him, pink or purple?
>>
>>53503391

He ded son.
>>
>>53503391
Russ is more likely than anyone else.

Or the Lion I guess
>>
>>53503391
He's coming back with Dorn to counter Alpharius/Omegon and Kurze
>>
>>53503391
See
>>53499019
You might be experiencing a case of the black rage. Report to your nearest chaplin
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>>53503391
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>53503417
Pink! Bright as you can get.
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>>53503409
>>53503419
>>53503428
>>53503435
>>53503444
>>53503460

>Implying he hasn't been being tortured in the warp for the past 10,000 years
>Implying the Black Rage wasnt visions he was trying to send his children
>Implying that "long daemon name" wont reveal this to the Angels at the moment of their defeat
>trapcard.exe
>With the last of his strength to send his children into a full Black Rage
>>
New Thread? New Thread:
>>53503481
>>
YOU ARE CALLED TO WAR
>>53503487
>>53503487
>>53503487
>>53503487
>>
>>53503417
See
>>53503419
>>53503409
>>
>>53502366
He's a poorfag who can't afford to play, so he hates those people who can
>>
>>53503501
>>53503502
OH NO NOT AGAIN
>>
>>53503558
I deleted the one I made. Everyone move to >>53503501
>>
>>53500615
Just PfP rules and the Faction Focus. I still don't like the ramping bonuses concept for a fragile alpha strike army. But the bonuses look pretty good, and at least you get the save turn one. I may end up running Ynnari If I prefer their army rules.
>>
>>53503078
>>53503116
nah just wait till they get fleshed out with all the toys in the subsequent releases that come inevitably with the launch of the new line.

super space marine terminators and vehicles are going to blow away their lesser counterparts.
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