Pathfinder General /pfg/

Asking again. So guys, tell me how stupid this is for world building:
>continent millennia ago began to selectively breed a certain variety of relatively intelligent constrictor snake
>did this in a similar manner to early man did wolves to dogs
>now they do it exactly like dogs
>dozens upon dozens of Var breeds exist, everything from large hunting var, to self defense, to neck var (you wear them around your neck as a fashion statement)
>most the area this was done in was in the massive southern part of the continent that is fucking garbage swamp, rainforest, marsh, and wetland so the snakes do better than a dog would

For this I homebrewed multiple breeds of them for both familiar and animal companions.

>>52627949
Sounds cute

>>52627949

You'd have to substantially change how intelligent snakes are, I mean they'd have to basically behave like dogs.

/pfg/ noob here, at level 7 in my first campaign.

Has anyone here gone off-world in their campaign, whether it be extraplanar or to other planets. If so, where and how was it?

>>52627712
>>52627743

>>52627969
I did make them a great deal more intelligent, because as is snakes aren't smart enough to train or be funneled into selective breeding like this.

My character hit lvl 15
It has been like 6 years since last time I played this high level character

And I have no idea what to do with the build at this point

>>52627979
Why do you do this?

>>52627988

Why do you reply to it? Just ignore it.

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>>52627941
Okay.

>>52627988
He's probably the same faggot that's been witch hunting RoryAnon for a while now. I wish he'd just give it a goddamn rest.

>>52627988
Just want to help out folks get in touch with each other.

>>52627979
Seriously, fuck off.

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>>52627949

>>52627931
Lillends. They're just so cute.

>>52627949

Are there ones you can fuck?

>>52627949
I did this for spiders in my not-asia chunk of the world, and made them much bigger of course. Spiders in stalls at festivals making things out of silk for tourists/whatever the same way people speed draw cartoonist faces at theme parks nowadays.

Only the intelligence of dogs, but now that I think of it it would be amusing if a not-silk road was literally run by spiders.

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>>52627941

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>>52627941
His name is Throta, and he's a Zweihander Sentinel that has sworn to protect the human princess in the party.

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>>52627931
The occasional Chaotic Neutral succubus who uses being called and planar bound as an excuse to not have to do work back home and to faff about on the mortal plane where things are much more relaxed and pleasant, so rather than scheming against her binder she mostly just pulls the occasional mischief and really hams it up whenever she can play to stereotype.

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>>52627274
>>52627832

Also thinking of perhaps doing Half-Elf with maybe Sea Legs and/or Child of the Sea. Anyone have any thoughts, or am I just talking into the void here?

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>>52627941

>>52628077
I'd rather call a Neutral Evil Succubus. Can't stand Chaosfags.

>>52627931
My wizard has the following outsiders around and summoned:
>4 tiefling
>2 imps
>2 bearded devils
>4 hell hounds

Last time I mentioned this /pfg/ bitched at me for being a min maxer. I just love the idea of being a conjurer, specifically a devil binder

>>52628114

Planar binding is just broken in how easily it is gamed. Most of the time players bust it out on DM's and it's one of those "DM has to punish you by learning extra rules" spells, so most get off with it because people can not be fucking bothered to create extra plot threads just for wizards wanting extra stat points.

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I want a lap pillow from her

>run game with darwinian character design
>put PCs in at the start as members of a mercenary company stuck on the wrong side of a siege
>tell players they're expected to bring a number of back up characters, if they don't want to or run out I have a bunch of extras
>PCs start dying left and right
>add in the new ones as other members of the mercenary company
>have the other members be there as the players play their first choice, have other people die as they play so something a player's third choice can die before their first
>keeps happening
>keep getting resupplied with men in secret
>characters rise in the ranks of the mercenary company as commanders die
>character gain odd quirks as some survive longer, survive certain thinks, shoot up in the ranks, or die in funny ways
>a collective story is build of what is left of the company
>do this for three sessions of the city under siege
>when the city is liberated what is left is the new mercenary company and the NPCs for the actual campaign

Had a great time.

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How do I play a giant PC, /pfg/?

>>52628106
The point of non-Evil is to have one who doesn't actually give a shit about demonic power struggles and ambition, and mostly just wants personal comfort.

>>52628209
Chaotic neutral and neutral Evil are the same distance from Chaotic Evil. Either could be equally involved in Abyss shit. I'd much rather have a selfish, criminal waifu that isn't a retard, personally.

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>>52627941

here

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>>52627941

thar we go

>>52627946

Help save this dying thread

>>52628270
aaaaaaaaaa

>>52628270
[autistic screeching]

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>>52627941
I have no shame.

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>>52628281
Who is that?

Also have a ladyknight.

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>>52628303
>Who is that?

Oh boy

Does anyone have a full list of DHB's characters?

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>>52628314
No really, who is that?

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>>52627941

>/pfg/
>"I guess we're an art thread now."

>>52628329
You're in for a ride, anon, but I'll let someone else explain.

>>52628303
The shitheel who dumped his ERP logs to prove his e-dick was bigger than everyone else's. Nearly got him thrown out of a game. No idea why it didn't *actually* get him thrown out, given his attitude since then.

>>52628342
hey man, just roll with the punches

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>>52628342
Have you ever played a completely Chad character?

>>52628329
Post more Awoos

>>52628356
>"what brah, I just rolled all 18s, you saw it"

>>52628342
>/pfg/
>one day it's a shipping thread
>another day it's a smut thread
>another day it's day-trading
>now it's a character art thread
>sometimes they discuss 5e
>there's 4e stuff thrown in

If you don't need any other board because of /tg/, then you don't need any other general because we've got /pfg/

>>52628350
The world may never know, anon.

>>52628361
see >>52628270

>>52628356
Define what you mean by "completely chad".
Like, a Str/Cha build? A womanizing frat boy kind of character? Or just a man who's attractive and mildly popular rather than a spaghetti-dropping shut-in?

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>>52628384
I did mean the second option, yes.

>>52627981
Fixes most of the issues I had with it, the personality is actually supported now, though it's still lacking any real flaws.

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>>52628361
Are cats fine too?

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How do I pic-related, anons? Harbinger w/ Black Seraph and Elemental Flux? I've got no clue

>>52628386
I mean, it's cute, but it's a bit too meme-y for me.

I just want the thread to post more female gnoll art, I've figured out a gnoll character I actually WANT to play

>>52628392
Meh, never really struck me as an interesting idea. Sure, it's an okay concept for a joke, but I need something that's more open to an arc rather than just there to get his dick wet, knawmsayin?

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>>52628420
Yeah, I do.

I always play the Team Dad who never gets his dick wet because his wife is back home waiting for him!

>>52628398
>that art
F

>>52628413
I'd say a Zweihander Sentinel Warder with Eternal Guardian, Scarlet Throne, and Black Seraph. Emphasis on the Black Seraph.

>>52628361
Non-Touhou Awoo art is hard to find, mate.

>>52628442
I'm not jealous, anon. Girls can hold the hands of whatever other girl they want to hold hands with. I just like to pat their heads and tousle their hair.

>mfw I'm the only one in Dragons 2 with NO DRAGON BLOOD AT ALL

>>52627946

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4893511/

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>>52628413

Thinking of posting a game in a homebrew setting, thing is it has no non-human races. How much will PFG ree at this?

>>52628527

sort of like you never should've been picked

>>52628442
Not Roryanon, but I sure am.
Are you telling me you wouldn't be jealous to hold this >>52628353 QTs hand

>>52628509
Obnoxiously so, at that.

>>52628669
To be fair, Rinka only gained dragonblood after she altered her build

>>52628716
Please, we all know where the dragon blood came from.

>>52628600
Speaking of, I want to play a Chaotic Neutral Gnoll girl in a /pfg/ game, to try and make it /work/ as a character concept.

>Be a gnoll girl in a backwater gnoll tribe, maybe a couple dozen members at most
>groomed to become a priestess of lamashtu
>only going along with it because it's what her mom and her mom and her mom and HER mom did before her
>would really just want to smell the roses
>Have special talent with water, which is a godsend in desert environments.
>A slave trader brings in a human priest who ALSO has a talent with water
>gnoll gal's mom thinks this is a good idea
>forces human to teach daughter about water
>daughter learns from this human
>when gnoll gal's mom isn't listening, the human tells her stories about his homeland
>heroic knights and performers who are lauded and loved
>where rivers flow free and water falls from the sky
>where love and kindness get someone further than beatings and slavery
>the gnoll gal has a conflict within herself
>On the one hand, holy heck, that sounded like the best place EVER!
>Not have to worry about water
>Not have to watch slaves get beaten
>smell more roses
>on the other hand
>abandon the tribe (bad thing for a gnoll)
>free this slave (VERY BAD for a gnoll)
>disrespect lamashtu (INCREDIBLY bad for a gnoll)
>the priest finally convinces her to follow her own dreams, uses his magic to free her
>she runs off with her favorite hyena pup to a human village
>is initially mistreated, but uses her broken understanding of common to let them know she isn't a threat
>gets a job with the blacksmith, has to unlearn her gnoll sensibilities
>can't be lazy, can't make others do her work for her, can't worship lamashtu
>ends up with DRIVE and DETERMINATION
>wants to go down in history as a hero!
>Puts on a set of heavy armor, hides her gnoll features, and then goes adventuring

It needs work, I think, but it has potential.

>>52628721
What are you implying!?

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>>52628533

Iskmar Ironbeard
>Typical dwarven childhood
>Joined the militia, patrols Kraggoden
>Squad ambushed and nearly wiped out, Iskmar survived, but was wounded.
>Leaves militia, becomes traveling merchant
>Upon hearing of the Molthuni incursion, he heads to Phaendar to arm the rebellion.

From my cursory examination, there's a misconception among the applicants to BotF that a shorter app is easier to write than a long app, which I think is false. A shorter app is actually far more difficult to write, since you've got much, much less space to convey the same amount of information.

That's the crux of my issue with this app, I can't really tell you anything about him.

What's his personality like? There are a few snippets, but not enough to create a full person. In an app like this, having the backstory be a simple collection of events isn't enough, it's gotta pull double duty as both a backstory and a personality section; revealing the broad strokes of who the character is/what drives them, and allowing the personality section to fill in the details.

Why is he participating in the plot? Is it duty? Patriotism? Revenge?

Also, it's spelled "Molthune"

>>52628729
Strange coincidence that it's red dragon blood...

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>>52628726
Build I'm looking at is... Kinetic Knight/Elemental Scion (of water)/Roil Dancer. The other side (if gestalt) will be Hedgewitch (Spiritualism/Charlatanism), in order to get that performance and "spiritual" angle in, along with the con-based casting as well.

Real-talk, is this art too furry for /pfg/? It's the only art I could find of a "cute" gnoll girl, All the rest is smut of some sort and it kinda fits the image of a gnoll that doesn't WANT to be a villain.

>>52628796
>gnoll
>furry

You don't say

>>52628783
ANON WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING

>>52628773

I'd argue that a shorter app actually highlights the aspect of backstory for an AP basically not mattering at all.

>>52628726
Playing a Gnoll is super fucking disruptive, and basically makes your character nonfunctional in any social situation.

Don't do it.

>>52628785
If I were to know holding her hand would curse me I'd still do it

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>>52628796
>>52628803

anons...

>>52628812
Yeah, true. I'll file it away in the characters I'll play if /pfg/ runs a game that it would make /sense/ in.

The statline works too goddamn well for a Kinetic Knight, anon, I hate it.

>>52628796
I went full furry long ago

I haven't looked back since

>>52628806
I'm implying she might have had help getting that red dragon "heritage" inside her

>>52628806
They're implying that all the other memebers of Dragons 2 should bully Rory for not having any dragon blood.

For pete's sake, even the RAT has dragon blood.

>>52628773

Not the person who wrote the app, but I did ask for the review since I like dwarves. The players guide just asks you to be in Phaendar at the start, that's the only tie in you need.

>>52628834
>Rinka
>The weirdo chuuni
>Shacking up with Jessica Rabbit

This sounds like a bamboozle.

>>52628821
Then play a Dual Talented human like a normal person. Don't fuck over the party by trying to be a special snowflake.

>>52628848
"stop having badwrong fun"
"evil races can never be good"
"you HAVE to murder the orc babies"

>>52628842
>The players guide just asks you to be in Phaendar at the start, that's the only tie in you need.

Right, but unless the AP does an amazing job of making the characters immediately invested, something I highly doubt, the character still needs a reason to constantly risk life and limb participating in it.

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>>52628843
Yeah, you're probably right. A curvy red-headed bombshell would never hook up with a short furry...

Wait a minute.

>>52628848
Nigga if I wanted to play a Human, I'd play a HUMAN. I want to find a game in which I can play a gnoll. Gnolls can be cute!

>>52628856
This guy has it right. I was looking at a Chaotic Neutral Gnoll, not even a special snowflake CG Gnoll Ranger situation. A Chaotic Neutral Gnoll girl, decked out in plate armor, using illusion magic in order to appear like a (very large, imposing) human female? Goddammit anon, it works too well. Especially a gnoll girl trying to BE A HERO

>>52628856
"I want to play a race that's universally known for being the CE servants of a CE deity with no repercussions."

>>52628881
THE LEGENDS ARE TRUE, THE LEGENDS ARE TRUE.

>>52628887
>Nigga if I wanted to play a Human, I'd play a HUMAN. I want to find a game in which I can play a gnoll. Gnolls can be cute!

Your justification is because it works for Kinetic Knight, if you want to play a gnoll because it makes your dick hard, go for it. Just know it's a terrible fucking idea.

>>52628888
"I don't allow Paladins at my table because LG is a bad alignment."

>>52628905
>>52628888
>>52628856

>No, *I* I can make the stupidest comment!

>>52628912
What did he mean by this?

>>52628912
Want to compete? Just post one of your "reviews".

>>52628912
>Funposting is bad because I'm a fucking namefag who thinks he's hot-shit.

>>52628912
HEY

YOU

HEY

YOU

review malta and amias or dont

>>52628933
Who?

>>52628954
theyre in www

Oh, nice. Fangwood closes in 4 days. Kind of short recruitment compared to some other games. Wonder if it'll get a flurry of last minute apps like Legacy did

>>52629016
[sounds of a horrifying meme abomination slowly approaching]

>>52629036
>Jean
>Varico
>General Jelly
>Sapphira
>Grif
>Seth

Fund it, /pfg/

>>52629058
Oh no anon

Oh no

There is more to come

[gnashing of teeth intensifies]

>>52629058
>Jean

reminder that this is Rory's player

>>52629036
>>52629058

Oh... oh no. Can't we distract it with blingmaker?

>>52629072
Oh no

There's no hope

The cabal has already decided that BitF will be memed

This conveniently lets Shardwalkers slide under the radar

>>52629070
I'm at least 50% certain that was a joke submission to jump on the "edgelord" bandwagon.

He can't be serious, can he?

>>52627977
Plane of Positive Energy where everyone is an M. A fun change of pace from our party normally play

>>52628912
Unless you're reviewing, don't have your name on please.

>>52629080

But blingmaker is at least twice as memeable!

Maybe it'll at least be quick and last-minute like legacy got.

>>52629107

BITF also has a 4-5 paragraph limit for the app.

How do I into the bard class

>>52629337
You sign up at the bard college, of course

>>52629080
Shardwalkers is probably a bamboozle though. Looking at it there's 3 days left but the GM stopped answering two weeks ago.

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Hey /pfg/, you want to hear something weird?

Dwarves in pathfinder are completely unsuitable to being cannon crew.
>Two class archtypes designed with cannons in mind. Siege mage (Wizard), and Siege Gunner (gunslinger).
>Both INT based, both rely on dex as a secondary stat
>Dwarves have bonuses to WIS and CON
>Only suitable Dwarven alternate racial trait gives a mere +2 to craft skills
>Favored class bonuses essentially useless
>Elves better in every way

What the fuck?

>>52629620
don't say that it's the only game I have a remote chance of getting into

>>52629673
PF dorfs are not like wh or wow dorfs

>>52629673
because paizo nerfed racial weapon familiarity

i want my bonus to-hit with axes back

>>52629384
I like you.

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>>52629701
I like me too

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>>52628413
>Tfw you'll never read the Quinn-Gnoll logs

Feels bad man

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>>52629834
you're in luck, anon

https://pastebin.com/qFiSA3Fp

Quinn gets split by RORY-sized dongs!

Also why is it so hard to find art for a gnoll character that isn't ugly, but also isn't furry. Like shit man, this is the cutest I could find and it's STILL kinda furry. Are gnolls just cursed to be shit?

even if I want to reinvent them in my own setting as CN tribalists who have particular talent with kineticists, a relatively cordial relationship with other humanoids, and a religion focused on worshipping the moon and plains? Pathfinder Gnolls are SO BORING

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>>52629893
Anon why have you done this to me

Also yeah I've played a few gnolls and I've found the same problems, I might have something for you though.

IDK who the artist is but maybe they have a half decent pic.

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>>52629984
You requested it, buddy.

I also have this pic. It's... Gnoll-ish? Maybe a high-charisma gnoll? I've got no clue, at this point I'm tempted to trawl through e621 and gelbooru in order to find good art of gnolls, but that also comes with disadvantages

Someone needs to run a campaign wherein the players are monstrous races that want to be HEROES so I can play a gnoll knight with a pet hyena >:C

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>>52630022
I need it anon

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>>52630053
It could work. Maybe have custom races for various monsters? Bugbears, Orcs, Hobgoblins, Gnolls, the evil-aligned skinwalkers, kobolds, harpies- what else? A custom setting wherein humans went extinct but are now venerated as gods by the common "mook fodder" races, and this party is on a quest to stop a demonic threat from rising up? One that was originally PUT DOWN by the humans?

>>52629893
>Quinn
>a virgin
Didn't she bang some guy in an earlier scene already? Or was it backstory?

>>52630222
Who cares

>>52630222
She banged Sweettooth in the Shayliss scene

Which is STILL the only scene ever talked about with any memery, and only because of Eiffel Tower memes. Sweettooth is a "literally who" of that game

>>52628386
Quinn is cute! CUTE!

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>>52630280
If the gnonsensical gnoll gnonsens hadn't happened, anon, Quinn would've remained a "literally who?" along with Sweettooth, Aster/Tia, and Saboten, compared to the memeboys Etan and Rubio.

Though, truth be told, /pfg/ needs to come up with a memeparty comprised of two-three memecharacters from every memegame that's been posted.

>>52630338
Wouldn't two to three characters from each game make a stupidly enormous party?

>>52630355
Probably, but you may as well put them to good use.

>>52630338
But it did happen, and self-sacrifice is cute!

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>>52630355
>>52630370
christ

>>52630355
Yeah, I mean, potential nominees are...

FotJR
>Etan, Rubio, Quinn
SotJR
>Casimir, Valeriya, Seht, Onryou
Dragons 2
>Rinka, Rory


>>52630378
>>52630392

gnonsenical gnonconsensual gnoll gnonsense, anon.

it's the only reason you faggots like her. I'm just waiting for that one anon to come by and poke holes in this scene again. Tick tock goes the clock

>>52630355
>>52630370
I think leaking of Aurora/Rory logs was a huge mistake and a breach of trust and Rory should be hanged by his balls for this but I still find this new meme funny.

Send help.

>>52630413

>implying he's not already been burned and busted to shit by the party for this
>implying that the only reason he's still in is because...
>there's no reason for him to still be in.

hrm...

>>52630396
>I'm just waiting for that one anon to come by and poke holes in this scene again.
I assume you're talking about me. The party explained it, and the timeline is consistent. Only issues are
>a what the FUCK is a gnoll doing in Varisia. Like I get LAMASHTU LOL but fucking still that's goddamn stupid
>the entire idea of having Ameiko raped still seems really fucking dickish Especially when it seems like it wasn't a consequence for anything, it was just going to happen regardless of player input
>the entire situation with Ameiko willingly going off alone with some guy who attacked her out nowhere without telling anyone kinda shits on her character.
It's an asshole move, but at least it's kinda consistent. It's just a shit way to put a "tweest" on Runelords.l

>>52630446
RotJR confirmed not to live up to the height of its hype. Once again. Shit game, shit DM

>>52630446
>>52630548
I forgot a few more plot holes
>How did Tsuto somehow manage to beat Ameiko in the first place? She's like a 3rd level Bard at least. Ameiko strikes me as the type to defend herself so a bout between them would've caused a scene and got the guard involved.
>How did Ameiko and the Party miss each other and how did she get their first if the party left before she did?
>Why didn't Ameiko run at the sight of several bodies? Granted, this might be a general Runelord's plothole.

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How do I pic related in Pathfinder?

>>52630613
She wasn't raped by a Gnoll in Runelords. Just beat up by goblins. The Gnoll thing is entirely on the GM's head.

>>52630688
>>52630613
Misinterpreted the statement, never mind. You're right. That probably is on Runelords.

>>52630712
Why are literally the only good PCs in RotJR, both groups, Casimir, Valeriya, Etan and Rubio, and that's it. Explain that for me, theoryanon

>>52630740
I really don't care about any of the PC's that got in aside from Casimir and Etan and that was because I actively disliked them.

Who you consider "good" is up to your own subjective taste.

>>52630773
Be honest anon you don't care about any of the other apps except yours, and you wouldn't even have looked at Casimir and Etan if they weren't frequently mentioned

>>52630892
It was less them being frequently mentioned and more about how they were mentioned and the shitposting surrounding them
>but you're doing that right now anon!
It's happening with me or without me, so I may as well speak my mind.

>>52630591
3pp allowed? Artisan with a specialty in Craft Technology. Frugal Crafting if you can sneak it past your GM.
1p only? Wizard.

>>52630892
>Tfw starting to lose interest in your own apps because everyone else seems more interesting

Spheres of Power question:
How do I play a guncaster? I'm looking for actual mechanical benefits, like boosting bullet damage with spells, reloading via magic, named bullet type effects, etc. rather than just using a firearm as a focus for spellcasting. I'm having trouble finding any options for a character like that.

Can SoP even do that? If not, what can? Aside from Vancian casters, that is.

>>52631108
Check out forrestfire studio's spellburst savant, it has a gun witch archetype

>>52631108
Check out DSP's Marksmen's Kai-Gun Archetype.

As for Spheres. There are effects that up weapon size, increase Accuracy, add elemental effects to weapon, etc.

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Speaking of guns...
My GM allowed me a double-barreled shotgun.
How do I make a STR-based firearms build?

>>52631132
>>52631140
These are both quite good for what I'm looking for. I'll see which one I end up with. Thanks, anons.

>>52631307
Privateer template lets you treat firearm attacks done against an adjacent opponent in all ways as melee attacks, effectively allowing you to add STR to attack and damage rolls.

>>52631307
You don't. You'll be MAD as all get out.

I guess you could make a kinda shitty switch hitter by Going Trench Fighter 3/Savage Technologist.


Or, and I loath to say this.

Refluff a Longbow. I hate saying it. I hate people that say that. But that is probably you're best bet.

>>52631440
Oh, that's a really nice class feature. I can't take it as PoW isn't available, but it's damn nice.

>>52631453
Yeah, I mean, I figured I could just do that, but... It's not the same, you know?

>>52631485
I get you. I really do. In that case
>Trench Fighter 3/Savage Technologist
Is your best choice. Though depending on what firearm rules you're using Gunlsinger 1/Savage Technologist X might do fine too.

>Is flying a few hundred feet above an enemy encampment
>Is invisible
>Pull a bead off of a necklace of fireballs
>Drop the bead
>It hits a tent and explodes
Does this dismiss invisibility?

>>52631595
If there were any people in the tent, yes.

>>52631595
Indirect actions don't dismiss invisibility.
Cutting a rope bridge that enemies are crossing won't dismiss invisibility. Releasing attack dogs won't dismiss invisibility.

>>52631595
>>52631621
Taking any offensive action, regardless if there were people there to observer you or not would dismiss the effect.

>>52631440
How would that actually work in this case?
Would the shotgun resolve as a melee attack point-blank, then do a normal scatter attack on anyone behind the initial target?

>>52631595
Invisibility never gets dismissed no matter what you do.

>>52631676
But invisibility doesn't dismiss if you punch an ally because it only dismisses if you attack an enemy.

>>52631670
I would considering using a magic item designed to be used as casting of fireball as an offensive action. Cutting a rope bridge would use the Damaging Objects rule which constitutes an attack roll or use of sunder which is considered an offensive action and would dismiss the effect.

>>52631595
It wouldn't dismiss your invisibility, but letting go of one of your items would dismiss your flight, because you're no longer one contiguous mass.

>>52631698
After reading the spell specifically, (I don't have everything memorized as it does only state attacking a creature, so yes you can cut a rope bridge for example.)

>>52631696
No attacking an ally would trigger the "The spell ends if the subject attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe."

>>52631698
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/i/invisibility/
The spell ends if the subject attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe. Exactly who is a foe depends on the invisible character’s perceptions. Actions directed at unattended objects do not break the spell. Causing harm indirectly is not an attack. Thus, an invisible being can open doors, talk, eat, climb stairs, summon monsters and have them attack, cut the ropes holding a rope bridge while enemies are on the bridge, remotely trigger traps, open a portcullis to release attack dogs, and so forth. If the subject attacks directly, however, it immediately becomes visible along with all its gear.

>>52631595
instead you should just activate a feather token (tree)
then again
and again
and again
and again
and again
it's not an offensive action and the feather token costs way less than that bead

>>52631733
Ninja'd

Is Lore: Shields too broad of a category? Should I reduce it to Lore: Tower Shields?

>>52631767
Lore: Famous Shields or Antique Shields.

>>52631767
No? How much lore can you figure out on the topic of shields?

>>52631789
>>52631794
I'm just looking to be extremely knowledgeable about shields in general.

>>52631806
I mean craft armor would probably give you the same result and actually still be useful.

>>52631767

Seems fine to me, given it's a subset of armor, but lore's weak and I'm generous on its use.

>>52628773
person that wrote the application here, how much detail do you want?

>>52631829
Yeah, Paizo really went out of their way to make sure that you could only take obscure lore. "You want to know about drow entirely? Nein nein nein! It must be something more obscure like drow matriarchs!"

>>52631845

Not the same guy, and I don't have much time for detail, but I think the largest flaw in the application is that it doesn't talk about who he is so much as what he's done. It's easy to confuse the two and wind up telling a reasonably interesting story that still doesn't talk much about the character himself.

Hope that helps.

>>52631845
He's not the GM, for all you know our grading scale can be entirely different to what the GM wants. Try figuring it out for yourself.

>>52631873
How about we settle and I just have lore on attractive drow women?

>>52630446
>>52630584
The thing that confuses me about the GGGG when it comes to SotJR is this:
Wasn't Val doing her vigilante thing that whole night? How does somebody manage to abduct Ameiko without the Vilderavn at least noticing it?

>>52631108
Deadeye Hexer from Legendary

>>52631886
so he just goes around criticizing peoples characters?

>>52631942
>GGGG
Gnonconsensual Gnoll Gnonsense? Does one of the Gs stand for Gnodachi? Was Quinn really raped by a gnodachi fag?

>>52631985
When they ask him to, yes.

>>52631873
Thing is Paizo doesn't seem to understand that while specialization is the name of the game today, it didn't used to be the case. You don't have a "physicist" or "historian" today, you have a "high altitude terrestrial atmospheric scientist" or a "social historian of Victorian England". But someone like Newton legit knew more or less all there was to know about physics in his day, and it's not inconcieveable that Tacitus would be awarded "Lore: Western History in General".
In other words, unless you're prepared to give this guy near omniscience in one area just for taking the skill...

>>52630773
And what did you dislike about casimir and Etan? Let's hear it, Anon!

>>52630936
I was busy around the time of RotJR recruiting. Explain for me, please?

>>52631988
Gnonsensical Gnonconsensual Gnoll Gnonsense. The Gnonsense of it all requires the redundancy.

>>52631873

Which is really damn dumb. As there isn't really anything between 'I know EVERYTHING about the underdark' and 'I know about drow women with one boob larger than the other'

>>52631924
That's a really good settlement, you should take it.

>>52632016
Thing is it's still only one area like you said, and honestly unless the lore you took was plot relevant, it's not going to be very useful.

>>52632073
There's all sorts of random stuff you can take. Lore:Chemistry, for one, is gamebreaking in the hands of a chemist or enthusiast.

>>52632033
Gno, gno, agnon, we gneed to add in some gnew letters for this gnebulous acronym.

Gnot just GGGG, Gknowingly Gnonconsensual, Gnonsensical, Gnonindicative, Gneedless Gnodachi Gnoll Gnonsense. GGGGGGGG, for short

>>52632108
Gnice acrognym

>>52627931
Ponyboy.

>>52632129
We cagn go further, agnogn. Gniggardly, Gnot Gnice Gno-more, Gnefarious Gnodachi Gno'gooder Gnonsense, Gknowingly Gnogncognsegnsual. GGGGGGGGG, for shortstacks

>>52632176
Stay golden

>>52631676
It doesn't get dismissed. Dismissal's a particular mechanic one does to certain spells.

It DOES, however, *end* the invisibility.
The intent AND result are both important there as BOTH need to be entirely void of offensive results to maintain invisibility.

For example you can wave a sword around. That does nothing.

But: If you stupidly swing it hard enough to chip a brick wall you accidentally hit, Invis offline.

If you actively attack someone, Invis offline.

If you swing FOR someone but not only do they not parry you just idiotically and harmlessly hit air because you rolled a fucking 2 and your total doesn't even reach base 10, Invis offline.

If you drop a normal bead, nothing happens. BUT, if the bead *turns out* to have been a fireball bead (maybe you didn't know; the rogue's a lying fucktard), Invis offline. And if you knew, and threw it, Invis offline. And if you knew, but just "dropped" it so it would hit something? Invis offline.

>>52632426
Scratch that, my bad; accidentally hitting a brick wall would not turn it off. If it's manned though, like to topple a guard tower, then it would.

>>52629675
It's a bamboozle. The GM has disappeared, abandoning their own game in a dumpster as they flee into the night.

>>52632531

Argentum confirmed bamboozle?

I still feel like the game I'm in is a bamboozle.

Not gonna say names, but the GM acts like prepping for a game is something that can cause a nervous breakdown. It's a goddamned AP like seriously you don't even need to read the book that closely we just wanna have fun.

>>52632531
yet again another dumb assumption

argentum literally isnt going anywhere

he ran both games of his games last week and showed up for both his campaigns

all this talk about "bamboozling" just because they dont answer questions on the dot is fucking cancer and actively annoys gms

>>52632559
also fuck you.

>>52632608
but argentum has literally been on the discord/irc and has had conversations with most of the applicants that had questions?

also if you' feel like your "time is being disrespected" drop out bro. id rather that then have to literally call you out for being a sneak-dissing cunt in the threads every fucking week.

this sort of environment is literally fucking awful for a gm.

>>52632608
>Same if you can't stop procrastinating with your college homework and it infringes upon gametime.
THIS! Oh my fuckign shit god of salt this. The number of times someone shows up late or "can't make it, got homowork to do" is fucking atrocious!

>>52632689

It's even worse when it's like.

>delay game

>complain how GM prep is SO HARD

>cut session short early

Like holy shit why do people GM when their lives are in shambles.

>>52632742
It's escapism. Their lives are in shambles so they want to escape to someplace where they have all the control.

Same reason some people play loli kitsune reverse trap butlers, or knife earred anal bead necklace wearing butt rangers, or plan ol' hummies doing plain ol' hummie stuff.

>>52632742
all gms are little flawed
little wounded people
little broken

>>52632776
>>52632789

I get it.

But like if this is your escape you shouldn't act like a bitch about how hard it is to run an AP. That's like basic shit.

>>52632776
I wanna play a knife ear that wears anal beads with a nice butt.

In fact I might just do that secretly with my own knife ear...

>>52632742
Hey I got forced into this seat. I didn't want this.

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>>52632776
This is how I operate. It's not pretty.

>>52632816
this hobby like any creative hobby is just another means to vent all the negative shit we have in our lives

it happens and nobody can help it

>>52633060

Man, 'escape' is a shitty way to play games.

You should be trying to tell stories and fuck around and have fun, not trying to vicariously live a life you like through characters.

Trust me, I lost nearly a decade of my life to that shit.

>>52633100
well
this is the social outcast hobby

>>52633100
>he thinks the two are mutually exclusive
You must be great at parties. Oh wait, you don't go to any cause you're a NERD!

Is it kosher for a cohort to be a class with an animal companion?

>>52633128
Yes, this can be a thing. You GM might try to murder you though by adding to much shit on the screen in combat.

>>52633175
Nah I'm the GM. I already approved leadership to try to salvage the mess of a two man party that is a gnome sorceror and a str based kobold cavalier plus the multiclassed Cleric/Alchemist DMPC they requested after they realized they have no healing

>>52633240
>Strength based kobold.

Shit nigga, what are your players doing? That's like hiring a troupe of chimps to write a book for you.

>Hobgoblins have perfect stats for kineticists
>Gnolls have perfect stats for kinetic knights

What meme bullshit is this Paizo, the two most memed monster races are also the two best at being goddamn fucking kineticists. These faggots, who do they think they are?

>>52633312
It's actually not the worst thing I've seen. He has reasonable damage output between his boar mount's tusks, his bastard sword, and his tail spike, but his main function is to be an AC tank. Most monsters of equal CR are physically incapable of hitting his boar barring a crit.

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>>52628196
Depends.

Where are they from?
What's the campaign going to be like?
What class are they and what goals do they have?

Another BitF app for the wolves.

>>52633510

https://youtu.be/GCAMiaUY7IY

>>52633510
At least it is not another edgelord.

What is the best enchantments for an amulet of mighty fists for an animal companion? (War cat)

I can only think of Impact. It already has improved natural weapon (bite), power attack, and armor profiency for feats. (7th level character)

>>52633810
Mighty Fists enchantments do not work with natural weapons

>>52633810
>Taking armor proficiency
Anon, Mithral Comfort on a breastplate reduces the ACP to 0.
Impact doesn't stack with improved natural weapon. Improved initiative might be a better place to start.
>>52633842
Wait what.
http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicWondrousDisplay.aspx?FinalName=Amulet%20of%20Mighty%20Fists5
>This amulet grants an enhancement bonus of +1 to +5 on attack and damage rolls with unarmed attacks and natural weapons.
It totally does work with them.

>>52633842
The fuck are you on about, of course they do. It's one of the only ways to get an enhancement bonus on natural weapons.

>>52633873
>>52633878
"Alternatively, this amulet can grant melee weapon special abilities, so long as they can be applied to unarmed attacks."
Too bad they can't be applied to natural weapons.

What's the easiest way to be able to wield a two-handed weapon in one hand and a shield in the other with minimal penalties?
I'm willing to dip for it.
Most 3pp stuff is okay, so long as it's not absolutely busted.

>>52633910
Just don't bother, shields aren't worth it

>>52630591
Be the GM, otherwise give it up.

>>52633901
Basic reading comprehension you idiot.
They is plural, and as such refers to special abilities and not amulet. It means that you can only exchange +X on the amulet for special abilities that would work with unarmed attacks.
And pretty much every single melee weapon special ability that is a +X equivalent can be applied to unarmed attacks.

>>52633924
I know they aren't.
But I want the flavor of having one.
It feels off, trying to be the big hulk of steel in the front lines but not having a shield.

>>52633910
Stupendous Strength (DSP)
Pikeman's Training (PoW:E)
Phalanx Soldier Fighter
Weapon Trick Polearm
Or of course, you could do the smarter thing, and grab Shield Brace feat, which lets you 2hand a polearm and wield a heavy shield at the same time.

>>52633953
Play a Warder, then at least a shield will be worth it.

>>52633943
The enchantments themselves cannot be applies to natural attacks.
Literal text.

>tfw all I want is a simple 1pp game without pfs bullshit errata.

>>52633986
"so long as they can be applied to unarmed attacks" does not equal "so long as they are applied to unarmed attacks".

>>52634013
Yes it does if I read it so.

>>52633994

Okay!

What kinda game do you want?

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>>52634023

>>52634038
1pp without bullshit errata from PFS

>>52634023
>If I read it wrong, I am right!

Are you the racial archetypes guy

>>52634051
Hahahaha

Oh anon

there's no escaping from the errata

Have there been any spherecaster apps for BitF yet?

>>52634023
Oh. So you're retarded

>>52634060
who

Gimme a 1-10 on this, anons: an Artistic Summoner Kineticist with a Bestial Kineticist animal companion. The artistic summoner paints her temporary monsters, her Bestial Kineticist hound burns them away when she's done with them. I love the concept but summon monster is iffy, and I really don't want to slow down the table. Summon Monster is also kind of limited in the monsters, you have to pick from a predetermined list. I really wish there was a more generic "Fighting Monster, Tier 1" or "Ranged Monster, Tier 2" for Summon Monster instead of picking from a menagerie, so I could fluff it as I like and make it less of a headache for DM and player alike. Anyone else feel the same way?

>>52633994
>i want to my play video games without patches!

>>52634082
Another retard that showed up the other day, claiming that the archetypes in Blood of the Beast are all racially locked

THey are not.

>>52634101
>without patches
>implying the Jingasa, QRS, Crane Wing, and numerous other changes were remotely good outside of PFS

>>52634120
>implying its worth the effort to undo them.

We just don't care that much

>>52634120
rip scarred witch doctor

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>tfw you've got a voiced game tonight and you're trying to get yourself out of a brain funk before you make a fool of yourself in chat

>>52634142

>voice

>>52634105
i dont have it downloaded so i cant say

>>52634158
>he's retarded

>>52634120
Stop pretending crit immunity was not busted

>>52634101
>implying that analogy works

>>52634132
I just don't use PFSRD, since they fuck up everything with errata.

>>52634171
>1/day
>>>1/day

>>52634142
I remember hearing once from a VA that if you eat a granny smith apple before VAing it can help with audio quality.

>>52634182
Well everyone else in the world does

>>52634190
Says you though.

>>52634184
What of it?
As if you get crit 5 times per day.

Does anyone have any experience with a "Round Robin" AP? As in you get 6 players and each player takes turns being the GM in a given chapter?

>>52634209
Most GM's don't throw mooks that specialize in crits, and yes you can be crit more than once per day, it's random chance, quit your bitching they over nerfed the item. All it needed was a price balance, not orbital bombardment.

>>52634263
But its still an excellent item

>>52634185
That's bullshit, but I believe it.

Is there really only one automatic firearm statted?
Anyone know where I could find more other than the Madsen LMG?
Any 3pp products with them?

>>52634312
What fucking campaign are you using automatic weapons in

You are in the wrong fucking game

>>52634321
It's a Starjammer campaign my dude

>>52634329
Why not just wait for Starfinder, like a normal human being

>>52634329
Disregard Pathfinder, play Dungeons the Dragoning instead.

>>52634321
>muh bad wrong fun

>>52634312
There is also the Maxim.
Additionally, beam weapons in rifle and cannon forms (so not laser pistols, but arc cannons and zero rifles yes) have an autofire mode, but this drains their charges so severely only an emulator such as a warsoul can hope to even use them in this way.

>>52634321
Yeah we certainly wouldn't to use something that's not on Golarion, like rotary autocannons or rocket launchers or the like. I mean, that would be
>TWO OF THE COUNTRIES, ONE OF WHICH HAS SEVERAL ADVENTURE PATHS


.... OH. well would you look at that.

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>That feel when you make it into Hell's Rebels and the overwhelming urge to be a murderhobo starts to take over.

>>52634267
>Still

No it's garbage, +1 deflection and a one time only crit negate for 5k gold. It's shit.

>>52634345
its less 'bad wrong fun' and more 'pathfinder as a system handles this shit extraordinarily poorly, and you would be better served by using another system that has better rules for that stuff'

>>52634267
>Deny one crit ever
>Item is now a shitty ring of deflection

Wooooow

>>52634340
Because it's a paizo product and will be total shit.

>>52634342
My group prefers PFjammer over DnDjammer due to the 3pp content available.

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>>52634340
>implying it'll be any better
>implying there even WILL be autofire weapons, when the spacebow will probably still top the charts instead
>Why aren't you refusing to play anything until this summer anon

you are a very special kind of scum.

>>52634363
If you believed that you wouldn't be here. PF does everything poorly anyway

>>52634312
>>52634329

Aren't there PF Starjammer books? Could have sworn I saw ads for them on the SRD.

>>52634363
Every single person here is here because everybody else they know goes "but just play pathfinder".

And chances are anon's party is still mostly swords and bows.

The automatics might be really crappy weapons but you CAN build for them in a few ways that will be viable.

Not that people who hate fun would know anything about that beyond 'it must be heresy'

>>52634376
>My group prefers PFjammer over DnDjammer due to the 3pp content available.
But I didn't even mention DnD.

>>52634404
That's what my group is playing, anon.
It's pretty good. We've got some gripes with it, but we just fixed them.

>>52634401
PF does a lot of shit badly, but it does some things worse than others

Guns are one of the worst

I tell people looking to play 'low magic' campaigns the same thing, Pathfinder is not the game they're looking for, play something else

>>52634414
Haha, wow, "Dungeons: the Dragoning" is an actual thing. Learn something new every day.

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>>52634340

Anon, that's four months from now, minimum.

>>52634444
I'm running a campaign right now. The system is actually pretty great.

>>52633873
Breastplate gives ACP of -1, not 0. You only get -3 from Mithral, masterwork is included in that.

>>52634444
It's an odd combination of the roll/keep system and world of darkness.

The weapon creation system is completely borked, I'd wager Overheat is still retroactive retardation, and there's a very clear bias towards maximum-melee, but overall it's relatively decent; we've seen far far far worse.

>>52634418

And they don't include resources for automatic slugthrowers? That kind of sucks.

>>52634477
Well, that's why I came here asking for them, you know?

>>52634493
Sadly, the "advanced firearms" out of Rasputin Must Die are it.

Its almost like you would be better off ripping rules from another d20 system like the starwars d20 system

Just a stray thought.

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>tfw wanted to do a "scene" with one of my fellow players but they haven't been online all week.

>>52634646
Give us a hint as to which game?

>>52634656
It's not a /pfg/ game. Sorry, no memes to be found here.

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>>52634646
I know that feel.
I know that feel all too well.
I'm starting to feel like I might just be getting boring and annoying to my whole group.
Just like everyone else.

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>>52634646

Happens sometimes. What sort of video games do you enjoy?

>>52634646

>tfw no longer want to do 'scenes' with fellow players because they're degenerates with paper-thin characters and I need story and a partner that feels 'real'.

>>52634756
>tfw you had the beginnings of a good buildup, but it all got uprooted before anything could develop
>tfw trying to do something just over PMs feels kinda hollow without the greater context of the game to stage it in

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>>52634703
>>52634646
>>52634756
>TFW even in fiction you still only drive people away

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>>52634830
>>52634756
>>52634839
>tfw you have years of ERP experience and are now enjoying using that experience to have great ERP with people in your game

>>52634877
Don't start, my google searches are already bringing up the National Suicide Hotline at random as it is.

>>52634464
Comfort reduces by a further point, taking it to 0.
Alternatively, there's Fusing (DSP), or a Steelbone Frame.

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>>52634877
>tfw zero interest in comfy, lewd or erp but afraid of offending other people by denying it

>>52634918
Ain't nothin to be ashamed of there

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>>52634918

Yeah, not really my thing, either-wouldn't worry too much about offending people, though. A polite refusal and explanation tends to do the trick.

>>52634877

That should be me. I've got tons of experience but it's been a few years.

But I find everyone else way undesirable.

>>52634877
Would you be willing to be my sempai in the streets and sensei in the sheets?

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>>52634877
Man, easy there with the cucking, the guy might actually off himself.

That being said it definitely does feel good to have years of ERP exp and using said typefucking skills in games.

>>52634703

Just PM them! If they're /pfg/ goers, the absolute worst they'll do is decline!

LoBaF starts tomorrow. Now's the time to place your bets for ships.

>>52635001

Why would they need a ship in the desert?

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>tfw you just want to go on grand adventures with your dear comrades-in-arms but every single game that looks good ends up being some sort of ERP circlejerk
>tfw you want to dodge traps like swinging scythes and spikewalls, not queers in makeup
>tfw you want to listen to the evil villain's monologue but instead have to listen to runny cunnies and """flirting"""

Lets say I wanted to play a bomb alchemist that also dabbled in melee from time to time, maybe saving his mutagen for such an ocassion rather than using it to stack dex bonuses for his bomb throwing.

Will this alchemist end up gimped if I wanted to use weapons instead of feral mutagen?

>>52635009
Nigger, you've never heard of a sandship?

>>52635010

The flirting is really cringey and outta place.

The characters periodically abandon important things to get laid.

It's shit, guys.

It's really shit.

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>>52635010
You are such a McFaggot.

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>>52634967
Thats no fun :(

>>52634972
Always

>>52634982
Can't stop won't stop

>>52635010
>>52635042

I'll take things that don't happen for 500 alex