/tg/, do you hold any similar sentiments?

>>45005485
Reposting your post as a screencap doesn't make it any less of a repost.

>>45005485
No

>>45005485
no

i dont want later generations to have to go through what i did.

talk to somebody that suffered through the satanic panic they dont wish that on anybody

>>45005485
I don't give a sincere flying fuck what you or anyone else does with their free time. I have already stepped out of "teh hardcorez" simply cause the pedantry never changes and all I wanted was to have fun playing my games.

So, if "normies" want to join something nerdy and be "teh hardcorez" let them. the lifestyle will push them out like white blood cells get rid of viruses on the human body.

>>45005485
"Only those born as fa/tg/uys are allowed to REEEEEEEALLY do the things I do! What? le hot girl is interested into something I like? She must be a faker gamer gurl then! Probably doesn't even know that it's called a die, not dice!"

>>45005646
I like to use Die as a singular and Dies as the plural.

Remember: Don't reply to shitposters and trolls.

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>>45005485
Isn't the other thread still up?

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>>45005485
Since there isn't any agreed upon point at which someone goes from being a casual gamer/disinterested to being a full gamer or a true gamer or whatever the term you use is, it seems like a very subjective determination that each group would make based on their own experience.
Gaming isn't something like STEM, or a job, there isn't any real accreditation besides actually spending time playing games. If someone plays games for enjoyment of some kind they are a gamer, if someone doesn't play games, or just spends their time talking about games but not participating, they are not a gamer. Being socially outcast doesn't make a person a gamer, and is not a necessary component of enjoying games, though it does tend to lead people towards traditional games, vidya, ect. The only thing being a Reeefaggot does it make it even less likely that other people will be interested in interacting with you.
The only thing being a social outcast means is that you are either unpalatable to be around, or you've simply been dealt a shit hand by life and you'll have to deal with it somehow.
I'd pose this question to anyone who thinks that it is. Why exactly would anyone think that an objectively harmful and unpleasant experience be some kind of accreditation for social acceptance?

>>45005485
I agree with the last sentence wholeheartedly.

But it applies equally to the neckbeards. It's a hobby, not some kind of trophy.

>>45005485
No. Only thing remotely similar is a complete ban on blood relatives or romantic partners and a ban on people with children.

As long as they are interested in playing and willing to cooperate, I welcome anybody. Only people I don't really like in my group is people who really don't try to understand the game they are playing ("LOL this is for nerds", "whatever man, this game is silly anyway") and elitist veterans who think they are hot shit.

>>45005783
>If someone plays games for enjoyment of some kind they are a gamer

TEE HEE IM SUCH A NERD I PLAY CANDY CRUSH AND ANGRY BIRDS

try getting your opinions from somewhere that doesn't unironically talk about the need to make gaming less "white male oriented" you parasitic cuck

>>45005541
>talk to somebody that suffered through the satanic panic they dont wish that on anybody

at least back then there wasn't any "diversity" and liberal propaganda

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>>45005958

>>45005485
No, that's bullshit. There's only one qualification to being a gamer - you enjoy playing games. It doesn't matter when you learned, or what hardships you faced - I will gladly accept anyone who sits down at my table plays some games with me, and says "that's fun, let's do it again" as a gamer. Who the hell are you to tell them they're not?

>>45005958
Fucking hipsters. Don't you have some ironic mustaches to grow?

>>45005965
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left

Seriously, man, you dumb.

>>45005485
Sorta normie here, honestly this is what scares me away from the idea of tabletop games. I always imagine that one guy that's super hard core into it that will give me shit every step of the way because I look like someone that used to beat the shit out of him.

>>45005891
>a ban on people with children

Wait, what?

>>45006043
Try board games first. Board gaming groups tend to be a lot larger, so there's no real concentration of those assholes, and if you meet one? You just play with someone else.

>>45006051
>Wait, what?
It fucks with scheduling and energy levels like CRAZY. People with kids will - naturally - need to drop a fuckton of time and energy on their offspring. That's perfectly understandable and I'd do the same, but it's just not okay to have the same guy cancel five weeks in a row because something came up or fall asleep because he's just that drained.
>>45006043
Is bullying really that much of an issue in bad places? I used to be huge bros with the "jocks", though it always pained me they didn't share my interests.

>>45006164
>Is bullying really that much of an issue in bad places?
I dunno, I was being more humorous about it, and never beat the shit out of anyone. More thinking along the lines of a guy that was teased a lot for more than just enjoying traditional games, but somehow attributed it to them, and just being a cunter. I've never personally tried anything along those lines but I've heard a solid grip of horror stories of types like that.

>>45006126
I'll definitely look into it, honestly have no idea where I'd start in any of this though so prolly will need to google. My idea of board games is like monopoly or chess or something lol.

It's just silly. Geek culture is mainstream now. Are you going to embrace that and have fun? Or will you waste time getting angry at cool people for liking what you like?

>>45005485
What is up with this flood of /r9k/ frogposters since December?

>>45005485
>muh nerd cred
I'm perfectly happy with not attaching myself to a label.

>>45006196
I'd say it's the cold, but they don't go outside.

>>45005485
No, also fuck off back to /r9k/, /pol/, /a/ or /v/, wherever you cancerous ass comes from.

>>45006164
Bullying can be surprisingly damaging and a lot of people can hold onto that grudge for a long time and project it onto others.

>>45006196
>flood
>implying it's not coming from within

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>>45006273
>hating /a/
I bet you are a facebook-loving ponyfag.

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>>45005958
As a matter of fact, I am directly opposed to forced inclusivity, but I guess I must be some brand of SJW because we disagree on something that you don't even really elucidate.
If you think you have an accurate way to better define what is and is not a gamer, please provide it, assuming of course that you actually do.

Oh boy all the mad millennials in this thread. Hey don't you have some iphone to be using?

>>45006325
Damn all the truth in that post though

>>45006648
Sorry, what?

>>45005485
I want to end the fed and smash the control that a few rich jews have on media, law, banks, and politics.

Also I'd like to make it so you can only vote if you're married and are raising or have raised at least 1 kid with your spouse. That way our voters will look for the future.

>>45006648
You forgot to take your dementia pills again, gramps.

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>>45006377

>>45006904
>letting the kind of people who are most suspectible to "think of the chillumns" propaganda vote
>letting women vote

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>>45006192
Were you behind this?

>>45006923
But I want to think of the chillumns (in a non-lewd manner).

And women are ok voters if they are married. It's only the single ones that love immigration and welfare.

>>45006926
There is literally nothing wrong with being a normie.

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I want /pol/ to leave.

>>45006325
Wait what.

I'm a pedo but I don't actually DO any pedo stuff on /tg/, I mostly do that on other websites that don't ban you for pedo stuff.
Where am I meant to be pedoing? Who needs pedoing?

>>45006964
Shit yes, something I can do! I can freak out /pol/ by being pedo.

>>45006964
I want somebody to shoot a porn where a cucked white man fights with the black man, both using their dicks as sword, while the MILF does worried faces in the background.

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>>45005485
>being mad at normies who want to join in on traditionally nerdy hobbies
Sore winners are the worst. We dealt with the bullshit we got in days past, and now that all those assholes are miserable and working in wal-mart, we've taught their children what an actually enjoyable hobby looks like and they have to watch in defeated silence as they know we've beaten them in the long game.

I don't know what you fags are complaining about.

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>>45006957
>>45006964
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>45006993
Really?

I mean I was gonna shoot a porn of a 14 year old redhead masturbating with one of those massage wands but ok, I'll do that instead.

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>>45007012
EEEEED LEADER REPORTING IN

Sorry, my audio system crashed.

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>>45005958
Bruh
.
.
Why do you care?

>>45006993
If the white guy doesn't look like Errol Flynn and there's no witty banter between them it's just not worth it.

>>45005958
I get that this is a bait post but I can't figure out whether it's meant to be baiting normies, anti-normies, sjws or anti-sjws.

>>45007051
People with nothing important in their lives will cling all the more fiercely to useless things, imagining them to be more than what they are.

>>45007067
Yes.

>>45006993
Only if the white guy loses and then gets fucked in the ass. Actually i'm pretty sure i've already seen it.

>>45007063
>>45006993
10/10 fund it.

>>45006648
Reminder, mellinials are between 17 and 36 years old this year.

>>45007099
We need to go deeper.
And make it an interactive porn where you pick what happens in the scene. Does the black man wins? The white? Does the winner rape the other? Brutally assfucks the MILF and jizzes on the loser? Does the MILF jump inbetween the two and assures them she can satisfy the two and it all ends in a three-way marriage?

>>45007121
Reminder, you're still a retard both socially and literally

>>45007121
Your math is off a bit there you illiterate, senile piece of human garbage.

>>45005485

You know, I could fucking swear that it's the middle of January, yet there's this summer post right here. Retard Frog and everything.

>>45007067
Probably targeting all those groups. Plus being so aggravatingly wrong, like this guy >>45007121

>>45007149
Why would you ever choose anything but the thinking man's ending?

>>45007181
So we can satisfy all markets at once and make more dosh.

>>45007149
The real villain is revealed to be the Baron who deceived the MILF into believing her husband was dead and the black man into thinking she loved him. Both men then defeat the Baron as new compatriots, cut his balls off and doubleteam the MILF.

It is implied that they lived happily until the MILF had a little Mulatto baby, at which point the black man mysteriously vanished.

Do people still not know millennial a were born in the 80s and 90s?

>>45007194
There is no market for reverse cuck-porn.

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>>45007202

>>45005485
Playing with "normies" is fine, but most of them have more active social lives than most of the nerd clique so end up being quite unreliable for games.

I mean, it's great when they start, they are enthusiastic, willing to learn... but after a couple of weeks playing once a week becomes playing once a fortnight, or once a month, and the game kinda peters out.

It'd be nice if more can make the time, but i don't really blame them for getting busy, i've had to drop games due to things interfering.

>>45007202
It's from the mid 80's to the early 2000's IIRC.

>>45007210
I refuse to believe that.

>>45007227
When do you think the generation defined as starting with those reaching adulthood around the turn of the millennia would be born?

Kids born today are iGen.

>>45005485
>SJW mentality check your privilage normie scum! The post.

>>45007258
Then why there is basically none of it out there?

>>45007210
There is blacks cucking other blacks though

>>45007270
"Generations" are bullshit. Only generation seen as such by sociology are baby boomers. The rest is an indistinguishable blob.

>>45007270
Millenials are named after the point they become adults and the next generation is named after the stuff made when they're kids?

>>45007275
Am I the only person in existence with Google? Because a few seconds on that and you can see that's not true.

>>45007256
If by "mid" you mean 1982, and early 00s just means even more people on this board complaining about millennials are, in fact, millennials.

>>45007305
Both are nicknames. Gen Y and Gen Z are the less clickbait-y names.

>>45005485
Only retards are unable to be "normie" and have "nerd" interests at the same time

>>45007297
>things that are not true, the post
Unless you mean that sociology is all meaningless bullshit, which is mostly true.

>>45005485
Back in my times we called them filthy casuals.

>>45005485
If some oldfag doesn't accept me because I wasn't bullied in high school that's their problem. My wasted time and money is just as valid as theirs, the difference is spaghetti doesn't fall out of pants when people ask me about my hobbies

>>45007317
Crazy how people born during an arbitrary period of time can dislike behaviors commonly attributed to people born in a similar period of time.

Really, a lot of folks here likely see themselves separated from the majority of folks their age with only a small group of friends, if any. So it's not hard to see how there could be a lot of millennials who dislike millennials on this board/site.

>>45007398
It's almost like a year of your birth is not the only thing that impacts your personality. Crazy!

>>45007355
>Unless you mean that sociology is all meaningless bullshit, which is entirely true.
ftfy

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>>45007398
So 4chan is full of Uncle Tom millennials?

>>45007210
>There is no market for reverse cuck-porn.
cuckquean nigguh

>>45005485
>frogposter
No, never.

>>45005958
>>>/r9k/ is over there you triggered manchild

>>45005665
Thats becaus thats the right gramar for it.

>>45005485
dumb frogposter

>>45007549
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/why-the-plural-of-%E2%80%9Cdie%E2%80%9D-is-%E2%80%9Cdice%E2%80%9D-not-%E2%80%9Cdouse%E2%80%9D

>>45007453
That's just the "NORMIES GET OUT!!!" folks.
I don't know about the other boards but I'm under the impression that doesn't apply to most of /tg/.

>>45007398
It's not hard to dislike millenials and Gen iPad when they teamed up with boomers to fuck everything up.
>censorship back in fashion just when internet and free information became mainstream and previously Russia-occupied countries started getting their shit together
>all the social justice bullshit
>immigrants welcome
>white males not welcome
>The Cuckening intensifies

So I play Magic fairly competitively, and in that environment you see people from all walks of life. When you play at a Grand Prix or RPTQ, you're playing against people who are serious and love the game and are generally pretty cool. When you play at FNM you can play against literally any kind of person, including turbonerds and parents and kids.

I don't care who I'm playing with or against. I'm there to play a game and have fun, and winning is fun to me. If I lose, then I'm less likely to have fun, but I accept that losing comes with playing games. If we can talk during or after the game and they're cool, that's even better. Being a normie really doesn't matter.

If I'm playing D&D, all I want is people who aren't "lol so random" or people just playing angry birds and not focusing. Everyone brings something different to the table. If they're a normie who also plays D&D, what the fuck do I care? You've got nothing to prove to me. I'm there to roll dice, have fun, and do some mild improv, not push some persecution agenda.

>>45005485
No, sounds like he belongs on /r9k/, not /tg/.

>>45005485
>be middle school me
>top dog of the social outcasts by way of least autism
>alpha of the omegas
>grow up a bit
>realize that other groups of kids don't avoid us because they're just hateful shits
>they avoid us because we smell funny, have autistic outbursts, are physically repulsive in some cases and make no attempt to be anything but asocial with them
>clean up a bit
>still hang out with the guys
>also make an effort to be friendly to the kids that used to kick our shit in
>surprise surprise, they're not so bad when you stop leering at them from across the swing set
>even if the girls were a little less receptive (again, staring at people and being a beta isn't a great way to make friends)
>friends continue to sit in caves playing vidya
>even now, into their 20s they still throw sleepovers and play MtG
>honestly pretty glad I didn't end up like that.


The fact is your 'suffering' was self-imposed. The most you can blame is your parents for not teaching you better hygiene and social skills. What happened with the big 'nerd culture' revolution is enough fringe kids made an effort to cross borders and ended up bringing the better facets of social outcasts (namely their sweet-ass card games and comics) to groups that were socially adept. So you can sperg all you like about 'muh oppression' and 'muh stigma'. But the fact is if you had been socially adept (as many tabletop players were and are) and capable of presenting yourself well and, most importantly, not going turbotalk when somebody asks what your hobbies are, you could have easily gotten by with those 'popular kids' without having to hide your personality.

The coolest, most 'popular' people I know today are exactly that: people that have their own hobbies, don't make excuses for the way they do things, and still be friendly and sociable with people who don't share the same hobbies. If you legitimately polarize the world in such a two dimensional way you're still a child in most people's eyes.

I find the very idea of "real" gamers silly.

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>>45006032
>implying the new left isn't the result of KGB intellectual seduction in the 60's

>>45006296
How's that half a semester of psychology and gender studies going for you, pal?

>>45005485
No, this is stupid, you're a twat.

Replace "gamer" with "reader" or "viewer" in these discussions and you'll see how idiotic all this rage is.

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>>45005485

>>45007743
Fuck off.

>>45007806
>Replace "gamer" with "reader" or "viewer" in these discussions and you'll see how idiotic all this rage is.

>implying in any other hobby being a dilettante and passing yourself off as an expert is remotely acceptable

"oh yes, I love literature, I've read Twilight so many times"

"im a real cinephile, Transformers is art"

>>45007687
that's great for you and all but your utter dismissal of problems of nerds interacting with the more normal folks really bugs me. Just because you managed to deal with your obstacles doesn't mean it would be just as simple for everyone else.

>>45007887
Well the difference is that literature and cinema is art. Tabletop games are pure entertainment. You might as well get mad that people are casual soda drinkers.

>>45007896
Taking a shower and stopping to look at people like a sexual predator is not that hard.

>>45007153
>>45007157
>>45007171
>I-I'M NOT A MILLENNIAL
>H-HOW DARE YOU

>>45007909
>casual soda drinkers

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

420 CARBONATE IT FUCKING NORMIEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>45005485

I don't know.

I don't know enough about either side to form an accurate opinion about it.

I'm having trouble seeing this issue from multiple sides of view.

I mean, on the one hand, it's easy to get mad when someone reaps the "reward" for something you had to "work" for, and they didn't have to do the same "work" as you.

On the other hand, there's a reason "work" is in quotes and there's a difference between mad and buttmad.

...I think.

>>45006957
Except that they're all boring as fuck and vaguely retarded.

>>45005485

You're cute OP. I was once suspended from school for taking my AD&D books and 'promoting witchcraft' with them.

I shit you not at all. After that, most people thought I was a devil worshiper and just avoided me. The only people I talked to on the regular were my D&D friends, whom everyone thought were satanists as well.

All because of some funny shaped dice and questionable illustrations.

My English teacher tried to stick up for me to the administration when I was suspended, by telling them he played D&D too. He was fired at the end of that school year. No official reason, but everyone knew it was because he was a satanist.

It wasn't all bad though. I got my first gf because she wanted to piss off her ultra-christian parents by dating me. Oral game was strong.

>>45007927
neither are problems I have. Heck, I actively avoid looking at people unless I'm talking with them, regardless of if they might be looking in my general direction or not.

I'm trying to say, other people don't have the same problems you had.

>>45007927
>Come on, depression isn't real, just go out and do stuff.
>Picking up girls is easy, just be yourself, bro.
>Just hit the gym, bro.
>Just because you don't have legs doesn't mean you can't get off the sofa you lazy ass cunt, I did it, so you can too!

>>45006189
Check out Galaxy Defenders, Setlers of Catan (inb4 do you catan), Arkham Horror (Its CoC, not batman) and one of my personal favorites: HeroeQuest,.

>>45007927

That must be what I'm doing wrong!

I'll be sure to stop to look at people like a sexual predator in the future.

>>45007887

I was rather talking about stuff like:
>Why is every reader gurl like this?
>Viewers have gone mainstream, but in doing so, they've become outcasts in their own hobby

Stuff that I grabbed from the archive. Those sentences sound completely retarded in a new context, just like the examples you gave.

The point is that people don't make reading and the like into their identity, and neither should they about playing games. Having this or that hobby doesn't define you, it doesn't bind you to a dogma or call you to a crusade, and it doesn't make you special in any way.

Some people don't get this, and those people are morons. They are obnoxious now matter where you encounter them. Being an adult means knowing how to deal with morons without going insane with rage.

>>45007909
Lots of artist have been trying to define art for a long time now, and there's still now conclusion.
So making sweeping statements what can and can't be art doesn't help the discussion of media.

>>45008228
>Those sentences sound completely retarded in a new context, just like the examples you gave.
Not really. Cinema buffs are whining about movies being dumbed down for decades by now.

>>45008277
And literature enthusiasts are whining about how everything was so much better in the last century and it's all going down the drain now, and how people keep buying shit books instead of their favorite timeless classics.

>>45008228
The difference is that games have active participation while for example with movies, the viewer is just a passive bystander.

>>45008228
>Some people don't get this, and those people are morons.

They're not morons. They're just socially undeveloped. They never really got out of the stage where they feel compelled to share the traits of everyone else in their social circle (think high school cliques like jocks and such). They define themselves by who they are like, not who they are.

Whenever someone takes part in something that is something they see as part of their group's identity, but they don't share much else in common with that group, it causes psychological stress. It weakens their definition of 'their' group, and since their group is their self image, it weakens what little sense of self they have developed.

It's actually kind of sad.

>>45007896

Go on, then, tell me what is hard about basic social etiquette and hygiene?

>>45008277
And according to /lit/ nothing that tries to be entertaining is worth a damn.

Elitists are elitist no matter the subject. And in this case they ignore that new media open up to the mainstream as they become more popular, because there is now a demand for it.

>>45007040
Best, fucking meme rage breaker.

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>>45005541
the satanic panic + a fiedn got me into gaming

>"people hallucinate real dragons!"

fuck yea, sounds cool

>Chaos Warriors i WHFB

ok, now i'm fucking sold....

>>45008367
Most of people are in some way like that. For nerds those are comics and games, for rest it's religion, nationality or gender.

>>45008228
>>45008367

Not only that, but they didn't start out defining themselves as outsiders. That was a role that was created for them. Now that they've embraced it and made it their own, and prettied it up a bit, the mainstream wants it back.

Or at least that's what it seems like. In reality, it's probably that people in the mainstream have seen the negative portrayal and feel guilty about it, so they're trying to mend the bridge, but the nerds are twice shy.

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>>45006296
I understand this desu
I actually attacked one of my best friends more than once because I was so frustrated and knew they wouldn't fight back

We're still friends and I don't know how. I honestly don't think if I deserve that kind of loyalty

>>45008367
>It's actually kind of sad
Yes, it is. But when people get angry, they tend to become less empathic.

>>45008365
Yes? Games are a different medium than books or movies. Is that a counter to anything I've said? I could only assume that you are saying that things that interact with the audience cannot be art.

I would not agree with that.

>>45008079
Catan is 30 minutes of fun crammed into two to four hours. You're much better off with Carcassonne, any Ticket to Ride besides America, or Splendor.

>>45005485
Vaugely I suppose, it pisses me off when I see people who used go bully me for my hobby trying to get into it, or even worse, trying to change it to better suit them.

>>45008438

Before anything else, I'll give you the hygiene. I'm not even going to contest that. Also I know this is bait and I'm biting anyway.

What's so hard about middle school Algebra? Or any other middle school course? Why is it so hard for people to get?

We call them social RETARDS for a reason. That reason is that they are RETARDED when dealing with social activity.

Please don't pick on retards. I know it feels good because you distance yourself from them and convince yourself that you're not them anymore, but it's not nice to pick on retards.

>>45008438
anon, I'm respectful to strangers and shower thoroughly 6 times a week, washing twice per shower.

Is it really so hard to understand that there's more keeping a person from holding a conversation with people than being clean and polite?

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>>45008560

Fuck. You.

It's not retardation. It's just an unwillingness to go outside of your comfort zone. Trying to hide behind an excuse like 'lol i'm retarded' because you're scared is half of your fucking problem.

>>45008620
>shower thoroughly 6 times a week,

What happens on day 7?

>>45008707

I'm not him, but sometimes I just can't be fucked to bother on Sunday.

>>45008707
I play up the slob stereotype alone in my room. I'll shower if someone comes over or I go somewhere, but that's rare.

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>>45006980
>I'm a pedo
Shit nigger you're not supposed to be sharing this stuff here.

>>45008677
>>jus b urself bro

>>45005485
Sort of. If you join my game saying you are "very experienced in Pathfinder" and you ask me, "How do I power attack?" during combat then you are a retarded scrub and you are gone from my group.

>>45006904
>>>/pol/
Go back to your containment board, faggot.

>>45008560
You can't learn to not be mentally retarded. But you can learn to not be socially retarded - or at least enough that it's not obvious you're socially retarded, the way it's obvious you're mentally retarded. It's a fuckton of effort, you're going to feel miserable a lot, and you're going to wonder why you're doing it - but at the end, you're able to live the life you actually want to live, not the one you've been living because you had no choice, and that's worth it.

>>45007067

All of the above, at the same time, It's pretty much a genius level post in that regard.

Only in that regard though.

>>45008790

No. Just do whatever it takes to fix your fucking life, instead of whining and making excuses.

Stephen Fry suffers from crippling depression. They made him a national treasure of the United Kingdom. James Earl Jones and Sam Jackson, both men known for their amazing voices, stutter. A MAN WITH NO LEGS RAN IN THE FUCKING OLYMPICS.

Get out of your own way, motherfucker. Get therapy. Get on pills. Get a spiritual councillor. Take a class. Do whatever it takes. Just fucking stop being a useless piece of meat.

>>45006164

>not being able to bring your A game despite having 2 children

Man, Get on my level son, I have two kids and still GM like a boss.

>>45008874
Make me, faggot.

>>45007607
The "yay, restriction of my human rights!" people are a retarded mob that will eventually stop their own movement by turning on the hand that made them, Frankenstein-style.

>>45005980

I'll second this, well said.

>>45008888
Robots in a nutshell.

>>45007720
Because everything has to be the fault of the Commie Jews, right?

>>45008521
Dude, do you even Catan?

>>45007040

My fucking sides!

>>45008874
>They made him a national treasure of the United Kingdom.
I still don't know why. That cunt is painfully unfunny.

>>45007317

OH JESUS you had me worried for a second, thank you 1981!

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>>45008874
Hey! Just because I can't make friends doesn't mean I'm useless.

Actually, I think that might be important for why I don't bother, since I don't care as much as most people think I should care, no matter how much they tell me that's the wrong way to live.

Why do people keep telling me how to live my life?

>>45006189
> I've never personally tried anything along those lines but I've heard a solid grip of horror stories of types like that.
Well shit.
>>45006296
>Bullying can be surprisingly damaging and a lot of people can hold onto that grudge for a long time and project it onto others.
I imagine, I'm just asking whether it really happens a lot.
>>45008880
>Man, Get on my level son, I have two kids and still GM like a boss.
That's good for you, anon.

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>>45007040
Look morty it's a new joke. We better monitor this thread incase another one shows up

>>45007896

It's actually that fucking easy, But in High school I played Rifts on weekends at a game shop, but mostly hung out with Normies during the week.

Turns out, yes, you can belong to more than one social group and your hobbies don't define you, who the fuck knew?

>>45008044

The 80's were a majestic time were they not?

(Please tell me your talking about the 80's)

>>45008043

Well, everyone else is boring and very specifically retarded.

>>45008874
>A MAN WITH NO LEGS RAN IN THE FUCKING OLYMPICS.

And then ended up murdering his girlfriend.

>>45008874
>Beating depression is easy if you have all the motivation and talent depression took away.
Oh ok.
I guess you had it that one time when your girlfriend dumped you and you cried for a week.

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>>45009076
But don't you need to have something in common with people to be part of that group? I hung out with normies because they were friends of friends, but any interaction with them was just a fleeting conversation. I really don't know why people would want to know a bunch of random people.

What's wrong with a small group of friends you share commons interests with?

What's so good about a large group of friends you don't share interests with?

Why bother with the latter group? I'd rather be reading but they make me feel bad for reading instead of talking and I have to put on my normie persona, since the boisterous (to put it nicely) side I use while gaming doesn't go well with most people.

>>45009163

Yeah. 80s as fuck.

>>45009301
He got away with it too! Even a legless murderer can get away with murder.

>>45009475

Yeah, I did have stuff in common with them, it's called "I'm not my fucking weekend hobby". What part are you not getting here?

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>>45009334
>You don't understand depression, I do!
>I conflate situational and chronic depression!
>I'm being a moron and nobody can stop me!

Ladies and gentlemen, stand in awe of the awesome faggorty of this poster.

>>45009498

Speaking of gaming stuff that almost got me suspended. It was probably not a great idea to have been talking about that VtM game in the back of homeroom the same day Columbine hit.

That got pretty awkward pretty quick man.

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>>45009541
The point.

>>45009616

I'm sorry I didn't go through high school as a sad little shit who didn't know how to exist outside of my sole hobby like you apparently did.

>>45009475
You know you can have more than one interest, right? I manage to like to like wargames, modeling, RPGs, and card games, plus I like football.

Pats can get fucked

>>45006043

No you didn't, stop making up bullshit to add to the bogeyman.

>>45005485
He hid his hobbies out of fear of ridicule? What a fucking faggot.

>>45007896
>just because a human being is capable of achieving something doesn't mean other human beings aren't capable of accomplishing the same feat.
Well I suppose if you ran your game in the back of the short bus (which I suspect is the case) this would be a legitimate argument.

>>45009675
>pats
>liking American Football
>not preferring the far superior sports of Association Football and/or Rugby

>>45009692
I think you failed reading comprehension there, bucko.

>>45008044
This shit pisses me off. Just goes to show have fucking stupid human cattle are to believe such ridiculous shit and react so poorly to something as harmless as a game.

I remember when my friend's mom told me not to talk about DnD because it was "sorcery". This very same bitch flipping out over me playing a game was a "Christian" who would happily hand over money to a "psychic" to "speak with the dead". She's dead now.

>>45009675

Fuck yeah they can get fucked! Bronco's anit my team, but they got my love right now.

>>45009749
Eh, different strokes I guess. I will watch the World Cup when it's on tho.

>>45007317

This. I'm 25 and based on my memory of 4chan user stats the majority of people posting here should be within a few years of me, slanted to the younger side if anything. I think the transformation of nerd hobbies from outcast-tier to accepted began or at least reached mainstream around the time I was in HS/college, probably assisted by the popularity of video games like WoW. I was considered weird in middle school and high school for being into MTG and DnD and I remember feeling embarrassed and hiding it for the most part (I would even stuff all my cards into drawers at home because I didn't like my parents/siblings to find them laying around). But I was never seriously bullied by peers or shamed by adults, for which I feel grateful. My DnD group in college included some long-time nerds in addition to people who were new to the hobby (including girls). By that time I was also over feeling like normal people were out to get me and it turned out to be a great group.

I feel bad for people who had to endure actual persecution for being into nerd hobbies (something that seems downright silly today), but things are better now than they've ever been. I think perhaps the reason a lot of people in the gaming community feel uneasy or upset about the normalization of games is that the former outcast status made it a sort of haven for social misfits. The sense of community among people who all felt isolated from other people made it meaningful in a sense above and beyond the actual gaming part. So it is a bit sad that that world is disappearing, but I think it's just the circle of life that one subculture gets replaced by another.

>>45009770

I'll do you one better. You remember when Harry Potter was all the rage, like the second movie had just come out or something? Do you remember that stink evangelicals made about the scar on his forehead being the mark of the Beast?

The town I live in had a book burning, where they gathered up a shitload of Harry Potter books, Pokemon and MtG cards, and burned them publically near a game store, to show their 'defiance of the satanic liberal agenda and those that profit from it.' I couldn't make this shit up.

You might still be able to find news stories on it.

>>45009857
The average retard will believe anything someone with authority tells them.

>>45008065
>I actively avoid looking at people
Well there's a whole different can of worms. but how about you exercise a little control over your spergometer and try to chill out for once?

For instance, refer to the greentext below for the proper answer as opposed to what you want to say (plaintext)

>hello anon, how are you today?

Well I woke up and realized my guild account had been permabanned so I had to spend almost all morning working out what happened and dealing with the monogloid on the other end of customer support
>Oh, not bad. and you?

>Oh, I'm fine. I was just about to get some coffee.

You know, I ran this hilarious campaign once where I played a lich that opened his own chain of medieval starbucks and put the souls of the damned into each cup so that everyone who drank his coffee would become depressed. Of course this was all fairly normal for the setting where we had a sex wizard and a demon bard that could play maracas with his taint and-
>Really? I was just headed that way myself.

>Oh, well maybe we can catch up over a cup?

-so the demon would shake his ass at his enemies to stun them with his astonishing maraca skills. So you like coffee huh? I do tea personally, I went to Japan for a semester, well I didn't really go, it was an online class in Japanese. But I'd drink green tea when I took it and rolled my own sushi, I mean, it was in a kit for 20.00 at Wal-Mart but it was pretty decent, not like the traditional Japanese stuff though. I'm such a weirdo LAWL. Anyway maybe you'd like to accompany me to get a cup of refreshing bean juice m'la- where are you going?
>Sounds great. I haven't seen you in, gosh, what is it, 3 years? What have you been up to?

>>45005485
This has been true for literally everything and being old and mad about it doesn't make you special, it just makes it more pathetic that you can't let go. Enjoy that what you fought for is commonly acceptable now.

>>45008078
>Be 12
>diagnose self with depression because you have no friends or energy
>have suffered literally no traumatic experiences in your life
>convince yourself it's real and use catch 22 logic to keep yourself in a state of perpetual victimhood

Have fun with that.

>>45009857
Absolute lunacy.

>>45009301
>a 0 dex guy ran in the olympics
>and then proceeded to defeat a Dex 10 character in single combat
Again, why can't you do it?

>>45010018
Because that's illegal and I'm lawful neutral.

>>45010005

I'm about 15 miles from a church that burns BIBLES, because they're not KJV 1611. This shit is real.

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>internet nerds rail against political correctness
>hate the concept of cultural appropriation
>NO YOU CAN'T ENJOY THIS THING I LIKE I SUFFERED FOR IT YOU DIDN'T SUFFER FOR IT BACK OFF
>mfw

>>45005485
No, because I'm not a retard who thinks that being a social reject is an important part of the hobby just because it's full of social rejects.

There's a lot of fa/tg/uys out there who are bitter that the normal people who suddenly adopted their hobby doesn't really look up to or care about them, that's all there is to it. A lot of normal people picked up nerdy hobbies, but it didn't magically make all the nerds normal.

>>45005965
>at least back then there wasn't any "diversity" and liberal propaganda

>what were the 90's

Granted, it was much more toned down and actually dealt with legit racial and mysoginistic issues in American society, but it had a tendency to go over the top too.

>>45005485
Im rather happy that TGs got out of NEET territory, my group smells a lot better, i dont have to print copy of my books because i dont want them to be destroyed by some stupid neckbeard with greasy hands, there is a lot less sperging out and arguing at my table. Overall the social inept but still able to interact with people nerd is a way better model than the 80s social outcast nerd who is angry at everything

>>45007596
Dies is still correct. Even by the logic of that article, dice is an uncountable or simply uncounted group or number of dies. Dies is to die like persons is to person, and dice is to people.

>>45005485
Precocious, socially inept, can't talk to girls, can't stand up for himself, gets really, REALLY into obscure trivia and escapism.
>Yes, obviously it's because I enjoy D&D that my peers don't accept me, it can't be anything else, I am a martyr of nerdhood.
Nerdy hobbies suddenly become popular, D&D is chique and mainstream, he's still not popular.
>Ff, fuckin' normies man, they c, can't steal my culture! They didn't suffer like I did.
Dear dorks. Please get over yourselves and shower more often.
Sincerely
Normal people

>>45007896
Best friend in high school (holy shit over a decade ago) was head cheerleader , had keggers at my house, and I could carry a conversation with everyone in the school without drooling on myself.

I have a bookcase full of RPG books, table top games, and more bookshelves full of scifi/fantasy literature. Most of my free time is either gaming or bullshitting about gaming.

There is no difference between "nerds" and "normies". You just haven't gotten to the point where you realize that "we're all just folk now".

>>45007687
>alpha of the omegas
Tis a strange thing to be the One-eyed King of the Blind, I pretty happily jettisoned numerous "friends" after graduating secondary who I really only interacted with out of some misplaced hope of fixing them.

>>45009669

This is why you don't understand.
This is why it's easy for you.

>>45007896

Nigger, you sound just like a typical tumblrina telling people that they just don't understand what it's like to be a tri-gendered fictionkin with headmates you have to constantly stop from raping each other.

The only thing you didn't do was tell him to check his privilege.

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>>45005485

No, because I don't give a shit about nerd cred and neither should any mature, functioning adult.

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>>45010107
>any period after the cold war
>legitimate civil rights issues
mkay comrade.

>>45008824
This is pretty much spot on. I have a mental disability, but by practicing a lot I have managed to pass as "normal" in day to day life.

I'm trying to go pro in a sport right now and that helps a lot just in terms of confidence and motivation.

>>45009932
I do everything I can to keep the topic away from my hobbies. They ask what I'm reading and I'll just say "it's a sci-fi book, like Star Wars" or something along those lines and change the subject to focus on them instead.

>>45009669
I'm pretty sure the constant bullying and raging was more of an issue in school than my hobbies, anyway. Little shits. Turns out getting rid of one set of bullies just signaled to the rest that I'm easily angered so I got new bullies. Couldn't ignore them since they got physical.

Oh boy oh boy, looks like /tg/'s gonna get torn apart by NEETs and faggots.

The last good board in this ocean of cancerous shit is going down then, it seems.

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>>45007040

>>45010253
normalfags are fucking retarded. No really.

You can tell them all about the facts; not just evolutionary facts but facts about the world at large; you can tell them that the bodies of all living things are made up of million of tiny cells, or that every surface is covered with bacteria, or just how thin the Earth's crust is compared to most of its mass, or anything else and it doesn't matter to them. It doesn't instill a sense of discovery or wonder or anything.

All normalfags want is their own lives to go as swimmingly as possible. They don't want to make their own opinions, they don't ask questions at school, they don't care about what their actions are or how they relate to the world at large, they just want money, shallow hobbies, and parrot everything their parents told them to say without ever stopping to think why it might be right. And when told they are wrong or they need to have an open mind, they'll get defensive and mad.

Seriously, fuck normalfags.

>>45010253
There is absolutely a huge difference.

Best friend in high school (holy shit over a decade ago) was starting quarterback, had keggers at my house, and I could carry a conversation with everyone in the school without drooling on myself. I could pretend to be a normie, sure, but it was boring and I knew no one would accept my actual interests like RPGs, video games, and shitty fantasy novels.

Talking with him or others about nerdy hobbies was a NO. Finding other nerds to game with was very difficult, and finding new people for RPGs was even harder. I always felt like I have to hide my nerd hobbies because they are most certainly looked down on. Off-handedly mentioning to a girl that I played DnD once is a sure-fire way to getting dropped like a turd.

Seeing people pick up nerd culture and pretending they are hardcore nerds is understandably frustrating, but it is not something worth people getting mad about.

>>45010353
no, we just were social retards, some of us got over the bullying some did not. I for one dont want others to go threw what i did and be me, a shitty little boy, with next to no friends who almost fucked up his life because of it. I dont like the idea of RPGs becoming mainstream because it will get us a fuck load of shitty players but i like the idea of it becoming more sociably accepteble and beaing treated like a normal hobby

>>45009475
Anon you are not "boisterous". Being boisterous would make you ft in with normies.
You're probably just clingy, obnoxious, and loud.

>>45010405
Your friends wouldn't talk about your hobbies that you didn't share, oh noes. Did you talk about things they did that you weren't interested in? (if so, why?)

You talk with your sports friends about athletics, you talk with your drinking buddies about that nice bottle of whiskey you got, and you talk with your LGS buds about how monks are shit.

There's a time and place and group of friends/acquaintances for talking about everything.

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As long as the person is willing to actually integrate into the culture to a point where they're not a liability or hindrance to the group's experience I couldn't care less what their background is.

My group has a girl that had never played a tabletop game in her life beyond Betrayal at House on the Hill and her only knowledge of fantasy was Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones. But we gave her a PDF of the player's handbook and a week to prep and she showed up as the most badass wizard ever.

>>45010497
Being obnoxious and loud means I'm not boisterous?

>>45010397
>he thinks /tg/ has been a good board for the last 5 years
This board has been continuously gangraped by retarded mods, SA goons, tumblrfags, redditors and 1d4fags for years now. /tg/ seriously has a reputation as some kind of a "non-offensive safe space in the middle of a sea of shit" outside 4chan, which attracts filth here.

>>45010535
>As long as the person is willing to actually integrate into the culture to a point where they're not a liability or hindrance to the group's experience I couldn't care less what their background is.

So what you're saying is you hate Jews and Muslims then?

I bet Spooky is behind all of this. They're always looking for ways to ruin other people's fun just like how they did with /wst/.

>>45010558

boisterous is fun loud. Obnoxious is not fun loud.

>>45010353

So your a little emo bitch then?

Wow I feel bad for your parents.

>>45010514
>You talk with your sports friends about athletics, you talk with your drinking buddies about that nice bottle of whiskey you got, and you don't talk to your LGS buds because they do not exist and nerd culture is entirely absent or hidden here. You never talk about monks. There's not even a LGS here.

Fixed.

>>45010514
>Did you talk about things they did that you weren't interested in? (if so, why?)

Yes, all the time. That's called making conversation. It's generally nice and respectful to listen to others talk about their passions.

>>45005485

So at this point this is just "STOP LIKING THINGS I LIKE!" The thread.

>>45010395
>Couldn't ignore them since they got physical.
That's when you just beat the shit out of them. Preferably in a highly visible socially acceptable way. Football is great for that. Also hockey.

>>45010564
>/tg/ seriously has a reputation as some kind of a "non-offensive safe space in the middle of a sea of shit" outside 4chan

My bad. I spent a long time trying to get people on reddit and tumblr to believe the /tg/ actually stood for ho/tg/enderfluid, a progressive gaming board.

>>45009978
>traumatic experiences are necessary for depression
>everyone with depression should just man up and stop faking
Not even him, but I have sought professional help and been diagnosed with long term clinical depression and I would like to say go fuck your self you shit stain of a human

>>45010401
>All normalfags are the specific subset of the population that are proudly ignorant

C'mon, blanket statements like that only exacerbate the problem. So what about people that don't game but at least keep a casual interest in developing technologies and world news, hmm?

If you cared enough about what people think to hide your hobbies, then you are the normie.

>>45010653
Back to /r9k/ with you.

>>45010632
>ho/tg/enderfluid
I'm pretty sure that tumblr crowd are against calling people hot. It implies that there are non-hot people.

>>45010558
No.
>>45010584
Exactly this.
See I'm boisterous. Boisterous is "fuck you, I'm awesome" obnoxious is "I actually think I'm better than you, and will tell you that."

>>45010617
Eh, we generally preferred to discuss things of mutual interest rather than prattle about things our friends weren't interested in.

>>45010252
You have no place or voice here if you're normal. Normal, well adjusted people have no business posting on a site made for manchildren and autists and their shitflinging crusades.

>>45010581
Hey, it still exists on /d/ as /efg/. Things may have changed, but at least we can post porn pics with our stories now.

>>45010701
>Boisterous is "fuck you, I'm awesome"
No, that's delusional.

>>45010684

Oh, right. I'll remember that for the next time. Also, Andrea Dworkin.

>>45010564
wait what? How? I mean /tg/ is pretty light comp eared to /b/ or /pol/ when it comes to politics, but like every one here hates X cards and special snowflakes, most people get a laugh from both far right fantasy and far left fantasy and dont want to know about you sexuality if they dont need to when playing

>>45010704
So then why would a "normie" and a nerd have anything to talk about if their interests are very different?

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>>45010707
>sekrit klub! sekrit klub!

Adorable.

>>45010729
Only if you actually believe it.

>>45010707
Fuck off, newfag. 4chan has always been for enthusiasts, not worthless, bitter assholes.

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>>45010359
>mature, functioning adults
>on 4chan
Best part is you're actually serious.

>>45010584
uh huh. That's why I don't hang out with normies. As they might think they're boisterous or whatever word they'd use while I just see them as being annoying. This is a clear sign I don't belong in that situation. I can only bring the mood down with my own personality since my 'happy' self doesn't mix well with others.

>>45010629
Unfortunately, my school had no sports with tackling. I once got to run a gauntlet of padded human obstacles at school but since I'm the biggest guy they all got out of my way. No fun at all.

>>45010760
You're projecting an awful lot, faglord. "Everyone" doesn't believe a single damn thing.

>>45010729
>No, that's delusional.
>obnoxious is "I actually think I'm better than you, and will tell you that."

Found the obnoxious guy.

>>45010763
Are you only interested in one thing? Sports, alcohol, women, gaming, cars, vidya, modeling, etc... not every person will have all of the same interests.

So, you talk with people that share some of your interests about the interests that you do share...


I feel like this isn't a novel concept.

>>45010823
Projecting? How? I dont think that there has been one thred that anyone aside from OP said that X cards were a good thing

>>45010252
>Normal people
Get the fuck out of here, faggot. You may share a hobby with us, but you should discuss it with the like-minded normies you can find on reddit, facebook or other shitholes. This one is for us dorks.

Polite sage.

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>>45010798
Neither did my school when I was there. Fortunately they did have a football field from before contact games were banned by the stupid fucking zero-tolerance no violence crowd, so pick-up football on weekends and after school were pretty popular.

>>45010793
>4chan has always been for enthusiasts
Good one. 4chan was made because mootles was a failed SAfag.

>>45010632
I'm pretty sure up to a couple years ago both '/totally gay/' and '/trans gender/' were appropriate ways to interpret /tg/ for here. Then legbutt was created.

>>45010897
He was a failed SA fag because he was an enthusiast in something the faggot cuck goons don't like.

>>45010798
Fair enough. Being boisterous is the mask I put on to fit in with most groups, and it is mostly just a mask. For me though it's worth it because I crave social activity and interaction. If you don't i ca see why you wouldn't put the effort in, but then you can't blame normies for being themselves, wanting to have hobbies, or people who want to fit in from tryin their hardest to fit in, ya know?

>>45010395

So I was right about the whole "Sad little shit thing"

>>45010963
>little
no

>>45005485
I used to back when I was a bitter lonely nerd trying to find any reason to think myself better than others. But you know what I noticed? The people who called themselves "hardcore" and "gamers" were generally shitty people that had nothing else going on in their lives outside of that.

So I worked my ass off to improve myself and I guess I am a normie now. I play the same games as those disgusting neckbeards, and it is hilarious how bitter so many of them are and a few of my old "friends" actually resent me and hate seeing me at the LGS now because the thought of someone bettering themselves and not being defined by a label vexes their tiny NEET mind.

>>45010988

You could be 9 feet fucking tall, and still be a little bitch. Especially the way you come off.

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>>45010840
I am interested in many things and most of those things are not interesting to the public because most of those things are "nerd culture" which you have already established as something that should not be discussed.

However, would my sports buddies have any issue talking about alcohol? Not at all!
Would my drinking buddies have any issue talking about sports? Not at all!
Would either of them have an issue listening to me talk about cooking a fish, something none of them are interested in at all? Not at all! They might actually become interested in cooking their own fish in the future. But nerd culture is off-limits. It is a dirty, shameful, taboo topic that can not be brought up around the uninitiated.

Basically in my environment, nerd culture is taboo unless you are a qt3.14 gamurrrr grill.

>>45011044
Then find people that share your "nerd culture" interests. Hell, go make friends with the gamer girl (and ffs, don't be a douchemonkey).

As someone from the midwest, where the D&D Satan Panic was extremely prevalent... there's always people who don't give a fuck somewhere, you just have to put the effort into finding them.

>>45010946
>you can't blame normies for being themselves, wanting to have hobbies, ya know?
I'm not doing that, other people getting in the comment chains might, also OP. I just use the word 'normies' since I don't know a better word.

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>>45007195
>It is implied that they lived happily until the MILF had a little Mulatto baby, at which point the black man mysteriously vanished.

>>45011172
Yeah I wasn't sure, just thought I'd throw that in there for good measure.
There's nothing wrong with being a loner, or a person with only a small clique or group of friends, or w/e social situation you refer to have. There really really isn't, as long as the social situation you are in is the one you actually want to be in. Not just one you stuck yourself in and then got all sour grapes at people who didn't make that mistake, like OP.

>>45011141
Trust me, I have looked. The fact that finding a friend to talk about sports is thousands of times easier than finding a friend to talk about RPGs is telling.

>There is no difference between "nerds" and "normies".

Nerds are few and far between, they hide their interests because their interests are taboo.

Normies are everywhere. They gladly talk about whose jersey they bought so they can play dress-up as their favorite athlete, but it's not creepy or pathetic. They can talk about how they puked for a day after binge drinking, but that is totally normal and cool. They can talk about how they fucked the shy girl at the library and then dumped her, but that's not weird or anything.

God forbid someone talk about DnD in public! That would be really weird and uncomfortable! Those people are different!

>>45008677

Actually, retardation doesn't require a form of imbecility. You simply have to be slower at a given area than others. You can be mentally retarded, socially retarded, physically retarded.

Mental retardation just got all the attention, is all.

>>45010401
Holy shit look at the edge on this sperg

If you're not a weeb you should get the fuck off this website.

>>45009857

A friend of mine worked at WotC in Customer Support in early days. A woman called up to say that she was burning all her kid's cards because they were Satanic.

He goes "Don't do that! The fumes would be quite toxic. Shred them instead." When she expressed surprise, he said that they already had their money from the cards, and whatever was done with them after wasn't their concern, except for safety issues.

He almost got in trouble over that.

>>45007710
top kuk

>>45011274
>God forbid someone talk about DnD in public! That would be really weird and uncomfortable! Those people are different!

I don't see this. I talk about my gaming hobbies to see if anyone is interested in joining.

Hell, the HR manager at work is now a gamer because I introduced him to "Betrayal at House on the Hill". He's buying a board game every month, where before it wasn't even something he'd consider.

The demonization of gamers is a relic of a bygone era that rarely exists in the majority of people; are there some that will be dicks and try to make you feel bad about your hobbies? Sure, but who cares what a handful of people think?

Most people will either be apathetic to your interests if they aren't interested, or their curiosity will be piqued and they'll ask. Very few people are going to be vehemently against your hobbies unless you give them reason to be.

>>45010401

There are many 'normalfags' who do have that sense of wonder.

Most of them, however, had it beat out of them by a world that doesn't really reward that. So, because they're essentially people who have been abused by society at large, you're writing them off?

If I had to choose between which is worse, a lack of sense of wonder, or a lack of sense of empathy, I'd say the latter.

>>45011469
Where do you live?

>>45011293

Listen to yourself.

>it's not being socially retarded. it's being a loser, freak, misfit, etc
>it's not being physically retarded. it's being puny, slow, fat, deformed, etc

Why can't we just use words the way they're supposed to be used anymore? Why can't we just call a thing what it is? We don't need to pathologize everything, or make things sound less harsh than they are.

Fuck me, it's like people WANT everyone to have some kind of excuse for being fucked up.

>It's not your fault that you pick your nose & wipe it on your pants while you're in the lunchroom, anon. You're just socially retarded.
>If girls don't wanna date you because of your stench, that's them being ableist against the hygienically retarded, anon, and no fault of yours.

Give me a fucking break.

>>45010567

Most Muslims and Jews I've dealt with seen less of a hindrance than you.

>>45011375

Hilarious. I would like to shake that man's hand.

>>45011502

I agree. Its called showering and learning to say "hi" to people.

>>45005485
Not really, no.

>>45010796

>on /tg/

They actually exist. The worst part is, you think everyone's as horrible a manchild as you.

>>45005485
No, I don't care what people call themselves. I have never considered myself a hardcore gamer or anything of the sort, and I did grow up at a time when playing games was considered weird past a certain age. I even remember how Vampire the Masquerade was considered a possible cause for a murder that happened when I was little. Hell, people still don't quite get what playing tabletop games other than Monopoly actually means where I live.

What does bother me, however, is when people say
>oh, just like in Big Bang Theory
when they ask and I try to explain.

>>45010401
neckbeards are fucking retarded. No really.

You can tell them all about the facts; not just evolutionary facts but facts about the world at large; you can tell them that the bodies of all living things are made up of million of tiny cells, or that every surface is covered with bacteria, or just how thin the Earth's crust is compared to most of its mass, or anything else and it doesn't matter to them. It doesn't instill a sense of discovery or wonder or anything.

All neckbeards want is their own games to go as swimmingly as possible. They don't want to relate to other people, they don't talk to anybody at work, they don't care about what their actions are or how they relate to the world at large, they just want tendies, shallow hobbies, and parrot everything the internet told them to say without ever stopping to think why it might be right. And when told they are wrong or they need to have an open mind, they'll get defensive and mad.

Seriously, fuck neckbeards.

>>45011500

Midwest, heart of the biblebelt.

>>45010401
And all sperglord neckbeards like you just want to be bitter and have a false sense of superiority for their intellect that is shunned by the world at large.

I've found that during my transition from sperglord to normalcool, alot of people are always happy to learn about stuff and have new concepts and ideas explained to them if you can do it in a way that isn't condescending, which is something the neckbeard does not understand. The neckbeard thinks normies should be happy that they decided to come down from their pedestal and illuminate their mind with knowledge, which is absolutely fucking stupid.

Your post just oozes bitterness and anger towards to world at large and I am seriously sad for you.

>>45011578
>possible cause for a murder that happened when I was little

I was in high school when that happened. Man, people freaked the fuck out.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Ferrell

>>45011502

>he thinks retardation is the same as mental damage

If you're less socially adjusted than your peers, you are socially retarded. If your intellect is less developed than your peers, you are mentally retarded.

One can choose to be stupid, and also choose to stop being stupid. Not all retardation is due to brain damage or lack of potential, some of it is simply due to unrealized potential. I was socially retarded when I was in K-12 age. I developed rather quickly once I got to college.

>>45011520

He'd tell that story about once month or two at my old FLGS. We had enough new people in that they wouldn't all know the story.

>>45011596
Definitely in a better part of it than me, then. If I say anything about D&D in public I'll immediately get dirty looks and people whispering because this is a part of the US where the stupid Satanic panic never ended.

>>45011593

Dude, no. I am as neckbeard as anyone in /tg/. I am 40, have been playing RPGs since I was 9, and wrote some self-published d20 stuff.

Literally everything you just said describes someone with Asperger's Syndrome, and in no way applies to me. Yet here I am, the groggiest grognard you'll ever converse with, sitting here in my gym shorts and socks, wrapped with a blanket, having just eaten a hot pocket, and talking in /tg/. You are competely, utterly, and forevermore blown the fuck out.

>>45011642
>If you're less socially adjusted than your peers, you are socially retarded.

Keep making the same assertion. Until you show me something that says you're right (and doesn't come from a lefty think tank), it'll just keep sounding like 'no u'.

>>45011680
Can't help you then. Move away from the insanity is my only suggestion

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>>45011493
When a tree is sick, you cut it down.

>>45010401
>they don't ask questions at school
Honestly, if you needed to ask questions in school or do your homework to get top grades you're probably stupid. Like, really really stupid.

>>45011642
>he thinks retardation is the same as mental damage

No, he doesn't. He thinks people try to attach clinical term to a thing to lessen their own culpability in the phenomenon.

>I was socially retarded when I was in K-12 age.

To translate, you had overbearing parents (probably mostly your mother) who didn't understand you were just fucking shy, and once you got out from under her you were okay. Now you have to get people to believe social retardation is a thing to justify all the trips she made you make to the therapist.

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>>45005485
Well, let me take both sides of the issue. I'm an oldfag, and I remember the rock scene when it was really in its infancy. The thing is, rock started out as something very different from what it became. It was a musical scene dominated by very, very obsessed people with a deep and nuanced love for the music.

It was also grimy, filthy, and ugly. Every stereotype of dirty hippies you can imagine, those stereotypes were true. Part of the initial revulsion that older people at the time felt for rock was due to the fans being gross, socially unacceptable people.

Tabletop gaming was never really like that, but it had elements of that. A lot of fat neckbeards, a lot of balding greasy 30-somethings, a lot of pathetic manchildren, sure. Obsessive people tend to be weird.
But like the musical scene, it had geniuses, and a rich culture of highly game-literate people who really loved the hobby and knew everything about it.

As time goes on, though, scenes tend to become more inclusive, first because it is profitable, and also because it is natural. As the scene expands and becomes more inclusive, there is a definite sense among the "old" fans (often new fans who are just emulating the old) that they are being pushed out or marginalized in the hobby/scene that they love.

And it's true. That is what's happening. But the hard core always survives, even when the normies flood in. They might rattle the cage, but they cannot truly change the heart of the hobby, because that would require an investment of time and effort that they simply cannot put in. But the attention they do pay has a positive effect on the hobby. It breathes life into it.

You saw this in Tabletop Gaming with the Forge crowd and the wash of storygame bullshit that defined the early aughts. In the end, it meant nothing. The core of gaming emerged untouched. So it will always be.

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>>45011493
>lack of empathy is worse than lack of wonder

This is literally the only thing you said that I agree with, and you said it by accident.

>>45005485
No, that's retarded

>>45011705
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retarding

From there, it's simple etymological expansion.

>>45011762

Well, since you lack empathy, time to cut you down, obviously.

>>45011772

Oh, no. I wasn't shy. I went out of my way to make friends. My social skills were less developed than most people. Some of that was not entirely my fault (anyone who is homeschooled has a certain amount of social retardation from that), and since I caught up quickly once I had a group of friends who both A: accepted me, and B: would tell me when I fucked up, the problem wasn't inherent to me, but primarily due to environment. Never went to a therapist. Not even when I probably should have gone.

>>45011772
>To translate, you had overbearing parents (probably mostly your mother) who didn't understand you were just fucking shy, and once you got out from under her you were okay. Now you have to get people to believe social retardation is a thing to justify all the trips she made you make to the therapist.
Ouch. Not same guy but that cuts pretty close.

>>45010107
>Granted, it was much more toned down and actually dealt with legit racial and mysoginistic issues in American society, but it had a tendency to go over the top too.

Anon, it's worth reminding you that the efforts of the 90s are directly responsible for the young adults we have now.

This stuff takes a while to take effect.

>>45011772
>>45011849
Uech. My mother was also incredibly overbearing. Even today she has a hard time letting go even though I'm almost 30 and haven't lived with my parents for close to a decade.

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>>45011836
>etymological expansion

You mean like tumblr has decided that since heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual are real things, that they can put any word before -sexual and it's suddenly something someone can be?

I'll stick to words that actually mean things, thanks.

>>45011923

>someone says something that makes no sense
>it's totally the same as someone else saying something that makes sense but you don't like

Riiiight.

>>45009547

He's implying that YOU are the one conflating situational and chronic depression

>>45011942

And being incredibly wrong while he's at it.

>>45011939

You know, I know that the slippery slope is a fallacious argument, but it really seems to apply here. If you give those ass-fucking weasel-words shit peddlers an inch with language, they will take a mile, and words will cease to have any meaning.

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>>45005485

It's fucking unbelievable how fucking gay this guy is.

Everyone goes through that shit in high-school. People still do, stop deluding yourself into thinking that tabletop gaming has become more acceptable, or "less-nerdy" in the last few years. All that's happened is that as you've gotten older, so have your peers, and MOST people once they hit the age of 22ish stop judging others on their hobbies. It's not something YOU have gone through exclusively you fucking idiot. It's something everyone who's nerdy in high-school goes through.

Now let me tell you the other side of that. The truth is, a lot of us got picked on a lot in high-school because we fucking deserved it. We played Dragon Ball at recess, we made mouth-noises to emulate energy blasts, we talked non-stop about video games, or anime, or D&D, and we acted like fucking autists all the god damn time. Many of us couldn't even tell when a girl thought we were cute, and trust me when I say, we were all given plenty of chances.

But most of us grew up, and realized that just as much as you don't want to hear about your co-workers community basket-ball game, they don't want to hear about your fucking D&D campaign, unless they've shown an interest. But there were those of us who didn't grow up. There were those who just kept on talking to people who DIDN'T FUCKING CARE about their latest D&D campaign. And somehow, these idiots thought that by not conforming to POLITE SOCIAL ETIQUETTE, they were being "hardcore". They suddenly thought they were better than everyone because they were still acting like god-damn elementary school kids pretending to be Naruto.

Guess what you autist, if you run around with your arms behind your back and a Naruto headband on, YOU DESERVE TO GET MADE FUN OF. If you can't see the humor in that, YOU DESERVE IT.

Just because you went through the same shit we ALL did, doesn't make you any better than any of us. We all got picked on in elementary/high-school.

>>45012133
>We all got picked on in elementary/high-school.

Not all of us. At least, not for all of it. I started playing football, and when you make all-state as a lineman, the people calling you nerd and stuff like that kind of go away.

>>45012133
>and trust me when I say, we were all given plenty of chances.

Speak for yourself.

>>45012133
Nice projecting.

>>45012275
>>45012285

Ugh, the victim mentality in this community is just as bad as tumblr. Go write a fucking blog post about how marginalized D&D players are you special snowflake.

>>45012343

What is it with people wanting to be a victim these days? Has society changed so much that it's good for other people to treat you like shit? Or is it just malingering, hoping someone will believe you and give you special treatment because of your horrible life?

Honestly, my issue with this mass appeal is that it always dilutes hobbies. Specialist games become less produced while lowest common denominator garbage gets pumped out for cheap profit.
Nothing good comes from mass appeal

>>45012343

> ugh
> bad as tumblr

Yeah okay. You need to go back there faggot.

And I don't have a victim complex, but your point about "lol lots of girls liked you in high school but you ignored them" is patently false.

> Go write a fucking blog post about how marginalized D&D players are you special snowflake.

They aren't. See that's the thing, no one gave a shit about being "marginalized," we just enjoyed playing our game. But then everyone else started sticking their nose in it and making hipster podcasts about it, and having it played by fucking Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day, and it just became embarassing. Like having your dad open the door on your masturbating into a teddy bear. You're enjoying it, it's fun, but why does everyone else have to look at it all of the sudden?

>>45012429

Cars have mass appeal. Something good came from that.

Computers have mass appeal. I dare say that you think the internet is a good thing, what with using it in your leisure time.

Books have mass appeal. Since most of the games you play are in books, I guess that means you think they are a good thing.

Shall I continue, or will you now accept that you're just whining to have something to whine about?

>>45007991
Tell me about it. How does anyone put up with the guys who can't tell the difference between cane sugar and corn syrup, don't know the definition of a cola, and think that Mountain Dew Throwback is obscure? The kind that have never even HEARD of Virgil's or Root 66 or tasted actual sarsaparilla? And they're still all 'HURR DURR I LIKE SODA."

Filthy. Fucking. Casuals.

>>45012376

Stop projecting. No one here wants to be a victim except yourself. No one else here is pandering for sympathy. But when you act like "lol everyone who gets bullied deserves it" and projecting your own idiotic Naruto behavior onto others, you will get called out on it, and you will get BTFO as you just did.

>>45012376

I have no idea honestly. I think it has to do with the entire "there are no losers" thing that a lot of us experienced in elementary/high-school. A lot of people haven't gotten as much experience with failure and ridicule during their formative years as maybe our parents, and especially our grandparents did. When they make it to the real world, the only way they know how to cope with criticism, or the harsh realities of the world is by becoming a victim to it, rather than taking the challenge head on.

I also think it's part of the human condition too. People have a hard time even comprehending how someone wouldn't enjoy an activity that they might enjoy, yet are quick to judge others on activities that they themselves don't enjoy.

There are certainly plenty of people in this community who seem to adopt this kind of mindset though, and I don't just mean /tg/, I mean 4chan as a whole. It's funny, because a lot of people here act like internet tough-guys, but in the end a lot of them are just as whiny and trigger by mundane shit as tumblr is.

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>>45012460

So you're saying that you liked gaming before it was popular, and it's just so whatever now that others are getting into it? I have heard something like that before, somewhere.

>>45012476

Nigger, what? I am not the person you think I am, apparently. I never aid anything about Naruto, or said everyone who gets bullied deserves it. Maybe you should re-check your reply chains or something.

>>45012376
>Has society changed
No.

The answer to your question is nearly always no.

>>45012471
>cars have mass appeal
Doing mechanic work doesn't have mass appeal

>computers have mass appeal
The internet existed before computers were even remotely popular and the Internet was far better when it was a bunch of middle aged sysadmins using it.
>books have mass appeal
A good book hasn't come out in 60~ years

>>45008920
but IT IS their fault, what are you talking about?

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>>45012609
>A good book hasn't come out in 60~ years
No, anon. You're just illiterate.

>>45012609

>>45012609

>Doing mechanic work doesn't have mass appeal
Tell that to Automotive Technical Institute and SAE.

>The internet existed before computers were even remotely popular
So? How does that change the fact that the internet came from the mass appeal (to academics) of computers?

>and the Internet was far better when it was a bunch of middle aged sysadmins using it.

Which Starbucks do you ironically work at again?

>A good book hasn't come out in 60~ years

I'll be sure to pass that on to Alex Haley.

Also, does that mean the games you play aren't good? Why do you take part in a hobby you don't enjoy anon? Is it because you're so hardcore?

>>45012476
>>45012285

There's that word again "projecting".

Fucking internet armchair psychologist at work. You have no idea what projecting is, you're just using it as a catch-all term against my idea that people who are "hardcore" about D&D need to grow the fuck up.

Sorry that the truth hurts so much.

>>45010712
What stories? /efg/ is just futa pics and fags whining about the lack of stories/how weaboo everything is now

>>45012845
Stay mad.

You all fill me with great shame.

>>45012845
Except what you are doing is the very definition of projecting. You are taking your experience and your problems and assuming that everyone else must also have the same issues.

>>45005958
That's a lot of fucking assumptions right there.

>>45005783
Stop wasting words so many words on a post that's just window dressing on a continuum fallacy faggot.

>>45012954

I'm not projecting as some kind of defense mechanism because I'm insecure about my own childhood you dolt. Projection typically refers to emotional states of mind, not shared experiences.

I'm saying that if you're here, posting on /tg/, you probably come from a similar walk of life as a lot of the other people here. I used my own experiences as a fucking EXAMPLE.

Generalizing? Yes. Projecting? No.

>>45012915
You'd rather we filled you with cum?

>>45011855
Well yeah, the rhetoric has of coursed influenced the development of my generation (which I openly recognize and work hard to counteract) but back in the 90's there were actual legitimate grievances that non-white Americans and female Americans had in American society. It wasn't on par with Emancipation, the Civil Rights movement, and Sufferage or anything, but there was still some pretty hefty discrimination against non-white and female Americans in a workplace environment, especially here in Texas.

>>45012133

Well put. Couldn't agree more.

>>45011689
Wait, is this a bait counter to counter-bait a bait counter to an autistic outburst, or are you trying to be serious and not seeing the obvious bait?

The whole "don't blame your bad social skills on mental illness" meme makes me sad

People who believe in free will make me sad. You don't choose who you are or what your struggles will be, and even though your choices may determine how you feel, you didn't choose to feel how you did when you made the decision

People who are self righteous will point to the moment when somebody made the wrong decision and say "see that moment, you should feel bad about yourself because of that moment", and they ignore the forces that conspired together to create that decision

There is no difference between somebody with depression and somebody "who just needs to suck it up and work on their social skills"

It's the same shit, everything you do is because of your brain, one way of interpreting depression just makes not depressed people feel better about themselves, "it's their fault", "if they had just been more like me they wouldn't be depressed"

>>45014291
If you don't believe in free will, why are you trying to argue with us? You know it won't make a difference.