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/hwg/ - Historical Wargames General

Old Corporal John Edition

Previous thread: >>53305290

Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/

Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
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>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warhammer Historical
https://mega.nz/#F!LxkElYYY!FJB5miNmlWZKMj2VfSYdxg
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf

Desired scans :
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Modern Spearhead
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23rd May in military history:

844 – Battle of Clavijo: The Apostle Saint James the Greater is said to have miraculously appeared to a force of outnumbered Asturians and aided them against the forces of the Emir of Cordoba.
1430 – Joan of Arc is captured by the Burgundians while leading an army to raise the Siege of Compiègne.
1568 – Dutch rebels led by Louis of Nassau, defeat Jean de Ligne, Duke of Arenberg, and his loyalist troops in the Battle of Heiligerlee, opening the Eighty Years' War.
1701 – After being convicted of piracy and of murdering William Moore, Captain William Kidd is hanged in London.
1706 – John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, defeats a French army under Marshal François de Neufville, duc de Villeroy in the Battle of Ramillies.
1793 – Battle of Famars during the Flanders Campaign of the War of the First Coalition.
1846 – Mexican–American War: President Mariano Paredes of Mexico unofficially declares war on the United States.
1900 – American Civil War: Sergeant William Harvey Carney is awarded the Medal of Honor for his heroism in the Assault on the Battery Wagner in 1863.
1915 – World War I: Italy joins the Allies, fulfilling its part of the Treaty of London.
1934 – Infamous American bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde are ambushed by police and killed in Bienville Parish, Louisiana.
1934 – The Auto-Lite strike culminates in the "Battle of Toledo", a five-day melée between 1,300 troops of the Ohio National Guard and 6,000 picketers.
1939 – The U.S. Navy submarine USS Squalus sinks off the coast of New Hampshire during a test dive, causing the death of 24 sailors and two civilian technicians.
1945 – World War II: Heinrich Himmler commits suicide while in Allied custody.
1945 – World War II: The Flensburg Government is dissolved when its members are captured and arrested by British forces.
1998 – The Good Friday Agreement is accepted in a referendum in Northern Ireland.
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It is 311 years since the Battle of Ramillies was fought during the War of the Spanish Succession. For the Grand Alliance – Austria, England, and the Dutch Republic – the battle had followed an indecisive campaign against the Bourbon armies of King Louis XIV of France in 1705. Although the Allies had captured Barcelona that year, they had been forced to abandon their campaign on the Moselle, had stalled in the Spanish Netherlands and suffered defeat in northern Italy. Yet despite his opponents' setbacks Louis XIV was desirous of peace – but he wanted it on reasonable terms. For this end and in order to maintain their momentum, the French and their allies took the offensive in 1706.

The campaign began well for Louis XIV's generals: in Italy Marshal Vendôme had defeated the Austrians at the Battle of Calcinato in April, while in Alsace Marshal Villars had forced the Margrave of Baden back across the Rhine. Encouraged by these early gains Louis XIV urged Marshal Villeroi to go over to the offensive in the Spanish Netherlands and, with victory, gain a 'fair' peace. Accordingly, the French Marshal set off from Leuven at the head of 60,000 men and marched towards Tienen, as if to threaten Zoutleeuw. Also determined to fight a major engagement, the Duke of Marlborough, commander-in-chief of Anglo-Dutch forces, assembled his army – some 62,000 men – near Maastricht, and marched past Zoutleeuw. With both sides seeking battle, they soon encountered each other on the dry ground between the Mehaigne and Petite Gheete rivers, close to the small village of Ramillies.

Villeroi assembled his forces in a concave formation, with the right and left flanks further forward than the centre. Both French flanks used rivers and marshes to their advantage, preventing the Allies from outflanking them.
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>>53395431
Just after 1pm, Marlborough began the attack. He advanced his troops strongly toward both the left and right flanks of his enemy, pushing the French back on the left but making less progress on the right, where his forces had to advance across marshy ground. Still, this advance on the right was strong enough for Villeroi to divert troops there from the centre.

Villeroi’s position in the centre appeared strong. His troops were lined up along a ridge. Their concave formation meant that any Allied advance in the centre would be bombarded with fire from multiple directions and risk being surrounded. But this hid two weaknesses which would prove fatal in combination: Firstly, the French were thinly spread to cover their extended position along the ridge and both flanks; and secondly, they could not easily move troops from one flank to the other, as this would involve manoeuvring them around the outside of the army’s curve. As a result, the French line was weak in many places, and could not easily be reinforced if it began to collapse. The Allies, on the other hand, could easily move troops from one flank to the other of their convex formation. Theirs was the strong centre.

From the middle of the afternoon, fierce fighting developing on the Marlborough’s left. French cavalry was committed there and was gaining an advantage. Marlborough was able to divert troops from his opposite flank, and together with Danish troops on the left they defeated the French cavalry. The French flank was pushed back at a right angle to the rest of the army.

Now came Marlborough’s master stroke. Many of his troops on the right were hidden from French view behind a ridge. Leaving their banners in place to create the illusion that they were still there, he marched half these troops across the back of his own army, hidden from enemy view. Thousands of men snuck from the right to the centre, where they faced Ramillies itself, the hinge point of the folded French line.
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>>53395453
Marlborough began a devastating bombardment against the defences of Ramillies, followed by an advance by his superior numbers in the centre. Villeroi could not divert troops to defend the position – his right flank had collapsed while his left was still holding off the imagined threat from the banners of the British right. The fighting for Ramillies was fierce; Marlborough committed his men to the risk of a full-on assault. The risk paid off. By 7pm, the Allies were storming Ramillies, and Villeroi himself came close to being captured as his army was swept away.

Villeroi made one last attempt to halt Marlborough, forming a second line behind his original positions. But the French army had been shattered, its morale and formations left in ruins. Allied cavalry swept away this attempt at a last stand, pursuing the French into the night.

By dawn on 24 May, Villeroi had lost a huge portion of his army, leaving the field in Allied hands. He left behind 13,000 casualties and 6,000 men taken captive. The Allies, by contrast, lost just over 1,000 men dead and 2,600 wounded. Marlborough’s army was still intact. Ramillies was a huge strategic as well as a tactical success. With Marlborough now largely unopposed, the Spanish Netherlands lay open to him. Ath, Louvain, Brussels, Antwerp, Ghent, Bruges, Ostend and Menin all surrendered to the Allies.

Ramillies represents the end of the pike-and-shot era and the dawn of a whole new style of warfare. The colorful armies, relatively even odds and the presence of Marlborough all make for a promising wargame.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/r6568ckawi0madi/Osprey+-+CAM+275+-+Ramillies+1706.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/m7lixcvjohrpbxr/Osprey+-+MAA+097+-+Marlborough%27s+Army+1702-11.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1u3u9u2gj6jcnmt/Osprey+-+MAA+203+-+Louis+XIV%27s+Army.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/9tkc3bk8c6t99l9/Osprey+-+MAA+267+-+The+British+Army+1660-1704.pdf
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>>53395415
>>53395431
>>53395453
>>53395485
Thanks!
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What would /hwg/ think is the latest era for 'true' naval wargaming? (that is, before airpower becomes dominant)
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>>53398071
ww1
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>>53398071
I personally think WW2. Airpower already becomes somewhat dominant there, but this is also the age where aircraft carriers are king (as opposed to the modern day where they're just big targets). If that's not what you're looking for then I'm with the guy above me: WW1.
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>>53398071
Pre-WW1 Ironclads.
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>>53398071
If you want the absolute latest then yeah WWI, however I think the real 'last hurrah' of big, ship-to-ship combat was probably around the Russo-Japanese War.
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Is there a company that sells generic decals one could use on medieval miniatures?
Figures commonly used in heraldry etc?
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>>53399221
Little Big Men have some stuff like that, variety of scales too.
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>>53399290
While they look really nice, I was hoping to find something a slightly different.
Just the heraldic figures instead of the whole shield. Would make them somewhat more versatile.
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>wargames factory numidians
Why did they think those necks were a good idea?
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Is the anon that made this campaign still around. Give us an update and link to rules you were using.
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>>53398071
There's still quite a few surface only actions in WWII, and quite a few in which planes were present but not extremely consequential, particularly when it comes to night actions.
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I checked the OP and couldn't find it.

I'm looking for the Dux Britanniarum suppliment book. Its called "The Raiders for Dux Britanniarum" is it in the OP and I've just missed it or does the OP not have it?
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ZSU-23-4
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>>53398071
The period covered by Rule the Waves is pretty much it for me, the evolution of the Dreadnought and a whole bunch of fun ship designs.

WW2 is more... aeronaval wargaming. Which is certainly a type of naval wargaming, and great, but planes are a total game-changer and you can't easily overlook them.
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Oh yeah, since the guy hasn't posted it yet: http://www.wargamevault.com/product/212538/Hind--Seek-SovietAfghan-War

Hind & Seek is out. Give him money. He deserves it. He did say something about gifting it to /hwg/ at Christmas, so if you don't want to pay for it then you have over six months to build your 3mm, 6mm or (if you're mad) 28mm soviets, afghans, tanks, and hinds.
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>there are no good movies about the war in North Africa
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>>53404258
Depends how you want to look at it. There are classics like Ice Cold In Alex and The Hill (1965), and it pops up in The Big Red One and The Young Lions. But no, there are no Saving Private Ryan/Stalingrad-type extravaganzas with big battle scenes. Any such movie would be far too expensive to make considering the minimal box office it would draw.

By the same token there's no good movie about the Italian campaign, beyond passing references in a few movies; and only a couple about the war in the Balkans. I'd love a good Crete 1941 movie but I know that's never happening.
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>>53404258
Sahara maybe?
Not excellent when it comes to historical accuracy, but other than that, good movie.
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>>53401165
I'm still here. Here's the map with start zones for the countries in our campaign.

And here's the rules, including a new Weather system I made up.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i8uFRqfB0zzFi993U7Piu_ufbXggAq3hmZHrWPVKsd8/edit?usp=sharing
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>>53405030
For an update on how things are going: I've gotten everyone onto the Facebook group so we can actually coordinate, we've picked Tuesdays for our game night and hung a big ol printout of this map on the wall. I bought packs of round and flag-shaped pins so we can get the whole generals in the war room feel. We should actually start next week.

Britain and Germany have made an overt alliance against the Soviets, but Germany tells me he's expecting the Brits to betray him at any time. The Brits say they're most worried about the Americans. As Finland, I want to secure all of Scandinavia, but have to divide my forces between German and Soviet threats. Should be fun to see how it plays out.
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>>53404341
Ice Cold in Alex is the best Carlsberg ad I've ever seen.
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>>53399766
What about the knight kits in the 'multi fit' section?

Also the whole shield ones could still be useful, you could just use a craft knife to cut out the particular device you want. The 1st Corps and Kingmaker transfers they have could be mixed and matched in interesting ways.
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>>53404258
Patton is partially in the desert.

The following also fit the bill:
Sahara, The Desert Fox; The Storm of Rommel, Play Dirty, Five Graves to cairo, Raid on Rommel, The Desert Rats, The Bitter Victory, Tobruk, The Battle of El Alamein, Taki for Tobruk, The Way Ahead, Commandos, The Red Beret, A Man Called Sarge, Hotel Sahara, Days of Glory, the Star of Africa, Paratroop Command
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>>53405059
Sounds good anon. Thanks for the update and good luck. Keep us posted on the progress.
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>>53406727
I didn't even see those.
Yeah, not bad.

>Also the whole shield ones could still be useful, you could just use a craft knife to cut out the particular device you want. The 1st Corps and Kingmaker transfers they have could be mixed and matched in interesting ways.
I have a box of Fireforge Foot Sergeants. I was wondering if the medieval transfers might fit on those
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>>53407831
The whole shield might not be exactly the right shape/size but like I said you could just cut out the crest bit and stick that on your models.
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>>53407857
After looking at the minis in the store again I just realized that they apparently do have the LBM transfers.
They just painted around the edges where the transfer ended apparently.

Thanks for the help.
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>>53404341
The book used Rheingold but they chose not to use that for the film.
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>>53404341
I don't even drink beer and I'm slightly trigger by how the guy pours the beer. Holy shit.
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Upcoming Osprey titles. There's also a book on Trieste 1945 in their General Military series that I like the look of too, always been fascinated by that crisis. Shahrazad is a board game, and a very pretty one at that: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/186767/shahrazad
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>>53409580
>always been fascinated by that crisis

What the fuck for?

The entire Yugo Army would've been BTFO by the Allies if they tried anything - and Tito knew it.

OTOH, the Soviets would've 'helped' them - and then the Allies would've been BTFO - and they knew it.
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>>53409677
>What the fuck for?
Because the New Zealand Division was the main Allied unit involved and they're a pet subject of mine.
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>>53409714

>tfw charging mobs of Yugopoors machinegunned by a handful of angry dug-in Kiwis

I see your point, tbqh fyi
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>>53409580
>Shahrazad is a board game, and a very pretty one at that: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/186767/shahrazad
Ooh, that is damn pretty. And solitaire (or two player). Shame it's not a full tarot deck though, even though the game only uses some of the cards it would be nice to have that sweet art turned into a full set.
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>>53409580
>still no book on the successors

NO GUIS WE NEED MORE BOOKS ABOUT ROME!!1!

Soon we'll have a book about their fucking caligae alone.
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>>53404341
>absolutely sunk it
lad
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>>53409906
At least the Romans were around for hundreds of years with a whole bunch of different technologies, military tactics & organisations.

I'd rather have more books about Rome than SECRETS OF THE SS VOLUME 73: HOW DID SS TANKERS SIT IN THEIR SEATS, DID THEY LIKE SLUMP OR SIT UP STRAIGHT, AND HOW DID THIS AFFECT THEIR REACTION TIME WHEN A DEADLY BABUSHKA ARMED WITH A BASKET FULL OF BLANKETS WAS SPOTTED
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>>53410031
>SECRETS OF THE SS VOLUME 73: HOW DID SS TANKERS SIT IN THEIR SEATS, DID THEY LIKE SLUMP OR SIT UP STRAIGHT, AND HOW DID THIS AFFECT THEIR REACTION TIME WHEN A DEADLY BABUSHKA ARMED WITH A BASKET FULL OF BLANKETS WAS SPOTTED
I chuckled
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>>53410031
Being a non-WWII historical gamer is suffering
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>>53405030
Christ people, I trust you guys with the ability to comment for a few hours and look what it gets me. I have to remember that /tg/ isn't really any different from the rest of 4chan
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>>53409580
>Longbowman versus Crossbowman
Aw fuck yeah.
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Well, gotta finish basing, but that's two T-55s for the NVA - the Vietnamese kind. One die-cast repainted, one Trumpeter model.
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>>53410562
Odds on the book being just some yewaboo furiously masturbaiting over longbows?
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>>53411403
>yewaboos
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>>53411403
>implying a Welsh longbow isn't made of a million strips of layered yew producing the finest ranged weapons known to mankind
>implying a longbowman couldn't blow a knight in full-plate to bits with a single horizontal twang
Deal with it froggo
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>>53411627
GLWRIWS CYMRU YWEN, FOLDED OVER ONE MILIWN TIMES!
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>>53411403
It's just going to be more wood on the fire.
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>>53411178
they look great
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Crosspost from the painting thread - put together one of the Warlord Ruined Farmhouse kits. Turns out the sand outside my house is good for basing material.
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>>53413449
I hope you baked it first.
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>>53416106
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>>53413623
What would it mean if he didn't?
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How do you guys do good looking bases? Mine look like fucking garbage.
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>>53416746
I think you'd benefit from putting a layer of sand on first, painting that, then adding the grass.
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>>53416746
Less vivid colours.

Also, first I put on some decor sand, various sizes, then paint it with some darker khaki, drybrush with sand color, put on patches of static grass with superglue, then some tufts.

You use too much static grass IMHO.
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>>53416791
I have a rather thick layer of GW stirland mud texture on all my guys but the grass just comes out horrid. Everything seems too big in comparison or unnatural. It'd be really easy to create a muddy field but forests and grass are so hard for me. How do you do yours?
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>>53416514
It's good practice to cook sand that's been gathered from outside because things live in it, shit in it, die in it, lay eggs in it and so on.
Baking works to sterilise it.
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>>53416835
I do sand -> dark brown paint -> brown wash -> bone drybrush -> Stick on small clumps of static grass

It's basically the same as how GW were doing their bases about 10-15 years ago.
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>>53416899
Aye, but does it make sense for Finnish soldiers to have sandy bases in the woods?
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>>53417006
It doesn't look like sand, it looks like dirt once painted.
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>>53416836
>lay eggs in it
>playing a nice game when your new terrain-piece states vibrating
>suddenly a thousand baby spiders burst out of it
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>>53417120
If we were talking 40K then it'd be time to send in Ciaphas Cain. But it doesn't even have to be baby 'nids, just fucking mold spores and bad storage to ruin all your stuff.
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>>53417006
Funny, I'm a Finnish player too. I do all my Finnish stuff and most of my terrain in snow, pic related. Elmer's Glue and baking soda sealed with matte clear spraypaint. It's cheap and looks good, but even with the sealant it does shed baking soda. Be prepared for that.

>>53417120
>justanotherbughunt.jpg
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>>53417205
>>53417079
Aye, but how does one make forest bases?
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>>53417233
Basically the same with some leaf scatter and stuff added.
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>>53417257
Well time to buy leaf scatter unless I just go the classic route of painting sand green.
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>>53417233
They sell flock that looks like grass and moss. Do the dirt thing first, then add grass on top of it. Don't try to put trees on your bases, it only ends badly.

Related question: Does anyone know of a better way to do wheat fields in 28mm than in the pic?
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>>53417304
Doormats
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>>53417318
...i never would've thought of that but I love it.
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>>53417332
it's the standard, they're cheap and can be cut up into whatever shapes are wanted. You can also get the shitty ribbed carpet tiles to represent ploughed fields.
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>>53417304
Do you have any recommendations for flock grass/moss?
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>>53417381
Nope, I've only done snow and dirt so far.

One tip: When you get to the point of wanting to make trees, make them a defined "area" of cover with a base, then make the trees separate so you can move them around. Makes them so much easier to use.
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>>53417205
I've used Aleene's craft glue to do Khador models. I've heard that elmers yellows as it ages, but that might not be the worst thing if you don't mind dirty looking snow. Fig on the right was Elmers, fig on left Aleene's. The Aleene's also makes the snow sit a bit smoother and have a wet look to it.
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/hwg/ do you have go-to distributor for rules and minis on smaller-scale historicals? I'd like to take a crack at 6mm during pike and shotte or age of muskets.
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>>53417773
Microworldgames has 6mm Landsknecht, but I can't think of any other suitable minis. As for rules, just take your preferred 28mm ruleset and change all inches to cm to easily scale it down.
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>>53417773
https://www.baccus6mm.com/Home/

and >>53417846
You can easily convert the Black Powder rules. I think there's even an explanation about that in the actual BP rulebook itself.
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>>53411178
They really look like they've been driving through the Vietnamese mud
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>>53417332
MEL THE TERRAIN TUTOR (ugh) has some videos on them, including tips on doing the edges and making them look better than just random squares of doormat.
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>>53416746
Sand is needed as the base as mentioned if a few other comments. I also think you need to consider the fact that you are making the front of the base special in some way and it shouldn't be. After all it is the model you want to focus on. You don't have to put some special terrain feature in the front arch of every base.
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>>53421959
Sand is not really needed. Texture paint like he used it can work too. It just shouldn't be covered entirely in grass.
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In case someone out there is interested and isn't aware --

Muskets and Tomahawks is not going to be reprinted and North Star is selling out the last of their stock. They're also selling a card-less version of the rules for 10GBP.
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>>53423570
Are the cards required to play the game?
Could they be printed?
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>>53423632
From what I know, they are required, but North Star says that you can make your own from the book.
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>>53421959
>>53422263
Aye, it's supposed to be "summer undergrowth" but it was too big. I'll keeo your suggestions in mind.
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>>53423632
Took a look at my scanned copy.

The cards can be made, there's a page telling you what you'll need - but there's nothing to print.

You'll have to make them from scratch going by the book's guidelines.

Still, I couldn't pass it up at 10GBP. God knows I need another system/time period like a hole in the head.
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Anyone know where there is a download of this book? http://www.warlordgames.com/spotlight-german-army-grenadier-1944-45-book/ Trying to get all my research ducks lined in a row before I start building and painting
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>>53424680
did you forget to post a link or is it in the OP?
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>>53425006
I think it's in the OP. If it's not, holler and I'll post a link.
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>>53425027
>>53425006
Muskets & Tomahawks is in the Horse&Musket/Games folder.
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>>53424820
i haven't found anything yet, but it isn't expensive on ebay either.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Landser-Books-Stephen-Andrew-German-Army-Grenadier-1944-45-/192027345928?hash=item2cb5b8c408:g:YjQAAOSwImRYKg0L
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Apologies if this is a question that gets asked a lot, but my friend and I have been thinking about getting into wargaming (preferably of a historical setting) and were specifically thinking about something at the squad/tactical level. What games at that scale would be a good starting point for wargaming as a whole?
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>>53425963
Do you have a time period that you're interested in?
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>>53426013
We're not too picky about it, but we've mainly been thinking WW2 or later.
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>>53426048
Okay, my other question: when you say squad level - do you just want to put 10 models on the board and they all act independently?
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>>53426084
I meant I was mainly looking at Advanced Squad Leader and was wondering if that would be a decent starting point or if there are any games on that scale that work better for beginners.
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>>53426124
Well you might as well jump in boots 'n' all if you want to do ASL, anon. You could try starting with Squad Leader itself because ASL would be a lot for a beginner, but these days it's much more user-friendly in design, and there are lots of Youtube tutorials and so forth. If you want to do squad-level WW2 action in hex & chit then it is the best thing out there.
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>>53423774
I'd start by making it look less like grass and more like a forest floor (pic related). Try drybrushing the grass with more muted and darker greens and adding some fallen debris (leaves, dead branches).
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>>53425053
>>53425027

Could you please re-upload it.
I downloaded the file from the OP several times now and it always tells me that there is an error with the file and i can't open it.
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>>53404258
Casablanca
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>>53426521
Have a Mega link
https://mega.nz/#!7oFkjYYC!eM6ZCI3Yk50RgUpUhUFse69VROsnqIZAKzh0DYkeL-s
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>>53426582
>>53404258
You know, I'd love to see a piece done on Mers el Kebir, particularly one that humanizes both sides and looks at each of their concerns. Something more than Virtuous Britons BTFO cowardly Vichy Frenchmen. Was something I really appreciated about Tora! Tora! Tora! and Longest Day.

Also the music. Try to not get this shit stuck in your head.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0PH_p70ARg
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>>53426619
Thank you!
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>>53426619
I appreciate that too! I had been wanting to look this over for a while now, after woodland Indians anon(s?) kept showing us pics of models.
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Wargamer put up a review of Perry's travel battle

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/review-travel-battle/

A few things to note:

> They don't discuss the actual rules, like, at all.
> The author makes a big fuss over the 8mm scale, apparently not having read the Perry's posts explaining why they picked that scale
> The author adorably thinks 6mm is 'gaming in braille' 3mm stronk
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>>53428155
That was a really shitty review. Might as well have read the back of the box blurb, would have been just as useful and taking fewer words to convey the same information.
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>>53426124
start with one of the ASL starter kits. easiest way to get into it really. we have a couple up in the ASL folder in the OP
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>>53428155
>> The author adorably thinks 6mm is 'gaming in braille'
>6mm is my main scale
>people tell me "I'd love it if I could see it"
why are old people so bm
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>>53429237
Don't blame them anon, it's just the cataracts talking.
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>>53428155
>Oh sure, I know some bards who paint regimental button numbers in Fraktur script on Prussian 6 mm fusiliers, but I’m talking about humans here.
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>>53428155
>6mm gaming in braille
I was the guy holding 1/72 up as the ultimate scale in the other thread, but even I wouldn't go this retardedly far
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>>53429843
>1/72
For AFV availability Id be inclined to agree, there are so shit-hot kits out there if you have the patience to build them.
But imo any system involving guns just looks weird at anything bigger than 15mm, unless its 90% point-blank skirmishes in heavily built up terrain.
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Anyone played Danger Close from Empress? I'm thinking of nabbing a PDF.
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>>53431578
Be my guest.
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>>53431702
Brilliant thanks!
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What do you do when you've hit that wargaming slump /hwg/? I have figures and projects to finish but no enthusiasm.

I've got packing and moving to sort out at the moment but I'm normally pretty good at putting that off in favour of painting the tinies men.
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>>53433157
Don't force anything, or pick up something you wanted for long but haven't got around doing it since you bought it. Or something absolutely unrelated to your current stuffs.
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>>53433157
I switch eras. WW2 is where I spend the most money, but I have projects in 6mm in pretty much everything prior to the 20th century. Everything's always a WIP but that's intentional:

One of the older grognard guys in our historical group went on a big painting spree one week while he was taking leave. He burned through whole armies, one night before going off to bed he primed the last thing he hadn't finish - some Roman auxiliaries. Had a heart attack that night. Went to emergency, told him it was really minor but he needs to take care to avoid it becoming a bigger issue in the future. He's definitely more health conscious but he also went out and bought some minis that just sit in the box to this day - completely untouched. He's convinced that if you finish all your projects, you die.

Ever since then I keep a box of 28mm Foot Guards in the box. Just in case.
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>>53433336
>He's convinced that if you finish all your projects, you die.
Aww man. There goes my determination to crack down on that backlog.
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>>53433157
Mostly nothing, because I'm in a slump. And since it's me that drives historical gaming locally of any kind that isn't just Bolt Action... If I don't do it no-one will. And Bolt Action looks like it's about to be killed by 40k.

I am also in a slump is what I am saying.
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Can someone fill me in on how Dead Man's Hand is suppose to play? I saw that the rulebook is bundled with a funky set of playing cards, but I have no idea what exactly they are supposed to do.
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>>53421565
Why you not like Mel m8?

Hes taught me lots of stuff and made my terrain better.
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>>53426324
Dat VOTG man. Are you playing any of the CG? and is that stack w/ teh DC in U17?
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>>53433887

The playing cards are there to determine turn sequence (randomly assigned to each miniature, acting in order of card value) as well as additional actions outside the basic rules structure that can be played during a turn. The hands are themed to each gang type to provide characterful abilities.
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How's kings of war historical?
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>>53434996
A quick game that can be enjoyed on a club night to get figs on the table, but lacking any real depth to both the game play and the history. Also pretty OK as a baby's first historic mass battle.
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>>53434085
I like him, I just find him a bit grating.

Still watch the videos that are relevant to my interests though.
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>>53400812
Wargames Factory had some sculpting issues. Personally I loved the Numidians, but cut down the necks.
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>>53409906
Hello Fellow Successorfag. What are your thoughts on the Kapadocians as Cataphracts and their adoption of Gallic arms on foot?
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>>53411403
I hope not. We still don't have a good book on how Crossbowmen were used on the field in English for God's sake.
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>>53417332
>>53417304
yep doormats. pic related
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Plastic Soldier Company is offering 25% off on "selected products across our Plastic kits, boardgames and books". Shame I'm saving money for other stuff.
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>>53439864
>Shame I'm saving money for other stuff.
Same mate.
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>>53439864
Such a shame they don't have anything at the moment I really need.

Plus I'm still a bit angry for not releasing their Cromwell and Universal Carrier and all the infantry in 1:72.
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>>53439864
>>53439941
Judging by the time of day I might have to wait for a response - but does anyone know how long it takes PSC to ship across the pond? That British Para bundle looks really nice.
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>>53437605
Isn't the only we ever hear of Cappadocian and Galatian cataphracts from certain authors regarding Magnesia? I personally find it odd to see Galatians adopting cataphract weaponry while it makes more sense for the Kapadocians even if the only known heavy cavalry unit of "Eastern" descent" were the Agema.
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>>53442147
dat zareba. Muh colonial borther.
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>>53442173
It was the Sudan game put on by the "Old Guard Wargames Club" at Partizan a few weeks back
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>>53442360
>a few weeks back
a few days, I mean
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Hey Hind & Seek anon, how important is basing? Because your basing standards are not to my tastes - you've got squads & mortars on 30x15mm, specialists on 15mm square, I was thinking of putting squads on 25mm square or 50x25mm and mortars, specialists and other stuff on 20mm square or something like that.

Anything I should be wary of if I do that?
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>>53443462
Either that or basing on coins, if I can find a cheap source of old soviet and afghan coins. or pennies and 2p coins if those cost more than a pittance
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Could Hind and Seek be used for Imagi nations shit in africa?
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>>53443560
Not to take away business opportunities from him, but I'd say AK47 Republic is better suited for such sheanigans.
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>>53443600
Well I've already go AK47. I was just looking at possibilities.
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>>53443462
Also while I'm at it, your sample TO&Es, do the platoon HQs ride with one of the squads? They don't quite fit except for the motor rifle btr coy, the mr bmp coy has trouble finding slots for its sniper teams and platoon hqs, while the airborne coy has platoon hqs running alongside their bmds.

also I'm not sure the btr-70 should have the same transport capacity as the btr-60.

and your scenario maps still have really wonky sizing, the second convoy map is the most glaring example: a 12" tall deployment box is apparently twice the height of a 12" tall exit line?

nitpicking aside, congratulations and this game looks bloody great. ilu
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>>53443560
It's kinda focused on what it does, which is a regular force with armour, mech infantry and helicopters opposing insurgents in hilly areas where their tanks can't easily elevate their guns to hit them.

You could definitely use it for african imagi-nations in mountainous regions - hell, set it in 2020 and you can still be driving t-55s around.
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I have to admit I was considering using Hind & Seek for SF gaming. You don't really need to adapt it, just change the names.
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More H&S nitpicking: the example on page 2 is wrong, you mean 6 forces and 4 assets.
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>>53443772
actually wait hang on it's way wronger than that. yo, proofread that example of points allocation.

this is not to say that anyone here should not rush out and buy it and play it right away, if only to know what minor shit I'm posting about.
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>>53443720
I'm the lad with the big AK47 army that gets posted. I've got armour and helis (although I need some more), I'm just looking for other games to use it. As much as I love AK47, in theme and politcs etc, I find some of the game bits not great.
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>>53443804
Then yeah, absolutely give it a shot. It's more focused on a particular play style than AK-47, and that's one of the more interesting things about it - it's trying to focus on a specific aspect of war rather than a vague modern wargame. This really comes across strongly in the terrain and height stuff, which is simple but gets the theme across.

Although AK-47 does have its focus on wacky stuff, I guess.
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Fuck it's hot.
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>>53445882
Moderately so, aye.
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>>53445930
moderate? anything above 15C I sweat like nobodies business. Send help.
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>>53445959
Hit 29 briefly yesterday.

in fucking england, I swear to fuck, this is brexit's fault somehow. maybe we were using the eu to store all our sun?

this is not civilised wargaming weather, you get the books and toy soldiers all sweaty.
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>>53446107
It's awful. Just got to remember the days of Empire. Linen shirt, linen shorts and a big fucking Gin and Tonic (although I'm all out of tonic).
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>>53446107
Apparently topped at 23C here in Sweden. Still, since we haven't had much of a spring, it feels crazy hot.

Thank the gods my apartment is cool and nice.
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>>53446107
>84 degrees
>hot

Come spend the summer here where you folks think everybody dresses like cowboys for some odd reason.

>>53446227
Get some ginger beer, or just some damn lime and make a Gimlet instead.
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>>53443462
Any size bases will work, provided both sides are the same. Weapon teams could even be on the same size as squads if you need more space for them.

>>53443665
Usually HQs have their own vehicle, it was interesting trying to balance the real life TO&E with the available space in vehicles, sometimes it didn't add up (as often the real life motor rifle squads were only 2 or 3 men, instead of 5 like I assume a rifle squad is in H&S)
BTR-60 and 70 are lumped together for simplicity, but you're right they do have quite different transport capacities. A BTR-70 would only really have transport space 3 in the H&S system - 7 passengers is a single squad and a weapons team. I'll consider adding a separate entry for it, but its nice to have 1 stat line and points value for them both. Guys could ride on top in a pinch in the BTR-70.

I'll double check that example as well, and I can actually remove the 6" exit lines on that scenario image - no longer needed.

I have some edits and clarifications to push through, so will add all these in with them. Once updated, everyone who has bought it gets the updated version no cost.
I'll also be adding in a printer-friendly B&W version.

>>53443803
Ah yep, another correction. Not sure how that got by... I thought I double checked those points.

>>53443560
Possibly, its really geared as a specific Soviet-Afghan wargame, but the system will work for any kind of asymmetrical war, I will probably adapt if for 'nam at some stage. provided I can think of a good title -
to pun or not...?

We also have plans to release a generic modern system, although this will be quite a way down the track.
Essentially my planned work for ostfront publishing is: edits and sorting printed books for H&S, Finnish army list for ostfront, and then either a 'nam version of H&S or a modern air combat game. Chechnya is also on the cards but will probably be do-able with the generic modern system.
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>>53446268
What about the Malaria? Tonic saves lives!

[Spoiler] I like a gimlet, I'm just teasing [/Spoiler]
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>>53445930
>legends of books are over $100 at this point
Good thing pdfs exist.
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>>53446227
>a big fucking Gin and Tonic
yes.

or just give in to the heat and break out the rum, that's a good alternative.
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>>53446269
>I'll double check that example as well, and I can actually remove the 6" exit lines on that scenario image - no longer needed.
It's all of 'em, really, the scenario images have really wonky measurements. Which is fine, it's clear what you're getting at, it just bugs me. Probably the fucking heat.

>>53446268
>Come spend the summer here where you folks think everybody dresses like cowboys for some odd reason.
We don't kinkshame, you don't heattoleranceshame, ok?
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>>53440729
I didn't mean to imply Gallatian Cataphracts. I meant the Cappadocian infantry adopting the longsword and thueros.
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>>53443434
Successor Dude, your slingers are way too close to those Velites, they should retreat, and hope they can report that low rise to their friends before it breaks up the phalanx!
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>>53446269
>generic modern system

I thought you lot already did that? T-90 or something of that variety.
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>>53446640
But you mentioned Cappadocians as cataphracts.
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>>53446511
>We don't kinkshame, you don't heattoleranceshame, ok?
>We don't kinkshame

THAT is empirically untrue. Otherwise that one guy's unhealthy fetish for 1/72nd models wouldn't have been a divisive issue to the point of driving him off /hwg/.
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>>53446227
Gin goes surprisingly well with Dandelion & Burdock.
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>>53448912
I'm pretty sure he still posts here, just less often and without the name.
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>>53448748
Well they some of them road armoured horses and carried lances, and that seems to a good definition for Cataphracts.
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>>53448942
It wasn't me, but a different anon. Seems like there are more than one 1:72nd enthusiast around here.
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>>53449276
Speaking of 1/72, what a shame the PSC sale is mostly 15mm.

And speaking of PSC: do their "pdf bundles" comprise "pdf & hardcover" or is it "bunch of pdfs"? Not quite clear to me from their shop.
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>>53395374
Picked up and assembled a Napoleonic French and British 6mm 1812-1815 armies from baccus6mm, what rules are the best to use them with?
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>>53448459
I think those are for Check Your 6!

>>53450919
Try Blucher or the Polemos set
http://www.mediafire.com/file/afhrvz48w64y374/Blucher.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ctlxmun66n65cy2/Polemos+6mm+Napoleonic.pdf
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Are there any Victorian era skirmish games? Something I could use for the FPW or First Boer War?
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>>53452410
You want The Men Who Would Be Kings, check out the Victorian/Games folder.
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>>53452337
Cheers, will give both of them a look.
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>>53446511
Yep, I'll go through and clean up the scenario images - they are still the very quick ones I did and not very pretty.
Cheers for the feedback by the way, I had to leave for work otherwise would have said that earlier. I'm living proof that proof-reading your own work isn't very effective proof-reading at all...

>>53446893
I did make T-90, and played quite a few games with it. It does work, but its not great and I would like to use a lot of the the H&S dynamics - vehicles, infantry and helicopters are all handled much more simply (and more effectively / realistically) in H&S so I'd like to incorporate those elements, as well as the dispersion and hidden ambush system. Then just need to stat out [all modern vehicles ever] and come up with some urban multi-level building rules and we should be good.

My colleague also has a draft for a modern system, so we'll probably pick and choose the best parts from everything modern we've made so far. This is still quite a way off though, lots of research to do on that one, and I would personally like to get modern air combat and 'nam out of the way first. 'nam can essentially be a re-skin of H&S, but with new assets and all new units. Thankfully I've already done a bunch of research on 'the american war' as the Vietnamese call it, and have written a strategic level game for it, so making a tactical tabletop in the vein of H&S should be no problem.

Modern air combat is calling though - Looking forward to researching radar and missile ranges and implementing correct SAM tactics like blinking, buddy launches and also creating a solo play version using a pack of playing cards (I imaging playing a whole bunch of cards face down and then attempting to reveal them with your radar - red could be hostiles, black could be buddies, and the type of element would depend on the card - it would be element based, so you would control a flight of 4 F-16s or somesuch and come across enemy elements, which could be 2 or 4 ships)
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>>53453660
>Modern air combat is calling though - Looking forward to researching radar and missile ranges and implementing correct SAM tactics like blinking, buddy launches and also creating a solo play version using a pack of playing cards (I imaging playing a whole bunch of cards face down and then attempting to reveal them with your radar - red could be hostiles, black could be buddies, and the type of element would depend on the card - it would be element based, so you would control a flight of 4 F-16s or somesuch and come across enemy elements, which could be 2 or 4 ships)
And, of course, a merc campaign option? Hint hint?

(that would be a ridiculous amount of work to do well and I'd understand if you ignored this)
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My friend and I have around 15 models of ancient/classical warriors each. What would be a good system for a few cheeky games? I suppose it'd have to be something "squad-sized." Is there something like Five Men at Alesia?
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>>53453660
>>53455165
>And, of course, a merc campaign option? Hint hint?

Protip: look up Mercenary Air Squadron, Firestorm and AirWar21c

You're welcome.
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>>53452953
That's a pretty nice ruleset, but not quite what I'm after. When I say skirmish, I mean 5-10 models a side, all acting independently.
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Soon I'll be done with my Masters, and I'll get time to push some chits

Next up is a game of Carthage; can't wait to play one of the more involved scenarios, particularly since we fucked up the siege rules massively on our first play. Maybe I'll even take a picture that isn't shit this time
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>>53448459
>>53452337
Ah, thanks, that helped me find them.
CY6-900 by Noble Miniatures.

Too bad the dials only go to 6/7. I wanted to use them for Sturmovik Commander, which goes to 9. I guess I'll have to go with Litko then.
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>>53455621
You could try Chevauchee - a kind of medieval FiveCore.
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>>53395374
Any news on when we will be seeing the last of the warlord games sealion stuff?

Getting real sick of week after week of Gates of antares releases...give it up Priestly its not going to be the next 40k
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>>53449276
Oh yeah!!!!
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>>53456614
Antares actually is pretty fun. Have you played it? I'm glad they are working on a space base games with no limitations and branching out.
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>>53455738
Look forward to it!
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>>53457416
Nobody plays it.
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>>53395374
Does anyone have any good comparison pics of Perry's plastic stuff vs GW?

I was looking for a bunch of mini's I could use for fantasy/wargaming/historical stuff. And GW has some normalish models by they're full retard on pricing.
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>>53459159
>GW has some normalish models
they do?
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>>53459159
Not got a pic to hand but they don't mix even with the older ranges of GW stuff because they're smaller in key details like weapons, hands and heads even where they're not just shorter.
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>>53459159
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I'm trying to get some wargames started with some friends but we don't see each other that often and was wondering if there's any good (preferably free) virtual tabletop software that would be worth looking at?
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>>53459522
>normalish
You know, like only mildly mentally handicapped.
>>53459647
Not thinking about kit bashing. I just want stuff that looks about right from a distance.
>>53459885
Thanks m8. I really appreciate it.
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>>53459132
therein lies my problem, its competing with 40k and apart fro the ghar there are no other interesting factions really.
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>>53460366
I find their model designs to be very lacking.
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>>53460366
It's a hard market to crack into.

I think companies are better off doing their own thing, and building a player base, before trying to go toe to toe with 40k.

>>53460404
Yeah. Not bad, just not interesting.
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>>53456614
>>53460366
>>53460737
There is a pretty active community though.
The main difference between the markets Antares and 40k seem to attract is their respective age.
Without exception every Antares player seems to be an adult.

Anyway there is an /awg/ up at the moment if you guys want to continue the discussion about GoA.
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>>53460366
It's not just competing with 40k, it's competing with Bolt Action which grabbed a lot of the older 40k players. Players that are looking at 40k again given the changes (though who knows how long that will last).

Doomed from the start.
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>>53461139
>Doomed from the start.
When Rogue Trader was written nobody thought there would be a huge market for sci-fi games.

Antares hasn't even covered all entries in the army lists with models yet. It is still in it's early stages.
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>>53461281
Yeah. Unfortunately poor timing with 8th dropping.

We'll see how it goes. I'd love more games to take off, i'm just not overly optimistic.
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>>53459904
If you wanna go free, there's probably a bunch of lesser known systems like Universal Battle. No personal experience in that field and all I've seen were 2D.

Free and rather popular is Vassal. Personally never used it for wargaming, but for other board games and if the module is decent it gets the job done. You can make your own modules of course, but it's a bit complex. It's 2D as well, but well suited for chit-based games, I guess.

Now Tabletop Simulator is 3D, but costs at least USD10 (during sales, which come regularly). This too depends on modules, but is a bit easier to use and only the host actually needs the modules. I've used it for chit-based and miniature-based games and it performs well on both. Getting miniatures and terrain is rather easy if you spend some time, but importing your own is a problem of course (unless you're a 3D-modeler yourself), but importing your own custom chits is rather easy and I can recommend it.
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>>53459904
I have to agree with >>53462385 on Tabletop Simulator, once you have a model in it it's easy to resize them to whatever scale you want them in, or even base how you want. Here's a image of some models I've ripped from games to put into it, the 18th century models were re-sized down to around 6mm and then attached to bases.

The reason they're completely blue is because they don't have textures, and without a texture it just becomes a solid shade of whatever color you chose.
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>>53465500
Even with the advantage of playing on a computer, people still play with unpainted minis.
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>>53455165
>a merc campaign option
How realistic is it to have a mercenary air squadron? do these things actually exist or is it pure rule of cool?
I imagine the resources needed to keep a modern air squadron flying and full of munitions are more in the area of a portion of an entire countries defense budget rather than the capabilities of a PMC. Some PMCs do seem to be doing pretty well though, but... THAT well? Also what are the legal problems with obtaining GBUs, HARMS and the like? Acquiring assault rifles are no biggie, but ordnance for modern jets? could be a problem.

I imaging the closest you get to a mercenary air squadron is an actual air force that is incredibly low on pilots and has to hire in a few guys, but I'm doubtful as to whether that would happen. There tend to be far more hopeful pilots than positions available in a modern air force.

I hate to be a stick in the mud, as I know /tg/ loves its merc air campaigns, but I haven't seen evidence of this happening in real life...

Modern air combat does seem to be the place where a pilots personality would be worth representing, rather than having different quality of pilot skills - almost everyone in a modern air force is well trained and knows exactly what they're doing, but they would each have a different personality so it would be cool to have pilot quirks One of them could be "maverick".
Of course some air forces would have a lower quality of training, so they would have a blanket pilot quality implied - and then their quirks.

Either way it will be fun to write and research, and the solo version will suit campaign play - so you could probably run a merc air squadron if you wanted to!

Also I'm an EA-6B prowler nut so electronic warfare and SEAD missions will be part of the package. Just like lacquered coffins it will be all about the interaction of ground and air, as well as air to air.
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>>53467734
>an actual air force that is incredibly low on pilots and has to hire in a few guys, but I'm doubtful as to whether that would happen. There tend to be far more hopeful pilots than positions available in a modern air force.
It's happened more than a few times, in fact it's currently happening in libya.
What happens is either a group gets it's hands on aircraft but don't actually have any trained pilots, an actual air force that doesn't trust the pilots it has, or some combination of the two
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Hi all, I recently came across the wargame Battlegroup, wich really seduced me. I saw that there are a few books already available on this thread (and i'm really thankfull to the person who posted it) but i'm looking for the supplement Wacht am Rhein or Blitzkrieg.
if some anon have it and is willing to share, i would really appreciate.
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>>53469724
>mfw I never realized the Highlanders were involved in so much
http://51hd.co.uk/
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Does anyone know if a TOG1 tank model exists in the 1/48 to 1/56 range? Or is it just another one of those interesting things in the Sea Lion book that no one makes a model for?
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>>53470610
>no model for a tank that was not used
What a surprise.
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>>53470144
The 51st (Highland), along with the 3rd Infantry and the Guards Armoured, were one of the three most famous British divisions in WW2. Originally it comprised most of the Regular Army Highland battalions, especially the Gordons and the Black Watch, despite actually being a Territorial unit. The surrender at St Valery in 1940 was really devastating, it took two years to reform the division and lost them almost all of the best pre-War NCOs and officers. They went on to serve famously in the desert, Alamein was fought to the sound of swirling bagpipes.
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>>53467240
I lol'd.

>>53467734
Sturmovik Commanders (free) Aces module has some pilot "quirks". So does Squadron Forward, which can be an interesting source for air campaign gaming in general.

>>53469724
Would love to see more scans to check them out, as well, but no luck so far. Blitzkrieg is on sale at PSC, though.
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So I got my hand on a rather cheap Ho Ha in 28mm. I probably will barely able to use it, but was fun to paint.
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>>53471437
You could always use it as terrain.

I like the chipping, but if you accept two advices:
- the brown seems uneven at places - it doesn't usually cover too good on light basecolor, so a second thin layer is recommended usually
- the chipping is very nice, what you could try is to do some chippingwork on the dark brown and green with the base dark yellow color

Solid work overall, nice job anon.
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>>53471467
thanks for the advice. you're absolutely right about chipping the cammo a little bit! will do that.

regarding the cammo. since the Japanese painted it on mostly with brushes instead of airbrushes (way to fancy for the Japanese army) it should be a bit uneven. at least that's what I was going for.
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>>53471437
Nice work, good to see some Japanese vehicles that aren't the Chi-Ha!
Agree with the other anon that the brown camo is a bit washed out in places. The weathering is great though - almost too great. Looks more like its been abandoned for 20 years than a vehicle that is fighting regularly. Especially the tracks - they could be rusted solid by the look of them.

Should be fun to game with though, must be hard to find vehicles in 28mm.

Type 2 Ka-Mi next please!
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>>53471467
tip for applying decals. give the spot the decal will go a bit of gloss varnish first. let it try and then apply the decal. that way you'll avoid the shiny effect.
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>>53471701
let it "try". it's "dry". learn English.
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>>53471701
Don't worry anon, I did that, the pic I shown was just a WIP - the interior and the gunner wasn't finished yet, but it was the pic that showed best the chipping. It had shiny varnish applied under the decals.
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>>53471745
alright.

here's one terrain piece. Usable as a roadblock or something.
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Does anyone have the PDF for Battlegroup Barbarossa? Or any information about it's Romanian forces?
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>>53468040
Yes, but airplane and ordnance are from UAE, not from a PMC. Not really a merc air squadron. Only some pilots hired to fly. And to fly modified crop plane.
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>>53468040
>I hate to be a stick in the mud, as I know /tg/ loves its merc air campaigns, but I haven't seen evidence of this happening in real life...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_von_Rosen
>Disgusted at the suffering the Nigerian government inflicted on the Biafrans and the continuous harassment of international relief flights by the Nigerian Air Force, he hatched a plan in collaboration with the French secret service to strike back at Nigerian air power. He imported five small civilian single engine MFI-9 planes produced by Malmö Flygindustri, at that time owned by SAAB, which he knew could also be used for a ground attack role in warfare. He had the planes painted in camouflage colours and fitted with license manufactured 68 mm SNEB type rockets, and proceeded with a crew of two Swedes and two Biafrans to form a squadron called 'Biafra Babies' to strike the air fields from which the federal Nigerian Air Force launched their attacks against the civilian population in Biafra. On May 22, 1969, and over the next few days, von Rosen and his five aircraft launched attacks against Nigerian air fields at Port Harcourt, Enugu, Benin and other small airports. The Nigerians were taken by surprise and a number of expensive jets, including a few MiG-17 fighters and three out of Nigeria's six Ilyushin Il-28 bombers, were destroyed on the ground
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>>53470865
>Scottish
>Territorial
I guess 'territorial' doesn't mean the same thing in Commonwealth forces as it would in say, France?
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>>53472404
That's right, in British/Commonwealth parlance the "Territorial" forces are like the National Guard in the US, or the Reserves elsewhere - the 'weekend warriors'. In the British Army the first two battalions of a regiment were Regulars, and subsequent ones were Territorials.
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>>53472339
wow thats fucking awesome.

Thats what a real merc air campaign would be like - attempting to sneak in and assemble a rag-tag squadron into some third-world country in the middle of a civil war. Most of the fun of the campaign would be in the assembly and stealth operations of setting up the squadron - trying to find the funding, getting into the country and finding somewhere to fly out of. The actual flying would probably be the final dungeon, so to speak.
Very cool stuff though, always interesting to see people doing extraordinary things like this.

I seem to remember a screencap of some guy who bought his on hind and flew multiple missions all over the world, but I'm pretty sure that was bullshit made up by some guy on /k/. I could be wrong I want to be wrong...
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>>53472526
>I seem to remember a screencap of some guy who bought his on hind and flew multiple missions all over the world, but I'm pretty sure that was bullshit made up by some guy on /k/.
You might be thinking of Neall Ellis?
>Neall Ellis is a South African military aviator and mercenary. Raised in Bulawayo, he joined the South African Air Force after a brief stint in the Rhodesian Army. As a helicopter pilot he was awarded the Honoris Crux decoration in 1983, and later attained field rank. After retiring from the SAAF he contracted for various private military corporations, including Executive Outcomes and Sandline International. During the civil war in Sierra Leone, he and his crew held off Revolutionary United Front (RUF) forces almost single-handedly, and the capital was only overrun after his Mi-24 Hind gunship broke down. He also provided fire support for British troops during Operation Barras.
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>>53471437
That the resin one that's sold on eBay?
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>>53472634
exactly.
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>>53472628
Holy shit its real. Amazing

This goes into him in a bit more detail than his wikipedia article:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19472_the-5-craziest-soldiers-fortune-to-ever-cash-paycheck.html
also features our Biafran friend too
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>>53472339
>>53472526
>>53472628
>>53472705
Maaaaaan, 1960s-80s Africa is just too banananas not to set a Planes & Mercs-style campaign in.

Too fucking cool.
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>>53472628
Yeah, there was, and there are, many pilots that after their military service, go to a merc life. Von Rosen or Ellis (I have the book of his history "Gunship Ace") are solo pilots, not sure a squadron, with not to much resources by the nations who hired. In the book Ellis speak about his squadron of 2 Mi24, of which is the only pilot and that is best weapon is an 80mm rocket.
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>>53472666
Any thoughts on the model, I've been kind of interested in getting it but had no idea what the quality of it is like.
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>>53467734
>do these things actually exist or is it pure rule of cool?

They do actually. There are historical examples like the flying tigers and guys flying in the bush wars of the 60's to 80's in Biafra etc. Modern I only know of the PMC that does aggressor training (force on force simulation) for the US.
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>>53473927
I was pleasantly surprised. for the price you hardly can except any better. has a few tiny bubbles here and there, but nothing really visible after painting it up. more than enough for using it as a playing piece.
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>>53470849
Battlefront makes a 15mm TOG. I like the Sea Lion book overall but whats the point in making rules for models that don't exist anywhere?
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>>53478457
>>53464139
I did it again /hwg/ hold me, I bought another 80 pounds of perry's.

I already had enough of them, 5 boxes of plastic infantry and some metal knights on horseback.

But no I had to order another box of bows and bills for my Dutch factional army. And some Italian riders and swiss captains and some commanders aswell.

And peasants, I really needed six peasants to work my fields.
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>>53476343
What's the point of making a Sealion book in general?
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>>53478812
control urself my man
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>>53478853
I didn't even finish the Perry's I already had
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>>53478812
Do you at least have an opposing force from all that?
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>>53478881
One of the reason's I bought all this is I can have two armies of 20 units each now
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>>53478831
Because plenty of people find alternative history interesting? Especially people into military history.
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my buddy's ASL counter collection is still growing. and yes. they are all clipped.
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Played a good game of Bolt Action this weekend. The table was a bit small since we played in my apartment, but it looked pretty good. I was especially pleased with the buildings.
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>>53480902
A couple more pictures
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>>53480938
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>>53480902
>>53480938
>>53480973
Nice anon. Who won? Models looks good.
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>>53481507
My Brits won the day.
Thank you! I only recently started painting, so the process is slow and I'm far from pleased with all of them, but some turned out quite good I think.
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Does anyone have any of the ASL Journals other than #3 in PDF?
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>>53480902
>>53480938
>>53480973
That terrain is amazing!
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>>53483047
Bare cardboard, quickly painted pre-made buildings and a digital image mat don't make for anything other than average. Amazing requires serious dedication and work.
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Had a historical wargames convention here this weekend. I stopped by to take a look and see what was going on. It was still early in the first day. So not much going on. But they did have a massive D Day game going on in 6mm.
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>>53435349
Anyone have a PDF of the army lists?
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>>53428155
>> The author adorably thinks 6mm is 'gaming in braille' 3mm stronk
>he doesn't play with small rectangles of tracing paper that he's flicked paint onto using a toothbrush

mfw
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>>53483047
Thank you!
>>53483309
Yeah, the trees and hedges look awful, but the buildings aren't pre-made. My dad 3d-printed them and my gf painted them.
Turns out it's a lot cheaper to print your own terrain.If you have a 3d printer that is-
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Had a good Sunday playing some SAGA.

We did an eight point Last Stand scenario - Anglo Danes lead by Hereward the Wake, versus Vikings.

It was a bloody battle, but at the end of turn ten Hereward had managed to tire out all my Vikings and slay the warrior priestess of Tyr to save the day.
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>>53472628
Great book on his adventures...
Gunship Ace: The Wars of Neall Ellis, Helicopter Pilot and Mercenary
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>>53472831
One can do a whole just dealing with merc pilots in Africa during that era.
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>>53484854
I played saturday, it was pretty kick-ass, lots of fun homebrews and people breaking out crazy miniatures.
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Just got given a bunch of reasonably retro painted Viking miniatures, what's a good set of skirmish rules I could use for them? preferably free ones.

Thanks,
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>>53488121
Can't go wrong with SAGA. It's not free though...
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>>53488258
Hey man, if a digital ruleset just happens to fall off the back of a digital truck, it would be a waste not to pick it up right?
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>>53488276
I believe just such a leaky digital truck is parked up in the OP, on the corner of Medieval and Games.
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>>53488276
A very viking attitude, I'm sure
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>>53488121
I am having a nostalgia overdose. Ended up using some old unfinished simple set of rules so I could really get the old school feeling I'm going for.
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>>53489740
Here's a less smudged second round photo.
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>>53489876
Looks like fun! what are your rules like? could you give us a quick summary?
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>>53488121
Open Combat
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>>53488121
Chevauchee might work!
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>>53490164
Sorry for late response. I was roped into doing gardening.

The rules are ultra simple and very very barebones, including some glaring omissions that I'm writing rules for as they appear. I got it off of TMP, found it quite quickly, seems to have been written by some old bloke for him and his friend to play with. It's an excel 2007 file with a couple of tables, like movement. The other tables govern combat, it's weapon vs armour. It's a d20 roll equal to or over affair, for instance sword vs chain and shield = 15 for example, mace vs leather = whatever, certain weapons are better at different things, war hammers seem pretty good against shield walls . There's another table for ranged weapons where the to-hit score varies by range. If you hit you deal 1 wound, roll 20 you deal two. There really isn't that much else to explain, they're that basic, doesn't even tell you how many wounds it takes to kill someone, cavalry are just fast big men. Still I like the rules so far. I'll upload them/screen shot them later as I'm phoneposting right now, I hope everything is legible.
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>>53493273
I like that, the table. You reckon you're going to build much into it?
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Gaaaaaah, I'm waiting on my Brit Paras for Bolt Action. Why must I wait sooooooo long????
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>>53492576
Where are those buildings from? They look great!
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>>53494511
cool. post them once you're done!
I already have more than a 1000 points in metal so I will wait with the plastics until I need some new models. I painted my Commander today though.
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>>53493703
Not all that much, it seems like it wouldn't be difficult at all, you've a lot of space to expand. All I think I'll do is differentiate mounted troops and add support rules or something like that as literally all close combat is 1v1. Also what does and does not constitute a shield wall and give them a weakness because they seem really strong.
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So I'm looking for info on LCTs specifically on the pacific war and the MK IV, though more generic info is welcome in both or the general subject of LCTs.

I'd appreciate any help.
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>>53494942
>I painted my Commander today though.
Kind of looks like Sean Connery.
Nice job.
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>>53496714
Well, he did play ole Roy in the movie...
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>>53496714
>>53496846
Exactly. the mini was modelled after Sean Connery.
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>>53490164
Here's the "rules"

http://webpages.charter.net/dervel/Skirmish%20Rules.xls
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>>53498888
and a PDF version, also quads.
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Are there any good Youtuber for ASL?
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Are there any WW2 skirmish games besides Five Men at Kursk? (I have 1/72 scale models btw)
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Got a few of my mates into wargaming, rather unsurprisingly they decided to go to WW2 (I prefer WW1 and Victorian-era but I know I'm in the minority), they decided to go with 20mm for cheapness, really. I know one guy is raising a Soviet unit for sure, the other two I'm not quite sure. I'll be raising an Italian squad, I reckon. Probably going to be using Neil Thomas' OHW's scenarios, they're great for introducing people.

Should I use Westfront? It seems kind of good, but I've never really used it. Keep in mind my friends have some RPG experience but no previous wargaming experience.
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>>53500144
I meant Ostfront, not Westfront, my migraines aren't helping me today at all.
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>>53497861
that's cool
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>>53499977
Two Fat Lardies I Ain't Be Shot Mum
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>>53499404
About our own ASLAnon?
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>>53395374
>53395374
Anyone have the elite series osprey book on the home guard?
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Someone make a new thread, we're the last on the board
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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