Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

>>52454636 #
>implying GW isn't trying to phase death out of the setting because it doesn't fit, and replace it with a construct or golem faction or something dumb

first for the new battletome probably being filth and breaking the game

This is what you get for being collaberators

gw is going to shit on you just as easily as they shit on fantasyfags

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>>52454995
>migrate to a lizard-free zone
*crashes down on a meteor behind you*
back the fuck off???

>>52455037
Well they went about it in a weird way considering they squatted the entire line that had constructs.

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feel the hype for shadow aelves!

also steam punk dwarves are awesome

>>52455115
Fuck off. You guys are worse than reddit rats.

>come from immigrant ships
>you guys fuck our women
>don't even offer your women as exchange
>YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN HAVE FEMALES
Fuck you.

>>52455084
You wanna explain your outburst there, champ?

>>52455152
ackshually, with the lizardmen now being whatever the slann "remember" them as, even though they still seem to use spawning pools there's nothing from some neckbearded slann remembering his sauruses as female.

>>52455152
>reddit rats
can somebody explain what this meme is about?

>>52455196
Nothing stopping some neckbearded slann, even

>>52455216
>Skaven steal all the good shit from 40k Orks and leave Orcs&Goblins boring as fuck
>fantasy tyranids
>act retarded and still get away with plot armor
>Mannlet von Carstein and Reddit Rats killed Fantasy

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>>52454104
>>52454311
Its the heads, mantics skeleton heads look goofy as fuck. But dont rule them out totally, with the spare bits from your skeletons and graveguard you can make them look alot better with your spare heads. Just something to think about if you need more skeletons and dont want to pay GW prices.

Reminder that GW only licenses the old world for games because theyre embarassed of AoS

>>52455039
>probably being filth and breaking the game

maybe the right thing to do is stop fighting the cyclical obsolescence model and embrace the idea of buying and painting a new army at least once a year to stay relevant in the meta.

its not like GW cares anyways

>>52455272
You'd know all about being an embarassment, wouldn't you, Anon?

>>52455292
Nice attack on my character, really hurt :^)

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>>52455115
>*gnaws through reality behind u*

Nothin' personnel...lizard-thing...

>>52455269
The mantic heads look so much better, they give off a really fun but terrifying vibe.

>>52455272
Actually it's because GW doesn't actively look to make video games. They have a policy of having devs come to them and ask for licensing and work a contract out on a studio by studio basis, and at the moment, devs are coming up to ask to use the old fantasy setting, most likely because it's got 30 years of established backstory, lore, and concept art which removes the majority of work on projects. When a dev comes to request making an AoS game, then we will see an AoS game

>Endrinriggers

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>>52454626
Anybody willing to help an orruk out?

>>52455245
>they are bad so we call then reddit
Is that it or is there a subtle reference i am missing?
>>52455317
This makes me wonder how changed are skaven now that they are daemons? Can they do some cool shit? How different are they from before?

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>Tfw no Battletome
>Tfw they still release new AoS but don't make a Fucking nice looking Battletome with some art or lore
>mfw it'd be easy as hell and they could use some Horus Heresy money to fund it

>>52455466
Just out of curiosity, why don't you buy what you like and think is good and then try and figure out the game later instead of asking for good things right away?

>>52455466
Get another box of Brutes and a Start Collecting box. Add an Ironfist battalion, and you have a good 1000 points army.

>>52455478
That's it, it's just bait to trigger Skavenfags.

>>52455480
They could release that for the dozen or so people who actually want it or they could just keep churning out Heresy stuff which basically prints money for them.
Easy Choice.

>>52455216
skaven XD

>>52455478
>This makes me wonder how changed are skaven now that they are daemons?

They're not daemons.

>>52455512
Ah i actually thought there was some story behind it. And i guess reddit and skaven kind of fit well together in a way.

>>52455269
>goofy as fuck
Fuck that, the expression of the Mantic skeletons is my favorite part. The're like Army of Darkness evil dickbag skeletons with leering faces and emotion.

>>52455615
Ah i thought with the horned rat being a god they were daemons. Well thank you.

>>52455478
>they are bad so we call then reddit
>Is that it or is there a subtle reference i am missing?
Skaven larpers in these threads are just as obnoxious and annoying as redditors with their fake mannerisms and shitty, pop-culture reference-based humour.

>>52455795
>redditors pop-culture reference-based humour
Yes they do it in a more cancerous way, but everyone jokes like that, both in 4chan and irl. Don't make it an absolute.

>>52455795
>fake mannerisms

?

>>52455196

Or kroxistuds to cuck inferior humans, aelves and dawi.

LIZARD DICK, ITS AWIGHT

>>52455478

Skaven dont matter in AoS, infact Archaon snubbed their shitty god and he is the only chaosboy remotely competent after the Age of Chaos made Chaos weak, lazy and fat.

>>52455881
The real question is, could a Slann just say fuck it and make them not dinosaurs? If they can look like whatever the Slann feel like.

>>52455952
Yep.

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>>52455795
>This triggers the man-thing

>>52455952
>could a Slann just say fuck it and make them not dinosaurs?
why would they make things that aren't dinosaurs? those things are shit

>>52455517
Yeah but they could use like a fraction of a fraction of Horus Heresy profits to make it.

How do I into Orruks? Also are there any other destruction factions?

What's their place in fluff?

>>52456060
They fuck shit up.

Orruks, Ogors, Troggoths, Grots, Gargants, all are in Destruction.

>>52456092
Technically fimir too, but that's forgeworld only.

>>52456019

No one cares

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>>52456012
>>52455952

>>52456092
How would you describe their play style? I'm very new to AoS

>>52456238
Depends on faction, really. Anything caught your eye?

>>52456203
You make a compelling counter argument.

>>52456249
I like most of it but especially Ironjawz and Maw Krushas.

I like the look of the Troll Hag model, I know she's destruction but what sort of army specifically she'll fit well in to?

>>52456179
I c-care

>>52456334
Ironjawz are pretty elite heavy, you'll be fielding a small number of models, and they're basically melee only.

They aren't that good, but they're not terrible.

You'll probably want to get some Bonesplitter Arrowboyz in to add some shooting, if you're not after pure Ironjawz.

>>52455699
Nope. Just thing of them as Beastmen except focused solely on the Great Horned Rat.

>>52456060
There's Armored Orruks, Nigga Orruks, Shitty Orruks, Spider-spider-spider Grots, Klan Grots, Shitty Grots, Trogdors, and Ogors Escaping Fimbulvinter.

>>52456335
A troll* army. Shocker, I know.

*Troggoths are trolls.

>>52455466
Ironfist is incredibly powerful especially on games below 1500 points just run 2 5x brutes 10 ardboys warchanter shaman and a megaboss

>>52456335
>>52456586
Sadly there is currently no way of playing a Troll-Army no Trolls can be chosen as battleline so youre forced into 3 units of grots minimum

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Can I use PayPal with mantic? As much as I hate their models, I don't want to spend $120 on 40 skeles alone (and I need exactly 40)

>>52456835
>hating Mantic skellies
Trash-tier opinion confirmed. For skeletons, ghouls, and zombies, Mantic are on fuckin' point. That said, yes.

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>>52456889
The only reason i don't like them is that their faces are too exaggerated. I like how the GW ones are basically just a pile of bones walking around, not feeling

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>>52456938
I mean, I guess I can understand that, but I can't imagine ever preferring blank-faced skeletons to a bunch of malicious, Dark Age skellingtons with hate and violence on their faces. More than anything, it's how much expression comes into those faces with just a bit of work on the eyes.

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>>52456976
>that dude with the Yin-yang shield
Christ alive, that is a rapeface.

>>52456976
Like I'll probably get them, it's just that they only come with one standard and one instrument. I've got some spare standards, but idk what I'll do about the horn.

Are blood warriors or blood reavers any good? Doing a daemons-bloodbound-slaves to darkness mixed army.

>>52457046
Fair enough. You do get some nice little quirky bits and bobs as well, though. The skeleton clawing out of the earth is a particular favorite, and I can't say no to the skeletal doggo.

Wait, how many skeles in a TK box? My lgs has some TK skeles left on shelf. If 20, what I could do is get a box of them, get a tomb herald to use as a wight king with blade, and then get 2 boxes of GW skeles and use the axe wight. This way, I can get even more of the "allies in death" theme (I'm running two wight kings in 1k)

>>52457136
>TK skele box
Sixteen. :^)

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Trying to decide on what style of basing to do for my Sylvaneth, I'm thinking of snow over a grey green.
Although maybe something darker would make the light bark pop a bit more

>>52457171
yup . Dark base will pop that amazing bark more

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>>52457168
Wtf. Welp, mantic it is then

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>>52457171
Grey with snow and blood-red grasses. White logs on bigger bases, perhaps. I wouldn't necessarily go as far as pic related, but using some more of that beautiful bright red in grasses would nicely work to unify it all together while making the mini pop.

>>52457206
red grass does sound cool, I think i'll definitely look into that.

>>52457171
I would honestly go with a lush dark green. With the pale and muted colors you've chosen for the body a nice grassy base will make it stand out while driving home the "force of capital N Nature" thing.

>>52457244
you got red leafs on model already so using that colour on base will make base go better with rest ( but still use red in little portions with black or bronze earth)

>>52455466
Groin Kikka here, I see you used my pic.Noice.

Would you guys recommend total war? I've never played a game from the series.

>>52456003
Case and point

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>>52457856
>case and point

>>52457896
Rat posters are a real diamond dozen.

>>52457817

Total Warhammer is great, but if you've never played any from the series and you don't want to take the plunge on something full-priced right away, get Medieval 2: Total War. It's basically Total Warhammer with the magic cropped out and all the armies are Empire and Bretonnia smashed together, but the core gameplay is basically the same. It should be enough to let you know if Total War games are up your alley or not.

>>52457817

>>52458116 here again

If you do like Total War, be prepared to lose huge amounts of time to it. They're the kind of game where a complete campaign can span a long ass time and single play sessions can cause you to lose track of time. Bigger battles can easily last for up to an hour if you aren't the kind of player to use auto-resolve.

>>52455269

Best conversions yet. I didn't think there was another kit, other than the zombies from mantic, that was worth getting. Thanks for proving me wrong.
And yea, if your aiming for an "army of the dead" theme, >>52455359 & >>52455685 are right, but not all are interested in making that type of army theme.

>Complaining about GW pricing

Dude, its 2017, grow up.

>>52458252
>I want a death army
>but I don't want an army of the dead
Wut. And yeah, you really can't go wrong with Mantic skeleton bodies even if you want to plug on JewDub heads onto them. It's also nice that they have vaguely uniform armor and the like which helps to make them look a lot more regimental than GW's more random collection of shit.

And the Mantic ones just have a lot of fun bits to them, as well. Always loved their undead models that are clawing their way out of the grave.

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How's this look for my intro to aos? I've ordered the mantic skeles now. Idk the death allegiance stuff and artifacts (help appreciated), or which wight to make general. The theme I'm going to go with is that two kings, allied in life, have joined forces once again in death, seeking to reclaim their kingdoms long since lost.

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Wight King with Black Axe (120)
- General
Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120)
Necromancer (120)

Battleline
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Spear & Shield

Units
5 x Hexwraiths (160)

Summoning
5 x Hexwraiths (160)

Total: 1000/1000

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>>52458571
Make the Wight King with tomb blade your general and give him Red Fury and a Tomb Blade.

Best combination.

>>52458350

Yea, believe it or not, but not everyone digs the whole goofy style. Some actually likes the grim derp era.

>>52458717
I'd be hard-pressed to call these grim derp. Just derp. I'm sure there are good skeleton heads out there if you just want plain skeletal faces, but GeeDub's always just looked silly to me. And the randomized gear only made it worse.

>>52458682
I was just reading them. Why not put that on the axe wight? And why not go with ruler of the night + sword of unholy power? Wouldn't that give a 100% chance on the summon and hard to kill skeles?

>>52455084
okay poorfags

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>>52455084
What?

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>>52458755
Speaking of derp, forgot to include the image. The skulls bothered me way back when I played Tomb Kings as well, since that dumb open mouth was in the TK box as well, but theirs had enough clothing and armor on the heads to allow me to mitigate it.

>>52458775
Personally, my money's usually on Ruler of the Night. It's a really solid bonus, and helps to anchor your bone boys that much more.

>>52458775
Put an infernal banner on the wight king, get tougher skellies anyway.

>>52458826
But even tougher skeles with both are better, right? And won't the axe eight have a greater wound potential than the blade wight, so if I went with fury+blade, wouldn't it be better to tos it onto axe wight?

>>52458854
Go for it if you think it's better.

>>52458854
Not the dude you're talking to, but I'd definitely agree with that. Not that I'd fuss with Red Fury anyway. Skeletons and zombies alike are attribution forces who will their battles less through being able to make mince-meat of things as they do simply enduring and persisting. My vote would always be Ruler of the Night on a Wight King with an Infernal Banner. That fucker turns into a rock to anchor your skeletons through damn near anything.

The axe makes a great hero-killer, though, thanks to its rule. It's a real shame that the one you want to anchor in place is the one that gets a mounted option, as opposed to the one you want to hunt down heroes.

>>52458908
So which artifact would you recommend? I can still toss a tomb blade to the axe wight, or I could also give something a sword of unholy power, for that surefire summon.

>>52458955
I'd stick with the Tomb Blade. The automatic summon is nice, but if a botched summon loses the game for you, you have bigger issues. And again, the Tomb Blade builds upon further helping to anchor your line. The only mild issue is I don't believe you can use it in tandem with single-wound models, but I might be wrong about that.

Speaking of which, don't necessarily think that 160 points of summoning -has- to be a hexwraith. It can just as easily be more skeletons, and you don't have to put them towards anything until you summon. It's just a 160 point summoning pool, not 160 reserving to summon hexwraiths.

>>52458995
Fair enough, but I can only summon 10 skeles at a time.

>>52459010
Most likely, yes. But there's always the chance of getting a combination of 5's and 6's. And even if you only summon 10, that's still a unit of chaff that you can toss out there to block charge lanes and generally gum up your opponent's plans.

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DEATH SUPPORT WHEN GW
-- Arkhan's Vanguard (Death) --
>Leader
Arkhan The Black Mortarch of Sacrament - 340
Necromancer - 120

>Battleline
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60
10x Zombies - 60

>Behemoth
Mourngul - 400

>Other
2x Morghast Archai - 240
5x Hexwraiths - 160
5x Hexwraiths - 160
Summoning Points - 400
--2000 points

All i want is a Vampire Battletome that isn't Shitgol

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Leaders
Necromancer (120)

Necromancer (120)

Coven Throne (260)
- General
- Trait: Ruler of the Night
- Artefact: Cursed Book

Battleline

5 x Blood Knights (260)

5 x Blood Knights (260)

10 x Zombies (60)

10 x Zombies (60)

10 x Zombies (60)

6 x Spirit Hosts (240)

Units

1 x Corpse Cart (80)

Behemoths

Mortis Engine (180)

300 Summoning

2000/2000

http://www.strawpoll.me/12641373

What alliance/alliances do you guys play/collect?

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>>52459539
>Orderfags
Chaos/Death reporting

does the old world still exist?

>>52459781
Yes, as a glowing hot ball of metal above Sigmar's palace.

>>52459781
As a whole? No.

The core is orbited by Sigmar's capital of Azyrheim, and there are apparently chunks of it scattered around the Mortal Realms.

>>52459813
>and there are apparently chunks of it scattered around the Mortal Realms.
nope

>>52455145
>feel the hype for shadow aelves!
But anon, none wants Dark Eldar 2.0
Also
>dat pic
>"banished from my own homeland. And now you dare enter my realm..."

>>52460115
>Not wanting DE 2.0
What are you? A Casual?

>>52460151
But updating them would make it so they AREN'T DE 2.0

>>52460161
>Not making them dogmatic religious zealots around their new Dragon God King that want to purge all non Aelf life

>>52460151
>wanting another piece of monotone borring armor for edgykids

>>52460196
>Dark Eldar
>boring
pick 1 and only 1

>>52460233
>Dark Eldar
>not borring
No u, pick one

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>>52460273
Still better than any of the current AoS factions lore though, bar maybe Sylvaneth
>Not like Space Pirate Mafia Elves

>>52460295
>Still better than any of the current AoS factions lore though,
Nope.
And I actually talked about their design
>>Not like Space Pirate Mafia Elves
You mean random paleskinned Drow in space?

>>52460315
I mean, if you want to use heavily reductive phrasing, you can boil down just about anything into a shitty idea. Dark Eldar are rad, coke-fueled, sadistic space pirates, and if you disagree, you a big ole faggaroni.

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>>52460315
>their design is bad
>when DE are easily one of the best model lines GW has done

I thought you guys were shitposting about AoS in a 40k thread

But seriously, why bitching at a guy who wants Dark Elves back?

>>52460367
>>when DE are easily one of the best model lines GW has done
Because of their quality, while their armor deisgn was borring.

>>52460358
>Dark Eldar are rad, coke-fueled, sadistic space pirates
Nope they are just dire avengers with spikes

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>>52460508
Say that to my face, and I'll stitch a new pussy to your face that excretes caustic acid and then have one of my wracks fist your face-acid-pussy until it's loses an arm.

>>52460466
Because there are 2-3 faggots in these threads who instead of playing bitch about other players' choice of factions.

>>52460358
>shadow the edgehog: the faction
>rad

>>52460536
Easily, DE armor is borring piece of shit, it's just spamming one black plate over the whole model without interesting details.
And I hope this art from deviant.

>>52460496

>armour design is boring

When you make your customers paint their edgy elves with EDGE highlights, I believe they nail the design and function fo the race.

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>>52460496
>>52460508
>Layered plates are bad
It fits the aesthetic and practicality of needing some armour and still being super fast and flexible

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>>52460668

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>>52460496
>>52460571
What are you on about? Kabalites are great and have quite a bit of variety for trooper models.

>>52460671
>It fits the aesthetic
What aesthetic?
>practicality of needing some armour and still being super fast and flexible
Yeah when you have supermagical latex.
Even old executioers worked better through mix of plate and mail armor
>>52460698
>and have quite a bit of variety for trooper models
Well where, except their posses?

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>>52460718
??
Are you complaining about the paint job? You do you do know you get to paint your own dudes.

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>>52460718
>What aesthetic?
Here's the vid for your education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oatGPbCSIU

>>52460729
>Are you complaining about the paint job?
About design. Your picture is just showing how to cover design flaws by painting different parts (of the same armor plates) in different colours.
>>52460735
>education
>Imao we want to make punk elves, lolsoedgy

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>>52460819

>>52460827
>oh no he dislikes my generic edgy guys, must be bait
kys 40kid

I hope GW does something different with Light Aelves and Shadow Aelves.

Did you know that Archaon got his ass kicked when he tried to invade Ulgu, the shadow realm?

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>>52460698
>TFW bought DE Kabalite Warrior+Raider bundle.
>Assembled one model.
>Aaaaand they look like midget standing next to my Harlie (it's not the pose, even in a normal pose, Harlie will look much taller than the Kabalite Warrior )
>Note to sell : 10 guys in 2 sprue > they're gonna be midget.
>Half-born indeed.
>No

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>>52460844
>shitposter has posted 0 counter pics to "AoS has better models/lore"
>still gets mad
kill la kill yourself senpai

>>52460862
>"AoS has better models/lore"
One of them in the OP-post.
>>still gets mad
>no u mad
kek
Also, it's kind of pretty shitty designer if need the interview to explain what he made

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>>52460885
>liking steampunk anything
*tips*

>>52460885
Anon, that's a Squat who got materialized back to reality after Fantasy was squatted.

>>52460894
>liking edgelords in generic black leather armor

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>>52460931
>edgelords
In a setting which is edgy to an almost satirical degree? Oh no

>black armour
I didn't realise that GW made DE models with black plastic

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After 500 hours in total war, ive decided to get into tabletop with empire.

Where should I start, all I know about warhammer is what I know from the game

>>52460972

Setup for dissapointment senpai.

>>52460942
>40k after Kopinsky
>satirical
yeah sure m8

>>52460898
>that's a Squat
Nope

>>52460972
Empire is dead, anon. They are callled Freeguild and are the Janitors of Age of Sigmar. Sigmarines kill off the main chaos forces, freeguilds kill off some random horrors and cleanse the battlefield.

Does anyone know what reiksguard knights are called now? I cant find them on the website with everything renamed and split into weird subfactions

>>52461048
are stormcast eternals a new thing? Hey arent in the game. Does the emperor not exist anymore with sigmar back?

>>52461062
They is kill

>>52461080
>are stormcast eternals a new thing?
It's a new setting and game

Do you guys always shitpost this hard?

>>52461122
o..oh

>>52461048
And Freeguilds also get cucked by Lizardmen (now called Seraphons) fucking their wives.

>>52461283
Seraphon. Seraphon is the plural and the singular.

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>>52461283
Sure glad I waited until now to get into the game

>>52461184
The shitposts only shitposts this hard when they know idiots always take the bait.

>>52461309
Hey at least it's insanely cheaper to get a 2k army than it was in Fantasy
And your army won't get Purple Sunned off the board T1

:D

>>52461339
>And your army won't get Purple Sunned off the board T1
Yeah it will be shooted down by hunters in t3 or thundered by sigmarines deep strike formation

>>52461356
Then git gud
AoS is nowhere near as unbalanced as 40k/WHFB

Still not as balanced as 30k, but hey

>>52461356
Nah, man. Nah.

AoS "cheese" is nothing like Fantasy cheese.

There's no terrible armies and there's no completely OP unbeatable armies.

>>52461184

And here I thought we could have a few more days of kind of calm.

>>52461374
Magnus with D-novas disagrees.

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>>52461443
>Magnus
>AoS
N-Nani?

Rate my mixed Destruction list plx.

Allegiance: Destruction

Leaders
Frostlord on Stonehorn (460)
- Artefact: Battle Brew
Huskard on Thundertusk (340)
Huskard on Thundertusk (340)
Savage Big Boss (100)
- General
- Trait: Ravager
- Artefact: Talisman of Protection
Maniak Weirdnob (100)

Battleline
10 x Savage Orruks (100)
10 x Savage Orruks (100)
10 x Savage Orruks (100)

Units
30 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (300)

Battalions
Kunnin' Rukk (60)

Total: 2000/2000

>>52458350
Are both GW and Mantic skeles the same size/scale?

>>52461048
Are there any human aos factions? (Either current or rumoured).

>>52461374
>AoS is nowhere near as unbalanced as 40k/WHFB
It's almost on the same level already and they will be equal very soon if each battletome wil push power lvel forward.
>There's no terrible armies
All without their own battletomes, even TK are not so danger.

>>52461521
>Are there any human aos factions?
Only placehorlders

>>52461521
Freeguild/Free Peoples, a good deal of Ironweld Arsena and the Collegiate Arcane.

And ignore the other guy, he's a well known bullshitter and fucks up threads all the time. I think his ban ended or something.

>>52461521
There's also Slaves to Darkness, they're pretty much human.

>>52461540
>a good deal
>old armies
>good deal

>>52461555
Learn English slavposter. That doesn't mean what you think it means.

>>52461482
Pretty much. People typically also don't all come in the same height and proportions so it's not a big deal if you mix them.

Is AoS actually good?

>>52461555
What is this post supposed to convey?

>>52461560
Yeah sure, because buying army with no updates in the future is such a good deal.

>>52461586
Kek

>>52461580
Yes. Watch some batreps on youtube, I was surprised how fun it is despite my prejudices.

>>52461583
Slavshit shitposting. He still hasn't called Death and Destruction NPC factions who do not deserve battletomes yet though.

>>52461586
Slavposter.

a good (or great) deal

to a considerable extent.
"she had got to know him a good deal better"

>>52461594
>He still hasn't called Death and Destruction NPC factions who do not deserve battletomes yet though.
Wheere the fuck I've called them NPC factions?'Also, FreeGuilds are shit since it's shooting army (because their infantry sucks even more)and all their shooters today outranged by new armies shooters.

>>52461633
Oh sorry, that was a different shitposter then. His English was greater deal than yours for sure :^)

Will they ever come out and say what theyre actually doing with legacy factions?

>>52461712
They're staying until further notice.

They're getting updates in the General's Handbook 2.

>>52461633
>FreeGuilds are shit since it's shooting army (because their infantry sucks even more)and all their shooters today outranged by new armies shooters.
Good thing those other armies can't put out the sheer volume of firepower that Freeguild can! Also do you seriously have a problem with more than one army having good shooting? What's next? Maybe Orcs shouldn't be good at melee because Khorne exists? Fuck off.

>>52461726
>Good thing those other armies can't put out the sheer volume of firepower that Freeguild can!
Such as..?
Well except legacy armies.

>Also do you seriously have a problem with more than one army having good shooting?
The problem is that FG have nothing more that's why they are bad army especially for newcommer.

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Ok boys and girls, going to my first AOS Tournament tomorrow - here's my list... how badly will i get crushed you all think?

>>52461798
I don't think you want Nagash in there. Get more bodies instead.

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>>52461062
You can still run a list with Empire or Reiksguard Knights. They're still valid for play. Just if you're trying to buy them new, you're gonna have a bit of trouble. Demigryph knights however shred face.

>>52460972
Basically Archaon won, Sigmar possessed Karl Franz and used him as an avatar, and Mannfred betrayed everyone so the world blew up. The souls of everyone who lived in the Old World have been reconstituted in new bodies across the Mortal Realms, and the equivalent of the Empire is, as people have been saying, the Free Cities.

Freeguild are still a viable and relevant army and you can still go hard for that Empire aesthetic because it's pretty much confirmed that elements of Old World culture persist in the Cities of Sigmar.

>>52461740
>nothing more
Freeguild Guard with swords and shields at 30 or 40 are one of the best tarpits in the game. They soak up damage like nothing else. Also, Demigryph Knights are fucking great.

>>52461740
>>Good thing those other armies can't put out the sheer volume of firepower that Freeguild can!
>Such as..?
>Well except legacy armies.
The only newer army that put out more shots than Freeguild is Bonesplitterz, but they lose out on quality. When you say other armies outdo them, I assume you mean Stormcast and Sylvaneth. As I already said, they can't match Freeguild in volume of firepower. They may have longer range, and some units have more powerful shots, but those are elite ranged units that have few shots.

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>>52461811
the issue is, i converted this sweet sweet model and want to show it off on the table...

>>52461850
All that time and effort and you still have mold lines.

Paint job could be better too.

But it's a cool idea and you pulled off the actual conversion pretty well, so I rate it 8/10.

Good job, run that sucker.

>>52461868
yeah, im terribad at photos! it actually looks ok on the table and not at 500% zoom. heh.

thanks for the feedback

>>52455245
Warhammer orcs were never like 40k orcs. They were always closer to the more traditional tribal barbarian orcs you see in D&D.

>>52455699
Horned Rat was always a god.

>>52461931
Just not a Chaos God of the Pantheon, is what the dude means.

>>52461850
>>52461868
To be honest, its well above tabletop quality, its not the best Ive ever seen, but its damned good.

8.5 outta 10

>>52461798
Surely if you're using Nagash you want to have a big summoning pool for double summons?

Actually, with Nagash, does the double summoning require double the summoning points?

>>52462025
it does look good, but the highlights are basic as hell, it's a good looking not os well done tabletop quality. Nothing wrong with tabletop quality but you wouldn't pay someone for that.

Slaaneshi chaos elves when?

>>52462116
Yep
Hence i only play Death with Arkhan with 400pts of summoning @ 2k

We're definately the weakest atm, even one of our relics uses points ffs

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>>52461048
>Once the heroics defenders of civilisation.
>Now reduced to being the bitches for the Stormcast.

Why GW?

I mean their fluff is that the Freeguild were so shitty, their god Sigmar had to replace them with the Stormcast.

Stormcast even stole their fucking mounts.

>>52460853
Pretty sure my gors came 10 guys in 2 sprues, and they're taller than humans.
I'd have to double check though.

Got dumpstered by ironjawz 3 times this week so I think I need a new list, Im thinking this one, with a hammer and anvil approach with the knights and a carno flanking units that charge the guard.


Allegiance: Order

Leaders
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (320)
- General
- Trait: Legendary Fighter
- Artefact: Quicksilver Potion
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (260)
- War Spear
- Artefact: Relic Blade
Saurus Eternity Warden (140)
Saurus Sunblood (120)
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Cold One (100)
Skink Starpriest (100)

Battleline
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Guard (200)
10 x Saurus Warriors (100)
- Spears
10 x Saurus Knights (240)
- Lances

Units
5 x Chameleon Skinks (120)

Battalions
Bloodclaw Starhost (100)

Total: 2000/2000

I like to play age of sigmar, and pretend it's in the old world

>>52462976
There's so many realms that it's very likely that there is a stretch of land in one of the realms that's entirely like the old world

>>52462344
>yfw GW doesn't do a thing about it in ghb2

Death fags get out. Quit your bitching. You could have it worse. Destruction when?

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I think the hand with the dragon does not belong to elf...

>>52457171
Is this your's? It's pretty!

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How bad do you think my local GW would flip if they caught me trying to use mantic skeles in game? They've barred a KID from painting because he was using a Vallejo on his starter kit.

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>>52463223
I would agree, but dark elves have been tied with tiny dragons since at least 6th ed. So hope is still there.

>>52463309
I think it's their policy that you can't use non-GW models in their stores.

>>52463336
Ok then. Luckily most of them play sigmarines and Tzeentch, so it's not like I'm missing too much. Still a shame though.

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>>52461062

GW have been nice enough to outsource them to a cheaper manufacturer. Please refer to perry-miniatures dot com and ask for "WR 40 Mounted Men at Arms 1450-1500". If you prefer a different era, you can choose between napoleonic, medieval, japanese, korean, burger civil war, deus vult, world war and many others.

>>52463309
the are fully autistic, they will ban you. If you get lucky, you will only have to put them away and never break code again, else ban. They will remember you and pay special attention to your army next time. Same goes for conversions,. even light ones.

>>52463467
They are nice models. Not heroic scale though :(

>>52461471
-30 savage orruks + grotz with fanatics: tada, every mixed Destruction list ever.

>>52463578
You're not supposed to give a shit about whether it looks out of place or not, you're only allowed to care about cost and stiggin it.

>>52462396
These are way cooler than any Samecast eternal unit.
Free peoples > Borecast

>>52461850
Run that as a mortis engine you fool. Nagash is too many points

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Well I can't decide between mantic skeles and GW skeles. I can get 60 mantic a for $110, but not be able to use them in store, or I can get 40 gw skeles for $120. Also, I like the look of GW skele heads more.

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>>52460972
Get a bunch of demigryph knights, a lord, greatswords... and STEAM TANKS

>>52463728
get both.
The GW skeles come with extra heads, so put the spares on the mantic so the look better

>>52456525
How is that fundamentally different from Tzaangors and their focus solely on Tzeentch?

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>>52461814
They also look good

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>>52463223
dude its a shadow aelf.

>>52463223
It almost certainly belongs to an elf, but I hope it doesn't.

>>52463891
WRONG: ITS A PENISBAT=>slaaneshi vampires?

>>52461080
The emperor IS Sigmar. The Sigmar of AoS is Karl Franz possessed by Sigmar's spirit.

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>not posting the best skeletons

Shame on you.

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>>52463891
Come on guys, stop fooling around, the full mini was already leaked, pic related

>>52463966
Heck even the old plastic ones looked nice if done well. I still have the metal coffin shields lying around somewhere.

>>52463843
I feel bad for this guy. If only he didn't write ALTDORF on the banner, this squad would still be valid.

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>>52463975

>>52460847
Everyone who sent armies into those 2 realms during the war for Allpoints got their asses kicked or went missing in a way that not even Sigmar or Archaon could detect them. There's some scary shit going on in there, man.

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>>52463997
>not making your own cannon for your dudes
GW pls.

>>52464042
there be aelves in those there parts, beware.

>>52463997
>implying a nostalgic Sigmar wouldn't have founded a New Altdorf.

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>>52464061

>>52461850
Put the miniature down, use a backdrop(i.e a white sheet of paper) and resize it in paint to a scale that is closer to the actual size of the miniature.

>>52463197
As no one plays them, get fucked. Btw 3 destruction vs 0 death releases.

>>52463197
>Destruction
Literally 90% shit. Greenskins in general especially feel like an early joke army that GW never dared to remove.

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>>52463976
>>52463966

>>52463975
>>52464016
kek'd harder than I should

>>52463758

Any word of a free peoples battle time in the works?

>>52464224
None. Just assume older army battletomes will be released without much notice, like the Khorne one.

>tfw can't decide on a single army to play

I just need an army that doesn't require a huge amount of models, are fairly easy to paint, and aren't Order-aligned.

>>52456976
I prefer the Anglo-Saxon burial mound feel of the GW sculpts really.

>>52464238
The "slaves of darkness" chaos warrior dudes are pretty easy to paint. Not sure about the rest of their army though.

Otherwise maybe the elite themed black oruks faction.

>>52464224
No but you don't need it. The army is pretty good and fleshed out as-is for now. The key is lots of synergies and buffs.

I like using handgunners to shoot the shit out of everything

>>52464238
beast claw raiders.

paint a few woolly mammoths and you're 90% there.

>>52464238
Ironjaws or Warherds. You can make your whole army 11 models.
Or go for an overall grand alliance or Ogres

>>52464238
Go warherds

>>52464306

I considered a grand alliance army, but the alliance I like the most of is Chaos. And Chaos feels kinda disjoined when you mix their factions.

>>52464238
Low model armies:
Clan Skyre with lots of Stormfeinds
Soulblight vampires
Beastclaw raiders
Nurgle Rotbringers, all blightkings (awesome models and kick ass in game)

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>>52464344
lies. if you paint them right it looks awesome.
Here you have a big mix

>>52464306
>>52464342

You know, I always wondered how Warherds do on their own. It seems like they'd just be too low model count to be any good.

>>52461814
>it's pretty much confirmed that elements of Old World culture persist in the Cities of Sigmar.
Only twintaled comet.
Also, there is just some random freaks not a soldiers on your picture.
>>52463687
>These are way cooler than any Samecast eternal unit.
Not according to Age of SIgmar fluff

>>52464401
They got fucked by the rule of 1.
Before that, gorgons ate everything because they kept getting extra attacks.

>>52464401

https://youtu.be/WCeYV9NqHEw

>>52462396
>>52461048
Seriously how butthurt are you? Every thread, like clockwork, you pop up to whine about Freeguild VS Stormcast.

>>52460972
Most of their military units are now in Freeguild. Start there and add some Collegiate Arcana or Ironweld Arsenal or Devoted of Sigmar to taste I would advise to do Freeguild+1 and not try to squeeze everything into one list. So if you like some magic, go with Collegiate, if you got a boner for gunpowder go Arsenal and if religious fervour is more your thing go Devoted.

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>Skyre
>Skyre
>Skyre
>Skyre
>SKYRE
>SKYRE
>SKYRE
>SKYRE
What the hell?! I can't find a single case where clan Skryre is spelled correctly. Are you all brain damaged or is it just one nolifer constantly flaunting his shitty spelling?

Is the pre-order for the Blades of Khorne tomorrow?

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Um...

>>52464738
>>52464697
new khorne stuff?

>>52464577
A little of column A...

>>52464565
Flagellants. Run as many flagellants as you can. Lose half your unit, steamroll for that one turn.

>>52461633
Reecius, of Frontline gaming, took a pure freeguild army to adepticon. He got 1 lost and 4 major victories. He raves about how underestimated they are.

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those warpfire projectors... so delicious

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>>52464738
This is the original, there seems to be new stuff, maybe they include some daemons?

>>52463508
This is not true. I was at the LVO with my Lord celestant riding on bear. While the conversion using a reaper bear disqualified me for a painting competition, the gw reps still loved it and let me play with it. They said for playing as long as the base model is GW, most conversions are fine.

GW still producing IoB or they just repackaged old boxes?

>>52465308
It's Spire of Dawn now. Same thing but with round bases.

>>52465308
>>52465355

Still a great deal if you want either army in it too. It's a stupid huge saving.

>>52465355

You get round and square bases.

>>52463508
t. played in GW stores by proxy via visiting /tg/

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I went for a safe but boring basing style in the end.
I've still got to finish painting the loincloth and a foot, still shouldn't take much longer.

>>52465620
>Whitewashing trees
you fuckin racist. makes trees brown again

>>52465620
Weren't you the guy thinking of going with the backstory that your dudes were frozen under the ice for so long? Or am I thinking of someone else?

>>52465620
Meeeh. It doesn't look bad but it doesn't compliment the miniature at all. A more autumnal foliage would have been a better idea imo.

>>52461726
>Maybe Orcs shouldn't be good at melee because Khorne exists?
Eh, the fact that Orruks are beasts in melee while also having one the best ranged units in the game's a little interesting.

>>52461823
And y'know what the purpose of those tarpits is, friendo? Holding them still to get shot to death. Oh look, Freeguild is still nothing more than a shooting army and the tools to support it.

>>52455466
Is that a wyvern or a sallad?

>>52465731
if you throw a tarpit on an objective, your opponent can never claim it

>>52465662
Yes I was, but I got thinking, if I do them with snow bases it's just going to be a mass of white from a distance and it'll just blend together.
>>52465665
Yea you're probably right, I'm thinking maybe I can improve the base by adding some leaf litter or something.

>>52463309
Just firebomb their building. Sound like a bunch of autistic shits.

>>52463578
>wanting the gorilla proportions of Heroic Scale instead of good clean 28mm
kys

>>52461356
Why do people complain about hunters so much, most 2k armies bring like 6 of them.

>>52464565
>adding Devoted of Sigmar
Do not listen to this fuckface. Devoted of Sigmar units have 0 synergy with the rest of the Freeguild line because all of their buffs and prayers only work on other Devoted of Sigmar units. Anything you get from this line is just a waste of points. If you want a warrior priest, get one of the named characters from the Empire warscrolls so that you can actually use their prayers on your troops. Otherwise, stay far, far away from the Devoted of Sigmar.

>Sega taking a leaf from GW senpai and release a whole new game instead of an Xpac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg9_ZtRi7e4

End Times SOON

>>52465620
Looks kinda shitty, desu. It doesn't match the mini at all, and using autumn colors and red grass would much better compliment it.

>>52465772
It's the yellow grass mainly, it just looks odd next to the dark soil and green tufts. I'd say some leaf litter on the grass to blend it in and then maybe replace the green tufts with brownish/reddish ones to complement the red leaves on the model.

I always love these thread, because every single fucking time it's always AoS fans trying to defend GW for nuking the universe and rules.

>>52466018
This is bait.

>>52465781
>Sound like a bunch of autistic shits.
Do you also call Restaurant owners autistic shits when they tell you not to bring outside food into their place?

@52466018
(you)

>>52458820

Those skeletons are not indicative of gw skele design. Those are cheap snap fit ones, their skeleton warriors from the actual box they sell looks 100 times better than those or the mantic ones.

>>52462845

How did the ironjawz keep beating you?

>>52465179
>Lord celestant riding on bear
im having a hard time picturing this

>>52455269
>dont want to pay GW prices.

But they actually lowered them indirectly? 20 sauruses now cost as much as 16 back when I played.

>>52466056
>comparing GW to a sit-down restaurant
>not fast food
kek

>>52466160
Keep defending their overpriced garbage. One day, you might even believe your own lies.

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these guys are hands down the best sylvaneth thing in the army bar none, (and the melee version too).

is it bad taste to make an army with the absolute maximum number of these guys in the force?

>>52466313

I'm only stating facts anon, you can keep ignoring them but it won't make them any less true.

>>52466336
>facts
>a subjective opinion on aesthetics
Sure thing, kid.

What would a vampire likely use as a battleline?

Quick question- is the game more Hero-hammery or block-hammery, compared to say, 5th and 6th editions respectively? If I want to play smaller size games, like 1k or 1,5k, how many models will I roughly need in Seraphon or Sigmarine armies? Do I need ton of monsters like 8th ed?

>>52466640

It's a lot more herohammer, because heroes can't join units like they could before. So every hero is either capable of fighting units one on one, or is a support hero to hide behind other units.

As for blockhammer, the model count needed for an army fell across the board.

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>>52466278
I've posted this here a bunch so I hope im not spamming. But the only part of my entire army that was 3rd party was the bear's head, which was from Reaper. It stung a little, but it got a lot of praise from them, which I appreciated.

>>52466313
So you bring shitty beer from a supermarket to your favorite bar and everyone is ok with it?

>>52466640
Herohammer. The game is all about the synergy between the heroes and the units. On top of that the heroes don't need to depend on what units they are attached to do anything. They can generally hold out on their own, or they are designed to.

Allegiance: Order

Leaders
Freeguild General (100)
- General
- Stately War Banner
- Trait: Inspiring
- Artefact: Phoenix Stone
Volkmar the Grim (100)

Battleline
10 x Freeguild Guard (80)
10 x Freeguild Guard (80)
10 x Freeguild Guard (80)
20 x Freeguild Handgunners (200)
20 x Freeguild Handgunners (200)
20 x Freeguild Handgunners (200)

Units
6 x Demigryph (400)
5 x Pistoliers (140)
5 x Outriders (140)

Battalions
Freeguild Regiment (100)

Total: 1980/2000

Seems like a Freeguild Regiment doesn't give you a whole lot of wiggle room for customization. Keeping Handgunners at a minimum size of 20 and running 6 Demigryphs only leaves 280 points for tweaking, whether throwing in Volkmar/Huss for unbinding and buffs, a cannon but unfortunately not a pair so you'd be forced to bring an engineer for reliability, or just more handgunners.

It almost seems like running a pair of State Troop Detachments is just as worth it, despite the ridiculous investment just because you're not forced to get both Outriders and Pistoliers in addition to the Demis. Though I suppose the second General's command ability is wasted, unless Strategic Genius would somehow let you trigger both.

>>52466688
>GW
>favorite bar
kek

What Start collecting box is the best value? in real money and in points

>>52466742
The state troop regiment is much better. Not really any reason to not run the empire warscrolls instead

>>52466943
Yeah, that's what it looks like. Feels a little odd to not have the army under the same battalion for the buffs, but Demis and Outriders are usually going to be out of range anyways. Seems like running something like... General, 3 30-man handgunners, unit of greatswords, STR battallion as a core would be the most efficient use. Then add in some chaff guard to screen the handgunners, and your choice of more cavalry, a pair of cannons, one of the unique warrior priests, etc.

Do I have to set aside points for a Verminlord on the offchance I summon one with the screaming bell?

>>52467220
Yes

>>52467220
Yup.

>>52467257
Thats pretty gay. So if I dont set aside the points and roll a 12 does nothing happen?

>>52467275
That's right! But keep mind that matched play isn't the only way to play. Talk to your friends to maybe run some narrative matches or just have some fun with open play

>>52467220
actually no, you don't "have to" set aside the points. But if you don't set the points aside and happen to roll a whatever that could summon a verminlord then you wouldn't be able to bring it into play.

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>>52467294
>open play

>>52467319
>>52467319
>>52467319

Migrate

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>>52467294
>narrative matches
>just have some fun with open play

>>52467349
What, don't you and your friends talk about what you are going to bring to an open play game, and most of our open play games just happends on the spot.

>>52467371
Nah, we do this bizarre thing where we play the game when we play the game. Open play is one of the few things more pathetic than larping.

>>52463041
There's 9 Realms.

>>52468215
But they are all infinite and limitless.