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Pathfinder General /pfg/

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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Do you want blazing hot, high level gestalt adventure in the Elemental Plane of Fire? If so, this is the game for you!
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing

Spheres of Might previews:
Part 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aLaYQEFAWU4zQBx58boJPPaySLgJc0Emmw9eKyIJeGI/
Part 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pyLq03W2ju58PcKOUq5YXoFowf_weBNzuWtjCMdINXk/edit

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>>51435365
Huh, and here I was thinking something similar. We should consider tag-teaming the teasing if we both get in.
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Reposting one more time in case anybody misses it, gonna leave this here and fish for critiques or ideas.

http://pastebin.com/Kb7DmA5m
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>>51435348
Bigger version of that pic here.

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2598387
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Is it just me or are players never properly in awe in character when in the presence of important individual?

You can usher them into a throne room built of captured fire and glass and introduce them to the ruler of the three allied planes and they just snark. Or be a level 2 and meet a level 18 wizard and not give a shit.
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>>51435348
You know, maybe if you stopped advertising these sorts of games in the OP itself, /tg/ wouldn't hate us more than they hate Jumpchain.
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>>51435434
Depends on the players. Most are, I think, just that arrogant, but some are probably trying to front and hoping they don't get turned inside out.
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>>51435348
Can you please stop advertising games in the OP? You managed to get rid of the helpful advice to people who want assistance in character-creation.
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>>51435434
>Is it just me or are players never properly in awe in character when in the presence of important individual?

First time my level 15 peasant met the king he fell to a knee, averted his eyes, and addressed him explicitly as "m'lord."
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To player of trigger twins, posted my advice in the last thread. Take it with a pinch of salt.
>>51435480
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>>51435468
Can we just make a new op when the other thread actually hits page 9 or 10 and leave this one to rot?
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>>51435430
What class dresses best like this?
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>>51435530
I responded in that thread

>>51435612
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>>51435623
You're looking at either Rogue, Bard, or vigilante - they're the ones that can get the most use out of disguises and bluff, meaning they're automatically the ones that care the most about fashion choices.
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>>51435434
They need to earn the "awe".
Because your players are still the defacto "main characters".
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>>51435798

A king should be given awe by virtue of their station.
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Alright, got the final teams for Pendragon Game.

Jesus, there were a good number of great apps in that, and I'm sorry I can't accept you all. As is, I'm doubling the number of players for it and will be running two games in (rough) parallel with one another.

Forming Team CARP, we have:
Caldia Durant
Allandria Tyrian
Rareven Lirodni
Cirrus Pascal

Led by... Caldia Durant!

Forming TEAM FFSH, we have:
Cherise Fontaine
Florence Chevalier
Seraphtor
Oswald Hamilton

Led by... Cherise Fontaine!
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>>51435815
>king should be given awe
>PCs could all individually punch him to death at no personal risk to themselves from his entire court
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>>51435913
If a long could be killed by a low level PC with no recourse then who ever made the setting was a retard.
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So if I just wanted to read up on Chileax and get the feel for the country, which book would all that be in?
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>>51435951
Either Cheliax: Empire of Devils, or the more recent Cheliax, the Infernal Empire
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>>51435975
Thank you.
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>>51435907
Well, fuck. Have fun.
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>>51435907
>CARP
>FFSH
fucking fish jokes
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>>51435907
Carp and fish, huh?
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>>51435907
I guess I'll just kill myself then.
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>>51436001
>>51436031
PM me if you don't mind doing a post-a-day PbP. I don't have time for a 3rd team game proper, but there were enough great apps for a 3rd team.
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>>51435487
>First time my level 15 peasant met the king he fell to a knee, averted his eyes, and addressed him explicitly as "m'lord."

And was promptly thrown in the dungeon for using the improper form of address, I should hope.
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>>51435907
i-i-i lost?
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>>51436124
See >>51436101
It's a matter of there not being enough hours in the day...
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>>51436107

Nope, the King was both gracious and glad to see us, failing to say "your majesty" wouldn't be that big a deal!
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>>51436101
Eh, PbP dies enough without adding in tabletop mechanics to it. There should be enough even with one or two no-gos, so have fun with that if it takes off as well.
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>>51435907
Runners up?
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If Jolly was right about there being an SoM playtest, I think it'd be fun to run a game just with those classes and stuff.
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is there much point in a 3/4 BAB initiator focusing on maneuvers taking power attack?
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>>51436204
My ideal "3rd Team" would be Evangeline and Amelia Weltschmerz, Andre Klowski and Valyier Fenwick, forming Team WAVE under Amelia Weltschmerz's leadership.
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>>51436260
Absolutely. By mid/high levels you're basically guaranteed to hit a lot of monsters even with 3/4 BAB, so Power Attack is free damage against them.
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>>51435530
I hope you're happy anon, I basically rewrote the entire app.
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Does anyone have like a file of a shit load of tokens and/or maps for Roll20? I wanna start running stuff on there, but my collection is crap.
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>dont even make the honorable mentions for the 5th time

should i stop making apps bros?
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>>51436451

Will anime tokens do?
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>>51436482
What kind of gigantic screen are you using that that's an effective token?
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>>51436482
Yes, yes they will. I also need maps, but tokens are +A
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>>51436490

I like to zoom in.
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>>51436490
Tokens auto-scale to about a 5-foot space, usually, don't they?
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>>51436490
It sizes down on roll20.
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>>51436469

I think you should make even more apps.
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>>51436518
>>51436519
Exactly my point anons, if it's shrunk down, how do you see what it is other than a red smudge?
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>>51436469
You've always got more chances. Don't give up!

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66875/wrath-of-the-raunchy

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem
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>>51436542
You can still make out details, or you zoom in closer.
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>>51436469
Who was your app? Let's review it and see if we can't help you!
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>>51435907
Hah, I knew I was getting in!
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>>51436335
I hope YOU have new insights into appmaking!
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Hey nerds, tell me about a campaign premise that would actually entice you to join a level 16, high PB gestalt game where mythic may be included.

Demigods? Last and Greatest Hope for Golarion against the Worldwound?
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>>51435813
>>51436330
>muscled but short warrior lady
>chest wrapped tightly
>squeezed into a poofy dress
>hair done up
>a bit of makeup
>she ends up looking like a cute young harmless noble girl
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>>51436616
What's with all these games doing level 16 gestalt now?
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>>51436616
Like these

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem

Only in the Outer Planes, just like Planescape!
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>>51436627

And yet, besides it all, she moves with the grace of a sylph on the dance floor, and firmly instructs the tall, gruff man dancing with her to actually wrap his hand around her waist as she hisses instructions through gritted teeth.
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>>51435907
Tell us who each of these people are! I can't remember their races or classes or designs!
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>>51436616
None, level 16 gestalt game is a huge red flag to never join for me, especially if you shit on mythic on top.
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>>51436469
There were two apps that didn't make it in.

If you were Toshimi, I must apologize, but the fact that you were in my HV game was the primary reason you didn't make first cut. I liked the character, but you've got the world's most moe Kuthonite in HV and are a beloved team member there (which means even if you're having issues with time, I will endeavor to accommodate you).

If you were Rana, it was the combination between grammar and backstory which made him the only application I had actual issue with. He was both too old and experienced really to be an entrant into the Institute, and the application was riddled with grammar errors. That being said, he was a cool concept and with polish would have been really neat, but he was just not a fit for the game I wanted to run.
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>>51436616
It's a huge red flag but something that addresses how gameplay at that level is likely to go would be a plus. Forget lewds but with high-level gestalt AND mythic you're really overloading the rocket part of rocket tag.
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>>51436594
Kind of

I essentially just got prodded into doing a revision after your course correction. It was perspective on the dissonance between what I wanted to write and what I actually wrote. Hopefully I got there? At least I'm confident that it's written better now.

>>51436616
Isekai in a world where the greatest heroes other than us are level 10 non-gestalt martials without access to PoW.

And there's a rival group of rebirths (taken from the rejected apps maybe?) that acts as our antagonists.
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>>51436668
Into the game +runners up, I mean.
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>>51436335
>He killed the Genii that abducted them, completely unsafe to leave a wizard angry with you, and didn't know what to do with the twins except take them aboard and put them to work.
What did he mean by this?
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>>51436652
Well, someone will have to teach her to dance first before that can happen, you know.
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>>51436742
Would you believe me if I told you it didn't read like that in my head?

Also is it a correct assumption that no one realized those were KKK ranks?
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Hey, I'm interested in joining that sick Wrath of the Righteous campaign everyone's spicy about, but I need to know something first... How snowflake is too snowflake for an Avowed (in this case, Celestial) backstory?

Like, let's assume I'm going for the Stolen Fury trait, where my character is stolen as part of a secret cult thing. Is it too much to say the character *was* killed by the cultist's blade, but rather than a demon ripping his soul out, Pulura shoved his soul back *in*, and in the process jumpstarted his heart as divine energy started pumping through his veins?
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>>51436616
Honestly, I'd be more likely to join if you got rid of ONE of the following:
>Gestalt
>Level 16 Start
>Mythic
I can handle two of them at a time, but having all three is just a pain to juggle around on top of "what's the point, I can do everything".
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>>51435815
Only if you benefit from his kingdom.
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>>51436848

A king should *always* be given respect, regardless if he's from a kingdom you've never heard of or even the enemy kingdom.
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>>51436668
i guess the main thing is that i think ive peaked with dierdre honestly.

like its cool to play her and all but everything ive written after her seems completely glossworthy.
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>>51436657
Alright, let's see...

CALDIA is a cheerful Wanton (Lustborn) Cambion who is an aspiring Lady Knight born into privilege but with little care for social status.
ALLANDRIA is a Scorpion Youkai who serves as Caldia's personal battle-maid who seeks to advance her lot in life and tends to bottle up her emotions until they explode.
RAREVEN is a Dwarf of noble blood born and bred for warfare, raised in a family who has historically been on the front lines against the Dreaded.
CIRRUS is a young human investigator looking to impress the megacorps with his skill as a combatant and his keen mind... trying to hide the gender-bending curse contracted from an accident with his personal research.

CHERISE is the Cat-Youkai daughter and possible heiress to Camlann's largest Nightmare Crystal Refining Company, seeking something more than a cushy job from nepotism.
FLORENCE is a humanoid construct known as a Chevalier, who embraces her race's cultural Zeitgeist that they are mankind's tombstone, and goes beyond it in her embrace of transhumanoid philosophy.
SERAPHTOR is a Justicar (Justice Born) Nephilim with a bad case of wanderlust and feeling like he doesn't belong anywhere.
OSWALD is a human multiclass clusterfuck born out in the wilderness between the Havens, and witness to the destruction of his home village, seeking to fight the dreaded in his dead brother's name.
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>>51436649
>>51436548
Why did fluffy2 extend the deadline? It's not like there are too few apps or anything!
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>>51436848
Not true, you should be in awe of neighboring kings as well.

For example, Putin is one of the strongest forces against USA hegemony, but people are still in awe and respect of him.
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>>51436856
If you don't get anything out of his kingdom then a king can thoroughly fuck himself.
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>>51436866
Putin is the USA hegemony now, or at least for the next 4-8 years.
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>>51436861
The trap got weirded out by the autism of the other applicants and backed out. Now Kon Kon either doesn't have his fetish, or has to make strange pics to accommodate the trap.
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>>51436886
What? When was this?
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>>51436870

You better back up before you get a smack up.
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>>51436898
It all started when kon kon listed his body types

And continued as speculation
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>>51436929
What body types are those?
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>>51436941
1. Trap
2. Titty Monster
3. DFC (maybe Titty Monster 2)
3. Bishie (maybe trap 2, maybe Titty Monster 3)
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>>51436963
That's a pretty broad range. How's that supposed to be specific?
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>>51436974

You'd be surprised how few people applied with a quality handsome man.
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>>51436974
No, as in, 1 trap, 1 titty monster, 1 dfc, and 1 bishie, with minimal wiggle room.

And a lot of people realized they were uninteresting girls with medium sized breasts and started trying to come up with reasons that they're better than each other. It's a really strange dance they're doing.
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>>51436998
Why did nobody else apply with a trapfox?
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>>51437001
Slot 3 is actually small/MEDIUM titty girl.
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>>51437010
I think because a lot of people see that the first trap, Ryuko, managed to check all of Kon kon's boxes without knowing those where the boxes. So they might be seeing it as a lost cause.
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>>51437010
>>51436998
Why didn't someone just apply with a shapeshifting fox? You could be anything on that list, whenever you felt like it.
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>>51437010
I tried. Probably more bishie though.
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>>51436886
I thought I saw the trap constantly saying they were going to win by default a bunch. Or was that Kon Kon trying to get another trap in?
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>>51437062
That was when there was literally no competition for the slot, so he had been de facto given the slot.
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>>51437047
Shit taste in foxboys famalam.
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>>51437076
No, I mean, it's strange to hear the trap felt weirded out and dropped out on hearing they got a slot and sounding like they were pretty happy about it.

Maybe it's me finding that weird.
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>>51437076
So someone else should step up and make a trap!
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>>51437091
It also predated the surge in desperation in the discussion thread. They stopped posting when that happened
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>>51437081
Why so mean.
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>>51436594
Could you tell me what's wrong with Losi Tala Ngawai?
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>>51437119
How do you know it's desperation and not people coming up with interesting hooks for their characters?
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>>51436859
>OSWALD is a human multiclass clusterfuck

I remember when my game group looked at his app, wondering what the point of his build is, and then slowly figured it out.
I hope the rest of his party likes having oodles of free bonus attacks, ahaha.
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>>51437175
Because it only started after Kon Kon posted the slots and people re-evaluated their prospects.
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>>51437198
No, it only started after someone suggested they all come up with hooks.

https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4479151/
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>>51437240
>https://app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4479151/
wasn't that posted right after kon kon made his slot posting?
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What not ERP or at least not focused on sexual acts games are around currently for recruiting?
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>>51437046
I was going to apply with a shota kitsune vigilante shapeshifting/genderbending into a titty monster girl. The girl would be his masked persona. After all, disguising as different gender is something like -2 penalty and kitsune have Realistic Likeness which allows for actual gender cahnge.

Sadly, life verified my plans.
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>>51437267
>>51437240
Yep, Kon Kon posted on 1/10
That one is 1/11

>>51437289
I don't think any? Closest is Sky Pirates
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>>51437289
DHB, have you ever considered making a different roll20 for your applications to escape the various stigmas pfg has attached to your name and have a better chance of being judged fairly?

This isn't heckling, it's an honest question and what I'd do in your position.
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>>51437289
None, forever.
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>>51436279
I am surprised I made team 3 considering me and my friend were such late comers.
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>>51437289
I'm thinking of doing one, but mainly only to test out my personally modified version of the Tax Exempt houserules and seeing how d20 Modern's gun rules would work in Pathfinder.

I'll drop a lfg link down in a few minutes assuming there's some more peeps interested.
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>>51437355
The last poster made team two, so yeah.
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>>51437325
I have thought about it, but personally would not particularly want to be in a game where I was judged harshly because of my homebrewing identity rather than the merit of the character. So, on a whole, yes I have thought about it but likely will not.

In the games thus far I honestly believe not being accepted did not have to do with who I am, but the character in question.
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>>51437188
I had considered getting Time sphere to get Shift Time so I could do another Channel Resolve in a turn, but since it's stolen from the next turn I wasn't sure how useful it would be except if I think it's going to be the last round of combat. I might anyways in a few levels as there's not much more I want to get out of the War sphere. You can bet I'm getting Quicken Channel ASAP though, which will make me eat my channels 3 times as quickly in an average fight.
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>>51437289
Air pirates game? Sexy pirate trope type stuff is allowed, but it's pretty explicitly fade to black for any lewds.
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Ok so I'm just learning PoW and I don't think I'll ever be able to make intelligent decisions on initiating builds as you guys do. So lets say I like a weapon group but my chosen class doesnt have any disciplines that have it as an associated. Am I better off trading them away via traits and traditions, or do these disciplines by design synergize with the class and I'm much better off by taking weapon group adaptation?
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>>51436786
Ask the GM.
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>>51437525
What weapon group? Most of the time it isn't necessary to be using a discipline weapon, like you can go RH EF GL with whatever weapons you want.
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>>51437525
It would probably be easier and more efficient to just take Weapon Group Adaptation unless there's something in a specific discipline you want. Note that many disciplines don't require the use of a discipline weapon, though it is highly recommended because of Discipline Focus. Due to WGA's wording taking it makes your chosen weapon group work for ALL of your disciplines, so if you end up taking Discipline Focus multiple times because of the increased DCs you should be able to stack the extra damage too.
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>>51437301
What the horrific goddamn fuck? What the fucking hell is wrong with you?
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>>51437325
What stigmas?
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>>51437635
I don't see why you're flipping out.
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How do I become the King of the Storm, lads?

Assume gestalt, third party allowed.
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>>51437635
>freaking out this much
>just shota and gender swap
You must be new.
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>>51437651
Does he not recognize there's something seriously wrong with him? Don't you?
What the fuck is wrong with pfg?
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>>51437684
>What the fuck is wrong with pfg?
Fucking everything, lewd games/ERP/kitstune posts/furries have infested and destroyed it.
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>>51437684
>being this much of a newfag

/tg/ has always been like this
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>>51437356
Is there really nobody interested in this?
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>>51437684
Clearly the whispers of the Great Old Ones have driven all to madness.
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>>51437753
>not the anime version of Hastur
Where do you think you are?
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>>51437753
>>51437790

The miasmatic light of that baleful star sears my skin! I feel it crawling!
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First Dragon Game just concluded, highlight was when Atolm rolled the first roll of the game and triggered his draconic essence compulsion. Laughs were had as the 16 inch dragon attempted to convince npcs that the speaker of the public forum the party was attending had stolen women's undergarments.
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>>51437820
>attempted to convince npcs that the speaker of the public forum the party was attending had stolen women's undergarments

Well, did they?
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>>51437790
>Posting inferior anime Hastur
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>>51437578
I'm a harbringer but I'd like weapons with reach so maybe spears or polearms.
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>>51437828
>>51437790
>>51437753
>͜pos̹t̠̫̠͚̻̮i̪̼n̪̠̩͙g̨̥̘̪̪̭̳͕ ̴͉̗̣͉̘t̗̱̮͇h͙̮e͙̠̭̭ ̸̳̺͈͖̬͓k̢̥̱͓͓̼̣̘i̜͙̟n͞g̨ ̱̼̲i̧͓͉n̫̫ ̬̣̥͟y̨̦͈̖e͖l̨̗̩̰̝ļ̪͉̜̭o͈̻̩̫̝̳ͅw̙ ̢̘̤̻̘t͔́ͅhṟ̕e̹̘̙̯̰͇̝e̛͉̬͚̗̗̠ ̘̲̘̟͎̜̰̀t͚įme͕̦̤̖̝s̶
͓͔̼̠̱
>̷̣̙̭̰͔̟͚ͅT̸͈̬͢͟h͓̝̜̕͜͞r̶̶̻̙é̢̼̜͉̤̯͚̦ȩ̶̴̜̞̜̞͇̱ͅ ̶̨̣̩̙̩t̟͉̻͖̬̩̼̼i̶̜͈͟͜m̦͙̤͖͎̬͜e̘͉͖͉̯s̥̪̰̩͍͇̕͜ ͔͈̭̙͔͙̖͕h̢̦̜͉͘͠i̦̫̟̤s̯̫̬̺̗̻̞̪̞͠͠ ̢̮̜̳̳͚̱̪̻͝i̛̛͚̼̤̙m͖͓͟a̧̘̲̞̣ǵ̴̤̤̙͖̖e͉͙̘̩͚̘̦͕ ̧̳͚͍̱̩͓̭̀i̮̭̥͍̞͍s͙̻̯͚͓̙̩͡ ̙͈̞̞̳̜̜͞ͅi̸̡̛̪ṋ̲̮̩̹̙̩̜̰͞v͔̺̱͓̬̠o̘̙̬k̖̙̝̕͟͡ę͙̻̼̬̻̪̳́ͅd̵̨̯̲̜̙̪͉̗̥͔͜


Ẁ̩̲̦̩̲̪̪̩͔͍̬̱͍͈̰̤H̴̦̬̟̝̰̖͖͙͙͡A̡͏͏̺̦̜̗̘̥̥͉̖͇͕̜̜̼͕͓ͅͅͅŢ̲̯̦͚͇̺̹̘̗̟̮̙̰̳͟͝͡ͅ ̵͇̞͙̭͍̳̺͇͞H̵̺̳̫͓̼̙̖̜̝̜͈̹̝̼̫̟͚̀̕͝Ą̵̣̘͔̠̻̩͔̗͎̟͜V̷̷̧̮̞̥̪͓͚̱͈Ę̣͎͔͈̗̙̗̕͘ͅ ̧̧̪̠̤̺̙̫̱̬̤͖̩̠̝̀͞Ý̡̧̠͇̤̰̰̼͚̮̜̻̼͔̞̰̟̠̠͢Ò̬̲̻̣̭̹̰̼̱̞̼̳̺̞̕͜͠Ù͖̗͚̹͍͔͙̙͚̰͔̕ͅ ̰̠͎̱͉̱̬̲̰͇̩̕͝F̵̷̡͉̺͉̫O͏̢͡͏̲͙̖̥͇̻̲̺̰̗̞O̢͏̧̡̠̗͇͓̳̱͉̰̣̬̝̜̦̯̱̘̖͢Ḷ̼̻̭̗̝̖̰̬͕̣̪̯͢Ş̴̶͏̡̯̖̯̝̣̣̮̯͇̣͉̬͖ͅͅͅ ̷̶̦͙̭͍̣̠̪̗́͜D̶̢͖̙̜̙̰̘̲̫̖͉̠̮̻͚͈̠̹͘͡O̢̕̕͏̛͖͓͚̮̭͖͇̬̜̼̯͇̼̼̠N̛̝̼̭Ȩ̨̧͏̲̺̺͚̞͍̘̲!̸̦̜̫̮̖͙̠̥̤͙̤̺͈̗̞̻͈̗?̸̢̼̠̹͓͎̯̰̰̗̹̙̮̪͎͖̝̭͘͢͝
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>>51437790
I liked how he was always wearing that yellow hoodie. Staying true to the source material!

>>51437684
Hey, it is not guro, scat, watersports, non-con, hardcore mindcontrol, weird transformations, full-on furry or whatever. I've just tried to stay true to lighthearted, rather wacky and lewd feel of that game while actually using fun class features and thinking how to incorporate it into the system and story. Me liking big boobs, shotas and genderbending was just a bonus.
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>>51437841
I'm also interested in trading out a discpline for Golden lion for more teamwork potential. Any discipline aside from Riven Hourglass that you'd think is worth the trade?
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>>51437854
>watersports, non-con, hardcore mindcontrol,
Even among perverts I'm the pervert apparently
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>>51437886
I am not kinkshaming! Just saying that it wasn't even that bad. Shotas changing into busty girls to fight crime aren't that bad, right? Right?
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>>51437886
I get the feeling non con is actually super common these parts
Mind control is also something PF enables a lot so it attracts those types too

I wish more people liked the third one but I really don't see it around
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>>51437841
>>51437876
So use a spear or pole arm. None of the disciplines you're using don't work with those weapons.

I'd say drop Cursed Razor for Golden Lion.
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>>51437967
I kind of want to do an UBER MINDRAPIST SORCERER build, but the things I hae to do for it make me a bit quesy
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>>51436786
Sick DM here again, remind yourself that you're just a level 1 gestalt. You don't start mythic in any conceivable way. That isn't to diminish anyone's story, but perhaps that sets a clearer precedent of "Don't get so snowflakey that it sounds like you're 10th level already"
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>>51437956
It gives me all sorts of thoughts

>>51437967
I'm actually DMing a lewd game right now and some how failed to get another purviewer of those tastes
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>>51437635
>being this austistic about fetishes

it's like I accidentally stepped into something awful
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>>51437744
Ah fuck it imma post the lfg post here in hopes that anybody will be interested in a non-lewd, non-ERP game so I can test out my custom houserules to make the game a lot less feat tax intensive, and to make the martial classes suck a lot less.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67758/pathfinder-the-houserule-testing-edition

Enjoy.
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>>51437974
>dropping best debuff discipline on the debuff class with exclusive feat support for cursing

Might as well go crimson countess if you don't want to focus on debuffing
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>>51437992
tell me about this lewd game
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>>51438013
I usually do. Seems like it might be the best for a PoW noob as well.
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>>51437854
>trying hard to justify your deviance
What the fuck.
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>>51437826
We never found out. However, the people found him guilty and he sentenced himself to continue speaking.
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>>51437967
>>51437984
Don't kitsune make the best mind control sorcerers?
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>>51438034
Pretty much, yes.
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>>51438005
Is the time slot set in stone?
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>>51437967

Had an efreeti once whose schtick was supposed to be mind-raping his way into having power over a bunch of different noble bloodlines, but honestly, that got pretty old pretty quick.
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>>51438052
D'oh, forgot to mention that on the lfg. It's looking to be Feb. 15th at 12pm EST for the first session, with two weeks from now being the deadline for chargen.
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>>51438021
pbp on discord, doesn't actually use pathfinder, custom system and setting. Main kink is corruption and forced transformation. Think Dark Souls mixed with CoC. Things are pretty slow moving since it's kind of a constant trickle of posting when we get around to it, but the world is neat and there's cute blowjobs between troll butchering.
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Just go outside and make some friends, that's all it takes.
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>>51438104
12PM EST? No other time slots, really? Not in the morning EST, or the evening EST?
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>>51437974
I am a little bit confused here. So basically as long as the maneuver does not explicitly state that you need to use X weapon then you may use any weapon with it? Then what's the point of the associated weapons?
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>>51438005
>Power Attack, Precise Shot, Deadly Aim, and Combat Expertise are all action types that anyone with BaB ≥1 can do, just like charging or fighting defensively. Ignore any prerequisites involving these feats or the stat requirements of these feats (such as Intelligence 13 for Combat Expertise or Strength 13 for Power Attack).

>Finesse: All light weapons and weapons with the finesse special feature may be used to attack adding either Strength or Dexterity to the attack roll or damage roll. A player may use their Dexterity in place of their Strength when calculating their CMB. Ignore all prerequisites requiring Agile Maneuvers.

>no Path of War

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So why do I want to bother with Strength again? Just a tiny bit of extra damage?

I mean, you're allowing custom weapons so everyone can make a stupid strong custom finesse weapon, right?
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>>51438239
Strength has a maximum damage output roughly double that of dexterity due to support for strength self buffing being far better than that of dexterity.

I'm looking at that Orc Bloodline.
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>>51438211
Well, I could try 7-8pm EST, as I get home from the gym every other week at that time on Wednesdays, and 10am's the absolute earliest my NEET ass can wake up. I'm open to timeslot suggestions, with the exception being that I can't do Saturday at all (DMing another game on that day.)

>>51438239
I kinda wanted to try spheres of might along with the fighter rework to see how it'd do, with Path of War being the second option if that somehow isn't enough.
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How would you advertise a gladiator in Golarion, /pfg/?

I'm thinking about a character background, and wondering how an aasimar would have been booked--particularly since he was supposed to be part of a team with a tiefling.
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>>51438213
Using a discipline weapon adds +2 to the DC of your maneuvers. Other than that the only time you need to use a discipline weapon is when specified, such as range for Solar Wind and Tempest Gale, piecing/pole arms for Piercing Thunder, shields for Iron Tortoise, and unarmed for Broken Blade.
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>>51438270
"HEAVEN OR HELL, LET'S ROCK!"
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>>51438122
Oh I'm not that big a fan of corruption and forced transformation

Rip it was worth a try
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>>51438293
oh well
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>>51438239
Because the only workhorse feat you really *need* for Strength is Power Attack, and it works better with two-handed weapons. You only ever add your Dex once, by contrast.

Also, because Dex builds still need more feats (Deadly Agility or Slashing Grace, at the very least), so a Strength-based build still gets more freedom to try different strategies and add more tricks to its toolbox (Master Craftsman, Advanced Weapon/Armor Training, Eldritch Heritage, etc.).

TWF *might* make Dex pull out ahead, but boosting Strength as high as possible--such as through items, Orc or Abyssal bloodline, Dragon Disciple, and rage--is going to be a much simpler way to keep pace in terms of damage.

One neat trick on that note is to, as a barbarian/bloodrager, get both furious and courageous on your weapon--when you enter rage, it boosts your weapon's enhancement bonus by 2, and courageous adds half your weapon's enhancement bonus to any morale bonuses you have (which covers rage, and boosts your Strength even higher). Of course, that might have been hit with the Errata scythe.
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>>51437986
A common problem in these applications as we've seen from the various game listings.

>After decades of leading the war effort...
>BUT YOU'RE LEVEL 3
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>>51437651
>>51437680
>>51437734
>>51437753
>>51437790
>>51437817
>>51437828
>>51437852
>>51437854
>>51437886
>>51437956
>>51437967
>>51437984
>>51437992
>>51437995
>>51438034
Did you forget to take your meds? Do your wranglers know you're loose?
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>>51438350
I did, actually, ran out and can't get to the pharmacy until Monday. Luckily I'm safe and my psych knows about it, so I'll just have to take care until then.
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>>51438350
Yes and they also know we're having fun without your permission
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>>51437820
Got a pastebin or record of what was actually said? Enraged yapping sounds like it'd be a lot of fun to read.
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>>51438346
Personally I think it blue balls me as a DM if my players immediately start off in high status. Not to say "your character can't be a minor noble" or someshit, but more like "I've been a part of a hundred secret raids" and still be level 1. Like shit, give ME the chance to give your character that big pay off instead of me having to somehow present something bigger than what the rest of their life was up to now.
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>>51438376
>>51438378
Go back to the institution, you fucks.
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>>51438324
But you're giving everyone Dex to attack and damage for free.
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>>51438324
>courageous adds half your weapon's enhancement bonus to any morale bonuses you have (which covers rage, and boosts your Strength even higher). Of course, that might have been hit with the Errata scythe.

Long been smacked. It's only meant to apply to morale vs. fear.
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>>51438394
Who says we left?
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>>51438400
Seriously? Lemme reread that...
Well, that isn't in the normal feat tax rules. The house-rules in >>51438239 seem like they had a little less thought put into them.
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>>51437986
>>51436786
Wrath of the Righteous game? I must ask, is it ERP?

>>51436616
God's champions against the world wound sounds fantastic. Each player chooses a god.
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>>51438412
Hmmm...
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>>51438260
Between the reworked fighter, barbarian, monk, and rogue, which one do you want to see playtested MOST?
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>>51438409
Still has the old version on d20pfsrd, at least. And good thing, too, that's one of my favorite things in my current game.
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>>51438425
It's titled Wrath of the Raunchy, so what do you think?
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>>51438440
If Hanako is Nethys, who are the other Katawa girls?
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>>51438382

I got a whole session transcript.

Not a whole lot here. but hey its session zero pretty much.

http://pastebin.com/eqpJntbv
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>>51438449
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1gg#v5748eaic9tf0
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>>51438394
Nah, we found the right meds, I've learned to keep my stress under control and communicate. It was helpful but once you're ready to leave you should leave. You should think about checking yourself in, it's pretty helpful when you've got anger issues.
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>>51438350
The pills can't save me when the stars are right, anon. Never mind that I've never been prescribed any.
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>>51438445
Well, Fighter/Barbarian are Gestalted in this, and honestly? I'd love to see all three be playtested, but Fighter the most because i'm a pretty big fan of people with swords in fantasy games/RPGs whom just wreck face.

>>51438422
The idea wasn't really to be balanced, but I changed up the Weapon Focus tree because of how just... Kinda taxy that entire tree felt, and because I had been reading some old AD&D 2e material and thought "Well, what would happen if I let the Fighter get a damage boost from a feat...", so honestly I think these rules let a person choose whether or not they wanna go for STR or DEX.

Plus with how the skills got reworked to where you can choose your ability score for some of 'em, I can imagine some people might like playing a STR focused dude.
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>>51438392
>>51438346
>>51437986
Just to clarify, does "found out they're special and this is their first day on the front lines to prove it to everyone else" count as being too snowflake-y?
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>>51438270
His handlers gave him either an outfit with lots of hot colors and streamers to look like it was on fire, to bring to mind something like pic related.

Or just lit part of his costume (like a pair of fake wings) on fire, if he wasn't expected/supposed to survive.
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>>51438455
>It's titled Wrath of the Raunchy, so what do you think?
Ah, I did not realize it was that one. I am sorry.
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>>51438425
Yes but I don't put a focus on it. It's like it's own tool rather than "OH NOOOO THE BALOR IS A MASSIVE PUNCH GIRL WHO WANTS TO FEMDOM THE PARTY" sorta shittery.
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>>51438476
Right, because Paizo can come and rewrite our character sheets when they add the next patch.

Oh, wait.
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>>51438460
Emi is Kurgess.
Rin is Desna.
Lilly is... Dunno.
Shizune is Iomedae.
Kenji is Asmodeus.
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>>51438525
Generally I don't wish to partake in ERP more than fade to black when approriate for a character's arc. Would you be alright in a party member doing that?
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>>51438549
You can certainly still apply, sure!
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>>51438500
Define "special". Like "parents were secretly important" special? Because that's okay, but more than that's pushing it.
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>>51438548
Lilly...who's the most refined god/goddess? Shelyn, possibly? Maybe Sarenrae?
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>>51438473

Freyda is 8 feet tall? Can you be 8 feet tall and still be medium sized?
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>>51438568
Special as in "I am the child of destiny, foretold by the old gypsy woman's prophecy to vanquish the terrible evil blighting the very land we live upon and usher in a new era of peace and prosperity for a millennium to come."
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>>51438586
I'd say Shelyn
>>51438589
Medium is 4'-8'
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>>51438593
GRIFFASU!
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>>51438568
"Parents might have been the king and/or queen and you're secretly the prince/princess"?
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>>51438498
What races can we use?

Where is in Golarion is this game gonna take place?
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>>51438611
No real limit to what races you can use, but i'd prefer if they were the base ones.

As for where in Golarion the game is going to happen? Probably looking to be with whatever the party can agree on, or failing that, I can grab an adventure path or something and see about working with that, or just straight up use the old dartboard method of picking a location.
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>>51438610
The "might have been" is what makes it acceptable. It'd be borderline if it was confirmed in the backstory, but even then you could probably save it if part of your character is that they went unacknowledged and had to grow up as a peasant--then their arc could be about trying to earn back their parents' acknowledgement.
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>>51438548
Okay, but who's best girl?
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>>51438500
PM me and we can hash it out better on roll20 or IRC (Rizon server), how about that
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>>51438666
Hanako
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>>51438608
[muffled My Brother playing in the distance]
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>>51438629
>the base ones

The base ones being...? What, core races? Core + featured?
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>>51438684
Yeah more or less.
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>>51438666
Isn't it obvious? Misha is Rovagug
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>>51438666
I rate 'em
1/2) Lilly/Emi
3) Hanako
4) Rin
5) Shizune
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>>51438473

So going off of the evidence here, Lameeka, the hips for days kobold, when put in the air against her will; is a boob seeking missile.
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>>51436153
Why are her tears flowing horizontally?
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>>51438689
WAHAHA
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>>51438548
And Hisao is Zon-Kuthon.
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>>51438719
because animu.
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>>51438684
>>51438687
>no kitsune

Is Bloodforge: Infusions allowed?

Could I please be a youkai zenko kitsune? Pretty please?
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>>51438719
>>51438728
Lack of a proper budget, actually. RWBY V1 was reeeeeeeeally underfunded.
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>>51438708
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>>51438729
I haven't read Bloodforge actually, so... Eh. Gimme until tomorrow to glance over it and i'll update the listing on whether Bloodforge is allowed.

Although I reaaaaaally kinda don't want to allow Kitsune either way.
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>>51438752
Being made in fucking Poser certainly didn't help.
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>>51438777
>Although I reaaaaaally kinda don't want to allow Kitsune either way.
Not even an aasimar with fox/ears tail?

Or dog ears/tail?

Or wolf ears/tail?

Or cat ears/tail?
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>>51438795
Not even.
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>>51438034
While I know I'm very late to the punch: Yes, I know. That and the implications behind enchantment in general is a bit of a deterrent, even if the idea of making my foes into my meat-puppets is hilarious.

Why the FUCK were kitsune given that FCB for sorcerers, WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY.
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>>51438809
>no kemonomimi

Why?
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>>51438833
Maybe because people who apply as half-furries are still half as cancerous?
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>>51438777
Also actually to continue on this after a quick glance at Bloodforge I think it's more suited as tools for a DM to use, with some of the Half-X races (Half-Goblinoids really) being neat, the rest seem kinda... "Oh god what even are these"/Really, REALLY setting dependent or snowflake-ish.

>>51438833
Because while there's a time and a place for degeneracy, this game is not one of those times nor places.
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>>51438833
Mostly because you keep shitposting about it.
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>>51438833
Because proper kitsunes are better, duh.
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>>51438833
It's a good way to filter out all the shithawks. Not saying that everyone that plays a kitsune or some derivative is a shithawk, just that very nearly all of them are.
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>>51438809
Can I be a Small aasimar/tiefling/skinwalker?
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>>51438916
Can I get a pitch on the character concept?
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>>51438902
Can confirm firsthand, kitsune tend to be the harbingers of shit.
t. player who tried playing one
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>>51438893
But that's wrong you fucking retard.

Kemonomimi are how Kitsune were in their actual fucking lore, and are thus the only proper way to show a Kitsune's humanoid form. Paizo's furfaggotry is wrong to the mythology.
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>>51438752
That's from Volume 2. They were having an anime moment.
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1) There are non-kitsune shit players.
2) There are non-shit player kitsune.
3) But a large fraction of kitsune are shit players.
4) And a large fraction of shit players are kitsune.

Therefore a kitsune ban is not unjustified.
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>>51438937
Das racist man
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>>51438941
Yes.

Personally I wouldn't ban them, but I understand people who do, especially since they don't really have a unique niche.

I'd also really like to see more people play Coytl/Huli Jing, it always seems like they get left out.
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How do I pounce in Spheres of Might?

What talents do I have to take?
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>>51438966
>tfw no kumiho
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>>51438966
Aren't huli jing even more magical realm than regular kitsune?
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>>51438350
Hey, shut the fuck up whoever's down the the hallway. It's psych ward, not shriek ward.
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>>51438986
Iirc, not really - kitsune and kumiho were more openly sexual. I may be misremembering some things, and I may have forgotten a few bits of actual history around them, but I definitely remember some kitsune and even a few kumiho stories being lewder.
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>>51438986
The problem as I see it is that kitsune are ez mode for Magical Realm. You don't have to put any effort in, don't have to think about it, just write 'kitsune' on your sheet and enjoy the barrage of dicks. The other sub races alleviate the problem by being less well known. Huli Jing help further by being Akashic, so you need to invest time and effort, which are inversely proportional to your likelihood of being a shit player.
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These recent games are truly a renaissance of the bountiful bust.

i hope more ladies join this sister hood of back breaking bosoms.
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>>51438996
>>51439010
Huli jing get bonuses for fucking people.
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>>51439028
...okay, somehow missed that. Never mind on the Huli Jing.
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>>51438982
From what i'm glancing over in the current previews, no way to pounce with it.
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>>51438795
Why are you so fucking annoying? Do you lack self-awareness?
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Does anyone play a game where they are the only humans?
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>>51439073
My current group is
Half-elf
Seascarred Skinwalker
Oread
Gillman
Human
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>>51439058
>being this autistic about fox ears
>calls other people annoying
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>>51439073
No, but I did once play as the only giant-blooded guy in an entire country that was supposed to be primarily giant-blooded folk. Everybody else were elves, ratfolk, kitsune, and That Guy convinced the GM to let him play a tiger.
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>>51439096
The real autists are the ones pushing it like their lives depend on playing a fox/cat/whatever the fuck-eared anime girl.
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>>51438937
By this logic you should just ban all female characters.
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Exterminatus on pfg when?
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>>51439107
The percentage of female shit players isn't much higher than the baseline, if it all. By this train of thought we should just ban all players. Seems appropriate.
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>>51439120
>ban all /pfg/ players

Sounds about right.
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>>51439115
If it's this bad in the morning I'll post grimoire. I'm catching up on CW shows.
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>>51439129
>only banning a tiny subset of players
>not banning ALL of them

You're just asking for That Guys.
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>>51439154
Can you post Legendary Villains: Vigilantes; Intrigue Archetypes; and Asian Archetypes: Martial instead? I'd really love to see the rest of Jolly's work.
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>>51439177
Legendary Villains is up on the trove.
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>>51439206
But the other two definitely aren't.
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>>51438005
Why are you acting as if Spheres of Might progression is as valuable as casting?

We have so few Spheres of Might right now that it's not really that good.
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>>51439256
Because Spheres of Power is in use instead of Vancian magic, so the power level of casters is down by a fair bit, plus I didnt really want to faff around with Path of War since while i've used Tome of Battle in 3.5e, I haven't had a chance to read over Path of War comprehensively. And I still really do wanna see how the changes I did (found in the case of Fighter) to the 1pp Martials in terms of in-combat and out-of-combat effectiveness.

Plus I think last thread Jolly was talking about there being another preview for Spheres of Might soon, so, that stuff is kinda in prep of it.
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>>51439256
Someone's got to playtest them, don't they?
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>>51439305
Depends. Do you allow Magical Knack to work with spherecasting for example?
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>>51439305
Right now we're working on a proper playtest with 5 classes (Striker/Armiger/Blacksmith/Champion/Scholar) and 10 Spheres (Lancer, Boxing, Wrestling, Guardian, Dueling, Fencing, Gladiator, Athletics).

As far as I'm aware it'll be an open playtest, so yay on that. That's why we didn't give another preview recently, we've been prepping that and discussing what to include.

The sphere list is subject to change, but the class list is probably finalized for this playtest.
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>>51439322
"Benefit: Pick a class when you gain this trait—your caster level in that class gains a +2 trait bonus as long as this bonus doesn't raise your caster level above your current Hit Dice."

Huh. What a weird feat. Seems like it really shouldn't work even in normal casting..

>>51439348
Ooh, when's the ETA on that open playtest? Still gonna be three weeks until that game I posted starts, with two weeks being the limit for people to get their characters in, so... Glad to know I future-proofed the full SoM progression stuff for the martial touchups I did! Really eager to see how it plays out in the game!
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>>51439371
Ideally in a day or two, although don't expect me to do any work on Sunday. I've been bugging Adam about it, we're also thinking of including some of the feats, and I might include one of the 'house rules' I'm trying to implement as a proper rule for this as a sidebar.

I'm going to try to push it through since I'm officially done on LK 2, which means my schedule opened up a bit, as it will even more post draggo book.
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>No mention of the upcoming Azlant adventure

For shame, everyone!

Anyway, who is excited?
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>>51439387
Oh god now you've REALLY gone and hyped me up for this! And might I ask what that 'house rule' is?
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>>51439391
The what?
That must have been something that wasn't brought up or advertised here.
And I expect that it'll be better for it.
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>>51439371
the idea with it is for Paladins and Rangers and such to take it
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>>51436616
Cleansing Bluetspur of mind flayers.
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>>51439408
Ah, right, forgot that they don't get full caster level. Makes sense. In that case, i'm not sure if I should allow it to be gotten under spherecasting, then.
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>>51439408
Or for if you're taking a dip in something else.
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>>51439393
Sure, it's something I've been batting around:

Ehn's kick ass house rule: Whenever you dedicate your martial focus to a sphere, it's always dedicated regardless of if you expend focus or not.

This means if you blow your focus to challenge someone with guardian sphere, you're still treated as though you were dedicated to that sphere for anything that gives you a benefit for dedication.

>>51438982
The idea with Spheres of Might is that you don't really NEED to pounce, which is what we're looking at. We're working to split up attack action/move action/swift into something better, rather than full attack/swift.

>>51439177
Just a note here, only the vigilante archetypes in those are mine (and the sample character obv), those are books from a lot of different authors.
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>>51439424
It definitely wasn't intended to work for spherecasting, but in my opinion, partial caster level progression was a mistake, so it's good for the game to have a trait like that.
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>>51439437
That houserule sounds... Actually pretty amazing. I'll be sure to try it even if it doesnt make it into the playtest, at least. Because if anything, it at least deserves SOME use to see how well it fares in gameplay.

That and imo considering the system you really can't have a martial be considered "Overpowered" compared to some of the shenanigans vancian casters can get up to.
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>>51439439
>partial caster level progression was a mistake

Seconding.

>>51439437
It just struck me why BAB's usage in SoM feels completely at odds with CL usage in SoP (which itself is still pretty flawed):

You attack with BAB. You don't attack with CL... you "attack" with whatever primary attribute is driving your saving throws. CL is just used for the "must be this tall to ride" of SR and for scaling *after* the attack has succeeded.
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>>51439458
We actually have a feat that does something similar, it treats you as always dedicated to X sphere regardless.

The reason for this is that I feel such a feat would be a must have, and Rule 4 of Jolly's rules of design state that "If a choice is so obvious to a player that it becomes required for every build INFUSION DISCOVERY, it should be a core part of the class/system/archetype/etc".

I have several design rules like this that I always follow, but number 1 is always "I will only write content I would want to use myself." This keeps me from writing garbage because I don't want to play with garbage.

>>51439461
We're doing our best to keep mid/low BAB types viable...ish, but being honest, low BAB types that aren't spheres classes shouldn't be dealing with SoM.
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>>51439483
>low BAB types that aren't spheres classes shouldn't be dealing with SoM.

That's kind of silly when you've got at the very least an entire sphere (Athletics) only secondarily related to combat.
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>>51439490
That won't be the only sphere that deals with that, and we may include feats that allow you to be treated as a mid/high BAB for a specific sphere, I just more meant on the combat side of things.
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Did pfg finally manage to chase Gareth out?
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>>51439483
Kinda the reason i'm doing that whole houserule test game thing; Tons of feats in pathfinder are designed as basically either "Must haves" or "Get this or you will never be good and oh it's merely only a +1 bonus", which is why I changed up Precise Shot, Power Attack, Weapon Focus/Specialization/Their greater versions, and the maneuver feats to scale/made some of them free:

It's so that even if it's ABSOLUTELY needed to be good, it's still good by midgame and even lategame, and scaling it's bonuses by BAB makes the feats even more attractive for martials to nab instead of treating it like just another tax so they can hit something in combat while the wizard is busy nuking the BBEG's home country.

And of course, the fact the various feat trees in that doc I posted along with the chargen rules auto-unlock as you progress up their requirements is a neat concept and makes it just a matter of allowing for doing tons of neat stuff in and out of combat without having to dedicate a "Build" to it.
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>>51439461
>tfw there will never be a Spheres 2.0 with a Spell Attack Bonus that you roll against 11 + appropriate save
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>>51439514
We're doing our best to avoid MUST HAVES, but we want to include a lot of things that'll make you agonize over your choices. Boxer/Open Hand should be as viable as Shield/Lancer which should be as viable as Acrobatics/Trickster.
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>>51439494
I never noticed that Sacriers had thorns on their belts. Makes sense considering they're desciples of the goddess of pain
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>>51439371
So is that a yes or no to Magical Knack with sphereacsting?

Better question, could we do a level 4 start, pretty please? I like having that extra stat bump to plan around, makes things cleaner.
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>>51439371
Your Power Attack bonus rule is stupid.

It should be +50% for two-handers, not 100%.

You know, just like in core Power Attack?
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How do I make a PC who is a for-real no-kidding princess? Minimum level doesn't matter, I'm just curious about if it's possible.
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>>51439177
>Asian Archetypes: Martial
Especially this. I keep hearing about the Mercurial Duelist but have no idea wtf it's about since the playtest document it was in isn't open anymore.
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>>51439528
Yeah, I saw a lot of that even in the preview stuff; That sorta stuff is, imo, really refreshing to see. Make the player long for having chosen different stuff, but don't make them regret it because they fell into the beginner trap hole of doom #565767342341 by choosing one feat instead of another feat. It adds replayability beyond the obvious bit of replayability that comes with tabletop games.

>>51439544
Nay to Magical Knack with Spherecasting, and eh, the game will be using the Fast XP track, so it won't take toooooo long to get to level 4. Maybe note down which stat's gonna get the stat bump come level 4, imo. Always good to at least plan two levels ahead on whatcha wanna do for your character anyways.

>>51439553
Well it's a sorta melding of 3.5e Power Attack (In that there's no cap to how much attack bonus you can blow for damage) and PF Power Attack in that it's +2 damage for every -1 to your attack roll (And that bonus damage scales by BAB too.), and with how weapon finesse is free, and how dex to damage can be a choice when wielding ranged weapons/finesse weapons, I wanted to add in a benefit for STR users using big twohanded swords, so hence why there's the +100% damage boost for twohanding a twohander instead of +50%.
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>>51439578
it's another iaijutsu thing
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>>51439584
>I wanted to add in a benefit for STR users using big twohanded swords, so hence why there's the +100% damage boost for twohanding a twohander instead of +50%.

But that doesn't matter, because you can use an estoc or elven branched spear for two-handed Dexiness anyway.

Drop it back to +50% for two-handers.

And are you seriously expecting people to come up with backstories when you haven't even said what kind of campaign this is? There's no fucking way anyone can come up with a decent backstory like that.
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>>51435399
Please do
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>>51439576
Shit it can be done at level one if you ask your DM.
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>>51439576
Minimum level 1.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/social-traits/princess-female
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>>51439576
Have it in her backstory that she's the daughter of a king or queen.

That's it.

Anything else just requires some extra thought as to why someone from such a high station would end up in her situation. More than likely, you should make her something like the third-to-seventh daughter of the monarch in question, so that she's not the heir to the throne.
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Do the DSP people still post in these threads?
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>>51439584

>Slayer: Gestalt with Hunter but replace the spellcasting with Medium Sphere Casting. Bonus feat every 3rd level, plus the first level gets a bonus feat. Good hunting. Your sneak attack dice progress as Rogue/UC Rogue, but are d6s instead. (Please god use this in place of Ranger jesus christ.)

This would seem to be the most powerful class on your list.

Full BAB, 6 base skill points, full sneak attack progression, medium spherecasting, an animal companion that shares teamwork feats (e.g. Pack Flanking and Outflank for sneak attack), and an absurd amount of bonus feats collectively create a mighty strong package.
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>>51439626
Forrest does, but for her own stuff instead of for DSP.
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>>51439641
Good that she does? How about Gareth?
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>>51439606
Maybe +50% if using DEX, +100% if using STR?

And as for the campaign it's going to be, again, it's probably going to be either an Adventure Path to see how the mechanical changes work in that, or it'll be maybe a generic "Save the world from evil" campaign, not sure, it's almost 4am.

>>51439627
Well, Fighter's gotten a potent reworking as well, being given 6 base skill points, a heck of a lot of bonus stuff on top of full SoM progression, and with how the feat auto-progression is, they can become INCREDIBLY versatile, along with a buffed up, auto-gestalted with UC Barbarian with an amped up Rage ability.

UC Rogue also got their sneak attack dice buffed to d8s instead of d6s, full BAB progression, and bonus feats, too, along with gestalting it with Swashbuckler with slightly-less assy Swashbuckler weapons guff (Finesse and Light weapons instead of just the rapier)

UC Monk got some less MADness going on along with some bonus feats, so, eh, they have that going for them.

I did all I could for Cavalier/Samurai, so, not sure how much more I can salvage out of that trainwreck.

Although I might bump Slayer's casting down to Low, not sure yet.
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>>51439651
Gareth kept getting triggered by shitposters and blinkings, so he left.
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Can stances be swapped out at certain levels in the same way Maneuvers can?
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>>51439655
Is this gonna be a long campaign or a short game?

Because if it's going to be short, you can just run one of the 32-page modules, eh?
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Reminder that we already have a new thread
>>51435842
>>51435842
>>51435842
>>51435842
>>51435842
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>>51439683
Eh, maybe. Still want an opinion on what should be run, though.
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>>51439681
Please, /please/ try reading.
>Unlike with maneuvers, the [class] cannot learn a new stance at higher levels in place of one he already knows.
Every class has this in their stances class feature.
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>>51439710
thanks
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>Posted game on roll20 to get more applications since I don't want to play favorites
>Friends expect me to choose them anyways
>Some of the random applications are a lot more interesting than their concepts
I think the meaning of the word "application" is lost on some people.
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>>51439703
Reign of Winter! Reign of Winter! It's a reeeeeeally cool adventure.
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>>51439764
Now's the time where you post that link here as well.
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>>51439766
Hah, punny. Maybe i'll do it, but i'll have to read over it when I wake up later today, so... Eh, post it as a recommendation on the lfg thing so other peeps can say yes to it
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>>51439764
The earlier you make it clear to your friends you won't play favourites, the sooner you have a chance of getting them into gear with no hard feelings.
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>>51439781
I have before a few times, and since apps are closing next Saturday I'm not really fishing for more, I was just musing about the surprising quality of some of the applications.

I /think/ some of the apps to it might be from here, not sure.
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So now that there are a few applications who are your top three sky pirates?
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Is there a way to use two stances at the same time?
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>>51440208
Level 20 warlord.
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>>51437130
>Losi Tala Ngawai
It's a pretty good story, if simple. The only real issue I have is lack of a good reason to go piratein' and murderin' and stealin' as opposed to joining the navy or something. There's no push that would send him over the edge to simply dropping his stuff and leaving - what was that trigger? Did someone call him a bad name or something?

From a memeing perspective, there's not much meme potential that I can see off the bat - he's pretty much a "goodie two shoes naive person trying to pretend to be a pirate" is the vibe I'm getting, but there's just not as much to grab. Exaggerating a couple of personality points and eludicating on them in your bulletpoints might help.
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>>51439939
you say that, but most apps are garbage
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>>51442549
Rude!
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