Pathfinder General /pfg/

FUCK STONE GIANTS

>>52336739

I want to include Giants as the inventors of rifles and the great equalizer to the dragon problem!

>>52336742
I can't do that. Unless I stay regular and fap three times a day or more, it starts fucking with my head, and everything I write has intensely romantic and sexual themes.

>>52335414
Too gross. A protective older brother can't be gross, Anon. That isn't cute.

>>52335443
Cursed Wounds is a classic. What's a neat curse or cursing effect that someone's shitty half-brother could employ to fuck them up?

>>52336766
Are Vilderavn angry though? They're cruel, but I'm not sure they're thematically about Neverending Wrath.

>>52336776
>intensely romantic
Is that so bad, though?

>>52336739
>tfw actually like how Warcraft did the "Humans are descended from giants" thing
>want to implement something similar in my setting, but don't know which giant variants would live on plains long enough to shrink

Ack.

>>52336739
We just killed about three dozen giants so we could ask another giant for help using his giant powers to figure out a giant tome. But he wants us to track down the giant giants who were gianting up his giant house before he'll giant us giant help.

>>52336801
...goddamn it, I know exactly what adventure you're talking about.

>>52336797
Man, it can be. Most of my villains are sad and/or crazy people obsessed with some romantic object of their affections when I'm not careful. It's bad to be repetitive.

If I stay regular, I go back to writing ruthless usurpers instead.

>>52336801
Giant giant giant giant giant giant giant
It doesn't look like a word anymore.

>>52336845

Anon, what it sounds like is you need to ease off the three-a-days and try to let your hormones settle out before trying to nofap.

>>52336680
How effective has knowledge of mimics been at protecting players from mimics, though?

Vilderavn are the exact same kind of enemy. It's too late by the time you realize there is one involved.

>>52336862
But when I ease off I end up doing crazy things like applying to Polish Lithuanian Decentralization

>game concept
>begins at level 3
>every player must be a criminal in some manner, a criminal terrible enough to warrant removal from society
>players start out having been teleported to a prison colony
>prison colony is the domain of a Void Wendigo, who acts as the warden in exchange for a steady supply of prisoners to consume and torment
>the colony is a massive number of vessels (since they are magical they range from floating castles, actual spaceships, islands, featureless orbs) floating in the void
>Void Wendigos attack anything that goes by, so they collect massive ship graveyards
>it's somewhere out beyond the edge of the Aucturn, the Stranger
>players have to participate in gang politics, numerous cell blocks infighting, avoiding the void wendigo, tribal like cultures, weird pockets of people trying to be civilized, the strange ecology that's developed, and more
>at the center of it there are the wardens and guards who ensure no one gets out

>>52336756
I mean if you're brave enough.

please dont shill your own apps

>>52336902
I know I'd apply.

>>52336739
>When was the last time you included Giants as foes? As friends? As Quest Givers? As love interests?

>foes
The next subplot will feature an insane, imprisoned Fire Giant.

>friends
Haven't done it yet, but I want to include a cute Storm Giant in a campaign someday.

>Quest Giver
Never done this one

>Love Interest
See Storm Giant mentioned above.

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>>52336925
You got it hoss.

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>>52336888

What's wrong with Political-Legal Discourse?

>>52336925
Addendum: Please don't shill other people's apps, it makes them look like shills. If you must shill any apps, try to shill a full party to hide the shilling and make it into a discussion topic.

Make the CUTEST party you can.

>>52336902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wZNXK6fvNE

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>>52336739
Reposting >>52336103 to the new general.

Alright /pfg/, we're going to decide it once and for all tonight- what's the best way to handle level advancement in Pathfinder, tracking EXP or leveling up when the narrative/DM says so?

Advantages of tracking EXP:
1. PCs are given a sense of progress by the accumulation of their EXP
2. PCs can't bitch at the DM about being "overdue" to level
3. This is the expected default way of doing it, especially when starting a game with a new group

Advantages of narrative-based leveling:
1. Less book-keeping, you don't need to keep track of EXP
2. DM doesn't need to ration out or budget EXP to make sure the PCs level up at the rate he wants
3. PCs are less encouraged to murderhobo because enemies aren't walking bags of EXP
4. The PCs leveling up will always coincide with satisfying or dramatic moments in the story

I'm sure I'm messing other stuff, so tell me anything you think I forgot. Also, throw votes at this Strawpoll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12595038 (embed)

>>52336902
>>52336937
>In Space, no one can hear you get turned out by Burly Bill the Half-Orc Brawler

Is this the latest rape-themed game from the same geniuses that brought us PLD?

I want to just end my game and start anew (new DM that let the PCs level way too quickly, now they're just gods of combat).

So far the only idea is for the BBEG to trap the city they live in up in the sky until the entire city starves to death.

>>52333957
>tfw never getting this review

>>52336965
Don't track EXP.

>>52336948
It's cancer that'll get /pfg/ banned from /tg/.

>>52336958
>Maice
>Gloriana
>Vier
>Lysander

>>52336977
>/pfg/ getting banned is bad
I pray for death

>>52336985
>Not including Cashmere.

>>52336948
It's just pretty unpopular. Maybe they're right, you know? Maybe I'm just too fucked up.

I'm working on redemption, though. I'm planning some really comfy apps for LoBaF and Shardwalkers that I can hopefully finish by this weekend.

>>52336985
>Yandere
>Slut
>Afraid of girls
>Delusional
I don't think you're doing this right.

>>52336975
>TFW we're never going to hear the RotJR theory that got the real ReviewAnon2 killed by a vilderavn

>>52337010
I like this development more than vilderavns. Especially if there's a lot of red herring hints that it's a vilderavn bbeg.

>>52336880
Too late as in, you have already been part of an awesome story at the point of reveal? What a fucking shame.

So in golarion who were the great big bad wizard god kings?

I know Tar-Baphon, Nex, and Geb, but who else?

>>52336958
>Lysander
>Sigmund
>Gloriana
>Doug

>>52336958
>Lysander
>Bon-Bon
>Gloriana
>Sigmund

>>52337052
Ramzir

>>52337049
I've been saying this for the last few threads. At this point, it's a bigger twist to have not had a Vilderavn at all.

>>52337052
>I know Tar-Baphon, Nex, and Geb, but who else?

The Runelords and, as much as we'd want to admit he isn't, Razmir.

>all these Gloriana shills

Fucking disgusting

>>52336776
this explains so much about /pfg/

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>Bon-Bon changed her art!
>mfw

>>52337007

Whatcha got planned? I'm hoping to see the LoBaF group be pretty chill folks.

>>52337081
I want to marry Alaznist!

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>>52337074
But not only is it more of a twist in terms of expectations, but it almost feels more emotional since it's the people who are awful. There's no big bad at the end. There are no heroes.

What is a man?

Someone in my group wants to play a Zealot from expanded Path of War. Zealots regain chamod maneuvers from using Aid Another as a move action, or from using a standard action to regain a single one. Starting at level one, they have "Compartmentalized Aid", which allows them to use Aid Another on themselves to gain a bonus to attack/ac, activate Zeal, and regain maneuvers.

Why would you ever use a standard action to regain a single maneuver? Am I missing something?

>>52337052
Nethys, though he ascended. Baba Yaga, I guess? All the Runelords, Xin.

>>52337081
What's so bad about Razmir? Dude's got a lockdown on his population not through magical means, but through having a fucking cocaine Empire!

>>52337084
I don't get the meme either.

>>52337081
>>52337073
Razmir isn't mythic so I wouldn't normally count him. Were the Runelords mythic?

So:
>Razmir, the Living God
>Tar-Baphon, the Whispering Tyrant
>Geb
>Nex
>Alaznist, Runelord of Wrath
>Belimarius, Runelord of Envy
>Karzoug, Runelord of Greed
>Krune, Runelord of Sloth
>Sorshen, Runelord of Lust
>Xanderghul, Runelord of Pride
>Zutha, Runelord of Gluttony

How would one make a qlippoth tiefling girl cute while simultaneously keeping her creepy, revolting, and overall vile?

>>52336776
This is the most /pfg/ post I've ever seen. Every time I think you can't disgust me anymore, you do.

>>52337114
>There are no heroes.

That's what happens when you kill everyone who was brave enough to fight back. Everyone else pees themselves and stays home and tries to wait you out.

>>52337142
My theory is that Gloriana shilled herself two or three times and annoyed someone enough to attract a permanant falseflag.

>>52337113
That's just what Sorshen wants you to believe.

>>52337131
>Why would you ever use a standard action to regain a single maneuver? Am I missing something?
I'm 99% that nearly all non-bushi initiators can recover as a standard. It's just something they have naturally, even if it doesn't make sense ala zealot.

>>52337151
But anon, the /pfg/ was in you all along. A man cannot hate that which is not in himself.

It's why I can only feel pity over all of this.

>>52336739

One of my friends rolled up a ranger once, with the backstory that trolls destroyed her hometown and so her favored enemy above all else was giants of all kinds. A flaming mithral longsword became her weapon of choice.

That giant-foedom got to come into play nicely twice, once when she and the party found the tomb they were seeking was guarded by a frost giant warrior and she challenged him to single combat to cross. Ate a greataxe crit in the second round and was nearly dead, but with sheer grit, a bit of lenience on my part with using climb ranks in a cool way, and a well placed tree feather token, she defeated and befriended him.

Since it was trolls specifically she hated, the other time it came into play was when the party had to fight a roided-up barbarian supertroll empowered by philosopher's stone fragments and able to regen through acid and fire while raging. Nearly eviscerated the entire party, but they cut off one of its arms, blew its chest open, poisoned it, and finally our ranger decapitated it just in time for its rage to run out and her sword to seal its regen.

>>52337112
For LoBaF? I'm working up an exiled Qadiran princess patterned after Princess Parizade, but with a gloomy twist resulting in exile instead of the reunion of the three siblings with their father.

>>52337111
I liked the painted face better. But I think this makes the Sakara ship a little easier.

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>>52337144
Make her buggy. Like, more buggy than this, but buggy. Chitinous, twitchy. Some uncanny valley stuff.

>>52337144

She's covered in tentacles that don't actually look that bad... Until they start oozing out milky-white goo or reveal they're lined with molars.

>>52337144
Make sure she has the pass for human trait, but also has the personality of Crystal Fraiser.

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>>52337163
Nah, I never mentioned her except in response to others. I swear upon the old memes and the new.

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>>52337209
>Fraiser
Pls no...

>>52337165
Sorshen is shit! SHIT!

Alaznist is pure! Rage is pure!

>>52337236

Am I the only one that gets Sorshen and Senshen confused?

>>52337199
THRI-KREEN!

>>52337183

Cool. Princesses are very arabian nights, which is sorely needed. We'd be competing for spots I guess, but good luck.

>>52337273
What, you don't think we'll get an all-princess party?

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>>52336739
>tfw giants are an interesting and threatening enemy presenting a unique challenge rife with roleplaying opportunities but their ur magical realm and u dun wanna be a shitty gm

fug u universe

>>52337297
The best sort of party.

>>52337144
She's got a regular, human-like face but her vagina looks like the qlippoth from the picture in >>52334781.

Somebody please invite me to a GMT+8 game. I checked gamefinder and the roll20 and come up with nothing

>>52337327
Go to college.

>>52337221

Gloriana needs a hug.

There, I said it.

>>52337297

I hope not, since I didn't make a princess!

>>52337144
Eerily beautiful face, revealing outfit which shows off her beautiful flawless skin.

This is deliberate, literally everything that isn't shown is monstrous and disgusting. Eyes where her nipples would be, a mouth on her torso, flesh that trails off and writhes down her back. The sensuality is all part of the plan.

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>>52337342
>implying chinese college

>>52337344
How many characters don't need a hug?

>>52337373
Which WWW characters need a hug?

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>>52337383
>>52337373
I could use a hug.

>>52337398
I could use a thug.

>>52337327

No offense man, but you're kind of screwed on campaigns with that GMT - you might find Australians or Filipinos making something, but it's rare.

>>52337144
Post art of Qlippoth tiefling girls! Cute or not.

but preferably cute

>>52337398

Press F to hug

>>52337398
>>52337402
I'll hug!

>>52337404
Yeah its pretty bad, in roll20, there are only 3 games available and 2 of them are pay-to-play

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>>52337398
The warmer the hug, the colder you'll feel once their body goes limp.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true. An empty heart cannot be broken.

>>52337427
You fool, I said I need a THUG! Don't you dare touch me!

>>52337426
>>52337427
F

>>52337431

Pay to play is a blight on Roll20 and needs to go, and I figure the one free game isn't meshing well with you?

>>52337441
Let me pinch those cute rosy cheeks anon!

>>52337453
the one game has 50 applicants and only 3 spots

One of the Magus rework anons here with some questions.

How much would it fuck things if spellstrike and spell combat were each gained a level later because of a poolstrike-like ability (SA-like progression of d6 on odd levels, pool point for full level d6) gained at first?

Would getting Arcana every even level be super wonk? Even if many of the old features magus had were now arcana?

On that note, what old features are worth keeping as arcana? Also extends to old archetypes that could/should be converted to arcana. Kensai and Eldritch archer are probably too much to convert easily.

>>52337344
Maybe someday her loving husband will return and give her lots of hugs and kisses.

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>>52337469
>50 apps, 3 spots

>>52337431

Would you be willing to go with Play by Post? If so, Myth-Weavers has a healthy PbP community.

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>>52337348
It's not too late to Edit that App, Anon.

>>52337199
BUGS ARE CUTE

>>52337398
I'd hug you, Anon, but I'm too busy thinking of fresh memes to apply with in other games.

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>>52337509
Oh really?

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For the anon asking for god wizards.
Of note are Alaznist, Arazni, Baba Yaga, Elvanna, Geb, Kaltessa Iyis, Karzoug, Jatembe, Nex, Razmir, Socorro, Sorshen, Tar-Baphon, and Xanderghul, as they all have access to 9th level spells. Also to be looked at is Khortash Khain, who has access to 7th level arcane spells and 8th level divine spells.

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>>52337488
>mythweavers
>healthy

People on /pfg/ don't realize how good they have it when they complain about games being bamboozles

>>52337488
How does PbP work anyway? What about combat?

>>52337476

I want to see Gloriana find a loving man on her travels and settle down! She's infertile, but she could totally adopt!

>>52337493
Okay everyone, take a Legacy app and make them into a princess. If you get a boy, it's optional to make them a prince instead, and it's also optional to gender change them if you make them a princess. Here's the roll table if you don't wanna pick.

>1. Hogoth
>2. Gamze
>3. Tomasz
>4. Lamia/Samiya
>5. Erasmus
>6. Tarani
>7. Mellisan
>8. Shanan
>9. Rajima
>10. Tatheyrus
>11. Iuni
>12. Juin
>13. Otolvian
>14. Sakara
>15. Annahail
>16. Aida

>>52337531

Play by Post is through forums - you write out your character's action and reaction to a scene, and then wait for others to post and the DM to advance.

It's downright glacial, but it's something you spend a couple minutes replying to then go about your day doing something else.

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>>52337526
>johj
>Johj
>JOHJ

NOOOOOOOO

>>52337527
I want to see Arazni and Iomedae reconcile through lovemaking!

>>52337555
nah

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>>52337532
>not Gloriana finding a loving woman on her travels and settling down with her.

>>52336965
I run a more or less sandbox game, which doesn't lend itself well to not using EXP

>>52337527
Lrilatha is an awesome waifu. Best alignment, sexy Erinyes physique, Inquisitor levels, high-paying job advising the Queen? Flawless.

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>>52337468
Who are you calling CUTE?!

>>52336977
>>52336994
Y'all dense motherfuckers realize that even if /pfg/ gets banned, all the degenerates will just migrate to a new general and fuck it up.

Same thing happened with /wst/. Normie's and redditor newfags came in and shitposted it into oblivion and got it banned, then what resulted was all the pervert and degenerates started to flood the board for a while due to non longer having a constructive outlet and containment, the the very worst and memeist of them all settled here in /pfg/, where sadly they can't even use their boners to be constructive and make content, and instead just shut everything up with forced memes.

It happened before, you fags caused it, and it'll happen again.

Coincidentally, this has also coincided with the notable lack of quality and creativity in /tg/ as a whole as well

>>52337532
Finding something pure amidst all the depravity and despair would be pretty compelling, even if their Love was doomed to crumble and die in the face of the darkness.

Wasn't there going to be someone who applied for the express purpose of being her virtuous marriagebait?

>>52337603
I'm not sure she's down with the ladies. Though I suppose it doesn't say she isn't, either.

>>52337052
Jatembe, who seemed to be the only Good aligned one for a while.

Sadly, he disappeared into space somewhere and became the ultimate expression of the Magical Negro stereotype, along with the rest of Magaambya

>>52337701
>lack of quality

/tg/ was never good. 4chan was never good. The internet was never good. Existence was never good.

In other words, that's a bit of a non-issue.

>>52337719
>Wasn't there going to be someone who applied for the express purpose of being her virtuous marriagebait?
That was me, but I don't feel like my odds of getting picked are good.

Are there lore examples of NPCs grinding for XP somehow?

And I'm not talking about 'going out to train for years', but like, 'actively fucking with mechanics to grow stronger'.

>>52337752
You'll never know the future until it's the past, Anon. Have faith, and work hard, and the True Gods will bless you.

>>52337740
Who else finds it hilarious that there's not one, but TWO Magical Negros on Golarion who mysteriously vanished, never to be seen again?

>>52337765
No, exp systems only apply to PCs.

>>52337765
I'm pretty sure Baba Yaga fucks around with mechanics, similar to how Vecna used to.

>>52337405
I'm not even sure such a thing exists.

>>52337782
Isn't there a whole council of Magical Negros?

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>>52337779
I appreciate it. I'll keep the faith and remain hopeful. Who knows, maybe something good will happen.

>>52337555

I think it'd get boring mighty fast if everyone was princes and princesses. You need contrasts for the best drama.

>>52337796
YOU'RE A KID NOW

YOU'RE A SQUID NOW

>>52337782
Nex is Osirian, meaning he's probably either Garund or most likely Kelesh. Unless you also count the Garundi as negroid, he probably isn't a Magical Negro.

Also, my money is that he is currently caught in a temporal shift, and was probably flung far into the future, or to the other end of the universe and as such is currently busy with stuff to do.

>>52337814
You mean Jatembe's Ten Magic Warriors?

Yes, that's what they're actually called.

>>52337752
Guy, unless applying itself is a huge chore for you which might be legitimate, I don't know you, you should just apply to every game that you think you'd enjoy playing.

I mean what, he picks the names out of a hat, you got decent odds. He wants to build the party for compatibility, then even if you're in the overrated role of a primary melee, that still leaves you with decent chance. Hell, if you're making a man and /pfg/ is to be trusted, there're only 2, 3 other dudes at best that have a shot, that's 1 in 4!

>>52337814
There are two explicitly named, detailed, and actually shown to be pretty good, in Jatembe's case, and better than the other guy, in Nex's, level 20 casters from Garund, both of whom have just fucking vanished.

>>52337841
Go look at >>52337527
Nex is black.

>>52336902
So it's Gothic: Pathfinder Edition.

>>52337855
>you should just apply to every game that you think you'd enjoy playing.
Oh, I do.

>>52337833
>remain hopeful

But hope is an illusion, anon.

>>52337841
>>52337870
The depiction of Garundi people gets confusing. Sometimes they're hella negroid, and sometimes they're a pack of Libyan-looking motherfuckers. It's super inconsistent.

>>52337472
Any help on this, guys?

>>52337884
You gotta believe in something, anon.

>>52337836
A cute slave girl would be a good contrast with a princess.

>>52337528
>as part of your backstory please detail whatever village or city-quarter you come from, to help build the community

>alright hope everyone's ready! game starts next friday!

>and they he was never heard from again
>yet another fake-GM with about ten aborted campaigns that he ticks as "completed" when they never had so much as an intro.

Myth-Weavers doesn't HAVE games.

>>52337912
Says who? The ones who are not truly your friends?

Your allies think you are weak.

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>>52337531
It doesn't.
If you think bamboozles are a thing here, you ain't seen fucking NOTHING.

PbP games don't happen, so combat's a non-issue.

>>52337892
Mwangi are always black. Rahadoumi and Thuvians are Mediterranean. Osiriani are diverse, cause they used to have a fuckhueg empire. Katapeshi are a bit mixed, but mostly Arabian looking.

>>52337892
>Paizo in charge of racial consistency, accuracy, and sensitivity.
What did you expect. They're West Coast fair weather SJWs. As far as they are concerned Black people are a monocultural race that are the same all across Africa

The only people who cared were those who got the ISWG together, but moat of the people who made the quality content there seem to be gone now

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>>52337932
Who hurt you, anon? I want to reach out and do webm related.

>>52337969
You don't need to be hurt to realize that you are a pawn of forces unseen.

>>52337969
Rem is worst girl.

>>52337957
So according to Pazio, DEY

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>>52337983
Maybe you'd like Tomoko then?

>>52337741
>it was better back in the day
>my great-grandmother
>the jewish one.
>the one that went to camp.

Nostalgia is excessively rose-tinted most of the time. A FEW things have gotten far worse over the years, like our remaining freedoms, the unregulated genocidal greed of our banks, pre-programmed planned obsolescence through software like John Deere's started doing (making sure you WON'T be operating that tractor past a certain semi-randomized date)...

But a whole lot of shit (hey there, medicine! remember leeches?) was a metric fuckton worse.

>>52337383
Britt and Amias?

>>52337997
Misquote?

>>52338007
>forgetting about the christmas cake

>>52337994
No.
She reminds me too much of myself.

ANOTHER GOD DAMN PLD APP.

They're crawling out of the woodwork! Put your bets down now! How many more apps will there be before it closes?

>>52337997

I do find it kind of comforting to look back through history and find "it's all going to shit, the new generation is too lazy and disrespectful, and nothing's as good as it was when I was a kid" was a sentiment that predates Aristotle.

Nostalgia's a hell of a thing.

>>52337997
>muh banks
Ancaps pls go

>>52337792
You're a lying sack of shit, go kill your worthless self. Fucking die in a fire.

>>52337765
Anything gains XP the same way. Cohorts get a big bonus though by instead getting a fraction of what their PC leader gains (compared to the average NPC that's a lot faster because of what PCs face and how often they face it).

NPCs even have their own Wealth by Level tables, both for "standard" and for "heroic"(aka adventurer or high-grade" NPCs.

>>52337969
I don't know why but for the longest time I thought that one of those girls (I didn't know which one though) was a trap, for some reason. It was literally only a couple of weeks ago that my mistake was corrected.

>>52338042
Have we hit the 24 hour mark yet? What're we at now.

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>>52338054
Rem has blue hair, Ram has red, and Ferris is a cat.

>>52337997
>our remaining freedoms
>implying we were ever free

We're slaves to mortality one way or another. Time is a cruel master, and he owns us all. What we can or can't do to one another matters nothing in the face of that.

What's the next memegame after PaLaDIn?

>>52338089
There doesn't need to be a meme game.

You don't need memes.

>>52338076
Just less than 24 hours to go now.

>>52338076
24 hours in a few hours.

>>52338089
Legacy and Shardwalkers will quietly close while WWW memes pick up full time.

>>52338089
WWW maybe?

>>52338089
VilderavnMaker

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>>52338105
I want to meme these games!

Let's talk about applying to Shardwalkers as the comfiest possible characters and builds!

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>>52338054

>>52338105
>>52338129
What the hell is a shardwalker?

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So here's a question

If the Mwangi and their people's were the first to arise and rebuild civilization after Earthfall, and has consistently made all manner of high level wizards and powerful magocratic nations (like the Shory, who straight up had Virmana and stuff), how come they weren't the ones who expanded northward and eastward into the other continents and started colonizing everything like the Europeans did in our world?

Seems kinda silly that they could have this great lineage and historical influence, yet still be pretty much innefectual bunga-bungas on the whole in this current timeline and have almost no influence outside of Garund.

Because this smells suspicious to me, and seems like horrible oversight in world building and, I hate to say it, kinda racist.

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>>52338054
>>52338083
>>52338133

>>52338083
>>52338133
>>52338145
I understand everything now and I hate everything because of it.

>>52338129
I'm interested in the fake gestalt but not so much in the rest of the premise. I'd go full STRfag though and there're already a handful of those. Seems like it'd be pretty easy for other more interested people to make their way in.

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>>52338133

>>52338144
Kaiju.

>>52338144
They just didn't care.

>>52338144
/pol/ would have a field day with this.

>>52338180
Bless you.

>>52338165
>>52338145
Trapmind.

>>52338144
IIRC, it's because Angzahn showed up and started wrecking shit.

Jatambe and his followers and their followers, and so on, had to devote a massive amount of time and resources to hold back the Gorilla King, and all the other nasty cults in the deep jungle.

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>>52338180
Explain.

>>52338180
Speaking of, how do the biggest creatures in Pathfinder stack up against the average kaiju, size-wise?

>>52338202
There are Kaiju in the Mwangi expanse. Multiple.

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>>52338202
LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND, I, ROVAGUG, THE WORLD-EATING MASTER OF QLIPPOTHS, UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL!

BUT A FOOLISH ANGEL GODDESS WIELDING A FLAMING SWORD STEPPED FORTH AND IMPRISONED ME!

WHEN SHE THOUGHT THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK, SHE TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN THE EARTH, FLINGING GOLARION INTO A NEW AGE, WHERE MY SPAWN ARE LAW!

NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO SEAL THE RIFT SHE CREATED, AND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS ROVAGUG!

>>52338205
The biggest creatures in Pathfinder ARE Kaiju. Literally.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/magical-beasts/kaiju/

>>52338144
The same reason that the Mwangi people form a single monocultural country instead of having diversity. The same reason that some Mwangi literally turn into apes in an AP. Because Paizo is helmed by white liberals who probably only just woke up to the fact that racism was still a very real problem in America after it became trendy to support BLM. They put so much effort into emphasizing sexuality and gender politics, but they've got zero awareness with regards to racial politics in their exploitative and frankly insulting setting.

>>52338205
The biggest creatures in Pathfinder ARE Kaiju.

How common are mind-affecting spells on the druid spell list?

>>52338269
>>52338275
Okay but how big are they compared to what people usually refer to as kaiju? Are they as big as a modern house or are they as tall as a skyscraper?

>>52338281
Pretty rare unless you take something like Feyspeaker to expand the spell list.

>>52338268
GOTTA GET DOWN
DOWN TO THE GROUND
SARENRAE'S BROWN

>>52338272
I've never been gay or a woman but I can't help but think their gays and women feel off as well.

>>52338292
>A bipedal kaiju typically stands between 100 and 200 feet in height; quadrupedal kaiju are half as tall.

Significantly taller than a house at about 10-20 stories tall.

>>52338292
One of them is Godzilla, and he's Godzilla-sized.

>>52338269
Not only do they have Kaijus, but I think that it's canon that they have Sentai and Kamen Rider types that summon giant mechas to fight them

>>52338194
Isn't he trapped in the Worldwide though?

Also, how is he still around even, and where the heck did he get into the picture?

I mean, the first he ever shows up as far as we know was when he stole the World Breaker from the Taldor Exploration Fleet, such was significantly a land time after Jatembe first poked his head out. I mean, I would've expected him o have rebuilt much of civilization and infrastructure during his time on Golarion, to the point shit-grod shouldn't have even been able to get a huge Oona foothold as he did in Mwangi. Also, the Short seemed robust just fine in nor being bothered by that glorified apeman

>>52338241
When and how did they get there and how come the Magaambya or even Jatembe himself never fixed it?
Heck, last I checked here weren't major portals to Rovagug there in Mwangi, most of those are in Casmoron, just some random gates to Alison and the other planets

>>52338185
Honestly, I'd be entertained if /pol/ found out, started praising Paizo, which caused them to freak out and actually spend effort and time to fix up that whole swathe of Garund.

>>52338292
>>52338324
Mogaru (Not-Godzilla) is supposed to be 140 ft (43m) tall and 300 ft (91m) long. So yeah, about the size of older versions of Godzilla.

>>52338304
>this faggot has never been gay

Seriously, queer?

>>52338340
>Worldwide
Worldscape.

My phone's auto-correct is conspiring against me I swear.

>>52338268
This would make for a much better Starfinder.

>>52338105
Just like Pendragon, and I'm super okay with that.

>>52338392

Stupid as it is, I still can't help but chuckle at the idea of doing a big Pathfinder campaign that ends with the party getting thrown into a Starfinder campaign where the BBEG's evil is LAW.

>>52338432
>FOOLISH PALADIN

>>52338432
Stupid? Anon, that sounds great.

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>those PLD NPCs
>Literally the Chosen Undead
>OMG TEH SEIBAH!
>Literally Jeanne D'arc
>a trap
>Edgehard 2: Edge Harder
>Literally a cuck

>>52338432
>the party lost in time meets another party who are lost in space
>insert your favorite sci-fi game party that you're in here

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>>52338449

>In a setting rife with unfamiliar classes and technology, one of the closest friends the lost-in-time paladin makes is a savage tech-barbarian who is a swordsman of comparable skill

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>>52338476
Someone needs to make Gilly Rays

>>52338159
I'm working on a cute oracle RIGHT NOW, Anon. It's going to get comfy in there.

>>52338476
i have no faith in that game, and it's not because of the setting. that's the sad part of the story. it's gonna be shit with a shit gm. i wanted to believe it could have potential but now i just won't post an app. glad i've not.

sure it's gonna have rape and stuff, but it's not gonna have a good drive or a good story. it's gonna be boring, full of inconsistencies and poorly managed.

>>52338556
Oh, are you the Moroi-born Oracle from last thread? You're applying to Shardwalker?

Can I get a link to Shardwalker?

>>52338585
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/70552/shardwalkers

>>52338041
ur a faggot

>>52338575
That's the plan!

Is the quality of PLD apps testament to the facts:
-All publicity is good publicity?
-Perverts are more dedicated to their craft?

>>52338628
perhaps it is just the thirstlords riding out once more after not getting in any other game, or just being desirous for more. They've got practice by now.

>>52338645
>>52338628
I channeled my angst over my failed marriage into mine.

>>52338624
>look at the other apps
>they're all STRGUYS
W-well, you got your choice of who to be princess carried by.

>>52338628
I think the chargen rules including background forced people to think harder than usual. One complaint about Legacy apps people make is their lack of attachment to the campaign, it's hard to claim that of any complete app here. Filter and all.

But yeah mostly perverts.

>>52338571
I have one of the popular apps so I'm not withdrawing and I want it to be good but I feel like if it's good it will be in spite of the gm rather than because of them

>>52338628
>>52338645
>>52338663

I put a ton of effort into mine because I've been idling around /pfg/ for a while and still haven't been accepted into a game.

Just like how I generally worked pretty hard on my HR, Dragons 2 and WotRaunchy apps.

>>52338722
Lysander pls...

>>52338722
Cashmere?

>>52338738
And that's why you won't get into this one either.

>>52338688
I already have a CHAfag in another game, I wanted to make something completely different.

>>52338272
Hey now. there's nothing liberal about the way paizo acts. Nor conservative, either. Theirs is the "for the greater good" demand that *others* sacrifice themselves that is so utterly typical of false activist fascism-controlled puppets.

>That's thoughtcrime and you should feel bad
>Saying these things is unacceptable because someone might feel hurt
>Check your privilege

They act both as a way to veil ever nastier restrictions on freedoms, and as a more direct scapegoat to generate backlashes demanding ever nastier restrictions on freedoms in response to their "bleeding-heart demands".

>>52338774
That would imply Paizo is smart enough to be part of a conspiracy.

>>52338571
>>52338722
Why do people have so little faith in this guy. His inexperience is showing but I don't see other typical red flags on the game pace. I don't trust Discord talk either way though.

>>52338304
They're heavy-handed is why.

They're not actual-gay, they're "you don't get to watch beast wars today because there's an afterschool very special episode of blossom about this today:" gay.

They're even completely accepted/tolerated/included, except for - again just like those shitty things that used to ruin our cartoons - like ONE person or inconsequentially-small-group that disapproves and therefore the entire country needs to learn how wrong it's always been.

>DHB interested in Legacy of Fire AND WWW
Might as well not apply

>>52338552
Or Billie Mays.

>>52338826
I hope he gets in a game. I need more second hand DHB. DON'T FUCK THIS UP GUY. IT'S NOT JUST YOU HERE NOW, I GOT MY WHERE ON YOU.

>>52338814
the best comparison i have for this gm and how the game will be is a train conductor that tries to build tracks as he goes along without even so much as a manual instruction for the train he's riding in the first place.

>>52338804
I think the word "puppets" there implies anon suggests they aren't.

>>52338870
>wallaceandgrommet.webm

>>52338814
>Why do people have so little faith in this guy. His inexperience is showing but I don't see other typical red flags on the game pace.

He's Aisha's creator.

Time and again Vult has proven he's egotistical, immature, thin skinned, and generally an attention whore. I don't think he's flexible enough to adapt whenever the wants/needs of the players conflict with his own.

I hope I'm wrong, I never want someone to have a bad game; but you'd have to be blind to miss all the red flags.

>>52338895
>He's Aisha's creator.
Who?

>>52338895
>Aisha
Story? I'm pretty in and out with this general.

>>52338903
Short version: Dragons 1 and 2 app, had some potential, but then the player started a shitton of drama over everything from mechanical minutiae to imperfect reviews to avowed nerfs. Then they started up PLD, and started drama over that.

>>52338919
Was also an app to molthune and a few others.

>tfw want to GM a pfg game but have only ever GM'd two sessions, and never played over text
Doesn't help that I'm a slow at typing which causes a level of anxiety over running a text game.

>>52338857
Chinese LISA had another session right? Did it get green texted?

>>52338688
I'm excited to see which strong man turns out to be comfiest.

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>>52338757
Haha, zing.

Kill me.

You know what some of my favorite moments are as a GM?

You find your players getting really cocky, trying to solve everything by kicking the door down and what not. Then you give them an enemy that is much stronger than them. You demonstrate he is strong. You give them the opportunity to back down. Then you wait, because you know they aren't gonna back down. Then the fight starts and they get their teeth kicked in.

God damn that is satisfying watching players realize they're outmatched.

>>52339015
That's rude.

I'm a man of class. I set up a trap dungeon.

>>52339015
Oh hi copypasta, nice to see you around again (no it isn't).

>>52339015
Conversely, nothing sucks more than having to absolutely destroy one player to have any chance of challenging the other three at all.

>>52338962
From what I can see, the first one is a house-husband in disguise but quite possibly half a midlife-crisis away from 'coming out'.

The second one wants true love, but he may need his other half to be a fiery rival to find it.

The third sounds like you're marrying the village handyman, and you'll probably be loved and content, but it will never be a grand life or sweep you off your feet.

The fourth sounds more like he needs some kind of caring older-lady to help him get back on his feet. If this were a manga he'd be a shoe-in for who-falls-for-the-widowed-landlady.

I don't understand this app process, can someone explain?

>>52339015
>This episode of genreblind GM thinking they're smart again

Here's the thing, every time.
Unless you really explicitly say that backing down is an option, or the campaign has already set precedent of it, players will not believe that you as a GM genuinely want them to back down.
You know why? Because heroic media is completely filled with stories of heroes defying the odds, going against warnings that would make a common man flee, and pulling out unlikely victories.

They will take your narrative warnings as just building up tension.

This isn't even a case of "ha ha stupid players thinking they're in a hero fantasy": they're playing DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS. You need to outright make it clear they're not in the default story tone they expect.

Again, there's nothing wrong with enemies being too tough. It's your failure to communicate that properly as a GM and blaming it on player stupidity.

>>52339015
One day they not only skipped the dungeon I'd created because that was probably just a bear cave, but proceeded to completely mangle all three hooks I'd subsequently given them for another adventure, taking it somehow as an indication that adventure lay across the sea.

They ended up in one of those giant desert countries (map isn't open, can't remember names) hunting down ancient undead in order to protect the dwindling unicorns in an oasis (I don't know where they got that idea, I never said anything about unicorns, I don't even know how it got to that, I worry they might have mistaken dromedaries for the things somehow.).

>>52336800
In Warcraft lore wasn't everything except for orcs decended from titanforged? It was the whole curse of flesh that made everything what they were.

>>52339096
>>52339045
pls tell me I didn't just reply to pasta

>>52339096
I'll give you a second better example:
Backing down, or worse yet surrendering, tends to mean the party loses everything (and forget "getting back" to WBL down the road), and gets to sit in on a fucking torture session.

Hell with some really bad GMs they'll even have gotten executed the one time.

Then we include the fact that in pathfinder, like most of the d20 system, if it's too powerful for you to fight, it almost automatically ALSO is too perceptive for you to hide from and too mobile to run away from. Running away becomes literally wasted turns where they get massacred like some poor kid holding L+R in the middle of a boss-fight and not noticing how it keeps going "CAN'T RUN AWAY!!!", while if they stand and fight, they have a chance at natural 20s or some kind of lucky upset.


It's kind of like how everybody gets ONE "the coat-check stole your guns" and afterwards everytime the shadowrunners are asked to disarm to enter a club or meeting their answer is a hail of rockets.

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>>52339015
Backing down will get you murderfucked.
Courage gives you hope of turning that 1% into 100%

>>52339136
>>52339157
This really needs to be noted more, got fuck is escape a shit option in this game.

>>52339096
I've seen the players backing down that way immediately result in a disgruntled GM having them end their days in a dungeon because they're cowards who didn't even know they were supposed to be the heroes.

What many GMs believe are hints and clues are often *only* hints and clues for someone who quite literally has the entire story in front of them. Stuff like "you should've noticed since that insignia is the same one you find all over their base" being spoken, when the party has never even seen or heard of the base, for example.

>>52339098
>everything except the Orcs

Not quite.

Humans, Vrykul, Dwarves, Gnomes, Tol'vir, Anubisath, and Mogu all come from Titan-Forged.

Trolls are native to the planet, and the Zandalari were the first Trolls. Lower castes split into the Forest, Sand, Jungle, Dark, and Ice Trolls. Night Elves are Dark Trolls altered by living near the Well of Eternity, Highborne are noble Night Elves, High Elves are diurnal shrunken Highborne, Blood Elves are /slightly/ Fel-touched High Elves, Satyrs are demonic Highborne, Naga are Old God-warped Highborne, and Nightborne are Nightwell-edited Highborne.

Tauren, Pandaren, Furbolg, and the other talking animals descend from Wild Gods of the Emerald Dream, and may have a couple generations in between the modern form and the original Wild God. For instance, it goes Bull/Ox/Cow Wild God (probably Niuzao) -> Yaungol -> Tauren -> Highmountain Tauren & Taunka.

Orcs and Draenei are both aliens. Orcs come from Draenor and descend through multiple generations of things starting with the Colossals and ending up with the Ogres at one point. Draenei are just non-demonic Eredar who went into exile from Argus when the Legion took over and all the other Eredar went full Fel.

Forsaken are undead humans, Worgen are druidically-cursed humans, and Goblins are a native race altered by the brain-boosting mineral/metal/whatever called Kajamite.

>>52339205
>and all these things can fuck

Praise Blizzard.

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How should a tiefling descendent of Erinyes act?

As a bonus question, what's the most interesting devil granddaddies for tieflings?

>>52339234
They can, but do you really want to?

>>52339249
Do you not?

>>52339249
gods I hate myself for admitting this but some of the goblin girls are fucking hot when they don't talk.

>>52339107
I'm afraid so.

>>52339238
The influence of an erinyes might make them irritable, legalistic, vengeful, spiteful, hidebound, or fiercely loyal. Any or all of those, really.

But really, the more interesting thing is how they take one or a few of those traits/urges and work around it. Like the descendant of a demon channeling destructive urges into art or an oni-spawn trying to control their appetites.

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How would you have a young wizard who is studying how love works act? He won't want love himself, because that will corrupt his research.

>>52339312
Well first he'd need to make himself immune to both being loved and being tempted to love.

>>52339312
A shipper, an incredibly rude shipper with no sense of ethics.

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>>52339157
I keep trying to tell this general that, but they keep saying "bravery and courage just get you killed, why try."

They'll never be the key to victory like that.

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>>52339312
Like she does.
Asking everyone. All the time. In public.

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>>52339312
What about one that may or may not have fallen in love and is doing statistical research to demonstrate love?

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>>52339157
>>52339354
Are you so sure of that?

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>>52339358
For example

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>>52339372
Always.

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>>52339372
Victory goes to those with courage

>>52339375
what

>>52339367
That is what inspired me
>>52339335
>>52339358
I was thinking along the same line. He would ask just about anyone anything.
"You love your queen, but what kind of love do you feel for your concubine?"

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>>52339401
But your courage has already failed you, anon. There will be no victory in strength.

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>>52339412
My fellow gentleman.

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>>52338950
I've been holding back on the greentext because the games have diverged and I know some of them in both parties read this.

A quick rundown of what happened without spoilers...

>Party got in a bad fight with the "law enforcement" last session and surrendered
>Gunslinger and Arminger decided to throw their weapons on the roof
>Law enforcement took that poorly and hit them all in the joints
>Party gets hit with str/dex damage. Gunslinger and Arminger taking the worst of it.
>Party wakes up in pain and tries to get home
>run into opportunist thugs with a hired Tengu.
>DHB throws web to stop most of them, but Tengu gets through
>Arminger goes down. He started with 1/3 HP.
>Party ended up killing 2 enemies and running from the fight.

Then some other stuff happened. The party is certainly building up notoriety.

>>52339433
I was going to make him really excited when talking to people about it, but fairly reserved doing anything else.

>>52339426
See, then there's this faggot.

Which are the most dangerous and unfair monsters?

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>>52339404
The Vangray's AI literally drags people on stage and asks them what love is when they gain ace status. Or about who they love. In front of everyone.

It's not unreasonable to think they'll know (gods do they ever not) when some of them are literally screaming about it in their attacks.

>>52339426
Have you ever courage'd so hard, that you crushed a sun with a hammer made of space ships, while piloting a robot lion?

>>52339443
Give us the dirt on DHB! What'd he do! I need it in excruciating fucking detail.

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>>52339503
>?!
>...What did DHB do?
>Witch-hunt Anon can't stop crying!

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>>52339433
I gotta ask, source?

>>52339456
Have him not get excited so much from talking about it as when he thinks he's found a data-point. Foot in Mouth disease. The kind of thing that ends up being in those Tales games overworld map skits.

>Hey, Grognar, you've been stealing sideways glances at the cleric ever since you saw her in the baths the other day. Are YOU in love with someone now?

>Mary, does everyone pleasure themselves at the thought of their loved ones?

>She loves her little brother? I thought you guys said that was taboo.

>>52339543
>Dorlen, the elf says that she loves you, how does this make you feel?

>>52339533
I don't want to witch hunt I just want to know about his character.

>>52339443
Tell us about DHB's character, that won't be spoilers.

>>52339543
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/rikei-ga-koi-ni-ochita-no-de-shoumeishitemita-r19204

>>52339488
Even the robots ran on courage. And not just the piloted ones.

Also, if you play @3, it's the God of Abraham you use it on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLMTOiNwtGk

>>52339488
That kids show got... really, really dark.

>>52339648
The first finisher is literally called hell and heaven

>>52339443
who's farther along in the adventure?

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>>52339729
The finishers get countered. The transformation sequence starts needing outside protection because they start being able to break through the forcefield. Hell and Heaven was literally killing the pilot so they had to build alternative finishers. The helper bots get disfigured and dismembered more and more.

And then, then we get to Final... jesus christ.

>>52339729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFYZZtnH-E

I have a cleric of Erastil in my kingmaker game that wants to push for legalizing gay marriage is Erastil even ok with gay butt stuff?

>>52339456
Phone posting atm.

I did give a summary of DHB's Nettle like 3 weeks ago. I'll try to find it later.

>>52339831
He won't punish it, but in that case they should at least raise some orphans and be a proper part of their community if they wanna be "in good standing" to like, get spells and shit with him.

>>52339868
GG looks like we're gonna have gay marriage in the middle ages

>>52339615
>>52339850
Yep... Sure am phone posting

>>52339926
Well despite the forum complaints Erastil isn't an evil god. Even if he frowns on a practice, if it's not HARMING anyone...

However there's no way he'd LIKE gay marriage. It can avoid a direct clash with his portfolio if they at least make up for it, but the childless fashionista type gays that move into the city (the less common type as far as I'm aware) aren't going to be getting powers from him anytime soon. And that's only natural: it's what he's a god of.

Take a goddess of childbirth as another example: A gay or lesbian who won't even at least take a token wife and pump out some heirs to ensure the continuation of his bloodline because familial and species duties "trigger them" is not going to reach paladinhood. One can be running counter to a deity's portfolio even without it being pharasma vs the undead.

>>52340034
but he's not going to have his followers burn all the gays alive or anything

>>52340053
No because he was never evil. Nor is not approving "evil" no matter what some tumbltards might scream about privileges.

It's okay to don't like thing.

>>52340053
Can't have gay uncles if you murder them all.

>>52340053
He's probably gonna just grumble about how what they do in their house is their business, not his.

Does taking cure potion rectally heal faster

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>>52340067
so basically indifferent

>>52340098
Maybe a little uncomprehending as to why them boys ain't right. He's Hank Hill with antlers, well-meaning but prefers traditional ways.

>>52340103
ok I think I get it now

>>52340103
I tell you what

>>52340116
>Ah just don't get it Dale. What's so good about some other man's rear end that they just won't even find themselves a decent wife? We all do little sacrifices for our families, so who raised these kids to think that that's asking too much of them?

>>52340103
this analogy makes me actually like him now

>>52340152
Puts all the hate for him that happened in perspective doesn't it.

>>52340143
Who would Dale be among the Gods, anyhow?

>>52340178
pretty sure erastil had some servant buddies most of whom could shapeshift

Y'know though, about Erastil, I always thought it was more about family than anything else, y'know? So it's not that gay couples are bad, it's just that they should adopt and take care of a child in need, that kinda stuff.

Oh sure he'd probably prefer you'd marry, but if a bunch of dykes raise a child that would be an orphan or dead otherwise, why does he care?

>>52340103
>Worldwound expands
>Erastil's face when
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGcdYB8vF_c

>>52339503
>>52339533
>>52339615

Quoting Myself from the 1st of March

Sure uh... Nettle the doctor.

>Greentext about Daichi and the Gold Dragons was him
>Likes people alive, and has deep respect for when they die. He's buried like 2 thugs so far.
>Parental figure to children. Takes care of their health and is stern vs poor behavior
>Meticulous doctor as shown by the extent he went to clean up the mess.
>Similar to points above, found some children who talked to the dead family (They would feed kids who told them good stories), and made sure they didn't have eye problems like the bleeding eyes of the murder victims.
>Gave some food to a PC who roleplayed that he forgot breakfast.
>Also gave some to the rook from the same ration.

You can find this in archives, I'm sure.

what's daikitsu like my bard just converted to her faith and I can barely find any info even my DM is coming up short on info about her?

>>52339730
>Who's further along in the adventure?

Thursday is 1 in game day and 1 session ahead of Wednesday. I started Thursday a week earlier and both have skipped one session so far..

Wednesday is the one with DHB.

>>52340269
Also my bard is currently trying to marry into a Tian Xian merchant family to gain more ties to Tian Xian do you think he stands a chance?

>>52340269
>>52340303
There really isn't any info on Daikitsu. None of the Tian gods get any more information than you'd find on Pathfinderwiki. I'd suggest just approximate from the nearest real-world equivalent, maybe one of those 7 Gods of Luck.

As for the other thing, you're probably good. Unlike real asians, they probably won't be any more xenophobic than most places in Golarion considering the kind of weird shit everybody's got to deal with on a daily basis.

>>52340356
chill hope she doesn't turn out to be a man eating spider

>>52340200
Community is structure of mutual cooperation
It is the big picture that matters
As long as kids survive and the villages has food