/swg/ Welcome to Dathomir Edition

>>52546524
Not when she's on the rancor; a canoe is bad enough

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Post freighters

What's your favorite and why?

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>>52546524
Fuck nu canon for retconing good dathomir witches and their giant sapient rancors.

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>>52546783
Nothing comes close

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>>52546783
XWA autofire mode is a hell of a drug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGyOenuNmIw

just missed the last thread, pretty cool ship sketches in here

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>>52546783
Best ship is the one you roll yourself.

>>52546783

See >>52546824

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>>52546783
So sleek and sexy

>>52546824
Will it ever hit X-Wing?

>>52547124

I think it's in Commander - which hasn't been explicitly said to use non-canon material (so all visuals and lore and stuff is still canon) so it's possible, but I'm not sure people are clamoring for another large base turret rebel ship.

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>>52546783
>why?
We, uh... modified it.

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>>52547513
That's pretty amazing

>>52547513
Yeah so what's the purpose of the shitty crane arm?

>>52547648
Originally, salvage. Now? For our resident "Jedi" to fuck around.

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>>52546783
Oh I know it's not a freighter, but that don't mean its not one of my favorites.

>https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/4/3/from-one-chance-to-the-next/
Guy who wanted to combine X-Wing and AoR did finally, and it looks terrible. Found some gems though:

>It's not always intentional, but given the lethality of starfighter combat in X-Wing, the risk of having a player lose his or her character is far greater in a blended X-Wing and Age of Rebellion game than in your standard Age of Rebellion campaign. That's part of the charm.
That's like the exact opposite of what you want in FFGs starfighter combat.

>So when a player loses their character in the X-Wing portions of the game, you—as Game Master—should make the others roleplay their anguish. I’d even suggest adding some dark side points or using them more frequently here to simulate the added pressure.
Sounds like bad GMing to me. Thoughts?

>>52548249
Anytime a GM tries to force a player to roleplay a certain way, it's bad GMing, period.

>>52548249
>Thoughts?
Use /swg/ starfighter rules in part/or complete

>>52548249

>That's like the exact opposite of what you want in FFGs starfighter combat.

It's not really that greater - RAW allows a SIL 3 ship to explode when you exceed Hull Threshold. If only ejection systems were in the standard equipment systems for ships...

>Sounds like bad GMing to me. Thoughts?

Lazy GMing is usually bad yes. "Oh, we combined X-Wing with AoR, so you just die, like you would in normal AoR. And I don't want to fuck around with the actual roleplaying options of the game, so I put all the onus on you to roleplay."

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>>52546783
I just like it's looks.

>>52548297
>>52548249

Oh, I should clarify since it isn't clear - sticking to the... RAW or whatever for X-Wing is nonsensical because X-Wing is a limited tactical game. You might find it more fun for the tactical combat, but it's pure laziness on the GM to ignore all the other, non-tactical stuff the RPG handles with ships, like sensors, comms, hyperspace calculations and yes, ejector seats for the broader scenario. If story is vital, don't let the constraints of X-Wing bog you.

Also, I don't know if it was just because it was abbreviated, but some of that jabbering about the talents seemed really confusing and needlessly complicated. I feel like you could translate them way simpler into X-Wing.

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>>52548096
My fellow man with patrician taste.

>>52546524
In less than 2 weeks, we get our first serious shot at adding Trioculus to X-wing, with Chumbalaya's run at the Coruscant Invitational.

What do you think the 7 other contestants will be bringing?

The other 7 people are

-Paul Heaver
-William Haigwood
-Jesus Sanchez Gutierrez
-AC Yager
-Mishary Al-Faris
-Radoslaw Dmochowski
- Chris Norris

Of all of the lists, they were all meta staples, so it's not like much can be assumed about what anyone will fly (None of them have 'signature builds' or the like, 4 were Paratanni, 2 were Biggs Miranda Stresshog, one Palp Defenders, 1 Triple Scout)

That means that almost all of the preparation that can be done revolves around practice and analyzing these 24 ships to see what builds they fit into.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/4/3/77-plus-voting-finale/

(Scroll to the bottom)

Do any of you notice anything about any of those draft-able ship builds? The empire ones got discussed pretty thoroughly in the last thread, but scum and rebels were untouched.

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>>52546783
nothing beats a classic

For anyone that has Special Modifications, what is the mechanical benefit of a data spike?

>>52548770
I mean I could try and say some shit about the rebel stuff but I've never played in a tournament and am not particularly familiar with the popular meta lists aside from palp shuttles, biggs whatevers and fucking jumpmasters, so I don't know how useful my input would be
>X-wing
seems whatever, not a whole lot you can really do with the generics, the seismic means maybe chip damage against swarms if people go that way but if they're mostly going big ships which I think is probably likely you probably don't want that since you don't want to make it easier for them to get around.
>HWK
It's a TLT I guess, maybe it can block with the roll if shit gets too close to turret? Seems middling
>k-wing
I don't know jack shit about using bombs but I guess if you've got a fast list like an A-wing swarm or your own K's or something against slow there could be some merit to blitzing across the board to plop that mine somewhere inconvenient turn 1 or 2.
>z-95s
probably fine against whatever
>t-70
seems like a strictly more useful x-wing unless there's a lot of swarms
>A-wing
a strange set of shit that I really don't see being super useful, predator will pretty much have a guaranteed proc on at least one ship in each list because of the draft but probably constructed parts are gong to be able to heavily token up so I feel like you either take it if you have wes or if everyone has swarms.
>Y-wing
seems fine, like a budget jumpmaster, would rather have had r2 over targeting astro but probably good against basically anything but a swarm
>B-wing
good fucking luck with that

I would probably pretty much universally want the Y-wing or the Z's the most, then probably the T-70 and the rest would really depend on what you were up against. B would be at the bottom, ion cannon is too situational, K only if you built around it which seems risky, the other three more or less interchangeable.

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>>52546783
Because space turtle

>>52549617
>Once per round. a character with a dataspike may expend it to attempt to disable a security program as a maneuver (rather than as an action).
>This can include the use of the Disable Security Program action [see Slicing Encounters, page 87). Reduce the difficulty of the subsequent Computers check to disable the program by 2. to a minimum of Simple (-).
>After one use, the dataspike burns out and becomes useless.

They're pretty vicious little things for 100c, the reduction in difficulty is quite a big bonus once you're in there

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>>52546783
My favorite. Well not exactly this. HWK-290 is my favorite but the images are being used interchangeably so whatever. Mostly just because I love Dark Forces game.

>>52546783
I unironically like VCX-100.

>>52549827
Thanks, I'm actually not getting it for me but I'm using it in the stats for my KX-series security/enforcer droid NPCs.

I'll post the stats if y'all are interested.

>>52548297
>If only ejection systems were in the standard equipment systems for ships...

That might work the first three times a player eats it in their X-wing, but eventually that explanation gets stale. After, ejection systems malfunction, or more often never get a chance to even be used because the fighter goes up in a fireball before the pilot can react. Any system where the player will lose his ship the majority of space combats is a shitty system for any RPG. That's why /swg/ has the house rules to fix that problem in the base FFG game.

>>52548096
>>52548563

Muh fukkin niggas.
Capital of the year, all years.

>>52550978

Well in fairness, you could instead change it up so rather than 'blown the fuck up', a ship could be damaged beyond ability to fight.

Engines blown out, s-foils shot off, etc.
With that, maybe they become combat ineffective, but if they can get off the board they escape the battle - no shooting, etc, but they can move.

Rest of the group now wants to cover them as best possible, or they can try and use their ejector.
I'd go with 'straight up detonates' only as a result of a really really bad crit roll, and even then, I'd probably allow destiny point usage for ejectors.

You're right though, its a really stupid idea. Using X-Wing's rules when its based around expendable units as a pure tactics game 100% doesnt work when you're dealing with actual characters who have time and effort put into them.

If they made something like Imperial Assault for starships, so things were balanced around trying desperately to stay alive to continue with the character, then that'd work MUCH better.

Course, as you say, that's why we have the house rules.

>>52551100
Even in X-wing's own unoffical campaign, they assume you auto-eject, and you can roll to see who finds your body/how injured you are.

Anon with the doggo who biggsed his biggs here, went to the local store after work today and confirmed that none of the judges should have a problem with it being in tournaments, should be fun to use.

>>52551928
It looks totally repairable as well, i sat on a T-70 by mistake while repainting it, and it broke in the exact same way. I fixed it with superglue in 30 seconds.

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>>52551059
I'd have to disagree.

Anybody got a source for star wars like music that's free/public domain for distribution?

>>52552853

Space Dildo's are awfully upfront about what they plan to do to you if you get into weapons range aren't they?

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>>52553045
It hails from a great design era of republic ship production when implied penetration was considered aesthetic

>>52553036
The Planets by Gustav Holst is probably the biggest source of inspiration John Williams used for Star Wars's soundtrack (at least the OT), and I believe it's public domain.

>>52553036
I wish.

>>52553230
I don't think it's public domain, Holst only died in the 1930's. Public domain is afaik 100 years after the creator's death.

>>52553142
>>52552853
>ramming speed

>>52553318

Holst was British though, and it's 75 years over here.

>>52547710
Does it have a ship size lightsaber to go with it?

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>>52553620
>a ship size lightsaber
Wouldn't that just be a composite beam laser like the LAAT/i's ball turrets or Rebels' proto-B-wing?

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Why did people lie to me about Lucas being a bad editor and all that "ANH was saved in editing by Marcia" stuff?

I'm reading this book, and not only do people like John Milius say things like pic related, but it talks about how Lucas was the one who decided that the original guy he had hired to edit was shit, and brought in Marcia and two other people and gave them direction on how he wanted the edit, and was very hands on.

He was apparently a respected editor.

GF wants to into Scum for X-wing.
Would a Jumpmaster and Most Wanted make a good gift?

/swg/, how do you Inquisitor/Emperor's Hand?
I want to spice up my BBEGs and not have them be so generic

>>52554181

Probably, though for Most Wanted I'd ask if they have access to the HWK and Firespray minis to make use of the cardboard.

>>52554266
She doesn't have anything right now afaik.
She definitely won't have either of those ships.
Maybe getting her a firespray instead of the jumpmaster would make more sense?

Gray Squadron Pilot [R2 Astromech, Bomb Loadout, Extra Munitions, Twin Laser Turret, Conner Net] (33) x 3

How does this look?
3 TLTs
6 Conner Nets
Seems pretty ok to me.

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>>52552853
Best ships needed to rebuild an Empire.

>>52554582
I like that guys designs, but no. That is not nice, not at all.

>>52553838
Skywalking the Dale Pollock one is not a good source. It has largely been superseceded by recent works on SW/Lucas and has been as too hagiographical (he refuses to release the raw transcripts) and making too many errors. People use it for his primary access and interviews to Lucas, but even the official LFL books are better in covering bts and now it's largely seen as a work of its time.

>>52554181
>>52554372
Does she want to jump in and be competitive?

Or is the playgroup just the two of you?

>>52554766
She's probably not ever gonna do tourneys like I do. The play group is pretty casual, just us three guys and our GFs. Out of all of us, I'm the only tourney fag, and I know how to tone my lists down for fair play.

Does anyone have the household item ship design pdf? My Group got their first ship and I'd like to do something custom for them.

>>52554831

Then yeah, Firespray should be fine.

What's your dream SW tabletop game that doesn't currently exist?

>>52553838
>>52553838
Because there's a concerted "George is was and will always be shit" narrative that's been pushed for twenty years now.

People like to downplay his contributions and push others to the forefront, despite the fact that he nearly broke himself from the stress of getting ANH right and has been hands-on on ways not a lot of directors are willing to do, and it's his directions that largely pushed special effects to greater bounds.

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>>52546783
I appreciate the Wayfarer's clear distinction between ship and cargo hold. Truly a dedicated freighter.

>>52555236
LOL that looks like the UPS truck of starships

>>52555205
People forget that every single director ever should have their picture in a dictionary next to the term "Diminishing returns."
Every good director turns to shit pretty quick. Look at Ridley Scott's career, look at James Cameron's career, look at Lucas' career. It's a cycle that every good director goes through. Just because they turned out shit in the end doesn't mean we should forget about how good the OT was, or Blade Runner/Alien, or Terminator. Every good director has his moment in the sun, then a spiral into the retirement home.
As someone who's going to start directing smaller indie stuff within a year, it's important to have this kind of perspective.

Is Gwendoline Christie signed on for the next movie or two or is Phasma ded?

>>52555603

Part of it is probably that on their first films, if they did something retarded, people are happy to say "man that's not great, have you considered X?"
But later on, when they've achieved godhood in hollywood, people are terrified to naysay anything to them.

Which is entirely understandable, and also not their fault. Just means that there's distinctly less oversight.

>>52555655
>"man that's not great, have you considered X?"
This reminds me of a story from the behind the scenes of Aliens.
James Cameron showed either the screenplay or the finished movie to a friend who went, "oh, so it's like a Them! remake?".
Cameron had never seen Them!, watched the movie and had an "oh, shit" moment.

>>52554244
Bump?

Is there a fan made remaster of the OT that has high quality without the lucas bullshit added in?

>>52556203
no

>>52555652
>Is Gwendoline Christie signed on for the next movie
I sure hope so, killing her off would be an absolute waste of the character. I'm thinking they'll use her as a rival to Finn and a badass normal.

>>52556203

Yes there is.
Search for Star Wars Despecialised.

It's basically blu-ray quality, cut together from a bunch of different sources and cleaned up by massive autists who love these films something fierce.

Its the original films before Lucas did anything.
No CGI touchups, not even the good ones like making the snowspeeder's cockpits a bit less seethrough.

>>52556203
You've got Star Wars Revisited, which is pretty good although the guy doing it has only finished ANH so far.

I think he's about part-way through ESB, but it's taking a lot longer because of how much more effects-heavy it is. Looks as though he's basically rebuilding the movie from the ground up, right down to doing the effects again in his basement.

>>52556371
Phasma is Finn's foil
Hux is Poe's foil
Kylo is Rey's foil

IT'S LIKE 3 TRILOGIES IN ONE!!!!!

Kill me now

>>52556490
It rhymes like poetry

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>>52556490
>Hux is Poe's foil
When did Hux become an ace pilot?

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>>52556547

<Yo, Traitor - Still alive?>

>>52555603
>>52555205

I think there's also the idea that a lot of other people who worked on ANH also went on to become big and a number of them are extremely interested in getting their fair share of credit for everything they did. Ben Burt for example did sound, but he also wants to emphasize that a number of shots in the film were his idea. Which is why he's been going around putting stuff from his student films on display and showing how obviously certain bits of the Death Star Assault were influenced by that. A lot of emphasis is also being placed recently on Alec Guiness for helping keep things together.

Neither of those things are ACTUALLY within a directors purview. Which is what some people don't really get. The problem only really comes up when people assume a directors purview is in literally everything and that they HAVE to be a super auteur.

>>52554761
>Skywalking the Dale Pollock one is not a good source.
Source?
I find it hard to believe that John Milius is lying.

>>52554761
>>>52553838 #
>Skywalking the Dale Pollock one is not a good source. It has largely been superseceded by recent works on SW/Lucas and has been as too hagiographical (he refuses to release the raw transcripts) and making too many errors. People use it for his primary access and interviews to Lucas, but even the official LFL books are better in covering bts and now it's largely seen as a work of its time.
You can't just say that and not give a source.
I agree with the guy above me.

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Anyone have a good cross-section/floorplan for one of pic related? Considering using one for a hypothetical game.

>>52556547
Admiral vs Pilot

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Post underrated and badass species

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Are there recommended builds for EotE snipers or I just make an Assassin focused on ranged?

>>52557747
Mercenary Soldier has multiple ranks in true aim, which is a godsend for shooting at range.

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Are either of these lists good?

I have 2 Kihraxz that I bought to make a starter scum list/to get copies of crack shot, and I'm thinking that I could make this fairly easily, since Kihraxz can be picked up sans-crack-shot for $6 or so.

>>52558203

Naked or nearly naked Kihraxz? No, they aren't "good", but if you're just fucking around you could do worse than 5 3 ATK ships.

>>52557747
Why not just use Sharpshooter from AoR? It's not like one would be out of place in an EotE game.

>>52546524
So I've been running this list in x-wing. It started as a generics only experiment, but it wins and I like how it flies.

Patrol leader (40)
-fleet officer (3)
-gunner (5)
Obsidian pilotx4 (52)

Thoughts? Handing out focus has saved my bacon.

>>52559052
i think that this list would struggle to deal with Aces. Your Patrol Leader can't mod shots, your TIEs can't double mod, and your re-positioning is a single action at PS 3.

I would replace Gunner and Fleet Officer with Hux and something that costs 3.

>>52556654
Fingers crossed for Poe getting his own pilot rival. It'll probably never happen, but I hope he lands the killing blow on Kylo Ren via air duel.

>>52553620
No, but they wanted one.

Would anyone happen to have an art of Star Wars office worker? I'm looking for someone fairly nondescript, boring and "nerdy" for lack of a better term

>>52555236
Best starter ship in my opinion. Wonky to fly but that cargo hold can be fitted to do just about anything and if you get a base of operations you can get multiple crates and change them out for specific missions on the fly. No need to refit a whole craft just to get some cells for those bounties or remove the cargo bay to make way for a hangar. Just swap the crate and you're good to go.

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>>52546783
Because where would the Rebellion be without it?

>>52559795
Naw, he might blow up Hux's capital ship though. An enemy ace pilot to fuck his shit up in 8 and Poe to turn the tables on in 9 would be great though.

On a side note, what's the chance they'll get like an ARC-170 or some future version of it for Poe and Finn to team up again in? Not like they have the Falcon to fly around in, and this'll let them go places if they can slip BB8 in.

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>>52560299
Finn's an infantryman, so probably low. That said, I would bust a nut if upcoming films gave the two of them a nucanon space F-14 as tribute to Legends' Mk 1 Z-95.

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Gonna ask this here as well.
What tabletop rpg system is best for playing a campaign in star wars, wherein you command Star Destroyers to hunt down and eliminate rebel scum and pilot TIE-fighters?

>>52560416
Armada/X-wing with modified AoR rules

>>52560484
Do you mean a system wherein you combine the space battles of armada with the RPG settings and scenarios of AoR?
Sounds appealing.

>>52560383
To be fair, Luke was a farmer and was allowed to pilot based on Biggs' recommendation. Finn being made a gunner a la the ESB snowspeeders is internally consistent with canon.

>>52560550
Yeah, but Luke already had prior experience in flying. He had his T-16 and the OT visual dictionaries stated at the time that the X-wing's controls were almost identical to the Skyhopper's. Garven Dreis also mentioned that he flew with Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars, though I can't remember whether that was part of a deleted scene or how many deleted scenes are still canon.

I don't remember much of TFA. Did Finn have any prior experience in piloting?

>>52560610

Piloting, no. He explicitly was not a pilot.

He does, however, have gunner experience riding in both an SF and the Falcon, and had decent basic training in blasters before (His base Agility was good, and maybe by the end of TFA he had a point in Gunnery).

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>>52553838
The prequels and his other more recent films (Red Tails) are generally seen as pretty bad. Most of the issues come from writing and direction, as the visuals are still pretty good even beyond special effects work, imo, but that doesn't excuse the fact that those movies are generally pretty incompetent. Looking at those vs how many brilliant people he had working with him on the OT, it's easy for people to assume Lucas was an idea man who rode on other people's talent.
In reality, I think he simply peaked. It happens. Sometimes your perspective changes as you age, you might not have the same knack you did when you were younger. Also, there's the issue of people not being willing to say "no" to him because he's George Fucking Lucas, whereas the OT had lots of constraints and he had to fight hard to get the vision he wanted together.

>>52554244
Columbo, but with torture and darkside powers. He's a shabby, somewhat bumbling but dogged pursuer of the heroes. He doesn't use brute force like most Imperials do, in fact you might be given the impression that he's incompetent, even harmless. It's all a clever ploy though, he feigns stupidity to entrap his enemies, and his natural caution and observation allow him to extract vital information without his prey ever realizing what he's after.

When he's done toying with his opponents, he's completely terrifying, willing to use horrific means to get what he wants and preferring to swiftly and brutally bring any sort of conflict to an end. He probably carries a blaster rather than a lightsaber, but he's much more likely to let his elite cadre of storm troopers take you out with overwhelming firepower rather than face you directly. He's also not in the least hesitant to use orbital bombardments and other blunt force means with massive collateral damage to finish his opponents off once it's time to strike.

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>>52560693
True, so there's a chance. I'd prefer to see him operating with NR infantry grunts, though. Especially if the ST prop department looks at Rogue One's 'Nam-era Rebel grunts as a chronological starting point, adds 30-ish years, and makes NR infantry resemble Gulf War American infantry gear.

>>52560831

I'm torn. I hate media to get too close to "ripped to from the headlines" and I think it would be hard to balance aesthetics from the relative modern period with similarities and commentary on actual shit ongoing right now because the Middle East has been prime real estate for people to wrassle over since before we could write.

On the other hand that is probably as close as we could get to Generation Kill in space AND I love the implication that an emboldened New Republic would Desert Storm the shit out of the FO's Saddam.

>>52560928
Agreed. "ripped from the headlines" is a shit way to do star wars, especially with aesthetics and plot minutia.
Make the NR infantry look like the Endor guys and I'm more than happy.

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>>52560766
The prequels are not even close to bad. They are operating at exactly the same level of competence as ANH.

ANH has plot contrivences and shaky characterization too. But the simple truth is that people just say what they are told to say, and right now that is that the PT is bad.

The concebsus used to be that ROTS was good/great, TPM was good, and AOTC was good outside of the love scenes.

I don't know when that turned into
>everything about the PT is bad they are the worst abortions of all time

All I know is that i'm pretty deep down the filmmaking rabit hole, and I see the exact same directorial flavor behind every Lucas film, from THX to ROTS.

>>52561114
>I hate sand
>hurrr as great as the original!

Maybe other people just aren't retarded anon?

>>52561553
>he specifically said outside of the love scenes

>>52561114
Can Lucas do love scenes good at all?

>>52562010
>Can Lucas do love scenes good at all?
"...I love you!" "I know." Bam, good love scene.

>>52562052
But anon, that was originally written as "I love you too." The change was improvised by Harrison Ford.

>>52562052
Two lines of dialogue don't turn that scene into a love scene

>>52562091
>>52562052
Not improvised, but decided on by Ford and Irvin Kershner right before they shot the scene.

It's not weird to be 22 and have a Star Wars bedspread, right?
My gf's never said anything about it...

>>52562150
If you've got one and still got a GF, it's evidently not weird enough to matter

>>52562169
Cool. Good to know that I can overcome something like that.

>>52562177

Now you need to see if you can get her to dress up like Ysanne Isard in the bedroom

>>52562205
did you just assume my allegiance?
Rebellion straight OG
She's a Mandalore fangirl though...

>>52562278
Traviss or Nu?

>>52562278

>Rebellion
>not wanting to be dommed by Ysanne Isard

Come on son, I've been a Rebel my whole life but I'd be a filthy who for Ysanne Isard in bed

Or Admiral Daala

>>52562309
not sure, probably a mix of both if I were to guess.
>>52562337
you do you
Traitor

>>52562337
Daala is definitely the superior choice, though

>>52562351

>traitor
Loyal to the rebellion till the day I die.
But man, some Isard hatesex would be top tier.

>>52562385
>Fucking the fuck up
EU-Tarkin go to bed.

>>52562417
The constant failure is kinda adorable in it's own way tho
>YWN tenderly and reassuringly cuddle daala after improbable Jedi luck ruins everything yet again

>>52562001
Yes, because Kenobi going to a 50s diner to look up information on a dart made total sense and wasn't just a complete waste of our time.

>>52561553
Is reading really that hard?

>>52559576
I predicted the ace issue, but I can't take the focus action and assign a second focus? That seems like it defeats the purpose unless I fuck up and bump all over the place. Everyone is super new so we're trying to nail down the rules so we don't have to unlearn what we have learned. I'll be trying out the bumper humper next with daredevil. I tried expose and was underwhelmed.

Usually I run four acadamies with howlrunner and echo with advanced cloak and collision detector, but my buddies hate the phantom so I'm trying to git gud and wean myself off it.

>>52562681
What was bad about it?
You sound like an RLM drone.

Taking Arrakis from Dune is fine but a 50's diner is just too much for you?

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>>52562714
>What was bad about it?
not him, but:
wew, lad

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>>52562751
>no answer
What a waste of a post. At least try to defend your baseless opinion.

Besides, it's very clearly still sci-fi chic. Just look at the table on the right compared to the left.

>>52562714
>What was bad about it?
It was a boring scene with no point that didn't fit the star wars aesthetic. Nor did it establish a new one, it was a one-off with no explanation, no point, and nothing of interest going on.

The prequel were hot garbage, and anyone over the age of 13 when they were released knew this long before RLM basically went through the movies and fucking indexed just about every fucking thing wrong with them.

>>52562681
>not liking 50's diner
Wew lad.

It was actually interesting to see and added some interesting world building.

>>52562681
>>52562802
????
He is playing gumshoe detective for the first two thirds of the film. He is tracing leads by talking to contacts he has. That's classic detective serial stuff.

>>52562681
I also love the whole "If it's not in our archives, it doesn't exist," scene. I mean, there's more than one place to fucking look at a map. Bitch can't access the holonet for two seconds to prove her claim? I thought pride led to the dark side.

>>52562816
>He is playing gumshoe detective for the first two thirds of the film
Which is fucking retarded. He's a warrior monk, not a beat cop. This is one of the things that pulls viewers right out of the movie when they go in for "Star Wars".

>>52562831
>holonet
This doesn't exist in the films.

>>52562837
>He's a warrior monk, not a beat cop.
No, he's a keeper of the peace.

The ONLY problem you have with this sequence is that you are projecting your headcanon.

>>52562837
>He's a warrior monk, not a beat cop
Jedi are shown to be part detective in the Republic

>>52562831
This is also fucking hilarious and shows up in other media.
"oh, this planet isn't on Imperial maps"
WTF. HOW? Why would you ignore the existence of entire planets?

>>52562845
Han uses the Holonet in ESB. That's how he finds out Lando has taken control of Cloud City.
At least try to know what you're talking about.

>>52562862
In the first 2/3 of AotC only.
Cite another canon source of this shit.

>>52562865
>Han uses the Holonet in ESB. That's how he finds out Lando has taken control of Cloud City.
Source?

>>52562883
>Source?
the movie?
Go watch that scene again. How the fuck else would he look at a terminal and say, "oh, hey, my old buddy is now in charge of Cloud City" ?

>>52562879
Episode 1, when the Jedi go to investigate Naboo.

Various Clone Wars Episodes.

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>>52562865
>WTF. HOW? Why would you ignore the existence of entire planets?

The galaxy is mind-bogglingly enormous. Mapping it at all is laughable.

At least, in real life it is. Judging by TFA, the galaxy might be smaller than our solar system.

>>52562883
Not that guy. I don't think Han's browsing is explicitly Holonet, but the Holonet IS canon: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HoloNet

>>52562899
>the movie?
They never talk about any holonet.

>>52562916
In the films?
No.
He is getting on Lucas for not using the holonet when Lucas didn't have the holonet as part of his canon films at any point ever.

>>52562923
They don't say "hurr durr, I'ma loggin into the holonet" no.
But tell me how else Han would have at that moment realized where Lando was and that he was in a position of power?

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Also, if we aren't going to immedietly jump right to "Lucas is a hack" etc... I think it's reasonable to assume that the Jedi have better records and maps than the public, seeing as they are intergalactic peacekeepers that work with the government.

Is that an unreasonable thought?

>>52562963
They'd probably have about the same exact maps as the republic, maybe with emphasis or extra detail on jedi sites/temples/ruins/etc. on otherwise unimportant planets

>>52562963
Yeah but you'd cross-reference those maps, you wouldn't go "oop, it must not exist". You'd check the Republic Navy maps, or industry maps, or any of a dozen other possible sources of info.

>>52562939
I have no idea, but I think that Han looking up his friend does not imply intergalactic internet anymore than it implies an intergalactic phone book, or an intergalactic 411 line.

ESPECIALLY considering that the internet didn't exist when ESB was written.

>>52563003
>Tablets weren't invented when Star Trek had datapads

>>52562991
>>52563000
And again, if we don't jump straight to assuming Lucas is a hack, doesn't the fact that when he can't find it in the Jedi archive he goes to Yoda, mean that he already checked other maps and it wasn't there, and Lucas just didn't bother to waste screentime on it?

Honestly, this is such a non issue that I start to think that prequel haters are just LOOKING for things to bitch about.
I mean, ANH has dumb shit worse than this.

>>52563003
>Han looking up his friend does not imply intergalactic internet anymore than it implies an intergalactic phone book, or an intergalactic 411 line.
That's literally an "intergalactic internet" by any other name

>>52563003
>>52563030
Lightsabers weren't a thing when ESB was written either.
How'd lucas know they'd exist in the future?

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>>52563043
Did you know, you can like the prequels without being autistic about it on a cambodian basket weaving forum?

>>52563030
What are you implying and how/why do you think it refutes my post?

>>52563047

>>52563047
>That's literally an "intergalactic internet" by any other name
Not at all.
411 lines existed far before the internet. They existed when ESB was written, unlike the internet.
>in the future?
pls be trolling

>>52563076
>What are you implying and how/why do you think it refutes my post?
He's telling you that a technology doesn't have to exist IRL for someone to write fiction about it. It totally invalidates your point.

Tell me how a space 411 line and a space internet are explicitly different in function or fuck off.

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>>52560928
>ripped from the headlines
I didn't mean to imply straight up political parallels, just adopting similar-looking aesthetics. I've just got a boner for the '80s/'90s US infantry aesthetic and that sweet chocolate chip camouflage. But seeing as we've had plenty of godforsaken desert rocks, woodland camo would also be welcome. It would certainly distance the look from any Middle East war parallels.

>>52563117
>Tell me how a space 411 line and a space internet are explicitly different in function or fuck off.
There's no difference in function. He sent a request for information and either someone directly replied, telling him about Lando, or there was already an article about it on the Holo.

>>52563117
>It totally invalidates your point.
No.
>Tell me how a space 411 line and a space internet are explicitly different in function or fuck off.
One is someone you call and they look things up for you with whatever books/resources they have on hand (which is a tiny tiny fraction of the knowledge on the internet.).

The other is a network of most of the information mankind has amassed as a species.

>>52563178
>No.
good argumend

>>52563166
>>52563117
>There's no difference in function.
A space 411 line has Jedi Temple quality starcharts?

>>52563195
depends. Do the Jedi run the space 411?
They might. Lucas never said they didn't

>>52563195
>A space 411 line has Jedi Temple quality starcharts?
The holo at the time of ESB wouldn't have this info either. The Imperials were trying to restrict the Holo for official use only.

/tv/ comes to /swg/ again. whooo!
can you faggots just stay on your own board so we can talk about tabletop here?

Were there any good YYY builds in the System Open tourneys this year?

>>52563207
This is an idiotic comment for two reasons.
1. if they the Jedi run the space 411 it would logically be with the maps the Jedi temple supplies
2. the Jedi don't exist during ESB

>>52563310
>the Jedi don't exist during ESB
Yoda wasn't a jedi?

>>52563000

True, but Jocasta Nu doesnt really think theres any way something could be removed from the archives - no one thinks the sith are about after all, so who would attack the Jedi in such a way?

As such, she sees no point.
Kenobi knows that if its gone from the Jedi archive, its probably gone from the Republic archives too, so he goes full gumshoe.

>>52563321
Are you trying to argue that one Jedi in a swamp ran the space 411 for the entire galaxy?

>>52563340
Me might have.
had a call center, he did.

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How would he work as a Star Wars villain?

What would the space equivalent of a ZSU/ZPU AAA Gun be?
I need it for an upcoming game

>>52563380
Exactly as is, just add force shiggy to daughter thingy maybe make him an imp

>>52563163

Yeah, I knew that's not your angle, just my split reaction was that I didn't know if I could trust a medium to pull from that aesthetic without treading close to parallels for ongoing IRL shit. Or looking like it anyway.

We could use a proper woodland fight again, the Kashyyyk sequence was pretty cool for five seconds in RoTJ, baring a bit of goof there was some good quality to Endor too. Starkiller Base was samurai as fuck with the snow and stuff but that's a different style anyway, fighting in some taiga.

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>>52563476

AT-AA. It's stated in Stay On Target with either a flak cannon pod mounted, or a giant concussion missile rack.

>>52563512
>the Kashyyyk sequence was pretty cool for five seconds in RoTJ
>He likes the lucas edits
>Probably hates yub nub too
wtf. Who is this faggot?

Who else misses the original ending to ROTJ like a motherfucker? It was so goddamn perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs

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>>52563512
I'd like to see some new environments/situations for Star Wars ground combat, too. Mountain, urban, and armored combat haven't really been covered all that much in films. Space Monte Cassino, Space Stalingrad, Space Kursk, and Space 73 Easting would be the tits, especially if Hell's Hammers make their triumphant return in the latter two.

>>52563539

I missed S for J while I was thinking about Endor.

That said, the Special editions came out when I was 4 so I wouldn't know the difference anyway. E-Wings are older than I am.

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>>52563512
>he likes the ending lucas edits to ROTJ

>>52563535
I wish these would show up in more material

>>52563865
>>52563539
Victory Celebration > Yub Nub

>>52548864
I like to imagine the guncutter my team uses in Dark Heresy looks like the Ebon Hawk.

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>>52563535
Yeah, when I saw those- rock hard fucking war machines!
Finally, something you can just plant around to dump MRL attacks or a hammering amount of flack explosions on rascally rebs. Neither configuration are something you want to trade shots with for too long or it'll be very attritive.
Some cheap as shit towed units would be pretty neat.

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>>52563865
>Phew, that sure was a heck of a journey
>Time sum it all up and bring it to a fitting close that will leave the viewer with something to take away from all this
>YUB NUB

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>>52565336
>Hating Yub Nub
Hi, Wedge.

>>52565254

Flak Cannons are brutal as hell.

The mere mention that an imperial armored repulsortrain had my players take serious strategizing steps and contingencies. It's their own fault for digging an LAAT/i out of a boneyard and using it in a prison break though.

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>>52565564
Heavy flack guns will turn TIE squadrons into tin foil all day long, they are truly scary shit.
God help anyone out in the open if they zero-degrees on their arse, some old school beehive time.
>Charlie on the wire?
>Not for much longer!

>>52555176
Command and colors: Star Wars. Basically Battlelore/Memoir 44 clone, but star wars. I like simpicity of Borg designs. Also, some sort of racing game, but in "filler" or more "light" form.

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>>52563865
>>52565006
>>52565336
>yub nub and localized celebration of victory in a group of lovable characters
or
>entire galaxy instantly figuring out that their emperor died, hundreds of thousands of personnel died with him, and lord vader died, and entire galaxy for whatever reason celebrates this

HMMM

HMMMMMMMMMMM

>>52566400
>celebrating in horrible cgi especially

>>52562857
The problem with the prequels is that Lucas was projecting his head canon and not something that would make any fucking sense.
>force sensitivity can be passed on genetically
>but Jedi can't fuck, so no eugenics program to create better servants of the light for you!

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So, I've never played this game before, and I'm rolling up a droid character which seems to get a lot of support as well as criticism from Googled sources. What's /swg/'s opinion on droid PCs?

Presently, I'm making a mechanic at 1/2/4/2/1/1 with double ranks in mechanics and skulduggery, Gearhead II, Fine Tuning I and Redundant Systems. I was planning on going further down the tree for Bad Motivator, but apparently I can't take talents past the second row to start. That leaves me with ten leftover XP, which I'm hoping will carry over til my next level or XP allowance, or whatever.

Was originally going to be an astromech but suggested something similar to a DUM pit droid design so I'd be a little better at scavenging and putting things together. After Bad Motivator, my general plan is to avoid solo facetime and battles and work in the background, running subterfuge on people's equipment and vehicles. Besides that, it's going to be the usual life of a pit droid, generally getting shit on by all aspects of life.

>>52566400
>>52566413
>>52566472
The terrible celebration scenes are also evidence of the lazy headcanon of Lucas, because ROTJ had the very genuine concern of "What happens now? Has the Rebellion just thrown the galaxy into total chaos? Have they fucked up?" Very genuine question and concern from fans. But instead of delving into it, explaining it, or even letting it be ambiguous, Lucas got a trial version of a CGI program, some interns, gave them $15 and said

>lol i know lets make the whole galaxy hate the empire and immediately know palpatine died and they all celebrate because fuck having difficult choices or unclear outcomes and use the worst cgi possible

>>52566400
can I have the former just without yub nub?

>>52561114
>The prequels are not even close to bad.
This shit again. Lucas dindu, mah 50`s when?

>>52563512
>everyone questions taste
>not 'Kashyyyk' as though it was actually in that sequence
Uh...

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>>52555176
Your dudes ground based wargame, with loads of custimization inherent in the multipart plastic kits. Focus it on the Galactic Civil War, adding units from EU, then eventually expand with prequel releases and eventually sequel once there's more meat to it.

Basically give me 40k with Star Wars.

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Any stats for Mara Jade for a game?

because re-reading a book she's in makes me remember how much I wanted to hit her in the face with a snowshovel. Repeatedly. What an annoying fucking waste of a character.

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>>52567132
>Basically give me 40k with Star Wars.

Star Wars Miniatures Battles was a thing in the early 90's, it just never managed to get traction despite great mini's and relatively good rules. Think possibly it was just trying to fit itself into an already quite packed market, there hadn't been any SW movies for decades.
WotC popped out Star Wars Miniatures in the early 00's through to 2010 or so- but damn their models where really spectacular. Don't quite know 'why' it didn't get anywhere, but for the most part it seemed to be really forgotten very quickly.

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So this might be a stupid question... but why is Ezra named Ezra?

>Like I said, Ezra was a prick. He was such an abusive, wrong-headed jerk that whole chunks elsewhere in scripture go out of their way to repudiate his ideology and behavior. That’s why Ruth is in the canon. It’s why Ruth is in every story of David and why Ruth is in the genealogies of Jesus in the Gospels. Oh, and pretty much everything the Gospels and Acts have to say about Samaritans.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2017/02/06/ezra-isnt-good-guy-story/

Some biblical names have entered into common usage, but Ezra isn't common at all. It's fairly obscure. It's a good, biblical-sounding name, but it's the kind of name you pick from a list of good, biblical-sounding names without looking into it too much.

But is there another interpretation? Could the writers actually be going for some kind of allegorical meaning here?

>>52567405

The whole ghost crew is named off biblical or mythological concepts.

>>52567405
Because it sounds cool

>>52567405
Pseudo-deep narrative nonsense resulting from careless and hack-fraud writing, just like everything to come out of the new canon.

>>52567132
>Basically give me 40k with Star Wars.
Pls, no.

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>>52567430
Reeeally? That's interesting.

Hera's obvious. I've always though Sabine was hilarious, considering the famous incident of the Sabine Women. I really hope that's not what the writers were thinking about when they picked the name.

But Kanan? {Gara}zeb? Fucking Chopper?

>>52567459
Men, now Legacy was top tier...

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>>52567449
>Because it sounds cool
>Pseudo-deep narrative nonsense resulting from careless and hack-fraud writing

Now, see, you might be right, but I was kind of hoping for more than a guess.

>>52567475
5% of it,that 5% of it being Pellaeon and Thrawn.

The other 95% was almost complete fecal matter, though at least it was only moderately repulsive, unlike the pure unholy rancidness that Disney's shoveling out.

>>52567468
>But Kanan?
Probably a variation of Cainen or Kane which was often historically used to avoid the biblical connotation of- Cain the first murderer

>Garazeb
Probably means something in some language, or they just cludged a whole heap of letters together like the Polish do :p

>Chopper
I reckon it comes from the fact he's a mix of bits, like chopper motorcycles.

>>52567405
Why am I named Paul? Because it was my grandfather's name and my parents liked it.

>>52567535
>cludged a whole heap of letters together like the Polish do :p
This.

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>>52567590
And even then, it's a good respectable name.

If your granfather had been called Gaylord, you probably wouldn't have got his name, because of the connotations.

Aside from that, Ezra is not a common name.

>There are 3,845,372 people in the U.S. with the first name David.
>There are 1,543,668 people in the U.S. with the first name Paul.
>There are 11,362 people in the U.S. with the first name Ezra.

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>>52567844
>>52567590

Oh, and for reference

>There are 6,493 people in the U.S. with the first name Gaylord.

>>52567854
I thought, half of US should be called Gaylord.

>>52567854
And none of them survived past the age of 12

>>52567894

Well half of the US that uses the internet has been CALLED Gaylord by someone on an opposing team in Halo at some point, so there's that.

>>52567405
They spoke about this at a panel once

Ezra Bridger = Era Bridge

WEG 4 lyfe

>>52568019
this

>>52566536
>He doesn't even know what the lyrics of Yub Nub mean.
It's the perfect way to end the trilogy. Go look up the translation.

>>52563512
>the Kashyyyk sequence was pretty cool for five seconds in RoTJ,
... I think this anon meant "RotS", as in Ep.3 and not Ep.6, but please, /swg/, don't let that get in the way of a good screaming match.

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>>52568019
>>52568249
I respect your opinion, but politely disagree.

>>52567405
Because the jews have complete control over Hollywood. The same reason that Daisy "Bulging eyes means acting" Ridley is named Rey Mixer.

>>52570195
>The same reason that Daisy "Bulging eyes means acting" Ridley is named Rey Mixer.
Is there an actual official source for this or are you just following rumors? Every piece of Star Wars media featuring her that I've seen (Lego Star Wars, that one mobile game, etc.) has not given her a surname yet.

>>52567489
My biggest question is why did they rip-off the uniforms of the royal guard, but hey, it's disney so its must be cool

>>52570847
My guess is to put space burkas to add to the not-Jerusalem aesthetic Jedha City has going.

>>52570481
It's literally a rumor that /pol/ made up out of thin air so they could be butthurt about it

>>52570481
>Starts with Jewish Conspiracy theory
>Official source

Yeah I don't think he has an official source

>>52554582
Normally I like his designs, but the Dread is just not very good.

>>52570898
Well... Why the red ? Why the pikes ? "Staff mounted censor"... Seems cumbersome to me....

I don't like it, it reminds me too much of the royal guards and take me out of the movie, even if I enjoyed it.

>>52571049
my personal conjecture is they decided to make them red to stand out in the background, realized that they look like royal guards and decided to roll with it.

Headcanon I think of it as the outfit of some ancient religious warrior monk order, hence why we see it repeated throughout the setting. (Neo-Crusaders, Disciples of the Whills, Royal guards)

>>52562681
That scene I had no problem with. Some of the battle scenes and all of the romance (If you don't isolate and mute the dialogue track) were bad however.

>>52562865
>>52562883
>>52562899
I figured he always knew Lando ran Cloud City and just checked the map to see that Bespin was within range of his Backup Hyperdrive (or sublight if you take the sequence literally and ignore the issue of travel time.)

>>52562963
Also Kamino is OUTSIDE the Galaxy itself, the Rishi Maze is a satelite Galaxy.

>>52571175
>some of the battle scenes
>Implying that Episode II doesn't have the coolest battles in the prequels, even with the old CGI

>>52565686
Yes, though since this is a space fantasy setting the facts of how powerful Flak would be with no gravity or atmosphere is ignored.
Or maybe repulsorlifts can double as low power particle shielding?

>>52563512
>>52563512
>the Kashyyyk sequence was pretty cool for five seconds in RoTJ
Yeah having them stand up was dumb, also as much as I like the hull design on the AT-AP, having a space StuG that needs to stand UP to aim its main casemate gun

>>52567405
>>52568009
That's such a bad pun that George must have shed a tear of pride when Filoni told him about it. I thought they named him that because there was an Error when rendering the Bridge of his nose.

>>52571291
Is aid SOME of the Battle Scenes.
The vehicle segments of the battle scenes and the Obi-Wan Jango battle were good, I even liked the final jedi battle.

All the infantry sections of the main battle were abominations.

How about in the seen where Han thinks of Lando, he was just looking at local starcharts, saw bespin, though to himself where have I heard that before, then exclaimed 'Lando!' as it came to him?
I didn't get a sense of any communication going on at all in that scene. Seems pretty silly do go on comms when the imperials are looking for you.

>>52571303

Repulsors could probably ablate debris, or ships would require some sort of micrometeor shielding in some form. Even if it is space fantasy there's still some space involved. That said, an actually detonating live Flak round would probably move too quick for some low-powered prevention like that to catch it, you'd mostly want to rely on full deflector shielding.

Or you wear a vacuum suit like a TIE pilot and hope this isn't like one of those mecha animes where you end up with shrapnel heroically embedded in your chest in the cockpit.

>>52548291
That overtuned mess bloated with % calculations and extra dice rolls? Pass.

>>52570966
The official art book, dipshit.

Running a SAGA game, Dawn of Defiance. So I wanted to introduce a Jedi antagonist, so I was going to have him gone dark side after Order 66, and is utterly obsessed with hurting the Empire and everyone in it, with an emphasis on killing people he had served with during the Clone Wars. Also likes collateral damage, and thinks the secretary at the front desk of a COMPNOR office deserves death too. That sort.

I also wanted to introduce an Inquisitor who isn't a complete cock mongler. Got some training from a holocron he found that belonged to a Revanite before the Empire took over from the Republic, so he doesn't go with the DARK SIDE ONLY, FORCE CHOKE, FINAL DESTINATION route, and is careful about that in front of his peers and superiors.

I could use an idea or two to have the players meet these two interacting. And deciding who they want to support. The morally reprehensible Jedi who gets results fighting the Empire, but doesn't mind the typical Joe dying in collateral, or the Inquisitor who simply wants to support the people, hunt genuinely bad force users, and advance himself legitimately in a corrupt system.

I was thinking about the Jedi discovering the Padawan in the group, and asking for her and her friends' help in bombing or destroying a COMPNOR office or military base/spaceport, and they see him get people killed while the Inquisitor is actively trying to save lives, but I'm not sure.

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>>52574704
>le evil Jedi
>le noncanon grey Jedi revan

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>>52575521
Revan wasn't even officially gray. He just keeps flipping between Jedi and Sith. Revan's morality is a regular light switch, not a dimmer switch.

>>52575521
Just a clumsy way of showing that not everyone in the Empire is evil. The holocron thing is easily omitted. And why should canonicity matter? It's a tabletop game. Legends has great (and terrible) stuff in it.

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>>52575654
And there are plenty of less silly-sounding ways to go about that. A Saw/Pellaeon contrast would be more sensible.

>>52574072
I think that's supposed to be referencing that it's a mixer (more than one media type) of rey

>>52575701
Probably. The main antagonists of DoD are an Inquisitor and an imperial officer. I suppose I could try and think up another officer as a foil to Varth.

Anyone have a good High rez pic of the galaxy map in the FFG Rpg books?

So me and my friend just picked up a deck each and a bunch of boosters for Star Wars Destiny, and I realised one thing; the characters I got I can't play with the 2-Dice options, as I only get one die in each booster. Do I seriously need to pick up the same card twice to get both dice? Is there no way around this? I suppose rolling the dice twice to signify, but what the fuck man.

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>>52576842
This the one you're looking for?

>>52576842
>>52577801
There's also this one, from a different angle than most SW maps http://www.edgeent.com/sisimg/downloadable/galaxy_map.jpg

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>>52568009
>Ezra Bridger = Era Bridge

That's disappointing, but honestly, it could be worse. There was an attempt.

>>52570195
>Because the jews have complete control over Hollywood.

Oh boy, here we go again.

That does make total sense though. I mean, look at Watto! What a tasteful Zionist insert into a movie. He really adds a touch of class. The hollywood illuminati's finest hour.

>>52570931
Yup.
>>52570966
Oh, I'm sure he has lots of official sources. They just aren't creditable. Or accurate. Or useful.

>>52571303
>That's such a bad pun that George must have shed a tear of pride when Filoni told him about it.

George does love his puns.

>>52579089

Damn you, 1939.

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>>52546524
So my LGS is doing a Top Gun league soon, and I want to fly the TIE/SF.

The issue is that I have no idea what to give them.

For those not aware, the format is

- 60 points.
- 2 ships with 30 points per ship, or 3 ships with 20 points per ship
- Generic pilots only
- All ships in your squad must be the same.

This gives me 30 points to make a TIE/SF build, and then I clone it.

I am thinking an Omega Squadron with FCS, LWF, and VI, but I could also do Adaptability and Primed Thrusters, or I could bring Crack Shot or the like.

Ideas? I have no idea how to build a 30 point TIE/SF.

Also, if anyone can come up with a primarily red paint scheme for a TIE/SF so that these guys can match the rest of my Top Gun squads, that would be great.

On Motti getting choked out in A New Hope.

Having rewatched the scene, he called Vader's 'sorceror ways' a 'sad devotion' to an 'ancient religion' that failed to bring them the Death Star plans... or the secret Rebel Base.

He's basically stating that if the Force is so powerful, why are they even having this conversation in the first place? Why not Force the data tapes or the location?

It's less: I don't believe in Jedi.

And more: You're not hot shit.

Fuck it, I'm rewatching the movies (all of them (except maybe 1))
Dubs picks my viewing order?

>>52579773
Reverse.

>>52579773
OT, the OT again and then ANH.

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There are people in this thread that believe Yoda and Sidious dueling each other with lightsabers is anything but pure shit.

>>52579773
Machete order with Rogue One right before ANH and TFA at the end

>>52579773
>>52579939
Machete order with TFA right before ANH and R1 at the end

>>52579773
Watch ANH, pause at the right moment and watch this, ESB, III, RoTJ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hN74bOubUug

>>52563476
A basic starship quad or possibly paired autoblasters, with it's own generator would be about the equivalent of the towed models (The ZU-23 and ZPU)
A light speeder with a quad turret would be about the space version of the ZSU-23-4 SPAAG

Just pressed play on TPM for the first time in like 7 years. Wish me luck.
It's not as bad as I remember, is it?

>>52580226
It's worse than you remember

>>52580280
This.

>>52580280
>>52580303
7 minutes in so far.
It's not good. But it's far from the worst episodes of Rebels or Clone Wars.
I can feel it's gonna take a dive real soon.

>>52580321
Just wait until darth binks shows up

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>>52580321
>Someone is liveblogging TPM on /swg/

Oh I've been waiting for this day for a LONG time

>>52580366
14 min in now. Jar Jar is here but he's not as annoying as I remember yet. He's clearly autistic (his facial gestures and pacing are so fucked) but it seems like it's mostly just a matter of the technology being shit.
It's a late 90's SciFi. The effects are accordingly shitty.
I think what could have helped this movie more than anything would be Lucas or the producer saying "Let's take it all down a notch, to something we can do with the effects technology we have"

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>>52580321
It has some cool bits with Master 'fuck the law' Qui-Gon, just doing some player character shenanigans

>>52580366
I have honestly considered canonising him in rpg's in the past as sort of the Emperors jester that wanders the galaxy entertaining the masses and saying what Palps wants him to say.
Then seeing if the PC's take the bait to murder him

>>52580498
>The PCs take the bait
And find out that he's actually a Sith Lord, with relevant stats?

>>52580442
Kinda wish the droids would shoot at least one person so they seem like some kind of a threat...

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>>52557001
Okay its supposed to be a very simple design. One central spine with smaller chambers and an engineering compartment near the back end, with a small contol tower on the back to give you vision lines over the bow and rough control surfaces. Most of the internal bulkheads are surrounded by mag-clamped cargo containers around the spine. Then small armor plates mag clamped over those containers.

I would love a 5ft square grid cross section though.

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>>52580567
Was thinking more along the lines of a large amount of hardcore Compforce troops that are probably not openly hating the alien... but not able to do much about it, so that just makes them hate everything and everyone that little more than usual. Small unit of either Deathtroopers or Dudes in Red which are the sharp end of 'problem solving' when anti-Empire sentiment pokes its head out when detected by associated intelligence units.

Force using enemies are something I always used extremely sparingly, though I reserve the right to spend a darkside point and have Jar Jar fall over something and set off a Rube Goldberg chain of events

>>52580577
But Jedi cut them down, like butter.

>>52580577
>Entire scenes in space-moonspeak
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea? They aren't even subtitled!

>>52568019
Yup.

>>52566477
Nothing wrong with Droid PCs but you should put every possible XP point into stats when you start.

>>52567314
>that set of minis

fuck I miss star wars minis so much

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>>52580651

>>52580974
Cap's quarters is where the bridge would be tho

>>52563606
>Space Stalingrad

Stalingrad small potatoes. Think about what an urban fight looks like on Nar Shadda. Or Coruscant. 3D combat that's block to block but in a large enough space that light spacecraft could get involved, across millions of cubic kilometers of prime real estate.

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>>52581009
And Leia remembers her mother's face.

Deal with it.

>Pod racer scene ends
>"Oh, sweet, it's almost over"
>look at time remaining
FUCK. The worst thing about this movie is that it's just boring. I don't care about Jar Jar or the effects, it's just a boring plot line. They could have sped this shit up like a motherfucker.

>>52581025

For the 2nd trilogy, Lucas definitely made his intricate set-pieces and then flogged the ever-loving hell out of them. If you make it out of a bit of scenery in less than five minutes, it just means you're going to see it three more times. Minimum It's a little less... organic? than some of the set progression of the OT and causes the movies to collectively drag.

I think that's some of the appeal of the newer material -- you get back to being somewhere for a brief instance, and then you move on. Flows more like normal human lives do, and therefore produces a more approachable narrative.

>>52581289
Yeah, the prequels are definitely more commercial. It really takes the heart and soul out of what "Star Wars" meant during the OT

Alright. Time to start AotC

>>52579089
Watto is actually supposed to be Sicilian, not Jewish.

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>>52581289
The PT stories did tend to be a bit 'jumpy' in the sense the introduction, story, conclusion are very clearly defined. They do very much stand alone, rather than feeling like they're part of the series
Ultimately, love them or hate them, the Clone Wars series actually filled in a huge amount of the gaps and at least made Anakin more of a 'tragic figure' than the annoying pain in the arse he was in the films

Whereas in the OT and newer movies are a bit more fuzzy in that you get a clear introduction, but the story and conclusion are often a lot more blurry by leading onto the next movie in the series. Or even in the case of R1, that leads into Ep4, but you had that ending where you see exactly why Vader is on the rag and Leia's ship wasn't just some random "pull over you punk!" by the cops and then drunkenly "you'll never take me alive copper!" starts shooting at the space police.
Not exactly the hardest thing to do in story telling, but for those of us who always wondered just why this shit fight was happening over Tatooine, it does fill in the blanks there.

To some extent, I think there's a bit of push-back with TFA as there's just a bit too open ended and we're not quite sure what the next step with Skywalker and Rey is. I mean, fuck he could have at least said something...
The rest is just JJ fucking it up and leaving plot holes everywhere like he always does! :)

>>52581651
>"You've made a commitment to the Jedi Order, a commitment not easily broken"
>a few years later, during the biggest war the Jedi ever fought, Ahsoka is allowed to just walk away

>>52581756
>but for those of us who always wondered just why this shit fight was happening over Tatooine, it does fill in the blanks there.
There were people who wondered this?

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Guys, what's the easiest way to make a Mando that isn't cringey?

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>>52581859
Live, die, and live again.

>>52581846
Its 1977, where the fuck did the plans and all these ships come from?
We know soon after the introduction that there are plans, but we never knew the how

>>52581831
>Ahsoka just walked away

They kicked her out, asked her to come back, and she turned them down.

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>>52581665
Sure...

>>52581859
Clearly you use that as your character art and slut it up.

>>52581859
Subvert expectations, but always make sure they have at least a little fight in them. Don't just play a proud warrior race guy, because that's been done to death by now. Don't make a pacifist, because then what was the point of making a Mando in the first place?

I've only played with one mandalorian so far and he's one of my favorite characters from our games. My friend plays him as a cowardly duplicitous sneak, honor-bound by his dead relatives to avenge them upon another clan, but not really motivated to run into their house guns-blazing. So he joined the rest of the party pretending to be a badass mandalorian warrior when he's really just our smuggler and droid technician, ducking behind cover while we do all the fighting against the Empire, looking for droid parts and machinery he can use to steadily build his own army of battle droids to get this whole avenging business over and done with. He doesn't stick his head out from cover unless he has the biggest gun in the room, uses his droids to fight our battles for us, and always attempts to run away from our random encounters.

Fuck, I can't do it.
I'm half an hour into AotC. They're doing the whole 50's diner shit and Anakin's doing the whole "Jedi are really encouraged to love, padime. Will you sleep with me now?" thing.
I give up.
Fuck Star Wars.
I sat through Phantom MeanAss and my biggest complaint was that it's just plain boring.
AotC is worse than that, it's outright offensive.

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>>52582075
It's okay, anon. You can stop with the PT now. Let the healing begin.

>>52567405

Suddenly Ezra Levant's xenophobic twattishness makes a lot more sense.

>>52581859
>>52581993
Might as well post my concept and see what /tg/ thinks.
>18 year old kid from a nowhere minor Mando colony on the edge of Mandalorian space, ruled by a minor House of no particular importance
>Grew up in a traditional style clan fortress hearing Traviss-style Mandaboo stories about how the Mandalorians were once the Scourge of the Republic and the terror of the Jedi
>So he strikes out on his own to make his clan and House proud and live up to those legends and walks face first into a war-torn galaxy that has largely forgotten that Mandalorians are even a thing, spouting off about "Muh warrior pride" to Clone Wars veterans and earning an asskicking for his troubles.
>Genuinely more talented as a mechanic than a soldier
>Personal arc is getting over "Muh warrior pride", sucking up that he is a rank newbie and learning from professionals to gradually transition into an actual warrior badass instead of a punk kid
>Assuming his creditors don't skin him alive first.
Good or cringey, /tg/?

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>>52582187
I know, right? Certainly lives up to his namesake.

I'm pretty sure he'd consider the biblical Ezra a hero though.

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>>52582075
Aw come on, embrace the suck!

>>52546524
What happens when a Landspeeder hits a person in FFG Star Wars?

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>>52582075
>>52582434
>Its another Reddit letter media rerun again...
I hate this episode.

>>52582190
As someone who hates Fandalorians, this sounds good to me.

>>52582661
It's a serious question, just happened in my gaming group.

>>52582434
Hit and run house rules exist on the forums. Something like Damage = Silhouette x Speed. Disorient, vicious and knockdown = silhouette. Really you could just take the move/toss rules too.

>>52580897
but why? wouldn't having some lightly buffed stats and a good start on talents be a more sensible approach, especially with mechanic, who really shines with later talents?

>>52568544

I shouldn't have to do that to get anything out of it other than irritation and disappointment. Victory Celebration is GOAT, and people dislike because they aren't willing to admit that the special editions brought one good change to the movies.

>>52583405
I support updating the Emperor's holo image to not have the one giant eye.

>>52583369
Tbh you should always go full stats no matter the race or spec.