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>Pressed Or Toasted edition

>Da Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTLod_lrNlw

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!z4wmmJyR!jTfwLczhdFjV0q6nowtGag!qgZhmAhK

>40k rules reference in wiki format.
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW FAQs.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>8th edition FAQ:
https://warhammer40000.gw-hub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/New-Edition-of-40K-FAQ.pdf2

previous thread >>53150274
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It is I, Grimaldus, best chaplain in the galaxy!

CONFESS YER SINS SO THAT YOU MAY BE PURGED!
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>>53154088

>worshipping the Emperor
>being the shame of Rogal Dorn
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Soon gitz. Soon.
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Ready for Guard to be top tier for months until they release updates for Marines and Eldar.
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Kitting out an assault squad, any thoughts on what I should give the Sergeant?
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So if i won't be able to attach a Character to a unit in Newhammer, what will that mean for Characters like Saguinary Priests and Crypteks who only exist to buff other units? Will their rules be bubbles? WHo the fuck would be dumb enough to put something like that out in the open even if you can't shot it when there are other models closer?
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>>53154115
>The girl is playing tyranids
realistic
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I hope Ethereals are worth taking in 8e. It sucked that they were literally free victory points for your opponent in 7th
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>>53154121
Theyre all getting updates at the same time dummy
Whoever is the first to get new battletomes will be cheese
The cycle of power creep will begin again
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So what are you guys doing today? I just finished a game where I got tabled by a land raider full of inquisition and 2 assassins
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Are there any Raven/Raptor formations?

Black Templars: same question?
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>>53154140
Might work like Apothecaries in 30k, you buy them and must be instantly attached to another unit and cant leave it.
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>>53154155
Theyre better than taking fireblades currently

>>53154161
Jesus what was his list and yours?
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Reminder that boys who aren't girls are getting tossed out of helicopters when 8th drops.

Start popping those hormones and start collecting Tyranids girls (males).
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>>53154140

They'll probably have bubble effects.
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>>53154168
>Black Templars

No specific formation that boosts their chapter tactic, Raven Guard get a whole bunch of them.

Formations are going out in a month though.
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>>53154155
Ethereals were awesome. Yeah losing one was shit, but the buffs outweighed this imo.
>tfw 4 Pulse Shots with Fireblade and Ethereal

4th Edition Ethereals though... Hoo boy.
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>>53154178
>better than taking fireblade
Not at all in my experience. Every time I've used an Ethereal it does literally nothing, but my fireblades usually cheese-graters at least a blob or two of infantry
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>>53154178
He had a vindicare, the anti psyker one with the skull, and a land raider with 6ish deathwatch dudes with various power weapons, a priest, an inquistor, 5 acolytes and 2 monkeys.
I had 21 conscripts with 2 priests, 2 ten 10 man infantry squads, 3 missile launchers, pcs in a chimera, ccs in a chimera, a demolisher , an enginseer, vets in a chimera.

The only thing that could hurt the land raider was 2 melta guns, a lascannon and 3 missile Launchers.

Was fun though

Pic related before the slaughter.
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Can an Ordo Malleus =I= get Terminator armor *and* and Incinerator? The wording in Imperial Agents is ambiguous on this.

Looking for an excuse to buy pic-related.
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PLASTIC SISTERS ARE HERE!
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>>53154176
>>53154182
I'm hoping Character is a keyword reserved for what are unique ICs now and that non-unique ICs are no longer Characters and can still be added to units. I wonder what it means for Characters that are already part of units, like Sergeants or Exarchs, for example.
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>>53154232
isn't that grishnak minis or however the fuck u spell it

shit looks good
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>>53154256
>Russian-only site
>No buzz since May 16 https://spikeybits.com/2016/05/grishnaks-new-plastic-sister-models-we-update.html

Around Ivan, never relax!
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>>53154201
With the changes to FRFSRF and orders being automatic, I wouldn't be surprised if those effects got a similar treatment and made Pulse rifles Rapid fire 2.
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What airbrush do you guys use?
I'm looking for a cheapo one but I don't trust these ebay chinks
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>>53154232
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>>53154232
New Repentias leaked!
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Is using 2 stormtalon gunships in 1500 cheese
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>>53154290

Nice Eschers (seriously, I'm looking for minimally porny Not!-Tank Girl models for my post-apoc Only War army) but MALIFAUX is way out of scale for 40k.
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>>53154221
>>53154161
>snow tables
Your store has some patrician taste at least, especially for having so much terrain. Seems like every pic from the tabletop on here is the same little grassy field with a small building on two corners and some hills on the other two corners.
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>>53154290
Those look like garbage.

Every time I think some of the new GW sculpts are crap, people post this third party stuff and remind me how GW are actually still the best just because everyone else is so much fucking worse.
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>>53154336
Seconded. Snow tables are the absolute fucking best tables.
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>>53154337
To be fair, those Russian not!SoB minis posted earlier look about on par with GW's quality standard. Most third-party minis DO look like shit though.
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WHAT'S GOOD NIGGA?
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>>53154336
Yeah I fucking love snow tables.
Shame because usually there's a city and aos table on, and you gotta swap the tiles out, but it's worth it
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>>53154368
Well great, now that song's stuck in my fucking head.
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>>53154368
There's a Morrowind table top game now?
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>>53154088
RECHLUSIARCH PROTECT US FROM NOT ONLY THE ENEMIES' WEAPONS BUT ALSO THE TEMPTATIONS OF CHAOS AND THE FILTHY XENOS THREAT INFESTING OUR EMPEROR'S GALAXY.
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>>53154317
Had you try our lord and savior Brother Vinni?
He has a Not! Fallout section too. Evan a Not! Cain Comissar.
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You are granted one wish to modify anything in the 40k line.
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>>53154501
The Stormsurge is now a superheavy Grav tank
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>>53154501
Swarmlord is not a unique character and all its fluff is completely rewritten.
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>>53154501
Add Great Horned Rat.
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>>53154444
I want my Land Raider stats already, dammit.

Nice quads.
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>>53154501
Lizardmen get ported to 40k.
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>>53154501
Everything is in plastic
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Aeldari > fartartes
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>>53154500
I would buy the fuck out of brother vinni or grishnak stuff but I feel like if I tried to play at GW they'd kick me out.

God damn it I just want real plastic sisters
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>>53154501

All Marines turned traitor in the HH.
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>>53154115
You forgot the "Turn 360 degrees and walk away"
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>>53154501
True sale marines
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>>53154161
Working on my Kasrkins that I run as Veterans, in preparation to run them at things with shotguns and Yarrick in 8th.

I wish I'd made a snow map instead of a city one, but it's too late now.
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>>53154501
A set of sprues for the guard that is coats, body armor, and catachan. So then we can have cadian, catachan, steel legion, vahallan, and Krieg

Better video game screening for GW so then we can have good 40k videogames
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>>53154227
>Looks at model

They can't.
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>>53154500

Nice. It's a SH tank regiment so I only need a few anyways.
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>>53154317
TGG Jailbirds
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>>53154501
chaos get grav
(on anything I dont care)
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>>53154567
We are getting a GW franchise in SA. Seller price (30% ish less since we don't give a fuck) freedom of a store that does not care from who you bought your shit. Coffee shop crossing the street, beer in the store.
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>>53154501
Tau have cooler looking heads.
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>>53154623
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>>53154623
>"Minimally porny"
>Anything by Raging Boners

Oh, annon, I'm so sorry...
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>>53154637
Then they wouldn't really be Tau, now would they. One less way to shit all over them is one less thing that makes them Tau.
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>>53154638
One day I'll make 10 dude squad for each classical IG regiment and some random shit like that for conscript blobs
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>>53154649
Jailbirds aren't particualrly porny unless you're really worried about boobs in shirts or exposed midriffs. About the same as GW Eschers. We aren't talking about their Lust Elves here.
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Hammer of Olympia isnt in the mega, is it? Cant find it.
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>>53154501
More models with carapace armour besides Scions. And/or having slight rules differences between different guard factions (tallarn, krieg, cadia, etc.)
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>>53154678

Yeah, looks like they expanded their line since I looked at them.
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>>53154501
A new great WAAAAAGH is started by someone other than Ghazghkull.
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>>53154638
Can the poses on these models get ANY more utterly retarded? They make squatting marines look positively artistic.
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For proper, codex adhering heraldry for scout marines, its the chapter on the left pauldron and then their squad number on the right, and thats it? Correct?
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>>53154735
Infinity dynamic posing master race!
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>last tournament
>dude that always comes with his 8-year-old kid doesn't "play himself" today but his son "plays"
>it's obviously fucking Tau
>Riptide, Ghostkeel, 2 Pathfinder teams, 2 normal suits, a Commander in a normal suit and 10 Marker Drones
>he does all the thinking, son just moves models and rolls die and shittalks non-stop
>complains how bad his rolls are when he needs a 3+
>stomps everyone except the Smashfucker player

It's cute that he always has his son with him and all that but god dammit that still was unfun as fuck to play against and annoyed the shit out of me.

Even the dad said that he hates playing as or against Tau, hates what they stand for in the setting and only has them because his son likes their mechs.
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>>53154543
For real I would start a Vostroyan army in a heartbeat if they weren't all metal models.
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>>53154161
Just finished my Legion of the Damned Company Champion. I wish the lighting in my apartment was cooperating so I could get a better picture.
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12 wound, 3+ save russes. Praise the emperor.
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>>53154759
Same. Give us Vostroyan plastics from the same sculptors who did Skitarii and I'll be in heaven.
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>>53154336
My lgs has terrain building days we have before Saturday afternoon escalation. It's bretty gud.
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>>53154501
Slaanesh gets squatted.
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>>53154559
This is fucking weak. You should really feel bad.
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>>53154851
>And thus, the first real 8th edition memes began.
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Despite the real possibility of getting nothing but shitposting for asking this, do we know the numarines will be their own unit, or is it possible that they're just going to replace the current space marine models, and robootie making numarines is just a in-universe reason for GW to stop selling non true-scale marines?
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>>53154851
He could already pick characters out of units without restriction so it's not like much has actually changed.

Really the new character rules hardly effect characters themselves, they just prevent them from being abused to be invincible living shields that stand in front of glass cannon units, like a Tech-Priest in a squad of Skitarii.
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>>53154890
Nobody knows yet.
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>>53154444
I might actually have to dust off my IG.
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>>53154115
That's okay, Brittany is a pie-faced hag
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>haven't played 40k in literally 10 years
>come back to have a look because new edition buzz plus DoW3
>think of starting again
>browsing armies and models on thier website
>like half the models are the exact same from when I played still
What exactly has GW been doing this last decade?
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>>53154896
Being able to pick off the weaker utility characters is a pretty big deal.
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>>53154890
They will be a new unit, possibly a whole new set of units. Gw's new promo material for the new edition shows classic space marines in their painting guides, so I don't expect them to be discontinued so, though I don't see new units of their size anytime soon either.
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>>53154501
New plastic Emperor's Children models.

Updated Noise Marines and Lucius at least.
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>>53154949
And Vindicares could always do that.
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>>53154941
The other half?
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>>53154941
making whole new half-factions nobody asked for.
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>>53154509
be still, my beating heart. That would be a billion fuckin times cooler than that dumb ass walker. Plus I love the idea of having big and small versions of their heavy shit like the Riptide and Crisis Suits, Ghostkeel and Stealth Suits, then a Hammerhead and a Stormsurge.
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>>53154964
I mean in general. Vindicare is probably going to change pretty drastically anyway.
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>>53154968
Ad Mech and GSC have been asked for forever.
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>>53154951
That's happening eventually, alongside Fulgrim and probably some brand new thing.
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>>53154951
Fuck, just update Chaos
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Could you guys post Pictures from Boards you've played on (Or just pictures from the games)? What did you like about them?

This is the one in my basement, and I'm looking for ideas.
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>>53154140
>put unit in the middle of a donut shaped squad, and now cant be shot out by convensional weapons until the mooks die and has to be specially targetted
wow so hard
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>>53154986
>some brand new thing.

Slaanesh incarnate!.
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>>53154984
This. Of all the things GW has done wrong the past decade, releasing AdMech and GSC was sure as shit not one of them, probably the best moves they've made in ages.
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>>53154980
>Implying

You have more hope in GW than I, guess you might be younger than me
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>>53154980
I think he will still get 3 profiles for his gun.
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>>53154501
>>53154951
This, a year ago it might have been plastic sisters but Raging Heroes scratched that itch. Meanwhile 3rd party Noise Marines are all pretty underwhelming so far.

>>53154986
>>Demon prince Fulgrim
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>>53154501
Proper Imperial Fists or Salamanders models
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>>53155000
We shall call this manoeuvre; "Cream Pie"
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>>53154501
Official Blood Ravens rules
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>>53154986
Going by the current format- Noise Marines and Lucius get updated, Fulgrim gets a model, new noise terminators and some sort of slaanesh cultist are added, and a Slaanesh chaos lord with an option for a steed are likely to come.
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So, are we guessing that Angron and Khorne update is coming after Mortarion and Death Guard, or Fulgrim and ECs first?

The hints in Gathering Storm seemed to indicate Fulgrim would be first but now all this sudden focus on Armageddon makes me think they actually will save Slaanesh for last as usual.
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>>53154743
Yes, scouts have no company marking so you are correct.
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>>53155006
I just don't see the point in being pessimistic. If GW fucks it up I'll just move on.

>>53155012
The general increase of wounds means he needs a buff to stay relevant.
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>>53154976
Yeah. Personally, I could tolerate some of the Tau's giant robots, but the Stormsurge just looks so fucking stupid on top of making no sense.

Give me a big tank with a big fuckoff railgun any day.
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>>53155041
I don't think the format is that set in stone, since it looks like Death Guard aren't going to quite match up with Thousand Sons that precisely - they're getting a Plague Drone model and I don't think they have a mounted Lord.
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>>53154951
>Mfw I'm the original artist of that
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>>53155049
Maybe he will have high rend and multi wound?
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>>53155049
They have been fucking up since 4th, 5th was turbo mode.

And let's not talk about their specialist and WHF
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>>53154941
>half the models are the same
And there's all the new models in the other half!
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>>53154998
That's a pretty nice board, anon.
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Guys, im actually getting hyped for 8th what the fuck.

>>53154941
>>haven't played 40k in literally 10 years
>>come back to have a look because new edition buzz plus DoW3

Are you me?
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This is just a friendly reminder that now all Punisher Leman Russes come with free rending.

They better have nerfed it's fire rate because I don't care how expensive that is, that is freaking nuts.
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>>53155071
Yeah their bad decisions have been complained about to death, I really don't care about hearing them anymore. If it's deal breaking just move on, there's plenty of competition these days.
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>>53154998
Here's the garage table with a little less terrain than usual. It was a very enjoyable game of my GK vs IG.

1/2
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>>53155112
>Punisher Leman Russes come with free rending

???
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>>53154951
That will never happen because Slaanesh is getting squatted.
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>>53155112
In what sense? I haven't seen anything about the punishers statline.
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>>53155112
>tfw Fleshborer Hives are now worth taking
20 bolt pistols are ok
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>>53155060
Oh? Is there anything new to see? I'm simply basing my knowledge off the dg trailer so I dunno.
>no nurgle palanquins
RIP DG players. Poor fellows
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>>53154998
>>53155122
And from our 40k vs 40k apoc game. FUCK THAT SHIT. NEVER AGAIN HOLY SHIT. We unanimously agreed to never do one that big again. We(right side of image) lost by 1 fucking point.
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>>53155128
>>53155130
They can wound anything on a 6. But no ignoring armor so it's more like gauss
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>>53155138
Just rumours so take with salt. Also there MIGHT be a Nurgling Palanquin.

I guess after we get some solid confirmation on what the Death Guard release entails we'll know whether we can expect the pattern to stay the same for Khorne and Slaanesh or if each one will have something slightly different. Personally I would rather they all be a little bit asymmetrical.
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>>53154501
tyranids with better looking ranged weapons.
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Are there any other chapters besides the Black Templars that worship the emperor as a god?
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Aeldari > Autistus Astartes
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>>53155139
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!?

FFS Commissar Warwick did a 50,000 points TOTAL game that lasted DAYS! I don't even know how your game was resolved without someone at the table dying of old age!
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>>53155206
We got to the end of turn 3 at 4AM. We started at noon the previous day. We called it there after people started dropping.
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>>53155203
Howling Griffons and Red Hunters.
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>>53155206
Peanuts. Our local warhammer community did a apocalypse battle to celebrate the end of a year long campaign that was 72000 points total. Alright, it was 3000 points per person, but still. We set everything down in an evening, and finished the game on the next day.
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>>53155112
You're over reacting. Shooting at another russ/SM dread:
20 shots
10 hits
3.333 wounds
1 failed save
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>>53155196
Most of them look okay. The only really bad offender is the Fleshborer with its dumb fleshy "magazine".
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>>53155139
>Painted Tau
>unpainted Nids and Guard
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>>53155203
>>53155220

Fire Angels are Imperial Cult as well.
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>>53155253
>We did a 5000 points per person.
>12 per side
>We are from SA.

First world are you ok? Do you need money for proper apocalypse games?
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>>53155085
Thank you.

>>53155122
That High Building is such an advantage, thought on a table that small IG might need that kind of help.

I like it. I've definitely seen worse Garagehammer Maps.

>>53155139
holy shit nope. nope nope nope.
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>>53155275
They're my Tau.

Granted, the Guard guy is away at college most of the year, so he only gets to paint in the summer or whenever he comes back for a few days.
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>>53154501
Jervis spontaneously combusts, Alessio wins the design studio civil war back in 5th.
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>>53155188
Yeah. Well, just hope that the other legions get some cool new toys like the ones I'm enjoying, regardless of if it follows a certain format exactly or not. I don't want to be the only one getting nice new things.
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>>53155289
it was a 30k apocalypse game with mostly FW resin models, all armies started a year ago and most fully, or at least almost, painted
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>>53155323
I mean it's basically confirmed all four Cult Legions are getting a release on that level.
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>>53155337
Yeah. I'm actually quite excited to see what all is released for them. If only my non-cult legion friends got some cool new things too
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>>53155364
>non-cult
>getting anything
>ever

Oh lawd
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>>53155203
Steel Confessors worship him as the Omnissiah.
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>>53155364
The most I would ever expect non-cult legions to get would be Iron Warriors getting rules for 30k Legion artillery from forgeworld
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>>53155364
Can't wait to see all the cult terminators for the other three chaos god aligned chaos marines.

Except if the Slaanesh ones get gaint tits and dicks. Then I'll take a pass on those.
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>>53155265
>>53155112
Hell lets do the H.Bolters
Assuming all three can get a clear shot and AP -1
9 shots
4.5 hits
1.5 wound
.75 failed save

So a Russ with Punisher and three H.Bolters will average 2 wounds on hard vehicles and MCs. You'd probably be better off with multi meltas and a different main cannon for tank hunting.

Next up Vendettas, because why not.
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>>53155336
We did ours outside under the rain. Because back then we didn't had a big enough enclosed place to play that size of a game.

We ended soaking wet since we use our umbrellas and jackets to cover the table. But it was an Imperial victory
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>>53155384
What if Iron Warriors get their own, daemonically possed artillery ?
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>>53155370
I know, it's quite unlikely. Just feel it would be nice for my buds.
>>53155389
I'm pretty sure it'll all be really cool- including Slaanesh ones. They'll probably look like real bulky noise marines if anything.
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Man i hope that flamer and heavy flamer squads will be twice as viable now if not then my entire blood angels army is going to have to redesigned.
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>>53155389
Nah, maybe faces stretch on the outside, teticle arms, and some other crazy shit but GW will lay off the genitals.
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>>53154759
http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Infantry-Heads-Helmets/ushanka-visor

http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Infantry-Heads-Helmets/ushanka-gasmask

http://anvilindustry.co.uk/Regiments/Infantry-Heads-Helmets/ushanka

They also have decent torsos to use with it, but if you go to GW stores then they won't allow you to use whole models without GW plastic. You can still headswap in GW stores though.
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>>53155389
I'm expecting Amp/speaker shoulder pads, ideally with Sonic blasters on each arm
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>>53154984
KDK wasn't asked for but I love em so whatever. Daemons and CSM should always work together.
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>>53155421
I'd be okay with those autocannons and flamers to be really good. Because I'm too lazy to paint the other options, despite magnetized arms and telling myself that I'll do it someday.
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>>53155411
I wouldn't count on it. Maybe special rules for vindicators and defilers.
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>>53155428
>>53155389

I want more Sigvald style stuff. Pretty and shit. If they released stuff like that and plastic Noise Marines. I'd probably pick up some Slaanesh Marines.
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>>53155421
Just imagine shooting Hand Flamers or Inferno Pistols in close combat. Other than that, I'm with you. However, on day one, I'm fielding all of my 9 of my various BA Dreadnoughts at once. Because fuck it, that's why.
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>>53154501
The cost of everything is reduced to being actually reasonably priced.
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>>53155391
>>53155265
Vendetta firing 3 TW Lascannons at a Leman Russ tank/SM dread:

3 shots
2.25 hits
1.5 wounds
1.25 failed saves
4.4 damage

Much better and it can still pack two H.Bolters in the side doors.
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>>53155491
>9 Dreadnoughts
BATTLEBROTHER OF MINE
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>>53155467
When Fulgrim gets a mini, Slaanesh will have the absolute most handsome, snaky model in the game bar none.

[spoilee]I actually wish GW would play up the serpent/snake theme with Slaanesh a bit more like they do with birds in Tzeentch. It'd give their daemons a more unified theme and plays up the whole temptation idea.[/spoiler]
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>>53155491
Hey now you dont even need to build a list around it since you can just play it in the freeplay mode with no points.
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>>53155524
9 DINOBOTS
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>>53155431
Yeah the only store I know nearby is a GW one, so I gotta be careful about how much 3rd party I mix in, but thank you! I'll look into mix and matching.
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>>53155524
>>53155549
60 Multi-Meltas!
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>>53155467
I can dig it. Maybe a beautiful swordsman unit that have less of the freaky shit going on. Could still have weird options on the sprue, like normal handsome heads and stretched out demonic heads.

>>53155529
It would be a great way for them to play down nudity/sex in the line and make it more family friendly (Not my preference but I can see why GW is doing it)
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>>53155524
Damn straight. I'm going to borrow my friends Pods to supplement my own so the all come down in style. Shit will be so cash.
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>>53155549
GRIMLOCK SAY ME KING
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>>53155570
No no, I just want some tittysnakes. Daemonettes look retarded with the whole crab claw and tentacle hair thing goin on. Give me a snake with some tits.
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>>53155452
KDK doesn't even count as a real faction because it has zero (0) unique models, it's just a different way of combining existing models from other lines with a couple new rules.

Mark my words in 8th edition "Khorne Daemonkin" won't be a thing anywhere outside of the fluff, however you'll probably still be able to play with the Blood Tithe as long as you follow certain restrictions like taking all Khorne units (both CSM and Daemons) in a Detachment.

So it will exist but no longer require a separate faction name to distinguish it.
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>>53154998
Stores SW:A table
The other two feet are in progress lol
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>>53155522
>a vendetta can no longer even one-shot a Dreadnought
Things are looking up for vehicles this edition.
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>>53155604
>Mark my words in 8th edition "Khorne Daemonkin" won't be a thing anywhere outside of the fluff, however you'll probably still be able to play with the Blood Tithe as long as you follow certain restrictions like taking all Khorne units (both CSM and Daemons) in a Detachment.
Wouldn't even mind honestly. As long as I can take daemons and marines while using blood tithe it won't bother me in the slightest. Blood tithe was a fucking brilliant idea on GW's part.
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>>53155612
Damn I wish my LGS went that all out on our boards. The most we get is hand-me-down terrain from customers who don't use it anymore.
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How am I supossed to run my Khorne Berzerkers now that units can fall back, split fire and shoot heavy weapons after moving? Why even keep assault in this game at this point?
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>>53155415

Nah, we're going to get a translation of our legion rules, and then we'll be 100% forgotten in favor of the far more marketable cult legions. As shitty as it is, I can't blame them really.
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>>53155620
It can still one shot it, there's a potential for 12 damage there.
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>>53155649
Supposedly they're getting mega-buffed.

Also you can assault out of rhinos now.
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>>53155639
All Khorne armies should have Blood Tithes to be honest. There was nothing in the KDK fluff that forbade any other Khorne faction from summoning Daemons to the battlefield, considering the fact that all they really had to do was kill and die.
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>>53155639
Well there was a rule called Blood for the Blood God namedropped in the chaos space marine faction focus article ... Sadly the name is all we know
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>>53155667
Oh right. I forgot we were just looking at averages.
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>>53155612
That is beautiful. I really like the multi levels.

Some of my guys have been wanting to play SW:A, on my board. I think I need more terrain on it though.
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>>53155649
Rumor is chainaxes are getting buffs and you can assault out of any vehicle.
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>>53155671
>Also you can assault out of rhinos now
[citation motherfucking needed]
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>>53154964
Well, Vindi is probably gonna deal a lot of wounds
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>>53155599
Well it's not quite that but TGG is probably the closest you will find.

>>53155620
A good roll might smoke one but medium vehicles are looking stronk
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>>53155649
>chain axes get -armor instead of AP4
>supposedly we can charge out of transports
>can make multiple units useless with one charge by consolidating into them
>transports harder to pop
Could be worse could stay 7E
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>>53155647
Thanks dude
We have a pretty nasty ice world table, and an AoS one I'm making the helfort for
The lads bring a lot in too
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>>53155682
>Well there was a rule called Blood for the Blood God namedropped in the chaos space marine faction focus article
1) The BftBG rule IS the Blood Tithe system.
2) Stop fucking lying, the focus article didn't mention it.
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>>53155662
Man, still hurts to know that that's the most likely outcome. I want all of Chaos to get cool new things.
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>>53155292

> Walker on the building
> Tank hiding in a reservoir

For God's sake anon.
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>>53155728
>2) Stop fucking lying, the focus article didn't mention it.
Not him but the article did indeed mention it, don't be a fucking twat.
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>>53155026
I'm partial to the Donut Defense.
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>>53155649
By charging out of fucking rhinos or moving within 1'' of them so they cant fire their weapons without moving.
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>>53155747
Chimeras are amphibious.
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>>53155713
>could be 7E
You mean that edition in which we got massive movement and charge bonuses that would easily let us turn 1 charge on standard tables and in which enemies enemies couldn't just go 'lol bye' and fucking walk away from combat?
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>>53155700
There is no restriction on charging out of vehicles. Assault vehicles is no longer a thing.
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FEMALE SPACE WOOFS

that are characters
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>>53155751
No it didn't samefag, stop spreading disinformation. This is my last (you).

>>53155755
>charging out of rhinos
[citation needed]
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>>53155747
It was Dawn of War deployment
My chimera was on the edge of my deployment zone in the water. It got hit by a las cannon and immobilized turn 1.

The Skitarii guy was new, and I imagine trying to get a good shot on my Taurox Primes more to the right.
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>>53155760

It's not the water it's that the walls are as high as the tank, if it landed in there it would be stuck.
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>>53154156
So Eldar will have to be OP by default to bear the grunt of receiving their Battletome last.
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>>53155692
Love what you've done
Well the walkways come in a bunch of kits now so we nabbed a bunch
Considering LEDs
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>>53155728
Guess this is just the product of me hallucinating then.
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>>53155765
Still waiting for proofs to back up your shitposting.
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>>53155788
I was making a joke.
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>>53155800

Well this shows how little I think of the 40K community because for 9/10 people they would probably try and argue that.
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>>53155791
I don't see anything there. Are you gaslighting me faggot?
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>>53155782
Go read the article again you stupid fucking faggot.
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>>53154088
Does Grimaldus ever get another story?
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>>53155814
Oh my god it's this fag again. Go back2reddit you unfunny underage cunt.
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>>53155816
>go read X
Not a proof faggot.
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>>53155788
Ah I see. I've been slowly filling in that spot with fake water, and haven't gotten it to the height I want yet. Eventually it'll be close to level.

My group wouldn't really argue something like that. We'd take the dangerous terrain check and call it a day.
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>>53155837
>pretending to be a schizo so he doesn't have to prove his shit
This is some abstract shitposting.
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>>53155814
>I see it there and I apologize.

Yep. Glad we're all capable of reading and knowing facts here
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>>53155862
>using the same response that was used on you in a previous thread on someone who's calling you out now
That's some high-grade autism right there.
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>>53155814
Carnac shut the fuck up and hang yourself.
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>>53155522
I wonder if Vendettas are going to be Fast Attack or count as Fliers in this edition.
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>>53155904
Probably fliers. Since they are, you know, fliers.
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>>53155904
>is literally a flyer
>HMM I WONDER IF IT WILL BE A FLYER
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>>53155904
Hmmmm

Hmmmmmm

HMMMMMMMM
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Have they leaked any specific spells or powers for the psychic phase yet besides the mortal wounds one?
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>>53155877
>even more gaslighting
Not today, cunt. Prove your shit or fuck off.

>>53155884
>using the same retarded gaslighting only to get found out and called out yet again
Nice try. You have yet to provide evidence for your disinformation bullshit.
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>>53155904
>>53155911
>"fliers"
Lrn2spell you mongs. It's "flyer".
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>>53155926
>Thanks for answering my question!

No problem anon!
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>>53155911
True but I figured fliers might have referred to the really fast moving things that aren't even allowed to stay on the board. And Vendettas might count as hovercraft.
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>>53155925
Nope.
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>>53155811
Not really. You're overestimating things a bit. Things aren't true just because you assume them, and that's quite a stretch.
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How does it feel knowing that your tanks are shit now and Riptides will be significantly more durable than they are, Guard players?
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>>53155925
No and this trickle of half baked articles is starting to get old.
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>>53155935
Man, somebody sounds like he got a pineapple shoves up his ass sideways today. Top kek.

everybody knows you start with the bottom
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>>53155946
>What the fuck is a Carnac?
You know, you would be less obvious if you didn't use this same exact pathetic feigned ignorance response every time you get called out, but of course you're too autistic to realize this, which is exactly how we always know it's you.
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>>53155970
I am afraid for the Battle Cannon
hits on a 4+
d6 damage
-3 rend
I dont give a fuck about damage and armor if i cant hit shit
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>>53155925

Eldritch Storm 8+ 3D6 hits on target unit and up to five other units within 12 inches, 2+ Poison
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>>53155970
As long as they are cheaper so I can put more of them on the table.
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>>53155970
>Peope been crying that monsterous creatures have been more durable than vehicles since forever
>Vehicles get same stats as monsterous creatures
>Suddenly this means tanks are shit now for the same reasons monsters were too strong

Shitposter logic is something special alright.
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>>53155989
Thats not Carnac. Its just a random shit poster. Dont get baited so hard.
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>>53155993
I'm expecting large blasts to be 2d6 hits
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>>53155989
>hurr hurr I know you know you are this conventient strawman I just made up
Sorry faggot but no amount of mental gymnastics will fill your VOID of evidence that we can charge out of Rhinos now. Eat shit.
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>>53155993
Where did you see this?
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>>53155970
Riptides will be overall less durable because of Rend values affecting 2+ saves, lower strength weapons Wounding it on 5's instead of 6's, and the fact that they'll degrade as they take damage.

Also because the main guys in charge of playtesting don't like Tau players which is top fucking kek.
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>>53155975
Yeah. I know they don't wanna show their hand too early but I'm tired of seeing a new rule name or interaction and then get hit with "what's that? YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO FIND OUT :^)".
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>>53154140
>Instead, you’ll tend to find that a lot of Characters will have an ability that affects nearby units with a certain Keyword within a radius of effect. For example, the mysterious Dark Eldar Character Drazhar lets you add 1 to the hit rolls of all friendly Incubi units that are within 6″ in the Fight phase, while the Kroot Shaper allows nearby Kroot to re-roll wound rolls of 1 and share his superior Leadership.
Try reading next time.
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>>53155203
The White Consuls, and a minor chapter called the Adulators.
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>>53155989
Just ignore him bro
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I'm planning on making my own skyshield landing pad. I plan on putting a ramp on one or two sides to make getting tanks up and down it possible.

My question for /tg/ is if this would cause any problems if you saw this while playing. To me it largely seems like both sides will have an easier time getting on top so it should be balanced

>>53155904
>>53155911
>>53155914
>>53155919
We haven't seen the flyer rules yet but if they are like currant where they need to start off the board regardless of flying mode I'd rather my valkyries and vendettas count as hover vehicles like when they first got introduced.
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>>53156023
What part of any of my posts has to do with charging out of rhinos, faggot? You can't even follow a fucking reply chain.
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>>53156057
see >>53156045
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>>53156067
>>53156045
Sorry bros you're right.
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>>53156034
They have to keep the hype up till June.
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>>53156075
I think people would be more hype if we got some actual substance, though.

See: the response to the Guard article is way better and more full of hype than the one to the completely empty and pointless Chaos article.
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>>53156075
I'd say we get another week of hype before a release date announcement. Although, they do have enough "Faction Focus" material to last a good while.
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>>53156057
>implying it wasn't what the WHOLE ARGUMENT was about
>'I was only pretending to be retarded!'
See >>53155700 then fuck off.
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>>53156099
>(You)
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>>53156099
>he says, linking to a post that was NOWHERE in that entire fucking reply chain, which was actually about the Blood for the Blood God keyword
Summer is here apparently. Go back.
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>>53156124
>i got called out on my shitposting after +5 shitposts and disinfo spread!
>lmao better pretend he was le troll all along
Like pottery.
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>>53154919
she's a 10/10 in the UK
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>>53154071
Sorry I'm late, internet went out.

>Brings a Titan formation to a "narrative" game
>T 20
>W 50
>SV 2+
>each
>Opponent sends fabious bile into combat with them
>he hits first due to assaulting
>hits
>wounds on 6+ (because everything can do that in 8th
>I fail my save
>His weapon is Instant Death
>Remove Titan from the field
>Remove other 2 Titans after failing battle shock

g-going to love 8th.
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>>53156138
>so autistically insecure he tought it was him I was calling out
Makes you wonder...
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>>53156158
>Instant Death
>in 8E
There's your problem
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>>53156158
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>>53156158
Ld 5 Titans sounds hilarious
>Conscript Titans!
>>
These threads are so fucking bad.

Can we get the mods to do their jobs for once and ban the fucking shitposters?
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>>53156158
How come this pasta always gets +3 replies every single time it's shitposted?
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>>53156213
Because /tg/ is easy to bait.
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>>53154156
>first to receive battletome
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>>53156201
The fucking disinfo fags are the worst.
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>>53154156
>new battletomes
Battletomes is the AoS term. They're still going to be called Codexes in 8th.
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>>53154176
>you buy them and must be instantly attached to another unit and cant leave it
Considering this is how IG Commissars have always been handled, it'll probably be how things are for a few Characters.
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I just got a bunch of different grey citadel paints and some white primer. Would white primer be better for painting grey armour than black primer?

What chapter should I paint my scouts?

Leaning towards Charcharodons for my SM Scout killteam as I'm currently in Guam so the Polynesian/islander thing would be fitting, also chainaxes are kewl. Can't find any other aquatic based chapters besides iron snakes? I really like the color scheme for storm wardens but worry it might be better to go with a more popular chapter. Any blood angels books worth reading? They seem pretty cool as far as the more popular chapters go.
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>>53156087
That's because Guard>Chaos. Just like my Commissar said!

Here's hoping Tactical Marines and their Chaos equivalents get something nice because right now it's:

Alright Battle Brothers, fire your bolters at the guardsmen...YES! We killed 3 of them! What could such pitiful men possi-
>Literally Buried under 190 dice.
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>>53155791
it, like 90% of everything, is adapted from the beta AOS.
it will be a system where you get tokens when units die and spend the tokens to get power ups for your units.
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>>53155612
Looks familiar. Region?
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>>53154278
Because if guard has it, the Tau MUST get the same thing but better.

>Riptide T9 W13 Sv. 2+ for 140 points.
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>>53155178
So do lasguns.
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>>53156329
>Same thing but better

Literally just making things simpler by making 'shoot infantry gun more times' special rules function the same way.

But no, let's complain about 'muh Tau boogeyman' instead
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>>53156158
>>T 20
>>W 50
>>SV 2+
>>each
>300 points a titan

>fight him with my Tyranids
>T8
>W15
>SV 3+
>350 points each

Calling it now.
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>>53156329
Second reminder that the people primarily in charge of playtesting are Frontline Gaming who are known for shitting on Tau players and laughing as they drink their tears at the tournaments.

I think one of the stories went something like all these taufags were coming up to Reece or one of those guys and complaining there was too much terrain on the tables because their faggy gunlines couldn't see the whole opponent's army and wipe them on the first Shooting phase and the FG guys laughed in their faces and said "fucking good".

Those are the people who GW heavily relied on for playtesting. We won't be getting ANY retarded shit like Riptide Wing this edition.
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>>53155647
I figured that was part of the job! Our LGS manager basically paints whatever's in the stock when he has spare time.

We return the favor by building custom boards on occasion, but the store's small size makes it difficult to fit more than the default 3 sometimes.
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>>53156372
Hopefully. But that they gave GW feedback doesn't have to mean GW actually did something with that feedback however.
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>>53154232
Damn, that looks fucking good besides the somehow even more prominent boobplate. If GW's doesn't look as good or better I'll be disappointed.
[Spoiler]I'll probably buy whatever they put out.
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>>53156372
I bet IG is going to be the eldar of the 8th.
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>>53156372
Fucking good.
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>>53156372
It wasnt ONLY them that GW asked to help with the rules and we dont know if these 3rd parties had anything to do with Army books or how they helped.

Whatever happens Im happy so far, it seems like its going to be good at least for casual play.
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>>53156402
I don't get it. What were Eldar supposed to be in previous editions?
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>>53156372
>>53156394
>>53156405
this time last month the barest mention of frontline gaming would have had people moaning and bitching about how awful WAACfaggots ruin literally everything

how things change
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>>53156436
Overpowered
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>>53156436
I meant they'll be the WAAC army for tournaments.
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>>53156445
Only thing that concerns me is if they overreact and go too far in the other direction and it becomes a Tyranid situation where only spamming one big model in an unfluffy way is viable and a more varied list focused on infantry is just straight garbage.
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>>53156158
Ahh, this pasta has aged like a fine wine. Well done.
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>>53156463
What makes you predict that IG will be WAAC for 8th?
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>>53156497
Cheap infantry to prevent melee and artillery is effective against all targets and ignores LOS and can't scatter onto your own dudes.
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>>53154280
Master g22. Look on amazon. Cheap and durable if you treat it well
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>>53156507
Oh wow
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>>53156507
We still need to see how arty shakes out.

>>53156492
More like turned to vinegar, the only good thing about it are spin offs
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>>53156047
>deviating from the Standard Template Construct design
>>>/out/
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>>53156477
Sounds like they are at least making an honest attempt for that to not be the case.
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>>53156372
the people balancing the game should be more professional. Outright favoritism and hostility towards particular factions implies bias that is likely to bleed over into the games rules and points for units.
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>Daemon Princes will either have 10+ wounds or be untargetable
>tfw winged Prince rollin' with raptors to fuck the day
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>>53156584
If there are no units that aren't at least viable in somewhat casual games it's a win in my book. Can't remember the last time I've seen a las/missile dread ...
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>>53156618
With the 4 wounds they have now, I might expect them to go over 10. I'm almost hopeful that it'll be just at 10, since then I can have my non-winged Chaos lord hide in the center of a big cultist blob
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>>53156605
>Meanwhile Phil Kelly is still working for GW
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>>53156625
I don't think it's a fair standard to hope that every unit is viable in every combination, but to at least hope that there is some reason to bring a model to the table is probably what to shoot for. Give everything a niche.
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>>53156625
>>53156584
Doubtless there will be some options that are better or worse, but as long as they avoid situations like Gravcannons where one option was so obviously better than everything else that it was dumb to not take it, it'll be fine.
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>>53156618
>>53156630
shit man, if a primarch gets to hide in a unit then damn sure a daemon prince should too. At least that's my thinking on the matter.
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>>53156644
That's what I meant. If people really like a unit, there should at least be some way to use it in a game without being comparable to shooting yourself in the kneecaps before a friendly game of football (or soccer)
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>>53156662
Well, it's basically a question of if the Daemon prince is like Guilliman where it's just going to get a relatively slight increase, or if it's like a Dreadnought and it'll basically triple.

It's tough to say.
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>>53154115
>Jamal is porking Brittany on top of the realm of battle battle board
Old enough to bleed
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>>53156707

I'm honestly fine with either, I think. However, the thought of a flying, hidden Prince get my juices flowing.
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>>53155993
Hits on a 5+ if you have the gall to actually MOVE your tanks, too :^) -3 rend is stretching it, probably only gonna be -2 if you're really lucky.

>>53156011
>90% likely to have better stats than Leman Russ
>somehow worse
Moron logic is something special alright.

>>53156033
>implying rend won't affect the Russ's 3+ just the same
Riptide will be at least T8, they said they were making EVERYTHING more durable. Can't nerf those cash-cow armies, gotta keep people buying their anime robots. It may not be by much, but they WILL be hardier than Russes, and have much better weapons.
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>>53156572
Well when GW can make their plastic buildings the same price as my sand and foam core buildings I'll be down for sticking to the template.

Also fuck the Corpse god
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If there are no more templates how will massed Guard artillery work?
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>>53156836
Each arty piece frags a unit for xd6 wounds
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>>53156823
Hey looking good, fellow Slaaneshi
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>>53156605
>t. taufag
Feels like shit when the pendulum swings the other way, doesn't it?

Lucky for you, FG definitely are more professional than GW and likely won't be nerfing Tau too hard, but rather just enough to keep them in line with the other races instead of having bullshit like the Riptide being the best unit in the game.
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>>53156836
To-hit rolls like everything else on a 6+
to represent how inaccurate 40k artillery is :^)
.

Probably mediocre damage output if you actually hit something, too.
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>>53156751
I hope riptides are stronger and tougher than russes. You can't take fucking squads of riptides. Fa14 ra 11 hp4 squads was already bullshit for anything short of massed melta at least your average MC had a chance in melee with a riptides and infantry could kill it.
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>>53156836
pick a unit within [weapon's range] inches. That unit takes [x]d6 automatic hits. Pretty easy.
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>>53156836
>>53156854
We don't know yet.
They could 2d6 hits, 1d6+3 hits, 1d6, who the fuck knows at this point.

Also will there be any damage on a missed shot to rep resent the blast radius?
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>>53156887
>You can't take squads of riptides

Yes you can you fucking drooling retard.
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>>53156903
I don't think blast weapons will auto hit. That's only good for flamers.
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>>53156887
You can take squads of tides ffs
Just stop you are reason everyone fucking hates fucking tau
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Are there any other chapters that use green in their color scheme for CSM nurgle followers?
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>>53156914
The Purge?
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>>53156914
Do you mean a loyalist chapter that you could paint up as traitors?
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>>53156860
Thank you.

Now I just need to hope fortifications are usable, though with massed guard/renegades looking good I'm hopeful.
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>>53156887
>RA11
>4HP
At least know the stats for a unit before you post something this stupid, anon. You're only 1 for 3 on the front armor.

Also, what is a lascannon? You could instagib a Russ from 48" away with a good roll.
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>>53156906
>Squads of riptides
Jesus Christ how horrifying.

I thought the formations and 4 riptides was rough. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea? I'm guessing the same guy who thought up putting a scatter laser on every single guardian jetbike.
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>>53156928
>>53156934
I'm not sure. I've only ever played Orks and know literally nothing about csm, but the CSM half of DV landed in my lap and I love the color green.
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>>53156914
Not sure if Nurgle though, but probably.
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So does /tg/ think that Eldar are still going to be prime cheddar in 8th?
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>>53156911
Good point. Likely a role to hit and then it deals the d6 hits or something like that. I could see that.
Either way we know they will be blowing up guys.
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>>53156963
Theyre saying everything is going to be balanced
Well see how true that will be
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>>53156951
Well then yeah, there are a lot of Warbands of Nurgle that use green. It'd probably be harder to find one that didn't.

Plus you could always homebrew ones
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>>53156948
Leman Russ have rear armor 11 retard. Read the fucking codex
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>>53156948
Not him but 3 out of 7 Russ' have RA11

>>53156978
Not all of them dumb fuck
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>>53156978
Not the battle tank
Just demolisher punisher executioner have ra11
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>>53156966
Yup. Maybe if 5-6 is rolled then 2d6, 4-5 then 1d6 or something like that.
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>>53156951
Yeah The Purge is mainly green and black.
>>53156957
What a hilariously stupid name for a warband
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>>53156951
CSM don't really have chapters, they have warbands, which can be conceivably any color. So you can have a loyalist chapter like Invaders or Salamanders and paint your CSM like that, or you can use an already established warband scheme like the Purge or Death Guard
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>>53156963
No. Wraithknights will be less bullshit, D-weapons will be less bullshit, abusive psychic powers will be less bullshit, jetbikes will guaranteed be nerfed and the new Wound chart already nerfs scatter lasers against a fair amount of targets, and so on.
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>>53156978
Only the siege variants, 'retard'. The regular Russ, the subject of discussion, has AV10
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Does anyone else hope that Extra Armor will give extra wounds in exchange for lowering a vehicles movement value?

I feel like that'd be a really neat upgrade
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>>53156957
>>53157003
>Take this pain
>how could you hurt me in this way marine
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>>53157009
Can loyalists fall to chaos? I like the Salamaders, for example, and there's something there about sort of toxic green flames.
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>>53157042

Salamanders who fell preheresy?
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>>53157059

Shouldn't say Preheresy, but rather DURING the heresy.
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>>53157042
Yeah, though for chapters like that it's typically an all or nothing deal.

You could make up a successor chapter of the Salamanders that fell to chaos though
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>>53157071
I googled it and there appears to be Dragon Warriors, but they seem lame. I'm thinking green-ass dudes that look like real ghouls with bright green warpflames.
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>>53157038
I would take that tradeoff. One step closer to Leviathans and Colossi.
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>>53157084
Don't feel pressured to make something official. If you want your warband of dudes with green warpfire and being all spooky then do that, and make fluff to justify them.

They're your dudes.
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>>53157038
Maybe upping their save? Russ with 2+ armor would be horrifying.
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>>53156914
Death Guard?
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>>53157042
Yes, though the Salamanders specifically are a little small. Someone already suggested having a small chapter go renegade, or you can have a warband mad up of surviving individuals that have gone traitor over the years. You could also have a warband of CSM that hate Salamanders, and so they copy their colour scheme and plunder their gear as a way of mocking them.
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>>53157104
I should have been more specific in my post. The other refers to "other than Death Guard", which i think are cool, but not green eough.

>>53157107
>>53157098
>>53157076

Thanks for all the replies guys. I really like that idea, and I think I'm gonna hash it out a bit.
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>>53157042
I don't think these guys are Nurgle, sorry, but the Dragon Warriors are CSM Salamanders.
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>>53157103
I feel like that might be tricky to apply across the board though. I mean, +1 to the save of a Russ would work fine, but the same thing on like a Dreadnought? or a Rhino?

I feel like +1 or +2 wounds in exchange for losing an inch or two of movement would be a fine trade-off for a few extra points. Movement penalty would mainly be because I wouldn't want it to end up as a mandatory upgrade that everyone takes on every vehicle all the time with no downside.
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>>53157084
There's a blue/black CSM warband with green warpflames decorating their armor, but I don't think they're nurgle either.
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Yall ready for Tau to suck in 8th?
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>>53157121
I get the feeling universal vehicle gear won't be a thing anymore.
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>>53157164
I AM READY

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R
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>>53155700
Well GW did do that in an early stream. I think they forgot they weren't playing 8th.
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Why bother with largr ground battles when you can nuke shit from orbit?
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>>53157270
Hush, you. Because reasons.
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Any confirmation than playtesting is just the Tau-hating Frontline Gaming guys? It would suck so much if my Riptide allies suddenly aren't fieldable outside Tau armies because I don't have a goddamn Tau army.
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>>53157298
Why bother with large ground battles when you can nuke shit orbit?
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>>53154501
More chapter tactics for other factions.
AL get chapter tactics for both Chaos and Loyalist factions.
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>>53157270
Because ground defenses are a thing and you might not have full orbital dominance and that leaves you vulnerable while bombarding.
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>>53157270
Because you don't want to nuke vital infrastructure or holy relics?

Because you don't have orbital superiority?

Because the Dark Gods demand a sacrifice reaped by hand?

Because you're here to devour the biomass with its genetic code intact?

Because the target site is covered by anti-orbital void shields which can only be disabled from ground forces that get under the umbrella?

Because the target site is covered by anti-missile defenses or orbital defense lasers that would fry your ships?

Because you're a colonial militia on a feudal world that has no tech more advanced than lasguns and fights on horseback?

Because the higher ups in command told you that you couldn't for reasons you aren't authorized to know about?

Because you aren't a creatively bankrupt retard who has no imagination for how to set up a cool narrative for a massive ground battle?
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>>53157196
Tough.
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>>53157335
>Because you aren't a creatively bankrupt retard who has no imagination for how to set up a cool narrative for a massive ground battle?
You got me there. Aside from urban combat, I can't make up a scenario that makes military sense.

What sort of targets are prone to be equiped with shields and orbital defenses?
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>>53157371
Hive cities, factories, large shrines, fortress monasteries, landing ports, fuel depots, etc.
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>>53157299
>riptide allies
You deserve this
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>>53157371
>What sort of targets are prone to be equiped with shields and orbital defenses?

In 40k? Everything. The fucking shipping containers come with mounted bolters, for fuck's sake.
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>>53157371
I just provided you with like 8 of them.

The point of warfare isn't just "kill the other side", it has objectives. You often don't want to blow those objectives up.

Why do you think nukes have almost never been used in our real conventional military history? Are you one of those retards who is like "hurrrr y dun they just nuke ISIS, its all obamas fault"
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>>53157164
I don't want them to suck total balls. Sure they need nerfs/changes that don't break the fucking game, and many will come from the removal of formations and a probable change to Markerlights, but it sucks that I get vilified for enjoying an army that also tends to attract some of the worst type of players.
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>>53157395
>landing ports
How come these even exist? I read about the Dark Angels blowing one up in the siege of Vraks and how it was oh so important for the traitors yet no one at any point had been using it and just landed anywhere on the surface.
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>>53155814
>>53155843
Jesus Christ, how many times does this have to happen today where someone comes into this thread has some disagreement about rules or something related, ether injecting their own opinions or asking for answers to their problems only to go on some rampage of insanity which ends up with them angrily/ condescendingly ranting in replies only to have no solution? Hell, not even a technical outcome of sorts.

From going on if a lascannon is now D6 damage (when the proof is right there and they go beyond trolling after trolling.) to shit like women are weak breading machines and the fact some people cannot trust someone saying what a new rule might me when mostly all the shit thats been confirmed so far has been said with no citation all the way back to numarines. Lets be honest, we dont have the books, we dont officially know the rules in a technical sense.

I am so damn sick of this crap that i truly know how 10,000 years of war can go on. By knowing how utterly horrid and disgraceful the enemy is, that it fills you with a rage that can fuel a hundred forge worlds.
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>>53157444
Landing ports tend to be for things like cargo. They can't get supplies if they can't land there.
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>>53157396
It's fluffy. Why wouldn't Tau send their toughest units to fight a common enemy? They lose nothing, the Riptides just stay behind, they solve a problem with their allies of convenience.
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>>53157440
Except we could really just nuke most ISIS strongpoints and get away with it, Raqqa and Mosul the only exceptions.

>objectives
What objective beyond 'kill the enemy' could a Khornate force possibly have? Yes I'm stupid.
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>>53157444
Helicopters can feasibly land anywhere also, but they generally prefer helipads.

Read the events of the Siege of Terra if you're interested in seeing the absolute extreme of Astartes siege warfare. Terra gets a gun strapped to every roof to the point that AA fire is so brutal that the traitors have to land way outside of the city and fight inwards until they can secure a proper space port for bringing in heavy vehicles and larger reinforcements.
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>>53156213
At this point the replies are mostly mocking it, since we've all seen it so many times and are aware of how silly it is.
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>>53157299

Good you deserve it faggot

>>53157484

>its fluffy

Oh good, you're just baiting
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>>53157492
There's also a counter pasta somewhere.
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>>53157507
It's fluffy and you know it. If Eldar can ally with the imperium in defending Cadia, they can ally with Tau to kill anything that threatens them both.
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is a general 'forces of chaos' army allowed in casual gameplay?
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>>53157550
What is a "forces of chaos army"?

Allies are allowed (like allying CSM with demons), but we don't know yet how they will work in 8th
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>>53157466
The Death Korps of Krieg had exactly zero trouble acquiring supplies despite their landing zone being empty desert. Siege of Vraks again.

>>53157486
But how do landing pads come into that equatiot? Whether they exist or not, you'll still have to land out of the range of the orbital lasers.
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>>53157485
>What objective beyond 'kill the enemy' could a Khornate force possibly have? Yes I'm stupid.
Secure an extraction point to get off-planet after they're done slaughtering so they don't get cornered and die when the enemy's retaliation force arrives.

Open a daemonic warpgate to let their Bloodthirster overlord into realspace to lead their bloody crusade.

Take a new stronghold to be their base of operations in the sector so they can continue having access to ammunition, equipment, fuel, and other logistics they need to function as an effective killing force instead of just a dumb ineffectual rabble of angry guys with blunt axes in rags.

Steal said ammo/fuel/equipment.

Capture a VIP psychic prophet who has information their murderlord needs for his next plan.

I can fucking go on, dude. Just use your brain.
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>>53157462
And so has a shit ton of baseles disinfo been disprocen since day one. Back your shit up or fuck off.
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>53157549
>defending allied triptide
>using fluffy as an excuse

Not even worth a (you). I'm so glad faggots like you are getting fucked in 8th.
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>>53157568
Ah, ok
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>>53157569
Because not everything can just land in the middle of a desert or something. Sure, a thunderhawk gunship can drop off in a street and deploy a couple of squads, but when you need to move hundreds of bodies, guns, and vehicles simultaneously, you need a proper landing area to facilitate that.
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>>53157596
It's fluffy, maybe a little undercosted, but completely removing it is retarded and goes against any sense of fun the game has.
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>>53157550
Literally anything is allowed in casual gameplay.

A general "Chaos Soup" Detachment will also be possible in matched play since all you need is for every unit in the Detachment to share a Faction keyword, and Chaos is one such keyword.
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>>53157484
Get out.
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>>53157585
The first two don't make sense, because Khornates don't run away and because they summon daemons by killing and dying (hello KDK) so rituals are unnecessary.

The rest make sense though, thanks anon.
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>>53157621
>Taudar triptide scatbike WAACfag complaining about things that are unfun
Good bait, son.
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>>53157626
> xeno-friendly xeno race actually allies with other xenos
> wah wah my adeptus autistes pride is hurt
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>>53157621
Give an example of it happening in the fluff.
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>>53157646
You know even retardus astartes can bring a Riptide wing, right?
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>>53157614
The thing is, Siege of Vraks proved that you can. You can literally drop yeven fucking trains from orbit, and the workers and materials needed to build the railroads that carry them, in the middle of an empty desert.
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>>53157671
They could, but they'd still be a huge fucking faggot for doing so.
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>>53157621
>WAACfag with triptide assblasted about getting btfo in 8th
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>>53157655
It says in the Tau codex that Tau fight with other xenos all the time. They used to be battle bros w/ Eldar for emprah's sake
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What kind of ships do CSM and IG use for transport?
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>>53157691
So give an example of Eldar and Tau suits fighting side by side then.
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>>53157299
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>>53157683
Ever read fall of cadia? It is known that xenos helped defend cadia, the records just didn't specify who.
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>>53157299
>>53157484
>>53157549
>>53157621
This is great bait, I'm going to recycle it a few threads down the line.
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>>53157699
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Navy_Vessels_(List)#Transports
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>>53157621
I'd spit on you if I could
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>>53157299
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>>53157719
I'm sorry if you can't stand to see someone else is right.
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>>53157717
Doesn't say which ones they use for troops though.
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>>53157703
If there were more black library books about eldar, I'd tell you. But right now all we can work with is background information.

Eldar did fight with Orks in dawn of war, though.
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>>53157639
If they didn't retreat they wouldn't be lurking in the Eye of Terror. They're not all mindless frothing loonies.
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God dammit people stop falling for the bait
Why are you people so easily baited
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>>53157751
But did they fight with a force of Eldar combined with only a handful of giant Ork walkers?
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>>53157736
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>>53157764
In a large enough conflict, who's to say it won't happen?
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>>53157743
It does if you actually read the ship pages.

Universe Class, Carrack class, and Cetaceus Class are all mentioned to being used for troop transportation.
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>>53157763
>>53157763
This guy is just a good scapegoat for bias confirmation is all
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>>53157763
Because they're getting honey-dicked. Of course they want to see someone posting something that confirms their bias just so they can come back and say "SEE, TAU PLAYERS ARE LIKE THIS" when it is one of the least believable baits I've seen.
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>>53157756
It's not that they're mindless, it's that Khorne sends his hounds after those who run away from battle. And unlike other Gods he doesn't consider death a failure as long as you die fighting.
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>>53157678
Yes, and in the Isstvaan III battle mortarion landed his entire force in the desert.

But that's not always an option, like if you don't have the luxury of time to march through the desert onto a target.

Space ports are more convenient generally, and in the case of non-military entities, entirely necessary. It's also worth noting that capturing a space port can hamper a defenders abilities to deploy their own air craft effectively.
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>>53157783
Alright, thanks. How about the Chaos ships?
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>>53157829
Another thing is not every planet is going to have a huge desert right next to where you need to be. Most worlds have hills, forests, and other rough terrain that might not allow for such tactics.

Also, landing in the middle of nowhere instead of a Spaceport means you have to bring everything with you, instead of being able to use the existing infrastructure for your base.

If you land in the desert, you're setting up your own fort there. If you land in a space port, you can use it and the surrounding buildings as a base for your defenses.
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>>53157299
Good bait
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>>53157853
It doesn't say anywhere, though it's probably the same ships for Chaos as for the Imperium. I doubt many Dark Magos or Warpsmiths are going to bother designing transport ships when they can just use captured or traitor ships from the Imperium.
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>>53157829
>aircraft
Fucking bingo anon. Protect it with orbital lasers and you'll have an airforce even if the enemy has orbital dominance!
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>>53157896
Or just build them themselves since they already have the blueprints.
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>>53157853

A lot of the traitors warbands are still using heresy era ships and shit, on top of classic piracy. Traitors still have and use assault claws, which gives them a huge advantage in boarding actions.
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I miss wazdakka
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>>53157299
is yuo nigger?
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>>53157799
And yet there they are in the Eye rather than having spent 10,000 years constantly attacking.
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>>53155760
One day that rule will save me
One day
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>>53158073
Are there even rules for water tiles?
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>>53157985
Been saying for a while now that orks should get a replacement for Maggie as Warboss of fluff focus. Don't even necessarily dislike him, but his WAAAGHs feel a bit like Failbaddon's crusades.
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>>53158175
I want to fornicate that little girl
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>>53158256
Filthy dumb pedo scum
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>>53158175
Wait, is that cord going to a rape whistle?
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>>53158263
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>>53157299
This is normally when i'd tell you to neck yourself, but honestly it's probably for the best if you just go take everything in your medicine cabinet and wash it all down with a bottle of vodka, you can stare at your triptides and weep as you remember the good times you had being a massive faggot with them, hold on to those times as you slip away anon.
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>>53158278
Why yes, It is. This is what we call, extortion
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>>53158396
Fuck off, pedophile.
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>>53158417
Where do you think you are?
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>>53158429
Not on /b/ or /d/ or /trash/

Go back to AnonTalk if you want to spread your pedo garbage.
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>>53158454
>/d/
We don't allow that either.
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>>53158492
What, standards amongst degenerates? Why do you care so much if you're all going to burn up in the same oven?
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>>53158454
>doesn't mention /a/
>the most loli obsessed board
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>>53158506
Loli is banned across all of 4chan.
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>>53158506
We don't allow literal crap or Handholding or the missionary position under the blanket with the lights off for the sole purpose of procreation.
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>>53158508
/a/ is /b/ lite now. It's not even worth mentioning.

>>53158512
http://www.4chan.org/rules
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:
>loli/shota pornography
It's allowed in /b/.

>>53158522
Again, why care so much if you're all going to suffer the same horrible death anyways?
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>>53158512
yeah, we would never even meme about something so serious
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>>53158454
Nobody gives a shit what you think faggot
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>>53158529
Funny that it's not allowed on /trash/.
>>53158530
I meant Loli porn
Obviously loli otherwise is fine
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>>53158590
Loli has never been and will never be "pedophilia" in American law. Not even my loli onahole is "pedophilia".
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>>53158596
>i-i-it's not pedophilia gaiz!
>i-i-i don't w-want to f-f-f-f-fuck children gaiz!
You're even more delusional than trannies.
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>>53158602
>quatruple stutter
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>>53158628
>thinking I'm the anon you were responding to
I'm just stopping by to tell you your post was shit.
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>>53158645
>>
recommend me some neat mdf laser cut terrain
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>>53158628
g-g-g-g-go back to 1d4ddit
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>>53158679
>inspect element
If you actually bothered with any of this, or y'know just reading the responses you'd see it was >>53158661 anon you were responding to. He's the one going on about getting off to lolis.
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>>53158699
>m-m-m-muh reddit!
Hello, reddit!
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>>53158715
Perhaps you'd be better off on a website where identities were public. That way it's easier to follow the conversation.
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>>53158704
That was actually my first post in the thread
I just asked because I'had found that portion of the definition to be strange
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>>53158729
No thank you, reddit. The only reason you're not on your ebic le upboat website is because your shitty subs got banned years ago.
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>>53158734
That's because that's the psychiatric definition ie. the definition that gets you locked up in the madhouse. Which is fucked, because anyone with sexual attraction to children should be locked up no matter if it's their primary interest or a side interest.
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So I just read the last 50 odd responses. Do any of you retards even play this game?
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>>53158766
gotta kill time until the next spoiler article comes out
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>>53157853
>>53157896
>was looking for troop aircraft for my new csm army as well
>oh heres what I need, a stormbird
>mfw giant 750 dollars from forgeworld

I dont want those clawpods, they are ugly. Isnt there a cheap flying rhino i can get?
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>>53158766
I wish 8th edition would come out already so I could find out if my local group is going to move onto it or dissolve.
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>>53158789
storm eagle
cheaper and only 205 points
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>>53158789
Burn the Chaos coal, pay the toll
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>>53158840
Ah of course, thought it was a pure gunship and skipped right over it.

Might save up for one with that price.
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>>53158862
Or you know, chinaman it.
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>>53158789
You could hope that the drop pods have little enough keywords that it would allow you to play it with CSM
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>>53158162
Every faction needs a badass who still for some reason looses a lot
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It's incredible what a single dedicated shitposter can do to a reoccurring thread with but a pair of alternating baiting identities
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new thread
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>>53158862
I wish there was a Space Marine legion that interested me, I've got tons of Marines but I just don't feel a connection to any Marine faction
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>>53158873
stop tempting me with chinaman!

I finally think i found his email but his fucking catalogue is all over the place
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>>53154775
It looks like he's falling over.
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>>53154941
>What exactly has GW been doing this last decade?
Practicing brainwashing-mental gymnastic
>>
Just remembered that Obliterators are cool and that I have a bunch lying around that I got when their new models came out in 3rd ed

Are they any good tho? I've just been playing fantasy the whole time
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There's no way Tau and Eldar are getting nerfed if everyone else is getting buffed. Surely GW can't be that retarded.
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>>53159075
>retarded
The two worst factions in the game getting nerfed to hell is a good thing.
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>>53159051
Right now they are not in a great spot, but hopefully that will change next month with 8e.
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>>53159051
They used to be auto-include in every Chaos list but I'm not sure about current edition.
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>>53159075
The problem is that they are, particularly the Eldar, too much strong to even consider not nerfing them
If all the armies were to be put on the same level as they are now we would have game ending in 5 minutes, with the winner being in most cases the one that has the first turn, unless the opponent deep strike all his army

They are most likely going to buff/make interesting their weaker/less used units, like having the Stealth Suit have a -1/-2 to be hit in the open, but the strong ones are most likely going to be nerfed
Unless they give him a ton of wounds the Wrightknight has already being nerfed by not being anymore almost immune to poison and having many weapons that wounded him on a 6+, or not wounding him at all, be able to wound it on a 5+
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>>53155491
Fite me!
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>>53159051
They are decent if you mark them with tzeenthc or nurgle.

They can be downright filthy in a death guard list where they'll be waddling around with T5 and FNP, though Havocs outpace them in mid strength shooting and bikers in melta.
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>>53159083
>>53159145
No more Riptide Wing, scatter lasers can't kill anything because of all the wounds and 3+ to wound T4, no more D, so what's the problem?
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>>53159190
The problem is that they still exist and that their players haven't burned their minis and killed themselves yet.
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>>53159145
poison will probably only work with units that have the keyword 'infantry' or something like this. I'm pretty confident it still won't work on vehicles
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>>53159190
Let's not act like S:D isn't going to be S10+ AP-3+ Damage d6+
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>>53159255
Biggest problem with D was the D6+6 mortal wounds.
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question from the Space Wolf thread
>>53159298 is it right to say SW don't use the Warp/sorcery?
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>>53159363
No. Stop pushing this shitty fucking meme.
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>>53159336
Than the D-shytes weren't much of a problem, since they couldn't roll a 6

They were overpowered anyway, the only reason they weren't the basic winning Eldar army was because scatterbike were ridiculously faster and dished out so many bullets that they could saturate whatever defense the opponent had

Maybe they'll nerf Eldar enough that I'll be able to buy, paint and run my dreamed Wraith army without feeling like an asshole at the sole thought
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>>53159385
That was a problem with the wraithguard themselves rather than D itself.
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new thread when
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>>53159591
never
this is the end of /40kg/
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>>53159604
FINALLY
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>>53159591

Hate on Corax
>>53159084
New thread
>>53159084
Ebin memes
>>53159084
Death of /tg/
>>53159084
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