/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

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What spells and feats should I take if I'm making an Arcane Trickster?

Thinking of making a Bugbear Kensai. Weapon choice I was thinking of taking Lance, Greatsword and Longbow but I'm not sure. I'm only taking Greatswords because magic ones seem pretty common.

Also do my Unarmed Attacks get the reach bonus ?

Should I take Crossbow expert at 4 and Sharpshooter at 6, or the ASI instead in place of one of them (I have +3 to dex)

What is the best fighter archetype for a sword-and-board general-purpose fighter?

>>51942260
Silent image, disguise self and feather fall.

>>51942412
Battlemaster has the most combat utility, EK probably has most utility overall if you're clever with your spells.

Of the UA, Knight is pretty good for boarding, you can protect your teammates pretty nicely with it.

But I would probably just say that you go Battlemaster.

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We're gonna be starting a group soon and have three high Charisma characters. When how many party faces is too many party faces?

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>Homebrew setting includes a race that is relatively young in the world and has a large emphasis of gathering knowledge, up til their experiences can be consolidated in memory-immortality colonies not unlike mini-mind flayers without the brain munching
>Much of the setting's details are written from an in-universe "academic" perspective, as if recorded by this race
Is this going to be cringy as fuck for the players or nah? I tend to enjoy the in-universe style of explanation.

>>51942223
Once again, OP forgets the
>/5eg/ Discord server
https://discord.me/5eg

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>>51942491
>I was literally just about to post it
Nice on, fampai.

Any complex trap ideas you've come up with since the UA came out, anons?

>>51942483
Sound sort of like Sylvari.

>>51942451
What about Samurai? It looks like it's decent and doesn't have a niche gimmick.

>>51942491
>forgetting
If only we could all be so blessed with ignorance.

>>51942531
Samurai wants you using a d12 weapon.

>>51942260
Find Familiar for advantage/sneak attack all day every day.

Minor illusion for obvious reasons. Sleep for the first four levels, get rid of it later.

>>51942260
Booming Blade + Bonus Action Disengage to make them trigger the extra damage.

>>51942561
Why? It says nothing about it.

>>51942531
It's pretty good for tanking, I admit that. But it lacks the general purpose usefulness Battlemaster has, for example.

It's basically a civilized Barb, even though it doesn't say so.

Why 5etools says that variant humans get +2 cha AND two +1s?

>>51942561
Longsword with both hands on it or bust.

Also Samurai best class.

>>51942615
Probably some mixup with Half-Elves.

>>51942593
I didn't say it requires it, I said it wants it. Having advantage on all melee attacks for a full round is best taken advantage of by using a weapon with a d12 damage die, because you're more likely to crit.

>>51942615
Because Megaanon doesn't have a proofreader and likes to copy and paste.

>>51942337
Unarmed Strikes make weapon attacks, but they're not weapons. Bugbears increase the range of weapon attacks, not weapons.

Why not 2d6?

>>51942587
That's what I thought too when I made my rogue but apparently any enemy with an intelligence higher than three knows how booming blade works and just uses a ranged attack. Still great when it does work though.

>>51942664
So, yeah? It's fucking annoying they don't just call them simple weapons or "Unarmed weapons". Makes the whole thing screwy.

>>51942643
But aren't 2d6s even better than 1d12s?

2d12 is more susceptible to bad rolls than 4d6, even though getting that double 12 would be satisfying.

Anyway, if you're gonna get a LOT of crits, it's better to have the sustained damage of 2d6 than 1d12, but that's just a personal opinion, really.

I'm an odachi person, myself, so Samurai with a Greatsword would be pretty much a no-brainer.

How is Samurai with PAM? Probably sickening, but asking anyway.

>>51942672
>>51942730
>playing a samurai that isn't Half-Orc
Dishonor on you and your entire family.

>>51942730
Samurai with PAM is a disgrace to his family.

A true samurai needs a bow, a horse, and a sword.

>>51942643
>using a weapon with a d12 damage die, because you're more likely to crit.

...Damage doesn't crit.

>>51942687
Yep. It does work.
>>51942362
Crossbow Expert will always do more DPR. Sharpshooter can be calculated to a particular AC for when it does more, and when it does less damage. However for a Battlemaster you can just chuck superiority dice at it using precision attack for the most part.
I can just calc it for you. With +8 to hit because of 5th level, 16 dex, and archery style, and 6.5 avg damage because of 1d6+3, the power attack on Sharpshooter does more until 20 AC with no advantage, and until 21 with advantage.
+1 dex mod does more than Sharpshooter at 20+ AC both with and without advantage. So unless you fight more enemies with 20+ AC than without Sharpshooter is better even ignoring Precision Strike.

>>51942761
Naginata (glaive) is a fine weapon for a girl samurai.

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is there any reason to dip more than one level of cleric as a wizard who wants to be able to heal? i get to reroll starting at level 8 and we need a healer

>>51942229
Meh, con is a universally useful stat, and dex is an almost universally useful stat. They're in no way worse off than, say, a paladin.

>>51942483
They're the most powerful race by far, right? They sound like they've clicked up to the Imperial Age before anyone else.

>>51942843
Nah, life cleric is crazy-go-nuts good for wizard.

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>>51942756
Oh shit. I admit, Samurai with 3d12 damage is pretty sick, but...
>Greataxe
Just no.

>>51942761
Naginatas. I know horse archery was the thing, but the class itself isn't really optimized for it. Sharpshooter would almost be better for a main Yumi user.

Also, Sentinel + PAM for ultimate salt. Unless they have pole weapons, they can't touch you. Advantageous OA:s at reach that stop opponents to 0ft of speed.

>>51942820
Naginata was the melee weapon of choice for most people, not just grills. Katana is just kind of enigmatic as the sidearm.

>>51942865
>Naginata was the melee weapon of choice for most people, not just grills.

Didn't know that, but that makes sense. I was walking with my wife earlier today wondering to myself, "why didn't they all just use naginatas for hand to hand?"

>>51942681
>>51942576
>>51942260
Booming Blade and Green Flame Blade annoy me.

>but apparently any enemy with an intelligence higher than three knows how booming blade works and just uses a ranged attack.

This for BB. If they don't move it's wasted. Granted you can be laying that down every single turn almost but still.

And GFB. What if there is only one target afield? Does nothing happen at all?

>>51942531
Samurai is actually good. If you're just a DPR machine that consumes Precision Strikes on Battlemaster when power attacking then instead of having 4 dice to spend, you can have 6 rounds of advantage attacking. If you have a bonus action attack this could be anywhere from 18 attacks, to 20 (with action surge) to 23 (with reaction attacks and surge).

If you have easy advantage from somewhere it becomes less useful with 3 rounds of resistance.

Is having 16 str and 14 con for a 5th level fighter acceptable or should I spend my 4th level ASI on a raise?

>>51942587
>I want to use my bonus action to attack with my offhand.

>>51942260
That reminds me. Can Arcane Trickster even dual wield? Does having another weapon in their offhand keep them from doing their spells?

>>51942882
Samurai had to train in multiple weapons, and most commonly used bows and polearms. Swords were good for walking through town, but for war, they had better options.

>>51942865
>greataxe
>not omi-yari lance
MAXIMUM DISHONOR

>>51942887
They're fucking cantrips.
They're competing with shit that does like 4.5 damage on a good day.
They're not supposed to be perfect.

>>51942901
acceptable but you'd like to get your STR up ASAP. what weapon are you using? if you're using a polearm, go sentinel/PAM. if anything else, i'd probably recommend more STR.

When will Wizards devote a UA to horror rules?

>>51942901
First priority is always getting PAM

>>51942927
Dubious necessity.

>>51942929
Fuck PAM and fuck whoever wrote it.

>>51942223
What's PAM

>>51942916
>Casts Green Flame Blade!
>Green Fire erupts from X's weapon and engulfs their quarry! It deals no damage and leaps into the air before dissipating harmlessly, having no other target to leap to!

Fucking, retarded.

>>51942798
Thank you! That was really helpful. I'll pick up Sharpshooter first and crossbow expert at 6 (or 8) then.

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>>51942971

>>51942972
>being so fucking stingy that a broadly useful cantrip has a narrow area (levels 1-4) where its not so hot against single opponents

Yep.

Maybe you're better off using that 1d6 necrotic damage cantrip with its special anti undead function!

>>51942911
For example, BIG-ASS swords.

>>51942914
Omi-Yari as a lance? A little dubious. It's much more like a glaive, to be honest, or a spear with the normal Yari.

>Not refluffing warhammer as a Kanabo
Although, Kanabo were so goddamn heavy that you couldn't really one-hand it. But on the other hand, it is definitely a martial weapon.

d12 Bludgeoning Kanabo, anyone?

>>51942507
Ok, first you offer the players a huge treasure. Like stuff nobody's even seen before.
Then you make them fight for it. Huge fight. Like armies being ground into dust in fields of blood.
And just when they think they'll finally get their reward, that's when you spring the trap on them.

>>51943004
The treasure IS the trap.

>>51942941
So's your face.

>>51943004
I've long thought about this.

I want to run a campaign where the PCs get a chance to loot a dragon hoard, but actually... doing... anything with it, or getting it anywhere, is crazy difficult. 4 people find more than their body weight in gold, how are they going to get it anywhere? Crazy dangerous, especially if they don't already have strongly loyal mercenaries.

>>51942906
BB actually does more depending how accurate you are, like a power attack, since it's 4.5 + mod + 4.5 without movement where if you have no feats dual wielding is 3.5 + mod + 3.5. Sneak dice are worth more the more accurate you are, so depending on AC, and advantage BB either does slightly more, or somewhat less even if it doesn't trigger. You either do a good chunk more, or you lock down a melee dude.

>>51943039
First, they possibly have a wagon and/or horses. Second, if they defeated a fucking dragon, they might as well use its lair as a home base from now on.

>>51942763
Advantage makes you more likely to crit. However, that .5 damage from using 2d6 actually requires a level 9 half orc barbarian or something excessive to get anywhere near a wash. Overall either one is really close in damage.

>>51943055
Forgive me I'm a bit retarded.
Are the 4.5 and 3.5 average dice rolls?

and how did >>51942587
intend to make disengage work with Booming Blade? Just Hope their target follows them to trigger it?

>>51942944
I'm saying it again. Ban it, and replace it, or add more feats that compete.

>>51943000
Wasted trips on being a dumbass. Naturally a Kanabo/Tetsubo would be a Maul. Dumbass me.

Still the best weapon.

>>51943099
Booming Blade is very good for dedicated melee foes, and for keeping enemy casters still with Mage Slayer.

Its not so good with switch hitters.

>>51943099
Yeah, the average is half +.5, so 1d8, and 1d6. Early on, or with DM created enemies it might seem like guards can shoot a bow just as good as swing a longsword, but later on there are various enemies with megarape flails, but 1d8+4 bows.

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This is my preferred stat array, there are many others like it but this one is mine.

>>51943143
Better then some barbarians I've seen, honestly.

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>>51943143
Ultra-peasant coming thru.

>>51943143
>Standard Human

>>51942972
Uh... Still does the weapon's damage to that target...

>>51943161
>>51943163
>>51943153
Preferred Class Fighter/Rogue

>>51943143
Medium armor wearing, greatsword wielding, Barbarian, with magic initiate for find familiar, and some int requiring cantrips, that needs 13 wis to multicllass into druid to get moon wildshapes that really wants to be able to chat people up.

>>51943143
Link to the calculator?

>>51943191
http://1-dot-encounter-planner.appspot.com/point-buy-calculator.html

>>51943200
Thanks.

>>51942972
Alright, my dude. It's literally this. You hit them, you put out some fire, they take normal, and fire damage. No one else there? No one else gets hit. Yes this only makes sense at 5th+ where it applies damage to the main target on hit from then on.
https://youtu.be/1exBd8Lx1sM?t=1m59s

>>51943118
>Its not so good with switch hitters.
Like an Arcane Trickster?
>>51943120
Thought so, thanks. Where were you getting 1d6 for the offhand attack? (You could use another Rapier for 1d8) and I thought you only added your proficiency bonus rather than your ability modifier?

>>51943246
Without feats to use two weapon fighting both the weapons you use might be light, which caps it at 1d6. With a feat investment you can use two rapiers for 1d8. You still add your ability modifier to hit when two weapon fighting, but you don't add it to damage without a fighting style.

>>51943161
Keep in mind the average array is +7 total, so even though that's +2 as the highest the overall stat is +10 which is kind of crazy. Really that type of array isn't really an ultra peasant its more someone so talented they've never had to develop a specialty because they've excelled at everything they've ever tried.

>>51943246
>Like an Arcane Trickster?

No I mean, its not so good against them, I should say.

>>51943200
>>51943143
>>51943191
>Doesn't let you go higher than 15

>>51943277
That's how point-buy work RAW.

>>51943277
You need racial modifiers to do that. Those are the rules in the players handbook, you can't start with a stat higher than 15.

>>51943165
Well yeah, the original attack yes. But does it add anything else before level 5? It doesn't specify and it's vague.

>On a hit , the target suffers the attack's normal effects,

As in the regular attack, or the spell attack's normal effects.
As in your Spell Attack Ability Modifier?

>>51943312
kek

>>51943268
Ah I get you. Enemies that don't give a damn if they suddenly can't move.

But I'm curious now how a DM would decide whether a creature knows to move out of it or stay still.

I could easily see someone ignorant wanting to get the fuck away from energy surrounding their space.

>>51943266
>both the weapons you use might be light
Right you are.

>>51943333
Depends on how many Arcane Trickster dickass thieves plant sound mined under people's feet, and if people even pay attention to things like that in a world full of Dragon Gods, and necromancer armies.

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What spells are best for a fiendlock with a cultist flavor? I'm pact of chain if it matters at all.

>>51943312
>Well-written

>>51943362
Lightning Hand guys facial expression reminds me of a toddler

Is there a quick list/compilation anywhere for the stats of all the familiars you can get with Find Familiar?

My friend invited me to a 5e campaign.

Should I roll a Kenku Bard, College of Satire? Or should I value my life?

>>51943490
Don't use Kenku for a gimmick involving speaking. It's too one-note and you'll get stuck with a near-mute character.

A Kenku mime, on the other hand, would be incredible.

Does shoving count as an attack roll?

How far into absurdity has a member of your party taken Use Magic Device's rules to use something clearly normally not meant for them?

>>51943569
You can shove as part of your attack action.

>>51943569
Shoving a Creature.
Using the Attack action, you can make a special melee attack to shove a creature, either to knock it prone or push it away from you. If you’re able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.

The target of your shove must be no more than one size larger than you, and it must be within your reach. You make a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target’s Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use). If you win the contest, you either knock the target prone or push it 5 feet away from you.

>>51943569
It is an attack, but not an attack roll.

>>51943597
>>51943619
Any sources that can support these claims?

>>51943614
>>51943599
Yeah, but what I'm interested in if Fighting Spirit gives me an advantage to this check or not.

>>51943333
Arcana check.

>>51943625
>Any sources that can support these claims?

>Using the Attack action, you can make a *special melee attack* to shove a creature
>no attack roll is involved

Also here:
http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/06/08/shove-grapple-attacks/

>>51943625
>Using the Attack action, you can make a special melee attack to shove a creature, either to knock it prone or push it away from you. If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.

Its a special type of attack that must be made during an attack action.

>>51943625
>Any sources that can support these claims?
Dude I just gave you the info here >>51943614
>Using the Attack action, you can make a special melee attack to shove a creature

>>51943670
It's an attack, but the question was if it counts as an attack roll. It doesn't.

>>51943691
Would the athletics check itself not count as the attack roll?

If I knew the specifics of Fighting Spirit (couldn't find it in phb) I'd be able to make a judgement call.

It's ambiguous at the very least though so either No, or houserule

How're artificers?

>>51943719
There is no attack roll involve, why would it be count as attack roll???

>>51943724
A good start but a bit on the weak side overall.

>>51943719
No, it is a skill check, not an attack roll. Fighting spirit does not give you advantage on shoving an enemy.

>>51943719
http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/SA_Compendium.pdf

Are attack rolls and saving throws basically specialized ability checks?

>They aren’t. It’s easy to mistake the three rolls as three faces of the same thing, because they
each involve rolling a d20, adding any modifiers, and comparing the total to a Difficulty Class, and they’re all subject to advantage and disadvantage. In short, they share the same procedure for determining success or failure. Despite this common procedure, the three rolls are separate from each other. If something in the game, like the guidance spell, affects one of them, the other two aren’t affected unless the rules specifically say so. The next few questions touch on this point again.

When you make a Strength (Athletics) check to grapple or shove someone, are you making an attack roll?

> Again, the answer is no. That check is an ability check, so game effects tied to attack rolls don’t apply to it. Going back to an earlier question, the hex spell could be used to diminish a grappler’s effectiveness. And if the grappler’s target is under the effect of the Dodge action, that action doesn’t inhibit the grapple, since Dodge doesn’t affect ability checks.

>>51943734
>>51943762
>you can make a special melee attack

why indeed

>>51943777
Welp that solves it for me.

ignore >>51943783

>>51943783
> can't differentiate between attack and attack roll

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I bet you can't tell the [melee weapon] and [melee weapon attack] apart too.

>>51943792
>making yourself look as stupid

/r/ character direction advice
Warlock6/Rogue3 (64HP)
STR8, DEX18, CON14, INT14, WIS12, 18CHA
Arcana, Deception, History, Religion, Stealth
Pact of the Blade, Fiend, and Arcane Trickster
Thirsting Blade (two attacks per action), Mire of the Mind (slow), One With Shadows (invisible in dim/darkness)
Armor of Agathya, Sleep, Disguise Self, Mirror Image, Vampiric Touch

if I were to level, where would it be most effectively spent? taking rogue for the attribute boost, or should i level warlock and make any reconfigurations to my spells/invocations?

Hey guys. Newish player here. The DM asked us each for a list of five magical items we would like to see/aquired in our campaign and I've got no idea which ones to pick.

I'm playing a Goblin UA Ranger (Hunter Conclave). I know the obvious ones like bracers of archery and gloves of Dexterity but I'm not really familiar with the others. Got any reccomendations for me?

>>51943015
>Boy mimic that dresses like a girl mimic
Print it

>>51943847
If you want to go warlock-rogue, generally the best way to do it is about warlock5/rogue15 since after level 5 warlock no longer gives you any more damage unless you reach warlock level 12. At which point it feels more warlock levels and not being pact of the blade might've been better for level 9 spells.

>show up with a character that has a pet dog and is not a ranger
>DM starts REEEEEEing something about animal companions

>>51943861
As a rogue, +1/+2 ammo is always nice, but you don't really want a finite magical item.

Can't really go wrong with the good ol' bag of holding.

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Hi guys, rate my character. Be thorough and objective. I'm interested in both crunch and fluff.

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>>51942223
Trying to make a faithful portrayal of Harley Quinn. Basically I need a class and background that allows for a character who is both acrobatic, intelligent, and also proficient in use of the Warhammer. High DEX for sure, good intelligence, and needing something that substitutes STR for DEX.

I was going to make her a Swashbuckling Rogue with the UA Warhammer Master feat, but Warhammer isn't a finesse weapon, so sadly it doesn't work with Sneak Attack... other ideas?

>>51943952
Kensai monk would let you use a Warhammer with Dex but isn't really thematically appropriate relying on Wis as well.

>>51943847
>>51943901
Actually, just remembered thirsting blade probably doesn't work with non-pact-weapons.
That kinda sucks. Not even the longbow invocation is really worth it because it's not a handcrossbow and you can only make it a +X weapon with invocations.

Honestly sounds like bladesinger6/rogue14 or paladin6/swashbuckler14 or one of those sorcerer gishes or... Most other things would be better than warlock because of that. But, eh, I guess some people insist on playing rogue in melee nowadays anyway without GFB/BB.
But warlock with a 2 level dip of rogue for cunning action for kiting was always a cool idea.


In any case, just put whatever whereever. Just remember rogue gets uncanny dodge at 5 for tankiness, warlock gets a power boost at 12.

>>51943952
What you've got is a jumbled mess of a concept that won't mesh well with mechanics.

>>51943952
6 levels of bard, use magical secrets to pick up shillelagh.
Rest of levels in paladin.

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Are you FUCKING serious? No mystic AGAIN

Fuck off, this shit wasn't funny 3 months ago.

Can someone call Crawford a worthless cunt on twitter for me?

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>>51944003
>Can someone call Crawford a worthless cunt on twitter for me?
Do it yourself.

>>51943929
Seems competent enough.

Damage output seems a bit low, but you seem to be aiming for a tank role anyway, so that's OK.

I like the fluff you've added everywhere (especially the little personal notes under the weapons about how he fights).

>>51943929
you said 'once' twice in the same sentence

>>51943277
>>51943293
>>51943296
I actually like this, since in practice you seriously cannot rely on a 15+, and it makes point buy closer to how randomness is in theory.

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Does homebrewing a Warhammer with finesse instead of versatility sound broken? Any downsides to that? It's just a rapier at that point. Perhaps some homebrewed feat that allows me to use either finesse or veratile, but not both at once? Are there any magic items that work in such a way?

>>51943987
This is another good option, if it was INT instead of WIS then combat wise, it would almost be perfect.

>>51943996
I'd settle for acrobatics and a warhammer, I don't think that's too crazy

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So has anyone here used myconids?

>>51943929
>19 ac

???????? Im relatively a newb in dnd but how ? Fullplate + shield ??

>>51944134
thats splint + shield, fullplate would give him one more

A defensive style paladin with full plate can make it up to 23 easy without magic items

>>51944154
Okay i really need to revisit the ac section in the phb.... i thought 15 was high for a low lvl...

>splint

?

>>51944169
Splint mail.

>>51944169
16 AC is merely okay tier for low level. Fighter start at 16 with chainmail. Monk should start at 16. Even Sorcerer or Wizard should start at 16.

>>51944124
No, but I'm planning to.
I fucking love mushroom people.

>>51944198
What about barbarians with no armor ?

And wizards ? How can do ?

>>51944228
Barbarian get resistance and high hp. AC is not really important for them.

Mage armor + 16 DEX on Wizard.

>>51944257
Why on earth would a wiz take dex ?

>>51944271
Because inits and AC.

>>51942906
>That reminds me. Can Arcane Trickster even dual wield? Does having another weapon in their offhand keep them from doing their spells?

From what I can remember off the top of my head, RAW it does, but I've yet to meet a DM who didn't ignore that because it's stupid and irritating.

>>51944284
At the cost of lover spell DC and fwwer spells ?

>>51944293
You can easily has 16 INT and 16 DEX. Are you high or something?

Are there any prestige classes related to cold and storms?

>>51944293
Excuse me? You're capped at 15 before mods, obviously, so its not going to affect your spells in any way.

A wizard is best off starting with dex 16 and int 16 or thereabouts.

>>51944297
Well you can at the cost of being almost -1 in everything else..

>>51944306
You are still high. You could have 16 INT and DEX and no - at all.

My tomboyish monk is like Goku she's really dumb but pure. Still doesnt know how babies are made. She's close to our trap half elf paladin. He looks like a young girl. We are the fanservice bait of the party. Trap and reverse trap. We even bathe and sleep together

>>51944318
Yeah sorry... my main point was a wizard should have some sensible points in wis and maybe cha too.. if i dont minmax

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>>51944325

>>51944325

man keep that shit in /pfg/

>>51944018
Thanks. I don't really care for damage, and I don't really like 2H.

>>51944037
Thanks!

>>51944134
That would be 20 if I spend my reaction, or 18 if I switch the shield for a lantern and spend my reaction, and 17 if I dont.

>>51944343
Your main point was soundly disproven once it was revealed you didn't know what you were talking about.

>>51944343
Wizards have been taking CHA dumps since Merlin, and WIS dumps are easily justified for someone who's spent most of their life on learning instead of living. It's easier to justify dumping your extra mental scores on a Wizard than it is to justify dumping strength on one for flavour, with how much time they spend hauling books around.

>>51944325
Don't worry anon, everyone else might be looking down on you, but I eagerly await the day I can play ridiculous gestalt ERP games using the 5e ruleset instead of the broken mess Pathfinder is.

>>51944372
True. But in my defense i imagined a wizard like gandalf.. low str dex and high everything else

>>51944343
High Elf
8 16 13 16 12 10

>>51944387
> Gandalf
> low str and dex
What? The guy who run around swing sword killing stuff?

>>51944387
>Gandalf
>low STR & DEX

How the fuck did he kill all those orcs? Or a troll? Or the fucking Balrog?

>>51944387
>But in my defense i imagined a wizard like gandalf

Gandalf (an angel that did not, in fact, learn spells) isn't remotely like a D&D wizard (a mortal that learned spells). The Middle Earth analog to a wizard is Galadriel.

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How would you do a drunken fist archetype for monk?
Ignore the poison immunity they get later

>>51944417
Galadriel is even more powerful than Gandalf.

>>51944363
>spend your reaction

Never played fighter/samu so pls forgive my ignorance.. could you elaborate ?

I got an amazing roll of 15, 14, 14, 10, 11, 18. What're some fun things I could do with it? I've never been much of a CHA guy. My group has a Bladelock but no other characters planned out yet.

>>51944439
It's his blade mastery (UA) feat.

>>51944441
>I've never been much of a CHA guy.
So put the 10 to CHA and allocate the rest to your preferred stats.

>>51944441
> rolling for stats
> but not rolling in order
Your group already hate fun, so whatever.

>>51944452
Ah... im unfamiliar with UA.. should i read it ? Am i missing much ?

>>51944471
>it
UA isn't what you think it is.

>>51944458
Sorry, I should've specified. We rolled in order. Unlimited rerolls but I try not to take advantage of them unless I get stats so bad that I don't think I could have fun with them.

>>51944477
An additional book extension... no ?

>>51944430
>Literal Angel Vs Elvish Witch
I don't know about you but my money would be on the Angel, not the Elf

>>51944486
Unearthed Arcana is a series of articles published online by members of the D&D dev team. It isn't a singular entity, but a collective.

>>51944486
No it's playtest material WOTC gives out free every week, for feedback from the player base outside of their paid playtesters.

>>51942865
What is Sentinel?

>>51944512
Sentinel is one of the better feats for martials.

>>51944485
How horrifying. Sounds like a great way to have a really unbalanced party with people being forced to play classes they don't want to.

>>51944509
Would you recommend looking up these extensions for a DM that is currently running his first 3 month old campaign with a group of players that literally didnt even see the phb cover ?

>>51944494
I'd put my money on Galadriel, if the goal was destroying an entire fortress in a tersely worded sentence that implies she used magic to do so, or if the goal was to ward an area of land.

I'd put my money on Gandalf if it was TAKING SEVEN DAYS TO KILL A BALROG HOLY SHIT but seriously he had to have good stamina.

>>51944535
Fuck no.

Tavern Brawler give EXPERTISE with improvised weapons

thoughts

>>51944551
>weapon expertise
Not now, not ever.

>>51944535
In a word, no.

They aren't quite balanced and each has their own individual problems that make them a pain in the ass to work with.

Personally i'm holding out hope for several revisions to most of them, but i'm not holding my breath either.

If a player approaches you asking to play with one, treat it with the same suspicion you would a random piece of homebrew found online.

>>51944535
Yeah like>>51944540
said definitely not.
>>51944537
No a fight Gandalf versus Galdriel, to the death. I think Gandalf would win, hands down no contest, Galdriel had sway over her forest but i very much doubt she could take on a Balrog and win, very few combatants, magical or ottherwise, were ever described, in any Tolkien material, of being capable of that feat.

>>51944551
I'm pretty sure there's an errata which says that expertise doesn't actually exist.

Divination Wizard is the best. What is your favorite Portent trick?

>>51944569
>If a player approaches you asking to play with one

They havent even seen the phb cover yet. They are entirely dependant on me. They are great RP ers with very good humor, but i handle all the progress. They rarel use their racial skills even

>>51944598
>They havent even seen the phb cover yet.

Why the fuck not? The first word in the title is 'player' for a reason.

>>51944586
Quite possibly, a wizard's strength isn't on 1v1 fighting anyway. But I would always rather have Galadriel on my side than Gandalf.

>>51942473
not a problem if they each specialize in the 3 social actions, persuasion, intimidation, and deception

Now you got that good cop, bad cop dynamic with that wiley cop thrown in

>>51944551
Can I use NPCs as improvised weapons?

>>51942473
Depends entirely on the group & DM. If you play more social encounters/RP than combat that works out pretty nicely.

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>>51944609
Where i live (slovakia) dnd doesnt exist.. literallly we 6 are the only ppl i know who even knows what tg rpg is... i was the one that introduced them to dnd via a simple session. Ive been handling their characters ever since. They just say what class they want to play and we stick to it.. but its ok cause im lucky if we play a game once in a month. They just dont bother reading the phb because the "dm already knows his shit and we know the gameplay rules"

>>51944657
Sorry for being rude earlier, didn't know you were from another country.

>>51944325
>fanservice
Your DM has enough fans for your games to need fanservice?

>>51944667
Not like it influences anything... it just sucks that dnd is little known here.. so im stuck with these players

>>51942761
What about a Half-Orc with a Kanabo?

For megaanon: Could sorting items by attunement or non-attunement be possible? It's nice to know there are other nice items like Boots of Elvenkind or Periapt of Proof Against Poison that don't need attunement without going through the whole list.

>>51944325
We just do this during down time when were in our estate

>>51944657
Fair enough dude. Have you considered finding an online game via skype or something?

>>51944325
Ill drawfag this one of these days.

>>51942260
Booming blade and Spell sniper so you can use it with whips.

>>51944783
I tried roll20 but... meh its not the same as sitting at a table eating shit slavic snacks and just laughing at each other. Not bad, but its not the shit either..

I'm pretty bored at work. I'm gonna do that thing that other anon was doing for a while.

Give me a couple of sentences about your character and I'll tell you a magical item I'd give them during a campaign.

>>51944964
Gnoll (Bugbear stats) Monk. He was a member of the Private Military that basically dominated "Free Market City" and is trying to become a master athlete.

>>51944964
Bard, Valor school, LOVES fights and always provokes one. then proceeds to boast with his victories in forms of songs. preferred weapons 2handed, long, the more raw dmg the better... also medium armored. loves collectiong remains of fallen foes

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>>51944993
sounds like you're making a klingon

Is there no variant human monk build that doesnt use this stat spread?
STR 10
DEX 16
CON 14
INT 8
WIS 16
CHA 8

>>51944964
Outcast Dwarf Lore Bard. Interested in the mechanics of magic since manipulating divine and arcane magic is simple imitation rather than faith/study/natural magical talent. Abuses vicious mockery and cutting words instead of weapons in a Batman-No Guns sort of thing.

>>51944975
Monkey Staff: A quarterstaff you can extend it to double length as a bonus action. It remains versatile, and gains reach. While in the lengthened form, you have advantage on Acrobatics and Athletics checks.

The doubling lasts for up to an hour and can be performed once a day.

>>51944993
Skull of Song: A skull with a hole drilled into the back, with a small pipe inserted. You can sing into the pipe, and amplify your boasts - if you don't already know the cantrip Vicious Mockery, you may cast it while you hold the Skull of Song. It doesn't count against your cantrips known.

You may select an additional target when casting Vicious Mockery.

Elderly human Long Death monk who wants to be one with Death itself. He wants to understand its nuances

>>51944343
Your point is wrong, especially considering the others forgot to even mention that you need DEX to land (ranged) touch attacks, which many spells require.

>>51945064
Tinkerer's Glove: While wearing the glove, you can use your action to place a rune trap on the ground within 5 feet. Choose a cantrip you know when you set the trap.

During your turn, you may use your bonus action to activate the trap. It casts the cantrip on a target within 5 feet that you select, using your statistics where relevant. The trap is then destroyed.

If the cantrip may have different effects, you must choose these when setting the trap.

>>51944003
Every week we dont get that psionic magical realm garbage is a good week.

>>51945152
How are Psionics magical realm, exactly?

>>51945180
Something something mind control fetish something.

>>51945109
Death Shroud: As an action, wrap the Shroud around yourself. Your body takes on the appearance of death. Your soul may wander from your body up to 100 feet. You see through your soul's eyes and are invisible, but you are unable to hear normal words and sounds, and unable to speak with the living.

Your soul has immunity to non-magical attacks. While you are away from your body, any damage to it does not affect you. However, when you re-enter your body, any damage to it, including decay should you be gone too long, takes effect. Sufficient damage will result in immediate death.

>>51944964
This one! >>51943929

Or, alternatively, Mountain Dorf Hexbladelock/Stonesorc. With the help of ancestral spirits of the mountain, he's out to retrieve the legendary granite crown encircled with bands of aquamarine and menacing with spikes of steel. Which actually may or may not exist, the legends are unclear.

>>51944325
>High Wisdom
>But doesn't know how babies are made

True purity is not failing to acknowledge the world, but instead knowing the world and being able to resist it. Otherwise, bimbos-in-the-making would be 'pure'.

>>51945146

>you need DEX to land (ranged) touch attacks

Uh, I assumed 5E where that shit is based off your spellcasting ability modifier

>>51945309
Shes quick on her feet but dumb in some aspects. Doesnt help that the party keeps on shielding her virgon eyes and ears

>>51945268
Wanderer's Cloak: While wearing this cloak, no one will pay attention to you unless given a good reason. City guards will not stop you, thieves will not steal from you, bartenders will not notice you.

As a bonus action, you may cast your Cloak off. Until the end of your turn, you do not provoke Opportunity Attacks, and you have advantage to hit with your next attack.

>>51945326
In terms of attributes they sound more of a moderate intellect, low wisdom, high dexterity character.

>>51944829
Make items for these two >>51944325

>>51942223
I'd like to revisit her traps.

What's the best paladin background, race, oath, and build for romancing villainous qts?

>>51945328
That vaguely felt like an insult, but I can't determine why.

Anyway, cool! And useful, a rare combination in these days!

>>51945370
Charlatan, Human/Elf/Half-elf, Ancients (chillax and share some weed) or Vengeance (hatefuck the evil out of villains).

>>51942483
It could be cute if you make them cute.

>>51945370
>What's the best paladin background, race, oath, and build for romancing villainous qts?
>background
Entertainer. Serenade your way to her heart
>race
Half-Elf. +2 Cha, obviously
>oath
Devotion. Seduction is a form of mercy, right?
>build
Highest Cha possible, obviously

>>51942756
Once you go green, your soul's never clean

>>51942882
>I was walking with my wife earlier today wondering to myself, "why didn't they all just use naginatas for hand to hand?"

I was fucking my wife in the ass just last night while snorting lines of coke, and I wondered "why would an Anon invent such an outlandish story about being married to convey an opinion on historical weapons use?"


Also, should I ever allow Yuan-Ti slut PCs, or can nothing good come of promoting snek and snek accessories?

>>51945381
I felt like your character was the sort who might wander from town to town seeking purpose, going unnoticed until a showdown. It seemed appropriate that the townsfolk wouldn't care until he was needed.

>>51945460
>having a wife is outlandish
It was unnecessarily descriptive, but its a pointlessly mundane thing for him to invent.
>>51945434
Exactly, "muh honour in combat" is all a half-orc samurai has. Ain't ever going to be respected as a noble, not going to get a cushy diplomat job, not going to marry his kids in to a better family if he ever even has them.

>>51944426
I can homebrew one if you like. I will now just throw ideas. No levels thrown in because these are just preliminary ideas.

Poison resistance is must, that would be like 3rd level thing. And of course no detriment to melee fighting while drunk.

Make them slightly more MAD where they also need constitution?

Drunken reed: bonus to AC while drunk, hell, maybe like 1/4 of Monk level, so +5 at 20th level.

Unpredictable movements: Opportunity attacks against them have disadvantage?

Knock-out punch: If you fail to stun with stunning strike, you can make the opponent reroll the saving throw. Once per short resr feature.

All these dodging things, but that's mostly what Drunken master gives to me. Impossible to hit.

>>51944325
>sleep together
She'll find out where babies come from soon enough then. Give her a few months, and then Boom! Disadvantage on Acrobatics checks.

What would the appropriate costs be of being members of a monster slaying organization / adventurers league / etc?
A monthly fee? A percentage of loot?

In exchange for beds, information, discounts at associated businesses, etc.

>>51944387
Nigger, Gandalf was jacked as fuck. He LITERALLY beat a fallen angel to death with his angelic wizard cock and a Magic sword.

>>51944494
She could just use ancient Noldor sexual arts to bamboozle him

>>51945505
Occasional grunt work? A percentage of take seems hard to track unless the guild is sending along auditors on big quests, which would make a funny campaign but probably not for everyone.

How would I emulate anime sword fights in 5e?

>>51945553
Grab some of SoS's stuff but turn down the wounds except for criticals and jack up your basic stats.

>>51945503
Paladin sees her as a "girlfriend" they both go shopping for womens clothes together. They don't fuck.

>>51945553
According to at least one resident shitposter you just need to fight multiple opponents at once with your battlemaster.

>>51945553
How anime do you want to be?
Champloo or Sword of the Stranger is just all in the description, but beams and shit needs other stuff.

>>51945564
What's SoS's stuff? And shall do. Thanks, dude.

>>51945602
Song of Swords, it's a gritty melee sim but not D&D, but you can probably grab a lot of their fighting content (they use maneuvers like hilt pushes instead of 'attack' and deal injuries instead of damage). This >>51945599 plus homebrew could also work.

>>51944385
>tfw theorycrafting a paladin with that homebrew oath of love for precisely this reason
>tfw also came up with a prostitute background for other reasons but plan on using it
Turns out LG stands for lewd girl as well as lawful good.

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>>51944082
I don't really want to help you, but no. And monk is probably optimal, but bladesinger works if you have high rolls. No homebrew really needed.

>>51945417
>>51945396
Don't the high CHA pallies go DEX for attacking to save on points? Is DEX sexy enough, or is STR the clear choice?

>>51945586
Trust me, it'll happen. He'll wake up full of just in the middle of the night and plunder her nethers.

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>>51945721
>just
Lust!

>>51945463
Huh. Strange. I thought I portrayed a dashing hero who'd run head first into danger and attract ALL the attention, sort of like Galavant.

...and the cloak would counterbalance that so he doesn't get in too much trouble for poor decision making. Makes sense either way I guess. Kudos!

>>51945721
The pally is a cross dresser, a beautiful one at that. He may be gay but he wouldnt fuck his "lil sistah". Monk girl sleeps in the nude too.

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>>51945599
>all in the description
Yeah, I have to use the battlemaster lunge feature if I want to end someone rightly.

>>51945729
No, he was right. Paladin that's not full of just is a shit paladin.

>>51945705
Depends on what you are aiming for. DEX+CHA would yield a graceful, slender figure with fluid movements, STR+CON+CHA ranges from hairy viking type to chiseled body of an angel, depends on how much CHA, and the size ranges from average to Gaston, depends on CON.

>>51945744
>Monk girl sleeps in the nude too.

Even a la la homo fruit can't resist such a lascivious display. She'll feel his feminine dick, mark my words!

>>51945747

I applaud the use of obscure HEMA memes bud

>>51945818
Less obscure if you read comments on youtube.

>>51945790
DEX doesn't sound sexy enough. It'll have to be STR, then. Thank goodness the half-elf has those flex bonuses.

>>51945842
What if it's a feisty acrobat that can assume any position, all of them?

>>51944610
Even if a wizards isn't, setting aside that Gandalf while a wizard, was also an angel, it does seem to be one of Gandalfs strengths he took down a fucking Balrog one on one, permanently, thats a feat few accomplished, and one I'm not sure Galadriel was capable of.

>>51944610
Gandalf was a Maiar (literally an angel). The entire reason why he could even take the Balrog on at all was because he was on the same power level as it (Balrogs are also lesser maiar).

Galadriel is powerful, but shes 'just' an elf with a Ring of Power.

Outside of Sauron and Tom Bombadil, Gandalf and the other wizards are the most powerful beings in all of Middle Earth.

>>51945878
Gandalf was also stated to be the most powerful Maiar among the Istari, he was just too humble to use it, or even realize that he had it, until he came face to face with the fucking Balrog.

>>51945878
I always like the idea of Gandalf being an Arcane Trickster or similar who's just an incredible liar. Cantrips are enough to intimidate most into going along with what he says, and he bullshits about defeating powerful foes when no-one's looking.

So I took the Urchin background and what mechanical benefit does he mouse give?

>>51946430
+1 cuteness.

Realistically, it's more of a roleplay item. You could use it for pranks, distractions, maybe like a familiar in some ways.

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>>51946595
my dm allowed a different rodent

HELP

a noob needs help explaining this game, what are archetypes ??

does every class have them ? how do ? is multikclass = archetype ?

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>>51946670
Archetypes are basically subclasses, and every class has at least 2 options in the PHB. In later books and in the Unearthed Arcana (A weekly post where the writers share playtest material), more options for archetypes are revealed.

Each class has multiple choices, and you can have only one archetype per class.

Multiclassing means having multiple different classes, but having two archetypes from the same class is impossible as of now.

>>51946694
>every class has at least 2 options in the PHB

Ehhh. Not all of them are really archetypes, though.

So /tg/, Arctic Circle Druid Lvl 8 with 16 Wis. Do I improve that Wis or get Elemental Adept (Cold) because I have a feeling we might end up fighting demons soon..

>>51946752
I'd say that most of them function similarly enough that I could call them archetypes. What do you mean, exactly?

>>51946752
Such as?

>>51946840
>>51946854
I can't say I've ever really seen Warlock Pacts or Patrons described as Archetypes. I mean, which one would you say is more archetypal in design? Or are they both?

Strictly speaking, RAW (not that it matters), only martials have archetypes, casters have Schools, Arcane Traditions, Pacts, Patrons, Domains, etc.

>>51943861

Quiver of Ehlonna is a nice one. Basically a quiver version of a bag of holding that can hold bows, arrows, javelins, swords, ect. and never weight more than two pounds.

Oathbow is also an option if you're looking for a bow. I think a big one you can find is a Manual of Quickness of Action. It increases your dexterity by 2, and can go past the 20 maximum. The downside of course being that EVERYONE in your party is likely to benefit and there might be an item struggle unless the items are directly being given to a specific person.

>>51945053
You could dump str too for 3 16's if you take a half feat towards dex, con, or wis. Or try 12 con or a different race.

>>51946885
The Warlock is weird because both are basically subclasses / archetypes.

But the point that they only martials have archetypes is semantics and a little bollocks, because only Rogues and Fighters have archetypes, if we go by that. Barbs have Primal Paths and Monks have Monastic Traditions / Ways.

They all function the same, though. We could call them subclasses, but archetype has just kind of stuck.

Tempest Cleric 2 / Divination Wizard X

Would it work? Will it be fun?

>>51946996
Yeah, true enough. I didn't mean it as a "ah but you're all wrong", I just figured if we're explaining it to someone who isn't bothering to read the PHB we might as well give the full overview, finicky details and all.

>>51946885
I always just call them sub-classes. Can't say I have seen archetype be said that often before now but I still grasped exactly what OP was talking about when he said it.

>>51945355
Nature is an Int skill though medicine is wis. Hmm.

>>51945705
Dex is just 'I want bonus action attacks and don't want to be variant human or use a feat because I want to use +2 to charisma and get those neat half-elf stat-ups, so while I'm at it I think I'll grab dex instead of strength for dex benefits, even though it might give me an AC less.'

>>51947016
I guess. I just kind of trusted that they would understand it nonetheless, because even if you read only two classes, you understand that the subclasses work similarly, and each class has them.

>>51947014
>Would it work?
Depends what you're wanting to do with it.

New to 5e, but familiar with 4e and pathfinder. When I read details of spellcasting ("plugging" a spell into a spell slot), I dont see any kind of distinction between arcane spells and divine spells. Am I understanding this right? That I could learn a 1st level cleric spell, but cast it into a 5th level spell slot gained from an arcane class?

>>51943075
Wagons let mounts carry 5x the amount. Let's say you only want to encumber your mounts (draft horses), so that's 50 lbs/pt Str * 18 str = 900lbs/horse, or 1800 for 2.
Subtract 400 for the wagon, and you have 1400 lb to work with.
That's 70,000 coins, so unless you're giving them the treasure entirely in silver and copper, they should be able to fit 90-100% of it in the wagon. I got treasure numbers from 5etools, CR 16-20. Never seemed to generate more than ~60k coins.

>>51947099
Correct.

>>51945370
Half Orc 'evil-curious', give them an in to try and turn you while you're turning them.
>but my cha!
who cares, it's capped at 20 anyway.

>>51947082
The only real reason for differentiating between the two is that archetypes are always taken at a later level, whereas subclasses can be from level 1. It's not really a cause for concern.

I need some help picking between the lightly armored feet and keen mind.

I'm a wizard, and keen mind would allow me to get out of taking notes irl which is kind of helpful, and I was thinking of trying to use it as a roleplaying thing by asking shop owners to show me scrolls before buying them, then recording them to my spellbook later by "remembering" what was written on it

On the other hand if I get lightly armored I can get studded leather armor and have a +2 to my AC and still be able to cast spells.

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>>51947108
so I can just take a single level in cleric and have an arsenal of healing available like a similar level cleric would have? No one thinks there's something off about that?

>traps

Who actually gives a shit. Maybe next week will be rules for hairstyles.

>>51947099
In short, you gain spell SLOTS by total caster level and can use them for whatever, but learn KNOWN spells on a class-by-class basis.
Exceptions apply (warlock slots, prestige classes...), but 60% of the time it works like this all the time.

>>51947125
You would only be able to prepare a level 1 cleric's spells. It's not that impressive for your wizard to cast cure wounds (5th). You won't have mass healing word or prayer of healing, or even spiritual weapon with that level.

>>51947125
You won't have either of
>higher level clerical spells
>cleric class features

You'll be the guy powering up cure spells while the real cleric will res people up. The fucking favored soul will heal more and better than you!

It's not OP at all, in fact it's the most balanced multiclassing mechanic for casters since 3e at least, if anything martials should get something similar for the extra attacks at least.

>>51947120
You can probably get more AC from mage armor and you can probably afford the spell slot for it if you're asking this question.

>>51947120
>keen mind would allow me to get out of taking notes irl which is kind of helpful

Only if you trust your DM to remember what you can't, which won't necessarily always be true.

>>51947201
>martials should get something similar
They do. It's called not being a moron and making sure your multiclassed features synergize on your attack action.

>>51947188
>>51947201
Seems more balanced when you spell it out like that. That said, I think I've enjoyed how spellcasting works in this edition more than any other. Please excuse my nubile ignorance, and thanks anons.

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>people already gave 13k to this
Why is homebrew so shit?

Half-Goblins aren't a thing, right?

is there any PHB or other official spell for a fist fighter ? ironhands or hammerhands or whatever ? i cant find anything in the PHB, only monk class skills

>>51947281
13k what?


How can we end homebrew once and for all?

>>51947332
No.

>>51947281
the bonus damage and wis ST seems too mcuh, but the first section seems fine..

>>51942971
Read the book you fucking jew

>>51947355
13k dolla, $.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/782735675/gods-and-goddesses-a-5th-edition-supplement

The worst part is that you get fighting styles at level 2 and oaths at level 3, so an oath-specific one makes no sense. The whole preview document has terrible grammar.

>>51942916
>They're fucking cantrips.
>They're competing with shit that does like 4.5 damage on a good day.
>They're not supposed to be perfect.
>And I don't know what Eldritch Blast is, because I am a fucking scrub
Good to know buddy.

>>51947388
Not him but is it possible for a level 1 wizard to get Eldritch Blast?

>>51947376
>Gods and Godesses
>Paladin options

Jesus fuck

This is why you don't ask an artist to do things that AREN'T art. It's like asking the health and saftey inspector to cover your shift in the mines.


Fortunately this doesn't want to make me kill myself as they actually put a slightly good pitch that would convince anyone who's a massive moron to provide money by claiming experience with 5e's design. If it were just 'Oh, I'm some random fuck making homebrew' then they wouldn't get any money.

>>51947410
There's a feat, but you won't get the invocations.

>>51947433
>>51947376
Actually, seeing as how they SOMEHOW can't make this without the 14,000 (Being too poor to print or something)
Does this mean if they don't reach 14,000 by friday everybody is saved and gets their money back?

>>51947125
Spell scaling tend to be shit
The 1st level Spell Cure Wounds heals 1d8+WIS
Upcast it to 9th level and it heals 9d8+WIS, which is about 45
6th level spell Heal heals 70
Upcast it to 9th and it heals 100
9th level spell Mass Heal heals up to 700 divided as you choose between anyone in a 60ft radius.
So you gotta pump levels into the class simply for the better spells.

>>51947388
Booming blade / green flame blade is very much like eldritch blast.

It's always an upgrade over a no-extra-attack-or-funny-ability attack.
By its standard, it doesn't deal competitive damage.
If you get features (such as eldritch blast getting invocations) its damage becomes competitive, i.e. war magic, quickened spell, sneak attack, etc.

>>51947703
>>51947703
>>51947703

New thread

>>51947703
>>51947703
>>51947703

>>51942882
Some noble lord got so fucking butthurt about his sword skills being meaningless in the face of getting rekt by naginatas that he started one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history to make it into a 'feminine' weapon.

>>51945053
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>>51947371
What?
>Defensive fighting style gives you +1 AC
That's it
>Dueling fighting style gives you +2 damage if you are using a d8 or less weapon
That's it
So by level 4 this is objectively better than defensive or duelist, by 17 it is doing three times more damage than duelist while still nearly invalidating the fact that you can't use shields.

None of the other fighting styles scale, why should katanas? It is literally just +2 to hit or +2 damage or some rerolls or something, not +6 damage, +1 AC, and +3 to wisdom saving rolls by level 18.

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>>51944082
pic reminded me of this

>>51942944
This. Cheesy ass feat for cheesy ass players.

>>51945268
Not the initial anon, but here:

Plump helm: While wearing this helm, you are immune to intoxication from alchohol, but you suffer a level of exhaustion for each day you go without a drink of booze. You also appear slightly overweight.

>>51945460
I'm glad you think of me while doing cocaine.

>>51945860
>>51945878

>Gandalf is an angel

No shit, hence why I said Gandalf is an angel, and in the reply chain pointed out that the wizard (in a D&D sense) is Galadriel, and although a wizard's forte is not 1v1 fighting, Galadriel still does way more impressive stuff than Gandalf. I would always pick Galadriel for my team, unless I knew it was primarily going to be about 1v1 fights.

And its not *guaranteed* she couldn't take out a balrog one way or another, but yeah, 1v1 in ME seems to be about combat strength and courage every time, not magic.

>>51950238
You have yet to mention a single thing Galadriel actually did

>>51946802
Wis to be sure. You can always use something different against demons.

>>51947027
>>51945705

I don't know what a dex paladin is gonna do. Most fancy swords, especially holy ones, are gonna be long or great swords. They can survive, but I'm not sure what a dex paladin is to do in actual combat.

>>51947125
>>51947255

Multiclassing in 5e is VERY OP and it is an optional rule.

People bitch bitterly about bladesingers every single day despite the fact that they are totally obsoleted by a single level in life cleric.

>>51947388
None of those are competing for EB, retard.