/5eg/ Fifth Edition General: Ireena Kolyana edition

>>52417649
Only thing we've used is revised ranger, then again the campaign I'm running is a longer one and the party tends too look out for their own hide first.

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A player in my group is using Hexblade warlock. It sometimes happens where he'll curse a target, and then go to 0 HP before that target dies, and then another party member kills that cursed target. In this situation would he still gain the HP and come back from his death saving throws? The spell doesn't mention anything about it falling off if the warlock dies, only the 1 minute timer.

>>52417649
I have a revised ranger in my game, a deep stalker.

Had to adjust his first turn bullshit though, he was trivializing encounters.

I made it so that instead of always getting an extra attack and advantage on those who haven't moved on the first turn of combat, it's now a once per short rest ability that grants him the same thing, but can be activated on any turn.

>>52417874

Yup. No concentration is mentioned. He heals and gets back up

>>52417874
RAW, yes, it works even if the caster is unconscious.

RAI, hard to say. It would probably have been concentration if they didn't want that to happen.

>>52417874
It's be your call at that point, are you treating it like a pseudo concentration spell? Then no because he is unconscious, if not then I don't see why he wouldn't get the health.

What is the dumbest character concept you can come up with /5eg/?

>>52417963
Fighter 20

>>52417915
Personally I'd change it to once per combat but I can see where you're coming from.

>>52417963
Half orc wizard, dump stat int.

>>52418016
>not full orc

>>52417963
Orc Wizard would be up there. Might have been funny the first time someone made one but now it's a tired joke that's just stupid.

>>52417917
>>52417954
>>52417957
That's kind of a neat concept. Anyone know if there's a homebrew or something out there for a class that functions kind of like a necromancer, but instead of raising other dead corpses he raises himself? Or maybe some of his abilities are only triggered by hitting 0 HP, and he has some sort of mechanism for bringing himself back? It would have to be a high risk/reward if his goal is be near death.

>>52418016
>>52418030
I'd actually like to change my answer to play valor bard and act like a paladin instead of using the new UA

1. How do you feel about third-party, homebrewed, or generally nonofficial adventure paths?

2. Have you ever used one?

3. Did you like it, would you recommend it, etc etc?

>>52417963
Oath of treachery fallen aasimar. CRAWWWWWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIN

>>52418053
Could make something that gives him a boost to stats or a chunk of temp HP, fail a con saving throw and gain two levels of exhaustion succeed and gain only one. Have it proc when he is either hit and would be knocked out, or at a certain % of HP.

>>52418053
Shadow Sorcerer

http://www.strawpoll.me/12622026
http://www.strawpoll.me/12622028
http://www.strawpoll.me/12622029

Polls for each of the archetypes in the latest UA.

>>52418053

Undying Warlocks, Long Death Monks.

>it's not the players turn
>or "scene"
>afk on phone constantly
>his turn "on what happened?"
>"you don't know, you spaced out"
>bitchfit
>whines that one player stole dragon treasure and now they must fight it
>goes on for a good minute about how they don't stand a chance
>give him frightened status
>whines

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Is it a good or bad idea to make an Orzhov themed Warlock, either sworn to a Vampire or the Ghost Council themselves? What's a good reason for him to adventure?

>>52418265

tell him not to show up if he doesn't have any intention of actually playing

>>52418265
The frightened status is a bit much, but the first part is the only good way to handle that.

Don't know if anyone here cares. That planescape timer people were getting worked up about being a D&D product's just the Enhanced Edition of the game.

>>52418418

What?

>>52418461
There was a timer website with a countdown a while back. Had Planescape on it.

People were getting excited saying it's a 5e planescape product but thankfully it's not.

>>52418099
Any homebrew adventure doesn't feel homebrew. That's what D&D is supposed to be like, creative your own adventures.

One that you buy in the form of a book is just a little more fleshed out and detailed than one you cobbled together in your scrapbook.

>>52418479
>Perfect opportunity to unite video game and traditional games together
>Create companion book about all the outer and inner planes, their environment and all the creatures that live there, alongside enhanced release of Planescape using 5e mechanics
>Lol no here's your 1080p graphic version ya nub

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>>52418418
Oh boy, I'm so excited. Remember enhanced edition of Baldur's Gate?

>>52418559
>I have to be going now

>>52418555
>Create companion book about all the outer and inner planes, their environment and all the creatures that live there
After the SCAG I honestly don't have high hopes for setting material this edition. Maybe it was just the fact the very first book we got was set in the worst setting, in the worst part of it only but it wasn't that great. Volo's is good, but that's just monsters.

>>52418559
To be fair if you don't play the terrible DLC or touch the new companions, the Enhanced Edition was good. Beamdog can't write for shit but they did fix the gameplay up a bit.

>>52418555
>D&D videogame
>Good

There hasn't been one that has come close to being worth it in recent years.

>>52418559
>What can change the gender of man?

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Reminder: http://vocaroo.com/i/s08JaT5DRJ0Q

>>52418559
In Sigil that'd be barely noticeable.

If your companions include a man eternally on fire, a talking skull, a chaste succubus, and a cube that talks to his crossbows, then that shit's not going to be important, it'd be, what, a 50gp sphere in the public sensatorium?

>>52418698
Other than re-releases, I'd say Neverwinter Nights 2 was the last good one.

>>52418559
Remember how that is a single character that you have to purposely follow a dialogue tree to learn that single detail about, only after asking her?

It's not like she comes right out and says "HI GUYS I USED TO BE A GUY BUT NOW I'M NOT A GUY I'M A GIRL." It's actually the opposite - you have to pester her. By telling her that her name sounds weird, apropos nothing, despite the fact that CHARNAME's come across way weirder. And even then she's polite about it.

TL;DR - this, children, is what we call making a mountain out of a molehill.

>>52418698
What year was Neverwinter Nights 2 released? That was the last good one as far as I care.

If they made something like that with 5e rules I'd buy it in a second.

>>52418741
That actual thing is small as hell but the DLC is shit. Writing's terrible and the level design is weird compared to the original games.

>>52418745
http://store.steampowered.com/app/325600/

Spoiler: It sucks

>>52418724
>Implying they'll make any effort to make it believable

>>52418770
Eh, I enjoyed it, if for nothing else that it somehow managed to get me to care about Skie, of all characters.

Damnit, I want something in BGII or a BGIII or something that can resolve that Skie subplot.

>>52418777
Is it Sword Coast Legends? I'm not even going to click that link.

See they fucked it up there because they made D&D: Diablo Edition, not D&D 5e the game.

>>52418741
>It's not like she comes right out and says "HI GUYS I USED TO BE A GUY BUT NOW I'M NOT A GUY I'M A GIRL."
Actually, that's exactly how it was. That's why both sides rightfully raised a shitfest, causing the character's dialogue to be rewritten.

It's really sad to see people who can't move on

LMoP

Party has spent..... two months, ingame and out doing side quests and other things.

They are level 7, started at 1

They just killed venomfang, now an adult dragon, and searching neverwinter forest for cragmaw castle

I've introduced the lords alliance as a kind of military arm of neverwinter, and a small group of knights searching for sildar and unraveling the black spider.

My question is, should the knights have already been to cragmaw and saved the dwarf - or should I have the dwarf die?

I'm thinking of making the lords alliance antagonistic but good rivals for the party, to be flabbergasted that there are other forces of good.

>>52418805
Yea, I understand if you don't want to contaminate your browser history with that shit.

man, I dunno. Is D&D even in a healthy spot anymore?

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>>52418703
>If there is anything I have learned in my travels across the Planes, it is that many things may change the nature of a man. Whether regret, or love, or revenge or fear - whatever you believe can change the nature of a man, can. I’ve seen belief move cities, make men stave off death, and turn an evil hag's heart half-circle. This entire Fortress has been constructed from belief. Belief damned a woman, whose heart clung to the hope that another loved her when he did not. Once, it made a man seek immortality and achieve it. And it has made a posturing spirit think it is something more than a part of me.

>>52418813
>causing the character's dialogue to be rewritten.

1) I hadn't heard of that and would like a sauce please;
2) Even if that's the case, that still leaves us with the official release of the game having the current dialogue, where you have to pester Mizhena.

I don't judge Back to the Future on the fact that the secret to time travel was originally supposed to be the formula for Coca-cola, I judge it based on the finished product that we actually got.

>>52418815
You're on the wrong website if you can't be anal about some bullshit that doesn't belong in this thread at all and doesn't matter.

>>52418804
There will never be a BGIII that will decent, I'm sorry.

>>52418851
I like to think it could be because 5e is actually a good system, if a little bit bland. If they make one original setting that gets even half decent reviews and I'll say it's going the right way.

>>52418418
Oh boy! Now maybe we can get our hands on the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum.

>>52418895
I don't know if we're talking about the same thing

>>52418938
hi druid

>>52419026
Who?

My player's are doing Death House and decided to take the 4 sets of Plate Armour in one of the rooms. Will it unbalance anything if I let them take those?

>>52419069
Things taken from Death's House usually crumble after being taken out of it.

>>52419069

Probably make their lives easier, but not break. I'd force them to hunt someone to fit it to their size. Armor isn't one size fits all.

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>>52419069

>go into enchanted woods with a simple goal
>capture the kitsune loli and bring her back alive
>try charming her out first
>forget that kitsunes are natural charmers
>wake up to find the bard half naked and wearing lipstick
>all right, trap time
>we do a pit trap
>easy enough
>just dig a hole
>lay something thin overtop to conceal
>and bait with juicy meal
>she vineswings over it and grabs the food
>it was our best meat, too
>gloves off time
>we chase her up a tree
>give her an ultimatum
>tree says hold the fuck up
>god damn it, enchanted woods
>have to play a riddle game while the kitsune laughs her ass off up in the branches
>bard gets impatient
>bard gets tackled by dryads
>rogue absconds
>I swear to plant 30 trees in return for not dying
>loli is poof
>fuck's sake
>find her playing in the river running through the woods
>rogue wants to kill her
>ooooh so tempting
>no, sneaky navy seal time
>we go under, sneak to where she is, and burst out of the eater
>all four of us
>except there were only three of us
>one of is a very angry, very large catfish
>a catfish with a boston accent that curses like a sailor
>our GM sometimes, goddamn
>we get about halfway shitslapped by a fish
>somehow actually manage to grab the girl in the midst of this
>bundle and get like the gettin' s good
>except we didn't bundle her mouth tight enough
>she says treasure
>rogue, greediest bastard since someone invented a bank, is all ears
>runs off with her to a giant beehive
>find him partially cocooned in honey a few hours later, kitsune taunting is from atop a tree
>god fucking damn it

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>>52419069

>>52419141
You have to go back.
>>52417881

>>52419107
>>52419123
>>52419139
>>52419154
I was just fucking around, also it's good to see someone use the screencap I made.

Would giving all martial classes (Rouge, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger and Monk) a free feat at first level bridge the gap between them and Casters?

What if it's a small selection of feats? Maybe further restricted for the 1/2 casters.

I'd say the good options would be Martial Adept, Skilled, Any of the Armored feats, Heavy Armor Master, and Crossbow Expert.

Any others? I'd never allow powergamer feats at this level, like Lucky (I hate that feat so much) or Alert.

>>52419200
stop

>>52419200
You fundemantally misunderstand the problem, so it's best that you don't do anything.

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>>52419200
Stop dabbling in the matters beyond your understanding.

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>okay guys, let's see what you rolled up

>this is bob, my paladin. he's a variant human with polearm mastery, and I took tunnel fighter as my fighting style

>my character is geoff, a variant human tunnel-fighter fighter. he fights with a polearm.

>i rolled a revised ranger, since you said some unearthed arcana was ok. his name is frank, and he fights with a polearm. i used my level one feat to get polearm mastery, and i'm thinking of taking tunnel fighter

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I've posted on last thread, but I've remade the Codex with most of the Unearthed Arcanas.
Wizard Revisited and Mystic Class with most stuff from the UAs.

>>52419200
No, but monk needs to use either Rogue or Fighter ASI's.

>>52418741
The better question is, how is her name weird at all in comparison to any of the others?

Imoen... I moan? Jaheira, kinda like Shakira? A man named Minsc, with a hamster named Boo? Viconia? Edwin Odesseiron? Khalid? Dynaheir? Xzar?

I'm just saying.

>>52419230
>>52419228
>>52419253
Personally I don't see a problem at all, but solutions to this "problem" seem to get a lot of traction around here.

If the issue is 6th level + spells, then give the feat then, around level 12, easy.

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>party getting unnerved and frustrated with me for executing all of the goblins and shit the bard puts to sleep

>>52417963
"Crazy" Moe Kazoblyakowitz the paladin

he was a homeless man and instead of platemail i asked the dm if i could refluff it so he was wearing a trashcan with a hole cut out the bottom for his head to fit through, and used a broken bottle for my greatsword

>>52419268
yea
we know
you want a hug or something...?

>>52419298
No need to be an ass

I will soon play TftYP. This is how our party looks so far:
>Me as a Half-Orc Stone Sorcerer
>A Goblin Knight who goes Str instead of Dex
>A Mystic who focuses on supporting the party
>Last player hasn't said what he wants to play yet, but its something supportive

How will it go? I'm kinda uncertain because we have no Dex character who could disarm traps or open locks.

>>52419286
You're not smarter than the devs
Just play the fucking game

>>52419317
Proooobably not too well. Two support characters?

>>52419320
These are the same devs who made Mystic and Loremaster, right?

>>52419341
Just think how dumb that makes you.

>>52419341
Those are just UA
Do you need a cat scan?

>>52419355
Ouch.

>>52419337
Yeah, the last person could be anything. Cleric or Bard wouldn't be so bad though.

But at least Stone Sorcerer and Knight have some neat synnergy

>>52417649
Healer monk, stone sorc and revised ranger will be in my campaign, so far we've just finished session 0. I've established with everyone that that details can and will be changed after discussing with player but have no plans beyond probably limiting primeval awareness to Divine Sense frequency.

>>52418033
>>52418016
The saddest part about orc wizard for me is that a mountain dwarf plays the same concept so much better.

>>52419341
Insulting remark about your intelligence so I fit in.

>>52419272
This. Personally, I add purity of body a level earlier, and drop the extra ASI at level 10.

>>52418559
Go back to pol.

>>52419432
What's the difference?

>>52419432
Fuck off to tumblr.

>>52419272
what is ASI

>>52419459
>>52419432
Get back to fucking.

>>52419462
you dumb motherfucker

Since WotC apparently hates monks what's a better alternative to the drunken master than what they gave us?

it's still better than 4 elements though, I guess

>>52419480
play something else you weeb

>>52419480
>Since WotC apparently hates monks what's a better alternative to the drunken master than what they gave us?
Another edition. Another game.

>>52419496
I don't want no trouble

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>>52419478

>>52419462
I'm pretty sure it's short for ability score improvement but no guarantee

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>>52419509
well you found it, buddy

>>52419532
I ain't your buddy, pal.

>>52418821
They have taken too long. Everyone's dead.

What's your opinion on druids /5eg/

>>52419200
There's no gap between martials and casters, they fill completely different roles in a party. Balance issues come from gaps between the different martial classes and between the different caster classes.
Example: Sorcerers are just wizards but without all the archetypes and a pitiful number of spells.
Fighters rely on short rests to compete with other martial classes and many groups never take short rests.
Paladins are fucking gods.
The feats like PAM/GWM/SM/SS/CE are all so good that a martial player who takes them is likely to make a martial player who didn't look like an invalid.
The only issue I have between a martial and a caster right now is that Bards are clearly superior skill monkeys to Rogues, which leaves the Rogue's specialty as just being a low damage skirmisher.

>>52419532
I now have the idea of a Canadian Tranquility Monk who "Just don't want no trouble, friend" but always manages to start fights.

I'm gonna play it when I go see my friends in Canada next.

>>52419583
I like em. I especially like their access to elemental spells.

Wish there was a class that got access to their spell list without wildshape though. Certain archetypes I'd like to play but turning into a lizard just doesn't fit.

Anons? Quick question: in 3.5, there were at least two different variants of Flesh to Stone that I'm aware of: Flesh to Ice in the Frostburn supplement, and Curse of Spilt Water (turns a victim into water - and technically it's a Disintegrate variant, I guess) in Dragon Magazine #334.

In 5e, would you bother making these seperate spells, or would you just make it a houserule that Flesh to Stone can instead change the victim's corpse into any inert inanimate material (stone, wood, ice, water, etc)?

>>52419595
that's dumb
fucking leafs

>>52419573
I ain't your pal, buddy.

>>52419613
If you're calling me a leaf I'm not.

I'm an Australian in Germany.

>>52419583
see >>52418716

what race is best for monk? how much ac could i have at lvl 1?

>>52419606
What's wrong with wildshape. With Land druids it's basically just utility

Need to dig
Giant badger

Party member need a steed
Warhorse

Need to fly
Well fuck you that's level 8

>>52419645
>monk
play a different class

>>52419645
>what race is best for monk
Variant human.

> how much ac could i have at lvl 1
Greatly depends on how much you whore yourself out for minimaxing, but it's 16 at best.

>>52419645
>Best race
Anything that boosts Dex or Wis since your question pertains to AC, as for how much depends on how well you roll.

>>52419655
There's nothing wrong with it.
Sometimes I just want to play a nature guy that doesn't have the innate ability to turn into an animal though.

>>52419676
I suppose you could just forget about it and be say you lost your ability to do so

>>52418821
how the fuck don't they have sildar yet?

I want to brew some Warlock options because I love the class, but I'm terrible at balance. Would this invocation be broken?

Dark Discorporation
Prerequisite: Warlock Level 12
You may transform your body into a swarm of shadowy creatures. This functions as the Druid's Wild Shape feature, except the form you choose must be a swarm of beasts of CR 1 or less. You may use this feature twice, and regain expended uses when you finish a short or long rest. Each use lasts for a number of hours equal to half your Warlock level (rounded down).

I just want to be a murder of crows.

>>52419462
What this guy said >>52419524

>>52419645
Mountain Dwarf Kensai. Can use a Maul and Longbow off strength and pommel people with it, while wearing medium armour.

if you wouldn't fuck a tiefling you're weak

>>52419689
ummmmmmmmm NATURE CLERIC

>>52419664
but i like punching things

unless there's a better class/setup for doing that

>>52419693
CRAWWWLLLLLLING IN MY SKIN!!!

>>52419624
He took the fucking bait. I can't believe it

>>52419716
I don't mess around with clerics so I didn't think of that

>>52419589
>Fighters rely on short rests to compete with other martial classes and many groups never take short rests.
Fucking this. Barbarians may even have it worse, because one of the two archetypes they get out the door is almost objectively inferior to the other one, their rages last one minute, and they get at most six of them until they hit 20.

Im pretty new to Dnd and I have a question about Domain spells for a cleric. At 1st level I get to choose 2 level 1 spells. I chose Trickster cleric, which at level 1 gives me access to Charm person and Disguise self. Does that mean I get 2 level 1 spells, plus Charm person and disguise self? (giving me 4 level 1 spells to start). Or does it only give me the benefit of having those spells prepared if I happen to choose them?

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>>52419711
>if you wouldn't fuck a halfling you're weak

>>52419719
you're a fag

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So my players got a TPK inside a dungeon awhile ago.

Now they're going back to the same dungeon.

Before they died they stuffed all their good items inside a bag of holding and attempted to hide it.

I know they're going to go and try look for it now with new characters.

How do I effectively discourage this metagaming?

Apart from it just being not there

>>52419676
>>52419716
Also Paladin with Oath of the Ancients, make it a first spirit or some shit.

Ever commission art of your characters, /5eg/? How'd it turn out?

Any artist recommendations?

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Is there a viable way to be a str based valor bard that can stay in the frontlines for more than 10 seconds

>>52419761
>>52418866
well see

>>52419741
If I ever DM my own campaign and have a female halfling as one of my players I want to have a borderline Pedo npc trying to get in her pants

>>52419766
Fighter with a trumpet.

>>52419740
Yes, you get your domain spells ontop of your normal spells known

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>>52417649
>Have you actually used arcana material in game?
>mfw my party thinks UA is canon
>mfw they try to use UA without checking with the DM

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I've got a fun way to pass the time for you, /5eg/.

Take broken character concepts. Nuke Druid, Bugbearmont, Lore Wizard/Thunder Domain Cleric, and make them have a decent backstory to explain them. Any broken character concept, but with an interesting backstory that makes sense.

Make a character so good that even the most munchkin-hating DMs would feel a twinge of "maybe I let him in with this."

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>>52419783

>>52419761
I did it once for one of my characters and for my friend. They both turned out great and I think its a fantastic birthday gift

>>52419753
High DCs to find it, I mean ridiculously high. However if they manage it somehow let them have it.

>>52419741
no u

>>52419439
You sadden me with your truth. I mean hey, at least cis white male gay folk are pretty accepted here, so that's... something.

>>52419792
That's simple. I'll just make a Wizard.

>>52418724
>>52418786
>>52418813
>Tumblr
>subtlety

Pick one

>>52419784
I want at least one level in bard

>>52419753
Place a very obvious and very deadly encounter guarding the location.

>>52419819
Lowqualitybait.png

>>52419741
>>52419818
>>52419819

In the same thread

>>52418559

The moment I saw that spiel, I looked for a option to tell that freak to fuck off. When it didn't, I murdered him. You don't suffer reputation loss, and the camp doesn't turn hostile.

>>52419863

imagine being this triggered by two dialogue lines in a game of 10,000+ dialogue lines

>>52419863
Camp hated it too

>>52419878
>when /pol/fags are just as easy to trigger as tumblrinas

>>52419863
Wow you're so cool. I bet if someone said that to you in real life you'd do something even cooler.

>>52419878
>imagine being this triggered by two dialogue lines
I can trigger most of this thread with one.
It's not your baby.

>>52419878
I find it hilarious how hard tumblr tries to reclaim the words "snowflake" and "triggered".

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pls r8 my drow shadow monk i drew

>>52419815
Even with high DCs they're still effectively metagaming to know there is something to find.
>>52419835
Hmm, maybe some kind of demon.

>>52419926
Better than anything I could draw

Looks good

>>52419926
I envy you, the best I can do is stick figures. And not even Order of the Stick level of stick figures.

>>52418559
Anon your post fucked up this thread

>>52418821
>>52419579
This here desu

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>>52419939
>>52419959
Cool, also drew this
I only draw mai waifus

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Anyone ever play through or run any of the adventures in Quests of Doom? Either collection.

>>52419753
I would allow them to find it if any of them were Indiana Jones like characters, who would loot every room regardless.

But I think a cool idea would be to (if there are any groups like, say, a hobgoblin camp in the dungeon) have their items be found by someone. Have them fight mobs that are actively using bits and pieces of their gear, stronger gear deeper into the dungeon.

>>52419716
I promise I've been through the options many times over.
Nature cleric doesn't have access to what I want from the spell list.

Just playing a druid and pretending I don't have wildshape is the best option I have.

>>52419850
Stop doing that sad truth thing.

It's just so...sad and surreal that this conversation is going on here while between the three campaigns I'm in, there are a grand total of two cis people.

[rant about how I'm just here to talk about dnd and have fun but some people here keep bringing their politics into it]

>>52420007
>Nature cleric doesn't have access to what I want from the spell list.
you're a stupid autist

>>52417649
Is it Evil for me to use telekinesis to lie to my Party members and NPC's? My character is an ex-Assassin and I've been trying to keep it under wraps so I've been thinking about mind controlling the Cleric (who's somewhat onto my past) and getting him to forget about it.

>>52420032
>telekinesis
>mind control
those aren't the same thing, retard.

>>52420025
How?

>>52420032
The question you should be asking yourself is if it's evil to use magic to brainwash people, and the answer is yes.

One of my players is using a kensei monk and has got his hands on +2 magic weapon+ 2d6 greatsword (HotDQ & RoT). It's cheesing the game when he adds +3 to it and then GWMs on every strike. Top it off with stunning strike and I have to make encounters CR 16+ to face the party.

What are some good encounters to face This?

>>52420054
yeah okay fucking faggot dumbass retard. you clearly understand what i fucking meant you crypto homo piece of shit cock sucker motherfucker

>>52420057
yeah thats what i thought thanks man

>>52420054
Telekinesis him down the stairs so he gets amnesia of course

>>52420060
Why the fuck did you give him the sword in the first place?

so to reiterate, if not monk, then what class should i be if i want to run around and punch people and also be useful

>>52420025
Why?
Nature cleric kind of sucks, and it's pretty far and away from what I'd like to play anyway.

Literally the first thing I said was that I like the druid's access to elemental spells. Clerics have some of these, but only some. Investiture spells, for instance, are fun for me.

>>52420060
>One of my players is using a kensei monk
Found the problem.

I'm noticing an interesting correlation guys.
Whenever the /pol/fags turn up, the thread immediately stops being good.
That's pretty interesting i thought.

>>52420060
I'd suggest he dips fighter to reroll 1's and 2's for all those damage dice.

Seriously though that swords a fucking nightmare and you need to just say to him, I've got to take it off you because no one else enjoys this.

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>>52420055
You're obsessing over playing a super specific king of character that the game doesn't have a suitable class/subclass for, and instead of just playing something else you are going to play a druid and just not wildshape. You have wayyyy bigger problems than anything d&d related and you should be on medication. You're just going to embarrass yourself and ruin whatever game you play in.

>>52419993
Do you take comissions? You have a style.

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>>52420032
Are you going for redemption, or just a clean slate?

Redemption might be more interesting, and avoiding that through mind-fuckery breaks the NAP.

If you are going for redemption, ask the cleric's player to help you roleplay through that.

>>52420096
Barbarian and refluff Maul into a gauntlet

>>52420096
BIG DUMB BARBARIAN
Take tavern brawler. Have the most fun out of anyone.
The DM will like you paying attention to how they describe the room.
>You said there was a chair here right?
>Yeah
>I PICK IT UP IN A RAGE AND I SMASH IT ON HIS HEAD

It's simple but fun. Don't forget you get to add your rage bonus damage to it.

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>>52420127
Naw, I can only draw things that I personally REALLY care about. Otherwise I get bored and don't do a good job.

For example, this was my female Dwarf life cleric. They call her Irontoe because she's kicks male dwarfs in the balls when they harass her.

>>52420087
It's built into the module: it's hazirawn from curse of the dragon queen

>>52420107
really gets the noggin joggin

>>52419993
Oh this one's very nice. Good job man.

>>52420136
Yes, redemption but we are a somewhat new party. Without getting into the story, we've all sort of just overcome this ordeal and now we've got some time to rest so everyone was talking about their past.

My character fudged a lie because the cleric was able to insight into it and he knows I was making things up regarding my past. I'm a Mystic and I was thinking of mind controlling him into forgetting about it but obviously that continues the cycle of Evil.

>>52420122
There's literally nothing wrong with this though.
In fact, sperging out about someone simply not using an ability for role play purposes is far more autistic.

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>>52420122
>>52420025
>>52420022
>>52419819

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>>52420107
>Turn up

We're always here anon. We just smack down socialist cucks when they shitpost.

>>52420166
What kind of cleric are they?

I've always found it to be fun interacting with evangelical sorts in game. Had a game with full Divine class roster (clerics and paladins). We tried to convert every town we went to.

>>52420185
perhaps it is I who was the autist all along

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Heya, /5eg/. Since you seem to know game balance better than the designers, here's a warlock patron I whipped up. Let me know what you think.

>>52420118
God, its bad enough that he does 8d6 + 40 with a +10 to hit every turn. Increasing his average rolls would be a shitshow.

>>52420206
>admitting defeat in your first post
Well that was easy.

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>>52420219

>>52420206
Maybe on your generals. /5eg/ is very quick to ridicule /pol/ when it speaks up.
It's not that /pol/ isn't welcome, but it should keep its opinions to itself.

>>52420218
Where do you think you are?

Hey /tg/ I need a bit of advice. I'm about to join a group where we all start level one, and the rest of the group is a War Cleric, a Battle-Master Fighter, a Stone Sorcerer, and a Rogue. The DM has said we'll be doing Tales from the Yawning Portal, I'm pretty amped. Where I need the advice is in regards to what I should play.

I've been thinking and I've narrowed it down to a Land Druid (either Forest or Mountain, and race will probably be either Firbolg or Hill Dwarf), a High Elf Abjuration Wizard, or an Aasimar Lore Bard. I'm apprehensive about playing a bard since I've been playing one since early October at the local Adventurer's League, and I'm sort of getting burned out on playing spellcasters (especially bards). But I'm worried the group won't have the heals or the casting where-with-all that comes with casters. I'm leaning towards the Abjuration Wizard for the Int skills that come with it, and the self-sustainability so that I don't feel like a huge burden on the group.

Or I could ignore those feelings and do what the DM says and "Play what you feel like would be fun!" Which would either be a Aasimar Paladin or a Human variant Monk. My reservations with doing that is the overall survivability of the group.

Thoughts? I'll take suggestions.

>>52420250
/Pol/ is 4chan too u gaiz stahp fightin

>>52420250
>Where do you think you are?
at home?

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>>52420235
psst you're the socialist cuck
>>52420250
Can't you tell anon, even normies have turned against you.

>>52420122
Just so you know, man. I have only ever played a standard druid. I'm not obsessing over any of this shit. I really like the druid class.

I'm saying I'd *like* to play a non-wildshaping druid because I like their spell list. And that's the best option I have to emulate what I would like to play character wise. Just to change it up. I've never thrown a fit because the game doesn't let me do that.

Now you're here imagining a scenario that you can use to fly into a literal autist rage at some stranger on an international taiwanese basket weaving board that has a different idea of fun than you.

Take a step back and do some self-reflection.

>>52420272
>Land Druid
literal worst sublass of worst class

>>52420272
>Party has war cleric
You'll be fine, as long as he remembers to prepare Healing Word and Prayer of Healing.

>>52420272
Dwarven Druid all day long.

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>>52420166
Stop being tsundere and just tell him to get it over with.
Also, I'm just going to step out until the politics talk halts.
>>52420219
>Defiance
For real?

>>52420287
>international taiwanese basket weaving board
XDD ebin

>>52420294
>youre having fun wrong

>>52420311
Hell yah dwarf druids turn up

>>52420157
She has a very short beard

>>52420219
From a gameplay perspective? Sure, just remove one of the languages you get (Celestial and either Abyssal or Infernal could work) and limit the resistance carryover to a 30ft circle instead of everyone.

From a fluff perspective, you realize Clerics are just good warlocks, right? They both make pacts with higher beings for power, and get perks depending what pact/domain they get.

>>52420107
>Implying it's actually pol fags

It's trolls who know that every board flips their shit over the same comments again and again.

If it were real pol fags there'd be more racist comments and (((()))).

>>52420337
>implying male dwarves aren't always wearing ball protection

>>52420313
For real, unless you explain your issue with it. I'm open to suggestions here.

>>52420341
Gameplay - fair enough, those suggestions both make sense.
Fluff - there's a difference between someone who gets divine powers in return for faith and service and someone who bargains with an archangel.

>>52420272
You should just play what you think would be the most fun. This game is the worst when you treat it like some kind of videogame trying to pump out numbers.

Make a character you find interesting. Roleplay it to the best of your ability. Put your emphasis on having fun. If the DM is a good DM he will structure encounters so that your group has a good chance to survive so long as you don't act like retards. Even failure in this game can be very fun and memorable. Enjoy it.

>>52420294
That's not wot4e.

>>52420352
Elves get out

Elves go back to the forest

Cast a force wall

>>52420352
I have seen a few racist comments and ((()))s here myself. The parentheses usually come up because of Mearls though. But not always.

>>52420381
>elves
>not greedy dwarves

This isn't TES.

>>52419265
I know, right? Thanks for reminding me of PAM, guy. Now I feel like bitching about it some more.

Fuck PAM, man.

>>52420337
ummmmmmm Dara
it's a she

here's her theme, written and performed by me

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1q5fA4Bqm2R

>>52420096
If you play the Monk even halfway decent you can be an asset, the mobility and stun lock potential is an asset. The main thing to avoid is Wot4E, other than that I'd suggest open palm since you want to focus on punching.

Are they the best class? No but for what you want they are what you have.

>>52420400
It doesn't help when all the designers took on the ((())). They're all a bunch of jews.

But I like their game.

>>52419295
>executing the goblins
pleb tier.
A goblin chain gang is better. Also, how else will you acquire disposable minions to kick into traps?

all the niggers in the phb lol

>>52420215
Life domain. He's really interesting. Plays a sort of wandering doctor type who was motivated by a massacre a long time ago. Long story short, we agreed (OOC of course) that I was a proponent (incidentally) of that massacre as my ASsassin Guild botched a job and it wound up getting a lot of people killed.

so you can see there is a natural dilemma in me revealing my past to him because it's a can of worms that might lead to some serious fracturing. The thing is, my character is motivated to try and redeem himself and really does his best to maintain an aura of goodness and good behavior. I am a Soul Knife, occassionally I slip into fits of madness due to it being one of my Mystic quirks but other than that I've done an okay job so far. But after last session I am worried.

This is why I considered using some mind control to get the Cleric "off my back" so to speak. But I didn't want to delve back into Evil tendencies.

>>52419265
>Ok you'll be fighting nothing but Archers which will stay at 150/500 ft and casters that'll be casting max range fireballs

>>52420414
Elves fuck trees and haven't worked an honest day in their fucking lives now get out you fucking knife ear

>>52420479
You're not wrong, but elves are just a symptom.

>>52419740
BUMP, I'd love to have more than just one reply just in case, thanks!

>>52420457
none of us can speak goblin and could not coordinate with them

>>52420470
I'm your DM
Try that shit and I'll fucking bury you

>>52420313
>Stop being tsundere and just tell him to get it over with.

>>52420470
This is my dilemma

>>52420381
Low energy, lurk pol a bit to brush up on that

>>52420400
True but with pol it's what they always do, it's a habit.

>>52420158
yes, but why did you give it to him? Couldn't you have at least have handed a nerfed version?

>>52420499
lol fuck you might actually be he browses /tg/ :DD text me

>>52420470
>madness
First mistake there. Don't go too stabby stabby kill kill, that usually isn't fun to play around.

Talk with the cleric's player about it, and I'd recommend going for full redemption. Mind altering is covering up. And it is never the crime, it is the cover up.

>>52420493
At level 1 you can CAST 2 1st-level spells per day. Your domain spells are automatically prepared and do not count against your (level + wisdom modifier) prepared list, but still use up slots when you cast them.

>>52420373
Ok, I'll try to keep that in mind. Maybe I'm too used to Adventurer's League where they incorporate spellcasters and could easily kill the entire group if you don't counterspell easily enough.

>>52420298
You think? I only know the Fighter and DM before I go on Sunday. I'm not sure how experienced the other players will be.

>>52420541
Alright. His character is mostly a pacifist but cannot tolerate things in which he defines as being "incapable of helping Life along". Anyways I didn't mean to suggest I go full murderhobo, rather, in the midst of a combat I have the potential to sort of commit "overkill".

Like last fight after we had slain a group of Bugbears I had to be physically pulled off one of the corpses as I was essentially mutilating the corpse.

>>52418309
obviously he's a debt collector, not even death will stop his clients from receiving what they're owed

>>52420548
I know that I can only cast 2 spells per day, since I have 2 spell slots. But would I have 2 spells to choose from, or 4 spells to choose from is what I'm unsure about

>>52420548
Correction: (level/2)+wis modifier.

>>52420219
The Infernal and Abyssal languages don't really make sense.

Soul Shield and Defiance are too powerful together as they make the whole party automatically immune to mind control.

Also I'd drop being frightened from Soul Shield just because it feels too broad.

>>52420032
Morally wrong? Yes.

Evil? No. You're objectively considering how to prevent harm. Evil characters don't have this consideration.

Why should anyone require redemption from other party members?

>>52420613
Four.

>>52420491
Red pill me on The true problem

>>52420613
What's your Wisdom score? If it's 16 you prepare 4 and get the two domain ones as well.

So 6 all up.

>>52420613
You fucking idiot, a cleric has access to the entire spell list up to the level he can cast. So if you can cast 4th level spells, you have access to the entire 1-4 cleric spell list to CHOOSE FROM. YOU STILL MUST CHOOSE WHICH ONES TO PREPARE. The domain spells add NON CLERIC SPELLS to that LIST, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PREPARE THEM TOO. YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOJNDNSJDNSAKLD

>>52420632
(level/2) is for paladins.
>>52420613
The spells you can choose from are set each time you prepare spells in the morning. You select (cleric level + wisdom modifier) spells, and then add your domain spells. From all of those, you can cast 2 per day. Check out the spellcasting feature again, carefully.

>>52420219
>defiance

>>52420662
why dont oyu stick the rulebook up your ass you fucking faggot dickhead

>>52420675
what
im right

>>52420637
You oppose demons and devils; understanding them would be nice.
Soul Shield makes you immune, which means you don't even roll a saving throw. You therefore cannot extend that immunity to anybody.
The reason I chose charmed, frightened, and possessed is because those are the effects protected against by protection from evil and good and similar effects.

>>52420674
>greentext
What is your issue with defiance? (keeping in mind that I updated it to have a maximum radius of 30 feet)

>>52420798
you are a big shitting diaper wearping asshole it doesnt matter if you can read the rules or not you are a fucking piece of shit you asshole get away!!

>>52420662
>Once you gain a domain spell, you always have it prepared, and it doesn’t count against the number of spells you can prepare each day.

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aww yisss
10th level cantrip found

Would you ever play a slutty Aasimar

>>52420816
oh

>>52420662
OOHH, I thought i picked a certain number of spells when I made my character, and then I could prepare a certain number of those per day, this makes a lot more sense

>>52420825
Aasimar, Genesai and Teiflings were mistakes

>>52420835
Do you feel like a fucking idiot or what?

It's alright though, everybody makes mistakes.

>>52420825
>slutty Aasimar

Redundant.

>>52420812
High quality game design discussion is what I come to /5eg/ for.

What about you guys?

>>52420820
Why not a Cleric spell?

>>52420843
THAT'S WIZARD

>>52420857
well i was mostly right

>>52420860
>What about you guys?

I'm a masochist.

>>52420860
Shitposting and to see what autismo wizard is shitting out today

>>52420867
why don't wizards get Resistance cantrip like in past editions

>>52420867
Jesus was a Favored Soul, sorcerer would fit as well

>>52420885
Also legitiment dissuasion. I like the thread climate

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>>52420860
youre a big fatass wheelchair dwemer faggot prob like pic related farting around all day bean ass fuck you rule book reading piece of shit scumbag

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>>52420885
>Shitposting and to see what autismo wizard is shitting out today
greetings druid
we meet again
'member how wrong you were

>>52420918
I feel like there was no right party

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>when you're actually invested enough to put real time and effort into your character's backstory and the people in his life outside the "main quest" but you know it doesn't matter because you know your DM won't do anything with them

>>52420936
I don't know if either were right or wrong, but I do know that nobody won and we all lost.

>>52420936
he was saying he could just shift into a giant ape to be too big and avoid my forcecage
we argued
turns out druids cant even become a giant ape so i was right Literally. All. Along.
He uses his turn to become something
I use my turn to forcecage him
I chortle then leisurely port to Silverymoon and have a drink

>>52420825
I feel deeply uncomfortable talking about sexual matters in social situations.I personally would not have fun roleplaying a slutty Aasimar.

That said, there is mythological precedence to the concept of a slutty Aasimar. Sacred prostitution was a common theme of many pagan gods such as Tanit and Asherah. It is worth bearing in mind the close connection between the Caananite religion and Judeachristianity which came from it. It is highly probable that in the first temple there were sacred prostitutes and also that the priests sacrificed first born male sons in the style of Mulk Baal sacrifices that happened in Carthage. It's fine to play a slutty Aasimar but you might want to sacrifice babies as well.

>>52420219
>revivify

>>52420964
But you couldn't force cage his balls so we were both wrong. I admit my fault I was being dumb. I leave it to you to do the rest

>>52420964
You know what I'm not wrong about wild shape for moon druids is a bonus action

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>>52420982
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/52382683/#q52385400

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>>52420941
>created a backstory today that involves the character's adoptive mother being an evil witch who killed her birth mother and told her it was a benevolent act of life-saving
>Character views her witch mother as though she can do no wrong, and has no clue she's responsible for her birth-mother's death
>tfw the DM asked today if he was allowed to bring the witch mother into the campaign, particularly as a villain

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>Players find the Conch
>Players are too scared to use the Conch
>Players think only death awaits them on the other side

best race for necromancer? was thinking catgirl homebrew because incerased movement so you can get away from people faster whiele your undead beat down your enemies

>>52420979
>A spell only marginally better than Spare The Dying that requires the warlock still have 1 of his 2 spell slots
>Giving more options to parties without clerics or bards
How horrifying

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>>52421026
>was thinking catgirl homebrew

>>52421026
Tabaxi is in Volos no need to use homebrew

>>52421026
Why not just Tabaxi? Not weeaboo enough?

>>52421010

lucky fuck

admittedly there's not a lot that could be done with my paladin, since we're in barovia at the moment and completely separated from the outside world

still, I wish there was context for me to have some development with the party

I'm pretty sure the only thing the other characters know about me is "has a wife" and "lives on a farm"

>>52420857
I don't feel like an idiot lol, I feel like a new player who is still learning mechanics. It makes sense now though so I'm pumped

>>52420979
I consider the spell reasonable on a warlock because of the low number of slots and the fact that it gives a last-ditch option to parties without a healer class. Do you think this is unreasonable?

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CAT GIRLS ARE OFFICIAL

Ok, so we can all agree that Sorcerer is a bit underwhelming as a class.

I like the metamagic being a unique thing they get, but their spell list being so small and having no unique spells really sucks.

So, my idea is to come up with some spells that are only for Sorcerers. I think a good blast is due.

Force Lance
3rd level Evocation

Make a spell attack roll against a creature or object. On a hit, the target takes 8d8 Force Damage and is shoved 10 feet away from you. Unattended objects are flung twice that far and take double damage.

>>52421044
>>52421035
>>52421041
tabaxi are cat people not catgirls, catgirls arent cats they still have human bodies lol just have some catt features

>>52421080
he was talking to me, idiot!

>>52421008
It looks like most of the people were on the druids side to me.

>>52421108
No him but it does kinda allow the Warlock to bring people back from the dead a lot. I'm not opposed to it being in the homebrew but I most likely wouldn't allow it in my game with characters that can exploit a risk/reward trade off.

>>52421026
V.human

The answer is always V.human. Every time someone asks, "what is the best race," the answer is always V.human. The only situation you would ever do anything but V.human is if you need to climb sheer surfaces (Tabaxi), if you need to fly from level 1 (Aarakocra or however the fuck you spell those Eagles), or need to be able to breath underwater (Tritons).

>>52421161

or you could not be a boring powergaming piece of shit

how about that huh

>>52421138
We know we were trying to stop the weeaboo

>>52421129
Spellpoint Variant in the DMG and an extra spell every even level works well.

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>>52421129
>Force Lance
>3rd level Evocation
>Make a spell attack roll against a creature or object. On a hit, the target takes 8d8 Force Damage and is shoved 10 feet away from you. Unattended objects are flung twice that far and take double damage.
HAHAHAHA

>>52421154
Then they were stupid, because druids can't even become apes. But to summarize:

>Druids suck
>No they don't
>I could just forcecage you
>I'd become a giant ape, too big to forcecage
>I'd forcecage your dick+balls
>YOU CANT
>I WILL
>Thread: Wait, druids can't become giant apes.
>SO I WIN AND I WILL ALWWAYS WIN

>>52421129
I just want more wild magic effects that aren't just lolsorandom crap that's more likely to end your character than do anything interesting.

>>52419268
I like what you've done here but it needs a bit of proofreading and basic editing.
For example, under Minotaur so you don't have Labyrinthine Recall in bold, had to reread that section three times to find it.

>>52421199
Yes. I play mostly land Druid and to be entirely honest done use wildshape that much. It doesn't matter what the druid turned into because I just chose that spur of the moment because it sounded cool. No one wins and we all lost

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also this MONSTROUS butthurt

>>52419766
At level four take the heavy armor proficiency feat.

>>52421233
All wizards ever do when I try to have a conversation about who is better is say "well I cast forcecage and win" and it gets old very fast

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>>52421231
but i won lol

the argument started because I was basically saying "Druids are ghey because everything you can throw at me can be stopped with forcecage". And you said "no but Giant Ape" which was totally wrong. So my original point was correct.

>>52421160
What do you mean by "a lot"? A cleric that prepares Revivify can cast it more often at almost every level because of the massive amount of slots it gets.
Maybe my experience varies from yours because my last DM didn't give a lot of opportunities for short rests.
Is your issue that you suspect players will get themselves killed on purpose? Would that not be an issue in a party with a cleric or a paladin?

>>52421263
Okay you win are you happy anon

>>52421199
At 3rd level a Moon Druid will always rape any wizard.

More games are played at 3rd level than those that get 6th+ level spells

Thus Druids are usually better than Wizards

QED

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>>52421281
i knew i won yesterday lol
you have nothing to offer me

>>52421304
I let you win and you are still a pretentious faggot about it I don't know what I was expecting

>>52421304
>>52421263
>>52421233
>>52421199
pls get a trip so I can filter you

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>>52421283
Form Of... A Sheep!
>gets fireballed

>>52421220
http://www.thievesguild.cc/spells/wild-surge

Is decent if you put some work into updating the rules

>>52421268
It's more of a "People can die twice, comeback, take a 1 hour rest and go at it again". Honestly I will admit the main gripe that jumped out at me is I have a Zealot Barbarian in my party so thinking about an EB machine that can constantly revive the suicidal fucker... Isn't good.

It's most likely balanced but also feels a little weird on Warlocks. I personally don't particularly like the fluff of a Divine Warlock, but whatever floats your boat.

>>52421176
Not even powergaming, because V.humans are also the best for roleplaying.

I haven't seen a single setting where there are no humans being played yet. And because of that availability and versatility, you can make any kind of character. A young mage who spent their days learning on the battlefield with their master, a spellsword sell-sword? Take the War Caster feat to enhance your story with real consequences. Or did you make a Fighter who learned how to survive with the mantra, "Use anything, take anything to live?" Tavern Brawler feat, so your backstory of surviving on the streets makes sense, because what kind of urchin would have a sword or dagger?

Or hell, you want a once pious, devote worshipper of the Light, who was about to die to a military raid on his church, until, seconds from death, an Archfey offered a pact to give them the power to survive? Then take Magic Initiate for your Warlock, and let them know Cleric spells on top of their Warlock list, so it makes sense.

Even in Roleplaying, a V.human is better. Unless your backstory is so bland, there was nothing your character did before being an adventurer that would make them interesting in any way (or had specialties outside of what any feat could offer)

>>52420574
>essentially mutilating the corpse.
sounds a little grim for my taste. But if it works at your table, whatevs.

Supporting life? How about moving your character towards a "gardener" mentality?

The world is full of EVIL, from demon cults to lichs. Sometimes, the best way to prevent the evil from spreading is kill one individual. Like weeding a flower bed or trimming a tree. The garden as a whole is better off for the work you do, even if it is dirty.

The question left is who decides who lives and who dies?

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>>52421320
you're a little bitch

>>52421225
Thanks for pointing that out, I copy-pasted most of the stuff from the original Codex, had to edit everything by hand, so some stuff might have been missed.

BTW, here's the whole text so anyone can have their own on Homebrewery: https://pastebin.com/raw/jBHjkRtr

>>52421331
Fireball requires 5th level. Try to bait harder.

>>52421331
>fireball
>at third level

You need to work on your reading comprehension, kid.

>>52421332
Why not a Jewish Baal Shem who summons and makes deals with angels?

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>>52421350
>3rd level than those that get 6th+ level spells
he was talking about spell levels lol

>>52421343
>Clerix spells and Warlock spells

Hold your horses you cunt

>>52421367
No, I wasn't, kid. If I was I would have said so.

>>52421363
Angels feel like they'd just give holy power to Warriors of pure heart. Like Clerics and Paladins.

The idea of a creature of pure good trying to trade power to a guy in exchange for a favor is retarded. Once again that's my opinion and how my setting works.

>>52421367
>More games are played at 3rd level than those that get 6th+ level spells

Wow you are really trying aren't you anon

>>52421391
you did lol
you said so
>than those that get 6th+ level spells
you literally did. or... else you're an idiot who can't type lol

uh oh

first the giant ape thing now this
you just cant catch a break

>>52420967
Born too late to fuck holy whores, too early to fuck space whores.

>>52421410
but juuuust right to be a fat virgin

>>52421409
It's not my fault you can't read, kid.

If a human is attracted to halfling a is that borderline pedophilia

>>52421023
>the Conch
Which module?