Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>51992866
First for Khorne and Flesh Hounds!

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First for the wolf time

>>51992866
How do I convert the codex epubs into pdfs? Most converters get stuck part way through.

>>51992885
>>51992890
WOLVES VS DOGS
PLACE YOU BETS

>>51992890
Khorne beat you, ha!

Third for why doesn't Typhus have eternal warrior

>>51992910
Because not even GW care about nurgle

>>51992910
Literally only Abbadon and Khârn have EW, iirc. Not even Bloodthirsters have it.

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>>51992885
>Actual cute and adorable skin pupper

>>51992890
Versus mutant furry yiff

I can see why Khorne won.

>>51992940
They should just switch his warlord trait to the EW one. Then lower his price by 30 pts. Did I fix him?

>tfw want to play Space Marines but not sure if I want to mix my regular marines and burning of prospero legionnaires together
>tfw should buy expensive as fuck deimos pattern vehicles from Forge World
Also does it make any sense fluff-wise to field a Sicaran battle tank in 40k?

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>>51992953
>non-ironically uses yiff as a noun
>actually says pupper
>probably says doggo too
remove yourself from this existence

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hello requesting that one picture of an Eldar with a load on her forehead, she's saying

>why do you always aim for my rune?

asking for a friend.

>>51992972
IMPERIAL ARMOUR 2, WARMACHINES OF THE ADEPTUS ASTARTES.

Nigger, it's literally one of the already available supplements. Just grab that book and run either of the two in 40k in your space marine armies. They're essentially moth-balled relics that the chapter brings into combat if the need arises.

>>51992972
Anon you're retarded.

MkIII is a rarer pattern of power armor, but power armor nonetheless, and is still produced in small quantities.

>should be deimos pattern vehicles
Why?

>does it make sense to run a sicaran
Yes

>>51992984
>t. Triggered Space Yiff
Mad that you needed Khorne's power to beat Magnus?
:^)

Anyone have some basic 1k Guard lists? thinking of starting with the normal spess men but I have no idea what a standard list looks like

>>51993016
>t. Triggered Space Yiff
M8 I'm not him and I don't give a shit about SW but Reddit-tier dognaming is a cancer that doesn't belong here.

>>51993016
Triggered furries aside puppet is some leddit tier shit

>>51992994
>Go to /aco/
>check their 40k thread
>if not there, reverse image search the one with her smiling at you
>find an old archived thread
>find the pic

>>51993042
Nigga that's been here for a long while now.

>>51992997
From what I read on Forge World's website it looked like that stuff was Horus Hearsay exclusive.
>>51993016
If I'm only gonna be running legionnaires, it would make sense to have Deimos pattern vehicles with them.
I mean, I have three full squads of Mk III armor, it would feel weird to mix in regular tactical marines.

Also I can't choose which chapter to run

>>51993071
No, it's in Imperial Armor books as well.

Not really, since Mars pattern was around as well. Just depends, do you want to do 30k, 40k, or both?

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>>51993052
>that's been here for a long while now
>that makes it okay
Stockholm syndrome in action

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Among the Alpha Legion Warlord traits...
>Faceless Commander
>Once per game, at the start of any of your turns, you can choose a friendly character on the battlefield that is from an Alpha Legion Detachment or Formation and has the same unit type as your Warlord. Swap the position of this model with that of your Warlord.

Does this mean he could swap with an Aspiring Champion or a Cultist Champion? If so, would the Champion then become an independent character? Would he count as joining a unit the Warlord swapped out of? Would he become his own unit? Really needs clarification

>>51993108
I ain't saying it is, I'm just saying it don't bother me.

>>51993120
>Yes
>No
>No
>Yes

>>51993108
It's why you're here at all.

>>51993120

>Really needs clarification
If you read the rulebook it is already clarified

>>51993120
Going by RAW, both units would have to spend however long moving towards each other so their respective characters could move back into coherency with their original units.

>but that's complete shit!
Master-crafted ruleswriting from the great minds that bought you A Tide of Traitors. :^)

>>51993143
What section of the rulebook do you mean

>>51993100
No one here plays 30k, so I guess I wanna do 40k.

>>51993187
Then you can do it with any chapter, really.

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r8 my list friendos.
Can I even play with formations only? Never even played a game, just using what I have with what I found to be possible in the list builderinb4 read codex/rules

>>51993146
This is the impression I got, that without actually laying down anything happening to them after swapping, by the rules its just moving two models horrifically out of position

>>51993219
Yes, formations are detachments of their own.

And read your codex and rules.

>>51993219
Seems like a standard Cron list alright.
>Can I even play with formations only?
Yes
>inb4 read codex/rules
I don't actually play Necrons so I don't know if you've made a subtle mistake

>>51993226
Sadly, it was probably written with switching around ICs in mind, since in the retarded narrative games GW thinks the fanbase plays everyone takes like 2-3 HQs.

>>51993244
>tfw can take 8 HQs in a CAD
>only 1 per formation
WHY

>>51993244
Oh and let's not forget the possibility of swapping models when either of them are in combat

A bit overwhelmed with all my choices for an Inquisitor and his retinue, everything looks fun. Is there a few optimal ways to set them up or just build whatever?

>>51993303
>Haha I'm going to crush this stupid aspiring champion
>Suddenly pimped out warlord shows up

Top kek.

>>51993303
Well as far as I know, that's actually an easier issue to resolve. You switch the exact positions of the models, so if you swapped your Warlord into a combat, he'd be in base contact with an enemy model and count as being locked in combat with them, and the guy you swapped out would no longer be in combat unless he was the champ of the unit that was locked there, in which case he'd move 3" every assault phase until he reached the combat again... At least he wouldn't be able to be shot, and if you're really really sneaky could steal an objective that happened to lie in his path while he made his way over.

>>51993309
An """""optimal""""" build isn't really your priority, since the optimal way to build your =I= dudes is to keep them cheap.
>no fun allowed Inquisitor
>power armor, rad grenades, psyker, force sword

>no fun allowed warband
>3 Acolytes with special weapons (plasma if using codex:inquisition since it's cheaper)
>a couple of Acolyte bullet catchers
>carapace armor for those fucks if plasma/you feel like splurging
>one Psyker to act as a WC battery

Just build something fluffy.

>>51993205
I know, but I can't choose
I like both Imperial Fists and Iron Hands, but painting yellow sucks, and my Sisters of Battle are already black.

>>51993325
>You thought I was a mere cultist? HAHA! I was a Daemon Prince all along! I've only been inflicting paltry S3 AP- attacks to DECEIVE YOU!

>>51993367
Crimson Fists are Imperial Fists without the yellow. They even share the same emblems. Alternatively, invent an IF successor chapter.

>>51993244
They managed to force it for lords of war and battle companies etc. Because God forbid you want to reasonably field Dante without spending over 300 points.

Chances are their new primarch won't be able to share a field with the smurfs chapter master with LoW rules as they are.

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>>51993229
>>51993236
Thank you both anons. I'm reading the codex and the rules, but without playing it's gonna take more time to memorise everything, just wanted to know if there was any mistake or something outright stupid.

>>51993108
thanks for the tip. I can't find it though, it doesn't show up anywhere. Found out that the art is of Autarch Kayleth tho.

>>51993370
TO SUBTLE FOR YOU!!

>>51993341
>enemy just stands there watching as a chaos champion slowly inches their way across the battlefield in proper dueling stance

Also, I don't think he could snag an objective due to being in assault. Realistically though, any HQ you dump in that fight is going to end it pretty quickly, which means you're back to the two squads needing to dash back to meet up with each-other.

Also, could this be used with that one Warpsmith formation that allows you to take a Maulerfiend/Helbrute as a character?

Let's say GW announced a new ork codex tomorrow. Would that be good or just make things worse?

And I know there's no new ork shit for a while. Don't bother responding if you can't into hypotheticals.

>>51993424
If you take 2 of them you could make helbrutes fly over the table.

>>51993434
Anything would be better than what they have now?

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Feedback appreciated as always.

>>51991991
>So they've got Necron durability
For a significantly higher PPM cost, yeah. It's not like FNP MEQ's aren't widely available for cheaper or like those MEQ's are particularly great. I could see making it only kick in on failed armor, to ensure that anti-MEQ weaponry is still more effective against them, and to, in a roundabout way, account for the inability of automatons to hide behind cover.
>Have most of a helldrake's main gun in each of their squads
The Exalted Flamer weapons. WC2 means it has a significant opportunity cost.
> Better Cultists than Cultists
For 7 PPM versus 4 PPM. If you just want cheap bodies, Cultists are still the better choice, especially with their formation.
> Get the strongest upgrade in their book for free
Pretty much. It's still got a hefty tax requirement.
> And get the strongest thing Chaos currently has.
The Warband is not the strongest thing Chaos has, and it's not like you can't already take a Thousand Sons warband. Death Guard marines would still be significantly more durable and mobile.

>>51993424
>I don't think he could snag an objective due to being in assault
He can. Being locked in combat doesn't impact your ability to hold objectives.

>yfw the edgy slow-walking champ has objsec and just steals the objective from the opponent's elites choice, who are too fucking terrified to even shoot him

>could this be used with that one Warpsmith formation that allows you to take a Maulerfiend/Helbrute as a character?
Yup.
>teleports Helbrute behind u
>heh.... nothin personnel loyalist

>>51993451
>Waaagh Ghazkull.pdf
It can always get worse.

>>51993361
It's very hard to make a fluffy warband that's not also a points-sink that accomplishes nothing.

>>51993492
Exactly. My point was that if you build for fluff you're going to end up with a squad that's very confused as to what its role is supposed to be and therefore will probably underperform.
Unless its fluff is just a team of stormtroopers or something.

>>51993434
It'll only get better if they get someone who actually likes Orks to write the rules. It isn't simply a matter of landing in the middle of a period where overpowered rules are getting made. The poor excuse for an Ork Decurion is a perfect example.

It'd probably be a bit better now if Traitor Legions is anything to go off of, since that was rather well done, but the Ork codex would need more than that sort of patchjob.

>>51993434
>Let's say GW announced a new ork codex tomorrow. Would that be good or just make things worse?

Infinitely worse because we're right at the end of an edition. Which means we once again get left behind in the dust once 8th hits and stabilizes, and GW figures out how to write codices for it.

You want your codex to come out around the mid-point of an edition. If you're near the end or beginning, it's bad news. The Ork 5th ed codex came out at the end of 4th, and our 7th ed codex was the first of 7th.

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>>51993120
>>and has the same unit type as your warlord
Uh, doesn't that prevent the confusing terribleness of swapping regular characters with independent characters or worse, walkers? I mean, if you're Infantry (character) that'd be the only thing you could swap with.

Eternal Crusade is giving away keys to play in its f2p beta nonsense, its free so I guess that's .. something.

https://na.alienwarearena.com/ucf/show/1492046/boards/contest-and-giveaways-global/Giveaway/warhammer-40-000-eternal-crusade-closed-beta-key-giveaway

They were giving it away in the Humble Bundle not that long ago so I guess they're desperate to inflate that steamcharts population.

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>>51993553

forgot my shitty picture

>>51993108
I found it by going on /aco/, reverse google image searching Autarch Kayleth ludes led me to a sketchy Russian website where the image was. thanks.

>>51993553
>tfw wanted to buy it on Humble Bundle
>two friends literally do not care about it and wouldn't buy it even in the bundle
>tfw didn't get it as a result
>tfw forgot about it for a bit until having a change of heart and deciding to buy it anyway
>tfw bundle ended
I guess I wasn't going to play it much anyway

So did anyone else like me get a beta key for DoW 3?

>>51993553
Well, it's a nice game and probably the only one where Orks can actually shine. Not because they're particularly good or anything, just because the kids play either LSM or CSM, while you can have/need actually competent teammates with orks.

Is there any way to make melee CSM terminators work?

>>51993502
Yeah. Over a long time of playing inquisition with things, I've grown to accept that 5E GK book forward, inquisitorial retinues will never be both cool AND useful at the same time. After many games of incrementally reducing the cost and list impact of a henchmen squad I decided I'd rather have a unit on the field that does cool things than just looks cool.

Which, IMO - chambers militant is the way to go. Terminator Malleus with GK terminators, nade and blade or conversion beamer Xenos with choppy or snipey Deathwatch respectively, or Hereticus with sisters of a personal flavor choice.

Tempestus are fine too, especially now that you can join them in a valkyrie (and are my personal choice)

>>51993568

Its mediocre and ruined by server latency, retarded population full of elitists who think they are ''''skilled'''' and devs who aren't transparent about any reasons for their 'balance' patches that inevitable ruins omething.

Why aren't there big armored dudes powered by chaos that weren't at some point marines in 40k?

>>51993596
Because regular dudes end up as fodder /meatshields for superdudes.

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Not all DPs are marines

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2 Monoliths, a Morkanaut, and a riptide. COME AT ME BRO
1850 legal list. Rate my memes. I own all these models and more.

>>51993622
No nobs in the naut/10

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>>51993596
>>51993618
And Bloodthirsters were never mortals, as well as Skulltaker being a powered up Herald with a 3+ and EW from his artifact cloak.

Though, that's the best I can do, sorry.

>>51993618
which makes even stranger the absence of chaos warriors running around

>>51993648
I like how his axe is painted like a jawbone

>>51992905
Wolves will win, but at a higher cost than the victory they earned.

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>>51993578

This is true, same iwith Eldar. The Space Marines aren't even that boring to play, though I do prefer Space Marine's multiplayer for astartes death matches.

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>>51993728
>the Imperium won, but it was totally pyrrhic so it's really more like a loss!
40k in a nutshell.

>>51993596

Because 97% of all traitors are flaming curbstomping faggots who don't even have ATSKNF, 90-95% of which have never reached a higher tier than Chaos Space Marine. Very few throughout the millenia have ever reached warlord or higher, and of those a much higher percentage were killed or turned into spawns than those who succeeded to become Daemon Princes.

And daemon ascension is a career dead end anyway. They'll never surpass a Daemon Primarch or a named Greater Daemon.

>>51993758
>same iwith Eldar
Can you elaborate? I heard Eldar were shit, then got buffed into being cheese. Do all the tryhards play them, or are they a faction only used by people who know their shit?

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>>51993758
Fukken Eldar. I have a hard time hitting them with my shoota, since they're so fast, agile and have small hitboxes. And their damage output is quite massive, they just chew through armour and health like nothing.

Rise of Primarch rules leak when?

>>51993838
Probably about seven days from now, we usually get actually good leaks from anons who get the book a day or two early due to shipping peculiarities.

Until then calm down and stop spamming this shit.

>>51993788

Eldar have always been strong, their exclusive player base (why would you do this when you can have one of each faction and level them up equally) moans and pisses itself whenever they change or buff any other faction. The fact is, there aren't a lot of Eldar players, and most are extremely unskilled and extremely arrogant because 'muh space elven superiority lore reasons lolol mon'keigh = monkey so funneh xD' is all the fuel they need to wave their dicks around.

I say this as an exclusive LSM player who has dealt with the lion's share of newbie idiots dragging me to defeat after defeat across 300+ hours of play time.

I switched to Eldar for the last campaign, and a second time this campaign post-rebalance patch. Eldar are horrifyingly strong. Their players are either newbies or terrible regulars. The team killing is rampant. No one heals or resurrects you. Healers will still try to run into melee despite ranged lethality going up. No one kills vehicles. Everyone tries to play for KDR and personal XP, not winning the match. Some people will afk and bitch all match instead of actually playing, a sight I rarely ever seen on the other three factions, because you didn't do one specific task they demanded immediately like a good little lapdog.

But their classes? Fragile, but fast as fuck, have crazy hard hitboxes to land a hit on, they basically dominate melee because of how fast and powerful their classes hit while also having very difficult to read animations and lots of iframes on their dodges, which also have huge distances they cover. Their dakka is amazing. Their mobility is amazing. Their choppy is amazing. Their 'fragility' matters little with how fast and hard they go.

Basically, the players suck shit and have proved it time and time again when they fail campaigns and basic teamwork like this.

>>51992866
So apparently everyone's Spiritual Liege is up and about again because of the Eldar? I stop paying attention for a few months and crazy shit happens.

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>>51993882
Marneus Calgar's always been around though? Robert Gullman got resurrected though.

>>51993596
Because they'd be essentially identical to marines anyways? Hell, there's a good chance they'd just become marines thanks to warp magic anyways.

>>51993788
see
>>51993812

Plus, eldar by far have the lowest population in the game, so you know the team playing eldar likely has at least a few players who are talking on VOIP, and the rest of them at least know what theyre doing.

If anyone is on the fence about Eternal Crusade, I recommend getting it. I have about 120 hours, and I enjoy it. The balance is acceptable (except for eldar), the netcode isn't amazing but at least it functions fine, the maps are unpolished but all of them are fun, the characterization and animations are well done... overall its an enjoyable time. It does NOT hold up the the initial promises, but I say it's worth the price of admission (if there even is a price anymore).

>>51993872
>>51993900
>Eldar are fucking broken, don't suffer from their ostensible weaknesses, and are held back only by the incompetence of their playerbase
>Orks are bro-tier
>SM/CSM are played by casual COD kiddies and are by far the most populous faction with the lowest average skill level
Wow it's like I'm really playing tabletop

>>51993900
>he rest of them at least know what theyre doing

Ha ha ha yeah I call bullshit on that. These retards are WAY worse than the Orks and LSM. The amount of teamkilling and lack of coordination on Eldar is unreal. Its like all their guilds gave up and died even before the last campaign started.

Its amazing because their faction is fun and strong imo. I don't see how they are losing besides boredom.

>>51993872
Heavy Bolter can do wonders against them in defensive situations, when you can just shoot into a mass of them, from what I know from my CSM experience. Playing against Eldar as an Ork is suffering though. Only good teammates make it even wothwhile to stay for a second round against them.

>>51993882

Mechanicum merged MKVIII armor with dreadnought parts to create the ultimate battle life support machine in the form of a weapon that can surpass Metal Gear. Aeldari bailed the humans out of a tough bind and got them to Ultarmar so that Guilliman can get his upgrade and stop the Imperium from total collapse. Guilliman will now lead the Ultramar domain once again and will now have to jam his righteous fist into the faces of all of the daemon primarchs.

>>51993927
>>Eldar are fucking broken, don't suffer from their ostensible weaknesses, and are held back only by the incompetence of their playerbase
>>Orks are bro-tier
>>SM/CSM are played by casual COD kiddies and are by far the most populous faction with the lowest average skill level

CSM only ever dominated because they had a handful of laughably broken weapons. Post-nerf? They're middle of the pack right next to LSM.

>>51993932

Yeah, you need to spray suppression everywhere, plasma, toss grenades, and in general avoid melee even if its a Dire Avenger or Fire Dragon.

Just dbash them if they go for the knife and then put some bolter rounds in their skull for being a dumb ass.

>>51993941
Abaddons Grace and the Autocannon are still disgustingly strong. And don't get me started on the Gravspam/Croziusspam that was some time ago.

>>51993969

but anon grav was nerfed

LSM mostly run powersword and chainsword these days..

>>51993273
>what are command options

>>51993949
Melee is a bit hard as a Havoc though. It's also the only acceptable way to play as Iron Warrior. Get a Heavy Bolter and the Mark of Nurgle and IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT

>>51993553
Oh nice thanks anon. There was no way i was paying full price for that game, but I'll sure as hell try it for free.

>>51993998

I'd say its worth the $20 price tag they set for unlocking the full game, if you make sure to play with a group or clan. $50+ is way too much though.

>>51993986
>Gravspam/Croziusspam that was some time ago.
Read again anon. I'm glad it was nerfed. Nothing worse than a bunch of dudes spamming their Gravguns or Space Wolves and their flaming Crozius.

>>51994019

Grav is still kind of scary as a space elf, at least a the melee ones and Fire Dragons.

>>51993538
Nope. Independent character is a special rule, not a unit type. If you look at the unit type for the HQs, it's just Infantry (Character). Good times!

>>51994018

How are Raptors? I'm thinking about getting it, and I'm curious because I'm sadly a NL player but we can't mention that here anymore. I've always loved Jump Infantry on the table, but I usually ran as a Tac Marine in Space Marine.

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True Scale Marines when ? I'm pissed when The fluff state that 10 marines can take a fortified world while ingame they cant take a fucking IG FLASHLIGHT platoon.

>>51994161
nice anthem faggit

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>>51994137
Aw jeez.

>>51994161

Jump assault got raped hard. They're make of paper mache now and die like a bitch. You REALLY need to play up the hit-and-run style of gameplay, and even then..

They're less bad if you use up your one Veteran slot and take a veteran jump assault marine, but you could have used it for a Tactical or Havoc or Chosen instead.

Also no Lightning Claws in the game yet. Enjoy your power fists and chainswords.

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>>51994166

>>51994166
The new Marine models are fine. Rules are never going to meet the fluff.

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>>51994166

Truescale like that is still way too large. They should be about a head size larger than the Guardsmen models, and nothing more.

Pic related is the most accurate and best version, going all the way back to Jes Goodwin's designs from decades ago.

>>51994166
>The fluff state that 10 marines can take a fortified world

Lore has never stated that. Try reading the actual material instead of running on shitty memes from TEN FUCKING YEARS AGO YOU!

>>51994166
That's not a Marine that's a fucking primarch

>>51994198

They stand taller when they aren't squatting to take a shit like in all the old plastic sculpts. Try comparing the Forge World 30k Marines to a Cadian model, you get about the scale you want. Personally? I wish their heads were smaller, that or the torsos longer, so they felt less like deformed children and more like power armored giants.

>>51994173

Wrong faggot. I'm the one who actually owns and paints models.

>>51994196

>Jump assault got raped hard. They're make of paper mache now and die like a bitch. You REALLY need to play up the hit-and-run style of gameplay, and even then..
At least I'll be pretending I'm part of my legion? Still, sounds rough. I'll try it out, though.

>They're less bad if you use up your one Veteran slot and take a veteran jump assault marine, but you could have used it for a Tactical or Havoc or Chosen instead.
I'd probably end up playing a Tac or Chosen anyway. I assume the difference is Chosen are more melee oriented?

>Also no Lightning Claws in the game yet. Enjoy your power fists and chainswords.
That's kind of disappointing.

I CAN'T STOP MASTRUBATING TO SISTERS OF BATTLE

>>51994240

Chaos have autocannons and sorcerers, their melee is about the same, if not worse because they don't have thundershield assault marines.

They do get cool Mark powers though.

>>51994234
Well, you know how the saying goes, shit into one hand, hope in the other and see which one fills first.

>>51994246

>Chosen
>Not Chaos

Still, good to know CSM and LSM are similar.

How do Chosen differ to a CSM tac Marine?

>>51993897
>robert

>>51994245
ME TOO BROTHER

>>51994257

They don't get shields but they have Chaos Marks. So for Khorne that means lifesteal but no healing from Sorcs, Nurgle is huge toughness/HP bonuses and blight bombs, Slaanesh is like +15-20% increased movement speed and Tzeentch is less HP but nearly doubles your armor recharge rate and has lots of good sorcerer bonuses.

What kind of glue do you guys use for your plastic models? Anything I could pick up at walmart or something?

>>51994288

Interesting.

Guess I'm downloading now to try it out

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Im thinking about hacking one of these fellas arms and head off, then using tempestor arms and a gk's cowled head to make a terminator inquisitor. Will this be cool or retarded?

>>51994137
They really should've just stolen trazyn's shtick.

>>51994183
I interpret the rule as the swapped characters are no longer part of their original unit and are now with whatever they're placed into. It's a bit weird, but so much smoother.

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>>51993477
Another bad codex would make home rules more likely to be accepted though. At this stage, the worst possible outcome of a new codex is one that's just enough better to make people think they're not completely fucked, while still leaving them in the shitter.

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>>51994324
This is what's inspiring me.

>>51994245
I want to draw lewd sisters of battle but I'm afraid I'll get laughed out of 4chin

>>51994348
That would certainly work well for Chaos. Plenty of shit characters everywhere.

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>>51993510
Its more of a matter of whether or not a person is a fan of a faction. (while adequate enough not to go Grey knight initial cheese level)

>>51993509 has the right idea. Whoever wrote 7th edition codex and thought that Mob rule, was fluffy and fun to use has no idea how orks should function. (or Killakanz suffering from LD, or no saves for melee race or no way to improve orky I, list goes on)

Give it to a person who cares about orks and you'll have a good codex. I found 2 ork rewrites, one made by space odin and other by dr. zoidberg on dakka dakka, they both make a great work at fixing ork problems (although zoidberg's codex might be dangerously close to cheese zone at times)

>>51994403
Get more use out of it than we do for sure.

Aren't chosen one of the greatest units to one off your enemy? They can stumble over the battlefield with plasma and melta guns and if anyone trys to charge them they get and unexpected big amount of attacks back. They are versatile and nearly cheap with the new Legion rules.

>>51994309
Plastic cement, and no.

Superglue can work, but it's not the best.

>>51994440
If you can give them a method to actually get in a strike before they get gunned down they're decent.

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Anyone here play CSM that wants to give this a look over?

who has an Eternal Crusade referral code they want me to use?

Am I weird for preferring simple, regular power armor to all the gaudy molded-on shit that the veterans have?

>>51994388
Don't listen to the negative anons, do god emperor's work for us pls

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>>51994173
>>51994240

Back due to popular demand:

Reminder that pic related has a sweet melody which suits them perfectly now

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=IUGzY-ihqWc&feature=share [Open]

FAQ:
>Dubstep is gay lol?
Dubstep suits many chaotic factions as it is fairly chaotic
Also this song is hardly Dubstep

>I listened to three seconds and I thought it was shit?
No, you are shit. Try lasting longer than you do in bed next time, before giving a review

>If this music isn't to my personal taste, does that mean it is the wrong song for the Night Lords?
No

>ITS NOT METAL I CAN SHAKE MY NECKBEARD TO????
Metal music doesn't suit chaos, this isn't the 80s. The Night Lords have evolved a lot in the last 8-10 years, so get on board or fuck off. Metal only really suits World Eaters, even then, probably Hardcore.

>My Emps Children love the shit metal though!!!
No, your structured music would bore them to death. Please read current fluff, not your 80s shit

>LOL LOOK MY SHIT SONG ABOUT BATS OR LIGHTNING IS FUNNY
*Pat pat* nice original joke, friend

>Does the above point apply for any of my other "funny" song ideas?
Yes.

>I know more about music than you because that is brostep, not dubstep
Doesn't change the fact that it is the correct song for the Night Lords

>Why did you word that first sentence weirdly?
Because people thought they were clever with their spam filter

>You are getting less (you)s than ever, I thought that is why you do this?
No, it just proves how perfected my FAQ is.

>Is Curze a Demon Primarch, and true Prophet of the 8th?
Yes.

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>>51994588
Also taking opinions on Nine Inch Nails - Hurt as a potential alternative Night Lords song.

Let me know what you think!!
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=RDqGNm10_IU&feature=share

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>>51994173

See what you did? This is your fault for bringing it up.

>>51994569
Some time during this weekend I hope.

>>51994551
I wouldn't recommend the black mace on your lord. Its only AP 4 and your bikers don't really like being in melee with tarpits. I would take a powerfist. Does your meta feature termies? You should take plasma instead of melta then.
And as allway: DG bikes are unfluffy!

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>>51994557

Latest patch appears to have fixed the loadout system.
There are 2 days left in the current campaign to win some ingame shekels.

>>51994618
Thanks friend :)

>>51994602
>Emo music
Fits the bill. Emo music for an emo faction.

>>51994623
>tfw I modelled all my DG bikers to ride Chaos Knight horses
I wonder if I have those somewhere still...

>>51994625

Thanks and done.I honestly don't know how much I'll be able to play this weekend. Saturday, I'm seeing Logan and then heading to the store for some games, and Sunday I'll be traveling 2 hours away to hang out with a friend and play some commander.

How exactly do you get sheckles?

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>>51994602
First you ruin the Night Lords on here.
Now you are going to wreck my favorite band.
Seriously, fuck you.

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>>51994642
>Doesn't even know recent Night Lords fluff
It's not emo in this context, friendo.

>>51994658
Clearly not a very passionate fan in either regards, considering you abandon your "love" because of a few random anonymous opinons.

>>51994588
How is metal only for neckbeards? Sounds better than fart music

>>51994691
>>51994658
>>51994642

Just fucking ignore him. He's actually autistic.

>>51994588
Dubstep is gay lol

>>51994656

Every time they update the game, they run a little campaign event.
Just win 10 games in the 7-day period after that to get your due.

And just like that. The conversation died.

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>>51992866
>what the Lion calls Vulkan's dick pics folder

Is Milo Yianoupolous a Son of Caliban?
Think:
>gay
>very blond
>autistic
>fights a war in the shadows that society may be saved
>considered heretical by many, may harbour dark secrets

What Space Marine chapter is the most aesthetically pleasing?

>>51994794
none purer

>>51994794

My vote is BT.
They have their own version of purity seal!

>>51994721

Is it a lot? Like if if I hired my sheckles, will I get premium?

>>51994787
I'm concentrating really hard on wishing I was painting my Sisters of Battle or Imperial Guard or space marines instead of wasting time at work.

>>51994794
Black Templars

Ultramarines

Blood Angels

Aurora Marines

Flesh Tearers

Sons of Dorn

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>>51994794
Blood angels.
Just look at all that bling.

>>51994794
Dark Angels for Black Knights, Deathwing Knights and the Ravenwing Darkshroud, beautiful in form and function.

Also minotaurs looks swell.

>>51994794
pre-heresy emprah's children

Hey, I'm new to painting models and stuff and I'm looking to buy my paints and brushes and stuff. Is any of the Citadel stuff worth it?

>>51994932
Yeah they're pretty decent, if a little expensive.

Anyone got the planetary empires rules pdf?

>>51994932
try the starter citadel paints, it comes with some smol basic paints, some glue, brush and tool to cut sprues.
I would use that to check what works and have a base of paints, and once you start running out of them you can buy the ones you need.

What army are you painting?

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Why is Celestine so thicc?

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>>51994794
Has to the Minotaurs. That bronze tho

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>>51995077

because she saves the day everyday as a sailor senshi

>>51995115
way too dirty

>>51995128
How naieve of you. As if battle would keep you clean.

>>51995077
How else is she going to shoot the one time S8 AP3 pussy shot? You need to be thicc in order to squirt with unlimited range.

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>>51995147
>>51995128
Also you would hate my Nurgle rhinos

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>>51995188

>>51995147
>>51995188
Not in a good way. Dirty because you can't get a solid basecoat.

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>>51995210
>YFW it was a solid base coat, but then I nuln oil the shit out of it because I like the look

>>51995204
Your Nurgle looks cleaner.
>>51995188
That is just an abandoned tank, good for scenery thou
>>51995115
Why is he falling?

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>>51995218
>mfw I'm right and it just looks bad

so, today is GS 3 release right?

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>>51995229
Post your models then
>Inb4 it looks like it has never seen battle
I chose to paint it that way because I like the look.
Is it hard being autistic, thinking everything should be the way you prefer things?

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>>51995218
Anon what the hell?

This is my old 3rd edition Landraider crusader, back when the concept of primer and water base paint was forging for my third world banana republic.

I know it's shit, but at least dirt looks like dirt and not a dude that fall into mud or something.

>>51995249
Did you quote the wrong picture?
Also driving through mud, and being covered in ash etc. Is very different.
Stop being bad at this please
your land raider does look nice though

>>51995243
Ok that is is nice, personally the rust is over done. It looks like it can't even move.

Your rhino looks like it have been left to rust in some backwater planet

>>51995262
That is the point of Nurgle friend. Rusty parts still moving when they shouldn't dead flesh being reanimated.
Go read some Nurgle books, where it is described as rusty parts that shouldn't be moving still are.

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>>51995261
Meant to link the rhino, no idea why it pick the prince. Freaking touch screens on tablets.

I had forgotten about my old BT.

What's the worst thing in your army currently /tg/?

I think my beast pack are going to seriously underperform but fuck it I like the look of them, so far my reavers are terrible which is strange

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Are we posting pictures of our work?

Please don't tell me I paint like a blind toddler.

>>51995281
Celestians, Repentias come close, but at least them can reliable destroy knights in melee.

On the flip, Repentias can be use as DCA/Crusaders

>>51995243
Is it hard being autistic with the way you take criticism?

>>51995288
take pictures like one too
never change /tg/

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>>51995288
It is sideways honey. 4chan does not have the code thingy to tell which side is the right side from mobile phone pictures.

Also DDR and Karaoke Mk1 Rhinos.

>>51995288
Bit thick m8

Tho phone cams tend to make every model look thick you do paint your thins right?

>>51995295
Just turn your phone to the side like the rest of us phone posting master race.

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>>51995293
You told me I am doing my models wrong, in a non-constructive way, when I like them that way. What were you expecting?

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>>51995329
Before you go nuts on his pose and or/paint job, he is WiP.
Also magnetised in all joints

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>>51995329
Personally I think it is over done.

And I'm having mud marines here.

>>51995291
>reliably destroy a knight in melee

Wtf how bad are your celestians

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Yes mas'a, course I do mas'a.

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>>51995346
Celestians are overpriced Battle Sisters Squads and shitty versions of Command squads.

Also Cardboard LRC.

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>>51995345
Fair enough.
I love the look, in the thick of battle, the ash, soot, dirt and fire tarnishing their armour. Especially if you note the base colour on the higher up models.

>>51994198

Space Marine rules are an order of magnitude above human in almost all stats, plus have substantially better equipment than a guardsman. That is completely fluff accurate.

What isn't fluff accurate is just politely taking turns standing around taking 20 Lasgun shots to the face. Marines are special ops, and should try to avoid open field stand and shoot engagements such as the entire tabletop game revolves around.

Also unfluffy: Half to an entire company fighting in one small area on more than the most desperate situations.

Finally, it doesn't really help that Tactical marines are a sacred cow from the rogue trader era that basically leads to marines who have completed three full tours of duty as a scout, assault marine and devastator standing about completely underequipped with a Bolter and a combat knife.

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>>51995346
Oh reliable as in if for some reason the knight player ignores them and manage to get into melee the bondage naked crazy nuns will destroy it

More random crap from back in the good old days. When I didn't stress out about painting good and just painted

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Marines, how do you feel about the fact that hick xenos driving around in a space truck have a better basic dedicated transport than you?

>>51995406
Is it 35 points?
Because that's what makes SM transports so good. Not their stats.

>>51995393
Fwoar what's goin on with that front marine, looks like they gave a catachan the geneseed

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>>51995406
Nothing. Rules are different from fluff.
newfag

Are dread mobs still legal?

>>51995418

50, but it's open topped (shoot and charge out of it) and has a twin linked autocannon and a heavy stubber.

Also Rhinos being cheap-ass boxes with a stormbolter doesn't exactly make the marines look good as an elite organisation.

>>51995427

I dunno, the truck still seems better even in fluff. Rugged all-terrain environment-sealed mining truck with a stable firing platform and a mount for a heavy weapon.

The only weakness is it's pilots are BS3 scrubs and the side armour isn't as reinforced as a military vehicle would be.

>>51995249

> What kinda paintjob you want?
> Just gloos my shit up, senpai

>>51995472
BS3 are trained soldiers
BS4 are veterans
BS3 are scrubs

Since the bloody system is d6 you don't get much variance. Ideally a d100 but since this a wargame with lots of different shits shooting it is hard to do.
A middle ground would be a d10 enough room to make it more varied and not get silly like a d20 or d100

>>51993461
kys

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>eldar player asks to bring fluff and varied IG list
>he brings full scatterbikes and a wraithknight against my platoons, sentinels russes and ogryns


I...

>I'll just go to the hobby store and buy some paints today
>Hey dude we got your order in
And then I accidentally Betrayed at Calth
So now I have the Burning of Prospero, Betrayal at Calth, two boxes of Tactical marines and a box of devastators to build.
And I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to build a fun list out of them.

>>51995570
Maybe he wanted to loot some Chimeras and use them. Since the Eldar tanks are inferior.
~Goto

>>51995570
Eldar generals are complete faggots so it is fluffy.

How's the Games-Workshop version of the contemptor hold up to the Forge World version?

I can't believe Slaanesh is fucking dead and replaced with Chaos Elves/Eldar.

>>51995077
Because they haven't thinned her paints

>>51995673
What

>>51995188
>Father Nurgle damn it. Fred left all the doors open again and didn't even take they keys with him.

>>51995662

The GW one looks like shit. Total static pose.

The FW one actually looks cool but like all FW shit it's retardedly overpriced.

>>51994414
>or Killakanz suffering from LD

See, this is something I'm actually somewhat conflicted on. Their 5th edition fluff (which was when they were changed to having Grot pilots) says that they commonly would stand around stunned in combat or even waddle away because their basic Grot cowardice was still there, despite them being inside a 10 foot tall killing machine. In that light, the Cowardly Grots rule is very fluffy.

The issue as I see it is that GW gave that rule to Kans AND upped their points cost AND nerfed their melee weapons. If you made Kans cheap, reflecting their worse rules, then honestly I'd have no issue with the rule. What really hurts is the ludicrous price tag of the unit.

And who exactly keeps figuring that the elite Nob units in Ork lists should do WORSE on Mob Rule needs a clobberin'. It should go off of number of wounds for starters, it should be D3 hits at most, and it shouldn't be a random table. You just select whichever option you want. In close combat? You're not running. Orks love fighting too much. Got a character in the unit? He'll sort the gitz out. Lots of Orks in the unit? They'll have a bit of biff and then stop muckin' about. Orks inflicting wounds on themselves to pass LD checks is fluffy and reasonable in an army that is supposed to have cheap options so you don't care too much when models are removed. It's just once again the rules aren't reflecting that.

>>51995706
I don't think it should be impossible to do a pose change on a dreadnought?

>>51995281

>Commissars
All the models are ace, but they suck on the table.
Bring back the 3rd edition stat line, I say.

>>51995733
Wonder if we can make a nice mix of 7th and glorious 3rd.

Even with retarded Rhino rush, double lash and fishy I don't recall the game being so infuriating at tournament level as it is today

Ultramarine Primarch is an angst emo kid.

Good job GW, what now Imperials getting weaker because they lost the connection to the warp?

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>>51995803
On my rant I forgot the picture like an idiot

Are the megas down
I really need the Angels of Death supplement

>>51995811
Oh great, 40k is going noblebright

>>51995811
>complimenting Horus
Ultramarines confirmed for heretics and falling to chaos.

>>51995811
he gets mopey when he wakes up, then says "wait no these chaos faggots sucked dick and will always suck dick" and starts killing them with a giant sword

>>51995811
Why Cawl is so huge?

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What did he mean by this?

>>51995861
Had you not seen the model? Why is he not very bulky is beyond me.
The fucker fits inside a Chimera no problem

>those qts in the left

>>51995811
I honestly like him this way. Takes the whole mary-sueism away that was moked for so long.

>>51995811
What is this "healthy at any size" shit why everyone is so fat?

>>51995885
You again? Won't you ever get bored?

>>51995077
With all the retarded over detailed models they've been coming out with recently.
It seems odd that celestine is so plain.

>>51995905
What the hell are you talking about? The thicc shit is a meme now. It is not one anon it is multiple ones.

Kind of right considering SoS have powe armour and they are not as fat as new SoB. Not even GayFox is that fat

>>51995531
Scrubs are bs2 you mean.

>>51995924
Indeed.

>>51995884
Agreed, it makes sense really, look at the current shape of the Imperium, how could he have awoken and been happy at the way things have gone? It's going to take a serious amount of unfucking.

>>51995935
Saying anything good about Horus is another level of bad writing.

Gathering of the Storm my ass, Gathering of Shit Lore.

>>51995811
It seems really strange for him to object to hate.
Honestly that rustles me.

>>51992866
>Incubi aren't Aspect Warriors edition

>Implying Aspect Warriors will ever look as good as Incubi

>>51995567
Why would I? Shitposters gonna shitpost, and I have gotten positive and constructive feedback before.

>>51995944
But he didn't say anything good about Horus, he merely wondered aloud whether or not their victory was worth it. There's plenty of examples of shitty, shitty writing in the Gathering Storm, I just don't think this particular piece is anywhere near the top of the dung pile.

>>51995949
To be fair "Hate is the vengeance of the weak" if only I could remember where the fuck I read that.

Then again that Horus... fucking traitor Girlyman

>>51995935


Again, Guilliman will be Constantine the great, trying to re-shape the Imperium into the the Byzantine Empire

He was Caesar in 30k, now he will be Constantine

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great

>>51995871
All that mass is just spindly mechanical tentacle rape monster. If he hunkers down and pulls all his shit in he's much smaller.

>>51992866

has anyone saw this?

>http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/state-of-the-crusade-%E2%80%93-free-carnage-edition.64006/

>>51995949
He seen himself where blind hate got him after Calth, perhaps he sees the same problem in the modern day Imperium

>>51995963
Part of me feels GW is going to pull a Valdir (the age of apostasy guy) with Girlyman

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So i made this is a blurred haze last night, i dont even know if its legal, but if it is, I dub it, the smash wagon, pure garbage, but i just wanted to see if i could do it.

>>51995987

Yeah. I like it.
They're taking steps in the right direction after all the "balance" patches they implemented before.

>>51995828
>complimenting
It's not a compliment.

>>51993927
I dare to say that CSM are the mos well rounded faction in teamplay speaking, the noobs usually go to LSM and ORkS yeah they are bro tier

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are we the baddies?

>>51993932

>Playing against Eldar as an Ork is suffering
Thank fuck the ork playerbase is smart and co-operative.
Swooping hawk players are cancer.

>>51996096
Inb4 raw butt breaks off from the imperium to form the galactic super friends with the eldar and the IoM are finally done with him for good.

>>51996118
he's ultimately going to be the hero, he just has to get past that initial shock of "how did you guys fuck this up"

>>51996047
Can't take a commissar as a mandatory HQ

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HAHAHAHAHA

wtf is this shit? what a mess

>>51993120
The real question is can it be used to insert your warlord into a combat that a friendly character is in, or even take that character's place in a challenge.

>>51996153
Welcome to like ten years ago

>>51995622
You trying to build a whole tactical company or something? The gayest of all the companies. They even have a pink shoulder rim.

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thoughts?

>>51996144
Ok so i would just need to drop a few special weapons and get him to a lord.

>>51996175
Ilegal you need 4 Troops, you have 3

>>51995722
Not impossible but the way the kit goes together doesn't lend itself to it. From memory it's a front half and a back half glued together. Then arms attached

>>51996153
yeah this>>51996163
Your late, but the buff it gives is noice.

>>51996153
i think it looks cool

>>51996188
Scions count

>>51996169
No, I just wanted to have lots of legionnaires
Now I can have 5 tactical terminators, 5 lightning claw terminators, a dreadnought, a devastator squad with heavy bolters, the manliest of bolters, and a squad of assault marines, and some really cool heroes.
If I were to build a company, I would do the one with either black or red trim
>>51996189
The leg construction is in front and back half yes, but it should be fine enough to glue it together and then hack away until blood comes out

>>51996198
Those are elite scions.

>>51996198
this
>>51996200
That site is not always 100% accurate.

>>51996096
Damn Cawl is fucking massive.

>>51996200
oops yep, I'll change that quickly

>>51996208
The option is there. Under MT.

Gathering storm II FAQ; snip snip.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Gathering_Storm_II_v1.0.pdf

>>51993596
Supposedly some tzaangors became daemon princes

>>51996219
>mfw no FAQ for IA clusterfuck or Celestine AoF stupidity in FoC

Fucking assholes.

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>>51996175
fixed

>>51994224
Alpha Legion took an entire world with one human operative, it's not entirely ridiculous.

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>>51995570
>playing with an eldar player
>ever
They've all been massive fags the whole lot of them

>>51996219
>Q: Should the Visarch have an invulnerable save? Should he have grenades?
>A: No to both questions.
Glad they took the time to clear that up. Meanwhile, Wrath of Magnus still has multiple unresolved rules issues with the Thousand Sons (Blessing of Tzeentch, Favored of Tzeentch, Siphon Magic).

>>51994257
Chosen have 2 attacks base, a bolter, a pistol and a CCW. up to 4 can take power weapons, special weapons or lightning claws (even dual), and one can take an addtional heavy weapon or special weapon. They're one of the most versatile units, but they're a bit too pricey and they lack good delivery methods (except for alpha legion).

>>51996240
I'm almost sure those veteran squads are wrong
You can have 3 special/heavy weapons max

>>51996096
>Celestine, Cawl, Greyfax, Calgar and Yvraine
I'm surprised theres no Visarch on screen considering Yvraine is in one of possibly the most dangerous places for anything xenos in the galaxy with those people around.

Also, if that size comparison with Cawl means they'll be about the same size, I guess Guilliman is going to use the same base size as standard MCs like Kastelan robots?

Can anyone give me a link to the Angels of Death codex supplement? I can't find it and the mega links in the OP aren't working.

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>>51996219
>Q: How do the models/units with mixed Factions work? Can units that share at least one Faction start the game embarked on a Transport?
>A: Ynnari models have two Factions (except in the case of Yvraine, the Visarch and the Yncarne, who only have one). You must consider both of their Factions to determine their levels of Alliance and which Transports they may be embarked on at the beginning of the game. For example, an Eldar/Ynnari unit shares the same Factions as other Eldar/Ynnari, but is of different Factions from (though Battle Brothers with) Dark Eldar/Ynnari and Harlequins/Ynnari. An Eldar/Ynnari unit can therefore only begin the game embarked if it is embarked on an Eldar/Ynnari vehicle. Note that Yvraine and the Visarch can begin the game embarked on Ynnari vehicles (regardless of those vehicles’ other Factions).
Thank goodness.

>Q: If a unit is embarked on a Transport, and the Transport is wrecked, is the disembarking unit allowed to perform a Soulburst action?
>A: Yes (as long as they pass their Pinning test).
Oh fug.

>Q: If a unit is embarked on a Transport, and the Transport explodes, are the survivors from that unit allowed to perform a Soulburst action?
>A: No.
Wait, what?

>>51996276
Oh that's Celestine trying to steal Marneus's iron halo?

>>51996254
What are the issues with those?

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>>51995570
kek

>>51996285
That's Celestine giving Guilliman a holy blessing in form of the halo (the WD equipment overview for Calgar said that he got the halo from Celestine).

Calgar is the Terminator in the front with the UM Iron Halo.

>>51995924
i-it's n-not scrub-biness, if y-you s-shoot a-a lot

>>51996298
>orks are a shooting race!
>BS2

>>51996297
>for Calgar
Dammit you confused me.
For Guilliman.

>>51996288
How does Blessing of Tzeentch interact with Blessings that only affect one model in the unit (say Iron Arm on a Scarab Occult Sorcerer), affect some models in the unit (say Telekine Dome affecting half of a Scarab Occult unit), and Blessings that don't target directly but still affect the entire unit (say Telekine Dome affecting an entire Scarab Occult unit). A less ambiguous one would be how Blessing of Tzeentch interacts with effects that cancel out blessings, like a Culexus Assassin's null aura.

The issue with Favored of Tzeentch is whether it only functions as long as the formation contains nine units. Basically, does it turn off once one unit is killed, like with the Predator/Vindicator squadron bonuses. The wording for the "favored number" benefits in the Plague Colony and Kakophoni are worded differently such that the starting formation size matters.

The issue with Siphon Magic is when the bonus dice go away and whether a psyker procs his own Siphon Magic. In the case of Ahriman and Magnus, that's potentially an extra 3 or 4 Warp Charge.

>>51996282
They get to fight back if they leave a non-operational vehicle by their own power, they don't if they are flung out of the exploding hull.

The other tranport thing makes me glad I didn't bother, I only wanted to field incubi and banshees side by side riding in Raiders, now that's out no reason to bother with the cheesey souburst garbage.

>>51996303
they aren't shooty nor choppy though. For me orkz should be rather bad per model, but very cheap. Like one tankbusta ain't gonna do shit, but ten? oh boy.
Also some re balancing, kinda like 0din version.

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>>51996282
>Ynnari
>different from Eldar/Ynnari
>allowed to soul burst if it's wrecked but not if it explodes
I cant even begin to grasp the logic behind this.

Good thing I dont even play Ynnari

>>51996293
Oki doki. In any case why have a missile launcher and a plasma in the same squad? Or I'm missing another thing again.

>>51996265

Talking about Eternal Crusade

>>51996325
I get thevdouble-faction one. They get an extra faction that makes them applicable for rules using that facrion but still keep their original faction as well, meaning they have different factions internally.

Just like they'll have Imperial, Chaos and Adeptus Mechanicus as macro factions next edition.

>>51996346
Given that the only AdMech character model is on Guilliman's side, I doubt they'll be a separate faction from the rest of the Imperium.

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Why aren't you on the right side of history /tg/?

>>51996346
But, a eldar/ynnari can board eldar/ynnari vehicles and hypothetical ynnari transports.
A dark eldar/ynnari can't board an eldar/ynnari transport but a ynnari model can despite lacking 'eldar'?

>>51996352
If the XXL FoCs are any indication, then they might be.
Really hope we get more characters for them though.

Imperial Knights are going to be interesting in that case as will Enginseers.
>Imperial Knights/Adeptus Mechanicus/Imperial

>>51996282
>Q: How do the models/units with mixed Factions work? Can units that share at least one Faction start the game embarked on a Transport?
>>A: Ynnari models have two Factions (except in the case of Yvraine, the Visarch and the Yncarne, who only have one). You must consider both of their Factions to determine their levels of Alliance and which Transports they may be embarked on at the beginning of the game. For example, an Eldar/Ynnari unit shares the same Factions as other Eldar/Ynnari, but is of different Factions from (though Battle Brothers with) Dark Eldar/Ynnari and Harlequins/Ynnari. An Eldar/Ynnari unit can therefore only begin the game embarked if it is embarked on an Eldar/Ynnari vehicle. Note that Yvraine and the Visarch can begin the game embarked on Ynnari vehicles (regardless of those vehicles’ other Factions).

Well there goes the only reason to bring DEldar

>>51996364
Yes, because Dark Eldar and Eldar are different factions that aren't allowed to board things while a pure Ynnari has no faction that he doesn't share with the Eldar/Ynnari model.

>>51994358
>that pic
JFC I was there for that cap & the cringe was real. Wtf is with so many Tau players? All the ones I know IRL are cool, but online are some real pieces of work.

>>51996325
>I cant even begin to grasp the logic behind this.

>>51996316
>They get to fight back if they leave a non-operational vehicle by their own power, they don't if they are flung out of the exploding hull.

>>51996047
HWS arent troop choices by themselves. You would need 2 whole platoons to cover that point.

>>51996384
Most online Tau players are basement dwelling autistic weebs that don't even make it to their LGS. The ones that do go there are usually not bad enough to complain over.

>>51995811
Poor guy, I genuinely feel sorry for him now.

Imagine the shit that the Emp had to put up with until now and what he would do if he ever returns.

>>51996354
Wez iz, 'ez 'istory and we'z da fucher!

>>51996393
But there's already a pinning test to see if the models are encumbered by the destruction of their vehicle.

>>51996118
Yvraine believes that things need to die before they can be reborn.

She rezes Guilliman and sends him off to Terra to see the not-dead-yet Emperor.

Cypher makes the perfect fall guy so that Guilliman can lead untarnished.

>>51996376
A-At least this is a buff if you did want to play dark eldar.

We're not just the shit one third the of combined Eldar codex!

As Guard, would I be better off using a melee Knight to compliment my shootiness or a dakka Knight to back it up? I've been thinking about getting one.

>>51996399
Well some of the local one here are retards.
Everyone with common sense just discard the Objective cards that are impossible to achieve. Like kill a Psyker when there are no psykers to kill.
This Tau players insist on keeping them since that is how the rules are.

Because already random Objective are made better when you can lose a game due to impossible Objective keep showing up.

Fucking retard

>>51996364
Yup.
The Wave Serpent for example will have the Craftworld/Ynnari factions

Wyches will have Dark Eldar/Ynnari so they won't be able to start in a Wave Serpent.

But Dire Avengers have Craftworld/Ynnari so they will be able to.