Pathfinder General /pfg/

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>>52445158
Dragons 2 was last night. Here's a more detailed recap of the last part

>Shitty memedog attempts to move plot forward by talking with not!Jessica Rabbit's rival
>Gets annoyed with all the barbs and insults being thrown
>Gets REALLY annoyed when a quarter of the session goes by discussing Calsica's tits
>Annoyance level reaches MAXIMUM when they get ambushed
>And nobody was on the lookout
>They were all looking at Calsica's tits
>Memedogs face when they're surrounded by dragons with axes and fireballs all ready prepped

How have your sessions gone, /pfg/?

>>52445158
I like the elves. I play a lot of half-elves with cute elf parents, like a Qadiran Bloodrager whose mom owned his elven father, or an Andoran cleric whose elven mother abandoned him because she was a murder hobo who wanted to go fight demons.

>>52445158
The half-elves from BF:I basically sum up my opinion from them. Racist shits who need to remove the entire uprooted trees from their collective assholes.

>>52445279

What's your opinion of Half-Elves who are the children of Half-Elves.

>>52445291
There are half-elves in Battlefield I?

>>52445225
Cashmere and Gloriana are gunna meet a river monster tonight! That might be several monster statblocks stapled together! And they're only level 3!

>>52445301
My ex-wife liked them, but I find them less compelling somehow. I've always gravitated towards the human/elf couple, in varying configurations. Another I used was retired adventurer's elf buddy pays him a visit years later to hang out, and falls for his cute daughter. The child grew up to become an earnest, Torm-fearing Paladin of Devotion with a loving noble family.

>>52445158
I've got my own 'original' idea for elves which I might use for some future setting.

High-magic, super advanced as usual, but with one difference. Due to some 'they delved too greedily' shit, they all got mind-blanked, and are now cared for by their legions of leftover automaton servants- almost a Bioshock Big Daddy relationship.

Means that when you see an elf, in ten minutes one of two things are going to happen- a drop of spit is going to spill down its mouth, or a brass metal man is going to appear and knock you into the next state while gently leading the elf back to its rocking chair.

>>52445369
Stealing the fuck out of this.

>>52445308
Is one of those monsters a Dire Octopus?

>>52445343
Nice to see some PF/FR, anon.

>>52445386
He was from Tethyr. It was pretty fun.

The other one is on the limit?

Anyway, 2 (out of 4) of my players were captured during a raid on a lair of some smugglers. Their ringleader, a mage, will put a geas on them.
What should I have them do?
Have them try to expose a rival company?

>>52445380
Some sort of tentacled monstrosity, no doubt.

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So RotJR is tomorrow. Will Ameiko be having a litter of fluffy abominations now? Will her future subjects ever be willing to listen to a bunch of noble brats that bark?

>>52445404
My last campaign was in and around Tethyr. FR beats the piss outta Golarion, you ask me.

>>52445158
>Does /pfg/ like elves, or is it all about the animal races and the tieflings around here?

Elves are a pretty shit race, but most races are. Like all Tolkien races, they usually accomplish nothing that humans can't already do and generally just serve as a stereotype crutch, instead of allowing players to create characters with actually non-human alien traits. If an animal race is played like an intelligent animal that walks upright, you could probably create some interesting scenarios. That said, most people are too terrified of furries and just "Refluff" them as anime girls wearing animal accessories.

>>52445417
Half-gnoll? Not sure I've seen that. Bloodforge?

>>52445158
>the she's a trap

>>52445497
She has tits.

>>52445427
What do you mean non-human alien traits? Give an example. In the end it actually comes down to the setting. Angels can be made alien as fuck but most people don't want to play angels that act alien.

>>52445380
No one but Vult knows

>imagine their disappointment when nothing lewd happens

>>52445518
part of the HRT treatment.

>>52445574
if she's on HRT it's not a trap, it's a trans girl. traps have to be guys, that's the POINT.

>>52445225
So what's the detailed recap that isn't entirely focused on how important Rory is?

>>52445518
>What do you mean non-human alien traits?
At the very least, a race that isn't just human with a weird skin color. In a high magic system I feel like all races should be four-legged/ooze/plant/construct/swarm of bees/whatever balanced for lvl 1-20. Shit like vishkanya, gillmen and fetchling just seem really boring to me.

>>52445490
Or even full blooded. Getting gnoll-knocked in an AP with Lamashtu around seems likely to do that. Maybe fiendish too.

>>52445645
But why?

>>52445427
Generally what they accomplish is to be a peaceful society in harmony with nature...something humans can't accomplish and that's why elves lose and die out vs human societies.

Or elves are represented as just being pointy eared long lived humans.

>>52445417

Ameiko didn't get penetrated in FotJR, and if she did the gnoll didn't finish in her. You're thinking of SotJR.

>>52445842
Right, which is tomorrow as stated in >>52445417 and then SotRL has Quinn pups, maybe. Depends on if the gnoll finished at least once before it got killed.

>>52446075
Wait strike that, read it all dyslexic and fucked up the days. My bad.

>How much of a shit show do you guys think it would have been if I had said the girls in Vanaheim (Titania's influence) are like russian roulette except with penises instead of bullets?
>t. Vult

>>52445158
Playing blingmaker. Two player party. Last character died in a random encounter with a whiptail on plains that rolled a nat 20 for initiative.

25 point buy at a flat rate (5 for 15, 8 for 18, etc)

Lv 3, can include up to a +1 template.

Was considering were-tiger beastmorph vivissectionist, but the wife's playing a shadow halfling rogue and I really want to give her room to shine, so what's the best support character?

Wizard with a template that gives int would probably work, but what else is there?

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>>52446255

Man, that guy just keeps getting worse and worse.

>>52446272
Forgot to mention the template is free of cost.

>>52446277
>How dare he include [kink] in his smut gane!

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So rolling a cleric for a 20 pb paizo only game of hells vengeance. Not sure if I should grab an archetype or not. Any suggestions?

>>52446326

Ecclesitheurge is pretty great if you need to buff party members without expending spell slots.

>>52446326
A S M O D E A N

A D V O C A T E

It's pretty shit, but it's flavorful. For broken stuff, consider a Theologian with the nobility domain, if your GM allows leadership.

>You’ve studied the methods of both elven and human spellcasters. Pick two classes when you gain this trait—your caster level in each of those classes is treated as 1 higher as long as this doesn’t raise your caster level above your total Hit Dice. This doesn’t stack with any similar increase from traits such as Magical Knack.

Does this work with a Prestige Classes? Say you pick Arcane Trickster and Wizard. Do you get 2 caster levels? RAW it seems pretty obvious to me.

>>52446255
Are they feminine penises ?

>>52446349
I was kind of leaning to that, the lack of armor is making me hesitant though.
>>52446356
I took a look at that, unfortunately I want to pick up undeath domain so I can channel heal my party in a pinch.

>>52446368
btw, it's called Bifurcated Magic, half elf only race trait.

>>52446314

I would've been more excited if he also said the men from Vanaheim occasionally sport members of bestial proportion, or even design.

But nah, gotta put dicks on the girls. That's the good stuff.

>>52446368
Not unless your prestige class has a caster level, such as red mantis assasin.

>>52446378
>the lack of armor is making me hesitant though.

Consider the fact you shouldn't be on the frontlines in the first place!

>>52446403
Can I trust my party to not get me killed though?

>>52446397
They need to have their own caster level? Isn't it enough that it applies caster level from a different caster class?

>>52446419

I don't know, can you?

>>52446421
No because they do not have a caster level they add +1 level of an existing class.

>>52446387
If he had said that, all of the apps would have been from there.

>>52446438
I just feel weird putting that much reliance on my party to keep me alive early game, I guess once I hit level 3 it will be better, but 10 ac and 8 hp scares me.

>>52446442
Hmm, I guess that makes sense.

>>52445627
here
>>52442109

>>52446457
Have you never played a caster before

>>52446403
Ranged attacks son.
>>52446499
Not him, but 10 AC HP 8 casters fucking die in real games. pretty fucking fast too.

>>52446509
If you have 10 AC and 8 HP then maybe you should have 20 INT for boatloads of spells

>>52446499
Yes and cleric seems to lack a lot of the low level spells to keep shit near you shut down or unable to act against you.

>>52446457
you should have more than 10 ac...

Shield, Mage armor, and some dex should all boost it up

>>52446528
Won't save you from a stray arrow knocking you int negatives.

>>52446544
We are discussing cleric with one of the Archetypes that trade away armor and weapon prof.

>>52446547
Sleep / Color Spray / Daze + Magic Missile lad
and every single level 1 character can die fucking fast

>>52446547
If only there were spells to do that!
>>52446553
Shield and Mage Armor don't require proficiency and don't interfere with Blessing of the Faithful.

>>52446553
If you're using an archetype like that, chances are that you won't be making attack rolls anyway, so non-proficiency penalties don't matter.

So how does acid pit work against items? Is it 1 at a time until they're broken or does the GM use the chart to figure out what he rolls first before rolling everything?

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So, what's the final judgement on Monster Hunter's Handbook? It can't be 100% shit right? I know there's got to be a couple usable things in there, even if it's just spells.

>>52446578
Sheild and mage armor are not on the cleric list.
There is divine Sheild but that is only two ac.
>>52446579
Armor turns off a class ability that can hand out +2 basically everything for a round to an ally in close range.

>>52446607
wands nigguh

>>52446598
its 100% shit

>>52446621
Wands that require the spell to be on your spell list?

>>52446629
yes, because no one in your party has any arcane spells and none of them pack UMD

>>52446625
Even the feat that gives characters Favored Enemy, and the Psychodermist?

>>52446637
My party is an antipaladin, a cavalier, and a slayer.

>>52446637
Than the party was a ticking time bomb anyway.

>>52446648
le Fireball Faec

>>52446648
Maybe playing an ubersquish backliner isn't worth it then.

Play a fucking bard, you'll support better and be more durable.

>>52446598

Paizo has lost even the ability to put gems in shit, it's just shit now.

MHH was wasted potential and we both know Ironfang Invasion is going to be atrocious.

>>52446666
quads of truth.

>>52446663
We did class selection in a weird way. So I am stuck with cleric.

>>52446673
quit the game then, if you can't play whatever character class you like then its trash anyways

>>52446666

>Amber Scott leading Ferric Onslaught

SAUSAGE PAIZO

>>52446676
>bad wrong fun
I am fine with playing cleric I am just getting ideas for how to play it.
I like getting put out of the comfort zone of what I usually default to.

>>52445225

Fuck swimming eagle for ending apps early.

I hope this salty post brings SOMEBODY some enjoyment because I sure don't have any.

>>52446694
this has nothing to do with badwrongfun and everything to do with a party that is headed for disaster with no arcane caster

Don't play an Ecclesitheurge, its going to get you killed and its shitty little buff won't help you at all.

Play an Evangelist Cleric instead, you're a pseudo-bard at least and you'll be able to buff your party from the backlines better and safer.

>>52446736

Let the campaign burn, anon. This is the bed SwimmingEagle made, I'm sure he's loving it.

>>52446762
Nobody playing is actually upset.

Why is everyone so salty.

>>52446771

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME WHO GOT IN.

ME!

>>52446802
over who

>thread discussion of hunter builds a while ago
How the fuck did I miss this. Rocs are the fucking coolest shit, I want to ride one and have my party HALO jump off it with featherfall into mobs of enemies. Too bad I never get into games that aren't generic dungeon delving. Wanting to ride the fantasy equivalent of a B-52 is suffering.

>>52446815
SHITTY MEMEDOG

>>52446831
Why?

>>52446815

The complete non-characters that are Rorymei and Liozis. What the fuck have they been doing these past sessions, nobody's mentioned them ONCE in a greentext.

>>52446831
what makes you better than the shitty memedog

>>52446822

I want to Roc. Can't stop the Roc.

>>52446838
Rorymei and Liozis just aren't LOUD personalities like the rest.

>>52445605
Uh, just because you're taking hormones doesn't mean you're magically no longer a guy.

Like okay it's one thing to accept it if they've gone so far as to get that plastic surgery and change the outtie into an innie, but until then they're just someone who *wants* to be a girl.

I want to be an astronaut, but it would be inaccurate and somewhat decietful to start demanding everyone call me one when I've never gone past the stratosphere. As much as I want to be one: I. Am. Not. One.

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>Nobody here likes anything Paizo puts out
>Nobody here likes anything 3rd party pubs put out
>Nobody here likes the system it's based on
>Nobody here even likes the system
>Nobody here likes the crowd Pathfinder attracts

So why does any of you even play, want to play or pretend to play Pathfinder if none of you can be satisfied with anything that is even remotely associated with the system, it's publishers, it's 3rd part pubs and especially anything related to anything that has come out of /pfg/ in the last....how old is the general again?

>>52445417
What the fuck does RotJR even stand for?

>>52446865
>all of /pfg/ is one person

>>52446850
C A N Y O U S M E L L
W H A T T H E R O C
I S C O O K I N '

>>52446865
/5eg/doesn't host games.

>>52446836
>>52446840
Because Roryplayer only got in because he refused to shut up about his character during the app process and samefagged mercilessly. When people called him out on it he made up some shit about trying to "overmeme" the character to kill the meme (as if that would ever work). The player's a shitter and he'll keep being a shitter. The private ERP logs he posted in the general are proof of that. He may be better for the time being, but he's going to eventually slide back into his shitty ways and make everybody regret him being allowed to play.

>>52446865
>>Nobody here likes anything 3rd party pubs put out
Not true, we like Jolly's stuff and most of us still like DSP stuff. In the latter case they've just been dropping the ball like fucking mad because it becomes more and more obvious they just stick with cribbing good 3.5 shit.

That being said, I'm begining to wonder if it would be easier to port the good bits of PF into 3.5 as opposed to the other way around.

>>52446875
So it's just one person who always replies to things relating to Paizo and just one person who dislikes PoW, SoM and others and only one person who has said that they only pirate because they don't want paizo to get money?

>>52446872
Rory on the Journey Radical

>>52446865

We're here for erp dude

>>52446922
It's almost like /pfg/ is 90-100~ odd posters all with differing opinions on the game and balance.

>>52446922
Its almost like its a bunch of different people with a bunch of different opinions, not a singular person with one opinion

>>52446854
To add to this, they were also the only people who were keeping the party at attention without being overly antagonistic like the pupper. Lio in particular was the only person trying to mediate all the conflicts that were going on.

Also, it might've helped if this weren't a quickie session on account of one of the players having a computer essentially nonfunctional and needing to phonepost. Would've padded out some of the more bullshit moments.

Admittedly, it does raise some questions on how to improve the party dynamics for the other DragonGroup...

>>52446922
Are you trying to pretend that everyone is secretly 2hu

>>52446953
Yes because it gets ,e (you)'s. My quota is now full and can return to my regularly scheduled suicide attempt

>>52446872
Rise of the Jade Regent. Book 1 of Rise of the Runelords leading into Jade Regent. The DM is running two games of it on Fri and Sat, recently had drama over raping an important, romanceable NPC with no warning.

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>>52446922
There's 1-3 with every opinion.
There's some who utterly despise PoW, some who love it. Some who hate SoM, some who'd do anything to avoid vancian. Some love psionics, some still say it doesn't belong in the setting. Some deny Numeria and Alkenstar exist, others if asked to base a character off someone from a game or anime would post a fucking starship*.

And every one of them has opinions on each of those subjects.


*Hey, it's better than basing it off something out of bleach.

>>52446922
Paizo releases a lot of shit. Like, A LOT of shit. A book or three a month. There's usually cool shit in those books, like how blood of the beast had loads of awesome options, or how the vigilante was genuinely a good class. This month, the "cool shit" was a single feat for Slayers and MAYBE that cavalier archetype in the mountain of rotting feces that was MHH.

3pps are hit or miss, but have more opportunities to make cool shit. Sometimes they hit gold (Jolly with legendary Kineticists/Vigilantes) and sometimes they just fall face first.

>>52446949
yeah, its one of those things i'm sure will normalize once the party has been together

And fighting together usually brings a party together.

>>52447024
Oh no you're going to trigger the guy about cha based catfolk inquisitors

>>52447024
They also have a lot of shit, as in a lot of SHIT.

>>52446949
Is the first dragon group not doing so well?

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When your party last stopped by in a city, did your character and your party share a big hearty laugh and a good meal it a slightly more high end tavern or restaurant?

>>52447052
Seriously, both dragon games are a case of 'garbage in, garbage out'

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What are my race options for playing pic related?
Any 3pp is fine, including homebrew. My GM has a lenient "if it looks balanced and you really want it I'll allow it" attitude. Even 3.5 content is okay sometimes.

I'm struggling to find even one bug race, right now.

>>52447066
No my character would not be caught dead eating with her party.

>>52447077
Stop being a salty shit

>>52447034
Are you implying I am ever NOT triggered by that? Or everything about the catfolk section in general?
Every fucking time I go to make a character I look at catfolk and realize Kitsune are just straight up better for everything I want and it makes me mad.

>>52447094
See! See! I knew it would happen!

>>52447094
Catfolk have the superior natural weapon options.

>>52447066

Of course! What kind of man would I be if I didn't host a dinner for the party whenever we went into town? In fact, since I've got lots of points into Profession (Cook) I might as well stock up on herbs and spices for our next foray into the wilderness!

>>52445158
s-s-s-shitseeker thread

>>52447126
nice meme dude

>>52447134
>posts in a meme thread about a meme game
>complaining about memes

>>52447066
My chaotic good half-orc barbarian ensures that the party always goes to unwind at a very specific tavern. A tavern that mostly patrons Hellknights. He also always kicks the door real hard and makes a grand entrance. He's paid to repair it once already.
So far, we've gotten into two bar brawls, gotten locked up for three days for "disturbing the peace" and caused about 12 Hellknights to break their oaths by getting really fucking drunk. The owner went from "Ugh, these peasants again" to "Oh, it's my favorite customers!"
Overall the tavern went from "High-end Hellknight Hangout" to "that place those adventurers crash every evening"
It's been great.

>>52447052
It's not that they're not doing well, so much as they're doing TOO well together. Everyone settled into their roles rather quickly without any conflict at all.

>Zev and Celisse act as the faces, with the latter being the casty support as well while the former issues class and combat.
>Lameeka is the sneeky explody bootybold. Sort of a nerd.
>Atolm is the utility knife with timefuckery powers. Also, he gets to act as a familiar and sneak peeks.
>Astarte...well, she's looking for a way to be a dragon. Trying to find ways to develop her further besides that and being a nerd.
>Freyda is the super-alpha-ultra-turbo-championship-edtion+ nerd and top-tier caster.

As Celisse's player, I'm kinda remorseful because I feel like I haven't given the others a lot of room to develop more because I got an entire country, a husband, and a royal family to use as backstory. And last session I went on explaining some of this a LOT while the tinyfolk went out sleuthing. Granted, nobody's holding it against me, but it's still something I've noticed and I want the others to have a similar chance.

Hopefully they'll have more opportunities to build something more with the upcoming royal ball.

>>52447079
You guys reckon it's bullshit if I just use the Non-Human Aasimar rules and play that as an Aasimar?
It's actually a really good mechanical fit for my class choice.

>>52447187
Kek you are autistic as FUCK

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>>52447034
> cha based catfolk inquisitors
It's not as bad as what they've done to kitsune.


>>52446865
> So why does any of you even play
4th doesn't exist, 5e is too gimmicky, and PF (corebook itself) is an improvement over 3.5

Hence PF rules and 3.5/homebrew/3PP classes. Spheres of Power are quite good, for example. Spheres of Might - not so much.
Also, a question to everyone: is Path of War better than ToB or not? I tried taking a look, but wasn't impressed.

>>52447116
Having claw blades does not excuse everything else. I suppose Catfolk do make good Decisions, at least. Maybe I could give that new swashadin a try?
I wish the claw blades had gotten more support overall. I also wish rogues weren't shit, so maybe I just have shit taste.

>>52447087
Sorry to break it to you, but there's no salt here. I don't apply to obviously shit games, so I didn't really care about either dragon games.

>>52447187

I know that feel.

Playing an actual person when others are playing family-free orphan loners is rough. You always feel like a ham.

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>>52447187

>mfw Dragon 2 are innawoods while Celisse is the adorable Disney princess of Taldor with Faceless Anime Husband

>>52447226
>Do make good decisions
>I KNOW I typed paladin

The fug

>>52447227
really because you seem might booty mothered.

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Alright anons, name one Paizo splatbook that was consistently good enough for you to consider buying, had you the money for it.
Hard Mode: No WMH
Dante Must Die: The book must be from 2015 or earlier.

>>52447245
booty bothered, fug

>>52447245

TFW NO BOOTY MOMMY GF D:

>>52447224
Wait, what did they do to Kitsune that's worse?

>>52447245
>>52447248
Go back to tumblr if you're so triggered by someone with a different opinion that you have to call voicing that opinion being 'booty bothered'

>>52447253
don't you start

>>52447266
Catfolk aren't a real trope. Kitsune are. They are foxes (four legs and a tail) that can turn human. Furries of Paizo made them into hybrid fox humanoids. Which is retarded in the extreme.

>>52447284
Fuck off to reddit if you don't realize that booty bothered is literally chanspeak

>tfw you were gonna make a character for Estervale, just to find out it was deleted like the bamboozle it was

>>52447247
inner sea faiths

>>52447247
>Alright anons, name one Paizo splatbook that was consistently good enough for you to consider buying, had you the money for it.

Land of the Linnorm Kings Campaign Book.

>>52447247
whatever it was that had the harrow deck attached to it

harrow deck is great

>>52447303
>Fuck off to reddit
Says the guy accusing people of being salty because they don't like his game

>>52447351
You seem salty that other people are in a game they're enjoying, its completely irrational.

So yeah, I'm not sure why you're so triggered

You're literally going 'HOW DARE PEOPLE LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE'

And the response is for you to fuck off then

>>52447366
i know /pfg/ is sometimes higher quality than you'd expect but please try to remember what site we're on

>>52447224
>Also, a question to everyone: is Path of War better than ToB or not? I tried taking a look, but wasn't impressed.

There's more combat styles supported (like Ranged), and it looks like they fixed the really stupid stuff like IHS and WRT, at least.

>>52447300
>here is the thing that hasn't changed since the race came out

Aaaaand? I agree that is some bullshit, but mechanically the race is good. That is what was being bitched about. Kitsune are just BETTER mechanically most of the time, save for certain niches cases, like Paladin or a pouncing TWF Slayer.

>>52447224
>Also, a question to everyone: is Path of War better than ToB or not? I tried taking a look, but wasn't impressed.
It's a big improvement overall. Way less abuseable, generally more balanced, focus on cool shit rather than BIG NUMBERS, etc. It gives you narrative power in combat like you wouldn't believe, but not because you can slaughter anything without taking damage. You get to do shit like save an NPC that was meant to die for certain, rally troops that were meant to lose morale and run, etc. ToB was far more about "I AM SO FUCKING STRONG AAAAAAAA"

>>52447253

Most female PCs with decent STR scores have good booties, it's a consequence of working out.

That said, it's possible to have too much booty, or the wrong kind of booty, so it does depend a lot on the type of physique your character has built over the years. Onryou for example has a lot of STR but is built like she's been chiseled by some Galtian artisan, her booty's all rippling and gross. Meanwhile, Aurora has a fine-ass gym bunny physique, so although her STR is identical her booty is bubblicious.

Makes me wonder about the state of the booty for the rest of the SotJR/FotJR cast.

>>52447437
Aurora is also flat! Flat! Flat as a BOARD.

>>52447247
The Alchemy Manual. That book is fucking great.
It was also published in 2014

>>52447325
The DM probably deleted it after everyone shat on it
Also I mean it would've just been a Wizardfest.

>>52446862
Bit of a difference between being an astronaut and being a girl. Someone without training working as an astronaut puts lives in danger - why the hell does it matter so much to you what's in their pants?

>>52447449

Boobs are just chest butts, they're a poor imitation of the genuine article that Aurora has perfected!

>>52447480
then why is she so jealous of them!

>>52447437
Considering the ability scores of FotJR? The nicest butt is Rubio's, as it is all natural

t. Local Expert on posteriors

>>52447479
>Someone without training working as an astronaut puts lives in danger

He's not saying he wants to go work for NASA, he's saying that since he believes he's an Astronaut that society should treat him like an Astronaut.

>>52447498
Who is gonna have the nicest butt in WWW?

>>52447494

The envious flat-chested girl is a staple of anime, and Aurora is pretty fucking anime. More importantly, you can't "work out" your chest to get bigger tits, so they're the one thing she can't get through hard work!

Don't see why she hasn't embraced her S-class booty, as a dragon-girl living in dragon society I assumed she would prefer being fucked from behind, as that is the way dragons typically breed.

>>52447499
There's not a damn university you have to go to to be a woman, is there? Literally all they're asking you to do is change their pronouns and use a different name. Why is that such a big deal for you? It's not like they want to fuck you anyway.

>>52447540
>>52447499
i've always thought that this shit's much like respect
you gotta earn it

go through years of grueling physical and mental challenges and i'll call you a woman
if you truly need that change in your life and you accomplish the arduous journey to get there, i'll play by your rules

but if you put on a skirt and lipstick and demand to be treated like a pretty princess i'll call you a fucking faggot

is this really such an unreasonable stance to have?

>>52447527
can't you just enlarge your tits with magic at like level 1
just get a fucking ring of change appearance: bigger tits for 2500gp

>>52447527
At least she can feel superior to the 7str 7cha 10con rat in the booty respect.

>>52447555
but i am a pretty princess anon.

>>52447540

>Men have to go through a lifetime of labor and work to be considered a "man" by society
>Women just have to exist to be considered a woman

I can see why so many men are eager to become women, especially men from the fringes of society to begin with.

>>52447576
>just get a fucking ring of change appearance: bigger tits for 2500gp

>Spending 2,500 gp for tits that aren't even fake, they're glamered.

IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME.

>>52447578

Decaying corpses probably have better booties than Rinka, that girl is Skaven-tier hideous.

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>>52447606
t-thanks

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>>52447527
Maybe because she wants to hug her partner during, like they do in the Tian sibling love novels she reads.

>>52447409
> Aaaaand? I agree that is some bullshit, but mechanically the race is good. That is what was being bitched about.
What _some_ people are bitching around. I wouldn't have cared if they called it Vulpinal or whatever. Even WotC managed to pull off hengeyokai. But - no. Instead they had to use the name "kitsune" and stick it on some furry mutants.


>>52447400
>>52447432
> It's a big improvement overall. Way less abuseable, generally more balanced, focus on cool shit rather than BIG NUMBERS, etc.
It seemed (when I checked it first time, and seemed now) to be more fiddly - more bonuses to keep track of, etc. That was a deal-breaker at the time, since ToB was around anyway. Now it seems I need to take another look.

> ToB was far more about "I AM SO FUCKING STRONG AAAAAAAA"
I didn't really mind. That's what Fighters are for.

>>52447555
But it's only an arduous journey because you MAKE it one. Why can't it just not be a big deal? They're not hurting you and they're not demanding anything different from you.

>>52447619

But anon, isn't she "hugging" them already?

>>52447638
>But it's only an arduous journey because you MAKE it one
do you understand at all how difficult it is to literally change your gender
just the shit your brain goes through puts a huge toll on you, and then you have to nuke yourself with drugs too
please anon

>>52447479
Not him but -
Identity may indeed be a matter of social construction, but the identity of anything at all is in fact not meaningful to the thing being identified. The identity exists for the benefit of the identifier, not the identified. This is the reasoning behind the concept of 'looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck'. When someone says someone else is a girl, what they mean is that there is a hole at their crotch biologically made for taking a meat rod and delivering children. They are not commenting on their mental state, nor commenting on their personal feelings, because the identity of something is not pertinent to the identified, much like names. They are merely labels that are useful for people to catagorize and identify other people. Now, you might argue that a person always has identity of the self - he idenfities as something. But you see, their identification as something is not in any way higher priority than what others identify them as.

>>52447540
And literally all I ask them to do is ignore it. People like you fail to understand that when I say someone is a He isn't not about what he thinks he is but what I think he is. A Spaniard deluded into believing himself is Brit is not going to be called a Brit by me when he shows me his Spanish passport and birth certificate. That is what identity is, that which others believe you are. Not what you believe you are, nor what you wish you were.

>there's not a damn university
No there isn't, but there's a procedure. In the same way you aren't a professional football player until you're on a professional team, you're not a woman unless you were either born one or made one.

>>52447612

This is the path you chose to walk with those abysmal ability scores.

At least you have explosions!

I want /pol/ to go

>>52447437
We had a decent debate about Valeria's butt last week. The consensus was: she got da booty.

>>52447625
>It seemed (when I checked it first time, and seemed now) to be more fiddly
Oh, it's definitely more fiddly. One of my main complaints with the system, really. Tons of tat to keep track of. But the pros outweigh the cons, I think.

>>52447625
Anon, the furry bullshit had been bitched about endlessly, why bring it up now when the anon was mad about actual mechanics? She individuals refluff anyway, but redoing mechanics is a harder sell.

>>52447667
once i hit around level 6 i am going to nuke fucking everything.

>>52447654
Yes but not like they do in her sibling love novels.

>>52447660
He's saying that the journey should be over as soon as they insist they're a pretty princess.

>>52447660
gender actually refers to what your brain is, sex refers to what's at your dick

>>52447714
that's like saying the journey to becoming a scientist should end after you read the wikipedia article for "physics" and put on a lab coat
fuck right off my man

>>52447673
It's not like it matters, she can cast alter self (or should be able to soon) so she can make herself look however she wants. Even like Casimir's dead wife, if he's into that sort of thing.

>>52447755
>dead wife
Not cool bro. Not cool.

>>52446373
No, but Lysander's is

>>52447512
My character's, of course

>>52447744

Anon, now you're beginning to see why so many people despise tumblr-style saccharine acceptance culture at an almost instinctual level. It's treating people like they're the coolest, most amazing thing in the world for simply existing, or saying a word or two.

>>52447771
>tfw you will never watch Casimir and Sigmund's dead wives scissor

why even live

>>52447512
I think that the doll is a nice candidate for a good butt!

>>52447665
Anon, by that reasoning insults don't exist. Calling someone a shithead doesn't comment on their mental state or personal feelings, it's just something I'm using to identify you!

>>52447837
just play a necromancer and rip their souls out of whatever demiplane they're at, resurrect them into homunculi that look like perfect replicas of what they used to look like, and force them to do it
you lack ambition, anon

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>>52447837

>mfw it really was Sigmund's wife that turned into the tree
>mfw the daughter is still out there
>mfw they reunite
>mfw the daughter is just as willful and headstrong as dad
>mfw she makes Lysander her bitch.

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>>52447860
>good butt
>good rack
It's not fair!

>>52447771
>Not doing whatever it takes to get him stiff

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>>52447860
>>52447879

There ain't nothing plain about this doll!

>>52447555
>i've always thought that this shit's much like respect
>you gotta earn it

Wait...respect for other humans is an earned trait? I thought that was supposed to be the default.

>>52447901
That's why she has the Impossible bloodline!

>>52447900

Valeriya's a beautiful young woman with nimble fingers and a friendly relationship with him, I'm sure she'll do just fine.

>>52447907
basic respect is a given
anything above that is not

if you respect a frycook at wendy's the same amount as a doctor something is wrong with you

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>>52447916
Reminder that Shalelu is a better girl than Valeriya is!

Thaw the elf's heart, not the slut's!

>>52447682
Kitsune aren't kitsune mechanically.

They are humanoinds who have to take feats to turn into foxes, and have to be homeruled to look human.

>>52447907
"You need to earn my respect" is code for "I think you're a lesser being."
>>52447926
Preferred gender is basic respect.

>>52447948
>Preferred gender is basic respect.
Calling you something you're not is not basic respect.

>>52447926

>if you respect a frycook at wendy's the same amount as a doctor something is wrong with you

Sure. They are both human beings so they deserve respect. It's also not like 'Food' is less of a basic human requirement than 'Healthcare'.

>>52447948
>Preferred gender is basic respect.
no it's not, fucker

>>52447973
In fact, in many ways, Food is a MORE basic human requirement

>>52447973
i'm not saying they don't deserve respect
i'm saying the pimply-faced teen gets the base minimum and the wise professor gets more

>>52447991
Non-trans people don't have to earn the right to be called by their gender. It is basic.

>>52447948
>>52447973
No-one DESERVES respect. It's given by choice by the one giving respect.

If someone gets up in my face and starts ranting about their pronouns, they're not getting my respect.

I may choose to give respect to people doing hard jobs, like a poor sod on a telephone centre trying to answer calls, but I'm not going to be obliged to.

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>>52447936

Has Shalelu even shown up in either campaign yet? It feels like she needs to have a really cool introduction!

>>52447997

So you'd give a nurse less respect than a doctor?

>>52447997
>wise professor gets more

Have you *seen* the types of professors they have in Universities now?

>>52447991
>>52448005
As a trans person in this very thread: Can you guys shut up and get back on topic?

We're here to talk pathfinder (and apparently fetishes) and I'd like to get back to that.

>>52447941
Anon, this is so easily houseruled as to be a non-issue for any but the biggest, most unreasonable autists. Yokai is commonly accepted as the standard here and it fixes that problem. You can get Fox Shape at level 1 with an ART if you're trapped in a 1pp hell, meaning you slap your GM until he rules that form is your true form and that all Kitsune must have the ART, and then be done with it.

Kitsune, outside of that one houserule-fixable quirk, are mechanically sound and versatile. A little weaker than tieflings, but not by much.

>>52448005
Being called by your sex has nothing to do with respect.

>>52448006
Everyone deserves a level of respect. They may earn more or lose some but to say you start with none is absurd.

>>52448005
yes anon being called by what you are is a good thing
if you want to be called something else you must become that thing
you don't get to call yourself Big Dick Steve if you have a 4 inch pecker same way you don't get to call yourself Jenny with that thing down there either

>>52448019
But anon, someone is being /wrong/ on the internet!

I just want headpats

>>52448013
depends on the circumstances
at a base level with no knowledge of the situation, i think i would
if it turns out the doctor is a pedophile and the nurse works unpaid overtime out of the goodness of her heart, then it would change, obviously

>>52448043
Then they can trade usernames on Skype or whatever and hash it out there. This isn't the place for it.

>>52448019
This thread's already burning. Let's just make a new thread and leave this one to the /pol/tards and celebrity game fetishists.

>>52448005
>Non-trans
You mean normal?
Whether it's mental or biological, either way trans people have a defect, considering the highly increased suicide rates, effectively 0 biological fitness rate, etc, transgenderism fits all the parameters for being a disease.
I call males he and females she because that's what they are. I don't care about what someone thinks they are. I care about what they are.

>>52448018
that's why i said wise, anon

>>52448045

I'll give you a headpat!

>>52448051

>at a base level with no knowledge of the situation, i think i would

Technically, someone can have a doctorate in nursing. They are two different medical degrees, not 'Lesser Doctor'.

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>>52447879
You might say

ITS IMPOSSIBLE

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>>52447936

I'm not sure Shalelu is better, she's a sociopathic hate-elf with a lust for gratuitous goblin murder.

>>52448013
You do it too, it's human nature to give deference to those in authority over their subordinates, the difference is that >>52447997 is self aware enough to recognize it and self assured enough to talk about it freely.

>>52448030
No. In a vacuum, there's no such thing as respect. If you're on your own, there's no-one to give you respect.

Respect is something given for things that are respectable, and that is something given as judgement by others.

Simply surviving is worth a smidgen of respect, depending on what someone's been through. Having a gender? That's not worth shit.

This doesn't mean I'd actively disrespect people, but that doesn't mean I have to actively salute "thos fien ladybois who wear them thar thongs round their feminine pensises and call themselves women you transphobic h8rs"

Imagine you have reach from retributive reach and you try to trip without having the feat, do the target of this maneuver have option to AoO?

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>>52448093
>>52448086
Fuck off /pol/

>>52448093
>If you're on your own, there's no-one to give you respect.
Then what's self-respect?

>>52448082
Which is hilarious since one of my RotJR player is a goblin

>>52448099
a fabrication of your mind to make yourself feel better

>>52448099
Something that's not going to matter much if there's no-one to see it. Feel free to not shave and eat a bucket of icecream if you want.

>>52448086

>it's human nature to give deference to those in authority over their subordinates

Have you actually been in a hospital ward? Nurses are not just the minions of doctors. They serve an entirely different purpose and in the area of long-term care doctors will often defer to the judgement of nurses.

>>52448008
>SotJR busts open the door
>Finds Shalelu being gangraped by goblins
Seems like a regular way to introduce her

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>>52447936
>>52448008
>mfw I had an idea for a connection to Shalelu
>mfw I didn't flesh it out because I already had something else set up
>mfw I never got around to doing any writeups of what the PC thinks of various NPCs because I'm a lazy fuck and "hah, who would want to read a page or two of autistic rambling"
>mfw all this wasted potential

I could have had something cool, gone for something unique, but instead I squandered it because of some no-ass tian chick hogging the spotlight.

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>>52448120
>>52448113
>>52448112
>>52448099
No seriously. Fuck off.

How the fuck did we get on this discussion?

>>52448120
Perception is also important. Even if the king's the figurehead of the cabal, if the cabal isn't known about the king's going to get more respect than the cabal.

>>52448150
Idiots.

>>52448150
/pol/

How many of your characters have died?

>>52448145

Hey now, Ameiko's got an ass!

>>52448126

Wouldn't be goblins, they don't find humanoids attractive at all. It'd have to be Orik and that wizard chick, if anyone.

>>52448175
All of them are lost forever in the ether, anon.
It hurts so much.

>>52448175
uhh..

Just one actually.

>>52448147
Dude, we've gone from transgenderism into a discussion of the matter of respect and perception of authority. While the tangent was briefly /pol/ it's moving onto interesting new ground. As long as it doesn't actively sway back INTO /pol/ stuff through people screeching about it might actually produce interesting discussion.

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>>52448188
You know what that discussion isn't

Anything to do with /tg/, let alone /pfg/

So fuck off.

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>>52448181
>Orik

NNNNNO

NOT MY ORIK

>>52448175

My half-giant fighter in a Kingmaker game died several times.

I wish he stayed dead, but they kept bringing him back.

>>52447247
Magical Marketplace

>>52448212
you know the person being rezzed can just choose not to come back
just be like "you know it's pretty cool up here i just get drunk with all these war heroes perpetually i think i'll stay"

>>52448022
> Anon, this is so easily houseruled as to be a non-issue for any but the biggest, most unreasonable autists.
So are catfolk.

Also, not an argument. Anything could be houseruled. The problem is that it has to be houseruled and people informed that "our kitsune are different".


>>52448188
> interesting new ground
No.

>>52448224

It would've been good to know this when I was in that game!

>>52448211
What do you think Orik will be in RotJR? Myrmidon with Iron Tortoise and Mithral Current?

>>52448181
>Ameiko's got an ass!
Just ask the gnoll!

>wouldn't be goblins
Unless the RotJR DM makes an exception. Maybe all the NPCs can end up monster pregnant for extra difficulties on the journey.

>>52448240
Sounds about right. In my RotJR, Orik actually ended up being one of the choices the party could get as a Caravan guard.

>>52448240

I think he'll be a simple Diplomacy check.

The guy's one of the most genre-savvy characters in the system, he's not going to throw his life away for some half-mad tart in the basement when he's facing a bunch of decked out badasses with glowing PC tattoos.

And then he goes back to Sandpoint as an NPC the players can employ or woo!

>>52448237
it says that stuff right on the spell, anon
how did you even miss that

>>52448270
>how did you even miss that

I was playing a half-giant fighter with a bastard sword, take a wild guess.

>>52448175
Two, though if you want to get technical only one, because a homunculus is in fact a companion creature.

>>52448225
>catfolk
>easily houseruled

There's nothing there to serve as a basis for houserule, though. The only thing you're houseruling about kitsune is the fluff, because the mechanics to make them not be shitty are right there. The closest thing catfolk have would be the stuff from Bloodforge Infusions, which falls under the 3pp umbrella.

>>52448266
That sounds neat! Hopefully he stopped being never lucky!
>>52448269
Sure, but if the PCs decide to be right bastards FotJR said "No survivors." then he needs to have stats.

Do you think Orik would beg for his life?

I'm a little dissapointed that the Aasimar are rarely shown to look as weird as a well designed tiefling.
It's not like angels weren't some scary sons of bitches in all 3 of the Abrahamic holy books.

>>52448311
Orik totally would beg for his life.

He actually just throw his weapon down and surrenders once beaten up, ready to give you what he was paid

>>52448311
He ends up being the butt of many situations, but I end up being sad for him more and more, so I throw him a bone occasionally.

>>52445158
sauce?

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>>52448318
Sure none of them are as tentaclefacey as a qlippoth-spawn, but they are kinda weird sometimes.

>>52448311

Orik would totally beg for his life.

I mean, consider the circumstances of him being there; he's just some random schmuck that was hired on to work with an ugly black wizard chick and some creepy goblin vermin by a lovely young Aasimar who's got the crazy eyes and spends her nights getting fucked by a pair of hellhounds right next to his room.

Do you think there's anything about that situation he should take pride in?

>>52448318
Angels are only one type of good outsiders and they are not even that strange as portrayed in Bestiaries. I've seen some random tables with interesting traits for aasimars, though.

In your mind, what would be the ideal "final campaign" for the pathfinder setting?
And I'm talking an end campaign. The last chapter. Right after you finish it, the credits start rolling. What do you think the campaign to end all pathfinder campaigns would be?

>>52448448
>What do you think the campaign to end all pathfinder campaigns would be?

Rovagug is let loose from his cage and the final battle destroys the pantheon and Golarion itself.

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>>52448417
>>52448318

>>52448302
> The only thing you're houseruling about kitsune is the fluff
1) Change creature type.
2) Change "change shape" ability.
3) Change size, bonuses, natural attacks, movement, ability bonuses, etc. to make "base creature" to be tiny fox, rather than medium/small humanoid.

Okay. That is known as "trolling".

>>52448463

>Garuda-blooded Aasimar have feathers for hair

DOWNY
FEATHER
PUBES

>>52448448
It would involve Rovagug in some way, and Norgorber as well I feel.

Maybe something about the Beer Hall Putsch

>>52448437

>This shield is heavy
>The goblins smell
>Why is that sorceress always giving me the stink eye?
>Nualia's kind of a bitch
>Her hounds are treating her like one too, that's really weird
>I wish I was in Sandpoint, having a bowl of curry shrimp

>>52448448
You fight the DM himself.

>>52448481
no

>>52448417
>>52448463
Now you just try to tell me that these two guys kicking back at a tavern trying to look like normal guys, just leaning back in their chairs with frothy mugs in their hand, wouldn't look terribly weird and out of place.

Your typical, uneducated commoner might even think they're actually full-blooded outsiders. "I swear on me mum, Fred, there was an angel in the Raging Linnorm just kicking back the drinks! And he must a' been one of Cayden's, because he was sure knockin' em back like they were nothin!"

>>52448448
Your characters have to travel from Golarion to Earth to find a strange temple called "Paizo Aech-Kue" where Aroden, who had never actually died but in fact been imprisoned, is held. Terrifying outsiders have besieged the temple, however, because they all seek to prevent Aroden's return.

>>52448515
>Your typical, uneducated commoner might even think they're actually full-blooded outsiders.
Of course he would. Your typical commoner might have Knowledge (Local) but there's no way he'll have the Knowledge (Planes) he'd need to identify them, unless you're in Tianjing.

>>52448488
>My feet hurt

>>52448515
>Now you just try to tell me that these two guys kicking back at a tavern trying to look like normal guys, just leaning back in their chairs with frothy mugs in their hand, wouldn't look terribly weird and out of place.

I never said anything of the sort!

>>52448550
The final boss is Ya Mes Yakubs. If you're a paladin you can't fight him, you're not allowed at his table.

>>52448569
that shit triggers me so hard

>>52448569
>It's basically a Gurren Lagann finale fight
>"Why can't you understand the pathetic limitations of the Martial classes?!"

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>>52448468

Well, yeah. What else would a magic fox do all day?

>>52448569

>The hidden condition to win his encounter without initiative is for the most attractive female PC to use diplomacy on him

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>>52448591

>>52448448
A genius planar scientist proves that the Abyss is truly infinite in it's depth. However, despite that fact, that same researcher finds something that shouldn't be. What he finds is Sheol, the final layer of the Abyss.
Within Sheol lies the 10 first Qlippoth, said to be the first things to ever live, and born from a speck of primal filth. Awakened by the scientist's intrusion, they put their unholy powers together and break Rovagug from its prison.
Instead of take revenge on the gods, Rovagug instead frees the 10 Qlippoth from Sheol, who promptly tear it apart and feast on it's flesh.

A wave of Qlippoth unlike anything ever seen descends on the planes, and put of desperation all the worlds ally with each other. Demons work with angels, daemons fight alongside archons, and the whole of the universe unites simply to survive.
The only thing that would be able to cease the Qlippoth from devouring and regurgitating reality is to kill the 10 originators. Are you a bad enough dude to do it?

>>52448608
And then you have 3 different endings, Destruction, Control and Synthesis? :^)

>>52448636

Indeed, and you fight a cyborg Tien ninja who is destined to defeat you in every encounter you challenge him in, except the last one.

Years later, Paizo will release a *new* AP in a system that supposedly ended with The Final Chapter where you play a band of Chaotic Neutral alt-men and alt-girls journeying to a new world where Halo wants to beat you up.

>>52448608
>>52448636
>>52448657
it hurts

>>52448662

It's okay, you'd be shocked at the number of people who think Mass Effect is a franchise still worthy of respect, Bioware is a company that deserves your money, and Andromeda is actually an incredible game "the haters" only hate because they haven't bought the $60 game and tried it for themselves.

It's okay! Just wait a year and you'll see the hate die down! They only hate it because they aren't playing it!

Woah, this ties into the previous discussion too. This is a perfect example of a company that should deserve respect isn't getting respect because they're full of bullshit.

>>52448694
What if I think things are just ok and i'm ok with that

I just want to be comfy.

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>>52448468
>implying this is at all complicated
>"the mechanics are right there, use them" is trolling

The fuck are you on about. The mechanics are right there for you to use. Your only valid point is creature type, but that's such a minor detail as to be a non-issue at this point.

What is your malfunction, anon.

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>>52448694

>>52448705

There are better ways to be comfy, cheaper too.

You shouldn't be paying $60 for an experience that is just "okay."

>>52448717
man why do you care what i spend my money on

if i enjoy it why does it matter

>>52448694
I mean the thing is that just because something is infinitely deep doesn't necessarily mean there can't be a 'last layer'.

>>52448754
Meant for >>52448608

What's the naming scheme for Rostlanders?

>>52448781
Title-First name-possible nickname--Family name-possibly second family name

>>52448781
1) Take a Slavic name
2) Misspell it based on phonetics
3) Add the suffix "-poop" to the end

For surnames, take your favorite word and spell it backwards.

>>52448807
Any real world analogue? I hear polish every once and a while.

>>52448751
We just want you to be more comfy! Do you need anything else? We can make recommendations!

>>52448781

They're Polish and pretty regimented in regards to social class, so you'd expect [Title] [First name] [Last name] [Honorific]. Women take the name of their husbands.

>>52448830

Yeah, the Rostlands is unabashedly Slavic with a distinct tilt towards Polish, while Issia is more tilted to Lithuanian.

An example of a full-name would be Stanislaw Restovski.

>>52448830
Slavic, more or less. Refer to non-Russians mostly, since that is taken by Irrisen's natives

>>52448855
>since that is taken by Irrisen's natives

Not exactly! Irrisen is Fairy Tale Russia inhabited by all the horror and whimsy that comes from classic Russian stories.

Right next door to Brevoy is Iobaria, which is brutal post-plague, post-Golden Horde Muscovy with a heavy dose of STALKER-tier post-apocalypse. They're also Russian.

>>52448694
Will Bioware ever recover from this debacle? ME:A was basically their last chance to recover from ME III, and to make it worse, the AAA titan studio with a 10 year development time and 150 staff released it right next to Yoko Taro's 10 man staff shoestring budget game.

>>52448831
i am ok at my current comfy level

>>52448891

I hope not, I hope they go the way of Westwood and release a wet, smelly fart of a dating simulator before finally getting subsumed by EA.

>>52448904

But are your legs okay?

>>52448891
Have you actually played the game or just watched gifs on /v/ of some bad animations

honest question

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>>52448904

If you're certain.

>>52448890
Well let me put it this way:

Irrisen is the Russia in it's civilized form during the 13th-16th century

Iobaria is the Soviet Union without communism if the Mongol horde came through every few decades.

>>52448927
i am certain

>>52447876
Lysander is the party bicycle!

>>52448913
NieR or ME:A?
I'm not really talking about how I personally view either game anyway, just the actual public reception.

>>52447926
Doctors are always assholes. Some fry cooks are kinda nice.

>>52448848
Does everyone in Restov have a title?

My idea was to have a Half-elf with the sword scion trait. He'd want to become a sword lord, but feels the need to prove himself in more than just dueling, maybe because of his heritage. He'd likely not know who his elven father is, and is mal-adjusted to life from not growing up with a father.

3 days left for Legacy and maybe less than 10 apps are actually complete! What are you waiting for anon? 50/50 chance!

>>52448956
Does it matter

Honestly this whole ME:A thing reminds me of Battleborn, which is a pretty good game that just got smoked by awful PR and a shit release date.

>>52448913

I can tell Automata is an excellent game just by watching the occasional clip. I can tell The Witcher 3 is a great game just by watching the occasional clip.

Why is it suddenly loud, angry screaming that I'm just an idiot who doesn't know any better when I say Andromeda is shit based on the occasional clip?

>>52448437
>ugly black wizard chick
That Orik wants to bang.

>>52448911
>Westwood and release a wet, smelly fart of a dating simulator before finally getting subsumed by EA.
What game are you talking about?

/v/ please go

I preferred having /pol/

>>52448437
>>52448992
Isn't the black wizard chick actually pretty cute in her art, it's just that her personality is that of a raging psychotic bitch?

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>>52448978
>does it matter
In terms of the commercial future of Bioware? I'm not sure anything matters more. It's not like pic related where it's about shutting down discussion, I'm just talking about the general reception i.e. the loss of public credit among the "gaming community" suffered by Bioware after this.

>>52449011
New thread imminent anyway, just let them talk.

>>52448448
Rovagug and Sarenrae die, Punished Iomedae becomes the new Sun Goddess

>>52448995

Westwood's last game before getting really consumed by EA was a half-assed shadow of an RTS that sloppily tied up the Command and Conquer series.

Bioware has gone from "titan of the industry" to being known primarily for how extensive their romance dating simulators are.

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>>52448988
i don't think i can tell anything about a game from a gif or a short clip, gotta get hands on and play it awhile

But whatevs, i'll keep enjoying myself

>>52449018
Bioware lost its credibility after ME3, if you're just now 'losing faith' in the company i question your sanity.

>>52448978

>Battleborn
>Pretty good game

Yes! Yes! It's not the game's fault, they're blameless!