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It's about damn time Edition

>old thread:
>>52538610

>resources
pastebin.com/qCZb0mvh

>General's Handbook pdf
mega.nz/#!DxRGmTZL!x_L0eobCjr4qrF7enhVlZ2DffTtRa3hdDrc5RctcAbE

>army builder
scrollbuilder.com
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>>52549589
First for Nurgle!
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>>52549589
Second for the sneaky, stabbin', cunnin' grots!
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New to age of sigmar. If I take a battalion with heros and battle line unites do they count towards the minimum battle line I need to take?

Here is the skink list I am thinking of:
Skink chief -60
Skinks -80
Bastilidon - 300

Shadowstrike starhost
Skink priest - 100
Skinks- 80
Chameleon skinks -120
Ripperdactyls - 140
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>>52549589
So can I preorder my boys this saturday or WHAT?!
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>>52549667
No not this saturday. Maybe next saturday.

This saturday is just the newcromunda box terrain they are selling in separate kits.

I know. I'm chomping at the bit, myself.
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>>52549687
Champing. You're champing at the bit.
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>>52549734
While champing is technically the correct one, chomping is used often enough that it is considered acceptable too. Mainly because 'chomp' is used outside of this idiom, but 'champ' isn't (at least in the same context, because champ also can be short for champion). But I digress.
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>>52549626
Moonclan best klan.
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>>52549781
All the grots are cool, man. Why you gotta bring the Klan into it?
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>>52549687
hoping we get some sorta mordheim spinoff with some terrain. Would be good time to introduce new houses cause they disconnected the older ones.
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>>52549626
M O O N C L A N
O
O
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C
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Elves when?
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>>52549808
God yes. I think Shadows over Hammerhal was just the beginning, and they are testing the waters with newcromunda.

One thing's for sure, fucking Underworlds: Shadespire is not it. Doesn't even fucking come close. What a disappointment.

But I think we will likely see the same treatment Necromunda got with Shadow War: Armageddon. Pretty much a recycling of the rules, but expanded to include a bunch of kits from several of the factions.
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Ardboys, give them shields or?
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>>52549857
Just to double-check - Newcromunda=Shadow War, right? There's not Yet Another New Project that I'm unaware of that we're referring to?
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>>52549898
Are you using them as a tarpit or screen? If so, yes. Lets them survive longer.
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>>52549901
Yeah. Newcromunda is a nickname for SW:A. Seeing how SW:A uses the exact same rules and system as old necromunda did, just expanded to include several kits from most of the 40k factions.
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>>52549898
If you want them mostly to score objectives, give all of them shields. Even if you want to use them offensively, it's not guaranteed you will pile in with all of them so a few with shields to stay back and get wounds allocated to them should be handy. Offensively dual wields > two handers in most cases, afaik two handers are only better against 2+ saves.
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>>52549910
Figure I'd just throw them at guys to hold them up so the Brutes can bash their faces in. Speaking of which... it might be an idea if I give at least one unit of Brutes hackas to reach over Ardboys.

I'm only doing a 1k list though, so maybe I don't need reach with units of 5 Brutes.
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>>52549661
Anyone have any input on this?
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>>52549941
5-man Brute units don't need hackas. At 10+ it's pretty much mandatory. Also if you use a 10-15 man Brutes unit you should make their boss your commander, Inspiring presence is very valuable on them because Bravery is their main weakness.
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>>52549626
M O O N K L A N
O
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>>52549977
GOBLIN DEATH SQUADS
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>>52550010
>>52549977
>>52549781
Fuck off
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>>52550020
>triggered by joking about a LARP organization which is pretty much a joke itself already
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>>52550048
Don't mind him, he's probably just a triggered digger upset that he knows in his heart of hearts that the Bad Moon will rise again!
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>>52550106
>>52550048
You continue to not be funny
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>>52550120
If you ain't a digger, leaves only one option. We don't take kindly to your folk 'round here. Might be best if you just keep movin' on.
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>>52550139
Not only are you not funny but you're one note
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>>52550150
Eh, given the other Moon Klan posters in this thread, just one part of an orchestra. Deal with it, fag.
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>>52550150
SigmarineFag
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>>52550167
I play Grots. You're /pol/tier humor fails to impress me.
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>>52550179
If you play Grots, then why are you a sigmarinefag?
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Red skin orruks, blue skin orruks, or black skin orruks.

What should I do?
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>>52549898
Give 3 of them shields per 10. Put them in the back and take mortal wounds on them to keep them away from your standard/drummer/boss.
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>>52550208
Do you like Warcraft? Then go red.
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>>52550208
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>>52550219
I don't care too much for Warcraft, though I do play Hearthstone.
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>>52550230
I was mostly going for the Peter Jackson very dark orc color. Maybe with bright orange armor for a huge contrast.
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>>52550236
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>>52550208
Red, definitely.
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My list:

Heroes

Moonclan Grot Shaman x1 (60)
Gitmob Grot Shaman x1 (80)
Orruk Warboss x1 (140)
- Waaagh Banner


Battleline

Gitmob grots x40 (200)
- Bows
Moonclan grots x20 (120)
- Spears
Orruks x20 (200)
- Spears
Orruk Boarboys x10 (200)

Total Points: 1K
Total Wounds: 128
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>>52550208
Blue skin Orruks.
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>>52550250
>Moonclan

Bleh.

Also, Orruks fucking suck. Use Bonesplitterz or Ironjawz instead.
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>>52550236
>>52550255
Blue skin + orange armor would go well together.
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>>52550262
What's your problem with Moonclan? Did they lynch your bearded wife under the Bad Moon?
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>>52550273
Ironjawz don't abide grots, you runty git. Least of all racist ones. Leave the supremacy to the Ironjawz.
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>>52550262
I like Orruks more, naked Orks look unpleasant and Ironjawz feel too 40K.

Moonclan got nerfed, but they're still ok.
Is it better go stabba than spear?
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>>52550281
>and Ironjawz feel too 40K.
Soooo what?
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>>52550106
>digger

You mean endrinrigger.
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>>52550281
You can reach melee with 3 ranks of Grots on 25 mm bases if you use spears.
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>>52550281
>Moonclan got nerfed
h...how?
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>>52550281
Spear always
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>>52550267
They'd remind me too much of the Mets.

Who I root for, but I don't want anyone knowing
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>>52550290
FAQ says that they aren't allowed to use more than 3 nets per 20 models.
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/AoS_Errata/warhammer_aos_destruction_en.pdf
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>>52550306
That's not really a big nerf. Having to release all fanatics at one in a unit was more severe, but both of those "nerfs" are justified and understandable.
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>>52550281
>naked Orks look unpleasant
Are you a homo?
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Hey guys, anyone have scans or a pdf version of the Shadows over Hammerhal rules? I'm mainly interested in using the GM-ing rules and porting them over to Silver Tower and it would be quite nice if any of you can help me out. Thanks in advance.
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>>52550321
>Not really a big nerf
I wonder how those guys buying tens of those sets feel now, now that their all-net strategy died in tournaments.

>>52550327
I like my Orruks in clothing and at least somewhat tame.
Savages are the savages of the green race.
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Gimme the free peoples GW
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>Bloodreavers nerfed to 70 points
>Khorgorath nerfed to 100 points
I'm pleasantly surprised GW actually care enough to do minor correction like these.
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>>52550371
New GW doing new GW things.
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>>52550359
You already have Scions and AdMech
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Morghasts, useful as part of a general Death army or no?
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>>52550406
too expensive
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Can anyone redpill me about the dwarves?
Why should I pick Dispossessed if I can pick Free Peoples?
Are mountain manlets any good in AOS?
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>>52550634
>Can anyone redpill me about the dwarves?
Legacy army
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When do the sky bastards get released?
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>>52550634
>Why should I pick Dispossessed if I can pick Free Peoples?
Because you like their aesthetics better.
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>>52550634
just wait for the news sky dwarfs
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new Rumour engine out
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/04/05/rumour-engine-april-5th-2017/

Cthulu elf fag hype
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>>52549661
Yup
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>>52551018
Ooh.
Giant ammonite?
Nautical theme?
This is relevant to my interests, even if it's an army I don't play. I live on the coast, and something naval or sea-themed for AoS would be absolutely ballin'.
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>>52550406
Morghast Archai are very useful as a summoning option with a +/- 75% to hit a charge right away. I use em with Arkhan.

The Harbingers are fine for taking out big guys and I like their abilities. They could do with a slight point reduction tho, especially now that Khorne had their Khorgoraths buffed. 100pts per model seems fair.
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>>52551190
Fishmen 2032 confirmed
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>>52551224
There was a fanmade fishmen supplement for Blood Bowl, so there is precedent.

Extremely distant, unlikely, and dubious precedent, granted, but precedent nonetheless. It's just at the bottom of the list of likely things.
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>>52551018
who says it's a shell? It could be a tentecle or a tounge
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>>52551268
This is also a possibility.
It could even be a giant fantastical limpet on a skaven or grot or whoever else sky-ship!

We just don't know. I say we wait and see.
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hey guys, do we have the points table from the khorne battletome?
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>>52551018
looks like slaanesh
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>>52550371
Reavers have a save now. That's a huge deal. A mob of 40 guys can have mystic shield and khorne prayers and cover.

Khorgorath does double its previous damage now
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>>52550406
necropolis knights are almost strictly better
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GIVE ME NEW SHIT REEEEE
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>>52551432
gimme some new start collections as well
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>>52549667
Well the WD says preorder on the 8th so...yes?
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>>52551018
accidental pun crossed my mind, Ghost in the shell reference ? probably nothing but it would be awesome to have some See-Death faction. Still thinking it's for elves tho
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>>52551527
WD has been wrong before
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>>52551190
SPOOKY PIRATES
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>>52550281
>feel too 40k
what and sigmarines don't?
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>>52550371
>>52551397
were do i read about this and what do you do about it being wrong in the general handbook?
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>>52550208
Red/orange skin makes me think of Dark Messiah. Not necessarily a bad thing.
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>>52550634
Sturdier gunline, if I remember right. Even your ranged troops can make shield walls to reroll all failed saves. Quarrelers are only one point worse in melee than the basic warriors.
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Do these guys really worth 140 points for 10?

I'm reading the warscroll and they don't seem that impressive.
Am I missing something?
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>>52551932
yeah dwarfs are stated awfully
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>>52551018
ghost ship would be sweet
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>>52552004
>basic troops hit 3+/4+/-/1, reroll all failed saves, halve fleeing models, ignore magic on a 5+, and reroll failed wound rolls of 1 during the opponents turn, or all in groups of 20+
>statted horribly

Pick one
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>>52551613
terrible pun
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Have the novels gotten good are they still pretty mediocre with some shining moments of good character writing?
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>>52551460
This, I want some start collecting boxes of more of the classic armies, like grots and ogres and elves
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>>52551895
you can use whichever version you want, just let your opponent know which one
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>>52551976
Theyre both melee and ranged, and have a 6+ ignore

Theyre pretty good for a basic infantry unit
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>>52552087
>t.Empirefan
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>>52552085
>Have the novels gotten good
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>>52552107
ty
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>>52552087
You will have one soon: >>52551018
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I just watched this https://youtu.be/EQPfJahmt1A

its really good, his math is perfect.

t.engineer
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Reminder that:
Chaos = Leftisim
Khorne = outrage culture
Slaanesh = degeneracy
Tzeentch = dishonest intellectuals
Nurgle = acceptance
Chaos worshippers = SJWs
Daemons = illegal immigrants = They need to go back
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>>52552311
Not true, as Chaos Dwarfs are an industrial and honorable people!
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>>52552311
>Chaos worshippers = SJWs
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>>52551018
At first I thought it was a shell but it's clearly a tentacle, so we definitely have confirmation of CTHULU DARK AELF
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There should have been five Grand Alliances.
Chaos
Order
Death
Destruction
Aelf

Aelves combined with the rest of Order overpower it too much.
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>>52552396
Nah. Save that shit for 40k.

The only thing I pray for is that Shadow Aelves will never join Chaos. And they give Slaanesh her own Aelves instead.
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>>52552350
>Well dressed black men on the side of Order
>Thug niggers on the side of Chaos

It fits.
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>>52552444
>nigger dressed as white man with white man weapon
>not SJW
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>>52552375
thanks for clearing that up for us anon.
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>>52552477
You realise that SJWs are the ones who get upset about people dressing up as people of other cultures, right?
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>>52552396
Elves aren't a metaphysical concept, doesn't fit the theme at all. They're just a race.
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>>52552550
yeah it would be like having skaven as one grand alliance.
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>>52552550
But none of the grand alliances actually fit a concept.
They're all just grouped together based roughly on the relations they had on the old world.

Chaos isn't particularly chaotic and Order is not especially ordered. Destruction don't embody any concept other than being armies of savages, and Death isn't even about death but rather the polar opposite, undeath.

>>52552573
It would not. Skaven were a singular army and never as popular as elves. Elves are big enough to support their own alliance. As an alliance Order is far bigger than all the others.
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When apocalypse rules for AOS?
I mean battles with several people and several thousand points
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>>52552622
fair enought i just thought because of all the clans and stuff would be like different races of elves.
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>>52552422
Slaaneshi chaos elves is my dream army
If they announced it my penis would be like a steel beam
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>>52552511
>You realise that SJWs are the ones who get upset about people dressing up as people of other cultures, right?
Only if white people doing his
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>>52552396
>Aelves combined with the rest of Order overpower it too much.

Aelves are literally shit tier no matter what kind you take or list you make.
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>>52552622
>They're all just grouped together based roughly on the relations they had on the old world.

more like order corresponds to D&D lawful alignment. Even dark elves. (they follow their own laws, not the laws you want them to follow)
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>>52551876
eh what?
I don't play Sigmarines, my list is clearly about Orcs & Goblins
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>>52553076
>t."I love WHFB armies"
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>>52552350
To be honest I actually like that GW is doing more skin tones besides white. The thing is that this is an entirely new fantasy setting where anything is possible, so it's not far fetched to see nonwhite people at all. Not only that, but the thing that separates GW from SJW fags is that they don't come out and say how amazing and wonderful they are for painting black and Asian characters. They just paint them and don't even make a big deal out of it. Which is perfectly fine in my opinion.
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>>52553112
I don't mean the faction, I literally mean Orcs and goblins.
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>>52553164
>I don't mean the faction,
So as I.
>I literally mean Orcs and goblins.
So what's the problem with Ironjaws?
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>>52552311
Nurgle's schtick is acceptance of your place in the world, shunning progress and embracing familial love which is all pretty much right-wing values but nice try.
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>>52553196
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>>52553404
Wut?
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>>52552660
The game is already all about moving hundreds of models towards the center of the table and rolling dice, it's nailed the apocalypse experience.
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>>52552085
There are a couple that are good. The Legends of The Age Of Sigmar Pestilens book is great, it has some fun humor in it too. Warbeast is a fun romp, with some cool connections to the Old World. Lord of Undeath has some neat developments and insight into the Death characters. City of Secrets is ok, but the descriptions of the city really steal the show.
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>>52553196
I just don't like the futuristic look.
Nor on the Ironjawz, neither on the Sigmarines.
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>>52553774
>Ironjawz
>futuristic look.
You wut?
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>>52553789
Too much armor, too big helmet.

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120209033_Ardboyz01.jpg
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>>52553821
>literally black orcs from whfb
>they are basically full plate armor made by orcs
>futuristic
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>>52553821
>https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120209033_Ardboyz01.jpg
It's black orcs
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Could anyone clarify a rules question for summoning in matched play?

Summoning 5 Dire Wolves during the game will cost me 60 points, their warscroll states if I roll 10+ I can set up 10 Dire Wolves instead. Would I need to pay 60 additional points for the other Dire Wolves, or are they a bonus for rolling well?
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>>52554258
You have to pay
You just get more bodies off one cast
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Does anyone have any chaos characters that needs a name? If so then roll six D6 and I will generate a name and a title for him/her. Just tell me beforehand wich of the gods they follow or if they are unalinged.
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>>52554706
Khorne
Too lazy to type
5
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>>52551018
>elf fag
what is this? ever time I visit this place its non stop people calling people who like elves fagots.
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>>52554706
dice+1d6
Sorcerer unaligned
dice+1d6
Khorne
Demon prince
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>52554851
Wow didn't work
Trying again for sorcerer
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Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>52554851
And for Khorne Demon Prince
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>>52554851
>>52554864
>>52554878
>roll six D6

As in 6d6
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Can't wait to get to those kharadron frigates. You can paint their supremacy mines white to have "white supremacy mines". It'll be such a pleasure to watch theese black dragons suffering dozens of mortal wounds!
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Rolled 1, 5, 1, 4, 5, 5 = 21 (6d6)

>>52554903
Fuck son ok
Rolling for each
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>>52554903
2nd one
Unaligned sorcerer
First was demon
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>>52555044
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I can't believe you niggers are doing some daft shit instead of discussing the new rumor engine
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>>52555087
I give up
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>>52555103
What the death squids?
Definitely will be death pirates
New Pirates of the Caribbean right around the corner
Makes sense to cash in on that popularity
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Rolled 2, 4, 5, 1, 1, 1 = 14 (6d6)

>>52554706
Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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>>52555018
Ok this is!
>Huron The Reaver

>>52555126
And this is!
>Sighar Paingiver
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Gheeaslt trmeufter that empirical even five is for Cucks.
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>>52555238

>Threeadly
>Reminder
>Emperocal evidence.

Fuck I need to not pot when I'm drunk.
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>>52549589
huh? are the Kharadron Overlords just dorfs in battlesuits?
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>>52555322

No they are Duardin(tm)
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>>52555167
>Paingiver
Let's hope he lives up to that name!
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Rolled 3, 1, 1, 3, 2, 4 = 14 (6d6)

>>52554706
Tzeentch Chaos Lord
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>>52555322
They're not battlesuits. They are environmental suits. They are a race of duardin that live among high altitudes where there are all sorts of dangerous gasses, including the aether-gold they collect and refine, which helps power all their ships, weapons, and filtration systems on their backs.

They escaped to the skies during the age of chaos. and have been living up there since. The age of sigmar and the arrival of the stormcast eternals has promted them to rejoin the conflict below.
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>>52555422
His name shall be:
>Morgul Warp-Born
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>>52555437
I like it!
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>>52555428
I'm curious, are they joining the fight out of honor to help Siggy or are they just looking for plunder?
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>>52554706
How do you generate the names? do you have a random table? and if so, can you show it?
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>>52555523
Both
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>>52555557
I am using the name generator that is in Path to Glory
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Reminder that the adepticon 2000pts championships had each grand alliance in the top 5
Reminder that the game is pretty balanced and you are just bad
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>>52555523
Both.

They are governed by a code. A set of edicts that ensures their survival and hunt for profit. It's a meritocracy. So when the big order cities were built, they saw an opportunity for trade and profits because there are now sprawling human cities.
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>>52555523
>>52555558
>>52555627
Dwarfs were always humanity's greatest ally :^)
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updated. I can't help but think the last few are related somehow...
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>>52555120
And they are re releasing the Mummy this summer too.
Doesn't mean tomb kings are coming back.
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>>52553473
Ass hole
but I keked
There can be more tactical play. When to commit to charges, order of resolution is big, scenarios force different conditions on you, etc.
It's not unlike 40k or 30k, where any mission without an objective (and some armies even then) involves shooting armies squatting at max range removing while units at a time.
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>>52552121
And can be bolstered by the most common hero type in a Tzeentch army. Being able to shoot while in combat is a bigger benefit that most forget.
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>>52555606
>each faction has at least one new release that made it to the top 5 at adepticon

ftfy
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>>52555882
The death list was soulblight
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>>52555900
haha nice. Where can i see the winners lists?
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>>52555585
Thanks
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>>52555882
>Death
>new release
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>>52555900
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>>52555900
The one which came 2nd was TK. But there were two other Death players in the top 10, both of them run mixed Death, and only one of the lists had a Necrosphinx.
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>>52555555
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>>52555971
>Dunning–Kruger dogshitter
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>>52556001
whatever you have to tell yourself to feel better at night is fine by me.
t.engineer
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>>52554706
Name my Nurgle Daemon Prince!
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Rolled 3, 5, 6, 5, 6, 1 = 26 (6d6)

>>52556062
And then call me a retard!
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This Chaos list was the 11th, losting to the winner (18 Skyfires :^)) in the final round.

140 Harbinger (Cunning Deciver Trait, Chaos Talisman)
120 Mounted Chaos Sorcerer (Crown of Conquest)
540 28 Chaos Warriors
60 10 Marauders
60 10 Marauders
60 10 Marauders
180 5 Blightkings
180 5 Blightkings
140 Plaguetouched Warband
240 Belakor
160 Sayl
120 Reinforcement Points (Options Below)
10 Plaguebearers (100)
10 Chaos Furies (120)
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>>52556023
>having anosognosia this bad
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>>52556128
>being this desperate to feel good by insulting others
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If I have an Engine of the Gods, do I have to set aside summoning points for its 14-17 result on the off chance that it will kick in?
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>>52556215
Yes.
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>>52555694
Last four scream death ship to me
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>>52556240
Maximal faggotry.
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>>52556023

>t.engineer

>plebest of non CS STEMs
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>>52551397
why in the name of khorne would you even use a magician in an army of the blood god ?
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>>52556517
Slaughterpriest?
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>>52556560
mm good point, but he doesn't have any power on his own, khorne give him boons when he feels like it
does priest can be considered magician in age of sigmar ? a truly wondrous question
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>>52549661

Skinks are fucking terrible, even if backed up by big monsters. If you're going for a fluffy skink list, I would add a steg or take terradons as opposed to rippers. Rippers can be brutal but you have to use them incredibly carefully. Terrodons, in general, are more useful.
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>8 blood tithe to summon a unit you paid points for
Why is this the max choice again exactly?
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>>52556345
CS majors are the worst brainlet tier
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>>52556699
Not really
He just has a tin can on a string that happens to go straight to Khornes ear
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>>52556836
The same reason Bonesplitterz has a Battalion which brings back dead units on a 6+: Open/Narrative play.
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>>52556903
This game is about matched play and anyone that says otherwise is a fucking slug with downsyndrome
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>>52557017
>Not doing open/narrative play
If I wanted to do matches play I'd play 40k, thankfully GW is helping out casual players interested in playing stories, not games with barely sociable autists who run 15 of the same $90 unit
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>>52557017
NoFunAllowed.jpg
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As a matched player, I do miss the days before the GHB, because now we have spergs like this >>52556903 in our ranks, and there's really nothing we can do about it.
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>>52557017
I'm all for competetiveness and tryhard listbuilding (though the current state of 40k with TauDar and shit is abominable even for me), but I don't mind if other people want their own ways of playing where full optimalization/balance is secondary to having fun.
Fighting against a bunch of Necromancers who try summon hundreds of points worth of models per turn and trying to kill them against all odds sounds like a fun narrative scenario. On the other hand shit like that is fucking hard to balance for competetive play.
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Rolled 1, 2, 3, 6, 1, 2 = 15 (6d6)

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>>52557257
What did I write which was spergy? There are a lots of rules which are obviously written with open play in mind, those two were prime examples of it.
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>>52556861
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>>52557427
Sorry, I meant to link to >>52557017

My mistake.
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>>52557333
I'm guessing you want a character named, and since you didn't specify a chaos god, I assume you want an unaliged title

>Drokrimm the reaviled
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jesus fuck just gives us new aos shit already

PLEASE JUST A NEW ARMY OR UPDATED BATTLETOME OR SOMETHING
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>>52549589
Age of smegmar general which grand alliance should I play?
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>>52557462
Kharadron Overlords are up for preorder next weekend.

We've actually had a pretty good year of AoS so far.
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>>52557480
Destruction
All other grand alliances are full of gays
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>>52557480
How edgy are you on a scale of 1 to 4? Do you care about winning at all costs? Do you like sucking penises?
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>>52557480
Destruction.
Order is filled with human pussies and smelling sissy aelfs.
Chaos has garbage models, most of them are targeted for horny 14 year olds.
Death's roster is too small.

>DRUMPF WON!!!!
Ummm... no sweetie, he lost by a massive margin. Hillary Clinton won by over SIX MILLION votes.
She is the true winner. She is who the American people chose. Any time a drumpf supporter tries to brag, I laugh HARD in their face, and educate them with the facts. It feels good being on the right side of herstory. Drumpf is literally the least popular candidate of all time
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>>52549773
Huh. TIL. Thanks Militant Grammarian.
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>>52557530
Lets say hypothetically that im pretty edgy and enjoy sucking penises. What would you recommend?
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>>52557530
I just want to have fun mostly desu senpai
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>>52557706
Death.

>>52557713
What is your definition fun in an army?
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>>52557706
Death Skellies
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>>52557480
Chaos, Chaos Dwarfs specifically
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>>52551018
Tyranid Nautilex
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>>52557706
gay vampires ?
naked horde of khornate barabrian ?
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>>52557706
sounds like a sigmarine player to me!
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>>52557706
>Edgy
>Likes sucking penises

Gee, I wonder.
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>>52557849
Why are posting the symbol of the Horned Rat?
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>>52557779
Not a real army
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>>52557885
That's not the symbol of the horned rat.
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>>52557849
That character doesnt exist in AoS
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So I love looking at this picture because we are getting to see more details of this kit. How big do you guys think that base is?
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>>52557907
IMPOSSIBLE
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>>52558120
You better believe it, pal
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>>52553076
what i meant was ironjaws are pretty tame compared to sigmarines.
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>>52555694
I'm hoping the last few turn out to be Aelves with a blend of Shadow/lovecraftian themes. That would be badass.
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>>52558383
Yes. Yes it would be.

I'm a dwarf fag and really have no interest in elves, but I really do hope you guys get something as cool as we just got.
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>>52558055
The Ironclad uses the Imperial Knight base, if that's any help.
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>>52558463
So that would mean it's the 120 oval base, because unless it's a new base, that's the next step down from the 170 oval of the imp-knight.

Very cool. Thankyou.
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>>52558412
If the shadow elves do have a Cthulhu theme going for them, then I hope it includes aquatic like visuals and elements cause then it would go well with the Kharadron's Flying Ship theme.

The we could have matches where the terrain is freaky looking shaped like some kind of Sky Sea.
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>>52558463
Can any order units embark on the ships or just the dwarfs
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>tfw you have a good army but the lack of updates/new models since the new setting still leave you feeling left out
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>>52558538
Which army?
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>>52558527
Any model with the arkanaut keyword if I remember right
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>>52558555
Reeeeeee
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>>52558543
Seraphon?
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>>52558543
Seraphon, like I said I know it's a good army but damn I feel kinda, lacking in new toys, or at least make the cold ones not derpy looking
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>>52555882
were can i find the list of winners?
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Reminder that this is a tourney competetive 1000pt list if theres any other soulblight fags here
something to tide us over until we get a book anyhow
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>>52558813
>something to tide us over until we get a book anyhow
As a soulblight player, it fills me with dread to imagine how long we will have to wait to get an actual book.
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>>52558860
That feel
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>>52558566
They also can't shoot from the boat.
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>>52558964
Which I can respect. I feel with some of the relics described, the transports can be pretty hard to kill, so having the thunderers shooting from inside with no repercussions would be a bit too much.

The fact they can't do that, shows some restraint on the designer's part. Part of it could also be they didn't want to try condensing rules for firing ports and rules for that.

Also if the ship gets destroyed while the dudes are inside, the WD only hinted that "not all will survive"
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The Necrosphinx is one of the best models GW has ever done and they discontinue it
ffs
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>>52559200
It'll be back
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>>52558888
It's about the same feeling as trying to comprehend how big the infinity of the universe is as you watch the night sky, lying on your back. Depressing, overwhelming and dreadful.
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>>52557257
AoS would have died if it weren't for points/matched play.

It's what fans demanded, and also what drove new players/WFB players/40K players to finally get in the game.
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>>52559264
No proofs
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>>52559065
Supposedly every model inside must make a save or take a wound.
And I'm really grateful we're not seeing a Kharadron shuttleservice, with order bringing nothing but ships left, right and center to ferry their Retributors and shit into battle.
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>>52557713
Me too anon. Me too. But the majority of players are into Matched Play and either don't like having fun themselves, or are lying about fun just to get you to play them so they can bend you over the table.
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>>52559285
Yeah its for the best or else fucking everyone would have a ship tacked on
Riptide wing style
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>>52558031
But inevitably and persistently exists in many a player's pants.
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>>52558031
Nope, that's a lie. Or you're misinformed.
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>>52558383
Um, no. You're essentially saying you like Aelves as long as they're as non-elf as possible. It's innovation through mitigation.
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>>52559285
Yeah I imagine the ships are going to be fairly expensive, meaning a parking lot strategy isn't viable.
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>>52559346
>>52559313
He's trolling. Don't fall for it. Even now, he's going to reply with "How am I trolling?"
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>>52559348
Elves with a sea creature/underwater aesthetic.That's all that means, Anon.

They already exist, really. Look at the Exiles pirates.
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>>52558271
But it's actually gotten new models
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>>52559348
>You're essentially saying you like Aelves as long as they're as non-elf as possible.
Am I? Huh, that's not what i was trying to imply. Sorry if it came out that way.
What I mean is like Elves with armor or clothing/gear with Lovecraftian theme, which might include an underwater aesthetic since that's a large feature in most Lovecraftian works.
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>>52559369
^ Don't argue with the Slaneesh degenerate evangelist/apologist.
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>>52559417
Which I can totally see working. I get the appeal.

If it's true, cthonian aelves would be pretty awesome.
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>>52559372
Then you have zero idea what "lovecraftian" means.

It's like saying you love reading Tolkien as long as he's writing Call of Cthulhu.
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>>52559417
LMAO, all the time conveniently ignoring keywords: HORROR, EDGECULTS, TENTACLES, and INSANITY

"Which is totally elven, yeah."
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>>52559531
>cthonian
>HORROR, EDGECULTS, TENTACLES, and INSANITY
That would be pretty funny actually. There likely will be some EDGE words and names for the shadow elves if they are a thing.

I'm also thinking there might be a draconic/serpent/reptile theme going on for them since Malerion is like half dragon or something. There is the pet winged lizard thing in the sneek peek after all.
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>>52558527
>>52558555
>>52558566
Close enough, it is any model with the "Skyfarer" keyword, which is every Kharadron Overlord model except the ships themselves.

"Skyfarer" is pretty vague though, so maybe other armies will get the keyword at some point, such as future Swifthawk agent models or the Grot Skypirates.
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>>52559627

Sorry anon, I didn't realize you were lobbying for just Dark Elves.

From a pure sales perspective, if there were to be any re-release of the earlier Legacy factions, it should at least be one of the more recognizable elf factions: High or Wood.
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>>52559685
>I didn't realize you were lobbying for just Dark Elves.
I mean, isn't that just what the shadow elves will be? That's likely why I'm attracted to the idea anyways but in any case, all I'm really doing is sharing ideas of what I think they might be like. I have no idea what we'll actually get but I hope it is something cool that everyone can like. Better yet, if the shadow elves faction plays really well.
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>>52559755
"I have an awesome idea to innovate Star Wars."

"Let's hear it."

"Okay, wow. Get this. The Jedi, okay. . .get this, THE JEDI become CORRUPTED via (dramatic pause) Lovecraftian Horror. . ."

"Wut?"

"I KNOW, right? And they sleep under the sea only to wake up just to make everyone INSANE!"

"So. . .you're trying to make the Sith more edgy."

"Yeah well, isn't that what Cthulhu Jedi should be?"
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>>52556517
Archaon
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>>52557706
Death fag is the making I see.
Start spamming stupid skeleton memes and whining about a lack of battle tomes. You will fit right in.
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>>52559627
Did anyone get more JUST in all of Fantasy/AoS than Malerion?
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>>52559755
>>52559950
It's not without precedent. The Dark Elves were all about pirates and the sea, just look at the Charybydis or however it's spelled. Maybe with Khaine dead they decided look for other evil, older gods to worship

What would be crazy would be if they were [DESTRUCTION]
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>>52559950
Well, this is why I'm not working on the design team of course, as limited in my wording for ideas is. Still though, it's fun to imagine.
>>52560037
>Did anyone get more JUST in all of Fantasy/AoS than Malerion?
Well Slaanesh got it's spot stolen by a fucking dirty Nurgle-clone rat.
Hail the Horned Rat!
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>>52558860
>>52559240

You want to know despair?

I'm a Deadwalkers player. I am the only faction who will wait longer than Soulblight.
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>>52560020
Or I could not do it and wait for my turn to get my battletome. I'll take this route.
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How will Light Aelves look like?
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>>52560115
There won't be any, unless they're steampunk and/or edgelords.
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>>52560084
Actually, it will be either of us I think. Skeletons are more popular than both our factions so they should get it first. But if they could re-release tomb kings, i would be ok with that. Anyway, we'll get there in time. No need to spam as much as elves and skeletons players.
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Leaders
Daemon Prince Of Nurgle (160)
Daemon Prince Of Nurgle (160)
Great Unclean One (240)

Battleline
30 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (300)
30 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (300)
10 x Plaguebearers Of Nurgle (100)

Units
3 x Plague Drones Of Nurgle (220)
3 x Plague Drones Of Nurgle (220)

Behemoths
Soul Grinder (280)
- Mark of Chaos: Nurgle

Total: 1980/2000
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>>52560070
>The Dark Elves were all about pirates and the sea, just look at the Charybydis or however it's spelled.
Right and since that's got the shadow elves might focus more on stealth and hit and run tactics. They might just be like the Dark Eldar.
>Maybe with Khaine dead they decided look for other evil, older gods to worship
That's likely where Malerion and his mother come in within the lore.
>What would be crazy would be if they were [DESTRUCTION]
That would indeed be out of nowhere.
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>>52559276
GW quarterly profits following GH release.
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>>52560152
>Anyway, we'll get there in time.

Where DA FUQ does this kind of pie-in-the-sky hope and confidence come from?
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>>52560219
The American Spirit
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Death players What performs Better?

Morghast with glaives or with shortswords?

Glaives have 3/3+/3+/-2/3 and 5+ save against Mortal wounds

Swords are 5/3+/3+/-2/2 and can charge 3d6"
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https://strawpoll.com/63966rs

What current Age of Sigmar faction do you most want to see expanded by GW (e.g. new Battletome, new models)?
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>>52553821
>https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120209033_Ardboyz01.jpg

As others have said, literally the same models, but the yellow really does make them look more 40kish, I don't hate it per say, but I don't think it is the best color for them.
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>>52560432
Skeletons
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>>52560297
>>
Should I play Grand Alliance Death or Stormcast?
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>>52560433
>https://strawpoll.com/63966rs

Don't forget to vote SCE.
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>>52560458
Death.

>>52560468
Deathrattle's winning. Get spooked, Stormcast.
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>>52560446
they both are big skeletons.
for you
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>>52560458
Stormcast. Never-ever enough Stormcast.
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>>52560458
Take a guess, Bonehead
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>>52560432
These units aren't tanks anon. There are made to get in there, murder their target, then die gloriously. Go with the one with the most damage potential. In AoS, more dice= MOAR POWER.
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>>52560178
Chtulhu elves wouldn't fit in death or order, and I doubt they'd try to squeeze another god in under Chaos unless they redo Slaneesh as tortured in a cthulhu like state
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>>52560479
>>52560505

I should mention that if I do pick Death, I'm starting with a Blood Knight army.
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>>52560458
do you want to play easy Main protag mode with the more variable model range or the army that is spookier.

the choice is obvious
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>>52560458
Are you a massive edge lord, or do you like sucking penis?
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>>52560531
I just ordered my first 5 myself, I cannot wait to paint them, they are such badass models. To be honest, I love me some skeletons, and I love having an Army of Darkness theme, but I can't wait for more vampires.
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>>52560174
Pls respond =(
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>>52560581
The GW bloodknight models are dogshit
And im a soulblight fag
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>>52560581
Nb, just wanted to also say this is one of, if not my all time favorite book covers that Gee Dubz has ever done, and definitely up there in the most metal ones ever made. t. new AoS player for the past 3 months.
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>>52560581

I was planning to make plastic ones by using the Von Carstein shields on Dragon Blades.

Fraction of the price too.
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>>52560531
Doesn't matter, play death.
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>>52560600
Soul Grinder is 280? That can't be right.
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>>52560531

what is it with people who want to start a full bloodknight army?

I mean who am I kidding I wanted to do the same. Now I am more Skeleton than man.

Seriously though. the current resin Bloodknights are disgustingly overcosted and thats not even the Issue. their lances WILL be bend and every attempt to straigthen them is merely licking their 20$/man wounds even tho they look so nice which is a shame. Not even talking about when you play a big game on a hot sunny day and they melt back

BUT there is a easy and cheesy fix by taking High Aelf Blood- Dragon Knights and adding the Death upgrade set to them. also theyre 260 points a pop so better find something to support them with

However, if youre playing full soulblight you dont have amazing Tarpits like zombies and skellies.

all your other options are Vargheists which do the same job as the knights most of the time
Bat Swarms (if you do, take the Lord of the rings ones) are only good against shooty armies and fell bats which are very meh
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>>52560706
Well, deathfags from these threads turned me into a skeleton over the past month, but only for 1000 points.
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stupid question, but is there anything stopping units locked in melee from shooting? as far as i know there isnt, but my circle of melee-heavy friends arent happy that i get all this shooting when im in melee.
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>>52549589
>tfw you corrupt Seraphon into serving the Bone Zone
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>>52558569
Yeah, i prefer the old godzilla style dark elf cold blood. they were so nice & way better than this derp face dinos ... I wonder why they chenged them ...
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>>52561066
Nope you can shoot in melee
Just need LOS on target
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So, whats the basic lore behind the new DORFS WITH AIRSHIPS? I've only seen the pics so far, is it as bad as some people make it out to be?

>Pic is one of the very few AOS pics I have.
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>>52559264
GHB was one of the best thing GW proposed us in a long time imo
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>>52561185
tech-savvy dwarves fucked off into the planes of magic to avoid the end times, adapted to it, came back as some kind of pirate, i think
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s0H9eJidnmwG

Is there any hope of the Stormcasts living a normal life after the war?

Does Sigmar really care about the people killed?
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>>52560616
They are chinacast - just a little under 30 bucks!
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>>52560706
Get the Bones bat swarms - 3 bucks a pop and they look really decent desu
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>>52561192
>>52561204

>>52555428
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>>52557849
he does. just their god is MIA atm
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>>52561185
Here's some stuff from WD.
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>>52551018
I don't see it
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>>52561066
after doing roughly 25 games of Aos since the release of the generals Handbook. The 2 biggest and probably broken Issues with the game are currently : 1. the devastating effect of the Double Turn.
2. The amount of pressure Missile Weapons put on you while they are still decent even when theyre in melee especially because they can still shoot at any target.

those two kinda stack as you can melee in your opponents phase but can only shoot on your own turn.

If you play any List that has either No Ranged support or no reliable way to get everything shooting locked into melee by turn 2 youre kinda screwed

Stormcast are especially deadly as you could fill your battleline with the Bow-icators (which have 2 wounds with 4+ and okay melee) take a Lord Aquilor and Paladors and deepstrike from your opponents Rear, the palladors may shoot two profiles at the same time and their gryphs still do reliable deadly damage with mortal wounds and rend.

Sylvaneth teleports around the map with their woods and kurnoth hunters are literally never out of range to hit something


Ironjawz is probably the strongest pure Melee faction at the moment but it too has the strategy to deploy before you (by placing a battalion for as an example) outside of your range bubble. they then give you the first turn drooling or even worse, walking towards them, they then run twice in the Hero Phase and then destroy you in melee. If they failed the charge with their +2" Musicians dont worry theyll get the double turn 50% of the time and destroy you twice
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>>52561066
you can shoot in melee, but..
some weapons have a minimum range,
combat phase specifically states melee weapons.
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>>52561416
One of them does have a tentacle on it.
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>>52561464
i understand that, but for example, a warlock engineer with a 9" range pistol with no miminum range. say he's charged, survives combat, combat ends, it proceeds to the start of the next (my) turn. i leave him motionless in the movement phase, then in the shooting phase, i can shoot the guy i'm in melee with, then in the combat phase pile in and melee, right?
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>>52559200
It's not one of the best. It's THE best. Come at me.
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>>52560433
>no Disciples of Tzeentch
great job, faggot
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Before I start putting money down on it: Blades of Khorne will let me run a totally mixed daemon/mortal army, right?
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>>52561912
Daemons and Bloodbound, yes.
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>>52561912
yes. but like in disciplesof tzeentch pure daemons and pure mortal have different Battleline options and possibly different spells/artifacts etc
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>>52561927

Khorne-marked Slaves to Darkness would work too, like they do in Tzeentch, right?
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>>52562327
think so yea
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>>52562327
No.
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>>52562359
Tzeentch didn't include the GHB points values in it's book either?
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>>52562398
You're supposed to look at the fact that they changed Khorne and Mortal to Khorne and Bloodbound for battleline requirements.
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>>52550020
>easily triggered giggers browse this sigger
Things sure have changed over the past five years.
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Going to start age of sigmar with my boyfriend. We are getting lizard men and skaven. Do these lists seem like they will be good against each other?

Skaven
Screaming bell
20 clan rats
20 clan rats
Warp fire throwing team
Warp lightning cannon
Doom wheel

Vs

Skink priest
10 skinks
10 skinks
Stegadon
Bastilidon
5 chameleon skinks
5 chameleon skinks
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>>52562951
Which one are you playing?
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>>52561185
>So, whats the basic lore behind the new DORFS WITH AIRSHIPS?

Discovered that there was "seams" of magic gaseous gold in the sky. So they took off into the skies to get it and stayed there since it was relatively safe from the Chaos Hordes. They're all guided by a code but are also greedy sky jews so the code is pretty open to interpretation and they like to make money.
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>>52561416
But anon it's just Eldar
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>>52563137
Aeldar*
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>>52562994
We will be going back and forth. I will probably play the skaven more as he lines the lizards.
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>>52561540
You can shoot anyone in range, not just the person you're in combat with. But yes.
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>>52563177
Aeldari*
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So with new overlords and incomming ctulhu army how long untill dwarves and elves will be TombKinged?
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>>52561455
> destroy you twice
As an ironjawz player, you literally roll the dice. Either you get the second turn and skull fuck them, or they do, and you get shot to pieces/key units get counter charged. It's fun though!
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>>52563659
It's a pure random
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>>52561455
>those two kinda stack as you can melee in your opponents phase but can only shoot on your own turn.
ill make you a deal... if you give up your melee attacks during my turn then I wont shoot into combats.

melee is a blender that churns twice as hard as shooting so it needs shooting into melee to stay useful.
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>>52561455

Bow judicators are pretty shit in melee though since they're only one attack at 3+/4+/-/1 for a 5 man MSU unit

Not saying they aren't good but they're just going to fold quick

Now vanguard hunters/palladors/dracothians will put up a very decent fight and still have okay shooting
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>>52561402

>Grotbag Scuttlers

GROT SKY PIRATES CONFIRMED
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>>52561455
>>52563677
It's only pure random if you don't plan for it or account for it in your strategies. I have a hard time explaining why the random turn order works or why I like it, here's a few article that bring up good points though. At first I was resistant to it, but then I realized it's one of those things that adds a lot to the game, and brings in its own strategies and tactics.

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2016/11/07/age-of-sigmar-tactics-second-is-the-new-first/

https://aos-tactics.com/2017/01/08/how-to-optimise-for-the-double-turn/
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>>52550332
There are no real GMing "rules", the GM just controls the monsters, sets up the map and reads the fluff. That's it.
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>>52563929
>if you don't plan for it or account for it in your strategies.
And the only plan for it always playing most defencive way as it possible, so no place for some quick and high-risk strategies
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>>52564048
Not necessarily. Here's one rule of thumb I use that has helped me out more often than not.

If you go first in a round, play defensively
If you go second, play aggressively

Again, it doesn't always work out, but such is the nature of the game.
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>>52563617
to be fair the entire range of tomb kings minis is ancient compared to the relatively new kits that the elf factions have on shelves.
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