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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Have any of your characters changed their skin tone during a campaign? Maybe they got a tan?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Current Playtests: https://pastebin.com/quSzkadj

Old Thread: >>52806411
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>>52810611
My white male human fighter character was turned into a sassy black woman by the GM. It's his fetish.
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>>52810611

I'm not usually vocal about the anime is shit thing, but this is super shit.

At least TRY to make it related to pathfinder, op, fuck.
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>>52810611
You could have at least tried.
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Where the fuck are my logs, Vult?!
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>>52810664
Hello, friend! I noticed that you called an image of the new Touhou game - Hidden Star in Four Seasons - an anime thing! Touhou is actually a danmaku (bullet hell) game, totally unrelated from anime, and hand animated by legendary beer connoisseur Zun.

The more you know!
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>>52810704
Ask your mother.
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>>52810717

> an anime image isn't anime

Wrong. Also, it's still shit.
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>>52810704
https://pastebin.com/zUGVAmbf
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>>52810733
Never gets old, I swear.
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>>52810733
>>52810757
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>>52810611

Yep.

While she was mortal, one of my PCs had a ton of polymorph-based disguises for every situation.

After becoming an angel, her skin permanently shifted to a bleached alabaster, and the disguises stopped working, so she mostly used illusions.
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>writing app for Overlewd
>make a rightfully angry healsnek
>her goal is to escape and kill anyone who tries to stop her
>no real villain potential without riding on someone elses coattails
H E L P
E
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What are some amazing treasures you or your party have acquired over the years, /pfg/? Any interesting stories behind them?
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>Overlewds hasn't even been up a week
>already 30+ apps
This. Cannot. Continue.
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>>52810800
Go the Tetsuo Route. Make her bitter about being small and weak and having to rely on others. So when she actually does get power, she starts to go off the deep end.
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>>52810814
What do you think the next /pfg/ lewd game will be like?
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>>52810814
I guess you'll just have to make up your own game then.
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>>52810824

I'm waiting for the next 'regular' game.

Some lewd is fine, but I prefer it as a spice, not a main course.
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>TFW you realize that Valeriya actually is a virgin, but the Vilderavn isn't
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>>52810800
Waiting on the avowed changes myself.
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>>52810800
Don't worry Vult! I know you can do it! You'll crack the case and win the lawsuit!
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>>52810824
A Fluffy Tale 3
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>>52810824
>takes two months to pick people
>dm doesn't bother showing
>more than half the applications were jokes anyway
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>>52810893
How would that even work, anon?
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>>52811199
Why wouldn't it work? It's not like they're the same person, right?
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>>52810611

You have brought shame to this board.

Anyone have good stats for generic guns like pistols, smgs, and the like? I need it for a setting I'm putting together.
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>>52811199
Like >>52807830 said, there's a psyche split between Valeriya and the Vilderavn. The Vilderavn part of her was responsible for the rebellious streak and thus any sexual relationships she had before the split.
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>>52811461
Wait for Starfinder to release
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>>52811564
y'know, I always did find futa on /ss/ to be a fun genre
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>PLD Update:
The bell has tolled for another.
After a close but ultimately lost fight, a manticore has escaped carrying one of the party members.
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>>52807905
Wait, I'm pretty sure Emilia is a virgin just going off this quote in the app "Emilia is also a very inexperienced girl, even when it comes to relationships and sex due to her sheltered past, but her strong curiosity eggs her on to try out and experience new things. She very much has a lot to learn about the ways of a succubus."
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>>52811587

It's great, as long as it's tender loving.
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>>52811655
But manticores don't even have grab or Improved Grapple.
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>>52811655
Who was it?
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>>52811722
Unconscious sacks of meat are easy to carry, especially when they're the daintiest sack of meat available.
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>>52811468

I'm pretty sure Valeriya post-Vilderavn was still having sex. Maybe not as wild and kinky, but still sex.
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>>52811738

Sigmund.
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>>52811768
RIP papa-san.
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>>52811564
I'm starting to regret making this image.
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>>52811771

He lies, it was actually Cashmere.
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>>52811753
But manticores deal tons of lethal damage and have no way of healing people they knock out.

Anyone they carry is just going to bleed out.
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>>52811771
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>>52811786
>>52811768
They're both liars. It was actually ____Vult
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>>52811789
Nightwalkers are immune to bleeding out. I think it was also another beast refluffed as a manticore

>>52811738
>>52811768
>>52811771

Not actually Sigmund.
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>>52811789
Dude, it's a monsterfucking setting. Do you think that monsters wouldn't be changed? Are you some scrub that just takes monsters wholesale from the bestiary without modifying them?
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Everyone's lying.

PLD was cancelled today cause Vult's having his gender reassignment surgery tomorrow.
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>>52811789
They have Wolverine powers, remember? The template designed to make sure they always stabilize and seldom die, so they can get raped with ease.
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>>52811779

Giving Rory attention is like feeding the plant from the little shop of horrors.
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>>52811813
"after this nosejob, no one will think to call you bitch"
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>>52811809
I would have preferred it be Sigmund, honestly...

Still, waiting for logs like whoa.
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>>52811813
Vulta is cute! CUTE!
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>>52811846
More like "giving anything related to Rory attention will trigger false-flaggers galore"
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>>52811878
>>52811846
Both are true.
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CASHMERE confirmed taken by the Manticore for it's own hideous amusement!
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>>52811958
Is she kill?
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>>52811969

Worse.
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>>52811984
What's worse then having to put the character sheet into the graveyard and make a whole new one?
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>>52811995
Having to think up 22 manticore kid names to put on your sheet.
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>>52811995

The manticore isn't carrying her off to be eaten.
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>>52811894
>Rory is a dick
>Rory is a sweetheart
>Rory is a piece of shit
>Rory is a dork
>Rory wears a collar
>Rory is a stud
>Rory is a furry
>Rory isn't a furry
>Rory just wants to be left alone
>Rory craves attention
>Rory is Canadian
>Rory is a redneck
>Rory self-shills
>Rory doesn't self-shill

Who the fuck is this man and why is the information on him so inconsistent. WHO IS HE
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>>52812019

t.Rory
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Aside from two magic magic weapons and the rest of the big six, what sort of magic items will be particularly useful or important to your typical TWFing ranger?
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>>52812027
Not him. What is /pfg/'s obsession with this man. It's befuddling
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>>52811984
>>52811969
>>52811958
KITTENS!
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>>52812019
Rory is everyone, and Rory is no one. I'm Rory. You're Rory. That girl you see walking to the bus stop every morning at 7 is Rory. The guy who takes your order at McDonalds is Rory. Moot is Rory. God is Rory. Rory is the Devil.
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>>52812047
That's just because we're looking forward to his next stupidly enormous blunder.
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>>52812048

Well, kittens are nice.
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>>52812019
1/3/5/7/10/13 are correct.
The others are probably by rory.
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>>52812078
t. Rory false-flag
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rory isnt even a interesting player in any sort of way

please stop forcing him
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>>52812140
t. Rory
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What's the strongest gimmick/meme build you can come up with?
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>>52812151
2hu.
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>>52812145

t. Rory
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>>52811655
>tfw Gloriana will Literally Never get raped

Is that what happens when you put it in the backstory?
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/pfg/ is there any way I could pitch a 'lower power' game without being decried as a shitter?

I have a thing that I really want to run but rampant magic would ruin it.
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>>52812168

Bonbon's been defiled, and now Cashmere.

Place your bets, people! Who's next? Who will stand the test of time?
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>>52812163
t. RORY
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>>52812192

I think there are a fair number of people who would be interested, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I mean you won't get 50 apps like Overlewd will, but do you want 50 anyway?
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>>52812192
There was an E8 game that worked out, wasn't there?
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>>52812221

It's power level probably makes PC's equivalent to level 12's though.
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>>52812192
Define lower power. What char gen rules.
Before banning classes whole sale, consider just banning certain spell effects.
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>>52812197
I always count on gold. Lysander is next!
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>>52812197
Lysander or Sigmund.

Gloriana will somehow survive the entire game not being monstered once.
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>>52812230

I don't have anything concrete. Just lower magic in general.

People always complain about casters, but then balk at the notion of constraining them. I don't have a good sense of the happy medium between the two.
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>>52812255

The people complaining about casters are just repeating a now stale meme. If you're playing with the PF Bestiary, Initiators with feat tax rules, which PFG always uses, are way more disruptive to game balance.
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Direct from the GMs mouth. He wants silly apps, not serious ones. If you made a serious app you basically just throw away your chances at getting picked.
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>>52812252

>Implying Sigmund won't get defiled by a PC first
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>>52812192
What are you trying to run?
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>>52812277

> Initiators

I feel stupid, but what are those?
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>>52812284
>implying Cashmere won't go full-BDSM on his ass
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>>52812305

N-No.
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>>52812159

Why is it even when I don't think 2hu is wrong some part of me recoils from his builds?
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>>52812290

PoW classes
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>>52811655

GIVE ME A FULL REPORT

I NEED IT ALL
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>>52812281
Wrong, boyo.

Being funny, and hoping that it's a genuine effort *while* being funny, don't mean it's an automatic acceptance.
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>>52811564
What is the fastest way to get Reduce Person?
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>>52812285

Just something fairly grounded. I'm not huge on the gestalt 25 point thing, but I do like running immersive narratives with simple rules and characters. 15 point single class would be a lot easier for me to work with as a GM, working towards something big in the long run, but humble at first.
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>>52812379
Be a level 1 in any class that gets it as a 1st-level class.

why you asking, anon?
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>>52812341
Where'd you leave off?
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>>52812390

I get low power but low PB like that really punishes non casters, if you insist on that I'd consider letting martials have more points.
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>>52812415
Just seems like a fun thing to have around.

>Shrink Bandits and other criminals to trade in for bounties
>Reduce monsters to tiny pets and sell them for dosh
>Mess around in your now mansion sized carriage as a tiny

All kinds of other similar ideas.
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>>52812430

Just.. give martials more stat points?
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>>52812390
PLD got a lot of apps for its setting and the possibility of lewds even though it was 1pp+Avowed only, and banned fullcasters.

It's workable.
Please don't go 15pb, though.
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>>52812463

Yes, again, I understand low power, but martials in 1PP are low powered concepts. Wizards are partially so strong because even on 15 PB, that's 18 int and 14 con, they can even drop cha and strength to get some dex if they want it.
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>>52812471
>possibility
You mean inevitability

unless you're the admitted Diamond Dog
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>>52812499
It definitely isn't me!

...what's a Diamond Dog?
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>>52812515
Someone who applies to a lewd game with a non-lewd character intended solely to disrupt any lewd actions.
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>>52812471
>>52812490

Blehhhhh, maybe 20 pb and no full casters.
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>>52812527
Where the heck did the term diamond dog come from?
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>mfw lewd games are even a thing
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>>52812527

>Build a spherecaster whose talents are specifically calibrated to cockblock the rest of the party and the monsters they fight as hard as possible

I can respect it.
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>>52812527
That's silly! There's nothing wrong with having a good time on the side. Even heroes get hungry!
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>>52812575
The term started because people like Vier's player were literally trying to destroy the game
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>>52812543
People like referencing Metal Gear.
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>>52812611
I just don't see how a non-lewd character relates to metal gear.
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>>52812540

Consider instead of PB, offering arrays

Like 14/14/14/14/14/10 is normally 25 pts but a caster would probably not want that array, but a martial would probably be fine with having a 16 as their offensive stat.
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>>52812575

Word.
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>>52812619
I think it's just like, you infiltrate to destroy it from within
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>>52812628
I always thought of that as like a sleeper agent or mole or something.
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>>52812639
I just figured it's what you do in Metal Gear games
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>>52812192
I would jump on this game instantly. I would love to play this sort of thing.
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What are some fun builds you've tried? It feels like I get bored of every character I play after 2-3 sessions.
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>>52812624
This, arrays are generally an equalizer I've found and in some cases can even empower certain underpowered classes.
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>>52812666
Wouldn't something like The Patriots or The Philosophers be more appropriate? Diamond Dogs were supposed to be gritty mercenaries.

Hell, even Militaires Sans Frontieres would be more appropriate.
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>>52812639
Snake has a penchant for infiltrating strongholds of pure bullshit, and blowing it all up
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>>52812543
I'm assuming it's making fun of old Quentin comics
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>>52812682
We seem to be operating on 2 different definitions of Infiltrating
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>>52812672
Throk'Gar, master of many mighty magics. His most common spell is "Power Word Kill", when he hits his opponents with his axe "Power Word".

He also casts lots of spells like "Burning Hands" (alchemists fire), and "Flare Burst" (Fungal Stun Vial).

The secret twist after 2-3 sessions of me convincing the party he was just a crazy half-orc fighter with a nice bag of tricks? He actually WAS a wizard the whole time.
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>>52812358
No, but at this point it;s obviously just going to compound on itself.

Everyone THINKS your game is just going to be silly shit because that's all anyone applies with, at this point if you don't apply with what is basically a shit post you're just going to cause friction with the party.
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>>52812708
Some of the joke characters can work pretty well with serious characters.
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>>52812341
>Lysander intimidates the shit out of Rom
>Lad tries to run
>Becomes a canary and collapses in the coa-ley mine
>Sigmund goes full DAD mode and scoops him up
>Mad dash to get from the mine to the mansion for miasma free air
>The boys pull ahead, girls lag behind
>Just as Sigmund gets back to the mansion, Rom in his arms, the Manticore finds them again
>First aid is underway when the roar hits
>Beast attacks the girls who throw all their spells at it
>Enlarged, Inspired, Smiting Gloriana tries to 1v1 the Manticore
>It gets a free round of spike attacks at her as she runs at it
>She cleaves a chunk of it's shoulder off in one hit
>In return, it mauls her and downs her
>Jumps to bon-bon and downs her in one bite because of troll damage
>Chases an invisible Cashmere, hunting that irresitable smell of virgin Nightwalker
>Keeps critting it's perception checks after she turns invisible
>Downs her and scoops her up in its jaws just as The Golden Gun Duo get back to the scene
>Sigmund fires away but can't kill it before it escapes
>Dina Martel, daughter of the Martel family, catches up to finish the RP that was "supposed" to happen concurrent with the ambush

Logs will be in a few days
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>>52812708
>GM actually visits the thread
>"lel nope"
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>>52812707
So just a Barbarian reskin of The Wizard?
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>>52810980
When are those coming out anyways anon?
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I never thought I'd see the day where a cat seems like one of the more serious serious applications
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>>52812708

I think you might be exaggerating, but assuming the name Overlewd was a play on the videogames "Overlord" it is a pretty light hearted take on evil.

App backgrounds are so overvalued anyway, let me explain:

1/3 of the apps are garbage quality to begin with, so lets say out of 50 apps we now have 20, maybe a dozen of these will have schedules that line up, and from those 12 it's likely there will be only a few choices to form a party that is cohesive.
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>>52812728
A what?
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>>52812728
To me, it's always fun to play a build where you benevolently deceive your party members for a dramatic reveal.

One time, there was a rogue in my party that, while never using UMD or even an Alchemical or magical item, managed to convince us she was a wizard for four levels before we realized she wasn't. She was my inspiration for Throk'gar.
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>>52812708
I want joke character reviews, no serious characters included no matter how good they are.
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>>52812751
It's a play on the LN/Anime Overlord.
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>>52812751
>>52812777
Minimumwake said the tone he's aiming for is more like Saints Row 2,
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>>52812726
>Jumps to bon-bon and downs her in one bite

Delicious
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>>52812752
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>>52812626
Man.

I want garlic bread now.

>>52812543
Diamond Dog has been used in a ton of places over the years. Hell, even ponies used it for a band of burrowing dog dudes who were digging for gems.
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>>52812775
What are the joke apps?
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>>52812775

Personally I like the Gundam, although it seems impossible to actually have a game that includes it because it would constantly outshine everyone.

>>52812785

SR2 has dramatically silly characters doing very serious things, so I think even succubed could work in that regard. Well, maybe not, succubed is ridiculous.
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>>52812802
Anyone the person being asked doesn't like/want to bang
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>>52812795
The party is low on healing!
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>>52812804
I was hoping to avoid that by putting a focus on team-support abilities. The kind of "Red Ranger" style where you may not be the most powerful fighter, but your friends always are.

So, that's why I loaded up on Silver Crane Heals, and Golden Lion buffs. And now that I've got Destruction suited up for having ranged option, upon leveling further spheres were gonna be support magic like Enhance.
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>>52812708
I saw all of the silly apps and said fuck that and made a serious character. Just make what you want.
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>>52812863
What's better, do we think? To be a silly character doing serious things, or to be a serious character who ends up doing silly things?
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>>52812852

I don't mean in a mechanical way, I just mean that it's impossible to compete in coolness with fairy voltron.
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>>52812358
>>52812708
>>52812724
>>52812751
>>52812802
>>52812814
The fact that nobody can agree on anything is hilarious to me for some reason. The screeching about "EVERY DUDE IS MADE TO FUCK A SPECIFIC GIRL APP, ONLY THE GIRL APPS ARE GOOD" without specifics beyond "dude Raine has an F-list" is my favorite Overlewd meme of all time, though.
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>>52812878
>To be a silly character doing serious things, or to be a serious character who ends up doing silly things

Both, because then it's like Cable & Deadpool.
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>>52812878
To be multi-dimensional, whether your personality is serious or silly.

To be human.
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>>52812878

The latter, I feel.

A silly character doing serious things tends to either appear disarmingly badass or undermines the seriousness of their doings because they're so silly.

A serious character doing silly things is never not comedy gold.
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>>52812777
>>52812751
Apparently it's both.
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>>52812707
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>>52812898
Ah, the Naked Gun approach.
Think Overlewd could pull that off?
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>>52812863
I saw Succubed and said "Shit, I gotta pull my A game to compete with that for originality."

>>52812880
Heh, I imagine a robot made out of mostly single digit year old fairies will get into it's fair share of slapstick.
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All this focus on "silly" apps is missing that some of them are just lighthearted in tone. I mean something like succubed is all together a joke, yes, but it's not all or nothing.
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Were Teamwork feats successful in your opinion? Where have you seen them work?
Is that TW Feat-centric class actually good?
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>>52812931
You don't, really. You just have to execute your concept well.
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>>52812933
No, fairy voltorn, succubed, straight up 2B, and the fucking dominatrix that's basically a new game+ joke is incredibly silly fucking bullshit.

Like I'd be legit insulted if someone brought those concepts to my table, but I'm not the DM so my opinion doesn't mean shit.
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>>52812785
I never played a Saint's Row game, tell me more about what that means. My understanding of the Saint's Row games is that they're Grand Theft Auto plus more of a "LUL ZANYFUN RANDOM XDDD" factor and a collection of over-the-top weapons and vehicles you can throw money around to get if you want to fuck shit up.
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>>52812947
I've seen the ones that are +4 to hit to flanking and flank from any adjacent squares see a lot of use, as well as Amplified Rage and Shake it Off. I've never seen another one used.
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>>52812947
I've theorized a few builds involving that one feat for Kineticists to make composite blasts. With the Bestial Kineticist archetype released in Legendary Kineticists 2, though, it's honestly looking to be a really, REALLY strong pick for kineticists who are willing to sink 4 feats into it
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>>52812041
Hat of disguise so you can pretend to be someone useful.
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>>52812962
That was Saints Row the Third and onward.
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>>52812962

Saints Row 2 was the best one because the story was very serious generally speaking, but the characters were very silly.

So it was silly characters doing serious things. Later it turned into silly characters doing silly things and lost the magic.
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>>52812971
Explain?
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>>52812962
Play Saints Row 2.
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>>52812957
The dude said that the players got to decide the tone. So if a bunch of serious apps get in, it'll be a serious game.

If Fairy Voltron and Succubed get in, it'll be a light hearted game. (I honestly thing new game+ could be done seriously. I mean, grappling with the boredom of immortality is a long standing thing in DnD, and a number of villains go crazy from exactly that.)

Whether you should be insulted depends on what you asked for. If you made a standard game of "Alright, gritty fantasy adventures stopping evil!" and I showed up with Fairy Voltron, you are right, you should be offended and I should be ashamed of bringing it.

But if you named your campaign overlewd and said we can be saturday morning cartoon villains, and I bring Fairy Voltron, no, you should not be offended.

It's a matter of communication.
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>>52812962
>>52812991
>>52813026
Hey, you guys know what you can get for free RIGHT FUCKING NOW? Saints Row 2!
I sure hope you fucks have a GOG account
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>>52812975
>>52812962
Yeah, SR2 the kind of game where you know your rival's big into monster truck stunts, so you kidnap his girlfriend and put her in the trunk of one of the cars in the stunt where they drive over and crush a bunch of cars. It's also the kind of game where the reconstructive surgery from the end of SR1 can give you a sex change.
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Saint's Row 2 is free on GOG right now.

https://www.gog.com/
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Hey so if I'm going to put some Big Name Dragons into my campaign as late-game bosses, what should I have their names be if they're based around Time and Space?

Also I can't decide if I should make them siblings or lovers. Regardless of which one I go with they'll come as a pair.
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>>52813031

Seriousfags are like the lowest form of RP where they think listing personality disorders and alcohol addiction on their sheet makes them amazing roleplayers despite having no serious understand of psychology at all.

It's a step above edgefaggotry, the smallest step possible
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>>52813039
FUCK. For real. Oh shit, thanks.

I know what I'm doing Friday night.
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>>52813067
>Also I can't decide if I should make them siblings or lovers
Why not both?
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>>52813031
Overlewd's probably bound to have a lot of salt no matter what the end party is and even for a /pfg/ game. There's gonna be like, the second best app not getting in because it doesn't match the tone of the first and third best app.
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>>52813069
There's a difference between "lol drugs and alcohol addiction" serious and "please don't bring a fucking worn out Disgaea gag to the table"
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>>52813091

Who's ready for NG+, Succubed, Fairy Voltron, and Dominatrix Saturday morning cartoon villain adventures?
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>>52813067
Siblings who hate each other, but hate the party more.

>Names
Kilapa and Gildaa. Just trust me.
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>>52813105

What Disgaea gag?
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>>52813109
>Characters of NG+ rebel against the empire made by the first set of PCs!
>The Overlewd world is stuck in a never ending cycle of rebellions.
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>>52813083
I should have seen that coming to be honest.

>>52813110
I feel like I should look those names up on Google...
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>>52813081
Be warned, nigga, that the game runs stupid fast on anything with a significantly faster CPU than an Xbox, because it uses CPU speed to set the game speed.

I don't know if the GOG version has that fixed, but there's a speed throttled application about, and I fixed it by changing the clock settings on my computer according to advice I found in a steam thread.
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>>52812947
Outflank is good. Escape Route is good. Harrying Partners is good if you've got someone who does Aid Another regularly. Stealth Synergy is good if you wanna help your loud dudes sneak better.
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>>52813133

Next campaign is UNDERLEWD, where CH plucky rebels have to overthrow the evil lewd empire.
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>>52813134
Just trust me.
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>>52813130
But nobody's applied with a character wielding a horsecock yet...
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>>52813130
Sentai/Super robots LOL mecha tropes in a fantasy setting and characters that display at least some awareness that they're in an RPG setting.

Honestly Disgaea is a pretty good example of how a little levity can degenerate into bullshit. Compare the first two games to the last 2(I was sick of the series by D2 and 5) in terms of tone.
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>>52813149
>Underlewd
I want to call Gnollmom mom and have her make me a cinnamon pie.
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>>52813162
DO NOT.
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>>52813162
Butterscotch pies are superior.

>>52813155
I can't find anything with a cursory google search so I'll take your suggestion with a suspicious look on my face.
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>>52813031
>>52813091
Do we have shitpost-tier on-line greentext summaries of all the characters yet? I think someone did one for the girls, but what about the dudes?
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>>52813159
How fortunate I've only played the first one.
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>>52813176

What, don't like pie?
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>>52813017
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Interweave%20Composite%20Blast

Interweave Composite Blast lets a pair of kineticists make a composite blast as early as level one. It's a very, VERY wordy feat, and kind of difficult to use properly (as you need to have two kineticists in the party and they need to pick elements that have composite blasts, which limits build options).

HOWEVER

Legendary Kineticists 2 brought us the Bestial Kineticist Animal Companion archetype. Essentially, your horse/dog/cat is now a kineticist and can shoot lasers out of its dick or whatever. Kineticists aren't a feat-heavy class, so they can afford to drop feats on Nature Soul, Animal Ally, Boon Companion, then Interweave Composite Blast. You give your animal companion that archetype, and now you don't have to worry about another player taking it.

>>52813162
>Gnollmom

and so it begins...
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>>52813069
This is why you have events happen in your backstory that cause those issues. This is much like how you and I became fucked enough to go on a children's cartoon image board and talk about how much we love pretending to not be ourselves.
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>>52813162
>>52813190
I've actually made butterscotch cinnamon pies because of that game, and they're actually really delicious.
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>>52813195
Mechanically speaking, they do a great sob of improving the gameplay.

I can recommend Dark Hero Days/PC port. Do the main campaign+Axel Mode.
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>>52813222
What recipe did you use?
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>>52813162
And thus a game that didn't even exist has already been killed by /pfg/.
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>>52813159
>Sentai/Super robots LOL mecha tropes in a fantasy setting
Disgaea Universe has always been crazy anachronistic and self aware. Makai straight up has Metal Slugs and Cruisers. Plus 3 is objectively the best one.

Go back to Phantom Brave and GrimGrimoire
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>>52813255
>Disgaea Universe has always been crazy anachronistic and self aware. Makai straight up has Metal Slugs and Cruisers
Anachronisms aren't an issue. Fuck, technically the mechs and shit in Disgaea aren't anachronism since the human worlds in those games have tech levels greater to or equal to real life.

The self-aware jokes were always there too, but they moved from being one off gags into bigger and bigger stinks.
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>>52813044
That's sad. I feel bad for her. She didn't have anything to do with this, man.
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>>52813190
Actually while I'm at it I'm not super confident in the names I've given my other "end game boss Dragons" that I'm going to include. All in all I've got 5 of them, each holding domain over an aspect of things and leading an army based off of that thing.

All in all the ones I have in mind are:
> Undead Dragon, may or may not be Dracolich
> Construct Dragon, goal is trying to build an Aspect of Tiamat from scratch
> Nature/Plant Dragon, essentially an evil druid that wants to wipe out puny humanoid civilizations and bring things back to zero
> Time and Space dragons, either lovers or twin siblings (probably not going to do both unless I really want to play up the creepy factor for my more vanilla players) that are just generally unpleasant and are the type to lounge about draped over each other, monologuing to the players after catching them in some "inescapable" trap

(also I think captcha wanted me to identify a gas station from a video game, weird)
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>>52813110
Fuck you, you stole my joke.

>>52813134
Google won't tell you anything about those names, but if you say please, I will.
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>>52813356
WAIT NO DON'T TELL HIM
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>>52813383
WELL NOW I'M CURIOUS, TELL ME TELL ME TELL ME!
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>>52812728
With a power-glove and all?
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>>52810824
Actually, I'm considering running Pretty Paladins in Peril.

The twist is that everybody gets free Cha 18 (before racials), 20 point-buy besides that and Paladin Gestalt.

The game is what it sounds like.
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>tfw you will never D-Dog a lewd game as Patches
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>>52813441
It's not too late.
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>>52813440
>an effective 37 PB
>all Paladins

Do... Do we get to use Paladin of Freedom?
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>>52813440
What books allowed?
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>>52813440
Holy hell I'm applying to this. Favorite class, awesome PB, what's not to like?
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>>52813467
I can't,no free time.
Sorry, friend
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>>52813467
>Patches will never kick you down his deep hole full of monsters

Why live anons
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>>52813440
I cannot join you, I am afraid. For obvious reasons.
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>>52807574
DHB as a lot of people have already said this doesn't solve the hard problem of the Wizard. When people get annoyed at Wizards it's definitely [not] because of Silver Bullet.
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>>52813529
Personally, silver bullet is my problem with Wizards.
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>Even for Wizards, Discord was sick and depraved group, not content to just create monstrous beasts of immense strength and unnatural resilience. They took particular pleasure in creating such beasts in the form of beautiful females. They regularly gathered to contest who had created the most dangerous, and bustiest monstrous humanoid. In a continual effort to one up another their creations gained more and more bizarre proportions, all under the ever present cry of “Thicker! Thicker! THICKER!”
Ebin
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>>52813473
I will be homebrewing Paladins of Neutral Good and Chaotic Good.

>>52813481
Booksharing principle. You must be able to cogently explain and defend any 3PP materials you make use of.

>>52813488
As a warning, it probably won't be a regular game with set times. Instead I'll probably just run whenever I feel like it and there are players around, like a Living World except for everything wrong with Living World campaigns.
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>>52813440
I'm drooling.
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>>52813565
>Paladins of Chaotic Good
>Potential to use Jolly materials

AW YEAAAA-
>probably won't be a regular game with set times
>like a Living World

Fuck
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>>52813565

How cute do we have to be for this campaign?
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>>52813594
The cutest.

You can even be a cute boy.
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>>52813565
That could almost work, and the premise sounds like it might be really cute.
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>>52813606
Can I be a Cute Kitsune Girl (Boy)?
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>>52813606

I can? Even a boy?

But what if I want to be DASHING? Like Gaston?
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>>52813606
>TFW the campaign has a minimum comeliness score for apps
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>>52813626
Which is it. boy or girl?
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>>52813512
I wonder what R63 Patches would look like
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>>52813606

Define cute.
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>>52813648
Boy. That happens to look like a girl.
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This is your reminder for what your character sounds like when you combine too much STR and CHA.

https://youtu.be/CXz78oEDPTw
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I dont have a roll20 account at all, should I get one just so I can finally see what's now apparently the focus of every thread from now on?
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>>52813671
>sleep's face when
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>>52813676
Why are you even here?
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>>52813671
>not going the Dex/Cha melee route
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>>52813665
So just say boy, then. It's not actually a girl.
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>>52813671
Seems like she skimped out a little on CHA to pump CON.
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>>52813676
Might as well.
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>>52813688
>implying Joshua doesn't have at least 13 Str
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>>52813686
Just to suffer, perhaps?
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>>52813671
>Nothing is stronger then my love for you... Except my biceps.
Oh god. I want to play this.
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>>52813671
Strictly Superior
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK4Do3u04u0
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>>52813700
Feat taxes though.
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>>52813562

WE NEED TO GO THICCER
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>>52813702
You feel it too, don't you?
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>>52813713
AKU, NO.
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>>52813688
I played Joshua with with a name change once. Good times.
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>>52813719
NO. AKU YES!
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>>52813719
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>>52813737
>>52813742
what the fuck?
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>>52813707

>-2 DEX, -2 CON

To tamper in god's domain and come away with such meager gains. Disappointing.

https://youtu.be/ejcDd2FflGM
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>>52813440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcFIR6Bft9g

OKAY, elevator pitch.

IN A WORLD...

A great evil took over the world using hordes of demons and machinery beyond comprehension. The five greatest kingdoms of the world sent out their five most attractive heroes and gave them the blessings of their gods to defeat the evil, using them to rally the armies of the righteous to crush this threat.

They failed, and the world was plunged into darkness. The heroes could not be killed, however... as their blessings resulted in them being revived at the nearest holy site. So the evil gathered up all of the relics and holy items and cast them into the Tetranopticon, a vast interdimensional prison cut off from linear time.

Stripped of their power and banished into a prison teeming with the worst, the heroes have become...

PRETTY PALADINS IN PERIL!

>Traits to be in the men's or women's sections of the prison despite your sex.
>All Paladin archetypes are allowed, more or less, to create diversity.
>Every character must describe the code of ethics they live by.
>Lawful Good ethics are proscriptive and demand action: "you may not be evil", "you must oppose evil and bring justice"
>Neutral Good ethics are relativist and demand philosophical rigor: "you must create the best of all worlds",
>Chaotic good ethics are aesthetic and demand action: "you must be righteous", "you must oppose oppression and bring freedom"
>No non-consensual sex, but seducing enemies may be a way to resolve challenges.
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>>52813355
Not to rain on this thiccposting, but does anyone have any ideas on this one? Also nobody told me the secret, buncha meanies...
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>>52813742
>>52813737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEgwxGWgiIg
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>>52813737
>>52813742
Thicc-mind
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>>52813757
Try again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixozSMUBPmI
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>>52813784
I want to play a Tortured Crusader who's hilariously edgy!
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>>52813751
Have you not seen the new Samurai Jack?
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>>52813784
>and THAT'S how I escaped from space prison!
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>>52813784
>Tetranopticon
Are we imprisoned there for 1,000,000 years?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHtUP_XIiD0
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>>52813807

The waifu so nice they made her twice.

A woman with a mother complex finding out her own daughter is EXACTLY like the mother she had such a complicated relationship with has gotta be a weird situation.
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>>52813562
THICKER
THICKER
THICKER
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>>52813784
All this makes me want to do is play my "Wacky Inflatable Aim Flailing Tube-Man" build which is a horrible bastardization of Champion of Irori, Iroran Paladin, Scaled Monk, and Chevalier.

The last time I made this character it was a man on the road to enlightenment.
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I think the best Overlewd party would be a mix of serious and joke apps.

Someone lewd and strong, someone serious and sedate (but maybe also lewd), someone smart and sexy, someone charming and reliable and maybe like, a healer.
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I think I have managed to create a 5th-level, optimized spheremighter with a legitimately interesting and varied playstyle. It still falls into the same pattern of "kill everything with overwhelming damage," but it can at least mix up said pattern every so often.

Level: 5th
Race: Human
Class: Armiger 5
Ability Scores (20 point buy): Strength 17+2+1+2, Dexterity 12, Constitution 14, Intelligence 12, Wisdom 12, Charisma 7
Key Traits: Empathic Diplomat (Regional), Reactionary (Combat)

Feats:
• Human Bonus: Muscular Reflexes
• 1st-level: Power Attack
• 3rd-level: Furious Focus
• 5th-level: Extra Combat Talent

Prowesses:
• Armiger 2: Armored
• Armiger 4: Skilled Weapon

Martial Tradition: Brutal Butcher
• Equipment (no dedication): Armor Training, Axe Training
• Dueling (Bloodless Combatant drawback, Clumsy Disarmer drawback, 2 free): Defensive Slice, Scar Tissue
• Gladiator (Braggart drawback, 1 free): Fan Favorite

Other Combat Talents: 5 = 3 armiger + 1 Armored + 1 Extra Combat Talent
• Athletics (Naturally Talented drawback): Sparrow's Path (legendary)
• Equipment (1 free): Oversized Weapons
• Guardian (Indifferent Defender drawback, 1 free): Cold Iron Call, Durable
• Lancer (Broad Attacks drawback, 1 free): Superior Reach

Customized Greataxe #1:
• Berserking: Furious Charge
• Lancer (already have this): Advancing Carnage

Customized Greataxe #2:
• Fencing (Clumsy Footing drawback, Honorable Combatant drawback): Parry and Riposte, Parry Anything (legendary)
• Guardian (already have this): Punishment (legendary)

Customed Dwarven Waraxe:
• Alchemy (Formula package, 1 free): Focusing Formula
• Athletics (already have this): Swift Movement
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>>52813922

Key Equipment (10,500 gp):
• 4,000 gp: Cracked pale green prism ioun stone
• 2,650 gp: +1 full plate
• 2,200 gp: Ring of feather falling
• 1,000 gp: Cloak of resistance +1
• 500 gp: Cracked dusty rose prism ioun stone
• 60 gp: Large dwarven waraxe
• 40 gp: Large greataxe
• 40 gp: Large greataxe

Initiative:
1 Dexterity modifier
+2 trait from reactionary
+1 competence from cracked dusty rose prism ioun stone
Total: +3

Attack Bonus with Greataxe Brutal Strike:
5 BAB
+6 Strength modifier
+1 enhancement
+1 competence from cracked pale green prism ioun stone
Total: +13

Damage with Greataxe Brutal Strike:
3d6 Large greataxe
+9 Strength modifier multiplied
+1 enhancement
+6 Power Attack
+2 Axe Training
+10 Brutal Strike
Total: 3d6+28 (total 38.5)

Attack Bonus with Greataxe Rapid Assault:
5 BAB
+6 Strength modifier
+1 enhancement
+1 competence from cracked pale green prism ioun stone
-2 Power Attack
-2 rapid assault
Total: +9

Damage with Greataxe Rapid Assault:
3d6 Large greataxe
+9 Strength modifier multiplied
+1 enhancement
+6 Power Attack
Total: 3d6+17 (total 26.5)
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>>52813893
Well, from the looks of things, they may already have at least three of those.
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>>52813893

>lewd and strong

So basically none of the apps?
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Has there been greentext from Volorexis GM? I was actually looking forward to it.
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>>52813934

The character starts their first turn by drawing their dwarven waraxe, immediately dedicating their focus to it, and then moving up to an enemy (possibly flying). They stow the waraxe, bring out greataxe #1, expend martial focus, and completely destroy an enemy with a Brutal Strike rapid assault. If both attacks hit, that is a whopping 65 damage (more with a blacksmith in the party), enough to take out higher-HP CR 5s or lower-HP CR 6s. (No, 5th-level characters reliably one-turn-killing CR 5s and 6s with zero resource expenditure is in no way normal.) If that kills the enemy, they regain martial focus, reactivate greataxe #1, stow it, and reactivate greataxe #2.

If multiple weaker enemies present themselves, they can instead try for an Advancing Carnage attack to spread out damage.

If need be, the character can regain martial focus as a move action by chugging a Focusing Formula.
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>>52813945
WE
HAVE
TO
GO
THICKER
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>>52813784
I am all the sold.
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>>52813950

Defensively, the character is a beast. They always end their turn with greataxe #2 active. They have 10 feet of fully threatening reach, 7 attacks of opportunity each round (9 with dedication to the Guardian sphere), damage reduction 4/bludgeoning, and bleed resistance 2. If they succeed on a saving throw against an enemy's effect, they roll twice and take the higher result on their next attack roll.

They can spend an attack of opportunity to make an attack roll to counter *any* attack against them (even from spells and massive weapons), and if faced with anything that prompts a Reflex save (e.g. a dragon's breath), they can spend an attack of opportunity to make an attack roll against that and gain evasion.

The character has a 15-point delayed damage pool, and delays just about every hostile debuff possible on them by one round. They can use the Punishment legendary talent to offload any delayed damage and debuffs onto an enemy (if they fail a saving throw), which means that if an enemy has the gall to throw a hold person at the armiger, the armiger could delay the paralysis and then whack the enemy to transfer said paralysis. Very nasty.

While this is an interesting playstyle, I worry that the damage output is rather overwhelming by 5th-level standards, especially since this does not even account for a party blacksmith. What does everyone think of this build's balance point?
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>>52813956

Umbra is pretty darn thick, but is a ranged caster of some kind? I can't make heads or tails of all this 3PP stuff
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>>52813922

>Kill everything with overwhelming damage

So it's a martial?
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>>52813945
Did you notice the troll?
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>>52813989

No, what troll?
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>>52813970
NO ANON

I'M TALKING ABOUT 4916

NOT ONLY IS SHE THICC

SHE'S
FUCKING
INVINCIBLE
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>>52813975
In 2hu's head, martials shitting out insane damage is badwrongfun.
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>>52813956

Anon, if you go much thicker, you'll risk turning everything into pic related.
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>>52814004
A miserable little pile of meta jokes.
I honestly hope this isn't just a bamboozle app, because it'd be hilarious if she plays it straight.
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>>52814023
THE DISCORD WIZARDS DEMAND THICC
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>>52814004
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4905558/applications-go-here/?pageforid=4942986#post-4942986
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>>52813975

Correct. In this sense, does Spheres of Might actually change the paradigm meaningfully, apart from making martials better at killing people and better at shrugging off effects?

Spheres of Might is less "you now have martials with meaningful utility, even out of combat" and more "you are doing what you were already doing, only with even more damage, and more implacably."
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>>52814005

Oh jesus

>One such wizard, Mistua, used this place to create strange hybrid creatures...

>Mistua

>AUTISM

What the fuck I'm dying
>>
>>52814040
What if that's what I wanted it to be?

Why can't you just fuck off?
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>>52812318
The ungodly autism and focus on corner-case theory op instead of practical op.

And possibly being triggered by avatarfags/weebs.
>>
Why is that there are no mechanical benefits to having horns? It has been always curious to me.
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>>52814051
>Just because the rules allow it doesn't mean we have to fix it!
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>>52814040

To be fair, this describes every attempt to fix martials.

Nothing has ever really given them meaningful out of combat utility. Third party stuff just makes pathfinder combat less of a boring garbage fire.

Maybe someday someone will figure out how to decouple "utility" and "magic" but I'm not optimistic.
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>>52814055
>what are gore attacks
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>>52814055
But they're love hand holds! That's why you have horns! So your partner can have something to grab hold of and really guide your head to where he or she needs it to be!
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>>52814055

But there are-a gore natural attack.
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>>52813970
Looks like mostly casting with touch attacks, Divine Anathema isn't casting so much as like... typeless damage you deal based on Channel Energy

is pretty THICC though
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>>52814063
>Just because it exists we have to fix it
No.
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>>52814045
Oh, and here I thought that was a joke on Wist.
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>>52814055
There can be, but a lot of horns are just for aesthetics than actual use. Get a gore attack if you want to attack with your horns.
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>>52813949
>tfw my question got caught between 2hu posts
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>>52814045
That app is fucking gold
>>
>>52814083
Then people will complain that the broken options weren't caught and fixed.
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>>52814055
Depends. Some creatures DO get bonuses for horns, a Gore attack. However, for most character builds, your horns aren't gorey enough.
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>>52814104
Sure, but these ridiculous, vacuum scenario builds just don't prove anything to normal players beyond "wow look what happens if I intentionally try to break something!"
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>>52814123
So just because people have to try and break things doesn't mean the broken things shouldn't be fixed?
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>>52814070
If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, all you have to do to "fix" the usefulness of martials is make them more anime inherently. If someone has 25 Str they should be able to bench press a carriage and use Awesome Blow at will, if they have 22 Dex they should be able to Flash Step at least once a day, if they have ungodly amounts of Con they should be able to gain fast healing every round, stuff like that.
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>>52814075
Irrumatio is one of my top three
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>>52814148
MAH NIGGA
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>>52814138

Although I don't think you should need to have ridiculously high physical stats to do cool and useful things as a martial character, particularly since unlike SAD characters you're unlikely to be autistically hyper-focused on making one stat as high as possible.

>>52814135

To be fair, this is the baseline design philosophy of 3.PF as a whole.
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>>52814070
Nothing is ever going to fix it, it's an inherent system flaw and no addition is going to make things work. You'd need a huge overhaul or either or both of magic and skills, as well as a huge amount of adjustments on the class end.

Fact is that there's no point trying to balance out Pathfinder on the system end, no one plays it for that, there's so much work to do that it's probably better to use or build something else entirely, and you can still get perfectly reasonable games on the running side between sensible players and a competent DM.
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>>52814135
No, but these beyond ridiculous fringe builds that will never see actual play and only function in a vacuum shouldn't be held up as the standard of a system's problems.
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>>52814070

Paizo's own vigilante did a good job of this by divorcing social talents from vigilante talents and presenting a wealth of social talents.

Spheres of Might puts its noncombat-oriented talents in the same resource pool as "And now you can deal more damage/shrug off things that would stop you from dealing damage."
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>>52814089
>poking fun at Wist

What monster would dream of such a horrid thing?!
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>>52814156
>To be fair, this is the baseline design philosophy of 3.PF as a whole.
Yeah, but fuck pathfinder
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>>52814095

>“Thicker! Thicker! THICKER!”

My fucking sides anons
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>>52812540
Dude, high point buy is not higher power. It's more accommodating to MAD classes. A caster can get a post racial 20 on anything but 10 PB.

Don't fall for the Paizo description bamboozle.
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>>52814197
It can be, it allows SAD classes to be more powerful more easily without as much suffering. I agree, though, that it's more accommodating to AMD classes.
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>>52814156
Perhaps don't use the numbers I list there, but since the average commoner uses a 10 PB and can at most get 18 in a given stat, I would estimate that is the peak of normal human ability. Anything past that should be considered superhuman and grant extra inherent abilities to your character on top of the extra +1 to whatever that stat adds to, because +1's are boring. Give me cool, flavorful effects!
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>>52814010
And a samsaran wizard who completely shuts down every encounter with orator and fey obedience diplomacy checks is a-ok
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>>52814040
Note that we still do not have the skills spheres/chapter stuff, so out of combat utility may still be in the works.
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>>52814226
Because this obviously happens outside of vacuums.

Oh wait, it doesn't!
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>>52814177
This is a proper meme app

Overlewd apps are fun.
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>>52814238
It's interesting to see an app that is at once, pretty good and intensely memed.

Until now we've only seen one or the other.
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>>52814236
You haven't been paying attention to 2hu's track record in games, have you?
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>>52814253
One player who purposely breaks games and makes them unfun for other players is obviously the norm and not an outlier, my mistake.
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>>52814226
How are you shutting down an encounter with a diplomacy check?
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>>52814247
I haven't read the app or any Overlewd app and I'm too lazy to go find a link. Someone greentext me the hype here so my retard brain can process it.
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>>52814247

I wouldn't call it intensely memed, this is the first I've heard of it, and it's only a few hours old. Unless you mean memes contained in the app?
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>>52814173
I bet Roryanon would
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>>52814253
>implying 2hu was accepted to any games other than HR
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Oh heck off, witch hunters.
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>>52814266
>guys
>guys
>guys
>what if
>I
>take monsters
>and make them
>girls
>and sell monstergirls
>across worlds
>and make them thick
>thicker
>THICKER
>big titty troll survives the sexual monster mash battle arena proving grounds
>sold to a glory-hungry knight boi who's all about that tiddy
>he dies or vanishes or some shit

It's all irrelevant, because she's a giant woman with giant boobs who's FUCKING INVINCIBLE.
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>>52814173
Me, because I tease my friends and other people I like.
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>>52814288
>muh witch hunters
He's an autistic fuck that can't resist breaking a system by forcing rules to interact and then ruin the enjoyment of others.

I bet you suck his dick in the Discord whenever he links one of his stupid fucking builds.
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>>52814294
I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE
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>>52814281
I accepted 2hu into a game. Sadly, half the players left before the first session.
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>>52814264
I don't think I'm arguing what you think I'm arguing.
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>>52814294

Don't forget anon

>And the code of a knight, even an evil one obsessed with power, combined with her duty as a bodyguard has her cemented her belief to protect anyone she views weaker than she is, which is to say, everyone, until proven otherwise.

SHE WANTS TO PROTECT YOUR SMILE.
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>>52814226

They are far from "a-ok," but if the GM is actually allowing them, then why not play them? The GM explicitly allowing such things is a sign that the GM has a very high power level in mind.

>>52814233

I have heard nothing of a "skill spheres" section for Spheres of Might. As far as I am aware, noncombat talents are relegated to things such as Boxing's Verbal Counter (actually a very interesting ability!) and Fencing's Read Foe (much more banal and spartan).

However, why would a martial prioritize such things when they could be taking talents like Oversized Weapons to turn their greataxe from Axe Training into a 3d6 damage weapon, or Superb Reach for another 5 feet of reach on top of the Lancer dedication?
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>>52814316
Was it because of him?
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>>52814316
What was the game about, fampire?
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>>52814334
Because not everyone is concerned with killing shit constantly.
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>>52814334
>However, why would a martial prioritize such things when they could be taking talents like Oversized Weapons to turn their greataxe from Axe Training into a 3d6 damage weapon, or Superb Reach for another 5 feet of reach on top of the Lancer dedication?
Because they're not a faggot who lives and dies based on how optimized they are?
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>>52814334
oh boy here we go again
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>>52814358
>Why use *Blank* when you could take *blank* and kill the enemy faster

We hear that all the heckin' time here.
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>>52814366
So /pfg/ is filled with even more munchkins than I thought.
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>>52814357
>>52814358

If they want to encourage the selection of such utility talents, then perhaps they should take a page from Paizo's vigilante and give characters a separate, complimentary progression of utility talents.

Spheres of Might's troubadour is doing exactly that, although the troubadour has its own balance issues.
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>>52814382
Wow, it's almost like it's a playtest and your stupid fringe builds are meaningless!
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>>52814390
Isn't the point of a playtest to point out exactly this type of stuff?
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Reposting
Males [12]
$ Romulus Nohrm (27 years): 6' 6", 210 lbs || 198 cm, 95.3 kg
$ Allanz Gremund (18 years): 5' 11", ??? || 180 cm, ???
$ Sinh (???): ???
$ † Lucius Nacht (18 years): 6' 3", 200 lbs || 190.5 cm, 90.7 kg
$ Dr. Linus Lux (???): ???
$ ‡ Fahd Lutfi (26 years): 4' 7", 97 lbs || 139.7 cm. 44 kg
$ ※ Raine: ...
$ "King" Angelo Sette (???): ???
$ Alkurith Rekanthor (38 years): 4' 8", 54 lbs || 144.2 cm, 24.5 kg
$ Serax (24 years): 6' 2", 168 lbs || 188 cm, 76.2 kg
$ Stefon Vargrave (23 years): 5' 11", 145 lbs || 180 cm, 65.8 kg
$ Edward Loum (29 years): 6' 1", 156 lbs || 185.4 cm, 70.8 kg

† Six foot three as a freshman and weighing in at a /fit/ 200 pounds? Is this Chad Thundercock's bigger cousin?
‡ The shortest girl is half a foot taller than him, and the shortest girl with an actual body is almost a full foot taller.
※ I dunno if you realized mate but your character sheet is an F-list...

Females [18]
$ Emilia Ivanov (20 years): 5' 6", 135 lbs || 167.6 cm, 61 kg
$ Yamelia (???): ???
$ Salacia Mithlaeth (RIP): 5' 8", 160 lbs || 172.3 cm, 72.6 kg
$ Chiundra (315 years): 5' 6", 145 lbs || 167.6 cm, 65.8 kg
$ † Ecaterina (29 days): 7' 3" / 5' 4", 0 lbs || 221.0 cm / 162.6 cm, 0 kg
$ Cijiska (22 years): 6' 8", 212 lbs || 203.2cm, 96.2 kg
$ Umbranae (???): 7' 6", 386 lbs || 229 cm, 175 kg
$ Ingrid Proteah (31 years): 5'9", 144 lbs || 175.3 cm, 65.3 kg
$ Kanna (∞): ???
$ ‡ Konja K. Snusel (17 years): ???
$ Olivia Favillina (23 years): 5' 5", 115 lbs || 165.1 cm, 52.2 kg
$ Helvetica (28 years): 5', 0 lbs || 152.4 cm, 0 kg
$ Kenna Gunnhildr (19 years): 5' 6", 130 lbs || 167.6 cm, 59.0 kg
$ Aeshma (23 years): 5' 11", 125 lbs || 177.8 cm , 56.7 kg
$ Calesedria (???): ???
$ Rhyisjir the Burned (Pending): Pending
$ ^ Crytha Tamegall (13 years): 8'4" 350lbs || 254 cm, 158 kg
$ ※ 4916 (???): ???

† She's the size of a petite hill giant, is this even Medium?
‡ probably damn fucking heavy
※ Probably THICC!!!1!one
^ Just a LITTLE bit above the breakpoint for large size.
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>>52814390
Nah, troubadour is indeed completely stupid.
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Continued with new and improved statistics

Tallest:
Crytha (254 cm)
Umbrane (229 cm)
Ecaterina (221 cm)
Cisjika (203 cm)
Romulus (198 cm)

Heaviest:
Konja (~∞)
Umbrane (175 kg)
Crytha (158 kg)
Cijiska (96.2 kg)
Romulus (95.3 kg)

Lightest:
Helvetica (0)
Ecaterina (0)
Alkurith (24.5 kg)
Fahd (44 kg)
Olivia (52 kg)

Shortest:
Fahd (139.7 cm)
Alkurith (144.2 cm)
Helvetica (152.4 cm)
FalseMask!Ecaterina (162.6 cm)
Olivia (165.1 cm)

Oldest:
Kanna (∞)
Chiundra (315 years)
Alkurith (38 years)

Youngest:
Ecaterina (29 days)
Crytha (13 yrs)
Konja (17 years)

Highest Mass / Height Ratio‡:
Umbranae (76.42 kg / m) ※
Crytha (62.20 kg / m)
Romulus (48.13 kg / m)
Lucius (47.61 kg / m)
Cisjika (47.34 kg / m)

Lowest Mass / Height Ratio‡:
Ecaterina (0)
Helvetica (0)
Alkurith (16.99 kg / m)
Fahd (31.50 kg / m)
Olivia (31.62 kg / m)

Average Male Height, Weight [8 samples, 7 samples]
5' 9.25", 147 lbs || 175.8 cm, 66.7 kg

Average Female Height, Weight [12 samples, 12 samples]†
6' 2", 158 lbs || 187.7 cm,

Median Male Height, Weight
6', 156 lbs || 182.7 cm, 70.8 kg

Median Female Height, Weight
5' 8.5", 139.5 lbs || 173.8 cm, 63.3 kg

† Does not include Konja, who is probably 8' tall and weighs a few metric tons
‡ also known as Linear Mass Density γₘ for Engineering/Physicsfags
※ UGH THICCER etc.

NOTES:
Lucius has fallen off both the Tall and Heavy lists.
4916 is probably going to bump off the last male from the Tall and Heavy lists since she's UGH THICKER
Ecaterina is the recordholder of most lists made, being on five different lists. She's first place on three lists.
Overlewd is full of motherfucking manlets
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>>52814339
Considering that the players were a catgirl and foxgirl, I don't think that's the cause.

>>52814350
Harsh gritty world conflict politics with lots of tragic characters and tough choices from the perspective of the rulers/heirs to countries, (How do you deal with your vassal going "this guy killed all three of my children, so I will lead my army on a suicide mission for revenge"), only everyone is fluffy and cute.
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>>52814401
>Allanz Gremund (18 years): 5' 11", ??? || 180 cm, ???
I actually updated Allanz's weight in his char sheet. He's now 152lbs.
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>>52814328
Which character would you pair her with?
>Emilia, to bridal carry that succ?
>Romulus, for amazon press mustache rides?
>Sinh, for 'hey dragon, wanna /ss/?'
>Lucius, to protect that bird-boy's smile?
>Cijiska, so they can open a monstergirl brothel?
>Umbranae, to crash this plane with no survivors?
>Crytha, so the troll can pseudo that woodo?
>Konja, so we can hit critical meme mass?
>Rhyisjir, so their THIGHS can rub together and birth a new sun?
>Serax, so the she can ride the tiger into her holy diver?
>Stefon, for death by snu snu?
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>>52814070
It's a high magic game so the answer is no.

You cannot have characters in a world with magic as abundant as 3.PF not interact with it and be anything near able to handle mid or high level utility. It is a dilemma that has already been solved, and the solution is "give them magic". It doesn't have to be Vancian, it doesn't have to require bat guano and flapping arms, but it has to replicate spells and/or supernatural abilities.

If that is offensive to thine senses, E6 exists. Or OSR.
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>>52814401
>>52814410
>Overlewd is full of motherfucking manlets

What, is 9 lbs, 11 inches not man enough for you?
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>>52814382

That might work, but people are already getting shirty that spheres is adding a lot of complexity to building a martial as it is. If you then have to keep track of two or possibly THREE spheres instead of just not putting everything into killing stuff and ignoring utility (in which case why the fuck are you even bothering the full attack was all you needed) people might not bother.

Part of the nice thing about some of the stronger talent is that you don't need to optimize nearly as much to be effective.
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>>52814411
Dang, that is a pretty harsh world. I could see why they would drop.
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>>52814425

What are the chances the autistic wizard personification of /pfg/ would give their troll muscle waifu a dick...?

I need to know this for reasons
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>>52814373
The most controversial LOBAF pick didn't turn out to be waifu people were complaining about, the elf milf, a cat, the Blingmaker character or even fucking DHB.

It was a tier 5 character people called a sure-in during the whole app period. Yeah /pfg/ is filled with munchkins. No matter what people say about lewd shit or anime OPs, mechanical sperg is always the biggest shitposting. It's just rarer because real content is months inbetween.
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>>52814382
They don't have to encourage you. It's as simple as picking something else, just because you want to. It doesn't have to be about acquiring the largest numbers.
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>>52814410
>Overlewd is full of motherfucking manlets
Romulus is big enough as is. Any more, and I might as well convert him to a half-giant.
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>>52814425
Filter out the martials so we only have casters and healers on the list
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>>52814458
I like watching futa's fuck girls, so I would give a troll woman a dick but the one I personally fuck would not have one.
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>>52814473
THICKER
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>>52814296
I'll tease your bum with my tongue!
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>>52814032
Was this the true goal of the Discord Cabal?

The Thiccening?
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>>52814445
The world ended up considerably less harsh after 2hu did a quick tour of the world and nonlethally knocked out or mind controlled everyone problematic, depending on the situation.

By the time the campaign ended they were mostly planning railroads to help out the impoverished catfolk. (Who were now in economic danger because their economy had practically been based on being a neutral trading zone during the Fox and Dog empire's war.)
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>>52814410
It's full of mostly reasonably sized men, and completely ridiculous women.
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>>52814373
>the same thread that harbors people who unironically love Fighter, Kineticist, and Swashbuckler
>also harbors a shitposter who adores garbage archetypes because he likes the flavor
>"munchkins"

if your definition is so broad as to be meaningless, then I guess so
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>>52814410
I might actually make Cijiska shorter in light of this. It's going to be weird if she gets in and she can't make eye contact with any potential husbandos.

Because they're all chest-high.
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>>52813671
>English 'localization' butchering of the original character
TREEHOUSE GO DIE IN A FIRE
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>>52814138
>All that can only be described as Anime

Wow, what a faggot.
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>>52814482
Its hard to know anon

Its hard to know
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>>52814425

Umbranae to make that milkshake EXTRA THICC
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>>52814410
>Ecaterina on both the Tall and Short lists
So she can do both ways of sizeplay with the same man? That's not fair
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>>52814515
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>>52814501

Effie's biceps are too powerful for Elfi's old lines!
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>>52814485
I don't know how to respond. It's great that he's fixing a situation, but the mind control...

As long as you had fun, it's fine.
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>>52814515
Umbranae is a caster and has a history of getting bullied!
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>>52814548
She's pushing the margin for being Large right now so I don't think she has to worry about that anymore.
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>>52814438

People did not take issue with the vigilante having social talents and vigilante talents.

>Part of the nice thing about some of the stronger talent is that you don't need to optimize nearly as much to be effective.
On the other hand, if you do optimize, it becomes something akin to Path of War 1, only with much lighter numbers. (Well, except for the Alchemy acid bombers and the Large double hackbut Snipers. Those approach the likes of steel flurry strike.)

>>52814463

Why should the noncombat utility options be less appealing than the "and now your greataxe from Axe Training deals 3d6 base damage" and "and now you have a permanent +5 feet of reach on top of the Lancer dedication" talents?
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>>52814501
Okay, this is subjective, but to me the Japanese version seemed...disappointing.

It's just your typical "Oh how shameful and embarrassing I am, I have to actually fight and be strong--but I just want to be a weak woman for you, protagonist-kun~"

The American version is one-note and kind of silly, but she's got personality, and I've got a weakness for jock girls.
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>Player Contact Information: I do actually wish I could play, but I can't. Here's a more serious app anyways.
???
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>>52814548

>tfw you will never get squished between Umbranae and 4916

Why even live
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>>52814556
>12 strength

Ehhh...
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>>52814410
>Olivia (31.62 kg / m)
Huh, I didn't expect her to be so small.
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>>52814410
A lot of /pfg/ guys are herbivores, so they identify with the squishy manlet
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>>52814567
Wow.
If shota black knight lieutenant turns out to be a thing, he's going to be smothered inside of a single session.
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>>52814565
Character building is 90% of the fun in Pathfinder.
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>>52814485
>The world ended up considerably less harsh after 2hu did a quick tour of the world and nonlethally knocked out or mind controlled everyone problematic, depending on the situation.
I want 2hu to die. And be banned from the Discord.
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>>52814533
NO. I HAD ENOUGH WITH THE TRASH TIER CHARACTER OF SUE (STRONG? -1 STRENGTH, HAH!)
DON'T THINK HER FANBASE WAS EVER RELEVANT, BUT CLEARLY TREEHOUSE HAS ALWAYS PROVEN TO HAVE UTTER SHIT TASTE.
AND DON'T GET ME FUCKING STARTED ON THE BUTCHERED LINES, FE:IF'S WRITING WAS BAD ENOUGH AS IT WAS, NO NEED TO FUCK UP THE SUPPORTS TOO

>>52814561
IF I WANT TO PLAY A JAPANESE-BASED GAME, I WANT THOSE TROPES. THAT'S THE SAME REASON NOT AIMING FOR MAXIMUM LITERAL WITHOUT BREAKING GRAMMAR IS A SHIT METHOD OF TRANSLATING LIGHT NOVELS. I WANT THE ORIGINAL THING, NOT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE THINKS IT WOULD FIT BETTER THE WESTERN AUDIENCES.
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>>52814589
Complaining about Paizo is 90% of the fun of pathfinder.
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>>52814582
Is DHB a herbivore?
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>>52814556
Being bullyable is more of a mental state anon
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>>52814565
Its Broodie, they've said before they enjoy character building.
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>>52814590
Shut the heck up
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>>52814594
Preach it brother.
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>>52814581
That just means she's light for her size, although not really, most people are in the 30-47 range. There's really only a few outliers on each side.
She's not that smol.
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>>52814613
I like smol so it's okay.
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>>52814567

>Umbranae/4916 symmetrical docking

I want to stick my dick between that
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>>52814622
just saying
Although I guess since the only people smoler than her are boys (and the two ghosts who you *can't touch this*) she's the smollest
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>>52814629
>symmetrical docking
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>>52814410
>medians make male and female heights swap places
WHAT did they mean by this
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>>52814645
Outliers shift the averages way out.
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How's Curse of the Lazy Throne doing?
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>>52814606
basically this
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So gentlemen, in all honestly, how much salt would we be seeing if Overlewd's final party was all women?

Should I dump my stocks and get the fuck out, or can my shares in THICC be salvaged?
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>>52814668

Have you seen this thread? THICC IS ON THE RISE
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I'm a jackass, here's the new thread

>>52814686
>>52814686
>>52814686
>>52814686
>>52814686
>>52814686
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>>52814697
We were on page 6.
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>>52814674
good goyim, I mean /pfg/, buy my THCC stock and create a false demand for it. Please, sell me your shares in SMOL too.
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>>52814700
He's trying to spite animeposter

Funfact, Animeposter only posts on page 7 now

Its bizzare
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>>52814697
P A G E 6
A G E 6 P
G E 6 P A
E 6 P A G
6 P A G E
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>>52814710
Are you trying to pretend to be me?
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>>52814645
There's two really fucking short boys and a few really, ridiculously tall girls. Weights too, the two ghosts aren't enough to balance out the ridiculousness of Umbrane, Crytha, and Cisjiska.
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If combat maneuvers that moved enemies worked like bowling/pinball on collision with objects and enemies, used double Strength (to offset CMD advantage) and only provoked on MISS without Improved maneuver feats (ie they are actually usable to non-specialists), we wouldn't need PoW OR SoM to make melee fun.

Kicking an asshole into his asshole friends on a staircase (causing damage and knockdowns), or even doing the same with a box, or swinging someone you've grabbed to your other side in a quick movement that throws him and the guy who was behind you off-balance, is an action hero sequence that all martials should be able to do as the *baseline* game functionality.
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Since nobody demanded it (because nobody demands Brawlers), I reworked the Brawler, in an attempt to give it some sort of class identity.

The Ungovernable Brawler is based on getting combat maneuvers off and general tactical debuffing, with a side order of Dungeoncrasher Fighter, counter punching and magic defense. The aim is to be able to consistently deny actions and have some generally more interesting options than full attacking.

Without further ado: the Ungovernable Brawler
https://docs.google.com/document/d/134WSZWE6c125qWnXkeL-A0jjahnd4-km56Zrs5tFTlo/edit?usp=sharing
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>>52814719
Nonsense, I'm just trying to be /pfg/'s greatest ally.
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>>52814668
Oh, salt? A tidal wave of it, no question. Enough to bury the continental U.S.
There's always butthurt when people don't get chosen. There's always anguish when a GM picks the "wrong" party.

But they'd be crawling back for the greentexts anyway, if only to rage and threaten suicide over their waifus getting hooked up with someone who isn't them. Because they need that fap material.
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>>52814796

People usually just seem to say the best apps get chosen
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>>52814818
Sure, if your game didn't get much hype.
LoBaF squeaked by, WWW had some people lamenting that they'd never bang the Doll, but discussion of RotJR STILL has people freaking out over Onryou and Valeriya, and PLD was nothing *but* people freaking out over rape scenes, even before there were any.

Discussion of Overlewd is going to get ugly.
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>>52814357
The point the autist is trying to make is that there should not be that choice to make.

Social shit, skill shit and combat shit should be in separate pools so a character can get a fair amount of all three, instead of having to choose between killy/skilly/talky.

One of the kernels of truth at wizards being bullshit silver bullets is an optimized one doesn't have to choose or even try to excel. Want to be talky? Charm spells. Skilly? You have Int as a main stat and spells that are better than mortal skills. Killy? Save, meet die.

The problem a lot of designers have is they focus on making martials more killy above all else. In this particular case, you're spending skilly stuff for killy stuff.
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>>52814857
Speaking of good parties, is WotR still running or did that die already?
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>>52814857

I missed RotJR entirely, I think we can blame that one for being up way too long though, and it was the first, people are more inured to rejection now.
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>>52814961
Still running, but bi-weekly due to reasons of scheduling conflicts. GM's a trooper, though.

Sessions usually handle fighting, now, while off-weeks are basically all roleplaying for whoever wants to show up.
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>>52813960
2hu, you really fucking need to provide simply optimized 1pp or PoW benchmark damage or something as a comparison. If we don't know which parts are the important ones in the build, we can't actually give advice on what's broken and where.

Vomiting playtest material builds with no comparison point just makes you look like you're showing off the dumb shit you can do.
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>>52814697
Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
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