Horus Heresy General

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>>51978507
first for best pattern warhound

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A caveat before people start going mad: most of the book is not done. It arrived late, the Scanning machine went Maleficara due to some idiot using it wrong during the break and spending an hour scanning the same page 17 times to try and get the quality absolutely perfect didn’t help either. But tomorrow is when everything comes together and I’ll be taking live requests. Until then, enjoy what has already been done in no particular order. If you feel cheated just remember solamen miseris socios habuisse doloris.

>>51978525
>solamen miseris socios habuisse doloris
That'll be your mom!
Kek, feel no pain, Scananon

Looks like Amendera Kerell was everywhere.

>>51977021
I don't think they've ever been specifically mentioned as 40k only. There's no fluff about their STC being discovered.

FW just didn't give anyone chimera hulls so they could sell marine-only basilisks and shit.

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>>51978542

"I'll rid this world of pointless crimes, brother."
"I was wrong about you, Curze. You're not cruel, you're batshit insane!"

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>>51978541
OUR TITAN IS ACTUALLY IN THE OTHER THREAD, WE'RE JUST SERVING AS A VANGUARD. IT'S TOTALLY BACK THERE BELIEVE US THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMPULSOR-
>>51978520
Oooh, hello there good-looking ;^)

>cuckstodes dreads always have D on the charge
please stop spreading this falsehood, its only on 6's to hit

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>>51978573
What? That they do 6 Ds on each hit? :^)

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i cant tell if those are actual metallics of NMM for the silver bits

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>>51978579
positing question to new bread

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>>51978621

I reckon someone with good photoshop skills could make this a template. Your very own writ edict of the Emperor.

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>>51978579
>What do I do with the second slot?
I was going to remind you of the "+D3 to the enemy if he kills all your Cortex controllers"...buuuutt that only happens to the Primary Detachment so you're on the good.
Add stuff as needed

What is your RG main list?

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>>51978645

Quite a bit of a skip to this one, but it's the fluff that people have seemingly demanded the most, so here it is.

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>>51978634
>Lex IMPERATOR . V U L T
This is awesome. I sort of forgot what the Aleph a was for, as well as the bird at the bottom?
Also, is it too weird the first thing I look on women is the shape of their skulls, before tits or butt?

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I'm not judging anon.

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>>51978640
I have a few different ones, but the primaries are decapitation strike, drop assault, and recon company. To give a general idea, current general unit dispositions: Forge lord in cataphractii (often warlord without corax present, serves as a cortex controller for the boops due to sworn brothers), several consuls/praetors of varying types with a single cataphractii model thrown in (40k RG mk VI hqs getting repaints as needed), squad of tartaros terminators, 2 10-man veteran squads, 3 5-man squads that can be run as recons or supports, single squad of mor deythan, 2 10-man units of tacs, and a 10-man of breachers. from 40k have 9 drop pods and acquired 2 storm eagles. All but the breachers/tacs are magnetized and have combi options available, mor deythan only have combi-flamers or snipers, eagles are magged at the nose to run darkwing or regular.

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>>51978717
have an in progress pic

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>>51978721

People have called this the An-Cap Forgeworld. I'm not as sure, but I'll let you all be the judge of that.

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>>51978820

We continue with the Iron Vigil.

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>>51978938

And that's the end of the actual main scans, what follows is a few pics from across the book.

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>>51978963

That is literally everything I have. You will have to wait about half a day before you can get your rule scans and anything else. Though given the silence of this thread, it seems everyone was asleep anyway.

Have a good day/night/whatever time it is in your corner of the world.

>>51978976
Have a good 3am, m8.
I suppose you're in Australia?

So I'm looking at either Solar Auxilia or Militia allies for my Mechanicum, since I need more bodies on the board than a few Thallax. Does anyone find that Lasrifle Sections get anything done other than standing around, or should I go with Levy blobs or Adsecularis instead for Fearless? Appeal of the Auxilia is a lot of shiny toys in the other slots, like the Malcador Infernus and Rapier batteries, I guess.

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>>51978992

I am everywhere and nowhere. I am wherever people want me to be.

Have one of my failed scans.

>>51978525
You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.

>>51978976
Thank you for your work Scan Anon.

>>51978976
>Though given the silence of this thread, it seems everyone was asleep anyway.
Well, they could be reading.

>>51978634
Nowhere does it say that the Emperor wanted Magnus back alive. So TSfags lied to us...again!

>>51979243

Usually people comment on what they have read and discuss it in-thread. That's what happened with every other FW book dumped here. There was a lot of chatter about the Alphas when Extermination was posted.

Thinking of buying a bunch of bacand Prospero box sets. I was thinking I would choke my enemy to death with foot slogging power armor.

Will this work often enough to justify doing or will I get my shit slapped by artillery and seemingly unkillable dredds and terminators?

I'm sitting here debating on buying a full 20man squad of ass marines for my Night lords... It sounds like a cool idea, but I don't know if that's what I should do because all my lists end up lacking anti-tank, especially in a terror assault.

However, having 20 assmarines would let me do an Orbital Assault RoW with Teleporting Terminators, podding support squads, and and a contemptor out of a Dreadclaw.

My army isn't even complete and I feel burned out

>>51979300
Take apothecarys to improve survivability and vexillas to help with any morale checks you have to make. A couple of squads can be good, especially if you are one of the legions with enhenced movement rules such as +1 to run distances or move through cover. Just remember that all the tactical squads in the world won't help you against AV14, flyers and deathstars so make sure you have stuff to deal with these too.

>>51979251
He has to "stand" before the throne. You kind of have to be alive to do that.

>>51978948
Are there the Warp Runners in the book?
Thank you for all that you're doing for us.

>>51979300
Which legion?
Massed tacticals can be viable with proper support (artillery, deep striking heavy weapons etc.).

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New player.

How hard have I fucked up?

>>51979612
New to 30k or new to warhammer in general? This list lacks so much it's easier to say that you have fulfilled the minimum requirements of a legal list and leave it at that.

>>51979612
Well, you've got no anti-tank whatsoever, so pretty hard I'm afraid. Even just shrinking the tac blobs to 15 dudes each would save you 120 points, enough for a predator, vindicator, or pair of laser rapiers. Or shrink them to 14 each (muh legion number) and get a pair of quad mortars with shatter shells, which you'd almost certainly be buying for your army at some point anyway.

Oh, and don't bother with a praetor at 1000 points, stick with a cheaper HQ for the moment.

Finally, power scythes are brilliant, get them for both tactical sergeants, and probably your HQ dude as well.

>>51979396

If you like it, get it. If you like NL, get the special Forgeworldslusive NL assmarines. Your fun > *

>>51979682

If he was really tight in the wallet, he could take 10 of those tacs and make them heavy support with missile launchers. Thats just way too many tacs.

>>51979522

Doesn't even matter which legion if he goes mostly generic. Take a bunch of those tacs, make some of them vets, take a bunch of those termies for a death star, and then add vehicles and dreadnoughts from separate eBay purchases. Bam, you have a threatening plastic army.

>>51979776

Night Raptors are sweet, however they're more expensive in money and points, especially compared to ass marines. I mean, they're 150 +20ppm BEFORE you start paying 10-20ppm more for weapons. Don't get me wrong, a squad of 15 raptors with glaives, claws, and axes would be sweet as hell, but it would also be 560ish points.

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>>51978948
ALL PRAISE THE SCANON

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>>51978542
>Trail of the Sorcerer
Almost read it as Trail of Tears for some reason.

>>51978976
Thank you for your work, ScanAnon.

Erebus did nothing wrong.

>>51978525

I kind of like how the first paragraph beats it over your head that the Primarchs were basically humans with super powers and thus liable to do stupid shit as any other human.

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how does this look? Am I just going to lose to armor?

Battlescribe formatting is aids I am sorry

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>>51978976
These are really high quality, almost to the point where I suspect you ripped the binding off so you wouldn't have fold shadows where the pages meet the spine. Nice surprise, considering that some of the scans of the other books were borderline-unreadable at times.

I'll wait for the full pdf before having a read, but it's looking really good so far. Praise scanon!

>>51978645
So... Mk II Achean when?

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>>51980092
>put achean pattern helmets on Mk II bodies
>???
>prophet

>>51980092
like two months ago. It's only the helmet and shoulder pads that are different and they have already been released.

>>51978554
That Legion Basilisk kit is pretty sweet though. The chassis is like normal Basilisk meets Land Raider meets Deimos Rhino.

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>>51980129
Huh. I thought something about the helmet in the illustration was different to the FW Achean parts, but apparently not.

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>>51980134
It's good, but I like the contemporary basilisk a bit more.

Basically what I'm saying is let me take my armageddon basilisks, FW. Earthshaker batteries aren't as cool as SPGs.

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>>51980226
>armageddon pattern
My salamander.

>>51978663
>I am become Death, destroyer of worlds

Cheeky cunts.

>>51979175
>Scan of Honour
I can't be the only one who sees it.

PRAISE BE UPON THE SCANANON, LORD OF HHG

srsly, its great dude, i really appriciate it.

>>51979452

Roger. That's what I was afraid of.

>>51979522

Death guard.

I was hoping to put over 100 power armor marines down on the table with bolters, close combat weapons, melt bombs, and power scythes. I figured 20 dudes and a scythe could probably get a lot of work done, but there seems like a lot of things they can't do. Not sure how often a 20 man squad bumps into something it can't handle.

I played orks in 40k back in 5th, 30 boys could kill just about anything.

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>>51978634
voila anon

edict away

>>51978507
What happend to the mechcanicum rules in the OP?

>>51981078
>http://pastebin.com/k9uvqsub

>>51979812

Does this work for Night Lords, too? I don't see why it wouldn't, though they don't have bonus speed. However, idk how common 20man blobs are atm, they might be sure to get murder bonus.

I think it would be cool to have a mass of tacticals with vox while terminators teleported down on top of them. Like just BAM 10 Termies. Not sure how good it would be though. I don't even know what RoW supports that. Probably just PotL.

I'm kinda new, sorry.

Is it common for a Knight to be painted in the colors of a Titan Legion?

>>51981421
Probably not since Knight Houses and Titan legions were separate. Knights could be sworn to a particular Forgeworld and then adopt/incorporate their colours however.

>>51981421
Doubt it, they had their own houses after all. And even the mechanicum aligned houses preffered to keep as much of their hieraldy as possible

>>51980866
bring a powerfist or melta bombs and AV14 shouldn't be to much of a problem, bring some aegis defense line quadgun action for AA and tarpit any deathstar that shows up. boom, PA can do anything, I ran PA spam as LW last year and it does ok.

Phosphex launchers on leviathan dreads are super cheese in zone mortalis games right?

>>51981629
>Phosphex launchers on leviathan dreads are super cheese

FTFY

>>51981658
Leviathans are good but far too expensive to consider anything they do in open play cheese.

If you are footslogging then that's ~300 points for something that has a maximum weapon range of 24".

If you drop pod it then that's ~400 points which could probably be spent better anywhere else.

>>51979251
This is yiff reading comprehension.
Horus shouldn't have bothered with tweaking the message.

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when you're a DG Destroyer and forget your helmet.

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>>51981843
They are the reason I never play anything not inside a dedicated transport anymore. For the mere 15 points a phospex discharger costs it insures that the leviathan earns half its points back with just a single weapon, unless you're either very fortunate or only fielding tactical marines or something.

>>51982738
Looks like he has the same feeling as pic related

>>51978525
if you want, you can have sex with my mother and sister. At the same time.

>>51982738
>Can't wake up

>>51980123
Please gib leftover MkII helmets, I cant find any elsewhere as my google fu is weak.

>>51982809
>implying he doesn't already

>>51978507
where the fuck is book 7?

>>51982738
Very nice!

nice shit for all

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/1ithim/ive_been_working_on_my_own_space_marine_template/?st=iznbzffy&sh=6fa49a9c

>>51982875
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-EU/The-Horus-Heresy-Book-Seven-Inferno

Right here faggot

>>51982738
I want to get off mr. Mortarion's wild ride.

>>51982738
Those tumours on the neck.

>Absolutely horrifying.jpg

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Finished my first thousand son. Think the white came out pretty flat.

>>51983048
Couple of points:

- Learn how to take pictures, like not photographing a red model on a red background.

- Your white is flat because you painted it pure whitte, paint it light grey and highlight with white.

- Highlight your gold more.

>>51983048
Not the best lighting in the pick, but looks alright.

999 to go :^)

>>51982918
thx bitch <2

>>51981578

Thanks anon!

The trench line GW puts out, us it any good or is it all about Dat aegis?

>>51978507
Spoilering the OP image is idiotic.

>>51979978
You have a decent chance with those drop podding units.

If you're running Terror Assault just because it sounds like the only way to run Night Lords, consider Sacrificial Offering too.

>>51979300
It won't work against an opponent who sits back and shoots you down.

It can work with IW and DG because they can build a good firebase that the enemy can't ignore and has to move towards and their forward squads get other bonuses (IW: morale vs shooting, DG: move through cover). IW strengthen that firebase with Siege Tyrants, who besides launching missiles can defend the firebase in close combat from deep strikers. DG do the same with Grave Wardens. UM would be able to do the same with their Siege Tyrant ripoffs, but they're too expensive.

SW might pull it off since their troops choice can run a lot, but they're still vulnerable to shooting.

How bad is it?

+1500 30k AL Recon (Warhammer 30,000 - The Horus Heresy v61) (1500pts) +

++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List v231) (1500pts) ++

+ HQ (125pts) +

··Autilon Skorr (125pts)

+ Elites (830pts) +

··Contemptor Dreadnought Talon (380pts)
····Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons]
····Legion Contemptor Dreadnought [Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon with inbuilt twin-linked Bolter, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons]

··Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (225pts) [9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Veteran Tactics: Marksmen]
····Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [MultiMelta]
····Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Dagger]

··Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (225pts) [9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Veteran Tactics: Marksmen]
····Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [MultiMelta]
····Legion Veteran Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Dagger]

+ Troops (435pts) +

··Legion Recon Squad (165pts) [4x Legion Space Marines, Replace Power Armour with Recon Armour]
····Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [MultiMelta]
····Legion Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Dagger]

··Legion Recon Squad (165pts) [4x Legion Space Marines, Replace Power Armour with Recon Armour]
····Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier [MultiMelta]
····Legion Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Dagger]

··Legion Recon Squad (105pts) [4x Legion Space Marines, Replace Power Armour with Recon Armour]
····Legion Sergeant [Power Dagger]

+ Fast Attack (110pts) +

··Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron (55pts)
····Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [Heavy Bolter, TL Cyclone missile launcher]

··Legion Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron (55pts)
····Legion Javelin Attack Speeder [Heavy Bolter, TL Cyclone missile launcher]

>>51983486
Your list seems to lack decent ways to deal with terminators, and AV 14 with AC. Rhinos with multi-melta are great and all, but more as a backup thing and not as the only tanks in the army.

>>51983486
I have a hard time seeing how those recon marines are worth it over normal tacticals.

>>51983759
Keeping them barebones it's not that bad of a tax for a Recon company army, if your build your list well.

Y dont Emps cuts his hair?

>>51983759

They're not. They are just a tax for the Recon Company benefits, which are pretty nice for AL. Personally I think that RAW I only need one squad of Recons, but I can see why some people say 3, and it's easier to do this than argue.

>>51983559
I'm hoping I have enough Rending to be able to handle some Terminators, if they have power axes/fists the Vets can probably kill a few survivors in CC before they swing. The Dreads are also a possibility for both Terminators and AV 14, although I may just have to ignore Land Raiders at this points level.

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Has FW confrimed if they're ever gonna make Siege Tyrants or Iron Havoc models?

Iron Havocs seem unlikely as they appear to just be MkIIs with an autocannon in this pic, but Siege Tyrants seem possible.
I don't want to have to replace my conversions with the real model down the line, which my tiny soldier based autism would implore me to do.

>>51984019
There is pics of the tyrants on the net from the FW open day like a fortnight ago.

>>51984039
Thanks senpai, I just decided on IWs like three days ago.

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>>51984019
Wot that other anon said.

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What are you working on /hhg/? It's endless tacticals in DG-land.

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Any further suggestions from folks? I gave up on the elites slot since I could only take domitars which don't do much, I guess it comes down to more castellax, thallax, or thralls. Empyrite thallax seem like a decent option for larger ZM games

>>51984147
tech priest auxilas with max flamers should do not aweful in ZM.

>>51984118
working on some chinese ursarax for my growing beepus boopus force, while furiously stripping my LWs to turn them into ALs.

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>>51984180
forgot picture, obviously.

>>51980080

You know that the Scanon does slash the spines of his books right?

>>51983245

Have you even seen the OP image?

Hey guys, remember the podcast we were talking about a month ago? yeah. we actually got shit done.

check out the horus hearsay podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jwNf8a_f00

If you want to help out, join the /hhg/ discord, link is in the OP

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Do you think the Kharon will have both heads in the same set. Or will you have to choose?

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Are the recon company benefits really worth it at 1500 points? To put it another way, you're putting 435 points, nearly a third of your list, in to have a strong chance of first turn (something Skorr is presumably helping with anyway) and to give some units shrouded. You're pretty much giving away the martial hubris VP too. At this points level, might that 435 points not be put to better use bringing things which will actually hurt your opponent?

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>>51984242

Congratulations. Have this to celebrate.

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>>51984118
Needed something to punch a hole so I'm adding a lascannon squad.

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>>51982738
Great stuff!

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>>51982738
I fucking love it.

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>>51981421
For forgeworld knight houses e.g. that House from Mechanicum aligned to Tempestus

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>>51984263
Scary version?
the segmented plates are individual parts

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>>51984277
But ... Lascannons don't punch. Why not power- and chainfists ?

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>>51984425
>>51984451
In all the excitement over the mortar, I completely missed the lightning sentinals when I first looked at this thing's rules. That's some useful bonus anti-tank/anti-air firepower.

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>>51984537

And the last. This should hold you all over for a few hours.

>>51984575
Thanks anon!

>>51984575
Glory to thee noble man. I bid you well on all and any of your adventures, lad.

>>51978525
IT BEGINS, THANK YOU

>>51984476
Well it's kinda like punching. From a distance.
FREEEM

>>51984575
All glory to the Scannon!

>>51984575
The scan quality is superb, cheers.

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Yellowpill me on the Hammerfall Strike Force.
What's the best way to survive the early turn(s), and how easy is it to get your multiple simultaneous defensive deep strikes?

>Breachers vs cheap tac blobs?
>backfield HS squad?
>Can you and should you take drop pods?
>Should you bother with vehicles at all or limit it to flyers?
>Plasma/Melta MSU, Breacher swarms, or rely on survivable 3++ Termies?

What can you do differently with this rite that makes it worth using?

>>51982738
Looks fucked up, good job!

>>51984194
>världens bästa mamma
aaah thats sweet

>>51984906
>Yellowpill me on the Hammerfall Strike Force.
It's about as bad as RoWs get.

>>51982738
The face is more funy than anything else, but the armor is top notch. Only problem is the messy shoulder pad.

>>51984906
I would say dreadnoughts in drop pods to try to survive the first turn, but there's better rites of war to do that even. I don't know, man, I just don't know.

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Such Quality. Thank You Scananon.
Can't wait for PDF.

>>51984977
The problem is surviving the early turn and getting the deep strikes in en masse rather than piecemeal, Boreale-style, right?

Know any ways to game it?
And how would you write it differently so as to make it better (while still going for what the writers were aiming for)?

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>>51984906
Polux, Damocles Rhino, Proteus Explorator.

>>51985052
I don't know if Polux would do much, because you can't bring vehicles out of reserve with his power (AFAIK) and your infantry will already have access to deepstrike.
The other two vehicles were on my mind, but they themselves start subject to reserve rolls...

>>51984194
What language is that? Norwegian?

>>51985122
I was tempted to respond with a meme, but its in swedish, it says "worlds best mom" (for the record its a cup I got for my mom, not mine)

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>>51985110
Polux's trait regards mission limitations, not the Rite's. LR squadron including the Proteus packed with marines or terminators is good to go.
>captcha
kek

>>51985122
Not him, but Swedish.

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>>51984064
Wait, this shit is what they spent millennia to build? That's regular Cataphractii with Contemptor Havoc launcher bits.
The only new things are a helmet (for which alternatives aren't lacking) and a metal loincloth.

And FW had already said the Tyrants were going to be a brand new model, while the Fulmentarii would be an upgrade kit.

The Fulmentarii's mere """kit""" will have a billion laurels, engraved weapons and a shitton of inverse omegas, mark III my fucking words

>>51985157
>I was tempted to respond with a meme, but its in swedish,
You're making me tempted too now.
>Got it for my mom
Now that's cute, Sven.
>>51985171
My mistake.

>>51985167
You might be right about that.
FW haven't said anything about it, have they?

>>51985200
I agree, but at least "canon" Iron Tyrants don't make everyone's models look out of place or too plain.
They'll be good for conversions too. It looks like one of them has a cyborg leg.

>>51985167
Polux allows you to redeploy a unit from/to reverse, but the Hammerfall says vehicles must stay in reserves.
As such, Pollux's WT would only affect infantry units without transports in this case.

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>>51985157
Would it look different in Norwegian or Danish?

>>51985021
Apparently FW isn't even sure they want to remake the dreadnought drop pod molds. Is the model different enough from a normal drop pod to make a recast worth getting?

>>51985355
>Is the model different enough from a normal drop pod to make a recast worth getting?
It's bigger and the dread can stand inside it.

>>51985355
yea, but I don't speak either of the languages, probably it'd look similar but sound completely different.

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>>51985355
What exactly is the difference between Danish and Swedish? Is it similar to how the Slavs' vodka runes are somewhat the same?

>>51985395
like some 1200 years of language drift? roughly as similar as italian and french.

>>51985395
For starters, Danish is shit, Swedish is less shit.

>>51985409
Thanks.
>>51985416
Explain. How is Swedish slightly better to Danish?

>>51985449
swedish sounds like swedish chef from the muppets, danish sounds like the swedish chef from the muppets - but with several large hot potatos in his mouth. also because sweden>denmark because I'm swedish and we're like europes IW and IF.

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>>51978600
Perdornbo adamantly resists the Librarius.

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First time making a list; Traitor XX. Leaning more towards fluff than a competitive list. Yes I got Destroyers and yes I love conversion beams, fite me.

Augury Scanners seem a little silly. Heavy weapons get interceptor but not Assault? Or am I missing an FAQ or something?

>>51985464
Swedes are europes EC

>>51985491
You don't exactly hear of anti-aircraft SMGs do you? I'm guessing that heavy weapons are the only ones big/complicated enough to be linked up to the scanner.

>>51985514
historically sweden would be DA.
>>neutral forever.

however I said IW and IF because its a brutal rivalry stretching back over 500 years.
"There exists an inherited cultural competition between Sweden and Denmark. From 1448 to 1790 the two kingdoms were at war nearly at every chance, in more than one case a new king trying to prove his worth by waging war on the other country for little or no political reason." - the wiki.

>>51985361
it's not that much larger, the main reason dreads fit inside is the floor is significantly lower in the model, and the side support rails are not as large

>>51985521
I guess.

>tfw no hoplites gunning drop pods and dreadnoughts to death as soon as they enter the field

>>51985514
I thought Paris would be Europe's EC

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>>51985464
Thanks, Sven for telling me that.
>Swedes are Europe's IWs and IFs
Seems like a bold claim, Sven. At least you didn't say you were Europe's WEs. That's the French.

>>51985473
Post your list in a better format. No one will be bothered reading a mile long image for you.

>>51985549
>What are Cyber-Occularis.

Hey, there's a reason we don't spend every second scared of Custodes Teleport lists, man. 7" bubble is plenty to torch us some Dreads.

>>51985355
>Apparently FW isn't even sure they want to remake the dreadnought drop pod molds.
So what do we do?
Proxy plastic drop pods?

Or do we pester GW/pray to your deity of choice to make it plastic?

>>51985464
I thought Prussia was the IF?
Also, Britain are the Ultras.
>warborn (having been invaded three times)
>built the largest empire ever
>some of the finest war-leaders ever
>no one really likes them that much

>>51985617
>Also, Britain are the Ultras.
>implying it's not neo-Italia
>implying DG haven't been confirmed to be mainly from "Albia"

Also the IF were recruited from all over and captured Rome for the Emperor, so it's not really possible to say "they're from here".

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>>51981421

Not common but exceptions have happened (Xana paints all bots the same, very egalitarian)

If a knight house serves alongside a Titan legion for a long time they might be allowed to incorporate part of the legios heraldry into their own as Titan crews recognize how suicidal bringing a knight to a Titan fight is

>>51985617
They have the Prussian feels to them.

>>51985594
yep, just build one without the internals, possibly use a template or base of some kind for the right footprint

>>51985655
>when you do all that effort and you post it but that's only before you realised you fucked up twice
Shit.

>>51985655
So it is written, so it shall be. Praise.

>>51984425
That's just a normal admech tank, not with a secutarii requirement, right?

Kinda want to put a Admech-ised but clearly recognisable on those round doors

>>51985679
More than twice, but a valiant and respectable effort nonetheless. Praise be.

>>51985743
Yeah, that's now just a regular HS slot, if a pretty shit one since you'll probably have Thallax if you're bringing tanks, who do the same job. It's just not got 225 points of gun attached. Make the mortar AP3, now it's good. Really Lightning Guns should pick up an extra shot, that would make Thallax good straight up.

>>51984524
>AP5
>18" range
Nah.
If anything, the Shock ram is the scarier thing.
I like the rad artillery. Sure, it may be only AP4, but we must not accept the Thudd Gun's Phosphex AP3 bullshit as "normal".
The tank itself is as undecided as the goddamned Thanatar Calix, though

>>51985850
I see your point, but at the moment it's worse than some handheld weapons in a few Astartes Techmarines with Rad Missiles, and it's damn pricy for something that is eating an entire precious Heavy Support slot on it's own.

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I'm in a planning phase where I'm trying to come up with some army lists. Am I kitting out my Tactical squad of Bitter Boys too heavily?
Netting at 290 pts, I got them with the 10 additional muhreens, Chainswords for everyone, Sgt with artificer, melta bomb and power weapon. I'm probably overdoing it with the sergeant upgrades, am I?

>>51985942
Well, what's the rest of your list?

>>51985942
No, no you're not.
What's your kind of list? If you're doing Hammer of Olympia, it's fine, otherwise a reduction to 15 marines might be better.

~t. Tsundorne with similar proclivities

>>51985832
Heavy 3 blast, Ignores Cover, Fleshbane, Pinning, Rad-Phage, that's a lot of nice.

>>51985743
Bah, betrayed by the machine (uni)code!

I meant put a radiation hazard trefoil symbol

>>51985906
It is, but that's not this tank's (or self propelled mortar) fault.
Rather, the fault lies in the FW fucktard who tought servitors with a billion AP3 fleshbane missiles, AP3 mortars and such were balanced for the "20 man squads footslog and Terminators won't teleport normally", the game.

>>51985655
Amen

>>51985942
why is there a dog turd at his feet?

>>51986053
GET OFF MY LAWN YOU CRAZY FURRIES!

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>>51986053
Because he routinarily got the shitty jobs :^)

>>51978683
seals L-R top-bottom;

Terra - Mars - don't know - Pax Imperialis (cf Lex Imperialis, though Lex Imperialis may refer more directly to the Arbites) - Sisters of Silence (I assume, given your inferences) - Custodes Aquila (nobody else would have license to use it - even the loyal Legions were restricted in its use at this time) - personal seal of the Emperor Himself, Lex Imperator Vult "The Emperor's Will is Law"

it's possible that the one with the wreath is that of the Legiones Astartes, just as the winged skull opposite may be a forerunner of the Astra Militarum symbol, and therefore the symbol of the Imperial Army; it's likely that this document would include the seals of those organisations with the highest possible authorities, so that none could possibly question its limits or suggest that "without limit" was not in fact a literal interpretation of the decree

in a galaxy of billions of worlds and uncountable souls, there must be entire planets of lawyers, freemen on the land fantasists, and other reprobates who would otherwise need to have their faces smashed into things without express command of the Emperor to move, bitch

>>51985999

True, and if this was 40k I would give it a hug with my mechatendrils, polish it up to a blinding sheen and thank the Omnissiah for something to clear out those fucking Tau drones. As is, it's rather nice, but all those get you really is +1S, since without Marine-penning AP it's not ignoring useful cover, will struggle to pin Ld9 rerollable and is pretty much only fighting T4 so doesn't get much out of radphage.

I love the look, though, and I may get one just for adorable points and for annoying the hell out of the UM player who's just spent all his dad's money on Solar Aux. Just rankles a bit it's barely better than a single quad-mortar.

>>51986034

True, and I guess Mechanicum is Shooty AP2: The Shootening edition anyway, we don't really need it. I convert most of my stuff, so actually getting FW tanks is a big thing for me, because they're so expensive. Planning for a Macrocarid, but that's it. May find myself some chinacast, honestly, since I buy FW where possible but £90 for a 140 pt transport stings.

>>51978525
Scanon is the hero we need, but not the one we deserve
Praise him!

>>51986142
Im pretty sure that weird a stand for the Administratum, i remember it being in older artwork

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>>51985655
Alright, I tried again.

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>>51985981
I'm not done with it yet, still have to compile the Heavy Support section but here it is:
HQ:
-(207 pts) Warsmith [Terminator, combimelta, Masterwork PW/chainfist, Cortex controller]
-(165pts) Siege Breaker [Artificer, Melta bombs, x2 Phosphex, PW, Refractor field, Combimelta]

TROOPS:
-two of those 20 men muhreen squads
-(255 pts) Breacher squad [Meltagun, Lascutter, Artificer for sgt, breaching charge and PW without bolt pistol]

ELITE:
-(390 pts) x2 Contemptor Mortis with double Kheres and Havoc Launchers
-(190 pts) Termies [Autocannon]
-(165 pts) Rapier Batteries [x3 laser destroyers]

FAST ATTACK:
-Absolutely nothing

Sorry for the shitty format.
For a total of 1952 pts. Aiming for 2500, so I'll probably thin out my Elites. I want to fit in some iconic autocannon Havocs, a leviathan dreaddie and some artillery in the Heavy slots.

>>51985995
Yeah, going for Hammer of Olympia, I'm considering the idea of using the Onslaught FOC for that additional heavy slot.

>>51986053
Battlefields are not clean places.

>>51984266

I'm on the fence. 2k is probably the better place to start it, but it still might be worth it. A few hidden units to objective sit are not really wasted, and a better chance to go first with Infiltrated, Shrouded Sniper Vets is pretty nice. The Rhinos of the Recon squads aren't wasted I feel, 50 point Multi-Meltas that take dedicated fire to remove are solid.

>>51986282
We need to keep this meme going. Try one with the the navy seals copypasta.

Your 'don't know' is the Administratum's 'alpha' sigil. (Goodwin's design ftw)

>>51978711
>>51978672

Am I missing something, or did 25 titans become 20 titans somewhere?

Is there some super-revalation about the rest to come, or were they stripped for spares or what?

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>>51986280
ah you're probably correct, Mars and Terra/Civil and Military/special agencies of the Emperor makes more sense

>>51985557
> WE
>French
Arrogant sexually-depraved people = EC

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More stuff coming soon.

>>51986519
The French have been pretty bloodthirsty up into recently.

>>51986519
>Switzerland
>Legio II

>>51986524
>03-3-2017

Holy shit you're from the future ?! It's the 2nd here ! Well only for 2 more hours admittedly, but still ...

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>>51986524
You are the best.

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>>51986605

You do know I fake things so no-one can truly know where I am, right? It's actually the 2nd here.

>>51985395
Danish sounds just like swedish would've sound if you spoke swedish while deepthroating a horse. Infact, you can use a horsecock like an instant swedish-to-danish translation device.

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>>51986649
psss, that's nothing

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>>51986397

>>51986685
weird, always though Danish sounded more level that Swedish which has really sing song intonations.

>>51986524
My body is ready

>>51986605
warpfuckery, clearly.

Though we know scanon's not on Imperial Palace Time, or else the book would have probably arrived sooner

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Yeah, this Hammerfall list is a bit of a drag.
If it had an equivalent to Drop Pod Assault I think it could be useful, but it's too uncertain and inefficient in my opinion.

I might post a list at some point, but not yet.
The general idea I have at the minute is some hardened armour guys backfield with rapiers and missile launchers, a Leviathan Dropnought and Deathstorm Drop Pod, and several MSU melta support squads, with a handful of mini-deathstar phalanx warders and a mini termie-deathstar. Oh, and maybe a flier, either Fire Raptor or Caestus I think.
I have little experience with deep strike lists, to be honest.

>>51986765

How drunk did Leman have to get the Emperor to get him to sign that?

>>51986803
>Hey Dad, want a rematch on the drinking contest?

>>51986803
Maybe he was high on narcotics?
>>51986826
>Nah
>Powerclaws him back to sleep, again.

>>51986765
I'm laughing.

>>51986429
There were never 25, afaik. In the old fluff, Ordo Sinister had 12 non-psi Imperator titans, but that was in M41. That might still be what ends up happening in the future.

>>51986791

Technically Imperial palace time is GMT+6, which is the Himalayas.

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>>51986765
>this time you get two fucking letters the wrong way round.
Fuck it, no one will notice a lazy copy paste.
I mean, beyond the whole thing being a lazy copy paste.

>>51986888
They will, however, definitely notice a massive blank bit to the side.

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>>51986974
FUUUUUCK.

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>>51986888
And you got trips.
Here, have this one.

Crimson King comes out in June.

I'm trying to feel excited but that Magnus novella was so shit I've barely felt my pulse move.

>>51987010
I suppose it depends on who's writing it. Who's writing it?

>>51987027

McNeil.

Just rely in surperior FW fluff like the rest of us.

>>51987034
The fluff in Inferno is pretty decent, though some good arguments will be ahead. I'm looking forward to those glorious scans getting out so I can shitpost with you all about it.

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Anyone used either of the big Forge World tile fortifications? My Reductor are shaping up to be a fairly defensive army, and I feel I need to fortify my position somewhat.
Looking primarily at the one without the turbolaser, since I kind of want it to also be a"Staging Area" if I ever take this lot to Armies on Parade with the Filiketos, even if that thing is about display board sized on it's own.

>>51985942

Seen and fought that build almost exactly from my DGbro and sometimes ECbro a good few times, it does fine and terrifies my Adsecularis no end.

Also, holy shit, Legion troops are that expensive? Is that why you always seem to have so little on the table? I feel bad for complaining about Taxllax now. At least they are decent for tank hunting.

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>>51986280
Yep, it's in lexicanum

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>>51978525
>mfw


Also, fuck you OP for not putting "/hhg/" in the title, I missed this entire thread.

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Liveposting time now. As it's scanned, it goes up here. I'm doing this because I know this is what people have been bitching about/begging for the most. So enjoy your Cuckstodes and whatever the Sisters are.

>>51987205

I was the OP.

>>51987068
That's for a squad of 20 (125 + 10x10 pts) and they're all taking a chainsword without dropping their bolter (40 points right there). The sergeant has 25 points of upgrades, which is pretty normal.

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>>51987233
'Ere we go.

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>>51987213
Oh, so that's why you called dips to make the OP.
>Her skull has bone-markings
SoS a cute. CUTE.

>>51986851
That's Astronomican Time - the Golden Throne is on the site if GWHQ, so GMT.

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>>51987213
>I was the OP.

...
Ok, but I'm not swallowing and there's gonna be a lot of teeth.

>>51984329
How would I bling up w Skittarii to make this dude?

>>51987266

You haven't kept up to date with new fluff. The Imperial Palace was built into the Himalayas, and the Golden Throne is there. The UK is a mass of hive cities.

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>>51987294
>Ok, but I'm not swallowing and there's gonna be a lot of teeth.
That's what he said

>>51987310
I think the Astronomicon is supposed to have been carved into the largest mountain on Terra.

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>>51987287

>>51987344

Actually the Emperor had Everest partially levelled so it wouldn't be higher than any of the Spires of His palace.

>>51987345
Hey look it's that BFG:A quote.

>>51987221
True, but that's still a lot of points for a troops choice, although I suppose it's an effective combat unit as well.

>>51987344
Considering the Emperor directs the Astronomicon from the Golden throne, they're not too far away from each other
>>51987361
I think he flattened the top and still built on top of it. But also yeah, mankind is the master of the earth, not nature.

>>51987361
What, is there not enough gold in the entire galaxy to stack higher than Everest?

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A fellow Epic forumgoer has an upside-down inner cover. Anyone else have this issue?

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>>51987363
You see, anon, nobody has ever said anything worth making-a-motto in about 10000 years.

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>>51987345

>>51987409
Are you talking in-universe or out?

>>51987387
Jesus Christ, FW, the ride never end...

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>>51987420

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>>51987427
...yes?

>>51987310
Huh, yeah, I've just checked Lex (because it cites shit), Master of Mankind has the Imperial Palace built over Kathmandu

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>>51987444

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>>51987519

>>51986570
>“Terror is only justice: prompt, severe and inflexible; it is then an emanation of virtue; it is less a distinct principle than a natural consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing wants of the country.”

So, was Curze just some hardcore batshit insane Robespierre wanabee ?

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>>51987542

>>51985200
>>51985303
Yup. Considering the amount of time they spent on it (they even said that they were close before but scrapped it because they didn't look good enough) this is easily one of their laziest modeled squads (not counting upgrade kits).

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>>51987563

The big cheese himself.

>>51987561
All signs point to yes.

So what happens to a SoS if they say something without thinking?

>>51987569
Honestly some of the upgrade kits are less lazy than these. Although if they were to put more details on them they wouldn't be iron warriors

>>51987455
which is where? and remember it is continent sized (i remember when it was built over nottingham)

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>>51987593

Other Sisters silently perform giggling motions at them. The shame they experience as a result is so intense, they are driven to silently perform crying motions in a quiet, dark corner.

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>>51987581

>>51987593
It happens all the time, everyone just keeps quiet about it.

>>51987612
It's a real place in Nepal.

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>>51987616

>>51987344
The largest mountain is one of the islands of Hawai'i. (But it's not the tallest, in part because its base is so much lower.)

>>51987569
It's lazy, but the helmets are really, really good. And anything too highly decorated would've looked out of place - these are IW we're talking about. I just wish the missile launchers looked more unique.

But yeah, shouldn't have taken so long. Same with Inferno... if it's this sloppy after they got an extension, how bad was it in November?