Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1327: Professor Triple Extra Large Edition

So what's the max amount of power I can get from DBZM and DBZAF with perks alone?

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Jumpers, have you ever forgotten something important?

>>51574362
As a villainous Saiyan in AF get both the Transformation capstone and the Power capstone. Have a companion buy the Power capstone. Total cost 1150.

In Multiverse get the Potara Earrings to fuse with the Companion from AF.

>>51574392
>...
>I'll be right back

>>51574362
The more you guys talk about power levels, the more I realize that they are, in fact, bullshit, and the only meaningful build is to take Gag World in DBZM.

>>51574392
I have A Sapient God-computer as a PDA, And awesome time travel abilities,I don't do late.

Any updates on the Genius the Transgression, or Prisma Illya jumps?

>>51574523
Personally I plan on picking up forms because I think they're cool, even the stupid ones.

But yeah, anon, in a way, taking gag world or at least injecting a lot of jokes is exactly what Toriyama would want you to do.

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>>51574523
Power Levels are bullshit that's why there's no use complaining about them

Look at this nigga right here, he hasn't been relevant since Worlds Strongest but he kicked ass in Revival of F, Toriyama basically said he is only as strong as he wants to be and now he is on the team deciding the fate of the universe, yet his power level was sitting around 200 until now

Powerlevels are meaningless across all jumps therefor people who complain about being overpowered in a single player make believe cyoa are stupid

I am just popping in for a minute to let the thread know I am almost done with a jump of World of Cultivation. It is a xianxia. All I have left is the custom table that allows you to create your own cultivation method. I hope you guys like it when it is done.

>>51574630
The obvious reason is that Roshi noticed what his pupils had been up to, and has since trained himself like they have.

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>>51574349
Jumpers how do you make a snow cone.

And I'm not talking about any normal snow cone I'm talking about the PERFECT snow cone.

>>51574677
Femtomachines chipping the ice into such a shape that it reflects all light and repels all heat, existing at absolute zero internally yet also becoming a shining beacon of light and heat.

Also it's lemon flavored, I swear.

>>51574677
Go to adventure time and learn ice ninja magic. Or naruto and do the same.

>>51574677
Ice shaved from the glaciers of Jotunheim taken from a Marvel Jump
Add juice from Rainbow Fruit from Toriko

>>51574644
Looking forward to it. I always love seeing people talk about Xianxia it is an under appreciated genre that deserves more attention

>>51574644
Can't wait for it.

>>51574644
>World of Cultivation
Is that the story about the farmer who beats up cultivators for distracting him from farming?

>>51574677
to accept perfection is to stop advancing, also snow cones are tawdry things that cut Up the roof of your mouth. Now the milluple churned fourth flavor ice cream made with milky whale milk and sweetened with conceptual sugar on the other hand, is actually quite good on a hot day.

>>51574813
>Damned cultivators living in the clouds, they need to get a real job.

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>>51574813
Well Obviously. Who else would beat them up for messing with farming, the Noblemen?

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>>51574644
>create your own cultivation method

>>51574644
Crying is a good method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl_HfTZ69Xw

>>51574888
you must be really bad at lewd If you can fit 100 Lewds into a single day the process should take you at least four hours, right?

>>51574888
>>51574904
Let's do the Time Warp again!
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51395796/#51398734

I have a question for anyone who knows about Nechronica.

How common are the Dolls/Sisters? If one actually made an effort to go out searching for them on a regular basis, how likely would it be to find them?

I'm trying to do some rough estimates of how many Sisters/Dolls my little community ends up with after ten years and I have no idea what kind of numbers to event expect.

I'm planning on going full out on the Search and Rescue. Teleportation and Divination magic levels of all out.

>>51574644
>allows you to create your own cultivation method
Can I forge my from iron? I like to forge things.

>>51574948
yeah but still, even with relative time Dilation that's not fitting 100 lewds in a subjective day. that's That is at most 14 minutes a lewd. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=24+hours+divided+by+100

which is pathetic.
unless >>51574888 is female and using the wounded Seagull technique In which case by taking dudes five at a time it would take an hour.

Are there any sanity/mental well being perks in jumps that are safe to take early? I'd like my Jumper to not have to suffer my depression. I wish there was a Mind Mod to go with Body Mod.

>>51575048
I tried to back door back into the original Version of animal Crossing, people didn't like that. EVO: can be relatively safe if you don't take drawbacks.

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>>51575048
Generic Universal Monsters has a good one.

>>51574747
But it's just shonen with asshole protagonists.

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By the way, Super is about to host its own multiversal tournament. In which universes may or may not explode.

In case anyone was interested.

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>>51575067
Nope, not getting roped into another insane bancho moment. After 1000 threads I'm free, my pattern recognition skill has finally leveled up.

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>>51575112
That is interesting but is also covered in the DBZ end jump as it is a continuation of Z and not a fan created spinoff project like Multiverse and AF

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>>51574523
Finally! Someone GETS it!

>>51574392
I forgot Elvira's on speaking terms with Cain, Abel and Destiny of the Endless.

I mentally shat a brick when I saw them chatting in DC Occult like it ain't even a thing. Destiny then looked up and read "And as the Jumper slowly recovered from utter shock, I thumbed through the pages to show him that one time we hosted a series of horror stories together. Those were simpler days, when I didn't have a whole family of dysfunctional anthropomorphic personifications to worry about. Or the occasionally loitering dimensional anomaly. My book was a lot lighter back then"

And so I did.

It seemed rude not to.

>>51574677
1. Preheat a vaporised cloud of water to -2 degrees, and waft it around with an artificial air current system using my own sorcerous intuition, to begin incorporating perfection as a concept.

2. Trace the soon-to-be snow through the Mudras of Refinement and Timeless Glory until it begins to fall for about 20 minutes. Thus ensuring the snowcone will never diminish, Avalon-style.

3. Using the power of Page of Void, extend my very soul outwards throughout all of existence to find the most ideal snowcone as a reference point.

4. Teleport the snow towards my Elemental Pole of Dreams, where my personal combination of the First and Third Magics as well as Divine Words (also known as the High Speed Materialisation of Nothingness) will be used to crystalise a dream of the perfect snowcone out of True Ether.

5. Using Szoreny-wood and Pyrian shards, distill a viric laser in order to actualise flavors found only in the dreams of the multiverse's most refined snowcone connoiseurs.

6. Using Cytherean energy and Oramus-flame, cultivate impossibly delicious melons, berries and other fruits to garnish the snowcone with.

7. Serves one very lucky child from now until the end of time.

>>51574813
I have a xianxia potato. I feel like this is going to end badly now.

>>51575112
>Angel
>Cat Popo
>pink elephant

wut

>>51575185
DBM has a +0 drawback that makes the Super universes exist as alternate realities.

>>51575176
Eh, what are you talking about?

>>51575185
>>51574630
Also:
>17
>Roshi
>Relevant again somehow

>>51575206
>>51574523
Dr Slump jump when?

>>51574982
Most necromancers keep a few around to torture for their own amusement. So since those guys are big time world rulers in this apocalypse, not many exist.

>>51575229
I meant to reply to >>51575016

>>51575249
>>51575112
Well it's decided by the ten most powerful beings in the universe. With Goku having killed most of the villains, pretty much just him and his friends are left.

>>51575260
Oh. Carry on, then.

>>51575269
C'mon, Goku and Vegeta's kids are way beyond those two. Without even needing to fuse.

Yo /jc/ so a question about companions and stuff, especially in Jumps not giving us the option of a specific companion.

(Personally, I really, really want to grab the best Kurokami from MedakaBox, Kujira, but decided to make this a general query so I can refer to this in future)

So what happens? Do I fanwank something? Use a Supplement? Or cry as I have to give up my dreams?

>>51574813
It is, although he hasnt actually been farming for a while now what with the war and all.

>>51575014
Forging has an entire background devoted to it. While it is a particularly strong background for people who want to make stuff it also gets less allocated points as standard in the cultivation table.

>>51574888
I am hoping it turns out right, I havent done a custom table before and I want this one to turn out right.

>>51574878
>>51574844
The drop in line is the farmer line, allows the person to raise ling plants and ling beasts as part of its perk line.

>>51575281
Perhaps Goten and Kid Trunks, being the disgusting and disappointing losers that they are, declined the invitation.

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>>51572664
>>51575206
>It was mainly the one at the end and fuckhuge blasts, yeah. Also in-setting he's...
Right, makes sense.

>That and being able to just tank one's way through a timestop seems very high essence Lunar-y.
Seemed like a shaping defence to me. Possibly based on Strength/Stamina.

>Later one of Groug's peers tanks an entire army firing Stasis weapons on him for days or weeks (I forgot),
Classic example of Luna's Fortitude in action, yes. Or ludicrous soak. Both?

>Wait. Wait, Lunars have time manipulation?!
Yeah, time (and space) manipulation's one of the things they start doing at higher(ish) essence. Reverse aging, speeding themselves up, dialing the time in their pocket dimensions up and down, and other fuckery.

Hell, Blinking Eye Of Chaos allows them to slow everyone around them down to about half speed (which looks like dilating time mechanically), and that's only essence 4. (But requires being in Wyld areas until you are Essence 7 and can do Wyld charms everywhere.)

I could easily see high-essence charms building onto that to replicate Nox's time"stop".

>And I dunno, he regens by using drones to siphon life energy into himself. That, along with the zombies, screams Abyssal necrotech to me...
True... Abyssal would fit that more. Just have to delve deep into Sorcery and Artifacts for the timefuckery then. Though Necrotech's not exclusively Abyssal, it /does/ make more sense for an Abyssal to use.

>Admittedly I might be overlooking something, but considering Luna actually has an intimacy of fear towards Autocthon I'd imagine she'd be leary of equipping her champions with a proficiency towards artifice.
Admittedly, Lunars aren't great at artifice with their charms, no. But just because they can't pump out artifacts with dedicated Craft charms like Solars doesn't mean they can't do it at all.

>Here we see an elder Solar...
Cool.

>>51575249
>Dr Slump jump when?

>Drop-in
>Scientist
>Townie
>Android (with a joke about not knowing the difference between an android and a cyborg)

>Drawback where not having a nose, due to the artstyle, hampers your daily life
>Drawback where you're the only serious character in the setting

>>51575286
Blue feather.

>>51575286
Cry, use a pod, or fanwank something.

I think giving a choice of canon companions is actually a relatively recent thing in jumpmaking, so a lot of older ones don't have the option.

>>51575324
Blue Feather?

>>51575286
feathers and Pods, pretty much your only option unless you're satisfied with making brain tapes and mounting them later.

>>51575251
Really? That few? I had thought there would be scattered, roaming groups of them or that pockets could be found hiding away from the world...

If there really are so few, that changes a lot.

>>51575373
No, dolls ONLY exist t the whim of necromancers. They don't come into existence on their own.

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>>51575185
>>51575112

Reminder that Goku is a threat to the universe. He convinced Zen-Oh to hold the Multiverse Tournament in DB Super.

He didn't know that the Zen-Oh twins would decide to destroy the losing universes but he's SEEN one of them destroy a universe first hand.

Beerus warned Goku that Zen-Oh is unpredictable but he still did it anyway.

All Jumpers are advised to kill Son Goku.

>>51575185
What's 17 doing there?

>>51575112
Kinda disappointed Cell isn't back.

>>51575382
But killing Goku would piss off Zen-Oh now, meaning you and your general universe will be obliterated in a blink.

>>51575385
>What's 17 doing there?
With all the great villains dead, 17 is among the 10 most powerful beings in Universe 7.

>>51575289
I really just like forging metaphors in things like cultivation. Like, what the true smith forges is himself, or in working metal into shape the metal works you into shape.

>>51575380
And I'm guessing there are next to no escapees?

Well, that's one plan down the tubes. Unless I'm willing to steal them directly from Necromancers.

>>51575382
Who's the purple guy?

>>51575382
why did goku kill gun man

>>51575443
If you're stealing them from necromancers, beware, there's a subset of dolls, under a name I don't remember, who are powered up girls who are loyal to the necromancer, for whatever reason. They'd either spy on you so a necromancer can kill you or infiltrate the city to slaughter dolls.

>>51575289
Can we get Wip ?

>>51575476
he's only unconcious

>>51575416

That's simple to fix.

Just kill Goku before he ever meets Zen-Oh. They'd never have become friends and Zen-Oh has no reason to object to you killing him.

>>51575416
He will probably not even notice in the 10 years that you are in the jump.

>>51575506
I think those are the Savants. But you raise a great point.

I guess I'm making my own golem army to defend the city then. I could probably make my own Dolls... but that seems cruel.

>>51575539
Shouldn't we kill ourselves next for wanton killing people for what they might do without ever considering other options?

>>51575604

Well I guess if you want to be BORING, then you don't have to kill Goku.

You have to teach him not to be a selfish moron. That would avoid him starting the tournament.

>>51575604
Seems like the easier thing to do would be to selectively mindwipe portions of Goku's memory and/or alter his personality. That way, you can still keep him around as a battering ram.

>>51575647
Naaaah, this definitely sounds like we need to kill ourselves after doing the deed. We do seem to get a measure of entertainment from murdering people, and that's a really dangerous element to have around after all.

>>51575647
>Goku
>not a selfish moron
I thought you said you didn't have to kill him?

>>51575539
But then you have to help Trunks kill Zamasu.

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>>51575510
Sure this is the current WIP and it still needs work. As always prices may change and it needs editting. Some things may be added or lost before final upload as always

>>51575804
I am thinking of buffing the custom table points up a bit but we will see how things work out

>>51575761

But if Goku's not around, he can't set off Zamasu's raging autism.

>>51575712
Personality alteration also works if teaching doesn't. We have perks for that.

>>51575678
I mean there's a difference between enjoying killing threats to reality and willfully endagering the entire multiverse multiple times by engaging a utterly sociopathic near omnipotent being who ha fun by destroying planets and galaxies, then compounding then problem by bringing a perfect clone of him from a multiverse he already erased.

>>51575804
>Vidya is an acceptable method for cultivation
Yes.

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>>51575286
Use a pod, I mean you can use a Blue Feather, but some people here got an issue with that.

And let me say to you. Great taste indeed my friend, great taste indeed.

>>51575860
Zamasu's autism would have been set off anyway, it's just that Goku gave him a target for said autism. It was only a matter of time before he snapped.

>>51569814
>Autoboobs
Who is that supposed to be?

>>51575824
Maybe also add a CP -> Cultivation Points conversion?
By which I mean on the table.

>>51575946
It is on there but it is in the general perk section. I will add a note of it directly below the customization section head as well.

>>51575931
Optimus Prime, obviously. The color scheme and face mask should give it away.

>>51575869
Yeah, but if the only reason we're dead set on killing him in the first place is for our own entertainment. Goku is a hero who's done a lot of good over the years, and it's not like he'd be impossible to convince. The scenario we're given paints Jumper who has access to far more universes as someone who will make excuses to kill people for their own enjoyment without said person even having done anything yet. So, if they really wanted to do the right thing, they'd kill the omniversal threat to potentially incomprehensible numbers of sapient life.

I'm shitposting in case that wasn't clear already, just making sure we're all on the level here.

>>51575678
>Jumper tries to kill himself
>"Oh right, I have 40 regen factor perks and a trillion souls inside of me..."
>Jumper shrugs and goes to watch some TV

>>51576006
>Optimus Prime the hot ninja chick.
...Okay, i'll buy that.

>>51575890
Danke, she a cute psycho, really weak to those.

Now, these pods, where can I find them if I may ask?

>>51575804
Can we take multiple Cultivation Methods?

>>51576026
See, this is why we must all go on a quest to kill Jumper, nothing else could stop Jumper besides Jumper. Jumper would totally kick Jumper's ass, but the problem is actually killing them. I believe if we all put our heads together we'll be able to do it.

>>51576124
Honestly I had not thought of that before but I will add an option for you to buy a second cultivation method for cp that you will be able to customize as well. I think 100 cp would be a large enough price for it, I will tack it onto the basic cultivation method perk.

>>51575804
Isn't the power level of the world kinda low if the average age of high level cultivators is only 1000 years?

>>51575648

>Seems like the easier thing to do would be to selectively mindwipe portions of Goku's memory and/or alter his personality.

Any perks you'd recommend for that?

>>51576159
No I mean can we buy multiple options from the Special Cultivation Methods section, like being able to advance our cultivation through both Meditation and Vidya.

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>>51576120
You buy them from the Warehouse supplement. Their quite pricey, but if your willing to not have things like electrictiy or plumbing in the warehouse you can get at least one or two. I guess it really depends on what you find not necessary for a interdimensional warehouse?

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>>51576131
Jumper, are you using self-duplication powers again?

>>51576201
You can buy anything you have the points for, if you want to cultivate with vidya and using communal you could buy both and cultivate better while playing vidya with others who cultivate vidya boosting your cultivation with both if you wish.

>>51576192
It is and it isnt, nobody is immortal and the powers are not as high as in some settings. That said at one point you have a sword xiu who uses a greatsword that weighs 3 tons to fight. He is (to my knowledge) roughly average to slightly above average cultivation at the time and the mc does note how difficult that would be but he manages it.

>>51576195
"Remember Me" is basically "selective reprogramming of memories: the jump."

>>51576300

What about altering someone's personality?

>>51576222
there really should be something like Mr. Smith for jumpers. Something a jumper just has to deal with every jump it sounds fun.

>>51575425
Yeah but isn't he dead, too?

>>51576380
Take a nemesis drawback in the beginning. Carry it.

>>51576383
No. He's never been dead. He just fucked off to be a park ranger instead of hanging out with the z warriors.

>>51575048
Penny Dreadful has one in the Drop In tree. Also a Learning perk.

It is a monsters setting, but seems more atmospheric horror than having heavyweight monsters.

>>51576271
Reading the reviews of the novel, most people who read to raws seem to say that the story was good the first 100-200 chapters, but fell apart in the end. How would you rate it?

>>51576329
Well, that can be done by careful and selective alteration of memories.

If that's boring, though, you can always just throw a ton of corruption effects at him and see if that sticks.
That might piss off some of his friends, but... I mean, a lot of the problem is that he's an idiot who does stupid things. You could just take advantage of the corruption to put the kibosh on that and then just say, "Okay, go be nice to your friends and train." And, other than a weird tendency to occasionally scream "HAIL JUMPER!!", he... MIGHT be mostly the same.
I mean, the guys who got corrupted by Babidi mostly retained their personalities, right? It depends on what level of mindlessness you're shooting for.

You could also go for soul manipulation, which is a finicky science, but would be extremely effective if you could figure it out. There's a perk that lets you go into people's souls and move stuff around in Shin Megami Tensei. "Psycho Diver". It's not an exact science but it's there. Maybe test that out on some throwaway minions first.

If you're looking for something more benign, there's love potions from Gravity Falls, which create genuine love. Goku's loved ones can USUALLY reign him in a little bit.
At the very least, if you put in some effort to arrange for Goku to fight the people he wants without putting everyone at risk, he'd probably be all for that.

I mean, at the end of the day you just need him to be able to fight and still get on with his friends.

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>>51574392
All the time, I have a TERRIBLE memory. That's why I grabbed memory perks as soon as humanly possible.

>>51574523
100% Truth

>>51574677
>PERFECT snow cone.
Impossible, as Perfection is impossible.

>>51575314
>Drawback where you're the only serious character in the setting
Related, but worse, drawback
>You're the only character effected by the "logical" effects of the gags.

>>51576380
Make one up man, it's been done before by writefags. Go for it.

>>51576488
I Have only read the first 500 or so chapters but I love it. His elder friend is the real xianxia protag while zuo mo (the mc) is a relatively nice guy who just wants to survive and get rich. He starts as a farmer but gradually learns other ways as he is forced to change himself in order to survive. I read every new chapter as soon as they drop in english.

>>51576497
Personally I want to know how Toriyama is going to handle Zen-Oh in the end. The character is so blatantly a negative on existence, but he's not been portrayed as a villain. It's very strange. Is he really going to be allowed to blow up all the other universes? Is nobody really going to give him an attitude adjustment so he and his gods of destruction stop needlessly destroying life?

>>51576521
Nice. Looks like I've got something new to read then.

>>51576497
Corrupting Corruption That Corrupts from Obsidian Tower allows you to modify minds as well as body so that could work.

Where does it say Gravity Falls love potions create genuine love?

>>51575286
>Personally, I really, really want to grab the best Kurokami from MedakaBox, Kujira
In jumps where you do an import or create, I fanwank that if you can make the created companion have abilities close enough to a canon character, they can _be_ the canon character. This does not work for the canon characters way more powerful then can be gotten with CP, or with signature abilities there are no CP perks of, but it helps in some circumstances. Is that what you were talking about?

Unrelated question, has Arnold Schwarzenegger ever been in any sitcoms as a regular, or maybe even a cameo appearance?

>>51576557

Is it needless? I thought it was pretty explicit that they were being sold as necessary in the long run, at least their roles in the flow of the multiverse.

>>51576521
How does this compare to other settings in the genre in terms of the amount of power involved? Want to know how dangerous the enemies I might face here would be.

>>51576557
They will most likely stop him with the power of shonen friendship, and good food, or something else equally silly.

>>51576603
Destroying things so it doesn't go all cancerverse is fine.

Specifically targeting thriving civilizations and planets to exterminate is not. There's no reason to target them over dead rocks.

>>51576583
I beleive he was referring as to how he cna get a companion that is not purchaseable through the jump. Since the jump only allows you to pick up two specific characters from the series, and gives an import option, no creation option.

The jump is a little lackluster personally, I mean I know balancing that crazy manga is hard as hell, but I feel like people would go into this jump and not know that this jump has characters that can warp nonexistance or destroy stars with finger beams based solely on the jumps information.

>>51576580
The description of the perk itself. MATCH MADE! allows you to make love potions in all the shades and nuances. Everything from puppy to complete adoration.

Cupid also says something very similar with talking about the potions to Mabel.

>>51576580
> Where does it say Gravity Falls love potions create genuine love?
In the show. We see the effects and while they're instantaneous and lasting, they're far more like actual love than the weird date rape drugs of Harry Potter.

Gravity Falls also has a lot of different types of love available, everything from schoolyard crush to puppy love to real long-lasting romance, and even anti-love, which disintegrates the effects from other potions and causes the targets to hate each other.

This is all the focus of an entire episode. Mabel throws some love potion on Robbie, who is miserable, making him and a girl in the teenager clique fall in love. This causes a huge ripple of dysfunction in the other teenagers, because Robbie's also Wendy's ex, and one of the other guys had a crush on the girl who fell in love with Robbie, so Mabel and Dipper steal the anti-love potion to reset the effects.
But then it turns out the teenagers can all work out their differences like normal fucking humans, and they all remain friends, and the two teens in love are happy when they weren't before, so Mabel/Dipper just decide it's good enough as is and let it be.

RWBY Finale update: RNJR beat the Nuck. Jaune showed off how much he's improved, revealing Crocea Mors has a claymore mode via combining it with the sheath, and halting the Nuck's charge that would have killed Ren and Nora with pure strength alone, no shield. Ren went berserk, and was nearly killed, and had to be slapped to his senses by Nora while Ruby and Jaune held off the Nuck, but with the rest of the team was finally able to take revenge, cutting off the Nuck's arms and head with the dagger his father gave him.

Qrow survived, and seems to have recovered. Furthermore, he and Oscar have met, and after Oscar told him (at Ozpin's beckoning) "I'd like my cane.", Qrow gave him Ozpin's cane, knowing instantly who he was. Professor Lionheart, someone who works at Haven Academy, is Salem's informant, and is meeting with Doctor Watts. Everyone is headed towards Mistral. Also Cinder is using Emerald's illusions to kill fake Rubies. Girl is not right in the head. Also Yang got a new song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfdsWzjcy58

>>51576675
>>51576677

Huh. Cool.

I was put off Gravity Falls after hearing people complain about it on /co/, but that seems like a reasonable ending.

>>51576606
The strongest we have seen so far in english is a yuanyang. Thats high middle cultivation. Like rank 5 out of 7.

When two of them fight entire islands can dissapear and pretty much only other yunyang or higher in setting can kill them.

Jindan (the ranks below) are normally the most powerful you will run into in most areas and they can kill a lot of people but they can also be taken out easily enough with proper planning.

Im actually adding the ranks into the nites as we speak.

>>51576706
People on /co/ complained about it due to it being popular/seeing it spammed everywhere. Despite being tumblr and SJW as fuck most of the time, they're really similar to /a/ when it comes to popularity.

>>51576674
> spoilers
And let's not get started on how crazy the "baseline" power usage can get.

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How is Fate/Zero going?

>>51576742
I'd rather know how Street Fighter is going.

>>51576706
/co/ complains about everything.

Honestly, you should give the first episode a try, and see if you like it. Think for yourself, mein.
It's not even one of those "oh it gets good <#> episodes in you just gotta stick with it" deals. You'll have the gist by the end of the first episode. There's lots of mystery and jokes.

It's pretty quality. But if you decide that you don't like it, that's okay, and at least you'll be able to say why instead of just "4chan told me it was bad"

>>51571463
Ah so they eventually merge into one being. That kinda sucks, its worse than the Avatar Cycle. At least your previous self doesn't rewrite you into them.

>>51576742
I'm also interested in this. Also God of Highschool.

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Jumpers, what are your minions like?

Samurai Jack question.
You can buy multiple Magics, right?
I want to purchase multiple Element Control for the full set of Wind, Fire, Water, Earth, Wood.
And want to buy Summon three times so when enter Worm I can troll Cauldron by acting like the other entities version of the Faerie Queen.

>>51576792
>At least your previous...
You've got it the other way around. Eventually, Ozpin will most likely fade away into Oscar. The man we've known as "Ozpin" will cease to exist.

>>51576888
Pretty sure you can buy multiple magics, but not the same kind more than once. I'm almost certain that Summon is only purchasable once, the Element Control sounds reasonable. Maybe ask KOTOR next you see him?

>>51576834
If we're talking about low-tier minions, mostly demons, undead (mostly vampirea).

>>51576834
Mostly goblins.

Main minion is also main companion and is more of a butler turned Jamaican space pirate.

>>51576912
The Summon is the one I really need though.
I mean to everyone else I look like Glastic 2.0.
She can summon 3 ghosts, I can summon 3 departed.
Hers are just projections, but mine seem fully real.
She can switch summons easily, but I can only do it once a day.
She can only bring back capes she has collected, but I can bring back anything and everything I have killed.
The summoning the dead thinks makes most everyone see me as the counterpart to the Faerie King, but the fact it does not need capes at all should make Cauldron, who think they know how her powers work (agent responsible for recycling agents of dead capes) make the similarity of what has to be a completely different power to hers look suspicious and intentional, when they know triggers are not supposed to work that way.

>>51576207
Any jumper who can't wire their own warehouse electricity, or atleast get a companion to do it, doesn't deserve the comfort of lights.

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>>51576834
Robots! Lots and lots of robots, of all kinds of shapes and sizes.

>>51576834
I don't bother most of the time, otherwise, it's a team of crazy-trained badass normals geared with cheat items I made.

>>51576834
Space Marines, created with the first magic. The legion grows ever larger due to my preference for making more for every task instead of using the ones I already have.

>>51577039
Use Dark Binding from Hellsing or that capstone from Dragonball Multiverse. Both are way better than the Samurai Jack one. Or maybe just get Thanatos.

When even SB thinks the new Dragon Ball jumps are powergrabs, can you really claim they aren't?

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>>51576742
Speaking of Nasu, what are the chances if Aoko Aozaki getting along with a morally grey Jumper?

>>51577142
0/10 quality bait. At this point bringing up SB is way too obvious.

>>51577157
Aoko does what Aoko wants. Good luck Jumper.

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>>51577142

>>51577142
People wanted non endjump Dragon Ball, unfortunately the only things jump makers have to work with on that count is fanfictions. Dragon Ball fanfiction has a habit of including bullshit power levels that make any jumps set in them feel like power grabs.

>>51576834
Ideally, Regular people from the current jump I have empowered in various ways. Like turns out the Frankenstein Process from Penny Dreadful does not have to be used on only dead people, and synergies really well with conduits. If you know the science behind both, you can pass energy through a existing Electrokinetic Conduit to the donor, to give them not just the conduit abilities, but a Frankenstein like hardier body then the normal conduit making procedure, without the Frankenstein processes "needs stitching up after being hurt" because they can heal using electricity, including the trickle of bio electricity naturally produced by the human body.

And then give them Power Armor, because why not?

>>51577142
>SB thinks
I don't care what they think, and do not wish to know. Bringing them up is not an argument.

>>51577208
It's bait, it doesn't have to include arguments.

>>51577142
Kind of puts the lie to the claim that the objection to DBZ being an end jump was that people loved the setting and wanted to go there without having to end their chains. Because here we have these alternate settings that just happen to have the same power level, and people are jumping at them. I don't personally care about the power level stuff, if people want to be strong that's fine. This is a dumb escapist power fantasy either way. But don't pretend that you love the setting so much, if this is what you care about.

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>>51576834
Bodacious Babes.

>>51577215
And here I thought the person posting Bodacious Babes had taste. Apparently I was mistaken.

>>51575382
Oh come on he didn't know Zen-Oh was going to get all universe busty. Handing cell the senzu bean before he fought Gohan is far worse.

>>51576207
Hmm, had trouble finding it since for some reason, the Google Drive file hasn't updated it and I had to go the webpage. Anyways, thanks Anon, I appreciate the help!

>>51575452
Hit. He's a time stopping assassin strong enough to go toe to toe with Super Bluper Saiyan Goku.

>>51577142
So don't use them? Or perhaps make your own content for once? I know both are a giant stretch for you guys.

>>51577211
It actually bothers me a lot since I love DBZ to pieces and agree that the endjump limits the amount of ways you could interact with the canon. Thing is, tapdancing around it or wanking power levels doesn't really make me happy about either side of the argument. Not much I can do about it, either, without being able to hear the endof it.

>>51577306
>Responding to bait with a terrible opinion that equates talking about DBZ to 'powerwanking'.
You're just as bad as the shitposter frankly.

>>51577194
Multiverse is weaker than Super. If AF only goes a bit further than GT, it's also weaker.

>>51577265
This kind of shit actually makes more sense in Abridged DBZ. Goku just has brain damage, and is retarded.

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>>51577211
>This is a dumb escapist power fantasy either way
This is why I've never understood the people arguing against Jumps with a higher overall power. If they are so against it just don't jump it, it's your Chain no one is forcing you

Let people jump what they want, if they want to go to DBAF and become a SSJ10 God that's their prerogative

>>51577359
Like I said, I don't care about the powerwanking. That's fine, who doesn't want to imagine being powerful? I just think that pretending you don't want to powerwank is dishonest. It's okay guys, we're all wankers here.

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>>51577221

Bodacious Babes

Some other anons pretend to be me sometimes

>>51577359
>if they want to go to Suggsverse and become a Omnipotent^10 God that's their prerogative

Sure, whatever you say, SB-poster...

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>>51577359
>>51577389
STOP WANKING.

>>51577447
But it feels so good

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>>51577447
No.

>>51577447
As soon as I become the little girl I'll find something else to do.

>>51577447
You can't stop me anon. I'll seduce jump-chan, become L I T E R A L L Y omnipotent, and make my own damn tea.

>>51577194
>People wanted non endjump Dragon Ball, unfortunately the only things jump makers have to work with on that count is fanfictions.
I'd like an actual Dragon Ball jump. You know, the first one, before the Z was ever a thing? Where you could have plot happen without an entire episode where nothing at all happens except opposing sides talking about how they are going to power up and beat you with this new technique (which is not actually shown in this episode, that comes next episode) On, and everyone being surprised REALLY, REEALLY LOUDLY?!?

I mean there is like a decade or more between then Dragon Ball begins and Dragon Ball Z happens, a setting that has been fully shown, no fan fiction needed at all.

>>51577142
Go away Timmy, nobody cares about you.

>>51577546
>tea
This meme needs to stop, it's boiling over.

>>51577413
First of all I'm not the SB-poster and second it is in the hands of the individual Jumper to do whatever the fuck they want
If a Jumper want's to do that kind of shit who are you to say anything or judge their Chain
Hell even shit the Jump Makers themselves say are only really suggestions and have no bearing on what the individual actually does
If I created a Chain in which I had DOUBLE INFINITE CP to spend on every jump you couldn't stop me
So stop complaining about "power grabs" and shit being too "overpowered" and "Inter-Jump Balance"you can't enforce your opinions like they're holy fucking commandments

>>51577565
>want's
stop using apostrophes to pluralize things.
you're allowed to have shite opinions, but shite grammar is a different matter.

>>51577610
How bout you go fuck yourself
Hows that grammar

>>51577550
The Dragon Ball end jump starts during regular Dragon Ball.

>>51577565
Holy shit, the powerwankers are out in force.

Red, you are the savior we need!

Ah, remember the days when people unionically accused people of being powerwankers or wanting to have omnipotence handed to them? Because I do. I wonder what changed...

>>51577680
The nerfwhores were run out of the thread. Good riddance.

>>51577680
Probably accepting an Exalted jump to the drive.

At least this proves scatovore is behind both the powerwanker and nerfwhore shitposting.

>>51577659
Generally we use apostrophes to signal the abbreviation of a word (like about into 'bout), and for contractions (how is becomes how's). I know this seems complicated, but I believe in you.

>>51577709
We knew that already, though. He plays both sides because he wants to cause a fight.

>>51577662
Yeah, but you are stuck with it as an end jump with all the escalation once it automatically goes onto Z. Were you not paying attention to the quote in the first line of my post at all?
>People wanted non endjump Dragon Ball, unfortunately the only things jump makers have to work with on that count is fanfictions.

>>51577666
Jumpchain is nothing but powerwanking
It literally boils down to amassing the greatest amount of outside context powers and knowledge to steamroll any problem you'll ever have to face
You can try to dress it up any way you want but if you have more than 3 jumps in your Chain you are powerwanking whether you want to admit it or not

What are your pet peeves in jumps? I really hate it when I have 50 CP over and nothing to spend it on. Special snowflake victory conditions outside of drawbacks, scenarios or gauntlets are also terrible.

>You can choose up to three drawbacks (not including the drawback incurred from being a Hero or Villain).

Um... okay? Kind of weird. Am I misremembering, or was this always in S:tAS?

>>51577760
Maybe for you, for others it's a way of imagining a fun story and of interacting with your favorite settings.

>>51577768
Drawback limits that are based on number chosen, rather than points gained.

>>51576711
Does the Secret Paradise have a ling vein?

>>51577760
Funny how the people who complain about "powerwanking" are usually the people with the least imagination. You're a fucking moron.

>>51577786
Wrong.

>>51577813
Who are you, our glorious president?

>>51577819
He's merely the first baiter.

>>51577825
The Master Baiter.

>>51577825
First amongst the wankers.

>>51577760
I'll never get tired of seeing stupid people misuse the word "powerwanking."

>>51577807
Secret paradise has a ling vein I will change it to note that. The buddha temple also has one.

I know the Correspondence from Fallen London is canonically dangerous as hell, and is generally just good for setting yourself on fire. So taking the perk that lets you speak it isn't going to let you create universal law by speaking.

But there are some differences between the Jumper speaking the Correspondence and the player in Fallen London researching the sigils. For one thing, a Jumper could have hundreds of Intelligence and Speech Perk. They're also SPEAKING the Correspondence. From their mouth. Which is much harder than fucking around with stones.

Is it safe to assume that an EXTREMELY intelligent Jumper could scare the shit out of the Masters and make the Bazaar incredibly nervous after taking that perk? What I have in mind is using it to sound extremely frightening. A voice as searing and unforgiving as the heat of a star.

>>51577786
That to
But you can't deny that virtually every jumper could obliterate everyone in half the jumps out there if they have over 50 jumps
Sure having a gunfight in Generic Western to save the poor Mexican village makes a good story but you could just vaporize the banditos with magic or transmute a bunch of shit into gold for the villagers or use an antimatter super death beam to destroy all of Mexico
After a certain point almost nothing Barring Drawbacks can really pose a threat to most Jumpers unless it can bypass all defenses and regeneration and just insta-kill you
Even supers and shonen settings don't amount to much if your Chain is in the high double digits

So come up with all the cool fanfiction you want but at least admit that the only time you have any challenge in jump is when you decide to impose limits on yourself

>>51577768
Extremely expensive import costs
I know that its to limit overpowered companions but my chain is a crafting guild chain and having to spend 400-600cp on just importing my guildmates sucks.

Since im not importing to gain powers it feel like a lot of the time im spending half my cp on nothing.

Its entirely because of how I run my chain but holy fuck does it piss me off.

>>51577760
>powerwanking
That means ignoring limits, logic, and rules to gain more power from a source which can't actually do that.
A word you may have meant is powergaming, which is when people focus on amassing power over everything else.
Or possible power fantasy, implying that there's no chance of failure and you're just running around slapping everything down like uppity children.

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>>51577937
>A word you may have meant is powergaming, which is when people focus on amassing power over everything else.
>Or possible power fantasy, implying that there's no chance of failure and you're just running around slapping everything down like uppity children.
Congratulations you have defined Jumpchain

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>>51577875
>>51577937
It's like calling something edgy, the term has been so badly abused that the original meaning is now lost to time.

>>51577912
>After a certain point almost nothing Barring Drawbacks can really pose a threat to most Jumpers unless it can bypass all defenses and regeneration and just insta-kill you

See, this is the problem with people like you. The only reason you clamor about "powerwanking" is because you're too sheltered, too pathetic, and too selfish to think of anything but combat as a worthy or challenging endeavor. A jumper shouldn't be following the plot in those kinds of with; they need to set their ambitions higher. Also, fuck the idea that only combat can be interesting. There are other kinds of conflict and many more stories to tell.

I'm sorry that you have shit taste and can only enjoy shounen.

>>51577937
>just running around slapping everything down like uppity children
The Jumpchain's anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yG0QE9ce3U

Jumpers, how often do you use OOC powers?

I genrally limit myself to things I gained in the jump itself, excluding stuff like learning and charisma boosters, simply because I always feel /really/ cheap beating someone with something they could not possibly defend against. It's also much more satisfying for me to become the Very Bestᵀᴹ with the native magic/fighting system.

I do know though that there are a lot of jumpers that just change the world on day 1 of the jump with power that no one of that universe could stand against. So, how do you do it?

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>>51577895
Absolutely. It's worth noting the doors of ormolu and glass as well as throwing an auction when you own a Bazaar permit imply the Correspondence is involved, to some extent, in the Bazaar's feeding process upon commerce

That /really/ isn't what would probably worry them, though. It's implied the Correspondence is what their most important contracts are written in. The current status quo is maintained via a contract between Queen Victoria and the Masters.

And Bad Things happen when the contracts are fucked with. The ancient Egyptians managed to trap the Masters and Bazaar on Earth without any way to "collect" Egypt because a sympathetic Master helped them

Heck, the idea of a HUMAN being able to comfortably speak the Correspondence to any extent would be scary. So far, the two greatest known scholars have ended up as a crazy hobo king and a scrap dealer for the Masters.

Anyway, general scariness should totally be possible although it may come in a roundabout way. If you fail at stealing London street signs from the Bazaar, a Master puts on a spoopy mask with Correspondence sigils written on it. You're bombarded with the sight of burning words and the sound of chittering bats until you faint from fear

>>51578078
>Jumpers, how often do you use OOC powers?
All the time. Why the fuck not?

>I genrally limit myself to things I gained in the jump itself, excluding stuff like learning and charisma boosters, simply because I always feel /really/ cheap beating someone with something they could not possibly defend against.
This mindset is always fucking retarded. You're playing with peoples' lives to enable your petty amusement. This isn't a fucking fighting game where being "cheap" is actually an issue or a problem. It's pure evil.

If I rip off broly's arm and clone it, will it be a legendary saiyan?

...and I forgot where I was gonna by with this.

In DBAF, if I'm a saiyan and one of my companions is a saiyan/human hybrid, can they be my kid?

>>51578142
>not instantly blowing up someone with mindlasers is more evil than hiding your powerlevel?

...are you a xianxia protagonist?

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>>51577996
You know what you do you
I'm gonna keep jumping my way you keep jumping your way
We all go home happy
Except you seem to be incapable of being happy unless everyone is doing things your way
But hey this is /tg/ we're all a bunch of autists who can't accept other forms of FUN then our own
I mean look at how much time I've devoted to trying to defend my opinions when I don't have to
I can do whatever the fuck I want in this make believe nonsense "game" and you can do whatever you wan't

>>51577348

But. . .canon Goku does have brain damage. Isn't that all but confirmed by their phrasing of how his coming to Earth worked? All Saiyans have that violence loving conqueror side, but he hit his head and ended up chill. That's pretty much brain damage right there. Not to mention he was raised by Grandpa Gohan for only a few years, was up in the mountains for a while, went through Dragon Ball's plot and never really got any actual schooling, so he's got a lot of excuses for being dumb too. Brain damaged and dumb is pretty much canon.

>>51578157
A xianxia protag would limit themselves to gain the experience.
A smart protag would go all out against even a snail no decoy snails because they know that something could always threaten their life.

>>51578142
I fucking love how not steamrolling shit is used as a way to morally shame jumpers. Fuck off

>>51578157
No, you're just a goddamn idiot. You're enabling catastrophes and mass murders because you perceive the worlds that people live in as some twisted game. Killing your enemies isn't inherently evil.

>>51578172
I wanna be sedated.

>>51577348
So does canon Goku. He is also an alien with an alien set of instinct and emotions. Toriyama has confirmed he can't really feel stuff like familial love or get angry at someone for fighting against him.

What Gundams from universal century would it be a good idea to try and get?

>>51578191
Sounds awfully paranoid, anon.

>>51578202
You on the other hand, sound adorable. People play pretend in real life within varying degrees of social standing. You're just trying to stir shit up, while ironically only succeeding in making yourself look worse.

It's especially blatent how you aren't even bothering to reply to the other guy who directly called you out because you don't think you'll get a chain of responses from him.

>>51578223
>Toriyama has confirmed he can't really feel stuff like familial love
What? Really? That's fucked up.

>>51578172
What a hypocrite. You're the one who started lambasting this thread and it's posters because you're too unimaginative to find anything other than combat a worthy endeavor. You're the one trying to force your interpretation as the only correct one.

>So come up with all the cool fanfiction you want but at least admit that the only time you have any challenge in jump is when you decide to impose limits on yourself

>>51578172
Looking at that conversation you're the one who started out trying to claim your way is the only way to play jumpchain.

Good luck with those goalposts. Ain't nobody giving you a hand with them.

>>51578253
Yup. He just sees Chichi and Gohan and Goten as friends, the same way he views Piccolo, Krillien, or Bulma.

>>51578238
What time frame are you looking for?

>>51578251
>paranoid
There's paranoia and then there's an immortal, super intelligent snail with a million dollars that can kill you just by touching you.
Why hold back when facing a threat? If you never want to die, and want to become stronger, then you need to always go all out.

>>51578223
>>51578253

Y'know this makes a LOT of stuff make sense in hindsight but-

>>51578287
-if that's true, what does that say about Vegeta going all paternal instinct in Battle of the Gods?

>>51578287
He does view them as his best friends and closest companions but yeah Gohan probably would have had some fucking issues of Piccolo hadn't become his surrogate dad. He should still have fucking issues because he's basically been fighting life or death battles and watching people die since he was five but oh well.

Jumpers! Tell me the settings you would like to visit, but there just isn't enough content for a proper Jump

Ghost Trick for me. I adore the setting and the humor, but a full jump would just be difficult to make and probably involve lots of fanwanking.

>>51578253

He can still love people, it's just the concept of a family doesn't really compute with Saiyans. They fuck, they have children, but it's like how most animal couples don't really stay together to rear young. Romance and parental love isn't really a thing. Think of the best you're ever gonna get with a Saiyan being like, best friend status.

>>51578251
>you aren't even bothering to reply to the other guy who directly called you out
Oh, you mean this >>51578199 guy? I didn't respond to him because he doesn't have a point.

>>51578314
>-if that's true, what does that say about Vegeta going all paternal instinct in Battle of the Gods?
Vegeta got his entire sense of self shattered and then slowly built himself into a better person. It's basically his entire arc in DBZ.

>>51577937
Thank you so much for posting this.
I can't stand when people use powerwanking wrong.

>>51578314
>what does that say about Vegeta going all paternal instinct in Battle of the Gods?
That it's not a Saiyan thing, it's a Goku thing.
And yet more proof that Vegeta is a better "person" than Goku is, thank you Character Development.

>>51578142
Hey SB.

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>>51578078
Literally all the time

4 times out of 10 I swoop in and fix a problem that the main characters can't solve the other 6 I cause those problems

>>51578238
Depends on when, the tech does develop over time, basically though the protagonists suit from the latest point in whatever timeframe you are talking about. Special note though goes to the Unicorn, not because it's so powerful itself(it's pretty good for it's point in the timeline but not spectacularly) really but because it's from the series where Newtypes where less kind of a space wizard, and more actually space wizards.

So what jumps are currently in development?

>>51578328
Except that's a cultural thing, not a biological thing.
Since Goku's parents were a rare monogamous couple, and the royal line is monogamous.

>>51578347
It's less that it's not a saiyan and more that Vegeta is an exceptionally nice saiyan by Super. Mostly because people have punched his life into perspective.

>>51578318
Yuru Yuri.
I want to adopt Akari and make her the heir to my multi-dimension empire. I don't have one yet but should I be able to adopt her I'd very quickly raise one up for her.

>>51578347
>Goku is braindamaged and will always be defined by his atavistic Saiyan instincts
>Vegeta is sound of mind and actually has the capacity to grow as a person

...huh.

That. That almost makes Dragonball deep.

>>51578314
Vegeta isn't brain damaged, Goku is. Also, this >>51578337. Vegeta used to care even LESS about Trunks then Goku did about Gohan.

>>51578347
To be fair, Goku is, again, brain damaged. It's kind of unfair to say that Vegeta's a better "person" just because Goku legitimately can't feel or understand something due to something he can't control.

>>51578142
Eh, I feel like even if jumpchain were real, I wouldn't become some sort of hypergod of morality that has to fix everything and wants everyone to dance to his tunes. Really, just becoming a better person, power and personality wise, and enjoying an multiversal adventure would be enough for me. But hey, I'm in the minority here anyways, apparently.

>>51578306
>>51578359
I guess unicorn since that one looks kind of interesting.

>>51578386
Nono, that's what I MENT-that Vegeta comes from an alien mindset but gradually took a liking to human culture, whereas Goku grew up on Earth but always be a bit of a thug at heart. That's interesting to me.

>>51578078
I do the same, although I typically limit myself to abilities that are similar to the setting that I'm in. I'll use my Bending abilities in Naruto, for example, or use my biology and gengineering skills in Resident Evil. But I usually limit myself to using powers and skills that can be "explained" within the contexts of a jump, only using my full power when shit hits the fan and I've got few other options.

>>51577937
No it isn't. Powerwanking is when you're masturbating to your power. When it stops being about the story and starts being about self-indulgent celebration of power for its own sake.

>>51578379
This is the sci-fi part Toriyama actually thought ahead about. Goku's interactions with people in Z are heavily influenced by his saiyan blood.

>>51578386
>Vegeta used to care even LESS about Trunks then Goku did about Gohan.
TBF, that's because Trunks was from a one-night stand who he hadn't even seen in months from his perspective.

Then he got to know, and care about, Future Trunks. Who got the shit-kicked out of him by Cell.
It was FT getting fucked up that put everything into perspective for Vegeta.

>>51578318
Coraline, it could be done, and it's a neat story, but there's not a whole lot of world building in the book, or the moive.

>>51578417
You are literally retarded.

>>51578417
That's false. It sounds right, but that isn't the definition of the term.
You see wanking the power of a setting in this context is the same as what people do on the VS. Wiki. It has absolutely nothing to do with masturbation.

Go read a few articles there and tell me what people do here is powerwanking. I dare you.

>>51578405
Oh, I get you now. Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, that is kind of interesting, actually, especially since Vegeta actually adapts fairly quickly to human society, where as Goku...well, he's not as bad as Abridged makes him out to be, but he's still more than a little disconnected.

>>51578429
That's a fair point, though it did also take Vegeta being humbled (again) by Cell.

>>51578389

Nah dude, there are lots of moderates out here with us, literally tens. I for one just avoid these big arguments since they never accomplish anything.

>>51578415
Yup, I totally agree with that. The jumps I love the most are of settings I really like, especially the people. So I feel like I wouldn't be able to relate with them when I use powers left and right that simply don't exist in their universe. Also, most of the time I join the heroes and protagonists in their adventure, or play some other role in the story. If I were to use powers that could solve the conflict in a few minutes, what's the point? Where's the sense of adventure there?

>>51578366
I'm working on one.

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Update: You now have to remain relevant to the plot and keep earth alive. Also, some notes and a general 50cp item.

Questions from thread after I left:
>So is it possible to go Super Saiyan Blue as a Saiyan in AF?
No, see updated notes

>Can I start in DB or DBZ?
No.

>What counts as a 'neutral act' for Villain Mode?
Changed so that you often have the opportunity to help people and you have to now, or you have to fight.

>Do Saiyans start with any of the Super Saiyan forms, since this is post GT?
Only with Go Further Beyond

>If not, can the transformation from Go Further Beyond be Super Saiyan?
If you are a saiyan, yeah

>If we are Hybrids could we choose one of the races we bought for the Alien Fleet?
You can choose one, yes, but they just can't be hybids

>>51578466
This.

>>51578466
Haha, literally tens would be like 80% of /jc/ considering we only really have 70 people here. But you are probably right, most of the people who participate in arguments like that are namefags anyways, or people you can recognize by their writing style.

>>51578455
Friendly reminder that according to the VS wiki Samus can move over 8000X the speed of sound at will and is strong enough to bench the earth several times over.

Cloud and Tifa are planet busters according to the VS. wiki as well.
If people think /jc/ is full of powerwankers. They havent' seen anything yet.

>>51578318
We Need to Go Deeper and Miskatonic, two games that haven't been release yet so there is no content yet.

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>>51578187
As much as I support this train of thought, I'm pretty sure it's left purposefully ambiguous. The best description we get for his arrival is, "He was really unruly, and then he hit his head and almost died, and now he's nice now."
That could be brain damage, or it could just be straight amnesia.
As a side note, supposedly Turles, who is really similar to Goku in a lot of ways, is supposed to be like a whatif "Goku if he'd never hit his head", and they seem about as smart as each other, so I dunno, take that as you will.

Totally on point about the no schooling thing, though. The only thing he's ever studied was fightan, and he's some kind of prodigy about that, even among Saiyans.

>>51578314
Vegeta's not dumb as a fucking brick for one.
Which is weird to say that, considering the paragraph right above this one, but nobody's ever going to argue Goku's smart.
But, Vegeta has more to his character anyway. For one thing, he's got his pride as a Saiyan, which is a huge portion of his character, whereas Goku could give two shits.
What's more, despite his attitude, his family actively loves and supports him, whereas Goku's family is... well.
They've got their own lives.

So it's not that much of a leap to say that eventually Vegeta became the proud and noble king of his family, if nothing else.

Also, periodic fuckups do tend to humble a man, whereas Goku generally breezes through most things somehow relatively unscathed.

>>51578078
I actually use OOC powers quite a bit, but since my chain is slowly scaling up in terms of power, the OOC powers are on the same level as the setting I'm entering. For example, I was a Kamen Rider in RWBY, but to be honest, that's pretty much the same general level. I mostly do it just to stand out, though I also do it to cover certain niches that weren't covered in canon. For example, I was a medic in JJBA, healing the other Stardust Crusaders after their more difficult fights. I mean, I fought with them as well, but I was pretty much the only guy who could really work on them medically, so I was the medic. Does that make sense?

>>51578463
Relatively speaking, yeah. I mean, IIRC at one point in the Buu saga doesn't he actually let someone mind control him just because he's scared having a family made him lose his edge? But on the other hand, to be fair he does have the whole royal heritage thing to live up to. Whereas Goku...doesn't really have long-term aspirations beyond training.

Huh. Wouldn't it be an interesting twist for Goku's upbringing on Earth to have, ironically, further enabled his Saiyan heritage. Because he's got nothing to live up to, miss or be bitter over, he has no social expectations. So he simply goes apeshit (no pun intended) crazy over training because that imipresses people on Earth.

>>51578492
>You now have to remain relevant to the plot and keep earth alive

The former sounds REALLY subjective. The latter just seems arbitrarily unfair for any actual villain. I also don't like the idea of the villain background becoming a retired villain-when as a character arc, it seems more fitting for someone to make that choice themselves than have it clumsily showhorned in, especially it vastly limits agency when you're contractually obliged to not be the thing you used to be.

Other than that, I've no problem with the other answers.

>>51578492
Which SS form would you get if you take "Go Further Beyond"?

So you're saying that if you already had godly ki (from Dragon Ball MV or another jump) that you could train and reach SSG or SSGSS?

Does a hybrid get the discounts from both races or just their main one?

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>>51575804
>Flesh carving

you left the word body incomplete here, this Incomplete words are pretty much reoccurring throughout this.

>Item page

This is formatted kind of weird, Maybe add a line break and Bold instead of what you're doing.

>Lil Pagoda

you know a pagoda is a kind of building right? this doesn't really make sense.pic related

>Permanent Tempering

it's usually phrased as three first purchase free,also Three does not divide evenly into 25
So you might want to fix that. So things Fit nicer.


>>Deadly Teaching Requirements: +4

so is the jumper presumed to have Undergone this already and survived? would something like " Fight off several predatory animals unarmed" work? what about Survive or 10 seconds In outer space unprotected?

>>51578492
Man, why would you introduce that fail condition? Nobody even had a problem with the jump lacking one in the past threads. I mean, it's up to you, but there's really no reason to do it.

>>51575286
I usually have the ability to purchase canon companions to mean that you'll get them automatically as a result of spending CP. Depending on setting, it's basically just a guaranteed way to meet them and have them want to join you. For anyone else, like jumps where you can't bring any companions with you, you have to actually go out and track them down and work hard to convince them to give up their lives for possibly millenia in order to travel with you.

>>51578538
>Vegeta became the proud and noble king of his family, if nothing else.
Though he does like to pretend he doesn't care about them still, absolutely everyone, especially Bulma, sees right through it.

>>51578565
>doesn't he actually let someone mind control him just because he's scared having a family made him lose his edge?
Yes, but that was also the end of his character arc.
He fucked up, in an absolutely fucking COLOSSAL manor, just to get his "edge" back.

And what does he do in the end? He realizes his family is more important, saves Trunks, and sacrifices himself to save them.

>>51578468
Pretty much. I mostly jump settings that I like or have read and one of my biggest qualifications on what I use and do in a universe stems from asking myself the question "If I were reading this again and this character that I am showed up and did this, what would I think about it as the reader?" And the answer is usually that overpowering a setting with omnipotence and ridiculous OCPs is pretty boring both from a personal and from an outsider's standpoint. If I solved everybody's problems immediately my entire chain would turn into "JUMPER SAVES THE DAY!" repeated over and over ad infinitum with only minor variation in the details.

>>51578106
In that case, I think I'll subtly worry the Bazaar in response to it leaving out key details about the awful stuff it's doing. I won't tell anyone specifically what kind of non-human I am, either. What kind of effects would this stuff have, assuming I'm otherwise a perfect citizen?

Only referring to prices in Correspondence. Not anything else, just prices. "I'd like to buy three apples. That'll cost Forever hurtling toward the earth, right?"

Occasionally lighting nearby objects on fire during conversation and pretending not to notice.

Refusing to step in front of a mirror unless it's broken. If one isn't broken, I shatter it by saying something horrible in the Correspondence.

The first person to ask me a question about one of the huge mysteries of London will get a completely honest answer. Which could mean naming a city that came before London or something equally dangerous. Except I'll do it in Correspondence, so they won't understand a word of it. If I'm questioned about giving away dangerous knowledge, I'll say I was joking. Then I'll pretend to be surprised. "Are you saying I'm correct?!"

The rest of my time will be spent generally improving things behind the scenes and making an elaborate legal case for why the Bazaar really can love the Sun. Even if that isn't possible. I'm taking the "Your hair turns white. That's a feature" and acting like the weird, inexplicable person who has their hair turned white by linguistics.

>>51578404
Then I think you would want the RX-0 Unicorn Gundam 03 Phenex, as it was the final variant of the Unicorn, but it still has the same fatal flaw of exploding in a burst of space magic on contact with another Psycoframe. Though I think that the AMX-107R Rebawoo is similar in stats, and generally a heavier suit, but it doesn't have the Newtype Destroyer system, which is pretty powerful itself but requires you pass a will save to use properly.

>>51578509

Hah, more meant it in the joking way, but I suppose there would be a sizeable chunk who just minds their own business. I've been involved in this brain damage discussion, you guys having fun with your chains or whatever?

>>51578565
>fail condition
It's clear that you just want free power. Fuck off.

>>51578592
Every jump above street-level needs to have a mandatory fail condition and/or rail-roading, strating from this point on.

>>51578492
Are the victory conditions really necessary? I really loathe them and won't be jumping this if that stays in.

>>51578591
He already said it was a WIP, so assume that the grammar and formatting mistakes are gonna get fixed. As for the pagoda, it comes up in quite a few xianxia stories. Just assume it's a downscaled pagoda, working through literal magic (aka spiritual power).

>>51578492
>You now have to remain relevant to the plot and keep earth alive.
Yeeeeeah, when of of the first DBZ villains can casually planet bust, that doesn't exactly seem reasonable.

>>51578636
Go away, Babylon. Take your shitty pseudogauntlet with you.

>>51575804
>Dao of Jingshi
>Can take one item from any person you defeat in a fight
That is an amazing perk for pretty much every universe.

>>51578492
>No, see updated notes
Can you at least do it post-Spark, then? Or is it a permanently watered-down version of the race?

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>>51578187
>>51578223
>>51578253

That actually makes me curious for a moment.

If Goku is incapable of feeling familial love, what would happen if he suddenly could?

Gravity Falls love potions can apparently come in an variety of love, and that includes familial live.

What if you used that on Goku at the start of DBZ? Does he suddenly start acting like an actual PARENT to Gohan? Does he start trying to be romantic with Chi-Chi?

>>51578565
I believe it was more about Goku returning stronger than ever. Vegeta's been trying to surpass him for years, and now Goku's back even stronger? Despite ALL of Vegeta's hard work? Sure, the family thing played into it, but it was more like "I need to be strong again, like I used to be!". Of course, it did end up with him eventually deciding he cares more about his family and sacrificing himself, so there's that.

That actually makes a lot of sense, funnily enough. Goku ended up becoming a Saiyan paragon because he just decided to do what he most wanted to do. Which makes sense, Saiyan instincts and all that. The funny thing is, he actually ended up stronger because of hitting his head, because being a good guy led him to training with Master Roshi and Kami, which led him to be strong enough to work with Piccolo to beat Raditz at the cost of his life, which led to training with King Kai, which led to...I could go on. But yeah, hitting his head and living on Earth was the best thing that ever happened to him.

>>51578694
Ah, so now we see the real reason why people objected to the fail condition. They wanted to shit on an old jumpmaker.

>>51578565
I'll fix the subjectivness in the notes

>>51578587
Super Saiyan to start

If you already have Godly Ki then you could get there anyway, at least as a Saiyan

Both

>>51578592
>>51578649
>>51578677
Are they necessary? Maybe. I think that they are, but I'd like to hear an argument for why they should go.

>>51578702
I mean, if you go to the DBZ end jump godly ki and blue ssj are already possible. So yes.

>>51578694
Do people really have so little to do with their time that they have to reply to obvious bait literally every time it is posted? Really dude, cut it out. You're just motivating him further.

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>>51578538
That's actually a really cool way to support nurture in the nature vs nurture argument. Because it's so subtle you could easily overlook it as the writing in a gag episode.

>>51578613
I'll have to take your word for that. 70% of my DBZ knowledge comes from DBZ Abridged, and 20% of the remainder comes from their Xenoverse playthrough.

>>51578624
>spoiler 1

Confusion with a side order of panic at the public disorder. The Correspondence /really/ isn't the sort of thing the Masters-or anyone sane-would expect you to price APPLES with.

Besides, they have a tendency to burn things as flammable as apples and drive nearby customers insane.

>spoiler 2

Generalised paranoia; there's a lot of weirdness in the Neath. Expect to be tailed by lots of spies.

>spoiler 3

The former is just good survival instincts among Londoners. The latter is liable to frighten the Fingerkings a lot more than the Bazaar, considering Judgement is what stops them from existing in reality proper.

>spoiler 4

Like spoiler 2 but much more so now it knows you're not just about shits and giggles; expect to be taken seriously right off the bat.

And good luck.

>>51578719
True, the fail conditions are thematic and should be kept and hopefully expanded. Actually, why not make every jump into a gauntlet by default?

>>51578415
I tend to do the same, though I do keep using a lot of the survivability enhancing perks just to make life a little easier

>>51578733
Maybe give an argument for why they should stay instead? I really see no reason for it. Don't succumb to peer pressure and add a failure condition just because the two other DB jumps have one.

>>51578734
It probably took him no longer than twenty seconds or so to type that.

>>51578492
These changes are pretty dumb, mango.

>>51578702
I'd assume you could still take the race here, then the Super drawback in Multiverse and do it.

>>51578706
I mean, yeah, probably. To be fair, Goku WAS a parent to Gohan up until Raditz showed up. Most of Dragon Ball Z, Goku was either dead, terribly injured, or training to prepare for a new, terrible threat. Even then, he does try to be a dad during the Android/Cell Saga. The infamous Cell thing is because he just didn't understand that Gohan didn't want to fight. Goku and Vegeta are both so obsessed with fighting, Goku just naturally assumed that Gohan was as well. When Piccolo told him the truth, Goku PANICKED, and was visibly horrified. Now, not knowing that is a failure for him as a parent, but again, he is brain damaged. So yeah, giving him the potion would probably just make him a better Dad. As for Chi-Chi...you'll still have to explain to him how romance works, but he'll certainly try.

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>>51578635
I am, actually. This Restarted Chain is turning out a lot more fun now that I force myself to stop and write for it.

>>51578078
I tend to do something similar, especially after the scary amount of power I picked up in Forgotten Realms. In most settings I will limit myself to just what I've bought, which can cause a number of problems, but overall forces me to think and develop my new powers and abilities instead of just throwing them onto a pile. Gravity Falls was an excellent lesson, for me, on why tampering with the story of a world can have horrifying consequences. In most cases, it's not really necessary anyways.

There are some settings where going FULL JUMPER is necessary, but those are few and far between.

>>51578733
Well, to reiterate what I just posted: It restricts your agency to create a narrative by forcing you to avoid certain modes of confrontation or cutting lose rather than playing it safe. You yourself realised you had to rewrite the villain origin to fit with that aspect. If it's a question of challenge, given the rather selfish and powerhungry nature of DBZ villains I imagine anyone significant enough to blow up a planet so many people have something vested in would gather a lot of unfriendly attention, and then be hardpressed to survive on their own without the Earth as a safe base-so the way I see it, destroying the Earth/allowing it to be destroyed opens up a new host of challenges.

Relevance to the plot on the other hand restricts you to being a reactive force rather than starting your own plot and going all proactive. In a sense, it's like destiny is stopping you from performing meaningful changes by forcing you to be in a specific place and time rather than pace yourself for when you interact with the most significant events.

>>51578759
Yes, that is entirely correct. That would ultimately be better for this community. Only give points if you have some effect on canon.

>>51578733
It's not a good time for feedback. This thread is full of the scatovore trying to get in as much shitposting as he can before monday classes.

>>51578773
Twenty seconds of his miserable, useless life wasted. In those twenty seconds he could have also done the world a favour and killed himself.

Yes, I am angry. Angry about shitposters.

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>>51578869

>>51578771
I've added it because, realistically, I feel that I made this far more powergrabby than I had intended and that a limit should be put in place.

>>51578828
This has me pretty convinced, though. I'll mull it over a bit more.

>>51578844
I don't have much time after today myself. The next I'd be able to get critic would probably be at the end of this week

>>51578078
Always. There is nothing better than having everyone realice that you're on another league.

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>>51578793

I'm going to give Goku this hoodie. How do you think he'd react to it?

>>51578904
I don't think Goku would care
Might trigger Gohan though

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>>51578869
Weekends suck on /jc/ just a fact of life.

>>51578904
Honestly? He'd probably never wear it because it's not great for training in.

At least, not as much as his gi, which is lightweight and breathable.
Maybe he'd wear it on a cold day, though.
He'd probably think the saying was cute.

>>51578890
Thanks. I just want to say I do appreciate the position you're in, and that right now our resident shitstain's feeling a bit more proactive than usual (must've failed uni badly). So I'm grateful you took the time to read what I wrote when I was worried it might've come out incoherent.

I want to make clear that all I'm doing is expressing my reasoning, not mandating anything. As the jumpmaker, you of course have final say.

>>51578904
I think he'd get a better laugh out of the Training To Beat Goku one.

>>51578078
Every single jump. That said, I usually prefer not to fight at all. When I have to use my powers for whatever reason, I try to keep it as subtle as possible, with the exception of some overt environmental effects. If someone knows I have powers, I've done something wrong. That said, I don't needlessly restrict myself to in-setting abilities when it's necessary to use them.

>>51578891
That just feels overly mastubatory. Really, wouldn't it feel better if you made them realise that you're in a different league, only using the powers provided by the jump?
Also, in many settings you'd be giving people evidence that you're from another dimension, which I generally avoid, as it'll colour interactions with people in a generally negative way.

The worm jump is an exception though. That "Fucking Jumpers" drawback can make for an hilarious story.

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>>51578953
> Wear the "Training To Beat Goku" shirt.
> Goku wants to help you train.

>>51578990
>Krillin's just flattered someone out there's using him as a benchmark for powerlevel-to-beat

>>51578366
I'm working on Batman: The Animated Series and Fables. I also have ideas for a Oregon Trail Gauntlet and I'm whittling away at a Jump for the first of April.

>>51578744
Thank you! I'll only do the first one when no one is around and completely ignore the fourth one. I'd like people to think I'm weird and distressing, but in a fun way.

Although in the last few seconds before my Jump ends and I leave London entirely, I'll scare the hell out of everyone. After ten years of improving things, quieting the Revolutionaries, getting rid of the Sorrow Spiders, writing useful love stories, and quietly making Paris an easier target while secretly getting people to move, I'll turn to the Bazaar and use my last few seconds to say goodbye.

"Good luck dealing with Bjorntfh!"

>>51578492
Please define plot relevant. Can I be an old guy who runs a ramen stand and always gives checkovs advice?

Also, if I'm full saiyan, and I import a companion as a saiyan/human, can they be my kid?

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Howdy all!

>>51575804
Oh hey this looks neat, and is a great way to ease my chracter into Xian Xia as I fear going to the Generic World because it''ll eat a Jumper like me.

I actually wanna help the Scalping Zombie (Yeah I've read some of it, up to chapter 108 here, which is around the time of the Sword Test Conference when Zombie get's the bye) Not get into his problems but it seems most of thee early plot is taking off already.

So, if Goku doesn't feel romantic love, does that mean we're free to seduce Chi-chi?

>>51579012
Honestly he probably would be.
Krillin's a pretty cool guy.

>>51579015
You're approaching Worm-levels of waifuability. Keep it up.

>>51578492

Why this?Just why? Are you baiting?

Valeria mentioned that post Fate, Black Grail mud would work on anyone. That made me wonder - can non-spiritual creatures/humans get Alter corrupted as well? They do have souls to blacken, after all...

You guys are retarded bait takers, do you fucking know that? Learn your goddamn lesson.

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>>51578372
Yuru Yuri is a totally valid destination for the Sitcom jump. Canon companions are dirt cheap, too.

>>51578904
I don't think Goku can read.

>>51579149

Wait. Animated stuff is allowed for the Sitcom jump?

>>51579048
The hell would you want to? Chi Chi is worst girl.

>>51579149
Oh wow, that's amazing. I was ignoring the sitcom jump because >sitcoms, but with yuru yuri possible it's a must-jump destination for me.

>>51579034
By plot relevant I meant you have to fight often, although I am having second thoughts on it. As to the kid part... uh, sure. Your story, so go ahead.

>>51579103
No? I do have to ask to which part do you mean, though

>>51579165
He's been known to read before, if only to know who he's fighting.

>>51579149
Well, guess I better start raising up a multi-dimensional empire to give my daughteru.

>>51579048
>>51579191
True that. Just waifu Bulma.

>>51579165
Goku hires hitmen to assassinate himself in Super so ???

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>>51579080
Th-thanks, anon!

>>51579169
Cats specifically mentioned animated slice-of-life stuff in one of the updates. The Flinstones was used as an example.

>>51578328
What about Tarble?

>>51579034
Lol, no don't be so snippy. I know you're an SB-er and this threatens your free omnipotence, but there's no need to lash out at a jumpmaker like that.

>>51575286
My house rule is that I can take anyone willing as a Companion, but if the Jump doesn't strictly allow it:
1. Their power, skills and plot armor get brought down to, at most, those of a marginally badass human (thus I'm encouraged to pick "average" people, which is the way I prefer),
2. I can only have 8 Companions in total, not counting Pods. There are no inactive Companions.

>>51578328
>>51578223
This doesn't apply to Vegeta AT ALL. Maybe Goku can't personally (needs proof btw), but Vegeta sure did.

>>51579213
>cucking Vegeta
>probably ruining his entire character arc
C'mon mang. Waifu Launch instead.

>>51579048

>cucking Goku
>not just going to Universe 13 in DBM where Kakarot never hit his head as a baby and is still a violent savage.

Chi-Chi is single there