/swg/ Speak Softly edition

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>>52708970
Post yfw Luke drank the Kreia-ade

>>52709180
He doesn't want to kill the Force.

Fuck's sake this trailer has set off so many fucking spergs I don't know what to do now.

>>52709267
>He doesn't want to kill the Force.

Bitch u don' kno that.

>>52709692

What are several good RPG ideas for archaeology sans Sith and Jedi junk?

>>52710227
Wiped out Civilizations in Wild Space

>>52709746
Look at Ogg Dude's SW character generator
The program definitely has a full list

I need Lars Mikkelsen to read the Thrawn audiobook.

>>52710227
Rakata shit

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>>52709267

No, but he's gunning for Supreme Edgelord of the Force.

>>52710312
Marc did a good job with Lars' Thrawn . Also he added some new voices compared to the other Zahn books.

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Sabine confirmed for Destiny Set 3. I guess FFG couldn't help putting their waifu in eventually.

>>52710618
Confirmed for buying Destiny Set 3
I saw some people got the card already, how ridiculous are scalpers going to be?

>>52710635
Shouldn't be be too bad, apprently it didn't have the die with it

>>52710694
Yeah It's just a promo full-art, but some are on eBay for $150 already.

>>52710694
Oh. its nice but without the die kind of pointless

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>>52708970
Mission 1- Top Gun tournament, The winner gets to add one of their ships to their final squad.

Mission 2- Imperial Assault mission, the winner gets to add another Top Gun ship to their fleet.

Mission 3- If the Imperials win, they can bring in 2 Top Gun hips in turn 3+ if there are already 60 points of ships destroyed.
If the rebels win, they can redeploy ships at PS 12, 100 points worth, allowing overflow (eg, can bring 4 33 point ships, or a ~150 point CR-90)
If a draw, no bonuses for anyone.

Mission 4- Imperial Assault mission, If the imperials win, they can place 6 Cluster Mine tokens after PS 2 that do not detonate when overlapped by imperial ships.

Mission 5- The winner gets to add a 45 point Scum Ship to their fleet, but this ship is treated as neutral and cannot share information with its side.

mission 6- Imperial Assault mission, If the rebels win, they can equip 4 ships with Hyperwave Comm Scanners for free, ignoring upgrade slots.

Mission 7- This is a 400 point epic game, winner wins the overall campaign.
Mission fluff is as follows-

1. Skirmishes between Imperial and Rebel advance scouts.

2. Both sides attempt to take control of a fuel refinery

3. The Rebels attempt to hijack an Imperial communications network in space.

4. The Imperials attempt to take control of a Rebel bomb storage facility.

5. The Rebels attempt to deliver a shipment of goods to bribe a local crime lord into supporting them.

6. The Rebels attempt to break into an Imperial intelligence outpost to steal plans about the upcoming attack.

7. Both sides amass forces to attempt the push the other off of the planet.

Cont-

>>52710885

Mechanically, this is what the missions are-

For mission 1, It's a Top Gun round-robin tournament between both sides.

For mission 5, it's going to be the Senator's Shuttle /Squadmate mission, but re-fluffed.

For mission 3, It will use the Satelite mission from the Tantive, but with 6 Satelites(4 health, 1 agility). If the Rebels destroy 3 the game is a draw, 6 and the rebels win. Satelites can be protected via the Protect action.

For missions 2, 4, and 6, I am re-using IA missions that have similar objectives.

Does this campaign seem fair? any comments/criticisim/suggestions/advice?

I've been posting this in the last couple of threads, and I'm attempting to finalize this before running it tomorrow.

Planning to run my first AoR game in the next month or so. read through the core book, and the three options they give me to give to m players at start, seems odd. Either a safe house and 1k more credits each, a squadron of y wings, or a "clean" stolen lambda? Are there better options? these all seem niche or like they won't last long. What have you given your players instead?
Also, other basics I should know about running AoR?

>>52711458
Really it only matters what you want to give them. If you want to give them better ships, then do so.

For basics, make them describe and think about what to spend advantages and disadvantages on rather than you doing it.

Reading the new Thrawn book.

I really don't like the weird italicized tense-change that Zahn used to narrate Thrawn's observations of body language.

They really take me out of the moment.

Possibly just because Wendig has forever ruined "Present Tense Star Wars not in an RPG" for me, but it just really freaks me out.

>>52710618

Any X-Wing/Armada stuff from the FFG event today? I wanted to go but Mark Hamill's tribute to Carrie Fisher took priority.

>>52711705
>>52711458

Players spend advantage and triumph. You spend threat and despair. Don't ever let your players pick the bad shit.

>>52711963
the invitational is tomorrow. err- today. (saturday)

Hah, the Thrawn novel slips in a cute little 'Trek nod with a suggestion that comlinks be added into rank plaques.

>>52712231

Would they male announcements about future products there?

>>52712394

*make

>>52709180
He doesn't want to end the use of the force or the force itself.

He just knows that the Jedi code is too rigid and lead to all the problems to begin with.

He wants both the Jedi and the Sith to end so that the living can stop trying to pervert the force into something they think it should be.

It's the death of dogmatism and just letting the force be what it is.

I only come here for pictures of cool starships

I prefer smaller personal starships with a small living quarters enough for a crew of 4 or 5.

>>52712546
While I'd love for this to be the case, its probably just an excuse for MaRey to convince him that he's just being jaded and Jedi are still good or some bullshit.

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Sup /swg/ I want to port some species over to show my GM. I want to make sure they are balanced so have a look at my spreads. If you are families with the species lore and think you have a better idea let me know.
>corrupted arakkoa
2 brawn
1 agility
2 intelligence
3 cunning
3 willpower
1 presence
100 xp or 90 xp and a point in deception
They are corrupted do to a darkside plague.

>>52712465
If Chumbalaya wins, then we know we get Trioculus in the game.

Other than that, nothing new for armada/x-wing.

>>52713009
Wait what? They're letting winners pick EU characters to add and he's pledged our three eyed lord of Dark greetings?

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According to the guest list, Chuck Wendig is supposed to be at Celebration. Has /swg/ made him storm out yet?

I'm very upset about not going. I was gonna have my X-Wing pilot cards signed with words of encouragement.

So a question from last thread, are Shipfag's ship combat fixes for EOTE/AOR/FAD effective in practice? I haven't used them yet so my judgment might be unfair, but I don't get why giving all ships a big boost in hull and system strain thresholds is a good combat fix.

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>>52708970
OP pic makes me think of one glaring plothole in Disneycanon

what the fuck happened to the Imperial Navy?

I don't know if they still consider it accurate or not, but the Imperial Navy might've had as many as 30,000 ships by the Battle of Endor, including 25,000 SD classes and variants. The Imperial Navy not only had better ships, better crew, and better admiralty than the navy of the Alliance, it also had significantly more capital ships, even though the Alliance navy outnumbered them overall thanks to their use of floods of lighter vessels. Still, the Imperial Navy was still greatly superior to the Alliance Navy at the end of Endor, even with a Death Star II and Executor omitted. The EU handled this well, making it clear that the Alliance knew they couldn't beat the Imperial Navy and that all their bets were on the Emperor's death being what won them the war, not military might.

They were right, and it's only because of the Imperial moffs splitting off and becoming warlords and dividing the Imperial Navy into a few dozen different pieces that the New Republic could hold its own, but it still took a disproportionate amount of Alliance ships to defeat smaller Remnant and Warlord fleets.

Disney canon has none of this. In one year, it's all gone, and it's said Jakku was the last holdout of the Imperial Navy... with like 50 ships total. In a year. The New Republic and Empire lost huge numbers of ships at Jakku, but how did the Empire have so few ships left? The Alliance lost most of their fleet taking down the remnant at Jakku, and that's canon, so how the hell did the Alliance beat the full-strength Imperial Navy in a year if Warlords and the Imperial Civil War aren't canon?

Was it the Force?

>>52713317
someone needs to go up to him and politely say "mr wendig, i didn't like your book"

then sit back and watch him throw a temper tantrum that shuts down the whole event as he yells at ear-bleeding levels about homophobes, fascists, "the fucking empire", and some shit about gay rainbow meteors while he strips down and runs around naked, flailing wildly as he snorts many more lines of coke off his manboobs

>>52713332
>but I don't get why giving all ships a big boost in hull and system strain thresholds is a good combat fix.
Well, it was not so much a combat fix per se as a personal preference thing of mine that was in the same post
Me, I'm an old WEG D6 guy who likes things, most especially capital ships being more durable and crits being actually important in taking stuff down, whereas with base stats I've found that they don't actually matter much when you can just shoot twice and kill stuff before the crit damage matters too much
Really with fighters it just cuts down on first-hit kills, which is good for PC and recurring NPC survival, but in a pitched fight it doesn't slow things down terribly much

>>52713422
That makes sense.

I also really like the idea of shields being opposed checks. I always felt that capital ship shields especially felt too weak.

>>52713422

Our experiences with WEG D6 are very different. I find that an X-Wing is able to consistently take out a TIE fighter in one round because it has four attacks with almost twice as many die vs hull per attack. If you have 4D or more in gunnery you'll consistently vape the target.

>>52712711
yeah, that's cool

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>>52713395
There are probably a couple of different factors, and if we get some decent worldbuilding authors in NuCanon then hopefully they can explain this in better detail. Still, some ideas:

1)The Imperial Navy is smaller than in Legends. Make it about 1/3rd of the legends numbers, even smaller, and it becomes more plausible.

2)Open Rebellion after Endor means that ISDs are repeatedly blown up in port or simply denied access to repair and refueling stations. Hundreds of ISDs are simply sitting out in space, their crew having abandoned them.

3)Mutiny-The rapidly collapsing Imperial bureaucracy means that Naval crews are left unpaid, leading to tons of defections and mutinies, including some captains doing the old Legends strategy of going their own way. They'll be explained in NuCanon as "pirates," rather than warlords claiming to represent a form of the Empire. This leads to my next point

5)The Jakku holdouts are the last remnant of the LOYAL Imperial Navy. There are still plenty of ships out there, they're just abandoned, have gone rogue, been taken over in planetary revolts, or even just gone AWOL with no explanation. These weasel words will allow NuCanon writers to bring back a picture of the postwar galaxy that's closer to what Legends was.

>>52714572
That was 4 points, excuse my inability to count, I'm really tired cause I've been cramming a paper for school most of the night

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>>52714572
Oh yeah, point 4) was supposed to be that the Rebels managed to take advantage of the chaos to undermanned and under-defended Imperial shipyards-the Battle of Kuat probably took place a couple of months after Endor, and the loss of those shipyards puts a serious damper on the Navy.

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>>52714572
I think we've all had either realistic expectations of how big the Imperial Navy is, or alternatively subscribed to the other numbers bandied about being in the 10's of 1000's of SD's along with 100,000's of ancillary ships.
What we might get is quite a much smaller, more flexible force which still has 1000's of the smaller cruisers, escorts and so on in a semi-static role of patrolling sectors or in defensive arrangements around important places. Then the heavy hitters like an SD and its squadron are capable of hyperspace travel where needed in incredibly short amounts of time. Somewhere gets hit or in disarray, they send a call for help and the roving squadrons just come in and punish the offenders.

Thinking back to the 90s and the fall of the soviet union just as and example and something to base behaviour off-of from what relatives have told me. Some of their regular military held out for about 3-6 months without being paid, then they just hopped on the nearest truck and buggered off home, or decided to migrate somewhere less horrible. Others went full underground selling off state assets to anyone with hard currency and all manner of corruption in return for cash, basic services, food and the like. There was hold-outs though in some of the more elite forces that the state made sure got paid (missile command, some of the subs, some of Spetsnaz, GRU and their best motorised infantry) but everything else was just left to rust.

If we use that as an analogue to the collapse of the Empire, Palps had full control of the purse strings and the only successor (Vader) who could conceivably maintain control was dead as well, so it would come rapidly unstuck in a couple of months. The Imp Senate was dissolved on the creation of DS-1, so there's not even a pretence of anyone qualified to control anything

>>52708970
>that one fucker that isn't even trying to fly in formation

>>52709180
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>>52712546
What they showed was early in the movie. He SAYS no more Jedi, yet we see him training Rey. Why would he do that? Train her to not fall to the Dark Side maybe, but why lightsaber training? Clearly he's going to say that after she asks for training, and she convinces him otherwise or something happens to change his mind.

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Thoughts? Fuck up or genuine possibility?

>>52715729
>Somewhere gets hit or in disarray, they send a call for help and the roving squadrons just come in and punish the offenders.

Considering how much quicker hyperspace travel appears to be in the new films, if this were the new canon it wouldnt shock me honestly.

Would work too, with the sort of speeds they pull off.

>>52715800

No more Jedi =/= no more force users.

Especially given she talks about balance, it might be harkening back to the old lore about the jeedai living on Tython way back thousands of years ago.

They were all about balance and using both light and dark if need be, but not focusing on one or the other.
Focus on only light and you'll end up losing part of your power, focus on only dark and you'll end up losing part of yourself.

What are some infernal/evil devices that a very mechanically handy dark jedi might produce? Ideally ones that might help him in combat or fight for him as he's not that good in a fight. Small scale impressive things, the guy's tremendously skilled but he's not a super genius so no star forges or anything like that.

(A player in a FaD game I'm running fell to the dark side very hard and had to run away from the very light side party, the party plans on pursuing him so I'm trying to make him somewhat of a challenge since he's actually pretty piss poor at combat and I don't want to just buff his combat stats)

>>52716706
By small-scale, do you mean man-portable stuff? Or are vehicles and crew-served weapons also within the acceptable scale?

>>52716706

Maybe the sort of shit the Empire would use as torture devices - weapons and gear that cause massive targeted pain rather than outright damage?

Also, poisons.
So many poisons.
And so many ways of delivering them to people.

>>52716202
I imagine it was a joke.

>>52712833
Anyone?

>>52716742
Both are fine, I'd like for this guy to be a small adventure by himself. I feel like it wouldn't be a very fair sendoff for them to just corner him in a room in an hour of game time and off the guy.
>>52716774
I was thinking some kind of fear causing device at first but then I looked up and apparently that's already a thing and they're INCREDIBLY hard to understand so probably beyond this guy's scope. Torture and pain things might be neat and work though, maybe a new type of disruptor

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>>52716359
They're very fast in recent movies, to the point its in hours rather than days or something. On a strategic sense that does make them very formidable now that hyperspace is super-fast travel and can drop a fleet on people out of nowhere.
But, that stuffs not cheap and spaceships need staggering amounts of spares, fuel and manpower to keep them rolling at optimal efficiency, couple of strikes on supply stations could render the big ones stuck in port for long periods of time.

>>52716706
The torture device in Firefly which sends tendrils under the skin is quite scary.

>>52716894


Very true.

In fact, with the new speed of hyperspace, it actually makes the old Empire even more terrifying.
It's one thing if the Death Star takes a week to get across the galaxy to fuck you.

If it takes five hours to do it, you get no warning.
Just suddenly you have an extra moon, and then you have one fewer planet.

Same for the SSDs.

>>52716938
New speed? Hyperspace jumps were always the speed of plot except in RPG sourcebooks.

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>>52716814
Cortosis or phrik power armor
A lanvarok (make sure to never actually describe it in detail)
Burrowing flamethrower tank
Tank with stygium stealth coating
A bomb that uses a warhead containing liquefied, Dark Side-tainted kyber crystals and good old-fashioned cobalt
Project Pluto, but with a droid brain. Maybe replace radioactive material with hypermatter.
A bomb that contains the rakghoul virus

>>52716993

Sure, but they took some time at least.
New ones are the speed of plot, and plot is incredibly fast.

Signal is bad, I'll do my best to update.

>>52713395

Star Wars has never acknowledged the scale that a galactic civilization should have.

The Star Wars galaxy supposedly has, at a minimum, tens of thousands of inhabited systems (based on Dooku's statements in AotC) and trillions of sentients (Coruscant has a trillion in nucanon as well). By this logic their should be at a minimum billions of soldiers, millions of fightercraft and tens of thousands of capital ships- which supports the number that's often thrown around of 25000 Star Destroyers. The problem is there's just no first had evidence of these numbers to be seen.

It's fair to ask where all those thousands of Star Destroyers were between Endor and Jakku, but where were they in the OT for that matter? Key battles of the Galactic Civil War are fought with numbers smaller than many real world conflicts. Scarif was supposedly a full scale deployment of the rebel fleet but there were only maybe a couple dozen capital ships and a few squadrons of fighters; on the Empire's side they were protecting an installation important enough to justify a planet-wide shield with just two ISD's and after they came under attack they were apparently reinforced with a single additonal ISD (the Devastator). A few days later the main rebel base had only a couple squadrons of fighters attached to it and at Hoth they had maybe a few thousand fighters total and 60 X-Wings. Entire planets are contested by a sinhle company of soldiers. And then at Endor, where the Emperor intended to crush the rebellion once and for all with overwhelming force, he brought along just a single legion of Stormtroopers and maybe a few dozen ISDs (admittedly in addition to the Executer and the Death Star)- which is supposedly the largest Imperial fleet ever assembled.

>>52717677
>By this logic their should be at a minimum billions of soldiers

>mfw in AOTC and ROTJ they talk about a few million clone troopers as if that's even close to enough to fight a galactic war
Sci fi writers almost never understand what 'scale' is.
It's a well known failing.

>>52717697
To be fair, the Kaminoan only says that they have 200,000 "units" ready with a million more on the way in AotC - no mention of the number of troops is made in RotS at all. And we're not told whether a "unit" is a single soldier or any group of soldiers up to a full battalion.

There is a story arc in TCW which deals with the fact that the Republic's coffers are being drained dry by the war, to the point where they legit had to decide between bankruptcy or buying an additional five million troops. That definitely points toward there being less troops overall than you'd think for a galactic scale conflict, but to say that there were only three million troops like Karen Traviss said and Matt Stover backed is... kind of retarded.

>>52717677

Now, I'll admit there are some other factors to consider. The rebellion is small and undersupplied, the Imperials have to spread their ships and soldiers over a massive territory to maintain order- but even these factors just don't bring the numbers seen in key battles down far enough to be believable. And as a scale-autist who's run in circles trying to make the numbers work I've learned that at a point you just have to let it go.

>>52716359
>>52716938
>>52716993
>>52717108

Hyperspace travel has always been WAY faster than the few days to a few weeks claimed by EU reference sources like WEG. The trip from Tatooine in the outer rim to Alderaan in the core, judging by dialogue and pacing in ANH, takes maybe fifteen minutes to a few hours (albeit in one of the galaxy's fastest ships) and the trip back from core space to Yavin takes in under a day (Vader's line about Kenobi's death and the impending destruction of the rebellion at Yavin occuring on the same day). Meanwhile there are all those long flights Luke takes in his X-Wing, which, judging by the lack of bathroom on that thing were probably a few hours at the most.

I willl agree that the travel in R1 was REALLY fast, one of the few things in that movie that irked me. Yavin was able to send ships to both Eadu and Scarif in a matter of minutes and both Tarkin and Vader are able to respond separately to the attack on Scarif in maybe a half hour at most.

So I guess while EU sources base hyperspace travel around real-world naval travel, it's actually more like real-world air travel. You can reach any point in inhabited space to any other in a day at most.

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>>52716814
A tank that with a large compLaser using a large Kyber crystal

>>52717794
Star Wars never played nice with numbers anyway.

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>>52716993
>>52717108
Problem I always found with 'speed of plot' is that while it works well for pacing in movies and cartoons, its a bit trickier in an RPG where you need at least some consistency. One of the things I tried to be dutiful with in games was that if the players needed to go from X to Y distance, then they should have a hard number as it also affects their ability to plan and it also affects how long the enemy could feasibly react to them undoubtedly fucking something up at Y.
Also they don't feel like they're getting value out of a fast hyperdrive, good astro rolls and feel the pressure of having to be somewhere with a slow one and a slightly retarded R1 droid doing the calcs.

So there is a disconnect I establish between film and game, just for those purposes.

>>52717794
>kind of retarded
>>52717819
>you just have to let it go

In a nutshell. It is annoying that there's no real sensible numbers to reference from, but maybe we're just expecting a bit much when the official media gives us a partial answer in a couple of hours. Because gamers tend to dig into things a bit more as a full time gaming group could log 1-300hrs over a year into their games. So they explore the limits of possibilities of what that genre, the setting provides to their own story's... and no one else in the world really gives a shit :)
Yeah, you can hurt your brain coming up with realistic numbers or rage at whats here. Kind of hard to find a happy middle ground

>>52717606
Thanks! Good luck!

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>>52717606
Happy hunting.

So there's one frame of the Rebels Season 4 trailer /swg/'s really gonna want to see, somebody should get on that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7GAhnVwhA

Final season.

>>52719012
>final season
like hell it is

Any one know if the u wing has been started out for the rpgs yet?

>>52718907
>>52719012
Which shot? The one with the dog?

Or the one with the defender?

The U-wing?

>>52719084

I mean, the official announcement is that it's the last season, at SWCO. No reason to doubt them - they'll just start a "new" show if Rebels ends, and since it seems like it's gonna sync up to Rogue One that seems about right. (Also, "The Balance" was pretty obvious in TLJ, so it seems like this is also going to key into some far future plot points)

Highlights:
>X-WINGS
>More U-Wing action
>More Defenders
>Hera gets her own Hyperspace stunt
>Yavin IV
>Mando wars (With Ezra for some reason)
>Bo Katan
>Rebel Callus

>>52719100
The Huey esque gunboats or whatever that are all over the place in rogue one

>>52719131
It doesn't sound like they're going to scariff. The VO implied that the climax is going to be Lothal.

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>>52719012
>T-65 is back
>And Wedge is a character on the show
Fucking hell, I wasn't too interested in Rebels before but now it has my attention. When's the X-Wing TV series happening, Disney?

>>52719161

Well, yeah, the show isn't going to go to Scariff, we saw it already. I don't think that headlining material is necessarily going to "overlap" with other big works. But this has X-wings, U-wings, Yavin and more Saw so it'll probably lead into the rebel situation before Scariff.

I drafted the striker, T-65, and quadjumper.

First game was against Asajj/Scout and drafted Zs. I took Hera decked out with navigator and the attack shuttle. I lost, but not before firing the seismic torpedo and killing shit with the T-65

>>52719100
>>52719132

The single frame of >>52719251 idiots. It's like you don't even read these threads.

>>52719252
The thing is, we saw the Ghost at Scarif, the show should go there.

>>52719012

>U-wings
>that X-wing squad
>that hyperspace shot through the hangar bay
Im hype.

>>52719266

Why? You saw the battle already.

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>>52719012

Who cares?

It's a show for children.

>>52719276
We didn't see anything of the ghost other than it showing up at Scariff, and getting the crew's perspective would be really interesting.

>>52719288
Star Wars is for kids, anon
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-celebration-george-lucas-40-years-carrie-fisher-harrison-ford-mark-hamill-a7683236.html

>>52713444
>I always felt that capital ship shields especially felt too weak.
I always felt that way about capital ships in general, which is also why the HT boost is silhouette-linked, so that capital ships and especially the big ones are properly tough and dangerous
>>52713487
I was mostly speaking about ships that aren't suicide sled fast interceptors like TIEs and A-wings
Also, I'm like 90% sure that the rule was that linked weapons just got extra damage dice while making a single attack, which is already figured into the printed stats for stuff. Like an X-wing has in effect a single laser that does 6D rather than four 3D lasers. Certainly it doesn't get four 6D blasts each round

Also I used houserule stuff increasing the maneuverability of TIEs and depending on the era also generally giving them good or at least dodgey pilots. I figure hitting a TIE should be hard, but it's generally toast when you do

My philosophy with fighters has always been that a good pilot is more important in both offensive and defensive terms than a good ship. Like, I think that wedge in a C-73 should be able to murder a rookie in a Defender most if the time, and while WEG does that well, FFG plain doesn't, hence the house rules
Also, another house rule of mine that didn't make the image was the return of starship dodging, which makes it a flat gunnery VS piloting opposed roll with handling giving setbacks, replacing standard (shit) Evasive Maneuvers

>>52719288
Because FFG makes ships from this.

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>>52719311
>Ghost crew's perspective of Scarif
2010 Bioware has you covered, anon.

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>>52709180
>"It's time for the Jedi to end"
>MUH LUKE MUST MEAN HE KILLED THEM ALL FOR A REASON
Calm the fuck down, mantits.

That's what's known as "clever editing," where the line isn't complete.

Here's what Luke probably says in the movie:

"It's time for the Jedi to end their exile and return to the fight."

You're fucking welcome.

-filmfag

>>52719012
I am officially hyped. Hopefully we'll get some hot Wedge-in-T-65 action worthy of the Ace of Aces

>>52719479
More likely it is something along the line of: "It is time for the Jedi to end, and a new tradition of force-users to take their place. You are the first of that tradition, Rey."

>>52719391

I've been running off Revised and Expanded. If I've been understanding the rules they get four attacks at five dice each. Since a TIE has 3D hull this means that a good round of attacks with four hits will kill on an average since you can go all the way down the damage track doing bare minimum rolls.

>>52719545

I'm going to be honest, that's also a crock of shit if true.

Rey was around for like, two weeks. She fell into his lap. She has no credibility beyond one fight and no real connection to anything going on. Putting it on her instead of doing it himself is retarded.

>>52719596
He'll probably drop that line either after a training montage al'a Dagobah or at the end of the film when she takes it upon herself to stop Snoke and Kylo

>>52713395
WIth all the systems the empire had to defend I suspect the majority of the imperial navy were smaller ships better suited to piracy defense and hunting or suited to squashing small scale rebellions

>>52708970
What do you guys prefer to play in FAD?

>>52719131
Also the alien with the staff is Rukh btw

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>>52719131
Rebel Kallus is /fa/

>>52719795
Nice, he's an Intelligence captain like Cassian.

Also are the green pips for Intelligence new from Rogue One, or was it always a thing?

>>52719469

Christ i hated that intro so much.
And that game in general,. actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghHgrjT_Hfk

You all seen this? Pretty funny getting Hamills perspective

>>52719910
>Hating the best ME game.

>>52719962

>ME2
>best anything
Anon please.

So help me if Thrawn dies I will drive to Lucasfilm, barge into the lobby and scream "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE" until I'm removed by security.

I just want him to be a player in the post-Imperial era.

First Order vs Chiss Ascendancy please?

>>52720080
The Thrawn book ends with events implied to be post-Thrawn death

>>52719012
>green X-wings

Huh, I don't think we've ever seen that color in any official media, legends or otherwise.

Maybe some obscure splatbook.

>>52720417
>Huh, I don't think we've ever seen that color in any official media, legends or otherwise.

CorSec has green X-Wings, and by extension, Corran Horn always uses one.

>>52720449
No art

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>>52720477

>>52720477
Try the Rogue Squadron comics
>>52720496
was about to post this pic.

>>52720496
That is not a very good coloring job

>>52720417
Maybe it's green squadron? We never see them but I think they're at Scarif.

>>52720553

Oh shit, that's nice.

>>52720540
Green Squadron usually flies A-wings

>>52720553
When do we get to see the T-85? The T-70 continually underwhelms me, and I can tell after a year of exposure that I just don't like it.

>>52720674
Poe probably gets it after his Black T-70 blows up. I heard it feels like an X-wing but it's nothing like the T-70's or 65's.

>>52720674
Probably never. The resistance didn't have T-85's and I'm pretty sure the Republic fleet is fucked.

>>52720698
There had better be a New Car Scene. It had better be totally rad.

I like how ILM is actually low-key mad that Bad Robot's ST designs were so bad.

They're not going to straight out SAY it, but it's obvious if you read between the lines.

>>52720553

Now the question, is the new A enough for a new mini and stat-line, or will it just get the Heroes of the Resistance treatment?

>>52720736
The new A is just the old A with spoilers attached.

>>52720736
it's not new. it's the same old A-wing

>>52720736
Well it looks like it has the heavier weapons of the unmodded Rebels A-wings with probably even more speed. It's possibly almost as fast as those special forces TIEs.

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>>52720736
Please. We'll be getting a new "such and such" A-wing for X-wing. Out this December. It will happen. Especially now that we know it is actually called an A-wing.

The real question is what fix cards come with it. Because it will be able to use chardaan and test pilot.

>>52720611
Could be a different Green Squadron. There were two Rogue teams (R1 and Hoth Rogues), multiple Red Squadrons (Yavin, Endor, one of Poe's teams), and multiple users of the Black callsign (Vader's guys, Poe himself).

1-1, my Rexler/Quickdraw/Striker beat Miranda/Biggs/HWK

>>52720807

Aw shit, that's a good win.

>>52720804
>R1 and Hoth Rogues
Rogue squadron named themselves after the Rogues that died on Scarif in the nucanon.
The reds were the same squadron just with rotations.
The black squadrons were on opposing side, idk what point you're trying to make with that.

>>52720753
>>52720757

And the Mk II A-Wing was just an A-wing, but the guns traversed. Let's not pretend the EU was a bastion of new fighter designs. Or at least, that they didn't ignore newer designs to just use the same ones over and over again.

And people ate me alive for daring to suggest the "Double A" in an insider story from forever ago wasn't a "New A-Wing".

>>52720845
The point is that color squadron names aren't that special. It doesn't seem that far-fetched for there to be multiple Green Squadrons in one continuity or era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kae-JjbLsgA

BF 2 Trailer

>>52721118

I mean, the imperial special forces focus is cool, but this trailer can't help but make me sad, there are too many dying X-Wings.

Open your foils, girl! Take flight!

>>52721142
https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/battlefront/battlefront-2

More info here as well

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>>52721118
All those Raider shots are fucking beautiful. So glad it is showing up in other media.

Otherwise, might actually be interested in the story of how the FO came to be. God knows no one else felt like telling it.

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>>52721217
>God knows no one else felt like telling it
>He doesn't like books

>>52721217

LF Story Group is all about integration now. I feel like they deliberately leave gaps in stories in order to pass them off to other media/works. This will probably sync up with Aftermath, Lost Stars, Shattered Empire etc and then move on to open the path for new material, or link into the "Path to TFA" stuff.

It makes everything feel like part of a wider universe - but also means they want you to buy more shit.

>>52721118
Huh, I guess the Emperor's emissary droids weren't just a Shattered Empire exclusive. Nice.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sentinel_(The_Contingency)

>evil brownish waifu

This looks good

>>52721283

Also apparently TIE/SFs have a spiritual predecessor - Imperial Navy Special forces guys in Red-trimmed Pilot uniforms... fab as fuck.

>Forge a new path as Iden Versio, commander of Inferno Squad—an Imperial special forces unit equally lethal on the ground and in space. Encounter many of Star Wars ' greatest characters in a story of revenge, betrayal, and redemption that spans 30 years.

Oh, shit! Isn't Golden doing a novel about Inferno Squad which has an imperial focus? Probably a Tie-in novel like Twilight Company.

>>52721217
The First Order is actually very interesting, it's only been badly hinted at though. The Empire fell because the core of its armies and fleets ALL fucked off to the Unknown Regions, while the less hardline just integrated into the New Republic. There was no long war, because there was no external enemy to fight; Imperial armies folded into their local sectors.

The New Republic was essentially just an Imperial successor state.

But then its Imperial-leaning factions ALL seceded and joined the First Order, which had spent its time making an independent military in the Unknown Regions. That's why the New Republic doesn't care too much about the First Order; half of it WAS the First Order at one point.

No one ever brings this up because the ST has been so barebones. Fucking mystery boxes. I hate JJ Abrams.

>>52721350
I'm with you anon.

After reading Bloodline I appreciate how deviously planned the whole thing was.

>>52720417
Green X-wing squadron, before the Deathstar trench run that only had Red and Gold squadrons alive/available.

I bet that Emerald Squadron is going to be annihilated just like the blue Squadron was wiped out on Scariff

>>52721457
>I bet that Emerald Squadron is going to be annihilated just like the blue Squadron was wiped out on Scariff
It's a safe bet.

>>52721118
>all those space battle scenes
>main character is a pilot
>interesting story premise

>everything shown will be for cutscenes only
>still won't be capital ship space battle maps
>fighter controls will be a joke
>story mode will be just bots on the same bland multiplayer maps
EA and DICE need to just fuck off and die

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>>52721350
But anon, don't you get it? All that stuff would be so much more interesting if you didn't know it!

>>52721495
At least it'll have a goddamn campaign

Admittedly it's pretty obvious that DICE artists still aren't very creative but as long as they're aping the actually talented folks I don't mind.

>>52721495
they've confirmed space battles, no idea if they'll be kind you want though.

>>52721587
They confirmed 24 player space battles, which is almost half the count of the ground battles, which were already smaller than in the original Battlefronts, so the odds of the space battles being at all upgraded from what they were in the first EA battlefront, which was just deathmatch with people spawning as fighters, is basically zero.

Grand Admiral Thrawn is going to be killed by fucking Warwick Davis, I'm dead and in hell, aren't I?

>yfw Hondo saves the day in the finale

>>52721695
No, stop, the only way to avoid disappointment at this point is to purge all notion of good things happening from my mind and that isn't helping.

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>>52721695

How do you feel about the Jedi's role in the Republic? Were they more space cops, ambassadors, or morks who for some reason the senate asked to take care of shit for them?

I'm still puzzled on their official place in the republic and what they did before the clone wars.

Maybe I should finally watch that season 3 finale, dammit

https://youtu.be/Kae-JjbLsgA

>>52721817
They were literally all of that.

>>52721817
>what they did before the clone wars.
SWTOR does a decent enough job of this.
In short there were always pretty strong feelings about the relationship between the Jedi and the Republic. There was anger from those who saw the Jedi as the senate's lackeys, but many Jedi and Republic members viewed the relationship as more symbiotic.

No season pass for BF2

>>52721817
In Legends, sometimes, they were all of them. Sometimes, the OJO tried to remain independence from the Republic's problems to maintain their impartiality in galactic affairs. One notable example of this was the OJO trying to stay out of the Mandalorian Wars.

>>52721948
That's unusual.

>>52722035
EA is up to something

>>52722035
They babbled something about 'not paywalling content'.

Probably just go for Overwatch loot crates.

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>>52721118

That definitely looked like a scene of Kylo killing off the jedi academy.
Interdestan.

That said, the story seems to imply we're playing as the same Special Forces tie pilot woman from the end of the Empire through to the First Order.
How is she still so combat capable in her 50s or 60s

>>52720080
I hope so too, but as an aside note, didn't they basicly kill off any idea of having imperial warlord shenanigans between ep6 and 7 by having everything outside the unknown regions get defeated during the Aftermath trilogy, which I think only lasts a year after episode 6?

>They wasted a perfectly good plot.jpg

>>52722147

Hate-fueled competence. She'll only die after the last honor-less rebel bleeds out in front of her.

>>52722147
>How is she still so combat capable in her 50s or 60s
That was pretty standard in legends, people plain just don't get old as fast in star wars

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>>52721118

>click to the 'last jedi heros' thing
>pic related

Sweet jesus christ in heaven Y E S.
That card system was such absolute cancer.
Im fucking hype for this now.

Plus i mean with all this focus on space combat int he trailer, sure they've got to improve the flight mechanics right?

WEG newbie here, I have a skill question
How many dice in their primary fighting skill should a very experienced bounty hunter or enemy ace have? 5? 10? 20?

>>52721118

http://mashable.com/2017/04/15/star-wars-battlefront-2-season-pass-no-more/#jqrTFmc2ngqF

Well hey, maybe they wont go full retard this time and split the community five ways.

>>52722204
>>52722383

Well, I don't know if it'll be "good", but it sure as hell sounds like at least it has the components everybody wanted. We just wanted Battlefield but star wars...

>>52722147
Space past-future medicine and a life of physical fitness?

>>52722238
Eight to ten. maybe 11 for a really exceptional one.
More than twelve is into the realm of the legendary, fifteen one of the best alive. Twenty dice would be ridiculous, that person would be the absolute top of the pyramid, THE best alive, maybe the best *ever*

>>52722414
Personally, I wanted modern Battlefield map detail but Battlefront 2 content.

Honestly, I would have been good if they just rolled out a patched Battlefront 2 with literally no changes except a new set of servers. Maybe with a few minor tweaks so it runs effortlessly on modern machines.

>>52722204
So it still has less classes than even the original old Battlefront, which had 5 per faction, and the original Battlefront 2 which had 6.

>>52722510

Yup.
But it has a marked increase on the last one, which had zero.

It's just in line with the newer Battlefield games pretty much.
Which, while not as good as being in line with the original Battlefronts, is better than being in line with the new one.

>>52722414
I dont trust ea enough not to fuck it up so I am going to wait for it to release before buying

>>52722510

Thank God, Battlefront classes were completely retarded. Using BF3-4 four class system with huge loadouts variety is much more fun and cinematic than having AT-AT pilots running around with grenade launchers with basically one out of 6 classes having a simple fucking blaster rifle.

>>52721118
Damn, are we finally getting another game from the Empire's point of view?

Here's to hoping it has a awesome singleplayer campaign as well as multiplayer. Even if it's just PS2 BF2s "MP maps with bots and story segments".

>>52722641

Isnt the last game we got from the Empire's pov the original Battlefront 2?

I actually cant think of any others in the interim.

Im a rebel and always will be so im a little disappoint, but at the same time, I'm happy for Imperibros getting a story and even a waifu.

We finals, baby!

>>52722718
Didn't Empire at War come out after BF2? Or aren't we counting that heap of fail?

>>52722902

Eh, I guess EaW counts yeah.
I fucking loved that game though.

>>52722901
Go forth and conquer, you glorious bastard.
The Power of Trioculus is strong in you

>>52722901

Awww shit, may the force be with you.
For Trioculus!

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>>52722910
I played Rebellion for more hours than i care to count when i grew up so EaW always seemed like a bad knock-off of that. Plus the whole DRM shitstorm that was going on kinda turned me off EaW as well.

>>52722901
May Dark Winnings be upon you.

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>>52722901
Awesome. Have a brewski

>>52722954

That's fair.
I never got to play Rebellion when I was younger, so EaW was the first one I got other than Galactic Battlegrounds. Which doesnt count.

I dont remember a DRM shitstorm though, i mustve been insular af back then.

>>52722901

Everyone, give Chumbalaya your energy!

DARK GREETINGS

>>52723016
The DRM shitstorm was end-users (aka we, the players) getting shat on by a lot of companies that added DRM software on their games. DRM software that installed itself on your computer without telling you and taking up a crapload of space and CPU with no way of getting rid of it short of running a rootkit and picking it out file by file.

When that was exposed there was a epic shitstorm and after like 6 months the game companies relented and stopped hiding DRMs on games.

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>>52722901
>We finals, baby!

>>52722901
I believe in you!

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So today, /swg/ I realized that I have made a huge fucking mistake.

My wife has been running a solo FFG adventure for me: an imperial fighter pilot game a few months post-Endor. I won't bore you with all the details, but here's a few highlights:

>Palpatine majorly fucked around with the Inquisition, using Sith Alchemy to both enslave them to his desires when he was alive and make them the perfect vessels for his spirit to regain power and eventually possess
>Grand Admiral Takel's spice addiction is a sham invented by his brother to hide Takel's Force Sensitivity from the Inquisition
>My character is basically a Fel supporter, trying to convince Grand Vizer Pestage that the throne sould pass to him
>There is a tiny, poor, backwards little planet called Almania whose King and Queen gave up their children (boy and girl) to the Jedi decades ago

My character (pic related) grew up in an orphanage because I wanted to give my wife a blank check when it came to parental surprises. However, I didn't count on my character's father not only being the current Grand Inquisitor, but also the son of the Almanian Royals. Or, in other words...my character is the son of a fucking Jedi Prince.

I'm so proud of her, /swg/

>>52723138

Oh, right, yeah, I remember that as a thing but didnt remember EaW being part of it, is what I meant.

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>>52723237
EaW came out at the end of the DRM debacle i think. I was kinda paranoid about DRM shit back then so i didn't play EaW until i could get a 100% clean copy (about 2 years ago to be exact)

Have you ever ignored or outright redone the prequels in one of your games? I was considering doing a blank slate clone wars game ignoring anything but the OT..

>>52720177
Hey can you shut the fuck up please? The book hadn't been out for a week. Go spoil heir or some bullshit

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>>52722901
TAKE MY ENERGY

>>52722901
DARK GREETINGS

>>52723220
>I have made a huge fucking mistak
Where is the mistake?

>>52723657
Letting my wife know about Dark Greetings.

Also, making myself an orphan in Star Wars, but that one was kinda on purpose.

>>52723679
You are a lucky man anon.

>>52718035
>>52717957
>>52717819
>>52717794
>>52717697
>>52717677

The only sci-fi war series I've delved into deeply that actually pays attention to numbers and scale is LoGH, where you have thousands of ships and where 300,000+ causalities is considered a relatively average sized battle.

But the problem is that if you portray star wars with that kind of enormity, it's far more difficult for the heroes to make an impact. Poe works better as the ace pilot of the lone fighter squadron rather than just one flight leader in a 500 ship strike force.

>>52723743
Hail Kaisar Reinhard!

EA Battlefront was a shitshow but fuck me if their Rebel designs weren't sexy as hell

I'm gay for those helmets

The new Disney Park for Star Wars is going full Westworld.

The whole thing is a bloody RPG.

>>52722165
Yep.

Fuck Wendig.

>>52723958
yeah, it sounds sick

>>52723975
He hates us too.

>>52723975
To be fair to Cuckdig, LSG probably gave him that information.

>>52722165
Warlords were done already, we super conspiracy now see >>52721350

>>52721350
So, the new Republic let old imperial officers join, but kicked Leia off the senate because her dad was Vader?

>>52724165
Vader was vilified more than the Emperor.

>>52723318
Alternate universe/timeline games are pretty popular.

>>52724181
That's horse shit. Vader wasn't even a public figure. On the other hand, anybody could have looked in a history book to see who the Emperor was, or at the very least reason that the Empire was led by an emperor of some description. It seems pretty clear that at least before the battle of Yavin, Vader was relatively unknown outside of the imperial elite.

>>52724239
Most of the Senate knew who Vader was given most of them were either exImperial or Rebel Alliance Members.

>>52724274
That still doesn't explain why they'd all want to kick Leia out of the senate.

>>52723958
>>52723987
It's an upgraded version of Legends of Frontierland.

http://micechat.com/73591-legends-of-frontierland-first-look/
Pretty neat, but VERY player dependent. Probably will work a lot better with a new land based on a property with a huge fan base that a lot of people will stay in/keep returning to than Frontierland, which most people, who aren't hitting Big Thunder, just walk through.

>>52724296
If Hitler's daughter was about to be made president of the United States, you don't think some people's jimmies would be rustled?

Or how her opponents would spin it against her publicly?

>>52724364
Yeah, but if there were former nazi officers making up a good portion of the government already, it doesn't add up. To keep your metaphor going, there are actual former nazis in high offices, Senators and Representatives, but then you have Hitler's daughter, someone who led the fight to topple his regime, and she's not allowed to hold office.
I get that people wouldn't like the association, but when you have actual Imperials heading parts of your government, doesn't that argument go out the window?

>>52724418
Maybe the families of the officers that Vader killed gained power

>>52724418
>when you have actual Imperials heading parts of your government
They weren't Imperials anymore. For the most part, the galaxy thought the Empire was gone.

The Sympathizers played on the fears of the public that the Republic's demilitarized state would weaken worlds to pirates and outlaws.

Seeding the potential for a future rise.

>>52721578
more that he thinks he can force spielbergian affection and wonderment to bloom around his work by making people fight him for it.

>>52724418
What if those imperials heading parts of the government were responsible for trying to get Leia ousted? I mean they would have good reason to dislike her and would want to see her gone since she would most likely actively work against everything they do. Maybe it doesn't have anything to do with her relation to Vader, and more with her devotion to fighting all forms of the empire when they show up. I mean that would be more detrimental her then the Vader thing since the New Republic wanted to avoid conflict with the First Order and Leia was persistent on fighting them.

>>52712675

Just like the original force user was a proud woman of color that learned the secrets from a tree, only to get cut down by her hideous white brother who learned too from the tree, but of the Dark Side.

>>52724524
For all we know, the "former" Imps were enemy infiltrators using their political jobs and anti-Leia fearmongering as a smokescreen for their clandestine attempts to weaken the NR.

>>52724524
Bloodline makes it clear why her Populist allies turned against her, and that is that her father was Vader. It has everything to do with this, it just doesn't make sense.

DARK GREETINGS, /SWG/

I'M A WINNER

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>>52724614
MY MAN

>>52724614
Today is a good day.

Dark Greetings be with you.

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>>52724614
YESSSSS

>>52724614
proof now

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>>52724614
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

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>>52724614
Very nice.

>>52724614
BWAH GAHD

>>52724614
DARK GREETINGS FOR ALL IN THE X-WING COMMUNITY
REMEMBER MY BOY, YOU WON BECAUSE YOU FOUGHT FOR A CAUSE. A CAUSE TO DECLARE DARK GREETINGS FOR ALL FELLOW /swg/ VISITORS AND TO ANNOY THE SHIT OUT OF ALL OUR FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES BY CONSTANTLY REMINDING THEM JEDI PRINCE EXISTS.

>>52724614
Wait...of the whole shebang?

Are we actually gonna fucking get a Trioculous card??

For atmospheric operations, what would the empire use as a small airborne troop transport? Just a Lambda shuttle, or is there something similar to an LAAT?

>>52724614
Thank you chumbalaya. May your future have many gloves that belong to darth vader.

I always liked QuickDrawTheir Fire and Rexpertise.

Normally I run those alongside my various forms of TIE swarm, but you have proven that I should do that every time, for Trioculus has decreed it so.

3x Omega Squadron Pilot (Weapons Guidance, Crack Shot)
Rexpert

And

Howlrunner (Crack Shot)
3x Black Squadron Pilot (Crack Shot)
QuickDraw Their Fire

>>52724755
Either a Sentinel class shuttle or a TIE Reaper depending on how elite the units are.

>>52724614
YES. YESSS

>>52724614

DARK GREETINGS FOR ALL

>>52724614
Congrats!

Also, why did you draft the Striker? The interceptor was available as well, and had a much more easily-applicable loadout.

>>52724614

AWWW SHIT SON

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Some Raider images for BF2.

>>52724749
We are baby!

Calling it now-

Once per round, when a friendly ship is attacking or defending, you may cancel all of your dice and add 3 (focus) results.

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>>52724945

>>52724945
This is why I want to buy a Raider now.

>>52724749
Does the winner get to design a card or something?

>>52724614
Congratz, you #1

>>52725004
Yes, winner gets to design a card.

TRIOCULUS
will be added.

>>52724924
And never mind, it turns out that the twitter feed that I was following called it wrong. They said Faris drafted first.

Still, I liked the TAP over the Striker.

>>52724951

Trioculus:
Action. Assign the Dark Greeting condition card to any enemy ship.

Dark Greetings:
Any ship with this card, when attacking or defending, turns as many focus results as possible (up to 3) to blank results. These dice cannot be further modified.

>>52725004
>Does the winner get to design a card or something?
They get to make suggestions, really. FFG keeps final say and design.

>running an Old Republic game
>party wants to be empire
>specifically someone wants to play a Sith

What do I need to do here, will the standard FaD stuff work, do I need homebrew, what's up

>>52725048
>winner gets to design a card.
You might want to look into the interviews with the other guys who've won X-wing tournies, it's less designing a card and more giving the guys at FFG a couple ideas and seeing where they take it.

>>52725071
Well FaD would work fine for everyone who wants to Sithish. You might need to change the flavour of some stuff and maybe make your own force lightning. You need either AoR or EoE for normal class

>>52725071

Yeah, FaD will do fine. Morality doesn't take your character away when you go below a threshold, and even allows people to start by playing on the cusp of being Dark or Light right out the gate.

>>52725151

>and maybe make your own force lightning

Harm or Unleash - with Unleash being the best. No, first level scrubs don't get hate beams.

>>52725080
well, that idea is just 'trioculus'

It' doesn't matter what he does.

His card could just say

"Action: Your opponent is forced to remember that Jedi Prince Exists"

And that's good enough.

I'd like some sort of joke about having three focus results/tokens, but w/e.

>>52724614
What was your list again?

>>52725554
It was 77+, he had 3 lists.
His list at Mustafar was FennRau/Asajj/Manaroo

Starting my first FFG Star Wars RPG soon.
a few questions
1: What is the best basic game to get to test the waters with my group?

2: Do the classes/games mix well? If one person wants to do force user and another wants to have a rebel background does can we just have them each use their book?

3: What is the best platform for online play. We are eyeing Tabletop Simulator right now.

>>52725468
And from the depths of my childhood comes the sudden recollection that the Grand Moffs held their Mofferences aboard a Moffship.

I don't know if the world is ready for Jedi Prince to make its glorious second coming.

>>52721652
They've confirmed capital ships and 40AI fighters alongside the 24 players.

>>52725645
1. Honestly, I'd go with the theme you want to run the most - the new FFG Star Wars is /very/ tied to theme. As far as the beginner sets go, I think the Edge box has the strongest adventure of the set. Personally, I find Edge in general a lot easier to run, but I do tend to find Scum/Smuggler games an easier pitch for my groups than Military games. YMMV.
The major consideration is Duty/Obligation/Morality. Whether you want your game to be about standing up and being heroes/pushing the mission parameters to squeeze out some extra good, struggling against a galaxy that actively hates you/waking up every day hunting for your next hot meal, or introspection and reflection on the reasonings for your actions and what provokes you to behave in a certain way.

2. Yes, very very much so. The one thing I would suggest though is to pick a 'game line mechanic' and give it to everyone. For example, if you are running a game where the players are Rebels, give everyone Duty, even if they are playing a Bounty Hunter or a sentinel. With Force and Destiny classes,
I think always giving them Morality to manage in addition to the other mechanic (Duty/Obligation) is actually pretty important in making them play like a Force User rather than a Psychic. Unless the player explicitly request it though, I wouldn't worry about giving the Bounty Hunter in an Age of Rebellion game Obligation as well as Duty though.

- That in mind, don't let them alter both for the bonuses. That is a bad idea.

3. Sorry, can't help you there, I run most of my games in person.

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>>52722901
DARK BLESSINGS FROM THE DARK BOOK OF IMPERIAL JUSTICE

>>52725645
If you have pro in Roll20 its great, otherwise avoid it.
Tabletop is fine if you dont

>>52725645
1) Theyre the same, really. Mostly just comes down to whether theyd rather be nascent Jedi, Rebels/Imps, or Criminals.

2) Pretty much, yes. Mixing Obligation from EotE and Duty from AoR might be an issue, but honestly it shouldnt be that big a deal - might just be a pain to track if theyre all separate.

3) My group use Tabletop Simulator for rolling dice, and then Roll 20 for maps and sheets and shit. You can do dice in R2 just fine, but that costs a not-insignificant amount of money.

>>52725554
My 77 point lists were
-Hera (TLT, FCS, navigator, cassian, ghost, engine)
-Zeb (phantom, autoblaster, chopper)

-Rexler (x7, expertise, mk2)
-Quickdraw (title, draw their fire, FCS, frame, pattern analyzer)

-Fenn (mindlink, title, autothrusters)
-Kaa'to (mindlink, tracers, chips)
-Manaroo (mindlink)

I drafted a T-65 (seismic torp, R2 astro, integrated), Striker (expertise, title, frame), and Quadjumper (conner, spacetug, scavenger, pattern analyzer, intel agent)

>>52726112
Why did you draft the Striker? Did you just want the three attack dice? I would have taken the TAP over it.

Also, that Hera build is hilarious. Cassian+Navigator+engine has to be fun.

>>52719251
They've been whispering about a live action Star Wars TV series. It sounds like it may follow a fighter squadron because of the tech work done in Rogue One for cockpit shots.

>>52719545
Rion Johnson wrote the script, not fucking Hack McMerchandising.

>>52719834
new

>>52726065
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>>52726050
TY for the info.

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>>52720553
muh dick

>>52726147
I like the striker more than the TAP most days, plus 3 natural attack fits better with my list.

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>>52724614

YES! YESSSS!!! YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!! This calls for a mofference!

>>52726112
Is there an official report up for the tourney? I'd love to read

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>>52721695

>>52726281
FFG is tight lipped about System Opens for some reason. Whereas for their regular tourney series, regional and worlds, etc. they usually do livestreams.

>>52726245
I guess DTF makes the lowered agility/defenses less of an issue?

It also said online that it died first thing in the last game, did it prove to be useful?

TIE Reaper for X-wing when?

>>52726465
Eventually.
Not much point though, its a troop transport

I'm having a hard time thinking of of fun environmental things that'll let non-combat characters "fight," does someone have suggestions for facilitating the use of non-combat skills during combat?

>>52726503
It'd make for a nice U-wing/Quadjumper equivalent with a hover maneuver.

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>>52726465
NO CUTTING IN LINE

>>52726549
come talk to me when that shit is canon

>>52721495
Being a pessimist won't get you anywhere nice in life fampai. I imagine they'll do it similar to Call of Duty, wherein the campaign maps and MP maps are similar and share aspects, but with there being more interactivity and re-design in singleplayer.

>>52724418
>>52724165
>>52724239
>>52724296

Vader was worse than evil- he was seen as evil (and he was also evil). He was a black-armored cyborg with a cape and red laser sword for god's sake. And in politics image comes first and substance comes second.

Plus, as >>52724581 pointed out she was a Populist where as those with Imperial sympathies were Centrists. Each party was going to distrust each other no matter what because partisan politics but Leia was screwed because she lost the support of her own party as well.

>>52724614

Congratulations anon. I saw some of you guys playing today, although I have no idea which one you were. I did snap pictures of everyone though.

>>52724945
>>52724964

Maybe it's because it's being forced down our throat one way or the other but I'm starting to like this ship.

>>52726242
This is better than every ship scene in Rebels.

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Say I want to run Rogue One, but more so. What's my system?

>>52726598
For now maybe. That trailer has me pumped up. The hyper jump through the station was cool af

>>52726503

So is the Lambda- and hell, I don't think the Quadjumper was intended for combat at all.

Plus, I'm pretty sure I saw a Reaper shoot down a rebel fighter at least once at Scarif so it can at least put up somewhat of a fight.

>>52726604
AoR, obviously

>>52726604
D6 or AoR, depending on what kind of power you & your players want. D6 has better vehicle rules in my opinion, but AoR would probably be easier to sell to them.

>>52726604
Space battles? WEG works nicer
On planet? FFG

Both systems work for both but I think they are better in those 2 respects. So depending on which element you want to have as the focus, Id say use that system.
Personally, I'm biased and love FFG

>>52726636
>>52726633
>>52726621
it'd be more on-planet and I pretty much want to run it as grim as I can manage.

>>52726670
Definitely >>52726621
AoR is built for this. Grim is just going to be up to you as a GM

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>>52726162
>live-action space dogfights
That sounds like it's going to be expensive, which means it sounds like someone's going to cut corners. Especially if someone needs to throw money at Denis Lawson.

>>52726729
If it's about rebel fighter pilots, they could probably cut costs by having most fo the ground stuff occur at a pretty lacklustre base, without ridiculous level sof set building and CGI that Star Wars usually demands. Just a few prefab buildings and the odd bit of cargo/wiring lying around.

>>52726162
Please god I'd kill for source on this.


>>52726729
True, but if something like Game of Thrones can spend that money and make that money, imagine what a live action SW could make.
Put it on Netflix to work with/jew them a bit, and bam, you've got a recipe for Rogue Squadron the series.

God jesus I can dream

>>52726729
>Especially if someone needs to throw money at Denis Lawson
there's not enough money on earth to get that guy back in an X-wing

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>>52726753
>not enough money on earth
The guys who made the Rogue Squadron II vidya must have come from space, then, because something they did convinced him to do voice acting work.

>>52726750
True, and it would be cool as shit, especially if the /swg/ dream cast, by some miracle, becomes reality. You know what I'd like to see even more, though? X-Wing animu done by the Macross Plus guys.

>>52726800

I'd watch it, honestly.

I wish Japan liked jets more.
Seems like every time someone over there writes a really cool show about fighter pilots, someone goes
WAIT
HOW ABOUT
IF WE MADE IT
ANOTHER FUCKING MECHA SHOW

Like, sure, I can appreciate mecha, but holy fuck there should be more fucking jet fighter shows.
Ree.

>>52726670
>grim as I can manage
I'd say D6 is better for that, vehicles are still strong but aren't as ridiculous as in FFG but D6 can be very lethal if the GM plays his cards right. Stormtroopers can automatically form groups, and groups make nasty on PCs

>>52726750
You won't get one. I just happen to work in the industry. And no, I won't go on the record.

(and no, Denis Lawson wouldn't be involved)

(they'd hire a bunch of unknowns to keep it cheap for 5+ seasons)

What's your favorite location you've visited in your games?

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>>52726909
I loved sending my party to Space Vegas.

Great place for more intrigue and less combat oriented parties

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>>52726821
Not just fighter jets, but space opera and sci-fi in general got cucked hardcore by the mecha genre. Its a damn shame.

>>52726987
not as hard as we got cucked by "strong female characters"

>>52726866

I swear to god anon, if you're lying to me.
I'll be vaguely disappointed and probably never trust again.
It'd be real tragic, you wouldnt do that to me would you?

>>52726987
Yeah, exactly.
Im so sick of fucking mechas all day.
Just give me one fucking new show about jets. Or space fighter pilots.
Fucking anything but more mecha. PLEASE.

Well, Starfighter Inc. (featuring at least one guy who worked on X-Wing vs TIE Fighter. No, not Larry Holland, I checked) got funded.

So that's happening.

Probably sooner than Star Citizen ever released.

https://www.pcinvasion.com/starfighter-inc-fully-funded-kickstarter?utm_source=ReviveOldPost&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ReviveOldPost

>>52726753
It's not money, he wants a major role is all

>>52727312
He called the role of Wedge boring. I just don't think he's ever coming back.

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>>52727224
>sooner than star citizen
Son, I backed Kingdom Come Deliverance back in 2014. In spite of cut features, being funded over 300%, and continuing funding on their site, it still has yet to come out. "Later in 2017, we'll update you soon!" is what they're saying. Let me put it this way. Back in 2014 we were still wondering what was going to happen to the EU canon, and what was going to be included in the new version and what wasn't. I have no hopes for crowdfunded games at this point.

>>52726821
Most people write these scripts, then watch Area 88, and realize they can never do better than that, so they make it a mecha show instead, because that's all shit.

>>52727048
Whispers and rumors are just that, anon. Whispers and rumors. Just like the "I read for Obi-Wan's granddaughter" story Ridley told. Does it mean Rey is Obi-Wan's granddaughter? (Yes, it does.) No. It just means that's how the producers chose to couch the character, largely to display her importance while concealing other details.

>>52727382
By the time it comes out, your computer will actually be able to run it!

>>52726821
Space Opreas are really hard to do in Light Novels and Manga as they take a long time to build their settings and tell their story.
Most the time you will be canceled before you can really get anywhere. That is why battle manga are so popular as they just roll from chapter one.

Since it is hard to get a popular IP of that style rolling it is unlikely an Anime will be done since Anime is almost always produced at a loss as an advertisement for the main product.

>>52724165
>>52724181
>>52724239
>>52724274
>>52724296
>>52724364
>>52724418
The flaws of the Empire were blamed on several key figures, and the institution itself - the fascists within - were elevated.

So any atrocity would be blamed on the Emperor or Vader while the GALACTIC EMPIRE itself just brought peace and justice.

I'm kind of at a loss as to how to continue with my X-wing podcast series.
The first five episodes had been about various expansions (specifically Rebel ships) in order of release. Admittedly, this has been getting boring for me, and the viewers by the looks of the analytics.
My latest episode was based on predictions for Coruscant. It was the longest in the series by far, but also the most popular (Celebration hype is probably partially responsible).
My content mostly caters to middle-of-the-road players, not complete new guys who don't know the game, but not hyper-competitive people either.
I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what direction do I go in from here? I don't think it's a smart move to keep making the boring videos, but that's kind of the safer route because there's a lot of expansions to burn through.

>>52727588
Most manga end because the mangaka gets bored with the subject or has writer's block for more than a couple of months.

>>52726535
Find the skill monkey stuff online somewhere. It's part of the order 66 podcast but 75% of that is shit so don't slog through it just for skill monkey.

>>52726162
They've been whispering about it since 10 years ago minimum.

>>52722901
>>52724614
ALL HAIL THE MOFFRENCE
AIL HAIL TRIOCULUS!

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Id like some conformation on this for battlefront 2

Apparently the third guy is a Republic Officer due to his uniform and blaster pistol.

I know the Republic Army was not ALL clones especially with the Admirals and other volunteers but I have never seen clone officers wear the uniform in anything really. I thought Clone officers had special markings with regular trooper armor or were like ARC troopers with the range finder,markings,extra armor, and kama.