Age of Sigmar General /aosg/

>>52442477
I wish Slaanesh was back

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>>52442477
For Nagash!

>>52442477
I thought Khul was dead

Is the genius who painted Groin Kikka here? Could you repeat the steps to paint that beauty?

If not, I'll message him on Reddit

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Grotbag scuttlers fucking when? They and the shadow elves keep getting mentions but are nowhere to be seen. This is the 3rd time grot sky pirates appeared in canon

>>52442838
>Grotbag Scuttlers

Hopefully not before Ironjawz get their junk dirigibles.

>>52442832
Found it in the archive.

>Basecoat Deathworld Forest
>Basecoat Loren Forest,
>Drybrush Skarsnik Green
>Wash Biel Tan green.

>>52442865
Thanks, anon.

Still, Groin Kikka-anon, if you read this, you're a beast.

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>Just want a dedicated Vampire themed BT or a proper Skellington one
>GW release Steampunk doorfs and another SCE Tome
Fuck off GW release some "evil" factions already

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>>52443067
I was actaully going to play Death exclusively when i join AoS, but then i saw the complete lack of new sculpts and support and decided Nurgle was going to be my first point of call

>Just want an army of Vampire Knights w/Undead Dragons and cool guys like him

>>52443041
They have been. But apparently you don't like Chaos.

>>52443108
It'll happen eventually.

Right?

...Right?

>>52443041
Fuck off at least you got new models during end times

Half the freeguild models are out of stock on the website, and the whole faction is living on borrowed time

>>52443110
I play Nurgle and atm my 2nd AoS will be Khorne or Slaanesh - i want some change
>Play DE and Necrons in 40k

I just like playing bad guys

>>52443137
I am really curious to see what they'll to with mortal humans.

>>52443152
Lantic Empire, probably.

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>>52443135
>>52443137
>VC Counts and Blood Knights
>Werewolves/Vargheists
>Grave Guard as Battleline
Jeez GW that was hard to make a faction

>>52443041
Fuck you, the best Vampire line got a full battle tome. If you don't like Strigoi, you a bitch.

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>>52443108
>tfw you are smarter than me
>I already purchased the GA: Death book and FEC battletome

>>52443210
At that point you might as well just go join the khornate cannibals.

Real vampires have class.

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>>52443210
I bet you are as ugly as your faction
Shitgol are deluded cucks, even Mannlet is better than them

Will there be any updates on Death armies?
I wanna get into AoS and I like the death armies but there just isn't enough there for me to commit yet

I'm also really digging Sylvaneth atm

>>52443276
Rumour says new death at some point this year, but it might just be bullshit.

Other than that, no one knows. Go for the treemen if you don't want to risk it.

>>52443152
>implying they'll ever get touched
I'm perfectly happy just living under a rock, and I can't imagine they'll do plain jane humans before they do over-designed supersoldier Good Guy, over-designed supersoldier Bad Guy, etc. I'm already forced to use the Empire warscrolls in order to use the Luthor Huss and Volkmar in order to get Warrior Priests that can buff my units. And cannons that get the Engineer reroll and grapeshot.

As I posted a few threads ago. The only things I could even ask for is one thing I know we'll never get and one thing that I hope to see in the General's Handbook II.
>Warplock Jezzails but hooman, just a copy-paste to give us something for long-range shooting that isn't reliant solely upon cannons. I'd kill for a five-man unit of Hochland Long Rifles.
>cost reduction on the Steam Tank

I used to bitch about pistoliers, but I think they're honestly fine enough for what they are. Just a meat missile to slam at something, with such pathetic bravery to expect them to crumple hopefully after fucking up whatever they slammed into. Despite the range on pistols, they're really just a shitty and cheaper Demigryph.

>>52443256
>implying I play Death
Destruction and theoretical Order. One a mob of coked up spider-worshipping grots, the other daemon-smith Redcoats.

>>52443256
Fucking Mannfred, ruined everything.

And he's still a Mortarch. Vlad should have stayed Mortarch of Shadow instead.

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>>52443210

>>52443311
>Renegade Freeguild dude
You know, if you're not happy with the Steam Tank, you could just run a War Hydra instead. You were talking about making some weird daemon engine kitbash anyway, and that way you can knock off 60 points for what's objectively a better warscroll. Still keeps the shortish-range shooting attack, respectable melee, a rule that self-inflicts mortal wounds, and some self-repair. Ought to make a perfectly serviceable warscroll for a daemon engine, and it's not like you're losing Allegiance or anything.

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>Allegiance: Death
Arkhan The Black Mortarch of Sacrament (340)
Necromancer (120)

>Batteline
10 x Zombies (60)
10 x Zombies (60)
10 x Zombies (60)
>Units
2 x Morghast Archai (240)
5 x Black Knights (120)
5 x Black Knights (120)
>Behemoth
Mourngul (400)
Summoning - 480
Total: 2000/2000

I think this is the only Death army i could stomach fielding right now

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>>52443402
Actually swap the 2x5 BKs for Hexwraiths
Still 400 points of Summoning

how do you stay motivated to work on your army when all the aos groups in your area meet only on nights you have to work late?

I've been working on and off on my army for months now, and I am really having trouble staying motivated since I have yet to even have a chance to play a game once.

>>52443401
...huh, that's not a bad idea. Both on 70x105mm bases as well, so the foot the same. Thanks for the recommendation.

Brokk Lord Magnate how much do you think it will cost?

>>52443500
320ish points, probably. Less than 400 certainly.

A Vampire Lord can ride a Terrorgheist, right?

I can't find the relevant warscroll, the webstore on has the Abhorrent Ghoul King one and the Vampire Lord on Zombie Dragon.

>>52443582
Don't think they can.

>>52443582
Only VL options are Stock/Nightmare/Dragon/Flying/Abyssal

>>52443604
>>52443621
Damn, OK, I'll just take a Terrorgheist as is, their shriek is amazing on paper. Is it as ruinous as it sounds in practice?

>>52443641
Yeah it's pretty great.

>>52443641
Not as OP as it was, but still v good

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>>52443160

>>52443402
>>52443422
That list actaully costs less than £200
I'm kinda glad AoS is much more afforable than 40k

>>52443678
So a technologically-advanced empire of jobbers. How heroic. They equally let Chaos, Death, Destruction and even Order kill them easily. Apparently the Twelfth iteration was so pathetic that the foot-traveling guides of a single tribe.

>>52443330
Can the Gaunt Summoner be replaced with Archaon or the Varanguard? I keep looking at this and thinking: "Tzeentch, Tzeentch, Pestilens, Bloodbound. Oh wait, that is supposed to be the Everchosen."

>>52443641
Vamp on zombie dragon is still pretty based mate.

>>52442534
Khul the Kuck forever lives brother!

>>52443655
What made it worse, higher bravery across the board?

>>52443919
>>52442534

The scene where the 3 chaos guys tried to loot his body was hilarious.

I still wish he would have put that damn stormfag skull on top of his pyramid...

>>52443727
Like the Empire?
Fuck, taking a century after everyone else with ALL factions ganging on them?

>>52443962
Nah, they changed it to a 6+d6 vs bravery damage. You can still do quite the wounds on the enemy but gone are the days where you'd wipe out whole squads without breaking a sweat.

>>52443995
That's fair, and it makes it less of a no-brainer between that and the zombie dragon.

Thanks for your help!

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Anyone got colour schemes for tzaangors?

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Im having a problem with a friends attitude /AoS/.

There is no denying hes still butthurt after the departure of WHFB, despite being one of those guys who never actually played the fucking game. Neither did he bother painting much of what he had as well. He is simply just grumpy over the fact that AoS took its place. To be frank, I think he has simply spent to much time on online forums to actually go outside and make up his own mind about it.

In a recent discussion (aka, heated debate), he proclaimed that everything was wrong with AoS. Yep, he hated all of it. The lore, despite not red any of it (solely based this on his assumption that he liked WHFB lore, that was taken away), the models design (despite being a huge WoW fan, that plays that fucking game regularly. And there is no denying in the resemblance between the esthetics of the two), the hero scale (despite playing Warmahordes himself, which is also a hero scale system), The game rules (despite not ever playing, or reading them)... This went on and on.

And at every corner I could easily argue his case with ease. Im telling you, he was like the worst autistic anon on /tg/ embodified.

Is he a lost case, or do I pursue my hopes of turning him to at least try the game out? And a side question, how do you defend against this much stupidity? I have no illusions that my view of the world is the right way to look at it, and every man has a right to an opinion. But to bluntly state things that contradict one another (Claiming the quality of recent GW miniatures are shit, but still praise old metal sluggers of Warmahordes for instance) is just lying to yourself.

>>52444104
Tell him to shut the fuck up and get over it or just shut the fuck up
You offer to get him into it <3 times and if he doesn't do it from anything AoS when you speak to him

People who don't want to change don't deserve the effort people try to get them to change

>>52444104
Some people just want to be miserable.

Just play your game and have fun, don't bother too with his opinion too much. Your enjoyment will trigger people one way or another, there's no need for arguments since you cannot change their state of mind through conversation anyway, not unless they're open/ready for it.

If he's ever gonna change, he'll snap out of it in his own time.

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>>52444104
Ask him if he is willing to try out Hinterlands? It can be used as a way to introduce people to the AoS system

To any Ironjawz anons - are Gore Grunta mouths meant to go on nicely? They seem to only fit on one side an leave a big ugly gap on the other. The mouths of the boars with tongues I mean.

>>52444207
There'll probably be some weird, nonsensical angle to snap them in from. You'll dick around with them for ages, then they'll just go *click* and suddenly they're flush with the rest. It's annoying, to be honest.

And I don't actually know this, I'm just guessing that's the case from my experience assembling my Magmadroth.

>>52444104
in 5 years he will be buying AoS minis.
Most of the grognard couldnt even hate gw more than 2 years and are already playing aos.

forget about it and tell him how nice the AoS game you played today was great and he will eventually play it.

looks like a teenage girl that hate something because her parents like it.

dont even try anymore and eventually he will come back

>>52444177
>-Wanna try AoS ?
>-No fucker I already told you I hate that GW shit.
>-What about that fan made knockoff of AoS ?
>-Wtf are you autistic or what

>>52444260
>knockoff
>scaled down mordheim-style skirmish adventure game

Pick one, friend.

>>52443108
How are you finding Nurgle, friend? Kinda in the same boat as you.

>>52444104
Unfortunately, this hobby is littered with small minded faggots who think parroting memes will get them respect and attention.
I suggest never talking to this fucker again. Not because of his attitude toward AoS, but because if he is this much of a hypocritical shit over a fucking TT wargame, he must be truly pathetic in all other walks of life.
TLDR: cut sling load on this shit piece

>Endrin niggers

>>52444287
Nurgle is Fun in a very Necron sort of way - ie simple, but reliable
Pretty much everything you have either ignores wounds on a 5+, everything is largely slow too but i'm not using Tallyband because it makes the army TOO Durable

I'd sum it up as "Aggressively Defensive" style of gameplay

Frankly i'm kinda excited about the new Death list i posted >>52443402 >>52443422 since i'll be using summoning and faster units

>>52444207
The Gore Gruntas go together like shit. They really did a shit job of splitting up that sprue. I fought for 10 minutes to get the stupid ears to snap in.... at two seperate point I was like "this unit is shit anyway, it's like they are actively trying to get me to NOT use them"

>>52444287
I'm also in the same boat and I'm enjoying Nurgle a lot! It feels like they have way more options even without a battletome. Death just feels empty right now.

Right now I'm debating if I should go with a second SC Nurgle Daemons or if I should expand to the mortal side of things with Rotbringers or Slaves to Darkness. And then there are other chaos factions too...

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>want to play elves
>still no elf army

>>52443727
I think you are downplaying just what happened during the Age of Chaos a little. Imagine these empires existing in relative peace for so long and prospering with no Chaos at all. Imagine that. So when Chaos does rear its ugly head, they would be relatively unprepared for it. They haven't had hundreds of years of suspicion and paranoia to look for signs of corruption. Likely the Lantic Empires were weakened from internal corruption and greed, so when the foot soldiers of Chaos came tromping in, being lead by the World Ender himself, no less, even after a valiant fight by the good people of order, they eventually fell, especially since Sigmar turned his back on the Mortal Realms and kindgoms to shut off Chaos from the final realm and regroup and make a new weapon. It is very likely that many in the ranks of the Stormcast Eternals hail from the Lantic Empires.

Chaos is a big fucking deal, and just because a city is advanced or the greatest human city known, does not mean it fell to Chaos easily. Even Sigmar's own pantheon was broken up by chaos and nearly completely destroyed by it.

I wouldn't belittle anything that fell during the Age of Chaos.

If there are Free Peoples updates, they will likely not be called the Lantic Empire, but will likely trace their roots or hail from them. Many of Azyrs refugees come from the Lantic Empires

>>52444391
Phoenix temple with a few dragon Lords, min units of archers.
Isn't that what fantasy fags were doing anyway? Except no dragons of course, monsters take points away from a Lvl 4 mage and his stubborn bunker of basic infantry he hides in all game

>>52444104
He's a lost cause. He only knows his memes and simply refuses to see anything beyond them.

What do you do? Have fun and play the game despite him. Take pictures and post in your facebook groups about the awesome games, or progress shots of your army. Don't tag him like a childish faggot, but just keep doing what you do. Ignore his inane rants about AoS and stick to what you know to be good. I'm not saying shun or avoid him, still be friends, just don't discuss AoS. He will notice you still play this 'shit game', and it will still bug him. It will bug him that people are seeing good in it. That's really all you can do.

>>52443108
>>52443137
(And people saying eshin is shit last thread)
What's up with this? Why is everyone hating on old sculpts?am i the only one who likes old sculpts?

>>52444104
My problem with AoS is the apparent squatting of the Empire line.
Some factions got carried over completely which is cool. Others are getting upgrades if you will into new factions which is entertaining for people who like new stuff.
But the Empire which was iconic and has some amazing miniatures looks like its dead atm. Until they do a mortals release.
It kind of annoys me that because of this I can't buy Empire stuff from discount stores i visit.

>>52444322
>>52444332
Sounds like it suits me just fine. I tend to tank things pretty hard, played Death Guard and Necrons in 40keks. I ask because I'm trying to build 1000 point lists for all the alliances and then see which way I want to expand from there, and I want to see which playstyle suits me in AoS.

The two armies I'm piecing together out of old WHFB stuff are a Blood Knight-heavy Soulblight army (elite, highly mobile) for Death and gunline Freeguilds (defensive, ranged) for Order, and my friend gave me like thirty of his old Black Orcs so I think I might go for Ironjawz for Destruction. Nurgle would be my first choice for Chaos.

What's the ratio of Slaves to Darkness/Daemons/Rotbringers like in your armies?

>>52444430
I dont like big creatures like dragons and shit, plus I dont want to buy old elves and have them drop the new ones a couple months later. So here ill wait, until GW makes some fucking elves for me to buy

>>52444462
The empire line is under free peoples, ironweld arsenal, collegiate arcane, and devoted of sigmar. You're welcome.

>>52444513
Yeah i know anon but because its not a mainline its not sold in third party stores.

>>52444468
Here's my list
>Leader
Herald - 100
Lord of Plagues - 100

>Battleline
10x Plaguebearers - 100
10x Plaguebearers - 100
10x Plaguebearers - 100

>Behemoth
GUO - 240
Soul Grinder (Blade) - 280

>Other
5x Blightkings - 180
5x Blightkings - 180
3x Plague Drones - 220
5x Chaos Knights (Glaive) - 200
5x Chaos Knights (Glaive) - 200
--2000 points

Really i could swap the Herald for another 10 PBs, but it's another DAEMON hero for my Drones to bounce off...

>>52444529
This is almost my list, minus a Daemon Prince

Nice

>>52444524
Well then you have no idea what the word 'squatting' means.

It means completely removed from store and fluff. When something is squatted, it is to act as though it never existed. Some kits being removed and the rest of the range being moved out of mainline (whatever that means) does not make it a squatting.

You're just as bad as the faggots calling death a squatted faction.

>>52444493
>I dont like big creatures like dragons and shit
What are you, gay?

>>52444572
Shut up you dumb autist. All factions that have been squatted are no longer sold by third parties. This is fact. If you reply with more grognard bullshit you are inbred.

>>52444568
I could drop a BK squad for a DP but i just love the models so much
Plus their regen

>>52444586
Holy shit then my lgs is somehow pulling all these kits from his ass, how does he do it?

Look, unless a kit is webstore exclusive, and looking at the model range of the old empire models, most isn't. Your 3rd party can get them. You're just again misunderstanding what squatting means, and gw's retail policies.

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Here's hoping the new Death Guard release will bring out new zombie models
If not, what are some non GW zombies that are "close enough"

>>52444646
>hes a retard
>he posts because he can
Companies are not being supplied with new wfb stock. The stock is disappearing on GWs own store.
Unless they re-release this stuff they are dead factions.

Forgeworld war mammoth what do you think about him?

>>52444104

Thing is I never played WHFB either and was still bummed to see the setting squated as I'd played WHFRP with the same character and same group for about 10 years, I'd say I was more invested in the universe than most tabletop players.

And yeah I know that WHFRP 2nd was already discontinued and I can just keep playing regardless it just kind of puts a damper on things knowing that *technically* the setting has an ending and that ending is awful.

My advice as a recent convert to AoS is don't try and tell people that that their opinion on the lore is wrong, even if you like it they clearly don't. I don't like it and honestly I probabley never will.

My friend convinced me to play AoS based on the simplicity of the system, the beer and pretzels, and "my dudes vs your dudes" aspect but he also asked me an important question:

>"Does lore matter?"

At first I tried to argue that of course it does but he just pointed out that unless you plan to buy and read all of the BTs, audio books, novels, comics, etc, etc then it doesn't. He also pointed out that we'd be playing matched play not narrative and if lore mattered we'd play narrative in every game we played but we don't. he also pointed out that while a lot of games we play have lore I like a lot of it's just window dressing. This is Not a Test is a great little post apocalyptic Fallout-esque game but it's theme is almost entirely tacked on. You could play TNT in almost any setting.

Basically try and sell AoS simply as a game, a fun thing to do with friends at the weekend. And if you can get them to watch some battle reports on youtube. There are some good ones out there and they really help to challenge people's perception of the game.

>>52444594
They're awesome, I like making them individual, like each one is a champion of Chaos rather than cookie cutter units most armies tend to have

How would you run that list at 1000 points chap?

>>52444671

Mantic plastic zombies are probabley the best plastic zombies on the market to be honest.

>>52444701
Never really thought about 1k but maybe something like this?
>Leader
Lord of Plagues - 100

>Battleline
10x Plaguebearers - 100
10x Plaguebearers - 100

>Behemoth
Soul Grinder (Blade) - 280

>Other
5x Blightkings - 180
5x Chaos Knights (Glaive) - 200
--960 points

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>>52444671

>>52444711
>Mantic plastic zombies
this

>>52444711
>>52444751
Are they stuck on that base, or would be easy to add a few weapons and stick them on 25mm?

>>52444732
Yeah, that seems relatively sensible

2k I've no issues with, but 1k Nurgle doesn't give much in the way of choice

>>52444758
They're stuck on that little circle, not the square

>>52444776
I always shy away from the losest bracket of games
It always seems that most armies miss out on their best units/features unless they have a little room to breath. Even if it does mean the buy in cost is higher

>>52444452
My biggest problem is that except for Sknich none of them fit the current Skaven esthetic. Night Runners are still monkey rats, Gutter Runners and Assasins are just way too old. Compare and contrast the current eshin minis with clanrats and storm vermin and you'll see the problem imo.

Verminlord Deceivers + Sknich looks fine.

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>>52444789
>They're stuck on that little circle
Damn that's annoying

>>52443330
I support this >>52443734
Put some Varanguards instead

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>>52444104
Get him to play through the starter set campaign.

If he still acts like a faggot he's a lost cause.

>>52444104
My friend was exactly the same, his hate was totally irrational, I didn't convice him but one day he just decided to give it a go. I think it was probably peer pressure that actually did it and now he's come around

>10 Liberators
>£37.50
>5 Blightkings
>£33.50

>>52444930
BK's are customisable to the point where you can have 15 completely different guys if you buy 3 boxes

No idea about Liberators, but maybe that's why?

>>52444680
Looks fun to play, planning one for my Khorne army and making it from the Lord of the Rings mumakil.

>>52443678

So they canonically got fucked up By Chaos (allied with Duardin, lol), Beastclaw and then what remained are now undead.

Why do people expect this faction to be made??

>>52444811
My point is that yes, they are old and have a different esthetic, but damn their esthetic is still beautiful as fuck. I didn't know people hated old models so much.

>>52445616
>but damn their esthetic is still beautiful as fuck.

Come on man

Gutter-runners looked crap when i got into Skaven like 18 years ago. they look embarrassing next to Snitch or even the old Assassin looks decent

Thankfully you can easily convert some sweet runners from the Skaven bloodbowl team, dunno why people don't do this more often and play Eshin

>>52445723
I've been considering that, have you got any pics or tips? I think you build some pretty sweet acolytes from that kit as well.

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>>52445742
>>52442838

>>52445723
Eshin is shit, it's expensive to convert a decent squad from two a pack and night runners are cheap as fuck now and come in a pack of 20.

>>52445840
Mono-Eshin is a bit lame, but right now runners are fine allies for a skaven form, you only need 5-10 models. i'd rather buy one bloodbowl team for a gang of actually decent looking models.

>>52445810
No camera, and mine my unpainted i'm working on them soon.

It's easy enough, the actual gutter-runner is a guy with a poison blade, he's perfect as is. Everyone else just needs a few daggers, throwing stars or slings tied to their belts, chop of any hands holding balls and such and replace with plague monk blades. Though any hand of similar size works fine. just open your bitz box and find a few blades

Hell you could play them out the box with no converting at all. I liked the helmets on them, but some may want to swap their heads with modern clanrat ones

>>52445932
If only clanrats just had 2 separate arms, our lives would be so much easier. Building jezzails would be a breeze.

I still need to finish my Globadier conversions. I want to finish the first squad before they get the idea to do something new with Skryre.

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This thread belongs to the Children of Hashut

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>>52444391
^this

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>>52446045
False, the thread is already claimed for Khaela Mensha Khaine.

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>>52446045
More like Children of Shoot Hash

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>>52446009
Plastic Jezzails/Globadiers when???

How are you making yours? Stormvermin i assume?

>>52446270
Wojak Skaven is always adorable

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>>52443210
Next you'll say you have autism too. Fucking mongrol.

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>be me, 19
>play total war
>prettycool.png
>want to actually get into tabletop game
>vampire counts were cool
>do some research
>mfw the only thing close to what I wanted as an army are fucking cannibal cavemen

What's the best way to get into aos with a "grand alliance death" army? I'm not a fan of flesh eaters, but manfred has a cool model I guess. I want that classic skeleton/zombie/ghoul/ghost feel.

>>52443678
Why does GW have such a huge boner for jobbers?

>>52446400
I'm not baiting man, I just really wanted to start vampire counts, but then found out about the end times.

Thinking about getting AoS as my first foray into wargaming.

How are the Seraphon, I'm really into the whole dinosaur aspect.

What is the best way to field Crypt Ghouls?
In large hordes or just minimum amount of small units to fill the generic battle line requirements?

>>52446270
Soon, I hope. Especially Jezzails. They look like fun.

>How are you making yours? Stormvermin i assume?
Storvermind combined with Doomwheel heads. Works like a charm. Except that finding the heads is a major pain. I use third party backpacks from MaxMini plus the open hands from the flagellant kit.

>>52446379
Like I'm more than willing to try aos. I'm thinking of a skele/ghost mixture w/ manfred or a wight with some necromancers, but idk how that'd fair. Idk this games meta.

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>No one posting the new Rumor Engine.

>>52446644
We've been over this, it's a Khorne model

>>52446644
done yesterday, everybody admit this is bones / khorne / DE

>>52446644
>>52446652
>>52446662
It's clearly a Grot sky pirate anchor.

>>52446644
Khorne or Nurgle shit

>>52446652
This, we haven't seen anything new for Khorne for a while and they're the most iconic adversaries for Stormcast Eternals.

>>52446644
>>52446652
>>52446662
>>52446681
>>52446687
>>52446706
What if DE go full Dark Eldar and become Shadowy Skrypirates that ride in not! Raiders?

>>52446719
I'd be fine with that, but I don't think it'd happen. Order already has one airship faction. I don't see them getting another.

>>52446706
I'm honestly annoyed about how it's been forever since we've gotten anything Khorne related, same with Forge World, it's like they are actively avoiding making anything Khorne related

Anyone who says it's a Khorne model is trolling or a legit retard, why would they release a Khorne battletome next week and then release a new model after it?

>>52446764
Because it's fucking GW.

>>52446574
In the OP there's a link to the General's Handbook. If you don't want to play FEC, which is fair if you prefer the classic gothic vampire aesthetic, then you can just use the DEATH allegiance. You have a choice of skeletons, zombies or ghouls for battleline, and then you can choose whatever you like to fill out the rest of your army. The meta is loose enough that it's probably different everywhere it's played except for a few tourney lists. Because Death only has one battletome, you don't miss out on much by just taking the Grand Alliance: Death allegiance rather than the FEC one.

>>52446729
but what if they don't sail through the air, but skim over the ground on waves of shadowy fog...

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>>52446823
dark elves are getting open top skimmers that explode to a stiff breeze killing everyone inside on a 3+?

sounds awesome

>>52446379
>>52446427
>>52446574
Mixed Death is alright. Your battleline is gonna be Zombies, Skeleton Warriors and Crypt Ghouls.

Make sure to get a Forgeworld Mourngul as well, they are expensive point-wise and irl money, but they are fucking good.

>>52446644
>Implying it's not Nurgle

>All new Death guard coming next
>Cultists bare the 3-nails motif used by the Glottkin / Blightkings

The cultist box will be a split box Tzaangor style with auto-pistols and grenade launchers etc for 40k, and banners / swords for AoS

Notice the only thing missing from Rotbringers is a generic 1 wound troop, here it is.

This ties into the Nurgle Battle-tome, which will presumably update Pestilens also.

So then we can give Chaos a rest and move onto some Death faction releases

>>52446898
Cultists can't take grenade launchers in 40k.

>>52446898
Sounds fine to me, bit formulaic. Also you forget to mention the Mortarion+Great Unclean kit.

>>52446934
Fucking flamers/stubbers then, you know what i mean

just rewatched and saw it's a shotgun the grinning dude is holding, so he's the 40k Champion

Guy in the back has some kind of bell, presumably this is for AoS

>>52446898
That would make sense, HOWEVER...

EXALTED BLOOD KHORGORATH with 8-SCARRED SKULL BLOODWHIPS of ETERNAL GORE WRATH

>>52446823
Then they're fimir

>>52446934
Nurgle Cultists might be a completely new unit with god knows what kind of weapons.

>>52446379
If you want a more Vampire-orientated army then the Flesh-Eater Start Collecting is actually really good. The Zombie Dragon can be ridden by a Vampire Lord and the Crypt Horrors can be made into Vargheists. The Malignant Start Collecting also gives you some cavalry, some ghosts and the Mortis Engine can be built as a Coven Throne if you wanted more Soulblights. A box of Zombies will also fill out two slots of your Battleline tax.

>>52446563
Unlike the rest of Death's battlelines, Ghouls work well in minimum squads (or at least they can actually do something other than sit on an objective). If you're making a larger unit, Skeletons and Zombies tend to be better. Zombies can get ridiculous buffs in a large unit and Skeletons are flat-out better than Ghouls at 30+ (apart from movement speed). Ghouls can get buffed by Flesh-Eater-only buffs though, so that's something worth considering.

>>52447013
This, it's Khornes turn for models

>>52446881
Necrosphinx is better and costs less money

>>52446745
>it's like they are actively avoiding making anything Khorne related

The remaining 80% of the factions who have gotten nothing since the relaunch say hi.

>>52447096
>Ebaysphinx
anon, please. Stop telling him lies.

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>>52446523
Lizards are COOL, I think they're in a decent spot right now?
I just got into it a week ago too, I'm bad painting

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>>52447013
>EXALTED BLOOD KHORGORATH with 8-SCARRED SKULL BLOODWHIPS of ETERNAL GORE WRATH

>tfw someone uses your own shitpost against you

>>52447124
Looks alright

Your gold looks too bright though. You should apply a wash of agrax earthshade and then highlight the edges with runefang steel

Bone also needs a wash + highlight.

>>52447096
Not to mention it doesn't look like an angry turd.

>>52447129
It was a pretty good post, 'exalted' and '8-scarred' really gave it the edge. I wish they'd really make exalted versions of everything over the years and attach more and more titles to the khorne stuff. It has this stupidly limitless powerlevel kind of feel like in Dragon Ball Z.

>>52447124
Give the bone an earthshade wash and ushabti highlight. Give the shield maybe a crimson wash with a very gentle drybrushed highlight?

>>52443433

I come here, to be honest. I don't get to play, but I'm still staying hype about things by seeing what goes down in these threads. One day I'll get to play, and be a part of all this.

>>52447124
Nice models, but in the future, can you please flip and resize your pictures?

>>52447377
>tfw I also never play
>but I read all the fluff from codices and battletomes

>>52442517
i wish slaanesh was black

>>52446706
So new armybook, new-mini game and two stormcasts vs khorne (storm of sigmar & thunder/blood) sets is nothing ?

>>52447624
>not picking up on the sarcasm

>>52447624
He's being sarcastic anon. GW pays way too much attention to Khorne and neglects the others gods, most of the posts about Khorne in this general are sarcastic.

>>52447481
I thought AoS is not popular in Sweden.

>>52444673
dude, its because those kits are not popular enough so its put on the backlog to get reprinted, i remember in 2015 before AoS I wanted some thunderers for my Dorfs and the weren't in stock for a good 5 months, if no ones buying it then the algorithm put the restock behind others,
heck, you can do the opposite, this one guy would come into my local GW and would buy all the wraith blisters for a game he was making and the algorithm would automatically double the stock of wraiths because of how popular they were selling, even if its just 1 guy buing them all
fuckin e'll common sense people

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Can anyone please tell me how Army Painter is inferior to Citadel?
Talking about acryl paint only, no shilling allowed.

>>52447686
Because quality is inconsistent in army painter compared to Citadel paints which are always a consistent quality every time. With army painter you could end out with some minis looking different shades than others due to fucked up pigment consistency in their paint.

>>52444452
I like old gutters, but runners are monkey rats

Is it an issue that my Plaguebearers are on 25mm bases?

>>52448129
Nah.

>>52448129
Super competitive tournies? Maybe.

The main rules say it don't matter, so as long as you're not doing it to model for advantage (which someone could argue) you're OK.

Otherwise, who cares?

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>>52446270
Jezzails I used clanrats with Kroot rifles and plasticard pavises.

Globadiers I used these Mantic "veer-myn" models and changed the drill to a rusty blade and added a greenstuff globe to the open hand.

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>>52444814
Okay

>>52444417
This. By the time Archaon got to them they were the last ones standing, meaning chaos probably outnumbered order by a massive degree thanks to all the converts. The fact that it took Archaon himself a century to accomplish this, and that he felt pride in it, shows that the lantic empire was no pushover. It's just, when chaos hordes and greenskins and ogres and even fyreslayers are fuckin up your shit at the same time, over hundreds of years, with tons of internal corruption and sabatoge while undoubtably sending many of their best armies to aid Sigmars war at the allpoints, the fall was inevitable

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Hey GW easy new death models morghast archers fucken shoot 36" -2 rend D6 damage 240 points, or more shots lower damage that's how it works doesn't it? everyone else has them give death some.

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>wake up
>STILL no new khorne release

>>52448226
>Vanguard
>leader model

Let me change this image later with every model being battleline

>>52443323
Why all the manlet hate?

>>52443323
I wouldn't argue with vladdy daddy coming back somehow.

>>52448129
iirc plaguebearers were packaged with both sizes of base so it should be perfectly fine.

>>52448367
The combined forces of the Incarnates had beaten Archaon's armies. He was retreating. All they needed to do was contain the new warp rift and everything would be saved.

Mannfred stabbed Gelt and fucked the ritual to contain it, ending the world.

>>52448509
Kek

>>52448509
I still hang on to a hope that Gelt somehow comes back and royally kicks Mannlets ass for being such a fucking faggot. What did he think he'd achieve by killing Gelt? Honestly

>>52447452
Normally I do but I'm being a dumb phoneposter.

>>52448574
Some people just do things out of spite.

He did it on a grander scale.

>>52448509
Well to be fair, the world was pretty fucked at that point so even if Mannfred hadn't done that, the warhammer world as we know it would be gone.
>lustria, ulthuan and southlands completely destroyed
>every human nation and city destroyed
>dorfs holds gone, remaining dorfs sealed so far in the ruins of karaz-a-karak that they wouldn't have noticed
>empire and elf armies at middenheim were completely wiped out
>incarnates completely drained
>massive greenskins and ogre army right outside
>still massive armies of beastmen, leaderless skaven and chaos warriors wandering the world
>everything east of the words edge mountain overrun by greenskins
>nagash undoubtably planning on betraying them as soon as possible
They gave the illusion that victory was possible, but unless the incarnates got some god powers from that rift (implied in the novel but not the main book) they would have been left in a situation far worse than what they had to deal with after the age of chaos

>>52444391
That's what tree renevants and alarielle is.

>>52448718
Hello slav poster

>>52448263
As much as I'd like to see undead archers, isnt Death (previousl VC) the "no shooting ever" faction?

>>52448509
Manlet ruined everything

>>52448758
Aussie poster mate 3:14 am here

>>52448798
Before the wizard "only 1 spell per turn but prayers are ok nerf" and summoning is pretty shit now nerf it was fair enough. Now there's no reason, its just massive handicap.

>>52444391
Spooky Dark Elf Pirates, faggit.

>>52444513
To be fair, there are fair chunks of the old Empire line that did vanish into the mists.

>>52448903
A fair chunk yes, but not all of it, nor was it squatted.

>>52448941
Not saying it was. But if you enjoyed playing Empire Knights, you're as fucked as Bretonnians.

>>52443228
What the hell is that vampire dwarf head in the background? Weird AoS Hashut?

>>52448958
>Empire Knights
Which is amusing, given that of the three Battalions available to Freeguild, one of them is based around 3 models, only one of which is still sold.

>>52443228
>Fyreslayers vs Flesh-Eater Courts vs Skaven

Is tzeentch worth playing with out splitting pink horror spam? I dont want to paint 40 models for 1 squad. What would that army look like? Already own the new lord of change for 40k so I might try and make a small cross over force.

>>52449072
Tzeentch daemons or mortals, because Skyfires are fantastic.

>>52448668
Those events only began because Mannfred ressurected Nagash

Mannfred is the biggest asshole in the universe

>>52449072
You needreinforcement points for split blue/brimstone Horrors in Matched Play, so it's way less retarded than in 40k. Afaik compared to 40k Screamers suck, but Flamers are awesome.

Is it bad I only want to play non shooting armies - obv death player.

>>52449072
Splitting pink horrors is too expensive a use of reserve points. Horror spam is only good with the batallion, though it is pretty hilarious with it.

But the army is still great. the Tzaangor units are probably the best in the combined total army, but the daemons on their own can be decent. flamers/chariots put out a hilarious amount of shooting and warpflame is actually good in Sigmar.

>>52449166
Errr dumb question but what do you mean the events only happened because Manfred resurrected Nagash - I thought that was seperate and when Nagash failed to become super saijin black pyramid style , he joined the forces against chaos?

Hey /aosg/ what is better to use Necrotec + 2 screaming skull catapults or Manfred on foot + bale wind vortex ( arcane bolt + Manfred spell (2 x D3 mortals))

>>52449274
The entire end times happened because Mannfred ressurected Nagash. Everything was a snowball effect from that event.

The skaven were unified by the GHR because with Nagash alive he sensed the time was right for the skaven to destroy the world

Malekith also decided to launch a new assault against Ulthuan because he sensed it was the right moment.

The death and disease spread by Nagash and the Skaven are what triggered Nurgles rise to power, and so on.

>>52449346
Depends on your list

Mannfreds spell takes multiple turns to get any signficant value, he is like a bad version of a Knight Heraldor

Catapults are always good value. Necrotect has synergy with other units, too

>>52449351
Huh, Mannfred fucked it all up? I would have expected Arkhan to have been the one behind Nagash' resurrection. Since that's basically his shtick along with getting foiled again.

>>52449389
Arkhan came to Mannfred and asked for help to do the ritual necessary to ressurect Nagash. Arkhan would not have been able to perform it by himself.

Mannfred knew what it would mean to ressurect Nagash, but thought he could try to steal nagash's power somehow.

Mannfred is the biggest asshole in the universe.

>>52449389
He was involved, but Mannfred did most of it.

>>52449089
cant you play both together? Sorry I am new to AoS. This would be more of a hobby and casual army. I really enjoy almost every single new model thats been put out in the last few months. Tzangors are really cool but those mortals look amazing too.

40k >>52449238 >>52449167
Oh good no randomly buffing the enemy. The main thing I want to avoid is cheese when I am trying to put together a fluffy hobby army so thats good to know reserves are needed. I will do some research on the army.

Currently own the lord of change and The Tzeentch doombull hero. Any decent units to build around either of them?

>>52449450
Yeah you can play both together, but sometimes people only play one or the other. I was wondering what you wanted to do.

>>52449450
Get a blob of tzaangors to run with the Ogroid. The Ogroid buffs them up. You don't have a Shaman so the elite Tzaangors probably won't help you too much, and they're not really necessary.

Other than that, fit in a couple of Pink Horror squads and a Herald on foot to make sure you're throwing out your Lore of Change+signature spells around and racking up kills against things with heavy armor, while your Warpflame shots eat things without heavy armor alive.

>>52448958

Empire Knights were the absolute most generic and shit empire model that lasted 25 years before being removed.

Even Perry armored cavalry Knights are cheaper and look better

>>52448836
Is Queensland destroyed?

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>>52449849
Nah, but they did find a shark in the flood water.

>>52449739
Not denying this. I actually don't know anyone that didn't use Mounted Men-At-Arms. Just pointing out that the models are gone.

Hell, I really don't know many Empire players that bought Empire shit. The guy I used to play with was almost entirely Perry Mercenaries with some Men-At-Arms. I'm going for Renegade Freeguild using their Redcoats. Fuck, even Bretonnians. I knew two Bretonnian players back in WHFB, and while only one used Perry for his knights, both used them for Peasant Archers.

Also, goddamnit, if now I don't want to vastly cut down and convert an actual Carroccio for use as a War Alter. I'm kinda surprised Perry even makes one. Just buy the wagon itself, hitch it to some Chaos mounts.
>https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?products_id=2748

>>52449450
If you wanted a nice, fat 2k list to play with what you were thinking, I would go

Heroes

Lord of Change (General ability: Aether Tether, Hero Ability: Pyrofyre Stave, Weapon: the gun, Lore of Change: Tzeentch's Firestorm)

Ogroid thaumaturge (I would use Wicked Shard, but others are fine, Lore of Fate: Glimpse the Future,)

Battleline

Tzaangors (30): 6 Mutants, 12 Greatblades (leader and musicians go here, though I think shield arms look better with the horns purely visually), 12 Shields and Blades

10 Pink Horrors (Fold Reality)

10 Pink Horrors (Bolt of Change)

Burning Chariot

Burning Chariot

Flamers (6)

>>52449849
Only the middle bit.

>>52449053
>>52448981
It's just a fluff story for a narrative battle.

FEC interrupt a Skaven vs Fyreslayer fight and they beat both armies up.

New player looking to start up death trail mix. What's the best battleline and general for 1k? Skeles look neat. Was considering going bone zone with a wight king or vampire lord for general. I like the nighthaunt stuff, so hexwraiths are an option. I need this to be as cheap as possible.

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>>52444391
WOOD
AELVES
WHEN

>>52450961
Skeletons are the best battleline. Get a Wight King with Black Axe if you're getting one.

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>>52451045
Now.

>>52451165
Is that better than a VL?

>>52451209
I mean if you want to go full skeleton, you'll want two wight kings anyway. One Tomb Blade and Infernal Standard and one Black Axe.

A Wight King with Black Axe is probably better than a regular VL, though, yes.

>>52451191
HOLY SHIT GOD TIER FIGURE

>>52450961
If you want cheap, then let me tell you what you do. Ignore the Bone Zone, those xylaphones are a bunch of nambly punks. What you want are zombies, more zombies, and even more zombies. You want them, because Mantic loves you and wants you to be happy.
>http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/undead/product/undead-gravestalker-horde-60-figures-and-tombstones.html
Sixty zombies/ghouls for $65 along with a plethora of surprisingly high-detail tombstones. Buy two of those, then buy two sets of Dire Wolves for $50. Add in two Corpse Carts, and either a Wight King or a Necromancer with Ruler of the Night as your Command Trait, and laugh.

At a 1000 points, you'll be running
>2 10x Dire Wolves
>80x Zombies, divided as you desire
>2 Corpse Carts
>Leader

Just drown your enemy in a tide of decaying, rotting flesh. If you love the smell of death, just double it at 2000 points and see how well your opponent can chew through hundreds of regenerating zombies.

>>52448268
Done.

>the city of Death

>>52444391
Why not playing high elves?

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>>52451408
Need to add legion of azgorh to Chaos since they even got a new release recently with Shartor

>>52451459
cause Wood Elves are better

>>52451408
Are those battleline? I thought Arkanauts were Kharadron battleline?

>>52451488
Then why crying there is no elf armies?

>>52451484
no battletome
no relevant army :^)

>>52451511
Can you provide an image of an Arkanaut? I will add this unit instead.

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>>52451459
not tat guy but if you take elves against anything in this picture >>52451408 you basically auto lose.

new stuff>>old stuff.

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>>52451541

>>52451517
cause there are no new wood elves, Sylvaneth sucks

>52451576
Nice bait, asshole.

>>52451521
REEEEEEEE

>>52451629
explain why he is wrong instead of having a mini autistic freak out.

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>>52451577
Done.

>>52451315
I'll go pure skele then. Is the battalion worth it? How about a necromancer?

Leaders
Necromancer (120)
- General
- Trait: Master of the Black Arts
- Artefact: Cursed Book

Battleline
20 x Zombies (120)
20 x Zombies (120)
30 x Skeleton Warriors (240)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
3 x Spirit Hosts (120)

Units
1 x Corpse Cart (80)

Behemoths
Mortis Engine (180)

Total: 980/1000

>>52451750
Necromancer has a fantastic buff spell, get one, lets you attack twice.

VANHEL’S DANSE MACABRE
The undead are filled with magical energy that causes them to jerk forwards and attack with tireless, unnatural speed. Vanhel’s Danse Macabre has a casting value of 6. If successfully cast, pick a Skeleton, Mordant or Zombie unit within 18"; that unit can pile in and attack twice in your next combat phase.

Definitely get one if you're planning on using big blocks of skeletons.

I wouldn't bother with the battalion.

>>52448668
>lustria destroyed
Part of Lustria is floating above the SCE cities in the order realm

>>52451801
What about the necrotect?

>>52451732
The Death one looks too much like the Vargheist Soulblight models. Maybe use one of the non-winged ones?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12641373

What alliance/alliances do you guys play/collect?

>>52451832
Not as useful as the necromancer, but could be alright.

>>52451711
Him first. He needs to provide proofs that it is impossible to win against any pictured army with aelves. Unless he provides indisputable empirical proof, he's just spouting his opinion as fact and doing for the purpose of trolling and baiting.

So him first. He needs to back up his autistic screeching first.

>>52451577
Well fuck, these actually look pretty cool.

>>52451875
(Don't know the death allegiance stuff, so I left it blank)

Hows this? Do I need Knights?

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Wight King with Black Axe (120)
- General
Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120)
Necromancer (120)
Necromancer (120)

Battleline
30 x Skeleton Warriors (240)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
30 x Skeleton Warriors (240)
- Ancient Spear & Shield

Total: 960/1000

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>>52451888
>impossible to win
what you said
>>52451576
>basically auto lose
what he said

totally different things

stop bullshitting around. you know as well as anyone that a well tuned army from any of these new factions >>52451732 will wipe the floor with any elf army you can put on the table.

its not even funny.

>>52451941
More opinions.

Morghasts 240pts - $90AUD , blood knights 240pts - $160 AUD . what the fuck if only GW would make blood Knight's reasonable price every death player would buy them . why is GW be shit cunts with blood knights?

>>52451808
I can't believe Lizardmen are fucking our women...

>>52451986
look we're both order now

Sigmar's ok with it

>>52451930

At 1000 points, I'd cut the skeleton blocks down to 20, you can bring back losses with Icon bearers, to save points, then bring in either Hexwraiths or Black Knights to support those blocks.

If you expand past 1000 points, bring your blocks up to 30 again.

>>52452054
How many blocks should I need then?

>>52451971
Blood Knights have been like that literally forever. They've always been hilariously over-priced to the point that every person I've ever known who ran Blood Knights just bought Bretonnians and painted them red. Though Mantic's Soul Reaver Cavalry are pretty good.

But yeah, Blood Knights and Sisters of Slaughter / Witch Aelves are jokes. The Slut Aelves are $6 per Shitcast Infantry model, and Blood Knights are $20 a head. At least Blood Knights aren't the only Battleline available for their army. I suspect you'd see a lot more Daughters of Khaine if the battleline troops were so fucking fucking expensive. Two 20-man units to satisfy Batteline requirements and get the unit buff sets you back $240 before you even get to look at the incredibly fucking awesome Doomfire Warlocks.

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>>52452065
At a 2000? 3, really. Maybe even bring them up to 40 and use them as the basis for the rest of your army.

No matter what army you are, 120 fearless models coming at you are scary.

>>52452119
I meant 1k
Here's where we are now

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120)
Wight King with Black Axe (120)
- General
Necromancer (120)

Battleline
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
20 x Skeleton Warriors (160)
- Ancient Spear & Shield

Units
5 x Hexwraiths (160)
5 x Hexwraiths (160)

Total: 1000/1000

>>52452150
Drop the second unit of Hexwraiths and hold back that 160 as a Summoning Pool. That way you can drop the unit down later if needed, or turn it into more Skellingtons.

>>52446644
PESTIGOR
L
O
W

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>>52446644
clearly its the new dark elf open top skimmer with a 5+ save a 6+ invuln and 5 hull points that explodes when destroyed on a 2+ doing 1 mortal wound to every model being transported.

Im sure itll have the requisite splinter cannons with 8 attacks, hitting and wounding on 5+, rend -, damage 1. At about 400 points I'm sure itll move a lot of boxes in stores.

I mean dark elves suck in 40K so why not in AOS too?

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>>52452119
>120
Don't make me laugh

Allegiance: Death

Leaders
Wight King with Baleful Tomb Blade (120)
Wight King with Black Axe (120)
- General
Necromancer (120)
Necromancer (120)
Necromancer (120)
Necromancer (120)

Battleline
40 x Skeleton Warriors (320)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
40 x Skeleton Warriors (320)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
40 x Skeleton Warriors (320)
- Ancient Spear & Shield
40 x Skeleton Warriors (320)
- Ancient Spear & Shield

Total: 2000/2000

>>52452200
Then why not put both units for summoning?

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>>52452209
Truly, you are the master of the bone zone.

>>52452226
Because it can fail, you want one on the table in case.

Before I buy a load of state troops what does this list look like?

Allegiance: Order

Freeguild General On Griffon (300)
- General
- Shield & Greathammer
- Trait: Inspiring
- Artefact: Relic Blade
30 x Freeguild Guard (240)
- Sword & Shield
10 x Freeguild Guard (80)
- Halberd
10 x Freeguild Handgunners (100)
10 x Freeguild Handgunners (100)
10 x Freeguild Greatswords (160)

Total: 980/1000

>>52452209
Stupid Rattle-Me-Bones, thinking they know what a true Horde of Death looks like. When 4chan tells you your post is spam because you wrote so many zombies that you've got to reformat, you're on the right track.

Allegiance: Death

>Leaders
Necromancer (120)

>Battleline
6 40x Zombies (1440)

>Units
Corpse Cart (80)
Corpse Cart (80)
2 10x Dire Wolves (120)

Total: 1960/2000

>>52452226
Redundancy. Having some cavalry on the board Turn 1 that can move can be really helpful. You're not always going to get the Summon off on the first try, and then you're looking at 'hopefully' getting the same spell off two turns in a row. Remember the Rule of One, can only cast the same spell once.

>>52451971
Dragon
Princes
Of
Caledor

>>52452338
>griffon
Dropped right there. Put the nigger on a horsie or on foot.
>10-man halberds
Please, stop. That's just a trash-can version of Greatswords. Run your Freeguild as tarpits. Sword and board, or militia weapons if you wanna get dumb.
>2 10-man units of handgunners
Just why.

Please, stop drinking and make your list while sober. That's a hot fucking mess.

>>52452209
Why the fuck 4 necromancers are you retarded? Just eBay TK if u wanna bonezon

>>52452427
What's wrong with a griffon

Is it actually possible to run a decent Deathlords army? Or are they just too low in number?

>>52452485
Command ability's trash compared to Hold the Line.

>>52452566
How would you re-write that Freeguild list at 1000 points?

>>52451801
Is that "can be chosen twice in one phase" or "once chosen, goes twice in a row"?

I hate the wording on that.

>>52452765
>can be chosen twice in one phase
this

>>52452698
By writing down pretty much anything but that. A good staple is the State Troop Detachment.
>General
>2 units of 20-man Handgunners
That's your core. From there, you can either add in more handgunners and take Greatswords as a melee screen. Or toss in guard for the third slot and get some Pistoliers/Outriders for either a cavalry torpedo or skirmishers. The State Troop Detachment is definitely worth the points, but if you don't want to use it or have assholes that whine about legacy battalions, you can cut those points and just get more boots. Bump up the Handgunners to 30-man units, for instance, with a 20-man guard screen and a unit of gun-horses.

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>license the fuck out of Warhammer fantasy
>people wanting to move on to tabletop because of these games will find AoS in its place

what did gw mean by this?

>>52452933
GW being fucking retarded and keeping the skubtasy vs age of skub shitposting alive

>>52452933
Idk, but you basically just described how I got into aos (thanks vermintide) with pestilens. I mean, aos is a fun game, yes, but I still prefer the old world that vermintide got me reading about. If I could start all over though, I'd have started with death. I'm not a fan of high fantasy, and I like the more gothic/grimdark stuff.

>>52452933
Because they probably started making these games before Age of Sigmar was properly announced.

>>52452870
So this better?

Allegiance: Order

Freeguild General (100)
- General
- Stately War Banner
- Warhorse
- Trait: Strategic Genius
- Artefact: Relic Blade
20 x Freeguild Handgunners (200)
20 x Freeguild Handgunners (200)
20 x Freeguild Guard (160)
- Sword & Shield
20 x Freeguild Greatswords (320)

Total: 980/1000

>>52453018
Much, much better. 10-man handgunner units are basically worthless. There's no reason to run them, especially TWO of them instead of 20-man blocks to get the bonus. That looks like a perfectly solid list, though it's pretty static. I personally enjoy tossing in some cavalry just to give myself a bit more added maneuverability, but it's far from necessary, especially at 1000 points.

Also, when playing Empire, Perry is your friend.

>>52453046
My local meta is a lot of Bloodbound and other rush forward armies so a turn or two of shooting with the bonuses to hit will be a godsend.

>>52453077
>Bloodbound
Lul. Yeah, you shouldn't have any real issue. Always expect your Guard to die. They're only there to stall the enemy and allow your handgunners to dump shot after shot into them. Fight to your strengths, not your weakness. If you notice your Greatswords getting dumpstered, rotate them out for more guns, be they infantry or cavalry. If you need to deal with wizards, I'd honestly recommend getting either Huss or Volkmar instead of an actual wizard. Gives you the ability to unbind as well as some relevant prayers. Do NOT ever run a Warrior Priest. They now only give buffs to Devoted of Sigmar units which you are not.

A pair of Empire Cannons and a [Human] [Engineer] is also 440 points for 4 shots at 40'' that hit on a 4+ with a reroll, wounding on 2+ with -2 Rend and d6 damage. That can also dump out Mortal Wounds when things get up close. Grapeshot lets you select a unit and then roll a die for every model within 10'', with every 6 dealing a mortal wound. A pair of Empire Cannons and a [Human] [Engineer] tend to kill things.

>>52452970
they literally JUST announced development of a new one

How hard have I fucked up?

Leaders
Warlock Engineer (100)
Warlock Engineer (100)

Battleline
20 x Skryre Acolytes (240)
3 x Stormfiends (300)

Units
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)

War Machines
Doomwheel (140)

Total: 1000/1000

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>>52452024

>>52453569
THEY ARE FUCKING OUR WOMEN!

Got a Big Destruction Army and wanted to pick some units for a 1,000p Game

Allegiance: Destruction

Leaders
Orruk Megaboss (140)
- General
Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)

Battleline
3 x Ogors (120)
3 x Ogors (120)
5 x Orruk Brutes (180)
3 x Icefall Yhetees (120)

Units
20 x Savage Orruk Arrowboys (200)

Total: 1000/1000


Still have some beastclaw Raiders stuff aside, what u think?

>>52452209
Bare in mind you can only cast each spell once in matched play, so one of those Necromancers can't cast anything at all.

Also, one of the death allegiance perks lets you turn your general into a Wizard, so you can replace 3 of those necromancers with more skeletons, and still be able to cast both the Necromancers spell and mystic shield.

Could even get another Wight King with an infernal standard to make them harder to kill as well.

>>52453558
I feel like Globadiers are kinda shitty and min-squad only, i'd go with 10, and upgrade the engineer to the Master warplock ikit guy.

extra points. Get a rattling gun? your biggest problem is the enemy will target the Stormfiends, and with them dead your army is just a handful of fragile shit

>>52452209
Hm, I know you buy Mantic for Zombies, but who do you purchase bulk skellingtons from, especially with that same restrained goofiness of the Tomb Blade Wight King? Nothing as comically shitty as the mounted Wight King, nor as over-designed as the Black Axe one. About the same level of camp as Grave Guard, I guess.

>>52447082
>Khornes turn for models
there is no way you actually believe this

khorne had an entire new faction in aos

khorne is in the fucking starter box

>>52453945
I'd probably say stick with Mantic. You aren't going to get the crazy deal like you get with Zombies, but 40 for $50 still ain't bad. And I actually like their Revenant Cavalry more than Black Knights.

>>52453582
i want to fuck a female Lizard

Wait, why the fuck don't Deathrattle get Skeleton Archers? I mean, you can just grab them from the Tomb Kings, but that just seems weird as fuck. Especially given that the only difference between Skeleton Warriors and TK Skeleton Warriors is the ability to take Tomb Shields.

>>52454046
I do t like those models :/ I like the dark gothic look

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>>52453582
Or maybe...their women are coming to fuck you?

>>52454079
The internet has got you covered, my guy

Does this weeks white dwarf mention the upcoming preorders? Will the kharadron overlords be up for order this week?

>>52453945
Black Axe Wight King used to be a special character, that's why he looks so different.

>>52454112
>The internet has got you covered, my guy
yiss

>>52454154
Khorne this week.

Then the Kharadron book next week.

Then the models the week after that.

>>52454154
Pre orders start on the 8th, Khorne battletome on the first

>>52454171
I think you mean
yiff

LIZARDS ARE NOT FOR SEXUAL

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>>52454104
Fair enough, though Mantic's skeletons still have a good deal of that but without going all out on the winged helms and the like. I personally prefer it that way, helps make Grave Guard pop. Also, I fucking love how goddamn nefarious Mantic's skeleton heads look.

And all overlords coming in one big release? Pre-Order on 15.?

>>52454332
No one knows, wasn't in WD, just the book next week.

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So I recently bought a megaboss and a box of brutes with the intention of starting up AOS.
Can anybody help me out with a relatively simple yet effective 1000 point list with ironjaws?
What are other good buys besides the two I have and what is generally regarded as the best way to build brutes?

>>52446898
We probably will not see new death releases until after GHB 2 since the whole GA needs tuning for matched play. Alternatively, summoning rules need to be tuned to unfuck death.

Has GW ever done that? Released the book before minis? I cant recall the last time they did

>>52454636
I love and I fucking hate summoning rules in matched play. Like, it does make sense and it still offers a reward of the added unpredictability of what the summoning pool can turn into. But fuck if sound weird to set up a 1400 points against a 2000 point army.

>>52454756

Its deep strike by another name. Get over it

Is a Slann really needed if I'm not going to be doing any summoning? Their Celestial Configuration seems really nice, but I'm wondering if there are better general options.

>>52454785
This. I'd say deep strike with more reserves options.

This is all shit, GW ruined everything

NEW DEATH BATTLETOME WHEN

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>>52454880

>>52454976
>>52454976
>>52454976

migrate to lizard-free zone

>>52454636
>implying GW isn't trying to phase death out of the setting because it doesn't fit, and replace it with a construct or golem faction or something dumb

>>52454875
It's not like Death has much utility units unlike Sepharon or Demons. So they don't really benifit much from the freedom provided by summoning.