REAL World of Darkness/Chronicle of Darkness General /wodg/

What do we know of mages in 5e?

They are still supreme power level right?

>mage supremacy
>mage supremacy
>mage supremacy

>>53239549
Swedish Dracula is at the helm expect some bullshit like "creating true sunlight is beyond the scope of awakened magic"

Man, the last time two thread were made at the same time, knowingly, it was when I was the big thing. Good times.
>>53239549
Nothing at all yet, that i know of anyway. Other than the Technos are backing the new Inquisition, so i guess they can't be dead?

>>53239679
how does one physically represent creating sunlight in tryingtohardtobealarp 5e more like.

>>53239691
>>53239709
>>53239762
>>53239804
>>53239821
As a Magefag, I unironically love these.

mages > you

If you were to change how Generation functions, how would you do it? Not the removal of Generation, but changing it from a Background to a Merit, would you divide things as Neonate/Ancilla/Elder/Methuselah?

>>53240262
That sounds ok, but it would require quite the spending on points to get it.

Neonate Free
Ancilla 2 Points
Elder 6 Points
Methuselah 9+ Points

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There's nothing wrong with mages being better than you

>>53240297
S'what I was thinking. I just like the concept of paying something besides background points for your Generation.

>>53239440
>This is what happens
>When 2 vampires
>3 werewolves
>and a mage
>decide to stop playing
>and start living in the real world

World of Darkness "Real World"

Go to your stupid containment thread magecucks.

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>>53241090

>>53239440
Thread theme.

https://youtu.be/AaFp5xuHGck?t=24s

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Virtue: Loyal
Vice: Sadistic

Path: Thyrsus
Order: Adamantine Arrow
Legacy: Umbran Witches

Mental Attributes: Intelligence 3, Wits 4, Resolve 4
Physical Attributes: Strength 4(7), Dexterity 6(9), Stamina 4(7)
Social Attributes: Presence 4, Manipulation 3, Composure 4

Mental Skills: Academics 2, Crafts 2, Computer 1, Medicine 2, Occult (Spirits) 3, Politics 1, Investigation 2, Science 1

Physical Skills: Athletics (Acrobatics) 6, Brawl 4, Drive (Motorcycle) 4, Firearms (Pistols) 4, Larceny 1, Stealth 3, Survival 2, Weaponry 4

Social Skills: Animal Ken 2, Empathy 2, Expression (Wisecracking, Dancing) 3, Intimidation (Violence) 3, Persuasion (Seduction, Taunting) 3, Socialize 3, Streetwise 2, Subterfuge 3

>>53242394
Merits: Area Of Expertise (Spirits), Common Sense, Danger Sense, Indomitable, Interdisciplinary Specialty (Spirits), Professional Training 5 (Umbran Witch: Athletics, Firearms, Occult), Tolerance For Biology, Trained Observer 3, Ambidextrous, Crack Driver 3, Demolisher 3, Iron Stamina 3, Parkour 3, Stunt Driver 3, Allies (Enzo, Rodin, Luka), Barfly, Closed Book 2, Iron Will, Resources 3, Pusher, Order Status (Adamantine Arrow 3), Striking Looks 2 (Slender And Curvy), Table Turner, True Friend (Jeanne), Heavy Weapons 5, Martial Arts 5, Enhanced + Imbued Item (Scarborough Fair*), High Speech, Potent Nimbus 2, Rote Mastery (Shapechanging 3, Acceleration 3, Spirit Summons 3, World Walker 3), Shadow Name 2

*The Scarborough Fair is treated as a single item modeled after Heavy Pistols. It contains the following benefits: Find The Balance, Ex Nihilo (Conjures Ammunition Only), Ephemeral Enchantment, Auto Fire, +2 Damage Bonus, +2 Durability, +10 Mana.

Health: 12
Willpower: 8
Defense: 10
Initiative: 13
Speed: 21
Wisdom: 4
Gnosis: 7
Arcana: Life 4, Spirit 4, Time 3, Forces 2, Matter 4

Rotes: Life (Honing The Form, Shapechanging), Time (Acceleration), Spirit (Know Spirit, Command Spirit, Bolster Spirit, Reaching, Spirit Summons, Twilit Body, World Walker), Matter (Shaping)

Praxes: Life (Shapechanging), Time (Acceleration), Forces (Control Gravity), Spirit (Ephemeral Shield, Reaching, Spirit Summons, World Walker), Matter (Shaping)

Dedicated Magical Tool: Umbran Watch

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>>53242394
>>53242406

>>53242808
Thanks! I can try to write stats for other fictional characters, if anyone is interested. Do keep in mind that I am only familiar with CoD.

>>53243041
Father Balder would make for an intriguing Obrimos.

>>53243117
As I see him, Balder is indeed an Obrimos. The Angels would be powerful and arrogant spirits operating as Balder's personal Choir that takes advantage of human beliefs. The Demons would be powerful spirits as well, but they'd be the purer, no-bullshit sort that can make deals but aren't anyone's slaves, which is why Bayonetta likes them more. Her Wicked Weaves and Witch Time are part of her Legacy Attainments, so there is no danger of Dissonance/Paradox/Quiescence.

>>53241189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opOUwDc1O-Q

>>53243117
Counting second game could Blader be Obrimos that ascends to archmastery but switches to Aswadim?

V5 Info, get it while it's hot!

Only 3 Attributes - Physical, Social and Mental, 1-5 dots
Specialities for these Attributes like Strength, Charisma etc (the old atts) and others that were not old Atts add one die
Skills pretty much unchanged 1-5 dots
TN nearly always 6
Difficulty is now number of succs. needed
Disciplines are activated by "Rousing the Blood"
This means you add all your (red) Hunger die to the pool (they replace ordinary die). We started with 1 die.
Hunger die only added to skill based pools (including pools that use skills for disciplines) but not others like willpower.
Hunger die track 1-5
Hunger increased during play, but it happened to me only once and I cant recall the mechanical cause
Hunger went to zero when someone fed
Victims sometimes gave a small bonus to trait rolls (eg. the homeless guy gave a die for the next stealth roll I think). This was even when partially drained.
Each 1 on Hunger die triggers a Compulsion
Compulsions are clan based and the consequences situation based and were randomly generated. Our hungry Toreador walked into a burned out haven and became entranced by the beauty of the destruction. Police then crept up on him.
Compulsions could be overcome with Composure, but this left you with less Compusure to counter with should a Frenzy occur later.
Frenzy occurred when more 1s came up together (I think)
Willpower was 1-5 and could be spent to reroll all the failed dice, so long as there was at least one success

Continued...

>>53247236
Humanity was in there at 1-10, but was not tested or afaik used in the beta, the focus was on other mechanics
Characters also had advantages like backgounds and merits, but these too were not a focus of play
The focus was really on how the mechanics and storytelling aspects of play integrated with one another
Im not going to give my views as I want that to brew for a while and to submit it to the offical feedback place first
The story was very dense - I dont think any table completed it in the 4 hours of play - and was a direct follow up to the events of the Enlightenment in Blood LARP which concluded the night before. The story became the first event of the new VtM metaplot.
It was set in Berlin in the current nights during an Anarch uprising that saw the final death of Breidenstein and numerous other vampires as well as follow up trouble coming from the Inquisition. We were all Camarilla neonates trying to find the vampire who had blood bonded us all. It was a clusterfuck. There were several classic moments in the story where the Hunger mechanics produced a genuine 'Vampire' moment.

I made one reporting error in my earlier post, the Anarchs are being forced out of the Camarilla, of course. But its a changed Camarilla, almost broken. The Anarchs are basically turning on a tyrannical, despotic organisation. The events in Berlin were the catalyst for a global change, as the Anarchs pulled the Camarilla to its knees here last week.
Generation was still in development but the idea talked about was that it would be less discernable and more difficult to know which generation your character or anothers actually was. Line of descent may be growing murky to the characters.

Continued...

>>53247256
Gehenna (the actual events of any ToJ metaplot) was not revealed but my sense is that V5 will feature a selection of elements from ToJ blended togther into a new version of Gehenna which for now we only know as the Gehenna Wars.
The two looks for vampire I mentioned are cosmetic looks, nothing more. Vampires in Elysium dress (and act) differently. This I feel is a nod to the LARPers, who like to really go to town on a look that would often shred the Masquerade on the streets. Elysium is now a place where they can let their monsters show and relax.

on combat - oh yeah! mostly between the characters as the situation was really intensive and desperate.
You could rouse the blood to increase any Attribute not just Physical. Also to heal.
Damage was really interesting, it came as either Superficial or Aggravated. Anything that could conceivably kill you was Aggravated for you. Aggravated damage was also very slow to heal.
You didnt take any penalty or injury until a certain level was reached (5 I think) then you took a nasty consequence that was dependent on the type of damage used.
The fighting was between the coterie members, the coterie and the German armed forces, the coterie and some very well equipped dudes who were likely New Inquisitors, and the coterie and some Anarchs. It worked well and was entertaining.
By the way, a little bird sitting in the middle of the nest told me that EDOM from Nights Black Agents were being ported or adapted into WoD...check out The Dracula Dossier for more on that little insight...and you'll realise this could easily be and probably will be part or even the heart of the New Inquisition.

Continued...

Does anyone have house rules they think help make the game better?

I'm looking for anything that might help make combat less wonky for changeling

Fuck it, here's a pastebin of the new V5 info.

https://pastebin.com/cp0r59da

>>53247236
>the homeless guy gave a die for the next stealth roll

>>53231331 & >>53231262 were right.

>finally getting back into these games, working my way through the nWoD 2e books
>here's what we know about 5e
fuck

>>53250032
2e is CofD/NWoD.
5e is OWoD.

Two entirely different game lines. You didn't miss two extra editions, dude.

>>53247277
I have just one question for combat: have they gotten rid of soak rolls?

How do you like your Hunter games, WoDg? Street level people trying to protect people from monsters? Modern day crusaders trying to purge the night of abominations? Government agents? Black ops? Hobo with a shotgun?

>>53251245
Rogue guys trying to kill supernaturals for their own reasons always sound cool to me.

>>53251245
All of the above!

>>53247955
That sounds nice, but a little bit complicated in game terms, the storyteller must prepare even the minor details this way.

>>53252934
Rogue as in people who left a larger group, or rogue in terms of using stealth, trickery, and cunning?

>>53253214
Now this is the right attitude. Got any particular cells of note you're thinking of, and does your group often mix up the backgrounds of the cellmates?

>>53256652
More of a combination of the two,

>>53256652
The only time I've ever run 'hunters' it was using the 1e NWoD blue book stuff. It was a lot of 'drawn together through fate/interactions under a governmental cover operation' deal, way before HtV was a thing.

>>53256699
Cool. Got any good stories of pulling one over on the creatures of the night?

>>53256737
It's not too different, though Hunters get risks and tactics, both of which are tons of fun.

>>53259719
I would've one, it was more like of a chess game against a vampire, were we ended victorious, but only half of the party survived.

>>53260916
A chess game? How so?

>>53247279
I streamline combat by taking the rolls out of damage and soak. The difficulty on those is almost always, if not always, six. As such, I assume a fifty percent success rate rounding up.

Say gangbanger X fires a special bullet that is lethal to vampires in shovelhead X He rolls to hit and gets four successes. He then adds these four successes to the gun's base damage of four and divides this number in half for a total of four levels. Shovelhead X has a Stamina of three. Divided in half, this comes to 1.5 and rounded up, it comes to Two. He therefore soaks two lethal damage and takes two lethal damage.

Powers such as potence and fortitude that allow you to burn blood for auto-successes add their full value to the calculation rather then half their value. The end result is that every action in combat is resolved with a single roll of the dice against a known difficulty of six, plus or minus any modifiers.

>>53239689
Caine's not actually strong at all. He just has GOD personally watching over him.

>>53262458
Okay dude. I am on your side, but you arent gonna win because magefags refuse to just accept there's literally no reason an archmage and caine would cross paths so they're just gonna repeat "prime sphere 6" at you till you get fed up and walk away

>>53262458

prime sphere 6

Ascendant >= God >= Oracle >= Celestine/Incarna >= Exemplar >= Archmage > Caine > Antediluvian > Methuselah >= Mage(Master) >= Earthbound > Mage >= Vampire(Elder) > Werewolf > Vampire > Mage(beginner) >>> Changeling

>>53263632
What are exemplars and oracles in Owod?

>>53264759
Evolved Archmages

How do I beat a Plain without getting the Consequences of Violence on me?

>>53239440
Is there any game that uses Storyteller/Storytelling that is not set in WoD? Some regular non-fantasy fiction.

>>53267085
You can use the game mechanics of most WoD games in a setting of your own creation with minimal effort, if it's the same time period/tech level.

>>53267453
I've only played VTM and Dark Ages. Any tip on what I should do to replace Disciplines?

>>53265340
You can't they're more powerful than the exarchs.

Can anyone help me brainstorm some ideas for my Mage 2e chronicle?

I'm working on a scenario right now where the PCs will be investigating Seer activity, and the hope is that they will stumble upon something that implicates members of the Consillium as being involved with the Seers. Problem is, I can't think of WHAT that something should be.

It doesn't have to be very solid evidence, and it maybe (probably) isn't even true, but it needs to be enough for the Ladder & Arrow who control the Consillium to have an excuse to crack down on the Free Council.

Any ideas?

World of Darkness Keynote 2017 - Berlin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9qpAosKdgI

>obligatory mage supremacy comment

>>53271378
Thanks for the link. I've been falling asleep all day, need something to keep my ass awake.

I JUST WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WITHOUT MAGES

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So why did White Wolf use its own staff as models for the Clans?

>>53272186
The people weren't WW or other subsidiary/licensee company staff until long after they were models. The model thing was a way to recognize the fans for V20.

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>Pentex celebrates [Trump's] inauguration

>>53272453

Was Elricsson just a fan back then as well?

>>53239440
Heya folks, I'm going to run Demon: The Descent and I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, figure out what exactly I should be doing when thinking up a scenario. If anyone has any experience with it or advice I'd greatly appreciate it.

God intended all of mankind to be mages. Demons state that humanity was made in his image, not in form but in soul. Many mages speculate that the true nature of avatars and ascension is that avatars are fragments of God and ascension is joining with the greater sum of God. Adam was the first mage, Lilith was the second mage as a Verbena forerunner, his second wife and Eve were the first sleepers. When God created a new wife for Adam he opted to make her a sleeper so Adam can lord over her without contest which he couldn't do with Lilith as she was a fellow mage. When Adam and Eve later ate from the Tree, God's curse was to take back his gift of default magehood that was supposed to be inherent in mankind, thus making most future humans sleepers. When Caine slew Abel he changed creation, introducing violence. God cursed him to prevent Caine from awakening and ascending as God rejected and possibly feared Caine at all possible levels. Being a vampire is literally God rejecting you.

First time story teller gonna a V20 game with my friends who have never played before.

What are some good starter ideas/stories/dilhemmas you guys have run? Looking for inspiration to switch my brain from DnD campaigns

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Both the Elysium and Street styles look absolutely retarded.

>>53272552
Yup. He got involved officially back when CCP bought the WoD IP.

>>53272633
The middle one on street looks dumb, the other street ones are at least something you could pick up in a normal store.

>>53272633
>Pentex buys out Urban Outfitters and Hot Topic to track vampiric customers

Keynote info

* Wants to build as the 'biggest transmedia brand', with a consistent story and aspects across aspects of media
* Wants it to be a participatory entertainment
* MET Changeling the Dreaming re-interated
* They have partners in place for the WoD TV series, with a target of 2020
* Talked about being at Gencon and PDX with previews/playtests of V5 (obviously starting next year)
* No specific time for V5 playtest rules
* worldofdarkness.com will become a community portal for all methods of the game, but will start with LARP focus (something that was previewed separately was a LARP game tracker with character creation, which is part of this)
* Dhaunae is REAL lou (like, she carried without the mic, just a funny anecdote).
* Storytellers Vault will be the first user-created content section, starting with Masquerade. It'll have spots to publish fiction, supplements, etc. along with templates for use so that fan material looks like book material
* Storyteller Vault will have sections for non-English language submissions
* Apparently this is not just a 'fan share' site as well; they mentioned that you keep half of the revenue, so it looks like it'll actually be for full-on publishing of things via WW.
* Talked about the game finder aspects, and clear labeling of content/expectations in those games
* Talked about an Augmented Reality aspect of the WoD, with an 'in world' website and newsticker
* Same setting bible will be used for every piece of transmedia, which will be reflected in the material in the V5 core and the two initial setting books, Camarilla and Anarch
* Some photos are labeled Elysium and Street; it's a dichotomy between something you'd see on a runway catwalk or in a period piece production vs. modern fashion
* Reiteration of the Gehenna stuff we already had. A bit more about the Second Inquisition, in that the vampires' own attempts to use the ABC agencies of government for their own ends is what revealed them and brought about the issue.

>the Eldest, the thickest of blood, are called away
>into the east, into the places where old temples stretching tens of thousands of years tell of a time before Enoch, during the birth of the Antediluvians

Wait what?

>4th, 5th and 6th generation get pulled by the Beckoning for the Gehenna Wars

>>53272849
It's always been a thing in Vampire to have ancient hidden temples. This posits those as the battleground between clans under their Antediluvians in the Gehenna War.

Myself, I like the concept of the removal of high generations and giving the neonates/ancilla more play. The 'in over their head' aspect of that sounds fun.

>>53272905
ARGH the removal of low generations. I need to go back to bed, stupid sickness.

>>53272552
Jesus christ that's just embarrassing.

>>53272905

I don't like this because they're all about setting an ageist/classist conflict, i.e. the higher generations vs the lower ones. If the actual Elders and Methuselahs were still around, there'd be no conflict to speak of, hence the Beckoning, hence them being pulled away.

Also, this idea that the Anarch section of the new take on Kindred society uphold only the first tradition, i.e. the masquerade, is kind of retarded. What happens when these Anarchs start Embracing people left and right, when they're already being watched by the 2nd Inquisition?

>>53272970
I'm withholding full judgement until I see it. I was never a fan of the Anarchs myself, but vampire has always been classist/ageist, even from 1e terming the neonates as 'anarchs' within the Camarilla. There's a very 'build from aspects of 1e' angle in this version, which I'm okay with right now.

Any Ascension 5e news?

>>53272995
Your first example of what this is, is in the vampire mobile game. That game is all about rampant anarch embraces.

ELRICSSON TO REMOVE MAGE FOREVER

>>53273028

I haven't played that one. What's the game like?

>>53273023
Nothing. Mage is still a ways off, they said it'd be third in the group. There was something mentioned about 'how far AI has developed' and 'who controls the Technocracy' somewhere, but I don't have a source. I assume Authochthon has taken over the Technos, and the running assumption from the One World of Darkness teaser is that Mage is a very Matrix-esque conflict, with traditions terrorism vs. Technocractic Agency.

>>53273054
It's a shitty CYOA text game. The concept is, you're a newly Embraced vampire of really low gen (you take a couple of days to fully turn), and it's told through you interacting via text and other messages with others who were Embraced the same time as you. It's... very not good, as far as the content. But the big 'final villain' is apparently a Tremere, and there's a lot of Anarch embraces going on and talks about Elders disappearing. So it's like preview to the Anarch section, perhaps.

>>53273087

>really low gen

Did you mean really high gen?

Will mages still be ubermensch in 5e?

>>53273141
Yes. I have fucked that up EVERY TIME I have tried to type it today.

>>53273141
Yes, you're actually a thinblood iirc, as are most the characters.

It's insufferable, I really, really hate the protag and characters of that game and it's even worse because they're all basic bitch worthless thinbloods.

>>53273161
Will Mage still be the beefiest splat?

The answer is always going to be yes.

>>53273161
No
>Mummy masterrace

>>53271111
Honestly, the holy flame covered weapons and blessed armor that can turn bullets is enough for me. And hey, it looks like 2e is going to make it easier to make your own endowments anyways.

>>53273224
>implying Mummy will get a 5e (or would it be 3e for Mummy, then?) version

They said that the 'off culture' splats they won't do until they have someone native to those cultures and such to do them. So, no KotE or KotEK on the docket so far.

Of course, anything would be better than Animu Japan from Requiem 2e, so...

>>53267085
All of the other WW/OPP games. If you want regular action I'd wait for trinity continuum core book. Sounds right up your alley.

>>53273272

>anything would be better than Animu Japan from Requiem 2e

Elaborate, please.

>>53273371
Trinity will be using their new Storypath system, not normal Storyteller. There's a preview out for Scion using the system, which is... a little different, like they smashed Storyteller into FATE to see what stuck.

>>53256737
>>53259719
I have had two games with Hunters, one they pretty much just did their day jobs and occasionally fought the undead, with a slight hint of shaun of the dead. The second was in a mixed game, where despite being the only mortal, the hunter quickly became the second most powerful (combat marksmanship was pretty brutal) and the go-to guy for trying to figure stuff out as his streetwise and investigation were much higher than the rest of the party's

>>53273394
David Hill's treatment of Tokyo in Requiem 2e was very... it always read as a 'watched Japanese criminal movies/aniime and worked that into Requiem japan'.

>>53273635

Hang on, is David Hill that one guy who got owned by some Jap over on Twitter because he was complaining about how people who used word waifu were trash or something?

>>53273635
But hes white and lives in Japan clearly he must know what its like.

>>53273635
There's a Tokyo section in Requiem 2e? I thought only Mage had this luxury.

>>53273654
Yep

>>53273669
Does Hill really live in Japan?

>>53273674
All of the 2e lines were supposed to have a Tokyo entry due to DavidH's influence, IIRC.

>>53273703

...Really? Why is that? Why was this needed?

>>53273697
He does. He tweets sometimes about the weird superstitious grocery man he talks to, or the doctor four prefectures over for his kids, all the while constantly screaming about hyperleftist politics.

>>53273722

>has hyperleftist politics beliefs
>lives in Japan

Does he also complain about Japs being racist against his kids?

>>53273715
So Hill can get more money and inject more of his Communism into shit

>>53273703
I fucking hate PC culture and all the SJWs it entails.

Nearly as much as I hate weeb shit, and only because it's so fucking prevalent.

>>53273788
> it's so fucking prevalent

Exactly what ruins Tokyo for me.
It's so overused.

>>53273844
>>53273788
>>53273774
>>53273749
>>53273722
>>53273715
>>53273703
>>53273674
>>53273697
I wish the 2e Tokyo write ups were more like anime with super weeb characters.

So werewolf packs have favored prey, but they still hunt things from outside of that right? Like blood talons like hunting other werewolves, but those aren't always around, so they'll still kill spirits if there's nothing else to do right?

>>53273929

Fuck off to the pits of Tartarus, you fiend!

>>53273957
I believe so. But I think they have to go after their favored prey for the sacred hunt.

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>>53273929
>you will never have a mixed game that's an upbeat slice of life anime

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Can't wait for OPP's project after deviant. Feminist: The Oppressed

Bit stupid, but can a vampire drink the blood of a whale?

I'm asking this because in a game I'm running I see no other source of blood for a methuselah in the antarctic

>>53274233

>not bringing snacks

>>53274233
They can, but it's a halfsie deal without powers. You have to drink 2 points of blood to get 1 back from animals without special powers. And he's fucked if he has Methuselah's Thirst as a flaw.

>>53274233
They probably could yes, but can't high level vamps only feed from other vampires? The other more realistic option is getting servants to bring them food instead.

>>53274159
>muh gender privileges

>>53274124
>tfw literally have exactly that by converting my old RP group who don't really care about the game aspect too much.

>>53274293
That's the case in Requiem, not in Masquerade. Since he used the term Methuselah it sounds like he's talking Masquerade.

>>53274398
Methuselahs are also a Requiem thing.

Antediluvians and above are entirely Masquerade.

>>53274512
>>53274512
I haven't followed any Requiem for al ong time, didn't realize they were using more terminology like that.

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More on V5 combat:
It was one roll, and combatants damaged each other. Armour helped to reduce damage, No soak, no dodge, no damage roll. Damage was based on attack roll and weapon used. It was made clear that we were to expect much more development, but that this simplicity would remain a key focus. One roll whenever possible is a key design goal.

And a copy of the V5 character sheet!

>>53274233
>Bit stupid, but can a vampire drink the blood of a whale?

Yes.

In fact, many of the ocean-dwelling Gangrel Aquarii (Mariners) bloodline in WoD survive by drinking blood from (among other things) whales, dolphins, seals, manatees and the occasional fisherman or oil platform employee.

Seems like the key to surviving on a mostly animal diet (in WoD) is to spice it up with the occasional human blood, to make sure the Beast doesn't get too far out of control, since the longer it goes without human blood the harder it gets to control apparently.

So the Gangrel probably tend to drink whatever they can get their hands on (that's survival for ya).

>Insert "A whale is fine too.jpg" here.

>>53274626
I guess one roll could work if you're going for the gritty brutal combat from most of the horror/dark fantasy WoD comes from. I just don't like it because I like more complex systems, guess I should go for other systems really.

>>53274701
It seems to me like they're mining from NWoD, as the 'one roll for damage, armor reduces damage total' is the default in CofD2e.

>>53274275
>>53274661
>>53274293
Thanks for the replies, guys

>>53274626
Again with this one roll? Meeeeh.

>>53274626
Ugh that looks like a LARP sheet.

>>53274661
That's the goofiest thing I've heard.

>>53273788
Everyone does at this point

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>>53274124
god i hate you fucking people

I wish the other splat got a night horrors books. They're great fodder for unconventional story stuff, and I like using them in hunter.

>mage supremacy

So I have a weird question. Given that all but the most advanced mages are going to be using yantras to add to spellcasting pools, and each of those add a turn to the spellcasting if you spend the reach to cast immediately, are there some type of concentration rules? Like what happens if a mage gets distracted by something, or even straight up shot well casting a spell?

>>53278126
The strongest of Mages are only going to be using a single 5+ reflexive Yantra, possibly a 6+ Mudra.

There are no distractions, rather barely.

>>53278126
>Like what happens if a mage gets distracted by something, or even straight up shot well casting a spell?

That's only going to be a possibility if the mage in-question is using more than one Yantra.

>>53278126
You mean he gets shot while using his Yantras? Unless he stops, he's not inconvenienced.

However if he used the concentration Yantra, then shooting him while he's maintaining the spell is a smart move.

>>53278201
>there are no distractions
>A stripper is dancing on you, but you are able to cast a spell without penalties

mage confirmed virgins

at least vampires can enjoy themselves.

>>53278201
I know, you'll see I'm not talking about them if you read my post.
>>53278249
And that happens plenty at lower levels. Are there rules for it or do they just take the hit and keep casting?

>>53278276
Weaker mages aren't forced to use more than one Yantra either, anon.

>>53278276
Depends on the attack. This is a strange question.

>>53278324
I was just curious. Magic is done by forming the imagio in the mind and all that, so I wondered if something that makes it hard to think in normal circumstances interrupts that process or no.

>>53278375
It no doubt would, assuming there's more than one Yantra involved or specific ones which take multiple turns, like High Speech.

In general though mages will cast their magics fast enough to not be disturbed.

>>53278263
Mages are just too loyal to their werewolf husbandos.

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>still no non-game material with LaCroix as a character

I loved him in Bloodlines and want to see more, anyone else?

>>53278519
Create your own material anon, you can do it.

>>53278532
What would be interesting to explore? His days as a kine in Napolean's ranks? His early days in Europe or his exploits in America?

High School of Darkness

Vampires - Greasers
Werewolves - Jocks
Mages - Nerds
Changelings - Drama Club
Mummies - Ethnic kids
Promethean - Transfer Students
Beast - ???
Sin-Easter - ???
Demon - ???

>>53278519
LaCroix was specifically built for Bloodlines, he's not a pre-existing character. The only books he gets mentioned in are 'after the fact' books, like the mention of the Prince of LA getting blown up in the Gehenna novel. All of the characters except for Smiling Jack were built for the Bloodlines game, and have no other mention anywhere.

>>53278519

Probably because LaCroix is a baby faced manchild and a total fucking cunt?

>>53278675
>except for Smiling Jack

Becket as well.

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>>53278701
>baby faced manchild
>total fucking cunt

>>53278701
Go to bed Damsel

>>53278670
Change greasers to goth kids.

>>53278723
Yeah, Beckett too. I need to stop posting, I've been fucking up all day due to being sick.

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>>53278763

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>>53278263
>at least vampires can enjoy themselves.

You obviously have never partied with Seers.

>>53278909
Do the Exarchs send down Ochemata to have good times too?

>>53278909

Spoiler - The dude on the cross is a volunteer from Ashwood Abbey

Varg Vickernes' Werewolf: the Apocalypse.

Remember this post.

>>53278909

You've never really partied until you Awaken to the secrets of the universe, command reality with your will alone, oppress Sleeper monkeys for shits and giggles, and then wind down after a hard day of being a cosmic overlord by snorting magic cocaine off the ass of a vampire stripper. And that's only Monday...

>Good Times

>Join the Seers

>>53278670
Demon - Matrix enthusiast

>>53274626
Why does he have potence as a ventrue? Are they changing the discipline loadouts?

>>53279162
That I don't know. They talked about how some vampires had some unusual Disciplines; it was probably to get the roundabout of many Disciplines, as they said the playtest was only Ventrue and Toreador characters.

>>53279162
Potence is one of the easiest disciplines to learn and potentially everybody can have it.

>>53279232
Huh makes sense from a testing standpoint. Do we know if there are any changes in their abilitys asside from cost?

>>53279558
They rouse blood to heal, buff any attributes not just physical, and power disciplines. Apparently celerity doesn't do any extra actions any more in the pre-alpha version.

>>53279135
You forgot to turn her into a lawn chair when you get bored of her.

Why are these threads so dead lately?

>>53280156
No good recent releases. C20 is the closest and large swaths of the community just don't like Dreaming.

>>53278670
Beasts are the Elliot Rodgers

>>53278670
Demon - Computer Club
Beast - Trenchcoat Mafia

>>53280156
Combination of zero new releases and mage wank chocking the life out of them on both sides.

>>53280381
We've actually been burning through them at an astonishing rate. It's just dead right now.

>>53280411
Unfortunate that burning through them usually happens when the threads are like, 75% shitposting about this or that.
Threads need more lewd posting. Hell I'd take /pol/ posting over this stuff.

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>>53280513
Good idea. Have some VV.

>>53279895

>Not already having a throne made of werewolves you turned to silver and banging her into torpor for later use

>>53278670
>Beast
Drama-lit nerds.

>>53280513
I've been toying with the idea of writing super self indulgent smut with each of the splat types.

>>53280606
Goddamn Toreador and their oVamp Celerity.

>>53280156
Magefags, and Changeling the lost 2e is somewhere in a variant of hell until rose bailey is done with it. So we're only gonna be able to subsist on supplements until geist2e

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>>53280606

>>53274512
Requiem Methuselahs... The vaporware of the tabletop rpg industry

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>>53272552

>>53272552
I mean, by the lore of the universe, would that not fit?

>>53282189

I wouldn't know, I'm not an American, but I do know I'm fucking tired of seeing the online media keep bringing him up everywhere, all the fucking time.

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>>53280606

>doesn't have big tits

0/10

>>53272586

-High school slayers effective at slaying. One is the mayor's kid. The mayor makes generous deals with vamps and doesnt know what his kid is doing
-One clan stepping out of line and shitting everything up from the shadows. Blame the Sabbat
-Various fetch quests leading up to a cure for vampirism

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>>53282189
It's probably not a smart business decision to equate a president who may be popular with a plurality of your marketshare to pure fucking evil in polo shirts.

>>53282621
Okay, short answer: According to the elite concensus This wasn't supposed to happen but it did.

Long Answer: When people ask me who I blame for Donald Trump, I blame John Judis and Ruy Teixera.

"Wait, fucking who?" you might ask.

They're a pair of political scientists that predicted a permanent democrat majority to emerge due to demographic trends. Why would the Senate Majority Leader destroy the filibuster on appointees in 2013? It's because he never considered that he would be out of power again. He

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVT8JcDQ04

He said that on the floor of congress.

But political coalitions change and the republicans, with the defection of one traditionally democratic group and gains in others, was able to get enough votes in the right places to win the presidency in the house and the democrats ignored the fact that they've been dominating in down ticket races.

They were about to follow the election of the first black president with the election of the first female president.

This was not supposed to happen. Yet it did.

If you were a democrat that believed that the future belonged to your party and you went to bed on November 8th, 2016 before election results were fully in, you awoke on November 9th to discover that Donald Trump had killed your god.
>pic related

And they still haven't recovered from the fact that none of this was supposed to happen. They're living in a world that they told themselves, over and over again, was impossible.

>>53283061

Oh how stereotypical and cliché of you, anon.

>>53274626
>Physique
wonder what that is, and how it differs from Athletics.
>Expression replaced by Art
I can get behind this.
>Humanity still exists

What kind of entities are likely to get involved in manipulating important policians. Heads of state and so forth?
>Spirits of Parliament
>Seers of all stripes
>Powerful vampires with delusions of grandeur
Am I missing any important ones?

>>53283380
Ascended beings by way of Ochemata, such as the General.

The God-Machine would be another one.

>>53283421
Ochemata are as subtle as an aircraft carrier group.

>>53283421
Those are generally too subtle to be immediately relevant to players.
Sending an Ochemata to influence the President? About as subtle as landing a mystical helicarrier on the front lawn.

I would imagine both the Exarchs and the God-Machine have their own plans which invariably entangle the heads of state. However they're less likely to personally (or directly through a proxy) make their will felt in the Oval Office.

>>53272586
The sabbat is planning a siege of the city. Your players have found this out but they are stymied at every turn by a high level turncoat, perhaps even a member of the Primogen. They must not only warn the larger society of the camarilla but they must expose the turncoat.

>>53283380
Just about any supernatural type can go the way of direct political/economic power. See the beasts in that new supplement.

>>53283759
>See the beasts in that new supplement.
I'd honestly rather not.

>>53283773
Makes sense, but if they can pull it off anyone can. Well, maybe not werewolves, but just about anyone else.

>>53283822
Leave the woofs alone. They're doing their best.

>>53283829
No, the must be bullied. There's no other way

>>53283829
Hey I got nothing against them, they tear shit apart like few others can. It's just that living in the woods and tearing half spider monsters apart with your bear teeth doesn't work very well with the whole politics thing.

Werewolves are domestic animals and wouldn't dare disobey their Mage masters.

So, does anyone know what's going on with DaveB lately? Rich mentioned he's going through some "difficult times".

>>53281016
Having trouble thinking of sexy fun time scenarios for giest or demon though.

>>53284308

This meme again.

>>53284308
I got nothing aside from it's probably personal stuff. Death in the family maybe?

>>53284350

Not a meme.

http://theonyxpath.com/fenomenal-feline-fun-monday-meeting-notes/

>Dave Brookshaw has noted how he is juggling projects during a trying time for him, but you might have missed that.

>>53284361

Maybe. Can't help but be curious.

>>53283265

What's wrong with Humanity as a stat? With what you would replace it?

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>>53284404
>>Dave Brookshaw has noted how he is juggling projects during a trying time for him, but you might have missed that.

When did Dave mention he's facing trying times?

I'm a fan of Dave's work and most certainly wish him well, but if he's unable to get the work done, OPP should hire a co-developer like they did with Requiem or Dave should yield to others and focus on the clearly more important personal matters (he can still write for Mage even if he's not the developer). If Mage 2e is stalled (after over a year, Signs of Sorcery has been in development forever, Tome of the Pentacle is vaporware, and we still don't even know the name of the third supplement), I assume Deviant, Dave's other developer project, is effectively DOA.

>>53284753

Well, aren't you an impatient little cunt. You can fuck right off.

>>53284753

Fucking drop Deviant, that shit can wait, finish stuff that people will actuall play..

>>53284782

FU.

The supplements for Mage were announced ages ago and Signs of Sorcery has been near completion and in the development abyss forever. I fully understand and appreciate that Dave might be going through some personal problems, and I wish him the best of luck. However, if he cannot timely perform the responsibilities of developer of the line, he needs to get some help like Rose did with Requiem or Mage needs a new developer, whether on a temporary or permanent basis. This is a cold but inescapable fact. Dave's work on the nWOD and CofD has been beyond excellent, but Mage existed before Dave and it will continue to thrive after he's inevitably gone (although leaving as developer or sharing responsibilities doesn't necessary imply he would also have to stop writing).

In the unfortunate event that Dave's issues have not been resolved and Mage (and Deviant) are not back on track, things need to promptly change. It would be best the best thing for Dave, OPP, the Mage 2e line generally, and the fans who are eager to spend their money for more product. As Rich acknowledges, Mage 2e us languishing, and no matter the circumstances, no less during these uncertain times with WW/Paradox, it is bad for everyone.

Anyone got that V20 Dark Ages Companion pdf yet? I know it went out to backers last week.

>>53284827
>Fucking drop Deviant, that shit can wait, finish stuff that people will actually play.

I'm not sure that is a good idea. WW fans will pay good money for a whole new corebook / gameline, particularly with the expected Kickstarter, and further potentially expands the CofD fanbase.

Just look at Beast. It is an abortion of a game, yet its Kickstarter did very well despite all the controversy, supplements have been quickly released and purchased, and yet more are active n the pipeline. Just imagine what a new line that is actually *good* could accomplish for WW and OPP.

>>53284940
I absolutely loathe people like you.

I'm having difficulty opening the mega for Chronicles for some reason.
It goes to Decrypting Folder Data and then starts again over and over. Is there something wrong with the link?

>>53285040

Just checked both Mega archives, work fine for me. Someone else mentioned this recently for the oWoD stuff. You the same guy or different?

>>53285012
>I absolutely loathe people like you.

People who want Mage to thrive, OPP to survive, fans to timely get the products they were promised and believe Dave should focus on important matters before a ttrpg about wizards?

Here in the real world, choices need to be made and interests balanced. How does indefinitely waiting for Dave to resolve his personal matters before Mage can expand, to the extent it is still a problem, good for anyone, including Dave?

No one is remotely suggesting that Dave needs to be permanently put out to pasture. However, prudent business decisions need to be made. Requiem languished since Rose was stretched too thin, Rich hired a co-developer for Rose, and now supplements are back in production. Everyone wins. These types of fixes worked for Requiem, and if necessary, they can work for Mage.

>>53285149
Different, used to play WoD but haven't had a group in ages, gonna run a Chronicles game this weekend with almost no prep time.
I fixed it, sort of.
I'm running Requiem, besides the core book and clan books, and the covenant book for the covenant we're picking, what should I grab?
Oh I also picked up the Armory Reloaded.

>>53285012
Loathe people like who? People who expect a company to be professional about delivering their products?

So; thinking of doing a setting hack for V20;

Gist;

Tremere diablerized Haqim as opposed to Saulot, the assamites were all diablerized by Tremere's disciples. The Salubri find out about this and got all of the forces they can muster and pushed their shit in, foreseeing the trouble these upstarts would cause in the future. The Tremere are almost wiped out, The Salubri now have access to all the shit they had on Thaumaturgy at the time, even the Gargoyles.

The Salubri sit on Thaumaturgy and the Gargoyles for a long time, studying both, and trying to figure out a way to make the gargoyles able to Embrace.

When the Sabbat and Cam form, the Salubri join the Cam and the Tremere join the Sabbat (Shifting the blame of their experiments on to the Salubri with lies and deceit). The Salubri gave Thaumaturgy to the Cam (which is how most people were able to develop their respective thamaturgical paths and shit)

Gargoyles never were able to Embrace, they willingly serve the Salubri due to them treating them nicely.

It's 3am, i'm sick as a dog, couldn't sleep. If it seems incoherent blame that.

Also my plans for my C20 game (with some small alterations to the cosmology);

The players will be newly minted Knights Errant driving across a slightly less fucked California that still has a few places in dire need of Un-Fucking.

The players will pull in to Berkley where they'll be fighting ANTIFA/BAMN/etc with the serial numbers filed off, to save a couple of childlings and wilders. After that they'll have a plot hook where they find a very powerful Dreamer who's been in a coma and has been causing tears between the autumn world and the dreaming and letting out a bunch of nightmare creatures. Once they find the Dreamer they'll have to go in to her Dreamscape (a fucked up mansion that is slowly eating up the Dreaming) and set her free from her survivor's guilt and a powerful nightmare.

Shit I'm ripping off;
-Dream Drop Distance
-Alice: Madness Returns
-Digimon Season 3

>>53285744

You have to understand that you'd have to play revisionist a lot with Vampire history. The only reason why Tremere went after Saulot is because Saulot planned it and allowed for it. Tremere taking on the Assamite Antediluvian is highly unlikely to end in successful diablerie.

And the Salubri were never plentiful in numbers, it's why the newcomer vampires were able to hunt them to near extinction. Also, the issuue with the Salubri castes not acting united in the face of the Tremere threat.

>Salubri join the Cam

That makes no sense whatsoever. Why would the Salubri join Camarilla?

> Tremere join the Sabbat

Why would the Tzimisce allow the Tremere to join the Sabbat and not just finish what the Salubri started?

>>53285840
oh.

Basically i made this half assed idea to replace the tremere, give all clans the opportunity to learn thamaturgy, have the Salubri exist as a proper clan in the modern nigths.

I'm sick, can't sleep, and a bit miserable. I'm just killin time and trying to get my mind off my misery.

>>53285863
What about writing out Tremere? IMHO it would be easier to drop them out completly instead of switching places and such

>>53285863

It's okay, we all had "what if" ideas in regards to the settings we play in. Mine is a simpler one, such as what if the Salubri and Tzimisce united, really united, and wiped out the Tremere and the Ventrue who were supporting the Usurpers.

>>53285908
eh, didnt think about that. I don't like the assamites either.

But if the tremere go there must be a somewhat mystical clan to fill space, IMO

>>53285922
Keep Capadocians around make them sign up with Camarilla maybe?

>>53285964

Not him, but isn't there a conflict of interest there? Camarilla becomes all about denying even the existence of Antediluvians, and the Cappadocians are pretty tight with Cappadocius.

>>53285964
that could work. Is my c20 idea not to out there for the game?

>>53285972
they say Cappadocius is just an old as shit methuselah or elder?

>>53285987

But why would they do that in the first place?

>>53285972
Yup but this is all a sham isn't it? What with all the elders and metusselahs governing the cammarila. Many of them met anties in person. And Cappadocius faking his death and steering Camarilla from the shadows sounds fine imho.

>>53285994

IIRC, Cappadocius didn't give a fuck about that sort of shit. He was focused on finding a way to diablerize God so he could bring about heaven on Earth.

>>53285991
................

I dunno man I'm like half-asleep but cannot sleep

>>53286003
True but wouldn't Camarilla allow him a safe space to conduct his plans?

>>53247380
I'll be honest: the only thing I'm not liking so far is the "you are what you eat" thing

>>53274387
Do tell? I want to run this one day

>>53274387
I've played with this guy. Literally had Charlotte Dunois as an NPC, it was toxic to the max.

>>53286022
cappadocius was a fruitcake, his idea of heaven on earth is probably not 99% of the Camarilla's idea of heaven on earth, sure they might offer him a safe place to work, but then why would he trust them, its not like somebody tries to swoop in steal his work, or copy it later now is it..oh wait.

>>53285863
>give all clans the opportunity to learn thamaturgy

Nigga what? This is masquerade. If you give away the candy store, you will come to regret it.

Are there premade adventures for oWOD VTM?

I'm an intermediate GM doing mostly cthulhu who wants to start playing VTM but unfortunately im not confident enough with how storytelling in vtm works + im not deep enough into reading the actual v20 rules to make my own adventures

Advice appreciated

>>53272553
Still looking for assistance if anyone could help me out, I would sincerely appreciate it.

>>53287327
Depends on how premade you want them.

There are a lot of them but most of them will only provide the basics and leave most of the work to you

>>53287327
Yes. The most up to date ones will be found in Nights of Prophecy. A good one to jump over to from CoC is the one contained in Milwaukee By Night. It sets the stage for the rest of the City Book so you can just jump right in.

>>53287327
could try a collaborative effort with us autists; what's the setting? Who're the PCs?

>>53287750
I'd like something that just introduces me to how you'd gm a masquerade game and my players to the world of darkness

I've read a lot on the wiki and i've played through bloodlines like 6 times so i think im familiar with the universe at least
>>53287769
Thanks i'll check that one out!
>>53287778
Setting will probably be around 2000~ a year or two before Gehenna

One guy wants to play a Malc, another guy wants to play a Toreador or a Ventrue and i've got no idea what the last guy wants to play

>>53287805
forgot to say that they'll probably play newly embraced fledgelings - i can get them more familiar with how stuff works that way

>>53287805
>>53287821
What city? And are the players looking for more combat or more political intrigue and roleplaying?

>>53287918
Im not sure about the city

One guy suggested chicago but im not sure yet

I don't think they're into combat at all

>>53287970
Milwaukee By Night. The intro adventure has the players investigating a murder without going into too much detail.

>>53287998
Thanks!
Readan and hopefully it'll be fun

>>53287372
Have you ever seen 'person of interest'?

Idea for a Mystery for a Mage game.

If asked what direction the queen faces on the coinage 88% of people will incorrectly say left.

>>53288119
In America all the good coins face left.

>>53263632
Where would Promeatheans fall on that list?

>>53287805
here

How do i best handle the sireing of my players characters?

Do i make it so that theres an coterie of vampires that gets the right to embrace or do i make it so that they dont ask the permission of the prince and get executed?

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>>53285863
>give all clans the opportunity to learn thamaturgy

That's already a thing in V20 (Rites of the Blood), though it's usually restricted to Anarch communities (either Anarch baronies, or just sizable Anarch gangs in Cammie territory), and of course, those Anarch mentors will never have the resources and knowledge that the Tremere can boast of.

Basically, Thaumaturgy was a thing loooong before the Tremere entered the scene; they just categorized it, learned as much as they could, memorized it and did their best to burn down all the other links to blood magic so that they could claim to be "ZE BEST IN ZE WORLD!" and get rid of any would-be competitors.

They couldn't kill (or find) all the other practitioners of Thaumaturgy however, even excluding the wielders of more remote magic like Dur-an-Ki and Koldunic Sorcery.

So, in the modern era, when the Anarchs began to gain greater headway and their numbers and territory started to increase and the Camarilla (and by extension the Tremere) lost ground, some of those long-lost secrets began to resurface, and of course some of the newer vampires found out they had a knack for it (or just discovered blood magic on their own through trial and error).

The Tremere of course tried to crack down on it, but the rest of the vampires promptly gave the Tremere the finger and said "Deal with it, faggots" because everybody knew the Tremere was just trying to screw everyone over so they could have a thaumaturgical monopoly again.

So now the Tremere just do their best to espouse their superior knowledge about blood magic (which, for the record, is actually factual), and also engineer situations in which Anarch sorcerers screw up majorly, often in public or after they get hired by influential Kindred to do a minor ritual. So the Tremere slowly but surely make the Anarchs out to be third-rate blood magicians and amateurs, while of course making sure everybody remembers that the Tremere are skilled and always open for business.

>>53289564
Maybe one of them, to have an entire coterie be stupid enough to embrace without getting permission is bit too far

>>53288078
Nope.

>>53289564
Why wouldn´t their sires ask for permission to embrace?
Anyway, keep in mind the possibility of making your PCs failed shovelheads.

Can hardly wait for Prince Donaldius Trumpius of Clan Ventrue vow to Make the Camarilla Great Again, and to build that Wall, only in V5!

>>53289888
Can the Wall really keep the Sabbat away from us?

>>53289975
Well, seeing the bullshit they pulled in Frisco 15 years ago, with a Tremere magic wall that burned any Kuei Jin that tried to cross it, I don't see why they can't recycle this storyline.

>>53290016
Yeah, but where´s the money to pay the Tremere coming from? I know Prince Donaldius said he would take the money from the thinbloods, but is it going to be enough?
Tremere are greedy as fuck, you know.

>>53290070
Don't worry, his childe-in-law is a Tremere, and he counts several others as personal friends

>>53289689
Watch a couple episodes. I'm almost certain the show heavily influenced the development of the game.

>>53284753
>>53284940
>>53285181
Oh god you're fucking revolting.

>>53290247
Agreed. Nothing like swapping devs mid book to fucking ruin it.

Why are people trying to start shit about Dave?

>>53289975
It can if it's a wall of sunlight

>>53290328
It's just one impatient idiot. No biggie.

>>53284959
Anybody got it? It's out already.

>>53290376
All I want is a city without dirty thinbloods, greedy Tremere, Assamite rapists and SJW Brujahs. Is that too much to ask?
Oh, and no Nosferatu. They smell.

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>>53290556

>Oh, and no Nosferatu. They smell.

In V5 the only thing that the Nosferatu will offend is your sense of fashion.

>>53290725
This is v5 nosferatu concept art mate?

>>53290725
Can´t wait for V5, it´s going to be even worse than Beast.

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>>53290783

Yeah, it's from the WoD 2017 Berlin presentation.

This is Ventrue.

>>53290809
But will it be more or less tone deaf when the writers are intentionally being edgy instead of just not realizing they wrote the groups they support as awful because their heads are too far up their own ass?

>>53290850
Hmm Nosferatu ones I find ok. Never been a fan of the way they all looked like count orlock in VtM and was happy when VtR dumped that.

Ventrue on the other hand look plain weird to me

>>53290894
Hard to know.
Those fuckers working at V5 do act like they are creating the next Mona Lisa, so I´m betting on them.

>>53278670
>Beast - ???
Social Justice Club

>>53290247
What's so revolting about it?

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>>53290908

Could be worse. Never doubt that for a second when it comes to WW.

How does the Masquerade exist if theres territories controlled by the sabbat?

Shouldnt news networks and social media spread the word of vampires existing with the sabbat being so obvious in their presence?

>>53291651

>How does the Masquerade exist if theres territories controlled by the sabbat?

Because the actual (True) Sabbat doesn't want to break the Masquerade. It's just bullshit propaganda to be spread to the basic grunts.

>>53291651
Magic.

>>53290850
>how should we visually represent the ventrue?
>nosebleeds! NOSEBLEEDS AND PRISON BARS!
>genius

>>53292079
Well theres still vampire grunts healing shotgun shots and shit im sure thats enough to breach the masquerade

>>53292141

Clearly that's just one of those crazies on PCP.

>>53292159
You ever notice how on youtube and liveleak all those crazies on PCP have fangs and drink blood?

>>53292213
I wish the average live leak video was high enough resolution to make out teeth.

>>53292213

PCP's a helluva drug.

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Is it just me or does the Kindred Fighting Style: Riding the Wave perfect for a Dragon learning the Mystery of the Wyrm?
Stir the Beast to give it a target, then Ride the Wave of your willing frenzy.

Am I the only one who is put off by this art style they're going for with Vampire? For some it's not so bad, but for others, it's bad. And I'm not even getting a fun vibe from it. I feel like their heads are planted between their knees and they're taking great big snorting whiffs of their own farts, going "Naked sad guy with a blonde bowl cut with a nose bleeding into a wine class? Brilliant!"

>>53292392

>Am I the only one who is put off by this art style they're going for with Vampire?

Of course not. I doubt many people will be pleased by their decision to use photographs, photoshopped/manipulated/whatever, instead of actual artwork. Aside from the LARPers.

So, how is V20 DA Companion?

>>53292375
I'd say so. Perhaps a Gangrel of the Brujah bloodline.

>>53284753

I can't imagine Dave is just sitting on his thumbs. He's a good guy. It would be nice to get an update now and then, though. Signs of Sorcery hasn't moved in the list for a year now and it'd be nice to actually know why.

>>53292873
Nice samefagging

>>53292993
I agree with that anon. Is this samefagging too? I've asked a couple of times, but nobody has answered. What's so horrible about not being perfectly okay with a product taking forever to be released?

>>53274124
Try a cross splat soap opera then we're talking

Bread for the bread god
>>53293636

>>53291516
fucking lost it at the drawing on the far right
>Upper half Axl Rose
>Lower half Brokencyde