/srg/ - Shadowrun General

First for what are some interesting ideas for a Street Sam that aren't just your generic shit?

My chummer's crashing every time I open the add qualities tab. It never happened before I went to my game like 7 hours ago, it just started. I've deleted the whole thing and used a new nightly build but it still refuses to work. Also just added an exclusion to my antivirus. Any idea what's going on /srg/?

Opti. Yes or butt?

>>51738098
Interesting how, exactly? Builds, ware-combos, backstory...?

>>51738103
Yekka already on it >>51737780 >>51737830

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>>51738098
Hopelessly naive corpkid who wants to be just like the "streetsam" who stars on his favorite tridshow.

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Yekka, help plox.
Tried your new version pic rel happens.
Actually, it happens with every version now.


Full problem log:
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>>51738098
AI Sam in a S-K Direktionssekretär

>>51738118
Interesting in the way that they aren't boring. Backstory, ability combinations, some sort of build that takes a seldom-used mechanic or thing and makes it worthwhile.

>>51738068
>Most important rule
Never make a deal with a dragon.

So how does nephritic screen work in relation to drug durations.

I know it reduces the duration by its rating in increments relative to the drug. So 12-body hours would reduce it by a further 6 hours. But how does it work with 10 x 1d6 minutes? Does it reduce the duration by 6 minutes or does it reduce it by 60 minutes? I'm confused and it came up.

>>51738234
And my personal rule, Never go in against a dwarf when death is on the line.

>>51738283
What about land wars in asia?

>>51738278
6 Minutes

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So a few threads ago we all agreed that I should give the technomancer in my team one more warning not to ever infringe upon my player agency again by putting a sprite into my streetsam and using it as a threat, and then kill the character if they do it again anyways. Game night is tonight, so my question is this: if they do it again, how long should I wait before killing them?

>>51738278
Unit is minutes, so 6 minutes.

>>51738314
You might want to wait until the sprite is gone before going full Commissar on his sorry ass.

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>>51738098
A Street doc putting his medical skills and expertise into 'preventative' practice. The sort of dude getting high off their own designer combat drugs and wading into combat with scalpel blades for claws under thick choking clouds of toxins (Hopefully less lethal) that they mixed together. All that anatomical knowledge goes a long way when you know the right way to knick tendons and cut into ware just the right way to render it useless.

>>51738314
Sprite should be gone, and more importantly, prepare some shit that doesn't give him time to react or act against it.

Keep in mind, the Techno might be some kind of fuckface ordering your arm to shoot you in the head after you say this.
So, make it clear to communicate to your GM at the start of the session that the wireless of your limbs an guns is turned offline until you explicitely say you turn it on. Also take a knife with you, so you have an unhackable weapon.

When/if you have to kill him, use something he can't hack.
I'll again propose you use the Ultimax 70. Should be enough to kill him an the basic gun has NO WIRELESS CAPABILITIES so he can't hack it.

>>51738484
Eh, I'll stick with my machete, I've got better DV and AP with it (did I mention the bastard is wearing Executive Suit? I've got 12 bloody armor to work through!). Also, if I can catch him trying to put a sprite in before he actually does it, I think I'll just nail him with my AK-97.

>>51738579
You could always use military-grade explosives. Can't hack a block of explosive plastic.

Or use grenades. I wanna see the chucklefuck try hacking phosphorus grenades flying at him.

>>51738601
Its all fun until he does hack the WP nades flying at him and throws them back.

>>51738601
Sadly, I have no explosives and the only grenades I have on hand are 4 flashbangs and 1 tear gas grenade. Although, the technomancer has a shitty body score, no gas mask or respirator and no means of visual compensation, so watching him choke on tear gas right before I end him might be fun.

>>51738601
To risky, except if you disable the wireless before.

>>51738579
Ah, what a fucker.
Which one of you two has higher Edge?
If you have more than him, use one to go first. Even if he does the same he is one done AND will still have to roll which you should probably win.

Safest route (but expensive) would be Spend 1 Edge to seize the initiative, then burn one point of Edge to get the breaktrough option (4 guaranteed net successes) on an APDS Attack with your AK-97. This should put enough of a dent into him that you can be safe that you should be able to put him down.

Depending on how his standing among your teammates is, you might also want to be carefull with them being around.

Please keep us updated.

>>51738713
Oh, tear gas sounds like an excellent idea. Chuck it into his home at night and ambush him when he comes out.

>>51738715
>then burn one point of Edge to get the breaktrough option (4 guaranteed net successes) on an APDS Attack with your AK-97.
Hardly necessary. I've got enough recoil compensation to fire full-auto all willy-nilly and I somehow doubt he has more than 9 dice to dodge.

>>51738765
Anon theres no kill like overkill

>>51738866
Yeah, but I've only got 2 edge, I'm not burning one just to put down a snot-nosed technomancer.

>>51738068
my personal rule is that were all family on the run. There will be no arguing, being bitter or going after each other. Blow your heads after the run or papa street sam will lay you down faster than firewatch soldier on a leave would lay down an elven whore with 9 charisma.

>>51738068
Guys.

An Adept with a cyber-deck. Yet or nay?

>>51738983
Yay. Definitely doable.

I just realized I can play a real life cyberdemon if I make an oni street sam.
I think I might have to do this.
Though the rocket launcher arm is going to be a bitch to convince a GM to let me install.

Why is the limit of just one attack per round so retarded in Shadowrun?
>focus on bursting and autoing
>can shoot 10 guys at the same time but not one guy twice
Fucking stupid.

How terrible is it for a mage to burn 1 essence on bioware in 5th edition? Will it make a big impact on casting ability?

I want to get a sleep regulator for fluff reasons, haven't decided what to spend the rest of the essence point on. But I don't want to cripple my casting. Tradition is Shinto if that has any impact on what implants are good.

>>51739137
>How terrible is it for a mage to burn 1 essence on bioware
>for fluff reasons
Don't do it.

>>51739135
Balancing reasons, you crybaby.
Change this and going first (instead of simply looking out for a nice amount of ini passes) becomes the most highly thought thing of all.
Enter the age of M-b-W juicers everywhere.

>>51739137
get yourself a Alphaware Arm of God. 0.1 ESS from the sleep regulator, 0.8 ESS from the arm

And no, 1 point lost means 1 die less on sorcery, and 1 lower threshold for Stun/Physical damage

>>51739186
It already is the most important thing. Besides, you still have to split the dice pool to do some damage and that isn't always the smartest choice.

Hey /srg/, techno here. Tell me, aside from machine sprite spamming, things you wish your matrix specialist would remember to do.

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>>51738068
Currently playing a manipulation focused mage in 5e. After this run I should have enough spare karma for maybe 3 or 4 spells. What are some good manipulation ones to increase my helpfulness in combat? Also any other good manipulation spells I should get.
I want them to be Manip because I have 18 dice to them, and 12 to other types of spell.

Current list of manipulation spells is:
>Armor
>Control Actions
>Glue Strip
>Ice Sheet
>Influence
>Levitate
>Physical Barrier
>Rewind

Planning on grabbing Control Thoughts and Control Emotions for some serious psy-ops shit (gonna try turn people into sleeper agents), and Shapechange because it seems super versatile.

>>51739459
>take shapechange
>shapechange into chimpanzee
>all physical stats become 4/7
>distribute hits between stats as you see fit
>learn to use a gun in chimp form
>gorilla warfare

>>51739541
>gorilla warfare
See, that would've been suggested that he turn into a gorilla.

>>51739643
Been funnier if, god damn.

>>51739643
I wish I could've, but if there are stats for a gorilla, I don't know them. I only know about the chimp thanks to Chummer. No idea what book it's in.

>>51739691
IIRC, Gorillas are extinct outside of clones. I have a dream of playing an Awakened Sapient Gorilla Combat Sorcerer.

I hate GM special snowflake characters that can't be harmed for reasons. I sometimes want to punch our GM for being too theatrical and bending the rules so he can put on a pre-planned scene (you got to talk to these other runners to reveal crucial info so the players shouldn't be allowed to actually kill them), because this takes away from the players' autonomy and makes you feel like a puppet in a play. But overall he's a good GM otherwise.

>>51739691
The stats for chimps are in Howling Shadows, and for gorillas, probably the same statline as chimps but with higher Body and Strength.

In the Praxis ending fiction of Artifacts UNbound, Aina brings in a random immortal human with her right before she does that huge blood magic fate bond thing. Any ideas on who? I'm personally guessing it was the last Governor of the Theran Empire, or a member of the Trismagestus without his ears, but I've got no real evidence.

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>>51739726
>I have a dream of playing an Awakened Sapient Gorilla Combat Sorcerer.

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Can two-player games work? Like a buddy buddy kinda thing?

>>51739726
I'm like 90% sure I've seen rules for an Awakened Gorilla somewhere. Maybe use an Agropelter.

>>51739848
>two physads.jpg

>>51739874
And here I thought bravo was some kinda face

>>51739892
He flirts constantly, but have you ever seen it WORK?

>>51739842
Well, I know what I'm running for my next character. Shapechange or Critter Form into a chimp, quicken the spell with a decent amount of karma (to protect from dispelling), hide the quickening with extended masking (I think), then just go to town. Learn Levitate too so you can do saiyan flight.

>>51739900
It worked every time he didn't want it to. Like clockwork.

>>51739892
Bravo would be the worst face. He has a handsome face, a muscular body and yet he went the entire series without getting any action.

>>51739912
So what you're saying is he has the social equivalent of Gremlins.

>>51739912
>Like clockwork.
Au contraire, flirting NEVER works for Clockwork

>>51739855
Nah, an Agropelter is weaker than a chimp. A Black Annis would be a more accurate statline.

>>51740075
I was just going to use the troll statblock minus dermal armor. And horns.

>>51740122
The bear statblock would work as well, minus sense of smell and claws.

Okay, so how could an adept turn himself into a gorilla so that he can go literally apeshit on his opponents?

I remember someone posted a set of condensed 5e rules that went beyond the quick start rules but wasn't as convoluted as the 5e core rulebook, anyone got that PDF?

I don't want to go through stories and fluff because I already know that shit by heart, but I need a quick and clean way to check out all the rules needed to GM properly.

Currently working on a neat but almost definitely underpowered character idea I had. Basically an aspected magician Alchemist/Rigger that acts as the team's support unit. The idea is to have her use her preperations to heal, armor, and generally support the team while her drones are used to scout and deliver alchemical payloads to ambush and trap enemies. I'm almost certain this will be a terrible build, but fuck it I'm mainly just making this for fun.

Currently I'm trying to find interesting ways to combine the mobility of drones with the versatility of magic. Like having a microdrone deliver a fireball preparation into an enclosed area to assassinate a target, or using levitate to vault a target up into the air then having a drone snatch him and propel him to a retrieval zone.

Any ideas on what kind of weird combinations I could pull with this setup?

>>51739933
yyyes.

>>51738391
...holy shit, that sounds horrifying. I need to build this.

>>51739920
Not entirely true, that deer and the werewolf were all over him. Gives animal magnetism a whole new meaning.

I imagine SR Johnny would be hitting on all kinds of women, but the only ones who would respond would be Changelings, awakened paracritters, and Sasquatches.

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>>51740234
Do you mean the superbook? I thought it just listed guns/abilities and shit, but here it is just in case.

>>51738098
They are actually a samurai

>>51738391
Speaking of which, what books contain additional drugs? There are some in the core but surely additional rules have been released right?

>>51740371
Check Chrome Flesh.

>>51740248
This sounds like one of those builds that's going to be underpowered on a pure number basis, but potentially insane if you roleplay it correctly.

Try loading up microdrones with AoE illusion spells like Chaotic World, sneaking them into the building you're infiltrating, and syncing them to activate the illusion simultaneously to either aid in infiltration or exfiltration as needed. Or go full space station 13 and come up with interesting mixes of conventional explosives and whichever elemental attack spell you can find - i'm sure you can think of a way to deliver, say, electrified toxic gas.

>>51740220
Way of the Beast Adept who follows the Bear mentor spirit can perform a ritual to transform into a bear, I think it's locked behind an initiation.

>>51740663
Would a Gorilla Mentor Spirit be more or less just like the Bear Mentor Spirit?

>>51740425
Been flipping through different books to find really situational spells that might have new uses when combined with drones. Recorded room is pretty great. Slip a drone into a building, activate the preparation, get a perfect readout of the entire room that isn't limited by LoS.

Pulse also has neat applications. Slip a drone into a research lab or computer mainframe, then crash all of their expensive shit. If you don't have a hacker and you aren't on a stealth run you could use this to completely destroy their surveillance system by slipping it into the security office.

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>>51738112
Yes, but also so fucking slow with updates.

>>51738098
Here's one I just made on a lark. Cyberape.

>>51740425
Potassium Drone, meet Water Drone.

Tell me what porn your runner browses, /tg/
I know you've pondered it

>>51740875
https://twitter.com/ShadowrunPorn

>>51740875
Lolicon, incest, actual hard candy, etc

Being a decker comes with some unsavoury although delicious as fuck fetishes.

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>>51740861
>>51738098
Fuck forgot sheet. I'm a dumb

>>51740940
Never let your kids access hot sim at age 8, senpai
It really fucks them up

>>51740992
I'm fairly certain that hotsimming is illegal for everyone, so letting kids hotsim would be extra illegal. And you'd have to be messed up as fuck yourself to let your children have unfiltered access to the cesspit that's future internet.

Well, except if they're an ork I guess. 8 yo ork is probably all set to fuck.

>>51739135
I also dislike this rule and have allowed my players to attack the same character multiple times provided they target him multiple times paying the normal dice penalty cost for however many times they plan to attack. Of course, the baddies all have the ability to do this also.

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>>51740248
Is it possible to jurry-rig up a magical getaway vehicle? Like, cast levitate on a skateboard to make it hover, then attach thrusters and an engine to its underside to make a hoverboard. I can see a magic rigger making impossible vehicles with this idea.

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Does anybody else find themselves in a rut when making characters? As I try to follow mechanical formulas for making viable characters they seem to lose personality and flavor, or they all just look identical.

>>51741272
I've made nothing but matrix specialists for the entire time I've played SR and can't say that my characters feel identical. They might play that way but you give them personalities that make them feel more unique.

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>>51741272
I follow two steps. First I flip through the books to find something I like that I want to build a character around. For >>51740975, it was Grapple Hands (I may or may not have also been watching Spider-Man 2 at the time). I make sure to get at least 12 dice in whatever gimmick I've picked.

Then I grab one of the big PACKs. Thank goodness Chummer has included some custom PACKs like the Runnerhub one so it's not always the same, but each one has the basic gear to survive, then I feel free to get whatever I want without forgetting anything important.

>>51739246
>it is already the most important thing
Not really
You are fine with a not-so-high ini as long as you have enough passes.
With the changed rules, its all about hardmaxing.

>>51741272
Yes, very badly.

There's really only so many ways you can do priority or distribute skills, and the gear customization isn't as in-depth as it was in SR4, plus there's just not as many interesting or actually viable qualities.

>>51740902
>A well made bondage porno set in space staring a glasses wearing elf wageslave and a bored human decker.

I'd watch it.

I'm running a game in LA, and I want to use the Santa Ana winds as a complication in a mission. What magical effects might the wind spread around?

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Can you pay for docwagon monthly instead of having a years contract? I haven't seen it in the CRB but its on chummer

>>51741299
It's a good feeling when your character can both look AND play differently though.

Personally I don't like the fact that I can make an identical character sheet 6 times and it's gonna be 6 almost completely different characters. To me that's just weird.

>entire team consists of streetsams
>they're all mechanically identical, except for 1 difference
>each of them has a different Code of Honor
How stupid/fun an idea is this?

>>51741648
Sounds like a good way for table fights to break out.

>>51741648
It's pretty retarded.

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>>51741648
If you don't want to actually play, but want to have in-character metaphysical and moral arguments for 3 hours, it's a great time.

I'd play it for a one-off.

>>51741884
Great idea for a one-off. Seven Ronin and shit.

>>51741639
If you ascribe a character to each build/class/archetype, then you'll run our of characters about 12 games in.

>>51741946
Not in a system where mechanics are fluid and flexible.

>>51741928
Set it in the VA-11 HALL-A bar.

Mechanic: Everyone has 5 tokens to start. They give a token to another player when they concede a point in an argument. They can also spend a token during play to tell a flashback story about how the world follows their worldview (this story can and probably should include other player's characters).

Player with the most tokens at the end wins.

>>51739112
You're already making a miniature version. Get a Gyrojet pistol.

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>>51741959
>mechanics
>fluid and flexible
>in Shadowrun
>in /srg/

Shadowrun may not lock you into "Classes" but there are more trap options/builds than actual ones. This is only made worse by the 8/10/12 system that /srg/ always goes off about. Don't even get me started on the literal necessity for initiative boosters for any character expected to swing a sword or fire a weapon or the Void-Black Trenchcoast mindset of everybody who plays this godforsaken game.

I'm a little salty.

>>51742095
8/10/12?

>>51742180
Dicepools. After chargen, you're expected to have 12 dice in your main skills, 10 in your secondary, and 8 in your tertiary. For example, a streetsam might have 12 in automatics and blades, 10 in pilot (ground vehicle), and 8 in sneaking and ettiquette (because you always need those). After specializations, of course.

Which race and archetype make the best waifus?

>>51742180
12 dice in your primary skills, 10 dice in your secondary skills, 8 dice for your tertiary skills. It's not an unreasonable rule, what with some people insisting you need 20+ dice for your primary skill at chargen.

>>51742224
>ettiquette (because you always need those).
Wut?

>>51742238
>>51742224
>>51742180
Oh, fucking hurr.

What's wrong with that, though? Like, that's the minimum amount for what'd be reasonable competence in them.

How would you rule on a shaman who follows a spirit that may of may not actually exist because it's a fictional diety from d&d?

>>51742257
The spirit is one that does exist, just under the guise of the D&D deity.

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>>51742180
>>51742224
And it's not hard at all to get those. Even if you don't do the obvious (get your attribute to 6 and skill to 6) you can easily get gear bonuses to put you up.

>>51742235
Tuskers 4ever. You get older and they stay the same age. Until they die suddenly and you fuck their now-legal daughter.

>>51742238
Etiquette is basically sneaking for social situations. You'll need it unless you just sit in the van and wait for plan B to happen.

>>51742248
>>51742272
It's not hard, and there's really nothing wrong with it. It's like how you want your main ability in DnD to be 16+. And given all the options for boosting your dicepools, it's possible and even advisable to go above and beyond that (my pistol adept has 18 dice in shooting straight out of chargen. Shit's nuts, I can call a shot every round and never miss.)

>>51742224
I mean considering you CAN rock a 20 if you really try hard that's still conservative.

>>51742306
>You'll need it unless you just sit in the van and wait for plan B to happen.
Well, yeah, I'm a streetsam. I kill things, intimidate people, drive cars, move heavy objects and infiltrate places by climbing into secondary story windows and sneaking around. I don't do social infiltration unless it's with gangers and blue collar workers.

>>51740875

Haven't put any thought into porn per se, but his garage/bedroom is filled with pinup posters of scantily-clad females of various metatypes reclining on the hoods of automobiles.

'Kenyan nurses with librarians' degrees' is also a running joke for all the guys in our run team, but my guy privately has a thing for elf chicks in nice suits, a secret he will take to the grave. Specifically, the grave of anyone who finds out about it.

>>51742461
>'Kenyan nurses with librarians' degrees' is also a running joke for all the guys in our run team
Explain further please, it sounds like there's a really good story behind this one.

>>51742461
2d or 3d, though?

Very classic. I like it. Gotta have a nice one on his toobox, too.

>>51742238
>>51742248
My problem is that there are so many requisites to making a viable character that the character creation system is moot. There isn't much wiggle room to make a character who is competent in everything /srg/ wants them to be. And if I even try they are just this soulless cookie-cutter humanoid gunmount who is functionally retarded save for pulling a trigger.

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>>51742436
>He doesn't have Etiquette (dockworker)

Have fun bumbling around in everyone's way, standing in pathways and getting too close to machinery until the boss hauls you out.

>>51742557
>There isn't much wiggle room to make a character who is competent in everything /srg/ wants them to be.
So stop listening to /srg/ if it gives you so much grief.

>>51742557
Well it depends on
>what your archetype is
>what CharGen type you use
and
>how much you have to branch

KarmaGen favors Generalists, not exceedingly good at any thing, but covering most bases, while Priority/ST10 favor getting your specialty as high as possible, while being only good in your chosen field
As with most things the 12/8/6 rule is a minimum. As long as you have that covered you are free to branch out into whatever else you like

And of course it depends on how many other players there are. If you have to be Mage+Face+Social Infiltrator and your buddy has to be Sammy+Phys. Infiltrator+Getaway driver then you will be spread far more than if you have 5 other runners in your team

>>51741648
Not as good as the all-troll run team.

>Troll bursts into the room with a bag in one hand, gun in the other, his horns poking out through a balaclava.
>"PUT THE MONEY IN THE BAG, OMAE."
>"Sir, this is a yoga class."
>Second troll bursts in, human-sized balaclava awkwardly stretched over head.
>"WHICH ONE OF YOU IS DR. LARSON? SHIAWASE HAS AN EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY THEY'D LIKE YOU TO HEAR ABOUT."
>"DAMMIT, MARK, WE'RE NOT DOING THE EXTRACTION NOW! THIS ISN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE ARES MEGAPLEX."
>"ISN'T THIS PLACE OWNED BY ARES?"
>Third troll bursts in with a towel wrapped around his head and cucumbers on his eyes, holding a bag with some guns in it.
>"PUT DR. LARSON'S MONEY IN THE BAG, OR I START TAKING GUNS OUT!"
>"BOSS CALLED OFF THE EXTRACTION, KEVIN."
>"NO I DIDN'T, WE'RE JUST NOT DOING IT NOW!"
>Drone with balaclava over its optics flies into the room, brandishing guns, a loud voice coming through it's speakers.
>"GIMME A BAG AND NOBODY GETS HURT!"
>"EXTRACTION'S CALLED OFF, KIM."
>"NO IT ISN'T! WE'RE JUST NOT-"
>Lights in the room go off, doors to the bathrooms start locking and unlocking. Radio crackles.
>"I'N IN!"
>Heavy book crashes through window, Troll mage follows shortly thereafter, wearing a football helmet.
>"ASTRAL SECURITY NULLIFIED, BOSS, YOU CAN GRAB LARSON'S BAG!"
>"BOSS CALLED OFF THE EXTRACTION, TOSHI."
>"NO I DIDN'T!"
>"THEN WHO DID?"
>Radio crackles again.
>"G.O.D.'S ON MY TAIL GUYS, GIVE DR. LARSON THE MONEY AND PULL OUT FAST!"
>"AUGGGGH."

>>51742659
>implying I don't already know how to be a dockworker from my brief stint in the David Cartel

I don't know if this is a viable character, but i have this concept in mind
A street sam so bland and nondescript that he can just walk into places without people giving him a second look
Until he whips out his collapsible greatsword and goes guts on their asses anyway
The key is to make it so any ware could be easily hidden, or at least not apparent at first glance
Enough that he could pass as a boring wageslave if you didn't examine him too closely

>>51742746
>The key is to make it so any ware could be easily hidden, or at least not apparent at first glance
You want to be a bio-sam, then.

>>51742746
Adept

>>51742180
>>51742224
>>51742238
What would be the Primary/Secondary/Tertiary skills for a decker?

>>51742920
Giving blowjobs to the team's sam.

>>51742764
Sounds about right
I'm thinking something like "Bob" for his handle

>>51742920
Memes/Shitposting/Spamming

>>51742930
What attribute and skills do I up for that? Any chrome or bioware that would help?

>>51742491
The joke is funnier than the backstory, honestly. We were playing a module I found on /tg/ a while ago (Best Razorgirl, I think), and one of the characters had a secretary who appeared as a Zulu elf in AR because her boss was into that, and we just sort of built up a similarly implausible combination of fetishes.

>>51742557
2d. Max is a big fan of pop culture from the end of the Fifth World, and always goes for the retro look if he can. His other hobbies include bowling and blasting horrendously cheesy pop music from ninety years ago while he's driving the getaway van.

Do Bone Lacing stack with Bio-Claws? Both use unarmed, so my guess would be that they do, but there has been weirder things.

>>51743025
Ack, meant to link to >>51742532 with the second one.

>>51742990
Just be yourself man.

>>51740975
>Sneaky hindu monkey immigrant has to make himself useful or EVO might fuck with him
Interesting. Does he like Evo for rescuing him and restoring his body? If you wanted to play him up as a good little corp-boy you could have him spout Evo marketing phrases to convince your team to buy from them. It'd be like tourrettes, but monetized

>>51743025
>Zulu elf in AR
that would be LoveLove anons's

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>>51738098
Just try to put your spin on it and don't think too much about what others think, most concepts have already been tested.

My favourite concept for an non.magical combat character was a Go Ganger/ contract killer based on the red riding hood fairytale

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>>51743058
>Does he like Evo for rescuing him and restoring his body?

I think he buys hard into EVOlution and the idea of corporate responsibility and ethics, building a global community of good. The standard nationalism-but-for-corps idea.

Hey can someone explain to me why Chummer is unable to calculate correctly Agility of Cyberlimbs?

Like I'm putting in Customized Agility 6 and Enhanced Agility 3 with should put me at 9 but it still registers as 6.

>>51742731
This is fucking hilarious, going to steal that team for my group as encounter.

Why do i get the feelng that somewhere in the JIS, there's a harem anime about runners?

>>51743243
because the Value shown there is for using your whole body, which is the average of all limbs

>>51742731
>football helmet
>football
>helmet
Que?

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>>51743337

>>51743353
But they don't wear helmets in football anywhere else either.

>>51742920
Primary is whatever you use to do the actual hacking itself. Secondary / Tertiary is general skills (running, automatics, sneaking, etiquette, perception, YMMV by GM) and other skills you want for generally fluffy reasons (First Aid? Cybertechnology, Pilot skills) split up by importance.

What would you do if your team's she-troll seemed to be into you?

>>51740902
>A musical bondage porno set in the Renraku Arcology staring an enby sasquatch prostitute and a well endowed sasquatch sacrifice.

Damn

>>51742990
Up your Body so you can take his 15 inch troll cock without passing out.

>>51743408
depends on the she-troll
just like with any other metatype
humanis scum

>>51742257
I've seen a mys-adept following Conan. Just be a bit creative

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>>51743224
>Just try to put your spin on it and don't think too much about what others think, most concepts have already been tested.

This may seem simple and obvious, but I really needed to hear this.

>>51743408
Ask her to peg me with her horns.

>>51743408
Dick her so hard she's gonna wake up thinking you've fractured every dermal deposit in her body.

>>51743473
>implying
I just figured most people weren't into troll girls
I am not most people

Does all the 'ware in a cyberlimb have to be of the same grade?

>>51743408
Make it abundantly clear that I'm not into her.

>>51743569
yeah

Would you a dwarf?

>>51742920
Primary
>Cybercombat to not die in the matrix
>Hacking to not have to use cybercombat
>Electronic Warfare to have matrix Utility
>Computer is also useful but you can usually have an Agent do it for you

Secondary
>CHA skills if you want to be all mental and hide in combat
>some Rigging skills if you want to focus on affecting the real world from the van
>some combat skills if you want to leave the van
>Hardware to fix your deck if it gets busted

>Tertiary
>First Aid, Demolition, knowledge skills

>>51743578
What if she's really horny?

>>51743736
Then the gun comes up.

>>51743747
She's flattered by your raging erection but says she wants to take things slowly.

>>51743769
Good. Let's take it slow enough for her to be six feet under before we make it to first base.

About a month ago I was tossing around ideas for Omega Dawn to enter the scene in my campaign, and I'm finally gearing up to do that session. Do you think the following will sufficiently put the fear of God into the party?

> Succesful run (hopefully)
> If party makes checks, they can realize that comms are jammed and there is way less traffic than there should be, as if it's all been redirected somewhere
> Car suddenly ran off the road by an APC, smashing into a building.
> APC speeds off to avoid getting ID'd
> Two strike teams of 5 emerge from buildings and start pouring the remains of the car with APDS-loaded automatic weapons.
> Teams consist of 3 humans, an orc with some bonus 'ware, and a mage specializing in counterspelling
> Everyone is armed with HK XM30's, complete with underslung grenade launchers (only smoke)
> Party must survive the 6 turns/rounds/whatever the thing containing all the initiative passes are before the cops show or escape somehow

I've already warned them that at least one character is probably going to die tonight, they're cool with it.

>>51743782
That's 30 years of dating and eyelash-fluttering.

>>51739459
Fling is a great substitute for Heavy Weapons or Throwing

>>51743809
No, that's 30 years of LONG-DISTANCE dating without the eyelash-fluttering.

>>51738103
5.190.91 should have fixed that issue.
>>51738129
Dafuq isn't it opening the crash handler for? Um. Without seeing the exception itself I have no idea what could be happening.

>>51743240
Corporate-Patriotism is underated

>>51743808
What's the team made up of? How many characters?

What's the most intricate episode of Blood in the Boardroom, /srg/? Thinking of a rogue internal faction forcing a privately owned corp to make an IPO and am looking for inspiration for internal corp conflicts.

>>51743864

A weeaboo human gun adept, an elf Chaos wizard without much in the way of combat spells, a infiltrator/backup samurai with a fetish for Spanish swordplay, a human face who happens to be a spoiled rich brat who doesn't know what he's doing around guns and a technomancer rigger, although he's going to be in a different car at the time and just let his machine sprite drive the getaway vehicle. Overall they've done pretty well in combat so far, normally due to the gun adept loading APDS and abusing bulls-eye or whatever it's called from run and gun.

>>51738068
Guy who in the previous thread wanted advice on a burnout adept with full set of cyberlimbs here.

So I pretty much spent the entire day toying around in Chummer and I came to a conclusion that it's absolutely grade A viable, using any generation method.

Although one thing I'm not sure about and this may simply be a preference thing, buying deltaware-and-higher grade of 'were is always better than buying the pseudo-alphawere gear anyway so one has to question the very point of the Burnout's Way.

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>>51743808
>> Car suddenly ran off the road by an APC, smashing into a building.


>suddenly
>APC

yeah nah, thats retarded GM Fiat/10
Throw dice for this like everybody does, to see whether they notice the APC and how they react when the crash is about to happen, giving them a fair chance to avoid it.

> Two strike teams of 5 emerge from buildings and start pouring the remains of the car with APDS-loaded automatic weapons.

>10 people with APDS loaded automatics

If your team doesn't consist of a full bunch of almost-cyberzombies with 30+ soak each, none of them will survive this without some major handwaving bullshit.

Whole idea sounds like a very stupid cause for a lolrandom TPK

>>51743829
Nope, it isn't. Its crashing right at the startup, after doubleclicking on the symbol

>>51743698
I'd probably do any metatype, as long as they are not too disgusting (basic hygiene, which may be a bit more for trolls) and not too different in opinion

>>51744022
Because in Chargen you can only buy up to alpha, making ware less expensive in nuyen and essence.

>>51744022
>deltaware-and-higher grade of 'were is always better
chummer, deltaware is so expensive and rare that even being ABLE to get it is worth an entire death run

>>51744022
Well, some higher grade ware can be very expensive, so it can be a necessary route if you want a fuckton of alphaware and Ressources A is not enough to pay for this.

>>51744070
>>51744091
>>51744099
Yeeeah, there's also the fact that Essence is counted in fractures, so getting higher grade 'were isn't always even worth it, since as an Adept you only care about full value and if you can't cheese it you might as well go for a cheaper option.

Though keep in mind this was me going out of my way to make a character with 4 cyberlimbs for no other reason than fluff.

You could absolutely make a super-viable character with just two pimped out cybar-arms, or even just one God-Hand and play as One Punch Man.

>>51744166
>counted in fractures, so getting higher grade 'were isn't always even worth it
well, technically it is if you want to get more stuff
higher grade means more stuff with a combined essence cost of =<1

But yeah, usually you take stuff like Pain editor or Smartlink or Muscle Toner 4

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>>51744166
Eh, if all you wanted is a char with four limbs, i could have simply posted the charsheet of my current PC (PDF related) :/
Thought the "with magic" was the special trick that you wanted to build upon.

>>51744205
Isn't it better to take Smarlink in glasses/contacts? Or if you really want to, stick it into cyber-eyes.

>>51744231
It waaaas, but Magic is flexible. And it doesn't require me to wade through the Syberwere section of various books and meticulously count all the nuyen and Essence.

But sure, go ahead, I wouldn't wanna your work go to waste, I'd love to see what you came up with in the Magic department.

It's very likely you found a much better way of doing things than I.

>>51744283
I'll try and see if reinstaling chummer tomorrow works out. I'm at home atm so i have a working version, but I prefer doing this while taking my time and i'ts almost midnight now.

>>51744252
sure it's possible, but it gives better advantages and cybereyes a) would make that cost twice (4000 for the eyes, 4000 for the smartlink) and b) won't have much space left for much anyway

>>51744283
Have you tried an alchemist connection ?

sure alchemy is not as strong as spellcasting, but spells that won't be resistet can still be usefull and prepared beforehand and you might want to keep some like a healing item on you at all times.

Physical Barrier can be super usefull as alchemy item, whipping out some solid surface in thin air, and if your talismonger of choice knows what he/she is doing, maybe even some ramps to jump off with a vehicle.

>>51744364
Thaaaaat cound pretty kewl, but I don't think I can actually let go of the Adept aspect of the character.

I mean I could do a Mystic Adept? But it's gotta be an Adept one way or another I fear.

>>51744364
Alchemical preparations degrade way to fast though.
Neat idea, rules work heavily against it.

So, I have this idea for a character, but I have no idea how to pull it off.

The idea is of a Rich Kid who gets cut off, and won't get any more money from mom and dad, until he earns enough money to be 'worth it'.

Plot Twist: Mom and Dad are runners, who want to make sure their kid learns the value of hard work the same way they did.

>>51744700
As a joke, have him retire after his first run and work at Stuffer Shack until he has enough money.

>>51744700
Slamm0 pls go and take your toasterloving waifu with you

>>51744745

That is slamm0 related? I don't really read much of the flavor text. It's interesting, but I don't really pay attention to who's saying what.

>>51744741

I was honestly thinking about giving him the highest "In Debt" quality I could, and have the terms be 'when you pay this debt off completely, you're good' or something like that. Something that I can't easily cheese.

Here's a mystery for you. Should drone arms increase condition monitor?

>>51744959
Why wouldn't they?

>>51744959
Nothin' in the books seems to suggest they shouldn't.

>>51744793
Everything about inDebtV is unplayable.

>>51744981
Oh, nevermind. I didn't read the entry properly and my gut reaction was 'why would they get extra condition monitor, surely that's supposed to represent replacing your flesh with chrome'.

Is the Food Fight on the 5th Quickstart Rules the one I should run? I was sure it was on a Stuffer Shack last time I checked, the one on the book is about something else entirely.

>>51744413
I always imagened a talismonger buisness more like a fast food joint and less like a tailor.

You want something quick when you need it or get every day a little bit and know what you get.

Its nothing tailored for you like a focus.

Imagen making a phoonecall to your talismonger, setting up an order and letting his drone bring it to your home.

Run ? order some health spells and some barriers.

Date ? How about increase Charisma or increase body if you swing that way ?

>>51745309
the original Stuffer Shack version is in another book
gonna search for it

>>51745403
and found it
it's in the Beginner Box, in the one labeled Quick Start Rules, not Quick start rules v2

>>51745446
Thank you omae

>>51738068
No blood magic, don't go toxic, and no vampires in the house.

>>51745058
Not him, but why?

>>51739459
Grab Napalm. Nobody fucks with Napalm.

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Post interesting helmets

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>>51745494

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>>51745494
Thinking about rolling an Unarmed Adept, but I've gotta ask. What's the balance between increasing your initiation rank/magic rating versus skills?

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>>51745494
>>51745575
If you're set on Unarmed (why?) than I would go heavy on the magic rating and use fetishes and what have you to boost your skills to decent levels

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>>51745579
>>51745579
one for the unarmed bro in the thread

>>51745482
Don't know the exact reasoning, but IIRC it's because the amount you have to pay weekly is big enough that you have to spend your entire run money just on the additional debt, coupled with the damage you take it's unfeasible

>>51745624
I'm gonna make a character that wears a "Make Shadowrunning Great Again" hat.

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>>51745494
>>51745673
>John Titor
>make Shadowrunning great again
>pines for the meme war II of 2016

>>51745673
desu that would be probably canon too, in LA they fly around with drones and hope to film shadowrunners in action. you know, a reality show.

>>51745579
>>51745624
>>51745676
>an airhead, a whiny lesbo and a monster supporting McCheeto
like pottery

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>>51745720
h...how about t...this one!

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What shape would you call this helmet?

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>>51745602
Alright, should also mention I'm playing an 8 Edge human so that'll help balance things out too.
>(why?)
Because capoeira is cool. But I'll still have a good amount of dice to shoot people anyways.

>>51745624
fist bump

>>51745745
clearly a slender troll woman with her stormcannon and horns.

Try harder next time

>>51745767
Full-Face helmet with rebreather?

>>51745767
geometric

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Does this count as a helmet? I'd say it's more of a face, but whatever.

>>51745777
checked
the 8 edge human says more than enough; Unarmed is a perfect choice for an edgelord imo and capoeira is spectacular enough that when you burn 6 points of edge to jump 46 feet off a rooftop and kick through a helicopter it'll sound half realistic. Also, fist bump for >>51745777
too - you mah nigga now

>>51745789
>>51745806
I'm going with geometric full-face helmet with rebreather

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i am dissapoint that this has not been posted yet

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I can't recall if ballistic masks have stats for adding horns

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For unarmed-bro, I dunno if you're looking for a char pic or not, but I found this in my SR folder

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>>51745935
I was gonna get a buddy of mine to draw 'im, but thanks. I'll use that someday. Have a helmet.

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>>51745961
thanks m8, i like the red dot and cadian feel of it
have a pic of the tanks that are backing that infantry up

>>51745861
>capoeira is spectacular enough that when you burn 6 points of edge to jump 46 feet off a rooftop and kick through a helicopter

Fucking what?

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>>51745987
if he's a magical unarmed adept edgelord i could easily envision this scenario happening
>next time i want a helmet if you want a response from me

>>51746017
Gonna get skimmers and wall running 'cause why the fuck not. A 50 MPH hurricane kick comin' right at you.
>>51745987
Let's just say I'm the kind of guy in D&D who tries to grapple dragons, Los Tiburon style.

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does this count as a helmt?

>>51746055
>tries to grapple dragons
advice for you: don't try this in SR
the consequences are not worth it

I want a decker who looks like this guy without being infected. What metatype or qualities are best for that?

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>helmets protect your head, ergo it's a helmet

>>51746055
checked
TATSUMAKI SENPUKYAKU
no the other anon, but i read a great DnD greentext about a dude that grappled a dragon in the air and pinned it's wings, causing it to crash and burn

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>>51746106
here's my pic

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>>51746089
Yeah, yeah. SR and D&D are very different settings. I know the limits, and I'm gonna push them as far as I can. But they're still there.

>>51746119
Yeah, that's Los Tiburon. Shit's resonated with me so hard.

>>51745642
It's not hard to go Trust Fund, or Day Job / Electronic Witness(/Fame), to blow off the interest rate of In Debt.

>>51746106
>>51746125
Hobgoblin?
Cosmetic Bioware?

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>>51746125
would you call that a hobgoblin?
like, how tall would your char be?

>>51746119
Anon that's one of the most well-known greentexts.

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>>51746189
i have no way of knowing the company i keep in this thread
do you not have helmets to post?

>>51746206
I already did my posting duty.

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i've always liked this helmet by a SRdrawfag

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>>51746216
thank you for your helmet and excuse my misunderstanding

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>>51745494

IT'S FUCKING EL, LOS IS PLURAL

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>>51746242
spoopy; i like it; it's like a cyberpunk SnakeEyes

>>51746255
that helmet is spoopy too. the placement of the eyes makes it 2spoops4me and would get an intimidate bonus

>>51746278
for some reason that helmet remind me of the robot cop from Appleseed

>>51746279
that's a nice decker ballistic mask; 8.8/11

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>>51746296
Methinks that's part of the joke. Cultural appropriation and all that, y'know?

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>>51746333
checked
that an animu?

>>51746184
the fuck is with her tits?

Does anyone have a pic that looks like the shadowrun equivalent of guts' berserker armor?
I had a cool idea for a wolf spirit shaman

>>51746354
those are pneumatic pockets; if she gets shot it compresses the location and stops the bleeding

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>>51746359
does this count?
not really, i know

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>>51746395

>>51746404
I was thinking more like a suit of armor than a bunch of ware, but i appreciate the attempt

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>>51746419
i have very little power armor - for some reason this surprises me

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>>51746447

>>51746447
...Are those dicks?

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This....might be full body armor

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>>51746498
it's the number 2
freud says hello

>>51746515
I mean it could be dicks.

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>>51746525
it could be dicks you have on your mind at all times? i would agree with you anon.

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>>51746501
that looks far more like full body replacement to me

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>>51746542
yeah i agree.
the armor anon might just want to use a pic of the berserk armor and add a ballistic mask to it

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>>51746575
nice bike breh

>>51746573
I think i might, yeah

>>51746573
Is that what an all Decker shadowrunning team looks like?

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>>51746611
checked
it could be, but this is what i think of when i think of an all decker team

>>51746587
>ywn have a crazy biker gang gf.

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>>51746646
>ywn have a crazy troll biker gang gf

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is anyone baking?

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>>51746223
Hey, it's the character that I requested like, a year ago. Cool.

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>tfw no a v e r a g e holo gf

>>51746695
what's up! i'm not the drawfag but i was in that thread. did you ever have a chance to playtest that char?

>>51746683
>>/ck/???

>>51746772
making the new thread as the old one runs out of posts - how big are the threads allowed to get nowadays?

>>51746793
Bump limit is 310
but if you want to make it wait until we're at page 9 at the very least

>>51739842
Mysad. Mysad with a focus on murder and murder related activities. And a case of surge III.

Actually..

Surge III for a troll, pref a formori because they're prettier. And arcane resistance is neat. Ish. Uh, camo fur, elongated limbs, functional prehensile tail, monkey paws, fangs, berserker, critter spook, Nocturnal, unusual hair, impaired logic.

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>>51746811
i won't do anything atm and i probably will not be online long enough to hit page 9 so forget i said anything

>>51746351
Don't think so. If it is, I'd prolly watch it.

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>>51746939
totally; it looks like a dope manga cover imo

>>51746711
Awesome. Very rarely do enemies have full chem seals, so he was great at blocking off entire sections of battle or flushing enemies out of cover with either LTL or lethal gasses.

Using thermals on top of it allowed me to easily pick off high value targets like mages, or get in close quarters with people while remaining concealed.Any badasses with chem seals and thermals I could usually out shoot or flash bang.

My best story with him was when I flooded a 50 long 10 meter wide street outside of my house with Neurostun, knocking out 20 gangers that were after the bounty on my head.

I hand cuffed all of them and brought them into my place so that they could sleep off the stun. When they woke up they were greeted with a ham and cheese sandwich, glass of water, and a pain pill with an ultimatum of "stop trying to kill me or next time you'll be dead." Earned a lot of friends with that one.

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>>51747220
>When they woke up they were greeted with a ham and cheese sandwich, glass of water, and a pain pill
EAT ALL THE EGGS

>>51747363
I thought it was cool at the time, but yeah.

I'm actually getting a chance to play a character again, and I'm just gonna replay the same character more likely than not cause he's fun.

Does anyone have some tile sets that I can use on Roll20?

Recently moved over to it due to a few players having to move around a lot, sometimes to other states due to their work so they can't make it to physical sessions.

I know they have some stuff in their library on Roll20 but get fucked if I'm going to drop $6USD on some tiles.

Question: How do enemies work? A player requested that he have one rather than the wanted quality, so rather than random bounty hunters he ends up with his own personal Javert. I'm ok with the idea but can't find rules for it ANYWHERE.

>>51747602
What's the name of the quality?

>>51747632
It's not a quality; in chummer, in your contacts, there's a tab called Enemies. As far as I can tell they're reverse contacts: they have a connection and loyalty (enmity?) raiting, and you gain 1 karma per point of each. He's wanting to trade Wanted for a 6/4 enemy, which evens out as far as karma is concerned.

>>51747698
Enemies are 4thed holdovers. Some people like to use them. Check the older books on how they work, and if you have no problem with them, it's your call.