Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

ORKS AND NIDS ARE FUCKING SHIT

BULLY THESE FUCKERS
BULLY THEM HARD

>>52732978
First for da Orkz!

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>>52732996
>I2

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Help, I'm thinking about starting an SM army, but i don't know if Black Templars or Dark Angels.

I'm not that interested in competitive, I just want to make them a bit fluffy and play games in the store

>>52733008
Honestly it's what I was hoping would happen.

>>52733013
What do you like about each one?

Now put that fucking nob

into the naut

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Anons, what is your stance on conversion/proxies that are out-of-scale with the actual model they're emulating ?

I'm working on a fun keeper of secrets conversion, but i'm realising that it's gonna be way bigger than the real model. Would you be okay playing against that, or should i just use it as that one named Keeper ?

>>52733035
Bigger is ok, huge is an issue.

>>52733035
How much bigger are we talking here like Knight Titan sized? or still fits on a base roughly the same size?

>>52733035
How much bigger are we talking? I mean, it might be balanced out by it not getting cover from being fuckhueg.
But otherwise, if it looks cool, why not? But you might have problems playing in a GW store, always ask first.

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>>52732978

>>52733035

If it's bigger by more than 5mm then I'd ask you to forfeit the game. We could still play on for funsies, but whatever happened you'd count as having lost it.

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>>52733023
Fluffwise and aesthetically (because it's about what I care making this decision)

Dark Angels: The most secretive chapter, they are tainted loyalists, they are a legion but not really, theyr middle-ages theme, theyr interrogator-chaplains, the hoodies, the plasma/excentric weaponry, I really like theyr main dark green colour, and something else I might have forgotten.

Black Templars: Kind of loyal world eaters but not quite, frenzy zealots in the name of the emprah, they do almost wathever the fuck they want, also strong middle-ages theme, also incredibly badass chaplains, crusaders gonna crusade, and as before I might have forgotten something.

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>>52733085
There's luckily only one GW store in my entire country, far from where i live, so that part won't be a problem.
>>52733072
>>52733101
For the size, the bottom of the model is based off the arachnarok model, so way bigger.

I can see from the general response that i probably won't get many games with this model.
Darn.

>>52733127
I was going to use that for my Dark Archmagos Biologis' Abeyant, with the back being converted into a command platformy thing. Wish it wasn't quite so hueg.

Personally I'd be totally fine with it, since models being BIGGER is rarely an advantage. Otherwise, may work well as that Uber-Keeper in the FW books if it was tallish.

>>52733101
>Didn't win by VP
>Didn't win by KP
>Not even a moral victory of going against scatbikes/riptide wings
>"Good game, but I won because you did some funny modelling in a modelling hobby."
How does that even work?

>>52733206
Autism, that's how.

>>52733206
>>52733239
It's fucking irony.

...Wait... did I just get double baited?

>>52733186
For heros and warlords that kind of mod is RARELY frowned on. Go for it dude(tte).

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>>52733035
Well I used this as my avatar of of Khaine.

Well over twice as tall.

>>52732978
Isn't the Shadow War an old thing brought back? It's been a while since I stayed uptodate on 40k.

>>52733102
Dark angels are probably easier to collect since Black Templars require an upgrade kit.

>>52733311
With a good painting can actually look well

>>52733035
So long as you put a lot of effort into making the proxy sure. That means no cardboard bullshit, no plain alternative models and you need to show some skills.

For instance if you make a proxy I need to see 2 or more of these things good painting with 3 or more colors, detailed plastic card work, greenstuff, alterations to GW parts, alternative model parts, creativity in basing, clear idea or theme, magnets, etc.


Show effort and I will let you play with whatever you make.

>>52733329
Yeah, sold the army in the meantime, of course noon want to buy a Avatar, much less a custom one at twice the price.

So now he stands vigil on the shelf of solitude along my howling banshees.

>>52733127
Oh hell that sounds cool. totally play against it. Not like the stat line changes and you obviously aren't modeling for some kind of advantage. Bring it on.

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>>52733288
Why thank you. I guess he has the statline for it, T6 W4 IWND 2+/3++ S8 AP2 Armourbane monster with 3 AP2 shots and a flamer, plus he gives every vehicle I have IWND and throws out 4 moving Interceptor bubbles for my artillery.

Not bad, even if he is a 355pt no EW Warlord. I just can't resist giving him all the toys ever.

Planning to have his tentacle-body magnetize into either the spider for Abeyant or a Cawl body if someone objects to the size of the former or I want to use him as my Cawl.
Ordinarily him on Abeyant comes to about a Knight's waist, so it should be good for height.

Hiya anons

Just looking to get back into the hobby now I've finally got some disposable income and an understanding fiancée

All I wanted to ask Is what are the more active 40k forums out there? I remember dakkadakka and BoLS from way back, are they still the places to go? Specifically looking for WIP threads, conversion threads, army progression threads for inspiration

Cheers

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Daemon Primarch Perturabo:
>WS7 BS10 S9 T7 W9 I5 A5 Ld10 Sv2+
>MC
>Standard Primarch rules
>Slow and Purposeful
>Can take a titan weapon along with forgebreaker
>FnP
>All vehicles, Obliterators and Mutilators have +2 strength and AP within 24" of him
>800pts

Not experienced at statblocking but wanted to give it a go. How does it look? Any other ideas?

>>52733325
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that

Thanks!

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>>52733425
>How does it look?

How do you use transfer sheets? Like those fake tattoos as a kid, stick it on, dot it with water and it transfers or something else?

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Tfw even with paint guides i still fuck up

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>>52733452
th-thanks...

>>52733457
Cut out the appropriate part, soak in lukewarm water, the upper layer can be moved onto a surface to which it adheres when dry.

If you mix vinegar in the soaking water it conforms better to the surface.

>>52732978
i sometimes see people have big black sticks instead of the huge plastic flyer bases

where do they get these? what are they called

>>52733462
What's the problem?

Only issue s i see are the missing paint on leg studs and the eyes offering no appreciable contrast.

>>52730078
Cawl and a war convo? Play this guy and see how it goes, but you may well be bringing that stormsurge next time. A fucking rending riptide wing does like 1.5 unsaved wounds against Cawl a turn, and he regenerates d3 per turn.

30k > Age of Sigmar > pile of shit > 40k >>>>>>>>>> Fantasy

>>52733531
Is this a new spin on the "if you can't kill it in one turn who bother?" Tau meme?

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>>52733539

>>52733539
>on a scale from most shit to least shit

>>52733457
I put some water on the pallet and place the transfer in it.

Coat the area you're going to place the transfer in some 'ard coat. Let that dry.

Using a small brush, place the transfer onto said area. Use a knife of some sort to cut part of the transfer it doesn't lie flat.

After the transfer has dried onto the surface, coat it in 'ard coat again, this will seal the transfer in.

Once that has dried, coat it in Lahmian Medium.

And that'll dull the shine that 'ard coat leaves, and protect the transfer from chipping.

>>52733589
>>>>most shit to least shit
>what the imperial guard player believes after his fantasy counterpart gets cucked by fantasy space marines

>>52733609
Can't face facts?

>>52733539
i can't belive they axed fantasy. that game was such a huge part of my childhood...

if i ever get rich im buying gw and personally firing anyone involved in that decision

>>52733597
>>52733497

Cheers buddy.

>>52733645
yours aren't facts

this is fact:>>52733539

>>52732995
Play 5th edition with me fucker
SEE WHAT HAPPENS

All the table top lore makes sense when you remember, the imperial guard is the baseline with top of the line equipment.

>>52733544
No, it's "the most busted Tau formation statistically cannot kill this HQ at all."

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>>52733565
and yet he gets 3 (you)s in the space of a minute

why bring your A-Game if your F-Game will do?

Just looking for some feedback on my Herald of Ruin 250pt Space Marine Kill Team list.

Chapter Tactics is Carcharadon Astra

Leader
- Company Champion
- Power Sword
- Storm Shield
- Oath of the Tireless Crusader (Crusader Special Rule)
- Bionics (FnP 6+)

Special
- 3 Sternguard Veterans

Core
- 6 Tactical Marines (w/ extra CCW)
- 1 Tactical Marine (Plasma Gun + extra CCW)

Total = 246

>>52733515
For some reason the drakenhough nightshade leaves deep dull fog effects on this ghost tint paint. Also the leg studs are suppoed to he unpainted if were going by world eater examples. Also the eyes HAVE been fucking with me, white sucks

How do people in this thread feel about Shadow Wars?

Are ye all still stuck to Heralds of Ruin/Normal Kill Team?

>>52733657
>this is fact

Think you mean "fake news."

>>52733738
Well it looks like you just painted the wash over the armour, you're supposed to do a pinwash over shiny shit.

Also green won't contrast blue properly, go red or yellow for eyes.

>>52733779

HHG back again, damn that thread is patchy.

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>>52733714
Wait i've got one for this situation too.

>>52733206
Well, obviously such a model won't be tournament legal.

If you're just playing for fun then it shouldn't matter.

>still no new abaddon model
Its been almost 20 years

>>52733862
You'd think after all the arm memes he'd have gotten one by now.

>>52733758
See this is where i have a problem, everytime I pinwash it contrasts so hard it looks goofy

>>52733745
Most who care post about it in the separate thread at it has 98% less shitposting.

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So what do you guys think of this list for a relatively casual game?

>>52733875
It is a harsh difference yeah, can't really give you any hints though, maybe ask in WIP.

>>52733745
Fun little game especially if you like narrative stuff.

>>52733895
You have more grav guns than units.

Also, can Tacmarines double down on special weapons?
Though it was 1 Special and 1 Heavy.

>>52733745
I love the idea, sadly all factions suffer from literally being "whatever we have in plastic".

>>52733930
Oh yeah youre right :D gonna fix that

So, are there any useful formations for Dreadnoughts, without being bound to specific chapters? Currently building one, and it's quite fun. But I want to field him too someday and be actually useful.

>>52733035
Seeing new bloodthirster and lord of change are way bigger than old junky model, you can safely assume new KoS will be bigger too. As long as your conversion is not bigger than lord of change, you should have little problems.

>>52733952
Yeah I hope they expand the options a little bit in time. That or I guess we can try and make our own rules...

>>52734210
For starters Eldar need Rangers, Nids need gaunts. (and orks need Burnas)

Those are probably the bigges issues i see.
Mutation skills for CSM and subgroups for the second wave factions.

>>52732978
Is the kid on the chair Bizarro?

>>52733008
Initiative no longer relevant. Like your post.

>>52734109
chaos space marines can field some (you have to proxy it as a helbrute) but the funny one is where a buch of cultists worship the dread giving the dread a 3+Look out sir, because a cultist throws himself into the line of fire.

>>52733101
Cunt detected

>>52733862

Soon, hopefully, fellow Black Legionnaire.

>>52734297
>because a cultist throws himself into the line of fire.

I always imagined it at him climing onto the dread like some demented warboy or being picked up by the dread and used as shield/projectile weapon

>>52733206
Tourneyfags killing the game that's how

>>52734326
>Dread sees some heavy weaponry aiming at him
>"I'm gonna need me a shield"
>grabs cultist
>hilarity ensues

>>52734297
But anon, I don't want to play Chaos. Marine killers, yes, but not the Chaos ones.

>>52734369
>spess furries

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>>52733822
>exactly 3 fish on the hook
THE PROPHECY

>>52733101
i've never heard a more waacfag line before in my life.

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>>52734292
>still getting butthurt at Ork memes
>in the current year
We've got some time before 8th drops, initiative still matters at this present time.

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>>52734444
>"Make way, I have Lamenters to kill"


>inb4 t-teamkillers!!!1!!!1!!!!!1!111!!!!

>>52733323
Its basically an update version of Necromunda.

>>52734530
Grognards BTFO

>>52734109
Could always use a demi-company

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>>52734615

Tyberos the Red Wake vs Asterion Moloch is one fight I really want to see in fluff.

>>52734718
I can see this not ending well for Tyberos.
Aren't the Carcharodons known to have not the best armory, more scavenged bits and pieces because nobody really wants to get close to them? Not that Tyberos isn't a beast in combat, but their gear would probably make all the difference
Meanwhile, the Minotaurs are exceptionally well armed, and Moloc is no exception to that. Also, probably a bit more level-headed in a fight.

There's also this Mathhammer on 1d4, take it with a grain of salt, but according to this, Tyberos puts up one hell of a fight, but ultimately loses
Asterion Moloc VS Tyberos The Red Wake

Tyberos attacks 5 times, hitting 2.917 times, wounding 2.836 times, causing 0.945 wounds after saves.
Asterion Moloc attacks 4 times, hits 2.333 times, wounds 2.268 times, causing 1.512 wounds after saves.
Asterion Moloc wins.
A combat monster, Tyberos can certainly dish out the hurt, he just can't take it as he's stuck with only a 5+ invuln.

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Do you have any pregame rituals, /40kg/? I do, it's a bit autistic but for the past 3 years, directly before I play, I chug one of these shitty euroshopper energy drinks. It started because 3 years ago I was visiting my friend while he was at Uni and we went to the lgs, i'd picked one of these up on the way there because it was hot and I was thirsty, got to the store and it wouldn't let anyone bring food or drink inside. Being indisposed, I drank it quickly, went inside then thrashed his IG with my Iron warriors handily and picked up all three objectives. I tried it again next week and won again, though not as explicitly as the first time, and though it hasn't happened since, that game still sticks with me, so I keep doing it. How about you?

>>52735039
>35p energy drinks

>>52735136
I feel like this will give you kidney stones the instant it touches your lips.

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>>52735039
Of course, anon.

>>52735039
You haven't won in 3 years? Jesus christ

>>52735039
I need my slippers to play properly, I can borrow dice and memorise rulebooks but I'll be damned If i can win a game in socks or shoes.

>>52735166
It's not that I haven't won in three years, I just haven't won every time, nor as well as the first time.

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>>52735136
>>52735141
Too fucking right. It's swill, but it's cheap and i'm poor, so it does.

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>What are Guardsmen?

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This is the list I'm working on. Current meta is Tau, Tau, Tau. Think she'll do against the space commies?

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What do people think of this?

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Asked in the last thread but didn't get a real response, trying again.

Can someone give me some ideas for what to add to my Thousand Sons? I was thinking a Daemons detachment, but that's not absolutely set in stone. Here's what I've got so far:

Magnus
x3 Exalted Sorc, ML 3, discs
x2 Rubric Marines, soulreaper cannons, rhinos
x2 Terminators, soulreaper cannons, hellfyre missiles, 1 land raider (other squad will deep strike)
Heldrake

So that comes up to 2670 points and I'm looking to take it up to 3000. Should I take the Heralds Anarchic formation for 7 extra Heralds and get an extra WC for every one of them?
Or should I just throw in a bunch of Screamers?

Thoughts?

>>52735335
Executioner should at have las and plas sponsons.

Vanquisher should swap it's heavy bolter for a lascannon.

You don't need so many servo arms, only the tech priest needs to give up his shooting I think.

>>52735362
looks good to me mate

>>52735362
You can't use CAD for Skitarii. You need to put him in a Dominus Maniple.

>>52735395
Well to make my list legal don't i need to have a HQ and 2 troops? Is there anyway to do this without losing out on the elimination maniple?

>>52735377
soooo where do you recommend I prune to get the points to do all that?

why aren't skitarii and cult mechanicus a single codex?

>>52735407
You can do TPD, 10 vanguard, and the dunecrawler as a dominus maniple.

>>52735428
Because $$$. Maybe they'll get combined in 8th edition like khorne demonkin.

>>52735407
Dominus is not a Skitarii HQ. He's an AdM HQ but you can use him in a Skitarii Dominus Maniple.

So if you take the Dominus Maniple as 1 unit of 10 vanguard, Dominus and 1 Onager it's legal. Skip the CAD totally.

>>52735340
>mixing power weapons and plasma weapons
"how to waste twice as many points when your gun backfires"
Drop one or the other use those 30 points on something else.

>305 point landraider
Does it need all that extra gear? you could save points here, it can only fire two weapons on the move anyway.

>>52735435
Does that work? I thought to make the list legal the vanguards would have to be split into 2 squads

>>52735449
Good call on plasma and power sword. I kitted up the LR to hit 1850

>>52735443
Ah i understand thanks for the help

>>52735453
No dude. it's not a CAD. it's a special formation called a Dominus Maniple that comes in the SC! box.

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>>52735475
I know about the formation, I just didnt know that would make it legal since i though the vanguards had to be in split into 2 squads of 5

So this looks better?

>>52735449
Any other tips? The three las predator has served me well against giant mecha commies but I'm all ears if you have some good ideas

>>52735424
Uhh... Knocking a sentinel off is 50 points, 30 points to buy back that plasma cannon and another one with 20 points left over.

You can then slice off 1 or 2 servitors at 10 points each, they're not going to survive being focused down anyway so you should keep them out of LoS or in ruins at all times.

>>52735501
Looks good to me. You'll probably be really, really good in 1k pts games, but it's not waac or dirty.

>>52735340
Tac squads will only make it across the board if they don't know target priority. Land Raider won't die quickly unless they're packing stormsurges or obscene amounts of melta, the latter disadvantages them in other ways. If you can hide the bikes until markerlights are dead they'll do well. If you keep those predators facing forward they might do well.

>>52735501
That's legal.

CAD needs 2 troops, DM only needs 1.

>>52735525
Hmm, drop pods for tacts?

>>52735508
>>52735465
The preds seems inefficient but killshot + 9 lascannons may be just what you need to blast a riptide so I dunno.

Maybe try to cut enough points to buy a barebones scout squad to hold obectives and harass markerlights?
Snipers can sit on objectives while pinging wounds off monsters.

>>52734932
From the book and shorts on the Carcharadons, they don't play fair. their paaaaatient then utterly unstoppable.

> jumping lone ships in asteroid belts.
> using the equivalent of Fire ships ( Skeleton crewed ships, that goes all speed, all shields right up to your shop then the navigator at gunpoint puls it into the warp)
> collapsing whole tunnels on their own guys to redirect foes to ambushes
> and by ambush I mean hiding 20 melee terminators in the walls, and literally bursting through them like sharks and dismembering 2 full squads of night lord raptors

It'd be a close war.

The minotaurs would deploy as a whole group and slowly get picked off one by one till they both ran out of tricks and just generally destroyed each other.

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>>52735039
I eat a massive meal to prepare for my exhausting turns and getting my fingers stabbed to shit

>>52735548
Yeah, I've cooked a riptide with them before very quickly. Sniper scouts sound like a great idea.

>>52735524
>>52735527
Thanks. Those Destroyers are supposed to have grav as well btw forgot to upgrade to that since its free.

>>52735525
I dunno, the typical tau armies I play would focus down the bikes with their markerligths and big guns.
Most of them have loads of huge guns but no cheap squads of small arms to take care of trash units.

>>52733035

As long as you're not trying to cheat (doesn't sound like it) and it's not obscenely huge I say go for it.

>>52735428
They wanted to sell Skitarii as a new army I suppose. Ultimately it's just annoying because you can't even take a tech-priest without jumping through formations, detachments or maniples.

>>52735518
Can't lose the sentinel the formation requires that they be full squadrons
Could scrap a servitor or two, but the whole point of having them is to auto pass repair rolls and to cover the tanks collective rear

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I need constructive criticism and improvements for this list.

>>52735574
Yeah, when I take my Eldar out they fuck the Tau so hard it's embarrassing. I don't feel guilt I went through 4 shit Codex to get that sweet cheddar

>>52735606
I've used damn near the same list. Instead of multimelta attack bike I used another heavy bolter. I did fine against Chaos, and Necrons though the latter was a close one. Tau? Depends on if the build a mecha deathstar or not. Against Eldar I got smoked hard. Against dark Eldar I damn near lost the whole death wing but won on victory points.

>>52735540
Drop melta is totally a viable way to handle broadsides if those are common. I've countered that by killing their melta guy with interceptor on the broadside, and then charged them. Without a power fist on them, I was able to tie them up.
So watch out for that.
>>52735574
Hence hiding them. Darkshroud with bikes is a bitch without markerlights, of course smart missiles can take out the darkshroud though.
I always have cheap squads of fire warriors though.
>>52735611
My last game was against Ynnari. All jetbikes with banshee masks, and reavers. They fucked me up. Granted it was supposed yo be a "casual" game, and I brought two squads of kroot, and breachers in a dfish. Only lost by 1 thanks to maelstrom objectives even though I almost got tabled.

>>52735606
In other words, I like it. But I tend to go towards fluff instead of Waac. Someone else might have better criticism than I do.

>>52735652
>>52735693
This is meant to be a fluffy, for fun list. I don't intend to do any tourneys with this, I just want a fun army list that can give me a decent turnout in games.

>>52735039

Not a pre-game ritual, but I think positively about the game and my units.
I believe that shitty unit has a chance to beat a unit double its cost. Most of the time it goes as expected, but when my units beat the odds and come out on top I cheer for them and give them titles/names to commemorate them.

>>52735691
Yeah, I am thinking it's time to finally paint those damn drop pods

>>52735709
Then you've nailed it. That's how DA would roll. It should serve you well just watch the Ynnari Eldar. That monster is a fucking beast.

>>52733462
is this your first time painting?
even if not youre doing a great job, just continue to practice and youll make great minis

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Any thoughts on this? I wanted to make some kind of armoured Tau list, avoiding suits as much as possible...but my stealth suits also rarely get any love. Taking Shadowsun as a nameless XV22 is not decided yet; depends on if I really wanna buy resin. The drones aren't in it right now, no clue why they appear.

I wish the Stormsurge was a superheavy skimmer tank; I'd draw the image I have for it in my head if I could to a suitable level.

>>52735039
Something I like to do is sketch out a rough b battle plan for how I want to advance or position units before I play. Pretty simple game plans overall, but I tend to find they help me focus on objectives and not overextend

>>52735754
Time to get painting and order those Ravenwing then.

>tfw Belial and my final Deathwing squad is still in the mail

>>52735778
Got the ravenwing just need to paint the pods.

>>52735768
Seems alright, although I'm not sure the Razorsharks do much for you. More tanks might be better overall.

I feel the same way. I would do a conversion for it, but it really wouldn't fit into my army at the moment

>>52735768
I love this list, solid mobile infantry type of force. But, you're going to die.

>>52735768
I like it well enough. Not super competitive. A new!Barracuda or two might be a might choice than the razorsharks since you're taking a cad anyway. firestream wingggg

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>>52735768
Wait...the online listbuilder has produced a different, earlier list to the one I've written?

>>52735792
I have a Dreadnought and a Drop Pod I need to get painted for 1000 point games. Just thinking about painting that DP makes me shudder.

>>52733539

Jesus, even as bait that's a shitty and nonsensical ranking.

>>52735813
That's 5 fast attack slots...

>>52735691
>I always have cheap squads of fire warriors though.
Good for you, most Tau armies I see have nothing but crisis suits and drones.

>>52735829
...Shit, of course it is. I've gotten too used to "Eh, its a formation just shove it in."

>>52735818
You and I both brother. And I'm working on a Frostgrave army this week.

>>52733101
For the Bait Gods

Has anyone actually used the Butcherhorde effectively?

>>52735871
Doesn't that GrimResolve guy on YouTube use it?

>>52735838
1 short of a firestream wing though

>>52735871
That's the world eaters decurion right?
I've had some great successes against Gladius marines and bike heavy deldar, 4 squads of 15 marines and a min raptor talon is pretty brutal if any of other makes it to combat

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>>52735812
How about this one? I'm not aiming for competition, I prefer a casual game. I could drop a razorshark and take another pathfinder team, I just thought the image of the big ship flanked by two escorts could look cool

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>>52733425

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>>52732978

I hate my friends and I want to make them hate me too, so I have a bunch of Imperial Knights I'm gonna make an army out of.
I know there's the Imperial Knight codex put out by GW but I was wondering if there's a ForgeWorld book too, and what kinds of Knights I should take in my formations?

I have 2 of the GW Knights with all the weapon options magnetized so I can make pretty much anything out of them. I've also got a FW Lancer, Atrapos, Porphyrion, and an Acheron. The games we play are usually 2k-3k points so I've got flexibility, and if I need to I can pick up another few knights without any trouble.

What do you guys think? My group has the following players: Space Wolves, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Tau, Eldar, and Necrons. There's also an Ork player but he hasn't been around in quite a while but I am gonna be going up against a decent variety of armies and they've all got super heavies of their own.

>>52736008
>I hate my friends and I want to make them hate me too, so I have a bunch of Imperial Knights I'm gonna make an army out of.
So I take it from this sentence that you consider your wallet one of your friends?

>>52736039

Barely puts a dent in it honestly, lost my legs to a drunk driver a few years ago so my desk job pays the bills while lawsuit money funds my hobbies.

>>52736120
I can't decide if I envy your free gibs or I pity your cripple status.

>>52736120
pics or it didnt happen

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>>52736008
There's no 40k FW Knight book, but there is the Horus Heresy Questoris Knight Crusade book, which is a much more developed version of the GW book. You have HQ Knights, Troop Knights, FA and HS Knights and Titan Lords of War. Ask your group if they're OK with that, otherwise just rock the assorted Knight formations.

The way it works is you pick a Knight (which can have the GW carapace weapons if applicable, so you don't lose options) and can pay points to give them a Rank, which grants stuff like Fleet + Hit and Run, but cuts your armour (Fast Attack) or an Interceptor bubble. That also assigns them to a slot.
The Knight you make your HQ can buy +1 BS/WS and +1 to it's invuln, which makes an Atrapos amazing.
You can also take the opposite effect on a Troop Knight for reducing it's cost by 35pts, so if you need a few more points to fit another knight in you can take a scrub Knight to cut costs, like the SW:A New Recruits.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Questoris_Knight_Crusade_(30k)

Building my first Knight at the moment, going to be House Malinax to go with my Mechanicum. Thinking about naming it the "Dominus Acies", which is either "Master of the Battlefield" or "Lord of the Edge", since bone and black with scorpion emblems is probably worthy of the second one.

>>52736001
Any advice? Someone did one for mortarion a few threads back and it was fun to talk about, I just wanted to try the same thing. I might have overpowered the stats a bit though.

>>52736120
If you can go toilet on your own then i'm a little bit jelly.

Was playing a video game and there was some douchebag trying to convince everyone that sanguinius was the best primarch. FYI the game was ESO and not warhammer related

>>52736008
Is it just me, or do imperial knights look worse the more there are of them? A single imperial knight, preferrably viewed from below to empathise size, is a moving fortress, towering above the battlefield. Two can look alright if coloured and equipped in complementary ways, but as soon as there are groups of them, they start to look really silly and toy-ish to me.

>>52735955
My main concern here would be the criminally low number of markerlightss. Rule of thumb is a unit which can output two ML average per turn for every two damage units you have. If I'm not mistaken, you have a single ML unit.

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>>52736299

>>52736299
he was probably the primarch that was the most... good. but nah, clearly not the best. horus already proved that.

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Can daemons be waifus?

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>>52736331
but of course. Anon, there's a whole wonderful world of waifus out there. Don't limit yourself.

>>52736299
He was, even fucking Horus said so.

He just had a complete lack of ambition, to such a degree that he was essentially the world greatest sockpuppet.

>>52736331
Only Slannesh demons

>>52736374
desu, if I were him I wouldn't imagine there was much ambition to have. Conquer the galaxy for humanity, then what? Life continues to suck, even if all the physical threats are dead, people will still starve, humanity will still kill each other. Basic goodness has it rough in 40k.

>>52736310
Yeah, I bumped the stealth suits and FW teams to Shas'ui so they could take markerlights/TLs too but it is an awfully low number. Part of the reason I used the Air Superiority Cadre in the first rendition was for the bonus markerlights.

>>52733745

Not a fan of how rigid the troop selection is. I understand why it's like that, but the only faction who's chosen units I actually like is...Uhh... Tyranids, really.

>>52736374
Thats why he barely cracked Horus' armor before getting murderfucked

>>52736374
Not that guy, but seriously what made him so great? We don't hear anything about him other than that he supposedly is very pretty and very noble (and prone to blood rages).

Now Guilliman I can understand, he was a master tactician and hands down the best bureaucrat. Lion also, his legion was extremely efficient and his conquests were second only to Horus.

But what made Sanguinius best?

>>52736460
He was the prettiest.

the worst part about buying from ebay is how it takes damn near forever to get anything.

>>52736460
IIRC:
Raw talent, he was third best primarch at... pretty much everything that didn't require a lifetime of knowledge.

Natural tactician, natural swordman, natural everything, plus the upper body strength it took for a 12 foot man to fly in power armour.

>>52736302
Welcome to the reason I hate Apocalypse.

>>52733102
Dark Angels player here, join us for a free hoodie and plasma gun

>>52736405
The 'uis help, but can't do the job solo. I might see if you can trim a bit to fit in another PF team.

>>52736331
Sure, but they all come with downsides.

Slaanesh daemons sounds like fun and sexy times, until you realize fun times involve knifes coated in chlorine triflouride. Also a selfish bitch.

Nurgle demon would be happy and loving, but the amount of space AIDS would melt your dick off before you even got to stroke her hair on your first date.

Khorne waifus would be the worst part of an abusive relationship mixed with having to impress her all the time, or she'll jump on some other niggers dick cause he had the balls to go wrestling with the tiger in the zoo.

Tzeentch would be a messhead, cheating and scheming bitch. Unfaithfull and you never know where you're at in the relationship. You'll be found curled up into ball, going insane from uncertainty.

I forget if undivided daemons are still a thing..

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>>52736653
>Khorne waifus
Pic somewhat related

>>52736653
Undivided daemons are basically just barely sentient animals that aren't powerful enough to warrant the notice of the big four, may as well fuck a dog.

>>52736653
But daemons are genderless. Female cultists/renegades maybe?

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>>52736719
>may as well fuck a dog.

>>52736719
> just barely sentient animals that aren't powerful
>may as well fuck a dog.
Considering where we are, more than a few anons here would probably jump at that chance

>waifus are just for sex
This is why you faggots never get laid.

>>52736735
Principles would still apply.

Cultists are human, do you waifu 3d women ?

>>52736735
Not necessarily. If gods can have gender, why not daemons.

>>52735340
>3 preds all die to a single deepstriking Sunforge squad
>such a heavy investment in bikers when Tau have such easy ignores cover ap 2
Eh

>>52736772
>daemons aren't 3D
My only waifu is eternal war. BFTBG

>>52736784
Because they don't have genitals.

>>52736653
The only time Daemon waifus would work out is if you're enough of a champ to take control of the relationship. Strong enough to out-muscle anyone who tries to steal your Khorne waifu, smart enough to see all the Tzeentch waifu's plans and counteract them, or being kinky enough that you get the Slaanesh waifu in bondage so she doesn't bust out knives

>>52736870
unless you're superhuman, none of those are happening.

>>52736893
>implying dick isn't the hardest metal in all realities

>>52736870
Guess we know what Kaldor Draigo gets up to these days

>>52736829
They can have them if their god wants them to have them.

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Thoughts on this list? Is there any way to viably run a Lord/Sorc outside a bike blob?

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>>52736906
this

>>52736766
>implying people with waifus get laid

>>52736943
Which they won't except for Slaneesh daemons.

>>52736829
Slaanesh probably disagrees.

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>>52736923
this?

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Yes or no?

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>>52737053

>1510 points

>>52736653
>she'll jump on some other niggers dick cause he had the balls to go wrestling with the tiger in the zoo.
tame. guardsmen fix bayonets and charge orks all the time, the power levels in 40k are MASSIVE. to impress a khorne daemon you'd have to do something like tear the head off a fenrisian kraken using only the bones of your hand with the flesh stripped off of them, and the other hand tied behind your back.

>>52735335
Seems fun. I love Emperor's Talon. Boss Talon is extra cute and can be your Warlord. Anything with strong cover will do you in though.

>>52737087
Intentionally tame.
It's way past what anyone sensible here would do, but it would still not be enough to keep her impressed.

Daemon waifus are just too much for any of us puny humans to handle.

>>52736991
Yeah, only Slaneesh. And his Daemons would probably be more interested in slowly dismembering you so they can drink your screams than in having sex.

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>>52736139

I'd take my legs back any day though I don't know how I'd go back to not having the money I have. It was rough getting it though. You ever seen a lawyer who stands to make a giant payoff tear someone to shreds in court? They are truly despicable people and almost made me feel bad for the piece of shit that hit me.

>>52736174

I don't know anything about HH rules, are they compatible with 40k? Truth be told I just like putting together formations and having a lot of different options.

>>52736266

I can, but I have to use the cripple stall with the bars on the sides.

>>52736302

It's because when viewed from above they look like roof shingles. That's why I mix up the GW and FW knights. FW knights have the varying sizes and it breaks up the pattern a bit.

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Local Krieg player was a bro and gave me his extra Leman Russ sprues he got from the FW version, but there's obviously not enough parts to build whole Leman Russes out of them
What kind of terrain to make

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>>52737084
>being anal over 2 points

bet you have an eldar wraith list

>>52736978
>waifus can't be 3D
>waifus can't be actual gfs
Get on with the memes.

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>>52732978
Does GW still use 'fine'cast for its resin models or has it changed to forge world stuff? I'm just wondering about making an order and I had bad experiences with finecast

>>52737214
being such a fucking child that you cannot change your list to be under the specified limit of the game.

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>>52737254
Please stop forcing this shitty meme

>>52733127
Fucking soul grinder you dumb faggot roody poo

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>>52735369
>>52735369

anyone?

Reminder that regardless of being renegade of imperial, all xenos deserve death.

Beware the alien.

>>52737267
then stop being a faggot who cant into limits

>>52737267

...the rules are a meme?

I mean, I guess they kind of are, but literally the point of point costs is to enforce restrictions and force you to make hard choices about your composition. If you ignore that, you genuinely might as well just play AoS.

>>52733334
Yeah and it sounds like you'd be a fucking hoot to play against. I absolutely guarantee that you're the sort of smelly fag that uses an unpainted WAAC cheese list.

Anyone know if the SC! Chaos terminator lord can be assembled as a sorcerer?

>>52737375

Or, less hyperbolically, just a less shitty game than 40k.

>>52737375

Sure because there aren't points in AoS. Stop spouting stupid memes.

>>52737389
yes it is the normal terminator lord/sorcerer kit

>>52737389
Im pretty sure the Termie Lord sprue has the sorcerer bits on it.

>>52737375
the point of point costs is more to judge relative strength.

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>>52737373
>>52737375
I've never met a single person in all my years of 40k who gave a shit about being a couple points over. You two are probably literal mouthbreathing autists

>>52737406
>>52737415
Yey.

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>>52737254
>>52737373
>>52737375
who pissed in your cornflakes

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>>52737183
HH rules are entirely compatible with 30k, they tend to be a little lower power on average thanks to having 5E listbuilding, one CAD (well, the slight variant they use there, with an extra HQ and Elite and a couple other minor changes) and one allied detachment per army, and a 25% limit on the number of points LoWs can be (waived for the Knight list as they become normal force org choices) and only Troops can score, although they say that in normal 40k missions that reverts to everything scoring and troops getting ObSec in the book.

The army lists themselves are entirely compatible apart from a different allies matrix, if you want pure Knights you have to make no changes at all to fit in perfectly and if you want allies just count them as Imperial Knights.
You have more options with that list, honestly.Scouting Hit+Run Lancers are horrific, as are Acherons which can lay down the flame on the Intercept and Overwatch with it, or a Porphyrion with Tank and Monster Hunter Skyfiring it's autocannon, all led by an Atrapos with BS5 ranged D and a 3+ invuln on effective AV14/15 front.

In return, you pay more points for the Household Ranks and can't take Formations like the Royal Court or the various Lances, so you can't just dole out generic buffs everywhere for free.

>>52737248
It will say if it's finecast or not.

>>52737283
But i don't like soulgrinders

>>52737213
You have 2 choices:

Wrecked tank hulk terrain for any battlefield
or
Tank Hull under construction for manufactorum themed battlefield

The first will require plenty of rust. The second requires you to get your kitbash on, and try to realistically model the interior of the tank, with lots of wires hanging out and maybe a servitor with a welder working on it. You could use the IA books for references.

>>52737427
you have to be an autist to not comprehend simple rules. do you not color inside the lines at your therapy class either?

>>52737441
and away to reddit with you cunt

>>52736460
Sanguinius did not embody an aspect of the emperor. (Guilliman is the strategic prowess, magnus is the psychic might etc.) But was a perfect blend, and thus a lesser version of the emperor himself. Also, his fight with horus is said to have weakened horus enough to prevent him from achieving victory against the emperor.

>>52737507
you sound about as fun to play against as a broken toaster

guess you can have fun slowly ruining your local gaming club with your riptide list

>>52737610
>riptide list

Surely you mean 6 Nurgle bikes.

>>52737441
Different Anon, but it always concerns me when someone asks if we can "bump up the limit by a couple points?"

You know what they're doing: They're trying to fit another Broadside in, but they don't want to take this-and-that support system off their riptide. And sure, you could say yes and add something to your sergeants. But just remember that letting him keep a the early warning override AND take another broadside is going to be far more advantageous to him than the veteran sarge on one of your tactical squads.

>>52737610
>fuck, I'm out of arguments. Better call him a tau player!
You both are suffering from severe autism.

>>52737151
nah, they're pretty interested in sex too. just depends what mood they're in.

>>52737427
Where do you draw the line? When you have upgrades which cost single digits, why not always pad out? What's the point of agreeing on a point value if you're going to go over it?

>>52737267
>wanna play a game of 21?
>sure bro
*scores 21 points*
>games not over yet! I actually want to play to 22 because it's more fun that way stop being autistic.
>dude, it's the rules
>stop being a nofun faggot lOL

>>52736598
Sorry, just went to watch Robot Wars. I could replace Shadowsun with a generic XV8 with two fusions and NSJ and squeeze in another Pathfinder team, but then running the stealthsuit squad doesn't feel right.

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>>52737626
6 Nurgle Biker was a fluffy Eurofag that only had Black Reach Orks and was calling my list WAAC. I mean sure the DP is built competitively but I don't think there's any way CSM can be built which is WAAC.

>>52737489
Yeah but what is it if it says resin but not finecast? Is it still finecast or restic or standard resin?

>>52737628
well yeah, i agree with that

but what upgrade can you realistically buy with a 2 point overspend? a camo cloak for a single scout?

If the list was 10 or 15 points over when the dude has 5pt upgrades on his scout bikers then he's being a douche, definitely

but getting super autismo over 2 points is like going to a chess club at a primary school and making everybody who plays you play strict tournament rules

you could even put a bit of blame on the stupidly awkward points cost for bikes, whoever thought it would be a good idea to make a sm bike squad cost 63 base points should be shot

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>>52735039

>>52737740
That 2 points isn't just a 2 point upgrade or it could be removed, it could represent something that costs much more and couldn't otherwise be included, it's abuse of the meta to an unfair advantage.

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>>52737746

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How are these stats?

God-emperor of Mankind:

>WS10 BS10 S10 T10 W10001 I1 A0 Ld12 Sv2+
>Psker Level 7
>Constantly Dying: At the end of your turn, remove 40 psykers from your army as casualties. If you cannot supply 40 psykers, the emperor immediately dies.
>Starchild: If the Emperor dies, you can immediately bring him back without the Constantly Dying rule and with 10 attacks. However, he no longer wishes to bother with such petty disputes and immediately leaves for more important business.
>The Emperor knows the Vain Hope psychic power
>Vain Hope: The Emperor has no mouth, but he must scream. Roll all of your dice, if they are all 6's, you win the game.

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>>52737800

>>52737318
>>52735369
Rather than go for the one unit spam formation why not CAD or allied detachment?

It wouldn't work anyway because daemons have a special rule that disallows them from joining units with their speical rule, daemonic instability.

A Tzeentch daemon start collecting kit is really solid, HQ herald, troops pink horrors, elites flamers, fast attack screamers and heavy support chariot.
It fills out all the slots of an allied detachment perfectly.
The best relics for the herald to equip themselves with are in the warzone fenris book but they're all in the updated digital codex.

I am a relatively new imperial fists player, and I have enough models to do 1850 points worth of units but haven't painted/assembled them all yet.

I've put together a 250 point escalating list album here: http://imgur.com/a/k0xLc to show what I am slowly building up.

What do you all think of them?

Pic related is first in the list.

After 1000 the librarian is my AA with shriek, and at any point switch out the asscents for gravcents in case of cheese.

Criticism is much appreciated

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>>52737909
I could have sworn I attached the first image

>>52737737
Unless it's a forgeworld model, it's probably finecast if it says its resin.

>>52737657
[citation needed]

>>52737927
Nice 800p list.

birthday is coming up and I cant decide if I want to get more tiny plastic men (would either be tempestus scions or more Tau) or getting a 1070 to replace my 970. pls halp frands... might consider going into AoS for them new squats too

>>52737988
get a 1070

>>52737973
Why do you say 800? Did I miss something?

>have a 32mm based assault squad
>also have an old sculpt assault squad
>dont have enough 32mm bases for both
the idea of eventually mixing models with different bases in a squad is really triggering my autism

>>52737988
What are you 16?
The 1070 is probably your best choice though desu

>>52738001
He thinks he's made a funny by insinuating your list is
a 800 point list that's 198 over budget.

>>52738044
Ah.. well ok. I still don't get it lol.

I like centurions fluffwise, and I like kantor's fluff. So, if they are seen as not competitive I don't really care.

That being said, I am open to ideas.

>>52738059
It's retardeded shitposting, nothing to get.

>>52737905

Unit spam wasn't my intention, I just figured a bunch of Heralds would help with the warp charge points, especially since the formation lets them each generate an extra. 7 heralds with no upgrades would be an extra 14 WC dice per turn.
I've got plenty of Daemons though. The only Tzeentch daemons I don't have are blues and brimstones but I've got plenty of everything else.

>>52737715
I might evaluate your infantry groups. Your piranhas are going to do a similar job as your FW, and breachers are generally considered inferior to strike teams.

>>52738122
If you just wanted something powerful I think just two heralds mixed in with the new pink horrors would be best but you would need lots of blues and brimstones.

>>52733425
>Titan weapon
Magnus is probably the biggest daemon primarch and even then a warhound weapon is far too big to wield, unless Perturabo is an exocrine look alike primarch then Titan weapons are way too much of an stretch, perhaps Knight weapons would work instead

Which one is worse: An alien, a mutant, or a heretic?

>>52738200

Yeah, I was really hoping to use what I already have though which is why I was thinking of using a bunch of Screamers. Something to pop tanks with and take the heat off Magnus and the Heldrake while the rest of my dudes get into position.

>>52738253
the heretic

>>52738253
The alien. There's alot of good reasons heretics exist, like the fact that the Emperor was a huge faggot.

>>52738253
They are all heretics and will burn as such.

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>>52737956
>Slaanesh
>Dark god whose domain includes sex
Are we playing the same game here anon or are you retarded?

>>52738029
This its the idea of GW, now waste money in new 32 mm bases!

>>52738253
always the heretic. mutant and xeno cant help but be what they are. the heretic chooses to deny the emperor and therefor chooses his fate.

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>>52732978

Hello lads. I posted here a bit back having just gotten started on painting the minis.

Hows this colour scheme look?

I think I did alright on making his leg look swollen, seeing as I had no clear plan and just used Screamer Pink and Bugmans Glow with two shades of Carroburg Crimson and a drybrush of BFTBG to make it glossy and extra sore (Had no Ardcoat).

>>52737183

You'll probably live long enough to see your legs returned to you in the form of robotics or vat grown legs made out of pig meat

>>52737837
>You can also take the looted emperor variant
>Swap Vain Hope for Psychic Dakka, and Remove constantly dying if you have at least one Weirdboy
>Psychic Dakka: Warp Charge 7, Strength D AP 1 Apocalyptic Blast that inflicts Soul Blaze.

>>52738378

If that happens you bet your ass I'm going for the robotics.

>>52738375
you'd probably want to go to the painting general specifically, but it looks good anon!

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>>52738375

Leg looks better from behind.

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>>52733425
>>52733476
>still dies to Russ/10
>Titan weapon
>SaP
>+2 to base strength and ap
>+2 ap
>people will argue that means lass cannoo become ap4 and multi melta ap3
>3/10 way too inefficient unit design
You failed

>>52738393
question, are the legs gone or do they just not work? Is it spinal or just amputated? Because if it's amputated you'll probably have robo legs sooner. There's already robo arms for amputees that use what nerves are left behind to move. Obviously if there are no electrical impulses at all it becomes a smidge harder to build for, but that's on its way too.

>>52738422
-2 AP then. It's hard to word that.

>>52737183
>They are truly despicable people and almost made me feel bad for the piece of shit that hit me.

>The guy who effectively saved my life is a truly despicable person because he did his job correctly and presented his advocacy in a forceful manner

I hope you lose your arms as well tbqh you whiny hypocrite. You wanted the money. You got the money. You're as bad as he is.

>>52738426

Amputated just above the knees so that's encouraging.

>>52738468

Take it to /b/, sweetheart.

>>52738468
>t. lawyer

>>52738253
The heretic for he may be hidden among you waiting to betray us all.

>>52738029
>A magical chinaman appears
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2062028
I bought some of these bases. Pretty good.

>>52738504
I know several bilateral amputees, but they are all below knee and one with one above one below
I absolutely do not envy having to learn to walk on 2 robotic knees
I don't know how much research you've done into prosthetics but the power knee might be your best bet here

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Waiting for my PB&J Nid friend to show up so we can have a pretty massive game /tg/ what are you lads doing?

>>52738457
>-2 AP to a minimum of ap1
Trust me you have to basically play the game for some people, there are many retards pretending to know what are the intended rules for this game

>>52733425

>give him Psi titan weapon

>Sinistramanus Tenebrae. It's an absurdly long-ranged apocalyptic mega-blast that's Strength D, with Fleshbane on its middle circle and Poison 4+ on its outer circle, and AP 1/2/3 for its respective ranges. Oh, and the innermost circle is a Vortex so a lucky roll on the Destroyer table probably won't save you.

>>52738693
I'm still recovering from the Apocalypse game yesterday and trying not to want a Scout titan.

>>52738719
>>52738694
thanks for the advice anons, i'll put an improved version of him down somewhere and see how close to the real thing it is if he's ever released.

>>52738724
I still remember my first apoc game. It was at the flgs and all the regulars brought their big stuff, asked me and my friends if we wanted to play. we were naive and said yes. I ended up bringing two units of CSM, which were promptly thrashed by a titan, before our allies tau manta was plopped down on the table and we watched it decimate for a few turns before getting kfc for lunch. It was a good day, but boy we were unprepared.

>>52737740
Just as an example, let's say the list he's building a Tau list for 1500 points, and he's spent 1445 points. He wants to add another Crises Suit (22 points) with a twin-linked fusion blaster (20 points) to his anti-tank Crises Team. But he also wants his riptide to have a Stimulant Injector (15 points).

>Hey, dude! Can we raise the bar by another 2 points? You can totally just add two bolters on your guardsmen's sergeants and it'll be fair!

>>52738799
I brought two baneblades and a knight, Space Wolves brought a Scout titan and another IG player brought a baneblade too. Opposing side didn't have any superheavies, but they still won by one point.

>>52738820
Stims for a Riptide cost 35, but aside from that your point stands.

It gives an advantage to the person who went over initially, since they get to plan out their list from the ground up with it in mind, while the other guy has to haphazardly add something

>>52738693
Absolutely nothing, out of glue and no good brushes, so... waiting for Tuesday and then hoping my plastic dealer is able to circumnavigate this maze of holidays, half holidays, business holidays and 5 day delivery to get me my fix with time to spare for the event on the 29th.

>>52737248
>>52737737
The only FW resin model that GW sells as far as I know is the Smaug from the Hobbit

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So, I am playing AdMech Convocation and I am disguisted in current magic meta. So, question. Shold I get SoS as allies or just set more firepower to counter all that invisible staff?

>>52738253
A mutated alien heretic

>>52738820
but, on the contrary he could just remove a bonding knife ritual off his 5 man breacher team, save 5 points and his list would be 3 pts under

but the rest of his army has bonding knife, so now the player who was 2 pts over has to remember that one squad of his many now doesn't have bonding knives, which is a pain in the ass for him

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>>52738693
Working up the motivation to paint my Rubricae. Lamenting the fact I didn't do subassemblies for painting my exalted sorcs and ahriman. I'll probably get around to it later with a nice mug of tea.

>>52738919
sisters or imperial assassins, it's not easy to just brute force it with no psykers.

>>52738919
This reminds me, how many Sisters of Silence do you need to run them?

>>52738944
To fill 1850 points roster, I think two squads of vigilators in rhinos will be enough. And one more question. Due to their detachment rule, have I +3 inches bonus from that rhinos?

>>52738944
a single 5 man squad, but the ideal is 3 5 man squads in their rhinos.

Their formation is 1-3 SoS units and they gain
Nauseating Aura - Enemy psykers suffer -1 WS
Rite of Annulment - For each unit from this deatchment after the first on the battlefield increases the range of psychic abomination by 3"
With 3 SoS + 3 Rhinos this is +18" for a total 30" bubble around each unit.

Psychic abomination reduces all psykers leadership by 3, cannot generate warp charges, can only harness the warp on a 6 (which overrides all other wapr generation rules/formations), removes all psychic buffs (like invisibility), and all psychic debuffs, and they are immune to all psychic attacks.

The minimum cost for this is 315 pts.

>>52738253
Heretic. They saw the truth and chose to turn away.

Dante was right, the greatest of all sins is betrayal.

>>52738929
>has to remember that one squad of his many now doesn't have bonding knives, which is a pain in the ass for him
This! Sure it's the players responsibility to remember his own army composition, but when I bring 10 squads with only 9 of them having melta bombs is just annoyance waiting to happen.

>>52738838
Yeah superheavies with HP are garbage this edition

>>52738937
Are you me?

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>>52739056
You just have to bring the right superheavy

>>52739056
I mean we would have won by two points if the third of the table with half the objectives in it didn't explode into nothingness.
I still wouldn't want to replace my Baneblades with more Leman Russes or something.
>>52739077
>tfw they raped the classic

>>52739066
Ah, we're in the same boat then. So anon, did you forget the subassemblies or just glue them anyway because you needed them for a game and were short on time and bluetack.

>>52739150
I simply forgot. Fortunately now though I'll make sure not to.

>>52739049
>>52738929
Then perhaps you should just drop the bonding knife rituals from all your squads and use the points somewhere else? Or only give the rituals to a couple very important squads and use the remaining points elsewhere? Or even take away the BNR from one squad that happens to be assigned to backfield objective babysitting.

It's your responsibility to build a list within the points limit that satisfies your taste for symmetry, not mine. After all, those 2 points that I now get to spend on Sargent bolters now mean that I have to keep track of which Sargent use bolters and which don't. So now I'd have to keep track of whose-who and whose-not.

>>52738693
Working on shotgun veterans.

Worrying that 8th edition Guard might not have shotgun veterans

Anybody got experience buying from Wayland Games ? Nice prices 'n all, but i've heard mixed stuff about their delivery.