/swg/ Give peace a chance Edition

What spaceships from other sci-fi games would fit in to star wars without feeling out of place

STAR WARS
EPISODE TG: A NEW REEEEEEE-

It is an age of political shitposting. Luke, did I ever tell you about the fapping starships? It is theorized that they held Snoke, a Grey Jedi. In fear over Mice and Shevkles, Bendu lays in hiding.

In victory over the shitposting, there may one day be actual tabletop discussion. But that time will not come while glorious Kriea engages in ace combat. All of which pales in comparison to the shittiest Star Wars movie: The Ewok Movie. A Pheonix Squadron Pilot expresses Dark Greetings shortly before his death. A death that could have been prevented if someone hadn't put "Star Wars" in the OP.

Wedge Antilles hops on one transparisteel leg towards Sienar to engage in Professional wrestling. Space /k/ arrives shortly after, to debate about actual tabletop discussion With Ahsokafags. A certain light-side Sith is indeed a Mary Sue. In the end the Nucanon vs. Legends arguments can only be decided with silly lightsabers

>>52940381
Nothing.

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So what would have happened if Vader had survived the events of ROTJ?

>>52941327
Probably would have turned to the light and helped Luke train the next generation of Jedi. Kylo wouldn't be an angsty little bitch and would probably be obsessed with someone else

>>52940288
So looking at the Store Championship prizes, I really want the Agent Kallus token, and that means I need to place in the top 2 out of 64.

there's a store around ~1 hour away from me that is having one in a couple weeks, and I want to know how many levels of meta I should go in.

I want to fly Empire, and I know people there will be aware of the world's results.

Do I prepare to see a lot of what won worlds?

Should I prepare to beat what beats what won worlds?

Should i try to beat what beats the thing that beats the thing that wins worlds?

Or do I just say 'fuck it' and fly a crackswarm?

In the mean time, how do you effectively deal with 'Rebel Good Shit' lists as empire? (Some mix of Corran, Biggs, Stressbot/hog, Ahsoka, and Miranda.) Same thing for Kanan-Biggs.

>>52936557
If you do win that and I don't, I'm looking for a kallus token...

>>52940381
The Serenity might. It disobeys the same laws of physics, and looks more analogue than digital. All it needs is a hyperdrive.

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>>52940910
>>52860852

You have done well, my young apprentice.

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>>52940381
Wing Commander 3 and 4.

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>>52940910
>>52942585
Post ur favorite Star Wars meme in this ebin bread and win free upboats

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>>52940288
Had my players on a cruise ship make first contact with a 'possible' Imperial contact who had a lot of information regarding some prisoners they wanted to extract, they had a heck of a time trying to find him and not reveal to other imperials just who they where. Just for the 'oh fuck' factor I threw in Sienar's grandmother taking a liking to one of them in the cabin next to one of the characters, batshit crazy, needed someone to play Bridge (or the equivalent) with and personal security that was discretely terrifying.
Course at the end of the game revealed that she was completely lucid and they never did quite figure out if she was onto them or just an old lady that needed some companionship
There was also the theft of sundry ships items on an industrial scale...

>>52940381
Battlestar Galactica and possibly Bab5

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>>52942868

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If a lightsaber blade is just a contained blaster bolt.

And if that contained blaster bolt can reflect other blaster bolts.

Then will two blaster bolts intersecting mid-air reflect each other?

And could a Jedi with sufficient foresight armed with a blaster shoot other blaster bolts mid-air and reflect them into other opponents?

>>52942945
We covered that in the Jedi blaster thread.

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>>52942945
In a not-so-serious game?

Absolutely. In fact, it ought to be more or less mandatory, now that you've come up with the idea.

>>52942945

If you're playing Darths and Droids, sure. You've basically given the logic for it.

>>52942926
Bsg is too low tech. no sheilds, uses tube hangers

>>52942975
Either recap the consensus of the thread or link to the archive. Just mentioning that it was covered once weeks or months ago is a worthless contribution.

>>52943072
It's literally on the fucking board right now, dipshit.

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>>52943021
Stick whatever stats you want on them, its your game

>>52940288
My players had a recent peaceful interaction with Imperials, in which the players saved a wounded stormtrooper from dying, and then used the stormtrooper's CO to gain access to a facility they otherwise would have had to kill the stormtroopers to access.

The governor figured out what happened, though, and sent gunships. The stormtrooper CO intentionally put his men in harm's way to help the PCs escape - a debt repaid.

It went well.

It wouldn't have, had the stormtroopers known that the PCs were Rebels.

>>52940381
The Serenity and the Bebop would probably fit.

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>>52941561

>>52942445
You have to prepare to beat the list that beats the list that beats the list that beats the list that beats the list that beats the list that beats the list that beats the list that wins worlds.

No more, no less.

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>>52943695
Meanwhile, deep within the corporate vaults of Krylonus Prima VII...

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>>52943563
AoR is great for those Letters from Iwo Jima/Hacksaw Ridge style moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht0UX_KZpuY

My party's scout trooper found a wounded rebel hiding out in a closet in an abandoned building. It was a warzone so the rebel of course freaked out when the player said "I pull something out of my belt" only to reveal it was a stimpack, and he gave it to the rebel.

They later figured out they were from the same planet, and the scout and the rest of the party bonded with him while holding the building awaiting further orders.
The rebel turned out to be a sergeant and gave the party intel on nearby artillery positions in exchange for release. Thanks to 2 Triumphs, I also made a point later that the party squad lead got contacted and told that the rebel guns weren't shooting as expected, like someone had told them to stop.

For that the party didn't report seeing the rebel sergeant's described ship leave the planet.

I dunno, maybe I'm just a sucker for exploring the human side of war, even in a space opera of space wizards. It can be powerful and emotional.

>>52937330
Tbqh I always assumed that the Force is more of the dark and light half of yourself. Fuck the cancer and other shit. If you do good actions, you're light, if you're a moustache twirling planet destroyer, you're dark.

>>52943021
He probably means just the appearance. Cylons would fit well would droids, hell there's a certain class of droids that's basically the metal Terminators. Vipers fit well as Incom ships and the Battlestars would work well as Rendili ships.

>>52943307
And yet you couldn't link to it. That's two useless 'contributions' now bud.

>>52941327
Probably judged for warcrimes by an alliance military tribunal

>>52940288

Stuff like this is much less likely to happen in a civil war because everything is much more personal.

Where do you guys watch Rebels?

Armada question: When do you activate critical effects?
Would Overload Pulse plus and Avenger ISD mean no defense tokens could be used?

>>52943695
You'd think if Vader reformed and went out of his way to remake his suit, he'd make the mask something other than a skull.

>>52940288

My character in Edge of the Empire is a former Imperial Ace who was honorably discharged for political reasons and now makes her money as a merc. She hates the rebels and thinks of them as foolish self-absorbed idealists fighting shoulder to shoulder with ISIS-tier terrorists. She would rather fuck a wookie than work with a rebel.

>>52946205

Crit effects go before damage, but after the defender's defense tokens - you aren't the first to look at OP Avenger that way though. You'll need another ship to trigger an OP crit before Avenger shoots.

Wait for a little for wave 6 and then you'll be able to use boarding troopers to exhaust the enemy tokens for an Avenger smash.

Post your list.

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>>52946312
I'm a totally new so please don't be harsh.

But then I should probably put something like Ion Canon Battery on the ISD instead of the Overload Pulse?

>>52944571
OP of the post you linked, I actually play D6. RPGs in general are great for exploring the human side of conflict.

>>52944610
This is the correct interpretation, except it's even more simple: love = light, hate = dark. This is why the Jedi failed.

>>52946289
That could be arranged.

>>52946442

Ion cannon batteries are pretty good, out of the damaging ions they're one of the best right now. Usually you'd want Leading Shots on the ISD so you can apply rerolls to your red dice - that's less critical here because Vader can hand out rerolls. You've got the Intel/XI7/Gunnery combo going on and that's good.

The bad news is pretty bad though, your fighter screen is kinda weak, and only two activations will put you through the ringer really fast. Most fleets currently run 4 - 5 or more activations with two of the those being the heavy hitters and the others being support ships/cheerleaders, usually with either dedicated anti-fighter or bomber support.

>>52946587
>Con't

I'd recommend stripping down the VSD first - without Moff Jerjerrod commanding the fleet they lack the maneuverability to be a gunship. That said they can be a pretty adequate carrier. Something like:
VSD-1
Flight Commander
Flight Controllers
Expanded Hangers
It can rally your squads and then punch anything that tires to get close and disrupt them.

Second, you need more activations badly. For the empire that means Gozantis. I usually take the cheap ones and then put com nets on them so they can support the bigger ships with AA and tokens. Raiders can also work for filling out a fleet, you put Ordnance Experts on it, and then either Assault proton Torpedoes or Flechette Torpedoes (the former for anti-ship, the latter for anti-squad).

As far as squadrons go, Imperials play anti-squad really well. At it's most basic you get Fel, Mithal, Dengar, and Howlrunner, a couple of advanced for cover, then load up on fighters or interceptors. Howl gives all you ties extra dice, Mithal puts damage on everyone just for engaging, Dengar keeps Mithal reengaging every turn for max damage AND gives everyone Counter 1 (which gets the extra dice from Howl), and Fel hurts anyone who shoots the covering advanced, or any of the other aces that aren't him (and assuming he is in range of Howl and Dengar, gets to retaliate with 4 blue dice against anyone without Snipe that shoots him).

>>52946587
>>52946683
Would you recommend picking up 2 raiders?
I have none right now.
I could strip squardron upgrades and everything but the title and lasers on the victory?

>>52946683

Also, one other thing - Arquitens work very well with Vader due to their redundant defense tokens. You just take the basic cruiser, add you choice of turbolasers and then concentrate fire all day long, using Vader for rerolls on those fickle red dice.

What would be a fair cost for a cybernetic that gave you an additional arm, or pair of arms? Building a bounty hunter, and I want to take the kit modification to the extreme, and have them modify themselves as much as they can.

Besalisk and Xexto are both 85 xp, with a 3/1/1 stat adjustment. That's effectively 35 xp for an extra manuever per turn.

Should the cybernetic take up more than one slot? or just be really expensive. Should there be setback dice using those arms for a long time (or forever), given the invasive nature of adding appendages?

>>52946713

Yeah, 2 is a sweet spot for raiders (it's how many I got). They make good little hunters, capable of threatening much larger ships if used right. The thing to keep in mind is when they move in to attack they absolutely cannot take a hit. 6 damage can pop one from full health, so make sure that they avoid the enemy's best firing arcs if at all possible. If you are fixed on using Avenger, the Raider-II has an ion cannon slot and can be used as an OP delivery system to set up for the ISD, but beware that move telegraphs itself really hard and is totally dependent on the raider going first and the ISD being able to shoot the same target after.

In terms of stuff to get, you absolutely want a Gladiator if you don't already have one. The Glad, specifically with the Demolisher title is a mainstay of Imperial list and is capable of death punching much larger ships. This is because the Demolisher can take one of its shots AFTER MOVING, leading to the infamous triple tap - the last activation of the turn, Demo moves up and shoots, the takes first activation next turn, putting two more shots into its hapless target before moving out of danger.

Seriously, something like 80% of Imp tournament fleets use it, it's that good.

>>52946814
Glad was my first additional purchase together with the Interdictor.
After I got Core and ISD at start.

So 2 Raiders and a gozanti would be a good pick up?

>>52942445
There will be people flying whatever wins worlds. Most of those lists take some skill to fly well, so don't expect the same level of efficacy.

Store Champs are generally more laid back, more local, more experimental. Fly what you're comfortable with and you should be fine.

>>52946713

Yeah, gut the victory - it works best as a carrier and the points saved will get you more squads.

To expand of the victory, it's vulnerable because of 2 things - its speed and its defense tokens.

At speed 2 with only single click turns the impressive frontal battery is usually wasted. A canny opponent can blow by you easily and you'll never be able to get the guns to bear for that killing shot. Konstantine and Tractor Beams can help by slowing the enemy down, but Moff Jerjerrod is the only way to make a Vic turn faster.
Second, as I said, the defense tokens are weak. One accurate result to pin you brace, add XI7 turbos, and attacks will drill straight in to hull almost immediately. Adding a defensive retrofit via Minister Tua can get you a little more survivability, but you still won't be able to go toe to toe with an MC80 or ISD.

That said, I do have one build of Victory that's terrible but hilarious when it works:
VSD-1
Dominator
Expanded Launchers
Ordnance Experts
XI7 Turbolasers
If the stars align and you catch someone ahead of you at short range you can unload more firepower than an ISD into them.
The odds of that happening are pretty slim, but you can can pull some good area denial with it, or get the enemy to focus on it to the exclusion of other things.

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>>52946914

Yes, that's a good idea. Another Victory isn't a bad idea (this after I was just bashing it) - it come with some good upgrades (like the almighty flight controllers) and ADMIRAL MOTTI.

Motti is the best commander the empire has - he's cheap, and as long as he is alive all of your ships get extra hull points based on size class (1 for smalls, 2 for mediums, and 3 for large).

You put him on an ISD with Reinforced Blast Doors, and you opponent with have to push 17 damage past your shields and defense tokens to actually kill him.

Add a second ISD with RBDs and then laugh.

Add a third and then realize you have gone too far and spent too few points on squadrons.

I've got to go to work now, I hope you found this somewhat helpful.

>>52947017
Thanks Anon!

>>52940381
Oldschool Elite could work well I think, based off the game and the Holdstock story. The new game's ships feel a bit too slick for me, but they could represent a shipbuilding tradition we haven't seen much of yet.
Note that going by that story (_The Dark Wheel_) Elite ships can be multicrew, at least Cobra Mk IIIs.

>>52942945
Only sporadically lurking but our local campaign (WEG) has a minor, emerging Force user faction use blasters.
IIRC they use blasters instead of lightsabers, magic crystal is needed, you shoot with a separate DEX skill, Control adds to damage and you can defend with your force-shooty skill instead of dodge and such.

>>52943021
Eh, if I did a BSG inspired school of ship design I'd just give them poor speed, massive armor and only light shield. If I wanted to get Vong style funky I'd give them no shields at all and insane point defense.
(I'd run it in WEG or Savage Worlds so it should work)
As for the hangars that's actually good defense wise.

>>52940381
Halo 1-3 ships would fit, UNSC ships as ancient/low-tech ships, like rebels or pirates might use, and some of the covenant ships would make decent alien ships

Malachor V was justified.

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>>52948334
delet this

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>>52941327
Honestly, being tried by a war tribunal after the war and at best sentenced to exile, where Luke follows his father to form a new order of Jedi. At worst, he'd be sentenced to Death, which would be his own release.

>>52948641
Dude. What the fuck?

>>52940288
The German Officer in the movie is a total dead ringer for Agent Kallus

>>52948821
That's Star Wars: Infinities: Return of the Jedi. Think along the line of Marvel's What If? books.

The Infinities books had some pretty batshit off-the-wall stuff happen.

I'm still annoyed they never did any Infinities for the prequels.

>>52940288
Why didn't Dooku just kill Obi-wan and capture Anakin in RoTS?

>>52948641
Vader would probably launch a suicide mission. Exile and execution don't seem like the ways he'd want to spend the last moments of his life. He'd try to make up for lost time with Luke and Leia, then go on a never-ending crusade against warlords, crime syndicates, and slavers alongside the 501st until attrition or age took them.

>>52948939
Why would the 501st follow him into defection?

>>52949014
Because the 501st and Vader are bros. The vast majority of them were Fett clones, and Big V took good care of them. Why wouldn't they follow the man who made them the most legendary ground unit in the galaxy?

>>52949014
Because they were loyal to him.

>>52949014
He served along side them during the Wars. And was among the people who treated Clones like people and not biological droids the way the rest of the republic did.

>>52949071
I mean, they were friends with the Jedi too, but that didn't change much come Order 66.

>>52949112
And yet Palps never ordered them to shoot him. Palps is dead and it'll be years before the Palpatine clone business happens, which means the 501st is free to do whatever they want and cut out the TCW control chips with no repercussion.

>>52948853
I can buy batshit insane what-if plots but those faces look like a tracer worked off Howard Chaykin on a bad day. Thanks for the pointer!

>>52949014
He'd only accept 46 of them. The others he'd politely decline, telling them to live good lives.

>>52948641
>>52948939
>implying Vader would like the Rebels

He really, really wouldn't go with their ideals. Even before becoming a Sith, Anakin was a law and order fascist through and through. If anything he'd become a Dark Jedi rather than Sith and still try to get Luke to his side, after he cuts his losses and gets the hell out of the Endor system somehow.

>>52942945

Grey Paladins (nothing to do with grey force use, dont worry) literally do just that.
They dont like how 'dependent' the jedi grew on lightsabers, and so they use blasters.

The character whose name I cant remember you meet in some of the novels used to do just that - she'd use the force to predict incoming bolts and then literally shoot them out of the sky.

Shit was equal parts neato and insane.

Question for the WEGfags, which edition do you think is better?

Which has the better space/vehicle rules?

>>52949580
Anakin would feel compelled to reform as redemption, no matter how it is he is ordered or who he is ordered by.

If Vader saw the light and was redeemed, he would do anything to help his children.

>>52949923
I started off with 1st and then 2nd never agreed with me. This is strictly personal opinion but I would say that 2nd added complexity that Star Wars doesn't need - it's better to work within what is in 1st.
I was never a shelf-fag with STRPG, the two basic books plus Empire and Rebellion books and Companion served well - still serve the guys I play with well today. There's plenty of good ideas to rip off all over WEG's SW publication list, though.

>>52949998
He would do anything to help his children, but I think he would be done with taking orders.
Everyone hes taken orders from in the past has betrayed him and fucked with him. In redemption, he would cast off shackles

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>>52949878
>grey paladins
And this is why the EU had to be erased

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>>52944610
>>52946543
I still prefer following the EU interpretation that Light = Yin, Dark = Yang. Light represents peace, Dark represents passion. Too much Light and you end up a self-righteous asshole too full of themselves to accept criticism or realize when anything is wrong, like the Prequel Order.

Too much Dark and you end up a violent, bitter, and hateful killer, like Anakin.

Galactic history is full of those events when either the Jedi or Sith would try to slaughter each other, like some neverending holy war. The only way to achieve balance is to have both sides working in cooperation.

No, not Grey Jedi. Their AW interpretation is retarded.

I mean Jedi and Sith working together to achieve a common goal. Sadly, the Jedi tend to attract very full-of-themself people who believe their way is the only way, whether they admit it or not, and the Sith tend to attract very power-hungry people who view any restraint as chains that need broken, though they tend to admit this more readily.

The Force will never be balanced until the two main religions of it learn to co-exist.

>>52951696

If you go back to the oldest (chronologically) books in the old EU, there was some great shit about that.

The Jeedai Rangers on Tython 25,000 years before the films had to work at the balance - they used the ligth and the dark.

Being focused only on the light wasnt so bad (because they didnt have the same LMAO WHAT EVEN ARE EMOTIONS THO? from the Jedi), but being too focused on the easy draw of the dark could be bad since it was harder to give up.

But to be a good Jeedai ranger you had to be in touch with both.

>>52951696
>>52951880
That's why the Dark side is more alluring and hard to escape. Not because EVIL CORRUPTS U but because both sides represent natural emotions, Peace and Passion, and from our own human nature we know that it's much harder to give up your passions for peace than it is to do the opposite. That's why one needs enough Peace to refrain from wholly dedicating themselves to one purpose, and the Passion to ensure they still achieve their goals. Yin and Yang.

At least that's my interpretation of it. I'm sure some people are just going to tell me ITS A SPACE OPERA THO but whatevs.

>>52951696
The main thing I miss about the EU force is that it had INTERPRETATIONS. You know, like anything big, unknowable, and religious. In addition to the Light side and Dark side you have the Living Force, the Cosmic Force, the Physical Force, the Unifying Force, philosophies like the Potentum or the Aing Tii, you have people who go off the deep end like Vergere or Kreia who may have good points but are untrustworthy as sources of inspiration, you have small force traditions like the Baran Do sages. It made things feel nuanced, and as a GM as long as I made it clear that I wouldn't allow Jedi Academy "Throw around lightning but still be good" I could have several players all playing good force users but still have interpersonal conflict that doesn't revolve around falling to the dark side. I'm glad that none of that stuff is going to be prohibited from being used in my games any time soon, but I'm just sad that the NuCanon is so bleak and simplistic.

>>52952018

Well i mean, it is a space opera, but that doesnt stop that interpretation from being workable.

It's the same one I ascribe to, pretty much.

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>>52952064
Same guy here. Not to insult anyone, but that's what I meant to touch on at the end of >>52952018
Some people think Star Wars is a space opera and always will be due to its roots in space operas, and that everything around it should be as close to a space opera as possible. In their definitions, this means keeping everything very cut and dry, very simplistic, very basic, with no room for interpretation or ambiguity. Everything's basic and to the point, and I honestly hate that way of thinking.

Star Wars is so much more than when it first came out, it's become something bigger than I think even George could've imagined. As it has changed, so has its genre. It'd be unfair to call it a simplistic space opera anymore.There's simply too much content.

But the last few threads and threads before do show that some would disagree with me. Whether debating Grey Jedi, the Empire's morality, Jedi v Sith, good and evil, the intentions of motives of some characters, the workings of starships, the plausibility behind certain ship designs, political and philosophical thought within the universe, or social concepts of the cultures of Star Wars, there are just some people who truly do not want interpretations or discussions. They want it cut and bone-dry and simple, like many of the original space operas.

I don't bash them for that, but it's a way of going about Star Wars that I personally do not at all enthuse.

>>52952159
Fuck off Hux.

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>>52946442
Jesus those are some loaded ships.

Generally a bazillion upgrades isn't a good thing for ships in Armada. You want it to do one thing well, and avoid spending points on superfluous things.

You're going to want one, and possibly two gozantis as support for your ISD. Repair crews are good to run next to an ISD.

Vader is also kind meh. Especially in a two ship list. He goes much better on ships that have a lot of defense tokens they don't mind spending, like the Arquitens or Raider. VSDs want to keep all their tokens, so Vader is a bad fit for them.

>>52952834
Thanks I'm starting to get that!
And that's for that beautiful piece!

This is what I've worked out based on previous anon's suggestions.

I'm not really sure what to do with the squadrons though? Tips?
The Raider already fills a kind of Anti-Squadron role so maybe I should get something more Anti-Ship in squadron form?

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>>52953070
>Thanks for that*
Also forgot pic.

New video, my dudes. This one's really more for the newest x-wing guys. Sorry for the low output this week, real life's been catching up to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vam9s8_0Rik

>>52953294
You sound like my Grandpa

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>>52953723
I'm not sure what to make of that comment

>>52953766
>I'm not sure what to make

Grandchildren, obviously.

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>>52953856
Will do

>>52953294
Im already mad at 7 minutes in
You say block is always bad, but in your demo, you would get to shoot the other tie while blocking the other. The block was a much superior move. If you couldn't hit the other tie, he couldn't hit you.
The lack of moving the ships properly really invalidates a lot of your movement advice, as if you took your 3 turn x2 advice, means at least one tie shooting you every turn without return fire. It does make more sense with more ships on your side, but they will also have more ships which again makes it harder.
Your advice boils down to "If they want to joust, get on their side and avoid it" Which is solid advice, but 18 minutes is a long time to meander there.

For video advice, edit and plan your videos better. Whether you write out an actual script or not (I recommend it heavily. You'll find your videos become significantly better), have a better plan. You seem a little more ranty than you should be. You make several mistakes speaking, edit these out. It comes across as very amateur. I get you want more content, and faster is better for it, but looking at views/subs no one is really watching. Improve quality over quantity. As you get better, you'll get faster.
Try keeping videos to under 6 minutes. I watched your list building video as well, and thats a great example of a video that should be 3. Each list can be its own video, and it makes it easier on the viewers to find the exact content they want, while also making your videos more frequent.

Overall, I like what you're doing. More x-wing content is cool.

>>52954086
You're actually totally right about the blocking. I don't know how something simple like that slipped my mind.

As for the video advice: I agree with you on scripting and editing. These are things that I want to do more of for the sake of quality. On the other hand, Youtube growth patterns suggest that with the new algorithms, small channels outputting less than 3 videos a week are taking a big hit to channel growth. So, my option right now is to do 1 well scripted video every 1 or 2 weeks depending on my real life schedule or aim for 3 lower quality videos a week. The more well done videos seem like the obvious choice until you look at how Youtube prioritizes people who post more frequently. I may very well try the scripting and editing route (hell, it's what I have a degree in...), but any continuation of it would be dependent on the success of those particular videos.
I guess I'll also post this in terms of my longer-term plan. The current mark I'm looking at is 5000 subs (a long ways off, but not unattainable). At 5000 subs, assuming things are going well, the goal is to launch a patreon and begin focusing a lot more on quality. Of course this could be a pipe-dream and at the end of the day I'm making videos because it's fun for me.

>>52950307
>>52949923
Pretty much this. The more simple/streamlined the better.

Look up the rules for MiniSix. Use them, except substitute in the six Star Wars D6 attributes and rework the skills (use the 2nd Edition skills, but look into combining some and reorganizing them). Pretty much everything else should be 1st Edition.

What's a good name for a small band of mercenaries?

>>52954796
The Aurek Team.

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>>52954796
Men in Tights
Bad Company
Iron Star Inc.
Red Hammer Securities
Starfighters of Agamar
The Band of the Hawk
Colossus Wasp
Guardian Interstellar
Ronin, LLC
The Metal Gear name generator also works well as a PMC name generator.

>>52954796

Corusca Dogs.

I already used that one

>>52954796
The 1313th level crew

>>52952159
I would argue, personally, that the Force has no "sides;" it's up to the user to choose what to bring out of it. However, it's much more common for those using negative emotions to bring destruction on themselves and others than to not.

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>>52953070
>>52953092

Imperials have the best squads in the game if you build them right. Rhymer, Howlrunner, Dengar, Mauler, all are really damn good.

If you want to kill squadrons blindingly fast run Howlrunner and Dengar next to some interceptors. It boosts their counter attack to 4 and primary to 5. They're not horrible against ships either, I lost a CR90 mostly due to interceptors last week.

Rhymer next to either bombers, firesprays or Defenders is solid for anti-ship. He means you don't need to put squad commands to keep your bombers shooting.

TIE swarms themselves aren't that great because they're really vulnerable to flak. Wait for Sloane to drop, then they'll be decent.

Back before everyone almost always took 134 points of squads, I used to run two raiders with both titles as my answer to squads. The raider build you have there will absolutely give some answers to fighter balls.

At this point I'd say give the list a try or two and see what you think.

>>52940288
Rogzihe's family was shot dead clones of the republic senate for being involved in sith activities, including worshipping them when she was young. The troopers only spared her because she was only very young and sent her off to a foster family back on Caurasant. Since then she dispised the senate and when she was 16, she smuggled herself to the sith home world and declared that she wanted to be trained in the ways of the sith. Rogzihe is a ruthless warrior and very skilled with her lightsaber, she does not know many force powers like an exquisiter apart from force push and jumping. However, since the republic became the Imperial Empire. She broke away from the sith and became an independent warrior. Since then she has been searching for the legendary dark lightsaber crystal, wanting to become a force to be reckoned with. And become one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

>>52955920
This is so cliche, I love it. I feel like a lot of players avoid the cliches, which is honestly tragic. Embrace it

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Does Legends have a military equivalent of Fascist Italy? Who would be the spaghettimen of the stars?

>>52956187
The empire's incompetent little brother? I guess the Centrality (technically part of the Empire but mostly local controlled and woefully bad at it, but has vacation homes of the super SUPER rich.) Maybe Senex-Juvex (though they're more of a cross between medieval times and the antebellum south, or possibly the arab slave trade, though that's more a Zyggerian thing.)

But the Centrality was the first thing I thought of when you said it so that may say something. There's also Tapani but that doesn't fit perfectly either.

>>52940288
>Have your Rebel players ever had a peaceful interaction with Imperials?
Well, there was that one time we stole an Imperial uniform and a captain's code cylinder and infiltrated an Imperial base by pretending to be the most unpleasant shithead boss in the Empire and his long-suffering subordinates. No one fired a shot, even I'm pretty sure I heard no less than three separate mutters of "Fucking officers". Does that count?

>>52956187
>>52956314
The Hapes Consortium, Centrality, or maybe some mercenary outfits.

Not many military forces were active in the Empire era besides the Empire and Rebellion. Black Sun, but they'd be too big to constitute as Italy, and they weren't really a military force.

There's the Mary Zahn Consuetium, but I think I speak for all of us when I say fuck that for ever leaving the concept stage.

The Hutts maybe? If I had to choose, it'd be either the Hutts or Hapes. Influential like Italy, but woefully incompetent in terms of military without swarmy numbers.

>>52956314
Hapes? Except they're too competent. EU Mandalore maybe, what with the constant craving for a long gone empire, glorification of violence and militarism, except again competent.

>>52957527
The Black Sun and the Hutts are just straight up criminal organizations though, I don't think they correspond to states. Granted the Hutts rule Hutt space but that's more through extortion, having money, and being more akin to really shitty thuggish nobles than anything else.

>>52956187
>>52956314
>>52957527
>>52957769
Eh, Hapes could be late war Northern Italy.

Mandalore kinda works.

I still vote for the Centrality, or possibly the Tapani.

CSector is to competent, Senex Juvex draws from too many other cultures.

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>>52957811
>Mandalore
>Italian

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I have been trying to find a good landspeeder version of this ol Nazi officer wagon (Or the Red Faction Guerilla scout car clearly based on it) to use as a Staff car for some imperial officer getting driven around by a KX droid. Anyone got ideas?

>>52957889
I said only kinda and only the Nucanon Deathwatch.

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>>52957938
Search wookieepedia for the LAVr QH-7 Chariot.

>>52958145
I did think about the chariot... But eeennh, it doesn't have the same evil feel and it's too big for an oppressor-about-town feel.

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>>52958193

>>52958290
That is shocklingly the theme I want but not the vehicle shape. Ah well.

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What's a good light freighter in the FFG rpg game for a crew of four? We just finished making our characters and the GM said the we could choose our own ship (within reason of course). What would you guys suggest?

>>52958605
YT-1300 or YT-2400.

>>52958605
The HWK-1000 is pretty fast and has 100 encumbrance cap.

>>52958771
Does it look cool? That one is in the Fly Casual book yeah?

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>>52958848

>>52959031
Cool, is there a deck plan out there for it at all? Oh and are there miniatures too?

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>>52959052
>are there miniatures too

>>52959052
>>52959092
Meant to also say that the HWK-290 works just fine as a HWK-1000 mini. The 1000 is basically just a THICC 290.

>>52959109
>>52959092
Good to know, it would be cool to have a mini of the crew ship (and to totally not fly the ship around my desk like some fucking dork, would never do that of course). Is the mini inexpensive?

>>52959052
There's always deck plans somewhere on the internet.

>>52959147
MSRP is $14.95, according to FFG's online store page.

>>52959147
>>52959190
You can generally got it for a little cheaper online retailers of course, and occasionally ebay has the mini itself without the cards (or without some of the cards) for cheap.

>>52959760
Have any links to these cheaper retailers at all?

>>52959187
Hah, try finding one for the IPV-1.

>>52959803
Miniatures Market is my go to for a real online place, if you mean ebay you can just search for "x wing hwk-290"

Doing a quick search I can't find one on ebay for cheaper, the market really comes and goes sometimes.

>>52959803
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/ffgswx12.html
Not him, but here's one from a pretty reputable seller

All told, what's the worst single piece of Star Wars fanfiction you've ever seen/read?

>>52961665
The Force Awakens.

>>52961665
Post ROTJ EU.

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>>52961665
I had a player whose character read their "Luke Skywalker / Me" fanfiction to the group. It was just Twilight, with the names and details clumsily replaced. Sometimes, the player slipped up and replaced the wrong people.

And it was hilarious.

>>52961665
see, this would have been a good question two years ago

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>>52961873
That's a good idea, now if I can somehow entangle forbidden love between a PC Jedi and an NPC Sith into a campaign to make it horrendously complicated...
Course that would mean watching Twilight, which I have to admit I have seen the first 20minutes of and then passed asleep out on the couch. My wife has seen it and likes that stuff, but I'm kind of at an inroads that if I ask about it, it'll only encourage more of it in the house which I'm not really ready for in my life.

There was one about Yoda and someone stealing his biscuits I vaguely remember from some time ago but it was pretty fucking terrible.

>>52962003
>Course that would mean watching Twilight, which I have to admit I have seen the first 20minutes of and then passed asleep out on the couch. My wife has seen it and likes that stuff, but I'm kind of at an inroads that if I ask about it, it'll only encourage more of it in the house which I'm not really ready for in my life.
yuo see bruce, all you have to do is watch those films with yuor waifu in your lap and your finger on the trigger, and all is well

>>52962003
>which I have to admit I have seen the first 20minutes of and then passed asleep out on the couch. My wife has seen it and likes that stuff, but I'm kind of at an inroads that if I ask about it, it'll only encourage more of it in the house which I'm not really ready for in my life.
I actually watched the whole series stone drunk on a bet once, and it really was fucking hilarious in that context, though I suspect Mrs.Redback probably wouldn't go for that

Ah here we go-
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5973457/1/You-Don-t-Mess-With-Yoda-s-Cookies

>>52962031
Sparkly daytime vampires already triggered the shit out of me.
>>52962103
I'd probably rip a script from somewhere and just use that as the basis for a series of horrible side adventures that will take the cringe factor to eleventy. Course the side effect of that might be uncovering who's actually watched the movies and my own sanity, but like most roleplaying groups there's a fair share of degenerates which would have.

Did actually watch most of the Hunger Games. That was fucking traumatic enough.

>>52955849
Thanks! Will do!

>>52962103
It could be worse. It could be Gundam SEED Destiny's enemy romance.

>>52962154
eh, I figure if the solution isn't decapitation and burying of the head and body at two separate crossroads and/or digging a body up after seven years to be sure, whatever fictional bloodsucker isn't a proper strigoi/vampire and therefor aren't worth getting annoyed that they aren't 'proper' by whatever standard
and besides, twilight sparklefuckers remind me more of garbled ideas of fey folk than anything else

>>52940288
>give peace a chance
>sad_sundowner.jpg

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>>52962269
Twilit sparklefucks have more in common with the corporeal Mormon variety of angels than they do any sort of abomination against life. Didn't make a lick of sense combining that concept with ye old bloodsucking crimes against God, but that's teen fiction for you

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>>52962271
DEATH STAR
DEATH STAR OVER PARADISE

>>52962395
>Twilit sparklefucks have more in common with the corporeal Mormon variety of angels than they do any sort of abomination against life
well that isn't quite a surprise, seeing as the author was a Mormon.
Incidentally, the author also wrote a version of at least the first book where literally all she did was switch the genders of the main characters, which takes the whole story from merely trash to cheap harem anime, and I love it

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>>52962269
Actually it could have been kind of interesting if they'd used the wee folk as a basis, therein lies madness, tragedy and all manner of weird shit when humans and fairy's meet up.
Course, Hollywood isn't that adventurous and you kind of need to throw it elsewhere to get the right treatment

New player to x wing here...how important is Engine Upgrade and Veteran Instincts? I bought Heroes of the Resistance but are they so important that I should buy the old Falcon as well?

>>52963666
not as important as they used to be, satan

>>52946786
I did this for a Grievous-style character, this is what I ended up with:

12,500 credits, takes up 2 of your cybernetics cap. Can also be modified, like an attachment, to grant access to the quick draw talent.

>>52963759
So I can hold off for now on buying a second Falcon?

>>52963771

that per arm?

>>52961665
Bariss' Secrets

>>52963996

Hold up, is that a space-lingerie shop?

>>52964023
AhsokaXBarrissXAnakin futa/pregnancy shit.
You were kinda close

>>52963666
They're pretty good, especially on Rey, but not essential. The Store Championship participation card this year is Engine Upgrade, so you'll get plenty just for showing up.

>>52955027
Ah it is you: Mortar Flamingo you and your evil plot cant be allowed to succeed! The force is with us!

>>52955027

Just replace some fo the animal names with Star Wars ones and you're golden.

The Dynamite Gundarks, demo and intrustion specialists.

Also works pretty well for coming up with squadron names, actually, for if you dont want red/blue/yellow/taupe/etc

>>52954796
Condor Legion.

It's totally not four stormtrooper operators in black armor with white skulls and stuff stenciled on. And they're not flying ripped-off X-wings and a hot rod YT-2000 doing A-team shit when they're not operating Avengers from a Gozhanti.

>>52961873
Luuke, is that you?

>>52962425
HEADSHOT

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>>52962003
Nah, see, this was more like "My character has written terrible fanfiction. Want to hear it?" And then grabbing the book and opening it to a random page.

I'd work better with a proper bodice-ripping romance novel.

>>52964501
You're walking in the woods.
There's no one around,
And your phone is dead.
Out of the corner of your eye you spot him,
Joruus C'baoth

He's following you
About 30 feet back.
He gets down on all fours and breaks into a sprint.
He's gaining on you.
Joruus C'baoth

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>>52961665
Not bait, and I'll spoilerfy it to enforce that.

Rogue One
The Farce Engorgens
Suncrusher Arc
Palpatine Clones Arc
Mara Jade arcs
Solo Children arc
Crystal Star
Aftermath series
Anything by Stackpole
The Force Unleashed
Rogue Squadron video games
Tyber Zahn arc
Courtship of Leia
Jedi Prince aside from memes
Everything by Jason Fry that I've read
Tarkin
Catalyst
Newest Thrawn (oldthrawn was kino, let me emphasize that)

>>52965271
I just realized it was single worst piece. Oh well. All of those are the only fanfiction material out of Star Wars to ever truly frustrate or even piss me off because of the extreme lack of quality. RS was fun to play, don't get me wrong, but it was a clusterfuck of bullshit when it came to canon. An X-Wing is not going to blow up Star Destroyers and survive hundreds of TIE Fighters. Fuck off.

>>52965271
So, er, what do you like?

>>52965318
Judging by that list, Allston, Stover, Zahn and WEG.

>>52965271
I only disagree in that zahn's Mara arcs were decent, certainly up to star wars standards. Now, if the editorial decision for her and Luke not to get involved at the end of TTT wasn't made, we could have avoided vast amounts of retardation, but that's how things went

You know, I was just reading the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy, and MAN it was crap, aside from the Lando plotline, which was fucking premium, it honestly could and should have been it's own book

>>52965336
>Aliston

Some, definitely. His X-Wing novels almost feel like different books than Stackpole's, at least the two I read, and that's a very good thing.

>Stover

One of the best Star Wars authors there's ever been, and it's a damn shame there's not more books by him.

>Zahn

Thrawn is kino, though I personally think he's overrated overall. Thrawn Trilogy/Hand are his one-hit wonders of Star Wars. When he tries to do anything else he flounders around.

>WEG

Excellent material. I never found too many flaws with their fluff.

>>52965353
Fair enough. Mara is just a character that I never liked at all, even at her inception. She came off to me as irritating, loathsome, and having that sort of quintessential fanfictiony feel to her Oh look, it's the Emperor's badass assassin the most badassest of all she's so badass and cool she's so mysterious and tough watch out Luke she's a badass and tough and mysterious did I mention her mysterious past and I couldn't bring myself to enjoy anything related to her.

>>52965271
>>52965307
Important addenum I forgot

Fate of the Jedi

If I had to pick out of that last the absolute worst I've ever read, ever, of all, it would be what I just added. The fact I forgot to put it there is probably me trying really hard to forget it even existed, ever. It was also the book series that made me dislike Aliston despite his other achievements.

Abeloth exists because of you, Aaron. This is your fault and the future you chose.

>>52965229

I want this full song performed by a choir dressed in jedi robes, thanks.

>>52965439
I mean, as originally introduced, she wasn't bad
>oh shit, she's an imperial agent with some force talent who has a beef with Luke, only she ends up a good guy at the end
Maybe it's because I'd played a lot of WEG and therefore inquisitors and other force-sensitive imperial goons seemed fairly passé to me, but the way she was introduced, she didn't really feel un-star wars to me.

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>>52965562
Seems like that would have a pretty niche audience. I'd watch it though.

>>52965573
I'd tell you to shut your beta orbiter suck hole because she was a Mary Sue from the start and grown up men read books about libertarian operators who bench a ton and punch out liberal college professors with lovingly described hooknoses, but I won't.
I mea, it would be parody but people would take it seriously.

>>52940288
Why are the Star Wars rebels like a bunch of whiny teenagers? If there were no rebels, then the Empire would have no motive to keep building space stations capable of planetary annihilation. Literally 99% of the planets the Empire controls couldn't even tell if they were under the republic or the empire. Shitty moisture farmers would still be shitty moisture farmers and smuggelers will still be smuggelers.

>>52966562
The Death Star was already being designed long before the Empire was even made official.

>>52966582
I get the impression that Palpatine's purpose was destroying the Jedi, his hobby was taking over the galaxy, and his wank fodder was causing suffering and death.

>>52966608
There is the theory that he foresaw the yuuzon vong invasion and believed the galaxy needed to put up a unified fight

>>52966699
Which makes no sense, because just telling everyone about the Yuuzhan Vong threat would have worked just as well, if he was able to find any proof.

>>52966727

> Guys, there's totally an extragalactic invasion happening in 50 years.
> I saw it in a force vision.
> No, I'm not a Jedi-licensed force wielder, I got trained by this Sith lord.

Smooth plan

>>52966608
You've got it exactly

>>52966793
It's probably a moot point, since in Legends, he was pretty much always a sociopath even before becoming Sith.

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>>52966727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJRm0WssOE

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Just a reminder; ignore bait and be nice to each other.

>>52966608
>>52966819
Legends is very inconsistent in his portrayal.

It ranges from cartoonishly and unrealistically evil and sadistic to harsh but fair and well-intentioned.

Ultimately in my mind Palpatine is the best definition of a Sith lord. Passionate, powerful, and will let nothing or no one ultimately stand in his way. Some of his motives are selfish and evil, some of them are benevolent with more dark-shaded actions being out of pragmatism rather than malevolent will.

"The end justifies the means" pretty much sums up Palpatine's entire philosophy, for better and for worse at the same time.

>>52966699
>>52966727
IIRC in personal memoirs he's mentioned to have written he did speculate that he sensed something powerful was going to attack the galaxy and that it had to be unified to stop it. Whether he's lying or not he also spoke of believing in earnest that the Republic was too weak to survive and that it needed usurped, and that one day people would thank him for what he did.

Of course, he could just be an egomaniacal sadist, but it's all up to fan interpretation. The weird thing is he isn't a bad guy in the original trilogy. Other than shooting lightning and asking Luke to kill his dad, Palps just kinda sits on his throne and chills out, and isn't particularly nasty or rude to anyone at all.

>>52967479
>harsh but fair and well-intentioned.
Forgive me, but where the hell was this?

>Other than shooting lightning and asking Luke to kill his dad, Palps just kinda sits on his throne and chills out, and isn't particularly nasty or rude to anyone at all.
So, apart from trying to turn someone to the dark side and going into torturing him to death when that failed...

>>52967517
>Forgive me, but where the hell was this?

My interpretation based off various EU publications about him.

>trying to turn someone to the dark side
>torturing him to death

Well, he's a Sith, and Luke is not only a Jedi, but also a member of an enemy faction that is at war with Palpatine's entire government. That's not really an act of sadistic cruelty, but an act of an enemy who is engaged in two wars with another, one of which has been waging for thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years.

>>52967587
>My interpretation based off various EU publications about him.
Such as?

>Well, he's a Sith, and Luke is not only a Jedi, but also a member of an enemy faction that is at war with Palpatine's entire government. That's not really an act of sadistic cruelty, but an act of an enemy who is engaged in two wars with another, one of which has been waging for thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands of years.
Uh, I'm pretty sure you're still not allowed to torture enemy combatants in a war, because, well, it's kind of a bad thing to do.

Also, the Sith are the ones who keep starting the war over and over.

>>52967587
>That's not really an act of sadistic cruelty
>Torturing a man to death instead of grabbing the dropped lightsaber and ending it quickly
>Or throwing him down the shaft
>Cracks a smile as he electrocutes Luke
No, that's pretty fucking sadistic and cruel.

>>52967479
Sheevy P was always at his best when he was batshit insane and absurdly evil and loving every motherfucking second of it

>>52967653
>>52967680
>in an endless religious war of mutual genocide and slaughtery for most of recorded history
>leader of the sith invites de facto leader of the jedi to parley in his space base
>treats him cordially and is overall polite with him
>tries to get him to join the sith
>luke attacks him forcing bodyguard to intervene
>luke beats bodyguard and almost kills him
>"alright bodyguard's weak luke is strong now's my chance join me"
>luke refuses
>after all that luke refuses
>stuck with weakened half-dead bodyguard on life support
>plan to convert him failed
>battle now going badly because you ordered your men to not fight so you could make bargains with jedi dude
>and this smug shit defies you in your own throne room
>this smug shit who is at war with not only your government but your very religion

He didn't spend days torturing him and making him suffer, he shocked him with non-lethal amounts of lightning for a few minutes before beginning to amp up to lethal to finish it.

And Palpatine was pissed. Who wouldn't be pissed?

>>52967734
Palpatine is best when viewed as the morally grey character he is, though you calling him Sheev makes me think you adhere to his Nu representation, which is fine, but it's not the one I adhere to.

>>52967765
So... choosing not to kill someone is now worth electric death? What?

>>52967781
Pal, the only thing grey here is your imperial-issue wank sock, though it's turning white and green on account of you haven't washed it in months a

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>>52940288

For the first session of my Age of Rebellion game, I want to place the PCs in a North by Northwest-esque "mistaken for a spy" situation. Basically, one or more of the PCs will be misidentified by as a Rebel agent by another Rebel agent. The agent will try to hand over sensitive information to the party, only to be assassinated by the Empire.

How would I run this without it feeling cheap or contrived?

>>52967765
>It was only a little bit of waterboarding you big pussy, I'm totally not evil

>>52967875
>>52967909
>implying the jedi would've been any better in the same scenario reversed
>implying lightning is evil but a saber through the gut resulting in an arduous and painful death would be benevolent
>implying both sides aren't shit for continuing a petty murderspree for all of time because they have religious disagreements

>>52967894
You're looking at it the wrong way in my opinion. It's already a bit contrived, the only thing to do is go full tilt. Have an Imperial NPC believe they're a Rebel spy, only to reveal he's also a Rebel spy. Have a Rebel spy believe they're an Imperial spy. Introduce a Steven Heck-esque character, basically a guy who no one believes is a spy but he ardently insists he is.

You've got to amp things up to ridiculous levels.

>>52967948
>but but the other guys woulda done the evil thing too, so it's okay
>it's not evil if the other people were gonna do the unnecessary torturing

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>>52967894
>How would I run this without it feeling cheap or contrived?

First, talk to your players about the tone and the ideas of the game. Gritty? Comic? Full Spare Opera? Empire Didn't Do Nothing Wrong?

Then, write an opening crawl. http://brorlandi.github.io/StarWarsIntroCreator/, but don't play it yet.

Have the PCs build their characters collaboratively.

Play the crawl, and then play an opening track. If you can't think of one, use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drLmXeoJqI or https://youtu.be/FIFfKQDkMSU?list=RDeDpntkPyzzw

Or something equally good. And then cut right to the action. A botched handoff. A chase. A chance meeting. A shootout. The pace should be frantic. They'll be time for slow brooding later. Have the players make snap choices that will, perhaps, define their characters.

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>>52967948
>Stabbing a guy in the gut
>Equivalent to Force lightning
That's like saying shooting a man is equivalent to repeatedly dunking him into a pool full of irukandji. One kills quickly, the other is prolonged agony.

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>>52967110
As someone who loved and was fascinated by the OT/PT, it's sad just how accurate this is when it comes to TFA/RO. You'll be missed, Star Wars. You'll be missed.

At least they can never take away the past and the good times.

>>52968260
The commentary track is bretty good with only a handful of faux pas

Quick question. Big fan of WEG D6 and disliked all of WotC versions. How is Edge of Empire?

>>52968531
The best system to date.

>>52968531
D6 is still the best.

>>52968531
It's good but I prefer D6. More material available and less handwaving.
And I really don't like FFG's business model for their star wars lines.

>>52965271
>Not bait
>Posts non-fanfics

You're a right fucker, you know that?

>>52968779
>>52968896
Is D6 really superior to FFG?

Asking because I feel like getting into D6, but I really really like FFG.

>>52967479
>>52967587
>>52967765
>>52967948
>>52967781
Fuck off Hux

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>>52969030
>lel evry1 is da hux xd

Get that reddit shit outta here.

>>52969162
>b-b-but muh Empra wus getin' ready for da Vong

Dank posting Hux.

>>52968985
They got really different feels. I'm a huge D6 fag and doesn't like classes, so I know where I stand, but EotE is a more modern system, and is supported.
The best is probably for you to see for yourself; here are the pdfs:
http://d6holocron.com

And no matter your opinion on the setting, check the Darkstryder campaign; it's one of the best piece of setting I've seen in a rpg, and is a must have if you want to run a game in a corvette.

Unrelated: Does anybody have links to tDaniel Wallace's secrets of the galaxy guidebooks (jedi path, book of sith, bounty hunter code, imperial handbook) ? Especially the last one.

>>52969244
The Imperial Sourcebook of D6 is an amazing resource for any campaign in any system set in the Galactic Civil War, even Imperial players if you get over its very Empire = Villain mindset.

>>52969214
Fucking Vong man

what the fuck

>>52969275
WEG doesn't get enough credit for all the influence it had on the Star Wars setting as a whole.

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I've finished painting the units for Austria, Turkey, Russia, France, and Germany; England and Italy are drying right now outside. I could have done a better job had I taken more time but all I'm going for is coloring the pieces so it's obvious who owns what piece, so I'll take it

Why can't I find any images of the Alidade-class long-range survey ship online? It's in the savage spirits book. Man it looks hella nice. Anyone got any pictures?

>>52967991
Most of mine are a mix of Gritty and Empire dindu nuffin.

>>52969214
Even without the Vong, the Empire stopped civil wars on a galactic-scale and brought order. Shame it couldn't stop the one against it though.

>>52970108
That's more due to plot armor than anything else.

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>>52969971
>Alidade-class long-range survey ship
I think it's a made for FnD vessel. FFG makes some pretty cool ships, pic related.

>>52970678

If I ever do trick my PCs onto bespin, I'm totally dangling that ship as a potential reward.

>>52970678
Damn. Wish there was more art. It looks interesting. That is also a very very pretty shit. Damn.

>>52971247
>>52970678
Pretty ship, too.

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>>52968531
D6 is boring, imbalanced and busted. Stick with Fantasty Flight Games if you want exciting narrative gameplay good internal balance and absolute amazing artwork. Fantasy Fight Games really knows how to blend legends and canon together in order to make a fully fleshed out setting. Try it out and you won't be disappointed!

>>52962425
EMERALD RAYS OF THE GLORIOUS LASER
LANCING OUT, SUCH A VERDANT LIGHT
NOW THE RABBLE SLOWLY RETREAT
TO THE SHADOWS OUT OF SIGHT
SHOCKWAVES RING OUT ACROSS THE MOUNTAINS
GIVING FLIGHT TO THE BIRDS OF PEACE
IN THE DISTANCE CONTINENTS ROAR TO TRANSFORM EDEN
INTO ASH AND FLAMES

>>52971379
I wouldn't say that D6 is boring. It was a great system for its time, and it still is. It blew D20/Saga out of the water, and its sourcebooks are great material to retool into your current games.

That being said, it's not that D6 is inferior, it's just that FFG does Star Wars better.

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God I hated TFA. I'm done paying hollywood to force political opinions down my throat.

Women are not strong
Women are not heroes
Women are not determined or inspiring

They are verifiably, factually and demonstrably less intelligent, less inspired, less ingenious and less capable than men in almost every field. I am not now nor will I ever swallow the feminist pill of equality because the two genders very simply are not equal.

That is why I didn't like it. Because Rey was the protagonist. I don't want that, I don't need that and I have had enough of Star Wars in my life if that's the way the franchise is going.

>>52971629
It's not even that.
They could've made her path an adventure full of challenge. A hardship after hardship she'd endure, barely but making it, learning more and more throughout the movie, meeting great people that act as teachers to her.
But nah, she knows ships better than a 60-year-old smuggler, force better than a Skywalker and sword fighting better than a Jedi academy student who became a Sith of sorts.

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>>52971668
>replying to a copypasta

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>>52971676
Talking to copypasta is a great tradition and you know it.

>>52971461
Now I kinda want to see Armstrong and Desperado turned into antagonists for a Star Wars game

>Used to play Grav Ball you know
>At some cushy Imperial College-
>-Try Nar Shadaa. Coulda gone pro if I hadn't joined the Navy.
>I'm not one of those Core World pansies. I could break Vader in two with my bear hands.

>>52971676
>>52971693
Is it really Copypasta if you wholeheartedly believe what you post?

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>>52971784

>>52971629
>>52971676
>>52971693
>>52971802
Creepypasta or not, it's mostly right. Women can be strong, sure, but TFA and the advent of feminist heroes is idiotic.

>>52971802
Well, you're still getting your extremely valuable and needed opinion out across /tg/'s cheeros-covered face.
So I guess it counts as talking to copypasta only if you know it is copypasta.

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>>52951301
That kind of thing was not even in the balpark of why the EU was erased.

>>52971849
>Creepypasta
newfaggot get out

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>>52971867
>Hating Runt
You leave Runt out of this, motherfucker.

>>52971867
You leave Runt alone.
He's a good horseman

>>52971849
>>stories should only be for me and about people like me
>>anything else is bad storytelling

alright bucko

>>52971849
>WAAH, there's no hero for me to self-identify with on a skin-deep level so it's bad
You sound like tumblr.

>>52971970

It's shit bait anon, just ignore it.

>>52971970
>>52972029
>wahh i want more feminism in the media!!!

>>52972029
>>52972039
So you dumbass cuckolds think that Rey is a good protagonist?

Just ignore it and talk about actual star wars, eventually he'll leave and whine about women on r9k.

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Am I weird for only just realizing how much good ship art FFG does?

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>>52972119

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>>52972119
Old ass piece of shit Falcon is able to take on FO super advanced TIE fighters

>>52971629
I agree. Every movie now has to be about highjacking male virtues like bravery strength and chivalry and attributing them to female leads to satisfy womens inferiority complexes about not being men. I have never looked up to a woman as an heroic figure in real life and cannot enjoy a film that makes pandering to women it's main objective. Not believable

>>52970108
A civil war Sheev orchestrated!

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A communications disruption can mean only one thing

>>52972230
he wasnt talking about the clone wars

>>52972266
pretty much, my dude.
Invaded every weekend like clockwork.

>>52966562
The Emperor had to defeat the Seperatists to consolidate his power after he destroyed the Jedi. ...but what if he always intended for his heavy handed fascist government to cause a Rebelion, after all you don't get to have a murder boner for destroying entire planets with your Death Star if your firm but fair dictatorship brings actual peace.

>>52970678
The perspective is awful, kills my boner dead. Also there's too much glowy stuff, Star Wars tech should look like mechanical engines unless we're talking ancient alien stuff.

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>>52972287
But the real question is, who is the culprit?

Who is behind these posts and what drives their lust for (You)'s?

>>52972361
A wizard with nothing to do on a Saturday night, obviously. If he had friends, he could play some sweet tabletop games instead of shitposting.

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>>52972104
It gets pretty hit-or-miss sometimes.

>>52971629
Oh boy, it's MRA circlejerk time, see you all next thread.

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>>52972459
Meh, they're rebels. The mechanic probably lost a part or something and had to make due by mounting that engine where he did.

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>>52971890
>>52971904
Ok, how about this guy.

>>52972461
We have to hold on to hope that someday they'll realize that MRA's and SJW's are the same thing.
Gotta keep that dream alive.

>>52972461
Don't be put off by Hux, you're only playing into his hands and donating (You)'s.

>>52972104
They made the K-wing not look like shit.
They are doing the lords work.

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>>52972524
Looks totally fine to me. LucasArts has a history of working with lagomorphs anyway.

>>52972560
Don't make fun of best girl

>>52972064
Nobody actually thinks that, anon. Not in real life. Only on the internet .

>>52943021
The origanal BSG's special effects team had worked for ILM on Star Wars. Those ships absolutely have the same design asthetic.

>>52972316
He knew not killing all the Jedi would, "mean civil war without end." He didnt want that.

Anyone ever found a group to play Edge of the Empire with on Roll d20? What are your experiences with Star Wars players on that network?

>>52972713
You mean Roll20?

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>>52969971
Looks like Ben Zweifel (but not 100% sure), he's done a lot of FFG's more memorable ship art

The Alidade-class is actually one of my favourites in that book, its like this old comfy shitbox Firefly or something, or being an old Sienar ship, it'd like owning an old Jaguar car and watching it break down at the first sign of rain, humidity change, not hitting it in the right place..

>>52972666
I don't know Daisy Ridley's acting made up for a lot of dificiancies in the character writing. It's really hard to have a film charictor truely come off as a Marry Sue unless the acting is also totaly flat (See Twilight and Kristen Stewart)

>>52972713
It's fine. Some players go a little goofy, but it's a setting for 12 year olds so you should expect that.
Roll20 handles the game well, but you need access to the APIs for the dice roller

>>52972762
This is pretty accurate. Rey was hardly more of a Mary Sue than Luke was in ANH, the main difference is that Luke wasn't the tentpole hero for most of the movie, whereas all eyes are on Rey throughout TFA.

>>52972689
Or he said he didn't want that because he wanted all the Jedi dead, and Anakin might not have been on board for "Murder every last youngling, I hate the Jedi with my very soul"

>>52972461
This place has become Tumblr incarnate.

>if you like the empire LOL HUX XD
>if you dislike rey/feminism LOL MRA XD

Fucking hell man. I'd take literal Nazis over these progressive libshits. At least they aren't as obnoxious.

>>52972827
Why to confirm every liberals Conservitives=Nazis bias.

>>52972827
find another community if you don't like this one.

>>52972827
then head over to /pol/ and stop whining already

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>>52972762
>>52972793
>Opening your mouth and eyes widely is now considered acting

>>52969971
>>52972742

Ben is credited for both cover and interior art on Savage Species.

It's a nice looking ship, solid stats, and good fluff. my one quibble is the very large cargo hold. No where does it mention collecting massive samples, or carrying small-scale survey craft. Seems to me like they should trade some of the cargo capacity for more passenger berths, given how much they boast about the the comfort of the ride, and how much people want to rent a room.

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>edgespam shitposter in a thread for a series where the good guys are good, the bad guys are bad, and being generally nasty towards your fellow sentients makes you a bad guy
What sort of person gets this desperate for free replies?

>>52972524
Bucky O'Hare?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD3lUzIB9JQ

>>52972827

Except you dont 'like the empire' and dont 'dislike rey and feminism'.

You think the murder of billions is justifiable because lol, and you hate women, not feminism.
It's pretty clear from the things you say.

Those things are very different to what you claim they are.

Go back to r9k and please whine about being a wizard there.

>>52972827
This place has been an echo chamber for some time. I take comfort in the fact that they're forever alone tumblrinas.

>>52972361
What's interesting is that /btg/ got hit with shitposting at a very close time to this thread
I wonder of they're related

>>52972932
A lonely old wizard.
Ben Kenobi

>>52972979
>one old faggot terrorizes all of /tg/ at the same time every day
I could believe that there's only one shitter on this board if it weren't for /40kg/

>>52972932
Idk but the youtube shitposter/empire did nothing wrong guy literally doesn't respond to serious attempts throughout the last 5 threads to derail their nonsense so I'm pretty sure its just a troll and not representative of genuine belief.

None-the less, the best way to deal with this shit is to drown it in actual content.

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>>52972981
That reminds me, I need to find that Obi-Wan Ben Larry Kenobi reaction image and give it an actual filename

>>52972979
>>52973005
>Anybody or anything that goes against your limited worldview is now a shitpost or a shitposter
Really gets the noggin joggin

>>52973005
I mean, like /btg/and /swg/ have a lot of poster overlap, shitposter overlap wouldn't be unlikely

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>>52973027
>I don't know how to recognize shitposting.
Lurk more before postan

>>52973027
It's pretty obvious that its a singular argument being presented, every single thread, over and over again, without even editing, in both this and the swco thread.

Also, its very obvious that the person perpetuating this cycle shies away from actually arguing for their view against anyone who seriously challenges them.

The vast majority of posters are merely responding with disgust and chaffing angrily about this which makes them amenable to the lolsmuganimegirl troll of course but I don't expect the vast majority of posters to do a meta-analysis of general thread conditions when that takes work.

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>>52973027
My beef with your posts is the fact that most of the arguments you people make are the same arguments over and over, thread after thread, and those very arguments have already been used repeatedly in past threads.

>>52973018
It's been the EXACT SAME words in his posts for three weeks now, and >>52967765 is some of the most blatant bait wording I've seen in my life. We're getting farmed for (You)s and it's working all too easily. The worst is knowing that this is going to be a regular occurrence until a year after IX releases at the very earliest.

I personally wish I had more passion for discussion X-Wing and/or Armada, but I'm priced out of both games at the moment and my X-Wing collection is mostly outdated Rebel ships (RIP As and Bs).

>>52973095
>have already been used repeatedly in really old threads from years ago
That's what I meant to say.

>>52973108
I'd talk about X-wing all day any day, but it only really comes up when there's a new guy actively posting about it and sometimes when I get a decent youtube vid of it uploaded.

>>52973108
I whole heartedly agree there, I'm writing an EotE campaign at the moment to run later on and its not hard to come up with star wars stuff in a new and refreshing light, its not like star trek that way.

However, I too, find myself all sorts of run aground on hype for buying more x wing and armada is a non-starter in my local area although I did order some of those Mel's Miniatures units for armada and I plan to paint them and show them off later.

>>52973108

Man we need a fucking tabletop simulator game group so people can actually get games of Armada and X-Wing without the outlay of money and without the having to try and arrange it irl.

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>>52972919
They also left off the port-starboard shields on a sil-5 ship, probably a fuck up
Still, for 150k you get a lot of ship and not too much which wouldn't be out of place for a starting group. The Arc-40b's are pretty cool in that book, though you get the space madness real bad being stuck in one for potentially 2 months with 3 other people

>>52972872
Spotted the Kristen Stewart fan, squinting and wearing all the eyeshadow is not acting.

>>52973308
This. I have TTS and I literally only use it for the sake of X-wing videos and not actual games. We need an /swg/ discord or something.

>>52972932
>a series where good guys are good, bad guys are bad

Your bait is as terrible as the opposing side.

>>52972971
Let's not adhom them too much, anon. Every insult only gives them more ammunition for their feeble arguments. We treat them with civility and we deplete half of their arsenal.

>>52972956
1. I'm not the same guy,
2. I don't hate women.
3. The only problem with Alderaan was that the Empire didn't destroy more planets controlled by the Rebellion. You side with the enemy, you become the enemy.

>>52973018
I've seen Empireposters respond to arguments with detailed analytics that explain their viewpoint, and they often don't try to force it.

What happens is some retard comes in whining and moaning about fascism and getting personally offended over the destruction of a fictional planet while whining and moaning even more incoherently.

>>52973108
>implying only one person ever posts
>blatant bait because he doesn't think palpatine is pure evil

>>52973027
This post is on fucking point with all of you. Yeah, Empirefags do bait, but holy fuck, to both sides, the narrow-minded worldview is insane. Anyone you don't agree with is a shitposter. This is what /tg/ has come to. I remember fondly the old days of long debates and arguments with fellow spergs over lore. Now if you say one wrong thing you're triple-accused of:
>being a shitposter
>being a samefag, the only samefag
>baiting and trolling for (You)s

Fucking shit on a fucking shit shingle, this gets tiresome to read. I want the spergs back who got autistically into discussing lore, not the spergs who autistically get mad over opposing opinions.

>>52973108
How broke are we talking anon? I might be able to help you build up your collection- I ended up buying some lots off of ebay yet I don't want the ships in them.

where are you located?

>>52973438
>The only problem with Alderaan was that the Empire didn't destroy more planets controlled by the Rebellion. You side with the enemy, you become the enemy.
Under that logic /swg/ would be justified in hunting you doewn and murdering you for shitposting on a Hungarian Tapestry board.

>>52973438
GENOCIDE BALL!

>>52973505
You've just aided and abetted him by feeding him.

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>>52973475
A L A S K A
I appreciate the thought, but I've got the ships I really wanted already. I also need to work through two other games worth of modeling and paitning backlog before I can really justify trying to fit more toys into my apartment.

>>52973370

https://what do you think goes here.gg/3yTpw

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Had anyone had a character with a pet? Or perhaps a droid that they didn't treat like an appliance?

>>52973693
>>52973693
>>52973693
Non-shit thread incoming

>>52971379
I hear Fantasy Flight a Games has an eight pack.