Infinity General: Budget Cutter Edition

I may have too many Line Kazaks. Need to get me some Vets and Spetz.

Sexy dead girl repost.

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How useful is the Morlock box? I hate the sculpts, but I don't feel like buying the Bakunin starter. Does anyone run them in multiples in vanilla Nomads?

If I was going to get the Bakunin box, how do people feel about Moiras? I think I'd rather have Kusanagi.

>>52979038
They are 6-point models with smoke grenades. Feel free to spam them.

Kusanagi is kind of waste of points IMHO.

>>52979070
I've heard that a lot about Kusanagi. What's so bad about her? She's the only semi two-wound model outside of the Brigadas.

>>52979188
She's overpriced, it's obvious she's the lieutenant, and the bonus SWC she gives is hard to take advantage of within the points you have left. Especially if you field her with a Miora link team.

>>52979188

Also Riot Grrls and SWAST, woops. I just noticed that 30pt spec-ops Grrl profile; I might pick up that Bakunin starter anyway!

I've go so many Alguiciles already, I might convert the Moderators to Morlocks.

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Productive night of painting

>>52978401
I want Varuna sectorial to be released already I wanna play high tech navy seals/CT the army.

>>52979038
I really like the elf girl.

>>52978951
Nice.

>>52979070
She isnt awful, but by no means great. Her +cust+healer is probably the most expensive and diverse button pushing haris. If using the spitfire option you can have a custodier be the Lt.

Moiras are okay solo or when you know your opponent wont have msv, it would be probably be too much to ask for moiras to be able to join a custodier haris. They run into a problem of competing with Riots.

>>52979650
Elf girl hips made for breeding. Bless ze Germans.

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You're in the club and this salty ass Spaniard slaps your girlfriend's ass. What do you do?

>>52980068
I realise that i'm on tg, and as such i don't have a girlfriend.

Are the current Riot Grrrls from V2?

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>>52979038
>Morlocks and Moderators do different things. For starters Morlocks are Irregular. I've heard people used to run swarms of them in N2 in Italy.
One Morlock is only 6pts (other profiles are not worth it) and they do what every warband does: chuck smoke and kill stuff worth more than them before they die. Something like Morlocks would be good against a Moira link.

>If I was going to get the Bakunin box, how do people feel about Moiras? I think I'd rather have Kusanagi.

Moiras and Kusanagi go together. Kusanagi used to be meh, but they gave her Specialist Operative and a Spitfire, so now she can use her BS14. In a Moira link she's a monster, in a Custodier Haris still a powerhouse. And Moiras can still take a Healer into the Core with her, so you get two specialists, a BS14 base Spitfire and a few more ODD girls with some good weapons.
Moira link is generally thought of as good, but a little fragile for their points, as they have obvious counters in form of MSV and Direct Template Weapons. Riot Grrls don't have that weakness. However you can run a Moira Core + Kusanagi and a Riot Grrl Haris or a Riot Grrl Core and Custodier + Kusanagi Haris in the same list easily.

Disregard those people:
>>52979211
>>52979743
Spitfire Kusanagi does not give you any bonuses as the Lt, so you can actually use someone else. Multi Rifle Kusanagi is not as useful, unless you really need those SWC. The other guy is citing Custodier + Healer + Kusanagi Haris, which is simply against their special fireteam rules: it always must be at least two Custodiers (but you can have both Healer and Kusanagi in a Moira link). Not to mention blue Morlock girl is obviously superior.

>>52980142
You mean models? Yeah they are older. They are going to get a new box soon, with more dynamic poses, Missile Launcher and a hideous TinBot. Personally I think current ones look better than the previewed renders of new ones, but my opinion might change once I see painted models.

>>52980068
>wake up
>realize I haven't played for months
>realize I havent' painted my minis for months
>realize I don't have gf
>cry

>>52980068
Tell him to cut it out, he might chip the paint!

>>52980210
Kek

>>52979638
I'm mostly interested in seeing what will happen to the Kamau. The Fusiliers will probably be the LI link team to go, so we might see the Kamau get a transformation from LI to MI.
Also, Orc link team. Team mediocre, assemble!

>>52980499
Apparently Kamau are intended to be the main force with Fusiliers in a more supportive role, which probably means limited AVA. Hopefully the surfer dudes get some equipment or loadouts to make them more versatile. The BSG revealed in the dossier is a promising start, but I hope it's not all.

Hoping for a missile launcher for Orcs as well. All the basic linkable HI for other human factions got one, so it seems likely that PanO will too.

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>>52980499
>>52980659
Kamau becoming MI would probably drive up their cost more. They are still a bit expensive for LI, but I guess that's the price of BS13 and WIP13 in PanO.
This dossier is probably not binding yet and they've been known to contain mistakes (like BSG on Moderator one). I'm half expecting Kamau to drop HMG in favor of Spitfire. But as they stand they would already make a decent (if fragile) Core.

Fusiliers may get limited AVA like in MO.

I wonder if there is going to be a new MSV unit. PanO wouldn't be PanO without having some MSV in every army.

>Hoping for a missile launcher for Orcs
I would say I wouldn't hold my breath, but I remember Brigada ML and Hacker profiles were revealed very shortly before their box release. So who knows.

>>52980751
>http://i.imgur.com/9QpvwKU.png

Forward deployment level 2, nullifiers and linkable please.

Any lurking whorecors want to spoil Major Lunah's stats or at least her special equipment for us?

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>>52980499
>>52980659
>>52980751
>>52980960
>right now Bostria is sitting at his monitor frustrated that he can't spill the beans yet

>>52980168
Actually in the Kusanagi FAQ its POSSIBLE to make a Kusanagi + Custode + Healer.
You have also that lik specified in the mobile army.

>>52981050
Oh shit, when did they change that?
I want to play Bakunin now.

>>52981070
More than two months. I use that haris almost every game and I have to say its powerful as hell.

Also I won a match against a friend thanks to the custode pitchers and the pitcher refill bot (8pts) just by hacking his TAG.

The holly trinity they call it

>>52980960
Considering that the only other forward deployment L2 unit is considered a skirmisher I really doubt that's going to happen. L1 is possible, that would be pretty sweet but you'd want a spitfire as alternative to the HMG they have now.

And aren't nullifiers alien-only tech?

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>>52981070
Aaaand for you to see. Look at the last type of haris.

>>52981124
Yeah, desktop version has that now too.
Pretty sweet.

>>52979188
>She's the only semi two-wound model outside of the Brigadas
>Riot Grrls
>Taskmasters
>Geckos
There's also Lupe and Jaguars with Dogged.

>Population of Dawn: Less then 9 million
>Typical human planet: several billions
>Ariadna is somehow a major faction.

>>52980068
Slap his ass?

>>52981967
Yeah, but how many of those billions are soldiers in teseum armours?

>>52981967
>Less then 9 million
That's more than population of Israel.

>>52981967
They got Teseum, and the other factions aren't legally allowed to kick their shit in.

>>52982021

Doesn't matter, there's literally billions of expendable wageslaves/peasants/unemployed the big boys can throw at them.

>>52982031

They don't even control the whole of their own planet, and said other factions are happily funding secessionist movements, essentially making Ariadna on Ariadna faction wars much more likely canon-wise compared to everyone else.

>>52981967
Doesn't seem that atypical to me. Lots of wargames have small dying races that are major factions (e.g. most depictions of elves and elvish equivalents). [Heck Genestealer cults are barely a blip in the radar in the general Galactic scene of the 40k universe, especially considering they mostly die when their planet gets devoured, yet they still have a presence given with a codex].

Considering Ariadna specifically, it's got a higher military presence as a portion to the population compared to most other hyperpower factions. They've had to deal with Antipodes and harsh environments mostly by themselves, fending off corporations who want that sweet Teseum moolah, while most other factions have the equivalent of mall cops or super elite agents no one's supposed to know all that much about.

Anyone have scans of the books?

>>52982237
Dude... The rules are free

>>52982264
Yeah, but fluff is nice and I need something to read while taking a shit.

>>52982195

I doubt even the Eldar are THAT numerically inferior compared to the rest, and 'stealer cults (especially successful ones) generally comprise of a not-significant part of planetary populations that are again typically several billion and above.

And even with a higher % of population under arms, they by all rights should be too busy trying to not get killed (by antipodes or each other) to matter much to the rest of the Sphere. It's amazing they can even spare anyone to ship off world to begin with.

>>52982237

Last link in OP. N1/2 stuff is 90% the same anyway.

>>52982302
Thanks, anon.

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Had my first ITS tournament yesterday, won 10th out of 24 places. Felt really good, and grabbed some infinity token price goodies which I actually sorely need.

WuMing pain train was real fun. Think Bao sniper gets a little too much flak for how effective a deterrent he is at the end of the day, even if there are lots better ones out there.

Oh, and I killed Achilles, mh mh.

>>52978401
Cute Uhlan edition.

Anyone got the picture of her sister?

Trying to make a decent JSA list that also uses what I wanna use. Unfortunately, that's difficult because there's so much I want to use. This list is not optimized at all, to be honest.

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I love Miyamoto Musashi, mainly because of the historical Miyamoto Musashi. He was such a fascinating man. But I know Yojimbo would be better, and cheaper. I also want to use an O-Yoroi, but that's just too expensive if I want those Oniwabans. I don't really know what to do here.

>>52982051
>the professional armies of PanO/Yu Jing couldn't conquer Dawn
>an army of shitty conscripts would somehow do better

>>52982842

pan0 couldn't outright conquer Dawn anyway due to legal shenanigans by YJ (with Nomad/Haqq/ALEPH agreement) to have Ariadna recognised as a sovereign state (though not the whole planet).

Grenades are infinite, correct?

>>52983155

For some reason yes. Just like all other weapons without the limited ammo trait.

Grenades having Disposable 2 but better damage would be good.

>>52982339
The State Empire finds your performance satisfactory.

>>52982339
Don't pretend to me that one Zuyong is a Wu Ming. I know what he's up to.

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>>52982576

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Imagine this scene with Felix and Amba

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>>52986556

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>>52986556
Drawfaaaags!!!

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Getting more work done on this.

>>52986556
Daily reminder that those are most likely victims of human trafficking whom the Druze society mind-wiped and biomodified into sex slaves against their will.

Then Emily and her so called "heroes" blew them all up.

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>>52979295

Put on my matte finish so I wouldn't have a glossy flak jacket on the dudes.

Took one picture with flash and one without, my models look somewhere in between both pictures.

>>52986897
That's sick!

>>52982071
Infinity isn't a game about open wartime conflict. It's about black ops combat situations.

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>>52986897

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>>52986556
Okay, but who are they servicing? Still Jethro? I mean, he *was* hot, but it'd feel like a missed opportunity.

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>>52987734
Here's a better idea, Amba and the Daktari catgirl servicing Felix.

>>52987734
I thought the point is that Felix serves Amba.

>>52987869
Boo, get that non-/tg/-original out of here. Rather, have Amba and the proposed Aleph-loli service or even Felix roommate do the deed.

>>52987734
Why not the chimera? She was quite present in early felix art.

>>52980168
>(other profiles are not worth it)
Son, are you throwing shade on the assault pistol morlock? 2 points more to upgrade the pistol to a B4 damage 13 gun with the same range bands?

Might just be my experience, but it's done plenty of work for me if you can spare the 2 points.

>>52987558
>Today on Arachneleaks: Invincible army vs. maghariba guard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQzPlU1VMg

Someone post a link to the Outrage scans

>>52989624
Or you could, ya know, buy it.

If there's more money they're more likely to make a sequel.

>>52989981
I'm a sucker for cyberpunk/sci-fi comics, yet I don't think it deserves a place the shelf for most people. It's an entertaining read, but not noteworthy in any way.

>>52989981
I've spent over $200 on Infinity in the past year alone.

>>52981967
>9 million

now 8990000 lol

>>52989624
last link in the OP

>>52989981
also kiss my ass moralfag, I bought it twice and there were still days between the first scans and when mine arrived.

That said, at 20 dollars for a book and figure you'd have to be a dumbass not to have grabbed it straight away.

>>52989981
>Or you could, ya know, buy it.
>Supporting Bostria's salt mine conglomerate.
>Supporting things that aren't game related.
>Supporting things that aren't miniatures.
Lmao kill yourself

So what do you guys think a Re-Creation of Adolf Hitler would be like, and what faction would it belong to?

>>52991396

He wouldn't join a heavily religious faction like PanO or Haqq (plus, dirty brown people), and he's obviously not going to CA or Tohaa. That leaves Aleph (but he's not greek), Nomads (but they hate Aleph), Yu Jing or Ariadna.

I'm not sure what Yu Jing would do with him, unless they wanted to give him to the Japanese sectorial, or make a Japanese Rebellion Army that's trying to get out from under the hand of Yu Jing.

I could see a neo-nazi subsection of Nomads going to one Ariadna's rival factions and joining up under NuHitler.

>>52991689

Well, the Nomads hate ALEPH, but they've 'freed' two recreations from his control already (Avicenna and Wallace). Maybe a neo-nazi Praxis module catches wind of ALEPH doing this and drops a ton of money on rescuing the Fuhrer from the dirty juden AI's clutches?

MOV4-2 CC12 BS13 PH13 WIP16 ARM3 BTS3 W2 S2

V:Courage * Sixth Sense L2 * ODD * Blitzkrieg

Hitler LIEUTENANT (Strategos L2)
Hitler (Executive Order)

Blitzkrieg: Models is this unit's combat group gain Advance Deployment L1 and V:Courage.

>>52991884

Combi-Rifle, Pistol, Knife? Maybe a MULTI Rifle at least?

>>52991689
>or Haqq (plus, dirty brown people)
Hitler had a lot of respect for Islam and there were plenty of Arabs who fought with the Axis. There were even Muslim SS divisions.

>>52991901

I gave him good defensive stats because he managed to escape despite half the first and second world looking for him. Blitz and Strategos because he was an effective statesman and started a war with great success.

He wasn't much of a general, so I didn't give him any offensive stuff; his supporting abilities are so strong that all the defensive stuff acts as a point sink for it. If he had a spitfire or something he'd be ridiculous. I should probably drop him to one wound.

As for weapon, probably an AP Rifle assuming Ariadna, Multirifle for Nomads. Pistol Knife sounds good.

>>52991908

I'm surprised I haven't heard that as a factoid against muslims before. Themoreyouknow.tif

>>52991884
What's the point of Executive Order if he doesn't have Camo or AD

>>52992283

I mixed up EO with CoC. I was thinking of something fluffy about his political coup.

Is the Shasvastii Corax showing some underboob or is that armor?

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>>52992283
>>52992496
Like interfering with people that knew what they were doing?

>>52992732
Yes.

>>52992847
>Yes.

Which one? I need to know.

>>52992847
But a trooper with EO immediately becomes the LT as soon as he hits the table. So if Mr Hitler is going to be LT regardless of profile option and the other provides Strat L2, why even bother with the EO option.

>>52991689
>unless they wanted to give him to the Japanese sectorial, or make a Japanese Rebellion Army that's trying to get out from under the hand of Yu Jing
I feel like Oda Nobunaga would be a perfect fit for that role.

Alright, so if we know what Hitler's like in Infinity, why not some other recreations?

Stalin? Pol Pot? Chairman Mao?

Other side of hte coin: What if ALEPH tried a second Wallace, but for USAriadna? What president would be best?

>>52994363
>>52993578

I would rather see someone like Tokugawa.

>>52994363
Gotta be Teddy Roosevelt. Not many of the other presidents are tough enough to survive on Dawn. Teddy would love it.

>>52994363
Washington or >>52994521 are probably the top picks.

>>52994363
Lincoln. Actually good in combat (he was a wrestler, and among other feats once tossed a man by the neck) but also very much a figure people have in mind as charismatic, and stern.

They'd probably have to change his voice a bit though, it was described as rather shrill.


I'm still holding out for a Simon Bolivar recreation.

>>52994683
Ok, post script. I double checked the feat, not so much tossing, but lifting by the throat and shaking the person like a child.

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>>52994639
Not blackjack Nixon
Shame to the country

>>52994521
>>52994639
>>52994683
Thinking about it, this is probably a much harder decision than it appears.

So ALEPH starts Operation: Shattered Dawn, designed to succeed where Operation: (whatever the William Wallace) one failed. It's oen more re-creation for each nation of Dawn; Teddy Roosevelt for USAriadna, Charles du Gaulle for Merovingia, and Stepan Razin for Rodina and Tartary.

What do their stats look like and what happens?

>>52993578
As a person who mains JSA, I would love that so much.

>>52995469
As a person who mains ISS, shut up you filthy midget dog. You want another beating?

>>52995178
The french recreation should be the sort of historical leader the french would look up to though, like Marine Le Pen

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>>52995790
Pffft. The French have a modern master of investigation and neutralization. Sure, he's a little hard on the help, but what leader isn't?

Is it possible to be competitive with Bolts in NCA?

>>52996048
it is perfectly possible to make a competitive nca list with 2 drop bear bolts, yes

>>52996048
Yeah. They're a pretty decent midfield link and if you can get them to a place where their shotguns shine they become incredibly hard to remove, especially if you bring drop bears (which you should).

Bolts' crime is being mediocre in a sectorial full of great shit. They provide a useful and unique function, they just don't provide it all that efficiently. They're not Securitate.

>>52996076
>multiple unlinked Bolts
Sounds like a great idea if you want to waste half your orders on slow short range fuckers.

Speaking of Bolts, I really like their fluff and models; and I'm heading in to play against a couple friends later this week. One plays Haqq; the other usually plays CA but has started up Tohaa and is probably playing them. Is it acceptable to bring a core link of bolts expecting to play against both, or is that too 'list tailory' due to bioimmunity?

>>52978401
What's going to happen to Shasvastii? Any guesses?

Gonna buy a Hac Tao, which one should I get first?

I love the idea of coming out of hidden deployment and murdering someone with an HMG, but also the idea of having a HI unit with a Killer Hacking device to counter enemy hackers sounds nice.

If someone uses a repeater to hack you, can you ARO a hacking program back at them using the enemy repeater penalties?

>>52996342
It's fine. Bolts aren't what I'd call overpowered, and the factions are so versatile in terms of playstyle it's hard to properly list tailor without knowing the actual list.

>>52995992
Throw in his YJ manservant Cato and you're onto a winner.

>>52996476
>If someone uses a repeater to hack you, can you ARO a hacking program back at them using the enemy repeater penalties?

If someone hacks you through your repeater they have firewall penalties, if they hack you through their own, they don't, it doesn't matter what your ARO is.

Obviously if they have a KHD they can ignore the firewall.

I'd buy the Hac Tao Hacker first if only because it's easy enough to proxy him as whatever since he just has a sword.

But I tend to prefer Dao Fei hackers to Hac Tao hackers myself, infiltrating Camo HI Specialist is just nasty.

>>52996676
Let me rephrase the question sorry. My Hac Tao with KHD is chilling. Enemy has a repeater within 8 inches of me and declares some hacking at my Hac Tao. As an ARO can the Hac Tao use the enemy repeater to hack back using his KHD?

>>52996808
oh, yeah you can definitely do that

In fact, if there's an enemy repeater near your Hac Tao and the enemy activates a hacker to do anything at all you get to hack him, because something has activated inside your hacking area.

>>52997438
Ok awesome. The 3 extra points to add that hacking device are worth it then.

The lack of infiltration does suck too, but at least he has that sweet OD Camo. Would hidden deployment only be a benefit if you have second turn and really don't want him to die?

>>52995178
>Stepan Razin for Rodina and Tartary
>not Suvorov
But I'm waiting for Denis Davydov on a motorcycle.

>>52990149
what happened?

>>52995178
Too bad Joan is already taken.

>>52998426
you know that the only true hero of Rodina could be Strilitz.

>>52999111
>kazak with Impersonation Plus
I want it.

Weird question, but does anyone know any artists who take commissions and are familiar with Infinity? I've been thinking of 40K-style battle scenes or OC donut steel bullshit references for the RPG.

>>52999384
>OC donut steel bullshit
I can do that.
Robot-Jones also draw Infinity stuff, but I dunno if he's taking commissions.

>CB makes mango.
>All the good characters die in the first issue.
Glad I didn't pay for that garbage tbqh.

>>52999400
Checked his dA page, he's not taking requests atm. Sounds like he doesn't do commissions from that alone, but no commission info, either. Shame, I like his art style.

Hmm, how are ya at Combined Army gitz or Knights Hospitalliers?

>>52999443
don't tell me they're going for that ASOIAF/TWD-style garbage where named characters randomly die to artifcially amp up tension or yet more fodder for how the authors think the world is bad and only naive people die

Granted, they did call it Outrage for a reason...

>>52999475
I've drawn some knights. Email me with details.
Check my tumblr http://smaggthesmug.tumblr.com/search/infinity+the+game

>>52999443
So much this.

>>52999443
>>52999495
I don't think they intend for Outrage to be a series. It looks like a one-off.
If they intended to do a series, it would be about one of the named characters and their life story I would guess. E.g. Scarface's rise and fall.

>>52999384
You could always just hit up Greenmarine with a "draw this, but with more tits and ass" if you mean female OC donut steels.

>>52999507

Argh, the dinosaur aleph construct pisses me off. They could have gone with a T. rex bio-TAG or a stereotypical Jurassic Park raptor with Impetuous and wielding combi-rifles, but NOOOOOOO. We get a weird scaly fetish Barney thing.

anyway, I'll email you once I'm not dying of sleep exhaustion

>>52995551
The JSA will destroy you one of these days. You're time is numbered.

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>>52999571
>They could have gone with a T. rex bio-TAG or a stereotypical Jurassic Park raptor with Impetuous and wielding combi-rifles
How is that good for comforting children? She's supposed to look cuddly.

>>52999443
Psycho TAG chick was kind of interesting, but the other two were as generic as they come. All of them were obviously designed to die anyway, the only halfway surprising thing was that they all went at once.

>>52999571
It's literally made to look friendly to children. Combi raptor seems more like a Nomad thing anyway, Aleph isn't crazy enough for that.

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>>52986897

>>52999553
oh shit I hope he takes it because one of the OCs in question is A) a way-less-furry Winter Vixen and B) walks around topless because I honestly thought the official Winter Vixen miniature on the Infinity store was topless, due to the chestplate being the same color as her skin and the nipple bulge :V

>>52999585
>>52999602
H-hey, I thought T.rexes and raptors were comforting... ...I may have watched Jurassic Park for too long.

Also, this IS the same faction that based its super-soldier on Achilles, but then again... for some reason, I don't see uplifted dinosaurs in the JP vein as Nomad, even though they're the ones that genemod and genefix out the ass in a way that'd make Eclipse Phase proud.

>>52999681
*too long as a kid

>>52999602
How do they get offed? Too lazy to get scans atm.

>>52999697
Ninja dude and the werewolf get sniped by the issue's villain, the pilot chick gets her TAG's leg disabled by the same sniper and is shot to pieces shortly afterwards by a Yu Jing response force.

>>52999758
Is the villain Yu Jing as well?

>>52998577
A background news report in the manga suggests a massive flood in Caledonia with a 10,000 death tool.

>>52999823
No, he was working for the Druze. He's a cube-based clone of Knauf.

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Another shot from the tournament I've been to. We had really nice tables.

>>52999938
Hey, it's those kickstarted MicroArt things, isn't it?

>>52980068
>spanking
Giraldez is more into that.

>>52994363
>What if ALEPH tried a second Wallace, but for USAriadna? What president would be best?
USAriadna is threatened by invading off-worlders and savage natives, works closely with the Russian-speaking country and has a huge wall around it's capital.
I think ALEPH may have already reincarnated a president for them.

>>52999938
No kidding, don't make me jealous and spend money.

>>52999988
Andrew Jackson isn't around tho.
>>52999681
Raptor with a mohawk out of primal rage would be dope. Probably a pupnik.

>>52981967
Ariadna fights for its independence. In their own soil.
They also collaborate with O-12 sending troops to the Wotan blockade and similar.
Makes sense because if you just have a 9 million population, sending your men to other interesting places will also "spread the seed".

>>52982237
Buy them.

>>52982339
Dude, those Wu Ming look awesome!

>>52995992
Martial Arts Level: Disaster!

>>53000002
Funny enough, I did write up a raptor pupnik (alongside a XCOM-ish snakeman, the original Yautja-based design for the goat pupnik,and a not-hydralisk), albeit a "pure combat. no yiffing" pupniks

>>52996676
"Hack" Tao has a Multi Rifle on his back. Actually one of the better poses I've seen.
>>52997472
The lack of infiltration isn't that bad. Because with one full movement of 8" you get into the range that infiltration usually gets you, but on top of that you get extra armor, extra camo, the benefit of hidden deployment ...

>>52999443

Wait, you thought this would be a long directly connected series? They went through enough trouble trying to get one out. Besides, many of those characters you first see in the seminar reeked of disposable, especially when the mission seemed close to a suicide mission.

>>52999938
I wish my regular games were that scenic.

>>52999938
RUN! There's a giant on the horizon!!

>>53000057
Good taste man. I can maybe see the Uberfall pupniks as being pure and not for lewd...laughing_nomad_sluts.arachne

>>52999443
We were all taking bets on how and what order they would bite the dust. Frankly it was really well done and avoided most of the predictions.

>>53000288
That's just one of them holographic advertisements like in that Ghosts in the Shell movie.

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>>52978401
Heads up whoever gentleman who compiled the manga photos, Page 17 and 18 are in the wrong order in the Manga scan from the OP

>>53000365
>Uberfall pupniks as being pure and not for lewd
You haven't read their fluff, have you?

>>53000482
You must have missed my spoiler.

>>53000466
This whole Manga's in the wrong order. It's supposed be read right to left.

>>53000498
Nah, I just don't read those until my manga gets here.

>>53000536
>Outrage is manga

>>53000648
Reply chain context my dude, but fair enough.

>>52999823
It's wetwork, everyone is the villain.
The catgirls were black hand sleeper agents

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I asked on one of these threads which color to paint the cloak, someone told me grey or brown, I went with grey because my leather browns aren't that adequate.

Anyways, forgot to post Hussein Al-Djabel here too. He's taught me a couple lessons on the meaning of pain when I assembled him. Is the blood effect on his hand too much?

JSA has too many cool units. I can't use them all at once and still be effective. I want to use Oniwaban, Domaru, Aragoto and Asuka, an O-Yoroi, Miyamoto Musashi, Saito Togan, Shikami, Yojimbo, Yuriko and her fantastic linkteam of 3 Keisotsu + one Kempeitai with CoC. Goddamn I just want it all, man.

>>52999384

I Commissioned Weremole for a character pretty much as soon as the RPG was announced, he did good by me--went with the provided references very well.

>>53001584
I agree with you. At least it makes it fun to rotate the units you use in your lists .

ISS has a similar problem in that the perfect 10/10 list (at least for what you specifically wanted to do) is about 10-15 points over.

>>52999572
> Tfw you will never play as a Shinsengumi themed JSA unit during the Japanese Sectorial Army Insurrection that stays loyal to the State Empire and fights against those who espouse the Japanese Emperor, disregarding stability and harmony.

>>52999475
Most of RobotJone's stuff is just things he saw in the thread and decided to draw on a whim.

So I play Ariadna (generic, though I own enough to dabble in the other factions) and Qapu Khalqi; I own some alguaciles for use in both, and a couple mobile brigada and an iguana for my QK. Should I start expanding into Corregidor, since I have those models already? If I did, what should i look at picking up?

>>53004296
Morans, Jaguars, Intruder. Possibly Bandits. Tomcats for sure, can't say no to AD Doc/Engi.

>>52989180
:^)

>>52999938
That's how this shit is supposed to be done.

I need to get my shit together.

>>53004377

Alright then; how do the models I've already got go with JCC? Alguaciles are a pretty standard general line LI, should I grab Loup Balboa and run a link team of them? Mobile seem like a generic HI link; are they overcosted in the sectorial or anything?

Is it worth bringing the Iguana? I know TAGs aren't very popular, at least in my local meta, people usually say they aren't worth it, but I do love them.

>>53000716
Obviously, if Nomads were to insert a sleeper agent...
http://i.imgur.com/8YIXiEP.png

>>52999938
Goddamn that is cool, I am so jealous.
My friends and I played with makeshift everything. We use cans, books, rolls of tape, packaging, all that jazz. It looked awful.

>>53004630
>Alguaciles are a pretty standard general line LI, should I grab Loup Balboa and run a link team of them?
Yes. Lupe is good and has Smoke Grenades, but she's not essential.

>Mobile seem like a generic HI link
They are, with a hacker specialist. The Brigada Pain Train is a good choice for Limited Insertion, although if you're going to run an Iguana, having just one Brigada to act as support is fine.

>Is it worth bringing the Iguana
Note that Iguana carries a repeater on it's back and it is not designed to survive. It is designed to keep going after it inevitably dies.
TAGs were buffed a bit recently by making their pilots specialists, but Iguana is not one of them. On the flipside the Operator still produces an order when the TAG is unconscious and does not evaporate when it is finished off.

Basically what you already have is the backbone. Now you add some meat, like Jaguars with Intruder combo, and some fansier tricks, like Tomcats, Bandits and Morans, maybe a Wildcat Haris if you feel dedicated enough. Don't disregard remotes either. Tsyklons and Lunokhods can put in quite a bit of hurt.

>>53000716
Source on this revelation.

>>53004630
Alguaciles by themselves perform almost exactly as how you'd expect them to. Lupe's a great addition because she adds a specialist for the active turn button pushing duty, as well as having a linked panzerfaust which can be devastating the one turn you use it (unless you refill it with one of your many baggage bots), and mimetism to help win most F2F rolls. Of course, the downside is she's got ten more points over others that can probably find use elsewhere, and Jaguars already take care of the "cheap source with a regular order" niche.

Iguana's worth it for what it is, a pseudo four wounded HMG platform. It can stand up to its fair share of small arms fire and isn't so expensive to not be a major dent in your list, plus you usually don't need an engineer specifically for it as it turns into a HI so it can help save costs by not needing one. You're not automatically losing by taking one. Just, y'know, stay away from the usual hacking, and especially give good distance to monofilament weapons. One main synergy with other Corregidor units it has is having easy access to KHD (Bandit) so that the repeater can have counter hacking against the usual hacker who can try and start something.

As for the Brigada link team, they're not bad, they have an advantage of having a good specialist hacker, it's just the problem that for Nomads Riot Grrrls exist. Multi+LFT is a great Lt option though. Flame throwers come in handy and the actual BS and armor of the model is rather nice.

>>53005002
>it's just the problem that for Nomads Riot Grrrls exist
Not for Corregidor it isn't. Brigada (and Iguana Operator) is their only HI.

>>53005073
I know, that's why I said "Nomads" in general, not JCC. Like, in the sense of "if you're already making a nomad list with five HI, you might as well go for the cheaper option with the same efficency but also with MSV. Like Brigada are not bad, it's just Riot Grrrls are their way over-performing and attractive cousins who ruin the family meetings for you.

>>53004656
Kek, I wanna wreck that catboi pucci.

>>53005149
Yes, but he's going with JCC and already has some models due to QK overlap. Riot Grrls are completely irrelevant to this.

That would be like answering "hey, is ORC HMG good in ASA" with "no, because Swiss Guard is much better".

>>53005182
>>53004656
The Nomads should just blow up Bakunin's home ship.

>>53005207
Hence the other points "they're not bad" and "they have an advantage of a good specialist hacker" the points were made, I was just mentioning how their being overshadowed in the crunch by their cousins is their only problem. JCC has great core link options with Alguaciles and Wildcats so that MB are better off as a single Lt option.

>>53005269
Somehow I can't shake the feeling that, if Corvus Belli were going to blow up one of the Nomad home ships as a major campaign event, it would be Bakunin.

>>53005350
>Not Tunguska so that they wouldn't have to do the damned Sectorial like everyone wants
You underestimate the power of complacency with the current status quo.

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>>53005269
>(You)

>>53005314
>their being overshadowed in the crunch by their cousins
Which is completely irrelevant, because they're in Bakunin. Why even bring them up at all? It's not like the famous Pain Train is unplayable bad. Not to mention Nomad sectorials have almost no unit overlap, so switching between the two is not as easy as, say, PanO ones.

"Brigada's problem is that Riot Grrls exist" is a nonsensical point. Also arguably in vanilla Brigada outshine Riots due to not having Frenzy (but are still not as good at doorkicking as Taskmasters).

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So it sounds like a good first purchase would be, then, a bandit hacker and lupe? Looking at it, with what I currently own, I can bring that out to a 295/5.5 SWC list with those two purchases and what I already have--see pic for what I came up with. Aside from those two, I own everything in the picture, a few more Alguaciles (a hacker, a few combis, and a combi+LGL) and two more brigada (HMG and BSG).

>>53005567
Yeah, pretty much. A bit top-heavy for Nomads, but workable. Pretty good for Limited insertion.

>>53005567
too heavy,the iguana works better in generic,in sectorial try the geckos,if you put a tag dont use those mobile brigada,moran ,jaguars and intruders are a must

>>53005905

Well, like I was saying earlier, I don't have a lot of that stuff yet; I was just pondering what to buy with what I've already got for my Ariadna and QK to get a decent list going, then I was planning to build from there. Or should I not bother with JCC until I have a lot more options?

>>53005567
I'm not a fan of the ML Mobile Brigada. I'd suggest either replacing it with a Multi-Sniper or HMG Intruder, or tweaking the list a bit to take a Moran for added board control and button pushing and to borrow from your other factions and include a remote like the TR or SML (SML has the advantage of being able to boosted to Burst 2 in the reactive phase with a gadget program, and thus have quite the value added with no negative range bands at the cost of being only "AP+DA" instead of "AP+EXP"

Otherwise, at the very least I'd suggest finding a way to upgrade one of the FO Alguaciles to a Hacker, so that you can provide Fairy Dust to your HI and have them less vulnerable to hacking. [that may leave you a point over, so you might have to drop the other FO to do so]

Damned browser crashed three times as I was typing this response

>>53005455
Oh no! How dare I say eight words that help contextualize the Mobile Brigada link as more expensive and less flavorful? [at least as far as HI links go] What a nightmare! What nonsense and madness!

>>53005567
I can dig it, although I'd suggest downsizing one of the mobile Brigada to some cheaper units like remotes, Jaguars, or Morans. Remotes for sure, as you can likely use your Haqqislamite ones in Nomads without people batting much of an eye. Solid start, especially in a limited insertion setting.

>>52979638
>ORCs get Core
>people start playing WAAAGHruna
Imagine.

>>53007452
Do I need to write more paragraphs about ORCs being bad?

This shit is like bolts all over again.

>>53007816
>Do I need to write more paragraphs about ORCs being bad?
No, everyone knows they're bad. In vanilla and NCA.

But unless something new and incredible comes out, ORCs will have no HI competition in Varuna. They already compete pretty well with Guarda de Assalto in ASA, when they're main opposition (Swiss Guard) is gone. And unlike Swiss, an upgrade to Tikbalang is double the cost. Cutters are even more expensive.

I don't know about you, but I'd take a HI Core over a TAG any time. Hell, just look at MO. Even over Cutter (though that may my dislike for mecha speaking).

But still, we don't know what else Varuna will have. Possibly an update to Kamau or some new stuff that are complete game changers. Maybe some new MSV unit with Haris. Maybe flying Remotes, like in one of the RPG illustrations. Maybe even another, cheaper TAG.

>>53007816

but I like bolts, I think they're really cool fluffwise and I like their models.

Tohaa are for ________.

>>53007816
I recall someone winning a major tournament last year (Adepticon or something fuck I don't keep track of this shit) with a Bolt Core list.

>>53008128
I hope he told those cunts to fuck off we're full.

>>53005377
Problem is that Tunguska's the most important ship. Without all the security experts and untraceable bank accounts, all they have are some high-quality mercenaries and a bunch of freaks that nobody would miss. Tunguska's the only reason they haven't had their navigation systems hacked by Aleph to "accidentally" send them careening into the nearest sun, or been blown out of the sky by uppity PanO/Yu Jing corporate interests trying to muscle in on Bakunin's commercial interests.

>>53008120

Threesomes!

>>53008261
I dunno about that. I'd argue Corregidor is the most inportant one for the Sphere, but Tunguska and Bakunin are both essential in keeping the Nation running. Pretty much all miners and Zero-G workers are from Corregidor or at least linked to it. Their leverage is what legitimized Bakunin's claim for independence.

>>53008128
That's because Bolts aren't actually "bad," they're just suboptimal due to having expensive special rules that are only relevant a small fraction of the time. Same thing with Orcs; They're overshadowed by more expensive options that bring more to the table, but they aren't bad. /tg/ just turns every discussion into a echo chamber telephone game where "not as points-efficient as other units" becomes "unplayable shit" after a few posts.

Can I get a purchase list to push the CHA starter set to a viable 150 and then 200 point army list.

>>53008441
At the end of the day, Corregidor just has high-quality mercs/workers going for it. They're good at what they do, but mercenaries are a dime-a-dozen, and people generally dislike/distrust Corregidor workers anyway due to the criminal background. Tunguska's data vaults and secure bank accounts are what really legitimized the Nomad's claim to independence, because even PanO and Yu Jing recognize that having somewhere to store your shadiest shit where Aleph can't find it is vitally important. They just can't openly admit to that, so they claim that Corregidor's workers are why they're willing to accept the Nomad Nation. Bakunin just gets to come along for the ride because they sometimes produce cool shit, and having all the crazies locked up in one place together means nobody else has to deal with them.

>>53008485
The current one or the upcoming new one?

>>53008899
Current one , can't really wait for the new one

>>52995178

Lots of good American options to choose from:

Eisenhower or Washington for a more strat leader
MOV4-2 CC14 BS14 PH12 WIP16 ARM3 BTS0 W1 S2
MSV 1, Strategos L2, Inspiring Leadership, Courage
Multi Rifle

Teddy for combat leader with bike link
MOV8-4 CC18 BS14 PH15 WIP14 ARM4 BTS0 W2 S4
Sixth Sense L2, Courage, Kinematika, MSV1 CoC
MSV 2 Combi Rifle T2 CCW
Fire Team Core: Maverick and desperadoes together


John Basilone Devil Dog because fuck yes

MOV6-4 CC21 BS13 PH16 WIP13 ARM4 BTS3 W2 S6
Natural Born Warrior, Total Immunity, Super Jump, Kinematika L2, Berserk, Aquatic Terrain, Courage

AP HMG, Smoke Grenades, AP CCW something like Points 55 1.5 SWC basically a baby tag

>>53008485
Uxia
Cateran
Volunteer blister with rifle and chain rifle
And find a jsa player to split the dire foes with Isobel in it.

>>53006298
>Oh no! How dare I say eight words that help contextualize the Mobile Brigada link as more expensive and less flavorful? [at least as far as HI links go] What a nightmare! What nonsense and madness!

I think other anon is being a tosspot but, in his defence, it's a bit meaningless because "Riot Grrls exist" is the drawback of every other HI link in the game.

Am getting ready to start a Morat Aggression Force, I have pickup the starter, Rodoks and both Zerat Specialists. I am thinking about getting Pretas, but beyond that, I don't know where to go from there.

Any suggestions?

>>53008485
>William Wallace
>3 boxes of Galwegians

whatever you add after that can't go wrong.

Outrage just came in for me today and I gotta say. .. the model was not packaged like I thought it would be. That tiny crevice from which it popped out surprised me.

>>53000365
>>53000482
Aren't there pupniks that are solely for combat or solely for sex? I know the norm is yiffing, but I vaguely recall that the fluff says there's exceptions.

>>53011589
It is a sniper after all.

>>53000002
also
>primal rage
my man

Though, aren't there furries on Die Morlock Gruppe?

I now want a Necrosan-style horror with fist-wings as a Combined Army goon.

Does anyone have a collection of lore on the Paradiso garrison?

>>53010912
Get a Kornak for Lt and grab two Sogarats for that beautiful link team. Also Dr. Worm. Daturazis for fun brawlin' psycho monkeys. Rasyats can be pretty fun for catching off guard. Zerats are fun for sneaky sneaky monkey business so good getting them.

>>53010912
>Buying Zerats
You shouldn't do this simply so that double boxing tanks in sales and they're forced to make new models.
Fuck CB for being lazy cunts.

Anyway, double soggies is good. Rodoks are also ridiculous.

>>53010912
>>53012034
>>53012108
I'm getting into Morats as well. I skipped on the starter. I'm not a fan of the Vanguard infantry. That's actually why I didn't look twice at the Morats, but the rest of the range is great. I started with Daturazi, Oznat, Hungries, and the Sogarat HMG for an Lt. I think I'm expanding with Rasyat and a Dire Foes box for Treitak. I also have a Raicho, but just because I love putting TAGs together and liked the dynamic pose on the pilot. Oh, I also have a Yaogat sniper... idk why, maybe because it came with an axe?

>>53012457
I love Oznat and Hungriest when it goes right. Morats may not be the most competitive choice but they sure are fun. I love this big ridiculous apes, man.

>>53012498
*Hungries, goddamn phone.

>>53012498
> Hungriest

Silhouette 8 Hungries mega beast fucking when Corvus?

>>53012498
I don't give a fuck about winning ITS tournaments. I have better things to do with my brain than figure out ideal statistical probabilities for soldier dollies.

No spoilers, reading the Manga right now just some random thoughts

>humankind
For some reason I don't like that word.
>I am loath to
ouch, that's like page 4 and there's already a translation error
>skupt
spot the native spanish
>all these shots of emily's rear
Giving this book to someone unfamiliar can pop up some questions like "why is the Russian guy a werewolf?"

anyways, so far so good. I'm like 1/3 through

>>53012544
>I have better things to do with my brain than figure out ideal statistical probabilities for soldier dollies.

Yeah, like post on 4chan and feel superior to other people, you keep doing all those valuable brain things bro.

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>>53011668
Its the scale of yiffiness. Morlocks are a whole lot less illegal than chimeras. They are more xmen mutants than living fursonas. If a daktari is too homicidal I would assume they would be transferred to Morlocks. Then they get more drugs. Daks are 1, Morlocks are 1-2, Pupniks are 3-4, Uberfalls are 6.

Necrosan is a demon dino kerrigan before Blizz made SC2. Like someone r34'd Power Rangers Zed and OG Kerrigan. Good shit.

>>53011638
I am sure there are but when doing degenerate gladiator shit with bio horrors, might as well keep going.

>>53012543
It'll be for Primal Rage 3.

>>53012712
>>I am loath to
>ouch, that's like page 4 and there's already a translation error

Huh? Admittedly I haven't seen the context but this looks right to me...

You know Loath and Loathe have different meanings right? the one without the e is the one you'd use to say you don't want to do something.

>>53012788
>responding to obvious bait

>>53012108
I got them individually. The sniper is okay, but Hacker's weapon is butt ugly compared to everything else I picked up.

>>53012457
I really only got the starter as an easy place to start, plus that lovely Feuerbach. Once I get a few games under my belt, I will replace them.

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Thoughts on a first SAA list splashing over from ALEPH?

So if bolts are bad and orcs are bad, and the main point of playing a sectorial is the link teams, does that mean you basically have to brign a link of fusiliers in NCA?

>>53014326
Yeah, that's EXACTLY the point I was going for. Fusiliers are amazing.

>>53014413
yeah this, don't buff bolts, nerf fusiliers.

>>53014557
oh no, it's retarded

>>53011027
that a bit pricey for what I wanted.
>>53010044
this works point wise but is it actually viable for a game?

>>53014731
>this works point wise but is it actually viable for a game?
Cateran gives you a scary overwatch model. Uxia and the SAS gives you 2 infiltrating camo specialists. The grey linked with the volunteers will be a scary gun fighter, with the wulver and Uxia providing some backup active turn killers.

>>53014326
ORCs are standard, not bad, Haris helps them out.

Bolts are not bad, but they are unfocused and lack the synergy that, for example, Bagh Maris have. Baghs play right into PanO strength of winning by shooting: MSV1, mimetism. Bolts have better BS, BTS, and abilities that are situationally very useful but also costly.

Versus the abundance of Shock weapons, Bolts tell it all to fuck right off and gimp Haqq/Tohaa Viral stuff. So being tanky fuckers is a plus. Which is good because their weaponry heavily skews towards closer ranges where they want to grab territory midfield and bunker down, this is where you have fun stuff like mines hanging around or jackasses with red furies to deal with. Use drop bears to bully infiltrators/minelayers, shotgun warbands and skirmishers, call people cunts.

Next thing that goes into this midfield play is veteran, so if your LT bites the dust you still have Bolts generating orders and can pull some clutch objective plays or whatever. Also lets you go ham with an aggressive Lt as part of your overall plan.

So this sounds pretty cool but they are only situationally useful at best. Bioimmunity is useful versus 2 out of ~18 types of ammunition that can come their way. Best way not to die from crazy bullets or bukkake guns is to not get shot in the first place. Vet runs into this same exact problem, relying on things going wrong for you for it to be useful.

So tldr, Bolts are good where their BTS comes into play, holding middle board objectives, scenarios like biotechvore, and saving your ass from total LoL.

Fusiliers are easily the best defensive LI Core around, no doubt.

>>53013608
This actually reminds me, Bipandra needs a fuckin update badly. If she could link with Fusiliers and Bolts, it would further help out the Bolts to be tanky fucks.

>>53014557
Someone worked out the math on Bolts getting hit by shock ammo and getting their bioimmunity on.

It's worse than just having fucking Mimetism and not being hit at all slightly better.

Bolts aren't good. Not unplayable, but they're definitely on the low end of bang-for-your-buck. Even the Drop Bear guy's outclassed by the Blackfriar, who gets so much more for 3 points.

>>53015420
>Next thing that goes into this midfield play is veteran, so if your LT bites the dust you still have Bolts generating orders and can pull some clutch objective plays or whatever
Also makes them completely immune to E/M, which is nice. Bolts can wade through non-mono mines without giving a single fuck. I think a significant part part of their usefulness against Haqq is the ability to ignore all the fancy horseshit Ghazi can do.

>>53015435
Friars and especially Locusts getting drop bears effectively free of charge really cramped the Bolts' style desu. I hope they get that same discount when they get updated, or maybe even get them as standard for the combi+LSG profiles. LT or paramedics with drop bears would be sweet.

>>53015665
But they still die to mines if they fail an 8+? I'd hardly call that a massive improvement. Also dieing when they fail a 12+ to a chainrifle is hardly ignoring ghazi.

Bolts make excellent locust proxies at least.

>>53015665
Good catch, its 1AM so I knew I was forgetting something.

>>53015735
>But they still die to mines if they fail an 8+?
7+
You're still dodging, of course. You should always dodge mines, even a TAG is taking a risk by not dodging a mine. But a 1 in 5 chance to fall unconscious is significantly better than a 1 in 3 chance to die instantly.

>Also dieing when they fail a 12+ to a chainrifle is hardly ignoring ghazi
That's why I specified the fancy horseshit. Ghazi being able to isolate people through walls and disable big dudes with E/M direct templates is the reason they're so loved by Haqq players and hated by everyone else. Chain rifles are just the same basic shit everyone gets, if that's all Ghazi can do to you then that's a significant part of their threat gone.

>>53012712
>Not liking Emily's rear.

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Specula

Invincible Army Sectorial

Zhanshis will most likely be able to form a Core or become part of a core of some sort. Our other Sectorials have lots of mixed Cores and Haris teams.

What do you think you will see?

Haris: Zuyongx2+Hsien
Core: Zhanshis+ Either Hsien/Zuyong/Shang Ji
Core: Zuyong pain train
Duos: Shang Ji,Su Jian, possibly Zuyong

Hilarious wish:
Haris: Guijia+2 remotes

>>53016912
Well we know tiger soliders are their drop troops.

>>53016924
That's already a positive.

Is it just me or are Tiger Soldiers dangerous?

>>53016912
I doubt Hsiens or any other agents will be in IA. Same with Su Jian. Those are ISS territory. Daofei or Hac Tao (probably not both) might be in there though, as a token sneaky HI for the HI sectorial.

For links I'm estimating Zhanshi, Zuyong and Shang Ji core, Shang Ji haris and Shang Ji duo. Zuyong and Shang Ji may be able to combine in some way.

I'm expecting a lot of the fancier links to include new units designed with the sectorial in mind.

Have Lunah's stats leaked yet?

>>53017030
Like a Zhanshi Gui Feng character ala Yuriko?

Make him a fucking medic.

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Newsflash:
Bostria was at a small Infinity local event this last weekend. He told to the players a few things:

- Strikezone Wotan coming on Mid May.
- Previous 300pts boxes going to be discontinued every time a new one is released.

and...

Big CB announcement video happening this Friday May 5th dropping some HUGE news.

>>53018881
>- Previous 300pts boxes going to be discontinued every time a new one is released.
As in "a new Tohaa box will be eventually released, superseding the current one", or "USARF box will be superseded by a 300pt box for *insert random sectorial* because muh SKUs"? Because the latter is retarded.

>>52986556
S-sauce?

>>53019069
The manga.

>>53019040
The retarded one.

Anyway, USARF is not a 300pts box.

>>53019125
>Anyway, USARF is not a 300pts box.
>implying they're not gonna treat it as one

>>53019114
Ok.
What manga?

>>53019174
The Infinity one.

>>53016948
Tiger Soldiers are straight up the best combat jump troop in the game (no, frak off Gao Tarsos, you don't have BS 13 and mimetism and a LFT or a Spitfire option). Not just you.
>>53016912
I'm personally expecting Zhanshi to be just AVA 3 like Fusiliers. Definitely no ISS units like the Hsien nor Su Jian.

If the Domaru Butai+Haramaki are any precedent, I'd expect the Core fireteam to be 1 to 2 Shang Ji plus Zuyong for the rest.

>>53019174

Outrage by Kenny Ruiz, Victor Santos, Phillip K Dick, and Masamune Shirow

>>53019164
Mmmm.... I don't think so... the USARF box has terrain, dice, rulebook.... it's quite different. I mean, it was a GenCon special release, not just a Re-Pack wich is what ONYX essentially is.

>>53019269
I'd say AVA4 or 5 is more likely than 3. MO has total AVA Order Sergeants to compensate for the fewer Fusis, IA would have nothing like that so a link worth of Zhanshi is sort of necessary as a cheapo option.

Domaru/Haramaki aren't really a precedent. They're basically a joint unit, much like Magisters and order knights. Cheap EX impetuous dudes with defensive weapons led by more expensive disciplined dudes with more offensive weapons and utility.

>>53019382
>Joint Unit
I wouldn't be so eager to call it that. Because in the Haramaki's description it goes:
>It is also undeniable that, in character and behavior, they are the antithesis of the sober Domaru.
One of the few things that weirded me out a bit with HSN3 was the necessary mixed team of Haramaki and Domaru because with the fluff it seemed like Domaru has a small disdain for Haramaki being all flamboyant and bodacious. That blurb about how they're opposites doesn't quite strike me as
>These troopers are committed to and trust one another so strongly that any one of them can take leadership of the team at any moment
like fireteams are normally described. Either way, there's only a few invincible units, the precedent is the one with Duo (Shang Ji) mixing with the cheaper less elite option.

>>53019468
I think the idea behind it is that Haramaki are too undisciplined and retarded to make a coordinated team by themselves and they need to be kept in line by the more level-headed Domaru. And I meant joint unit in a crunch perspective more than fluff. Domaru don't have any long range ARO weapons while Haramaki don't have any high burst active weapons.

The Haramaki/Magister situation is very specific, and it's not something that really applies to Invincibles since Shang Ji and Zuyong aren't impetuous (with the associated point discount) and both have a complete set of loadouts with specialists, offensive weapons, defensive weapons and tinbots.

>>53019468
Haramaki are showboating fools and Domaru must keep them in line, lest they run off and get themselves killed trying to fight an entire team alone for fame and glory. Domaru would not act as a Haramaki would, and would not allow them to be the fools they want to be.

>>53019992
They're not bad, but there are only 2 worthwhile orders of knights for the most part (Hospitaller and Santiago) and a lot of people don't like that. If you're in it for Montesas, play ASA. If you like Sepulchre Knights or Seraphs, you're better off with vanilla. If you want to play Teutons, give up now.

But if Magisters and Hospitallers/Santiagos are your boys then MO is the right place. They have access to an incredible link for a relatively low price, and some decent supporting troops in the form of Order Sergeants (cheerleaders, pseudo-Auxilia and most importantly infiltrating specialists), Crusaders (AD troops with a multi rifle, fantastic suppressive fire) and Black Friars (MSV with a bunch of fun toys).
Don't get the starter, it's not very good. Magisters should be among the first purchases, and Santiagos or Hospitallers after that. Order Sergeants are also a good investment, and as always remotes are excellent.

>>53019992
>>53020258
Oh! I was wondering if Linda was some kind of slang for poor quality I didn't know about.

MO is in a weird spot. They're a faction that in my experience new players and neophytes get attracted to, start and play wrong, and later discouraged to eventually quit because they don't like the game (where in actuality they shouldn't have started in the sectorial or haven't learned to fully play) or rightly go generic to tone down on the knights and field lots of other good PanO units like Nisses.

They're not actually bad though (besides reiterating how Teutons are in a bad spot)

The main gist is captured by
>>53020185

>>53019992

List 1: Joan+Ferson+3 Hospitaliers for a tanky fireteam with button pressers and hacker coverage.

List 2: 4 Magisters+1 Hospitalier button presser for ten cheap wounds that cast shade on your infiltrating Specialist Sergeants.

List 3: 4 Knights of the Holy Sepulchre, because it'd be hilarious.

List 4: Fusilier Lt, Santiago Duo, and seven TO Camo Spec Sergeants in hidden deployment.

>>53020371
What would be a good way to start PanO knowing that I want to expand mostly into MO. Icestorm is obvious, but what comes next? (Also sorry for deleting the posts)

>>53021153
Well, the usual answer of "Remotes boxes" and the support pack (at least for the servant bots). The shiny new box of Order Sergeants (if you plan to play MO, you're going to learn to love the Sarges).

Crusaders if you like Airborne Deployment.

Tech-Bee and crabbot if you plan on taking the T.A.G. (as a bonus, if and when you field Joan of Arc, she provides a really cheap regular order from Joan's Inspiring Leadership.)

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What are everyones' favorite generic units? I love the O-Yoroi Pilot, this Corregidor Bandit, and all the Domaru.

>>53021575
Maverick girl, Airborne ranger and Hardcase are my favs.

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>>53021575
One and only WIIIIILDCAAAATS

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>Corvus Belli has linked a tutorial to converting ORC MR into HMG on their FB page

It's like they literally don't want anyone to buy the repack.

>>53021575
Fusiliers,ORCs,Unidrons

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>>53021575
Honestly, part of the charm of Infinity for me is that all the troops look like they can be characters. With the order system and skirmish level gameplay, anyone can be the hero.

>>53021575
I take it you're meaning aesthetically. I paint Haqqislam, Yu Jing, and Nomads so those are my main interests. In order a particular order that I don't want to explain right now:

>That one female Naffatun throwing a grenade.
>The Black Alguacil with Cornrows in Icestorm
>The Ram Pupnik
>Tokusetsu Doctor (because I've a thing for hats)
>Boarding Shotgun and Mohawk Jaguar
>Female Domaru with her swords out from the modern box
>Weibing Remote
>Wu Ming HMG
>Hassassin Fiday boarding shotgun.
>Hsien
>Hac Tao
>Reverend Custodier
>Intruder Multi-Sniper
>Tiger Soldier Spitfire

THE ONE ABOVE ALL: The Battlefoam Exclusive Yuan Yuan (because it combines lots of things I have an explained love for, namely Yu Jing Armor, Airborne Deployment troops, Pony Tails on men, and a Crusader sword).

Honorable mentions from factions I don't paint:

>Speculo Killer
>Fraacta
>USA Grunts
>modern style ORC troop (mostly because of that Varuna scheme, otherwise the father knight)
>Sophotect (probably getting one soon, I just would hate to buy the AI beacons I don't need)
>Kerail Preceptors (although, if I were to admit, it's because it barely looks Tohaa)

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>>53022185
>>The Ram Pupnik
I've had some furries tell me that he's the sexiest of the lot

>>53022296
Presumably it looks the least cybernetic and best proportioned.

>>53021575
Sculpt wise?
Hac Tao HMG/hacker, Oniwaban, Zuyong, male Brigada, Iguana, Custodier combi, Bandit hacker, Al Fasid, Zhayedan, Antipode Assault Pack, FK, Joan LE, Cutter.

>>53023232
>Joan LE
I'm pretty sure the poster meant non-character with "generic"

>>53021972
Or that they happened to come across it when looking up reactions to the ORC repack on social media and blogs.

I remember getting retweeted once by CB's twitter. Was a highlight of that day for me.

>>53022296
Does the chimera fuck the pupniks?

>>53023608
No, other people do. The Moderator Corps would probably frown upon that.

>>53023628
>Moderator Corps

Aren’t they a bunch of killjoys...

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C'mon CB, just give us the stats already. I want to know if its yet another useless sniper. I don't need a reminder of how weird McMurrough used to look and some cutesy "death to infidels" from Joan.

>>53023608
A spectator usually has sex with them because "as at the end of the fight its excitation levels are very high due to adrenalin and the taste of blood"

>>53023732
I can't wait for her terribly underwhelming stat line. Marksmanship Level X, Kinematika, I-kohl, and E-Mitter here we come.

>>53023779
You forgot Impetuous.

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>>53023732
>"as at the end of the fight its excitation levels are very high due to adrenalin and the taste of blood"

Infinity? More like Fapfinity!

(also, I skimmed the comic pics, not only are all the characters obviously insuferable cunts and you don’t even need to read the dialogues to know that, but there just isn’t enough material to jerk off to which is the only value people get from Infinity, so the comic is clearly a failure)

>>53022822
Bio engineered satanic war goat is pretty rad, the cheetah is a close second. Fox just doesn't cut it from a thematic and sculpt quality standpoint. You wouldnt pick a fight with a normal ram or cheetah, but foxes are cute and puntable. Also the fox shares too much with the chimera, since vixen is literally female fox.

Other mammals you dont want to mess with but distinct from the other two pupniks:
>Wolverine
>Boar
>Wolf but thats already taken
>Baboon, also sorta taken
>Hyena
>Bear

>>53023697
No fucking the Corps property. Unless its for the job.

>>53021575
iguana
gecko
umbra samaritaans
auxilia and neo terran bolts

>>53023779
I'm banking on that thing on her shoulder being a panzerfaust or medikit.

Medikit moreso because of that farmer's Bureau post from Bostria about medic sniper old ladies.

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>>53024018
>No tree porcupine
>No short-tailed shrew
>No tamandua
>No fucking platypus

Need venom and maximum pain.

>>53024204
>platypus pupnik
Now there's something I didn't know I needed until today.

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>>53021575
The Metros

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And tho' no costly marble slab
Rests o'er their lowly bed;
Deep in our Empire's heart we shrined
YuJings Glorious Dead!

>>53024377
As long as you won the battle Anon. Those Wu Ming were criminals anyway.

>>53024018
>>53024204
Not super scary, but you can get a Were Armadillo from Reaper.

>>53023732
>Death to Infidels...

Zzzz...

>>53024204
I actually thought about the platypus and porcupine. But venom could be approximately equated to either poison or viral, and wanted to avoid that nitpick. Again, i was trying for something like the fox and different from the ram or cheetah. Hippos, deer, other big cats were not listed for obvious reasons. Hippos are just too goofy looking, I dont care how dangerous they are. Rhinos and deer would be in ram territory.

I figure since Wolverines are the Doomguy of the animal kingdom they would be good for a pupnik.

But my vote is still for a tiger striped mohawk raptor.

>>53024419
Was a draw. Tohaa scum. First encounter with symbio-shenanigans. This was a Sukeuls work, and he got away. A new Item for the black list.

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>>53024292

>>53024018
I would kill for Puppets war or some other company to make "notNiks" who are all sharks. I tried buying wereshark minis from Reaper but they were all WAYYYY too big.

Where can I find Infinity fluff?

>>53026058
Read the OP. Also the manga, kinda.

>>53023732
>you can paint her as you wish
kinky!

>>53024861
Yeah, Sukeul are assholes. Looking at their stuff I am amazed with what they are allowed to keep on their kit. Even their long range options are perfectly viable close in with breaker pistols and even an LS on the missile launcher.

I feel dirty packing 2 in a list and would not be surprised to see some others with full AVA.

>>53021575
Sculpts?
Aleph: Achilles (old), Marut, Penny bootleg
Ariadna: Chasseur rifle, Tankhunter autocannon, Mirage 5, Zouaves (all)
CA: Drones (old), Seed-Soldiers, Kurgat autocannon, Caskuda, Anathematic
Haqq: Boss Hafza, Halqa, Azrail Feuerbach, Hunzakut (sniper and LGL)
Mercs: ABH sniper, Valerya, fem Yuan, fat Yuan
Nomads: Interventor (the iconic one), Chimera, Alguacil sniper (old), Morlock (shades)
PanO: Cutter, Trauma-Doc
Tohaa: Chaksa Auxiliars (SHRL, HMG)
Yu Jing: Yaokongs, Oniwaban, Shang Ji, Yan Huo 2ML, Guilangs, Hsiens (gen2), Pheasant (CCW/sniper), LE Oyo pilot

>>53023732
>B-but all Yu Jing players will love her! R-right?
Unless she has absolutely disgustingly good profile, nah, I'm not interested in yet another visored sniper, with a mediocre mini to boot.
If she does have absolutely disgustingly good profile, I'll shit on her because auto-includes and power creep and becoming GW.
You can't win this one, CB.

>>53023732
JSA here, I don't love her. Though I also don't consider myself a Yu Jing player.

>>53026866
You see this? And they wonder why we don't give them full citizenship.

>>53025271
Noice.

is there any decent way to just get one or two sculpts out of a box without buying the entire box?

>>53026721
What if they just give her a fuckin sniper rifle instead of a MSR?

>>53027354
There are some people who buy boxes to sell the minis separately, can't recall exactly who or what site though.

>>53027354
Cho

On Shaekonnit games.

or
splitting with a real life friend

>>53026955
Your end is coming, Chinese dog. The Land of the Rising Sun shall rise again.

>>53027527
I've already got the ABH sniper which is cheaper AND prettier.

All I really want is a Sectorial that lets me bring Guilangs.

>>53028150

Authorized Bounty Hunter?

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>>53028159
White Banner Army muh man. Should hit the same time Svalarheima, so the major rule book release after the upcoming N3 Paradiso update, so check back in ten years.

>>53028271
Will Paradiso have a new sectorial for each faction?

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>>53028584
Yes, latest seminar info and rumors (some from Bostria himself at various events) lay it out as follows. They said late last year every faction will get one sectorial in the Paradiso N3 update.

> PanO: Varuna
> Yu Jing: Invincible Army
> Ariadna: Kazaks
> Haqqislam: Caliphate
> Nomads: Tunguska
> Combined: Redone Shasvastii
> ALEPH: Vedic
> Tohaa: Something, Bostria said a 'non-human sectorial' will get access to Yuan Yuans, so maybe Triumvirate.

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>>53027927

New Thread

>>53029278

>>53028181
What else?

>>53028669
Vedic, Varuna and Invincible Army make me rock-hard. Core link Kamau and Zuyong are super sexy and the pure potential for bullshit in Vedic is staggering.
Tohaa sectorial is weird and not really needed, I feel. I mean, what's the point? Linkable camels? I can hardly contain myself. That said a Sygma sectorial that uses some Tohaa and Sygma troops mixed would be interesting.

STOP IN THE NAME OF THE ORDER OF SANTIAGO