Secret Sideboard Tech edition
What's your favorite sideboard card?
What's a sideboard card you believe is underrated or underplayed?
Twin players never see it coming, but it also good against generic aggro and tempo
>Twin player trying to combo when the opponent has 2 mana open and they can't counter possible removal.
Maybe you should try playing with people that have more brains than money? But I suppose a meta in which players play and lose to freaking batwing brume is bound to be filled with inbreds.
What I am saying that no fucking twin player worth their salt is going to go for the combo kill when the opponent has mana open and cards in hand unless they can have enough mana and a counter to combat possible removal or fogs or rakdos charms or whatever.
The deck has existed since the format was made yet so few people it seem know how to play or how to play against it even to this freaking day.
Going to test this as a 1of in Melira. Shame I can only cast it with Gavony and I am not convinced this gives you better value than a Ewitt.
Depending on the colours you're running there are always cards you can use. Grove of the Burnwillows makes colourless. I suppose it has uses when Viscera Seer lets you put anything on top. Just put Blood Artist on top, sac Matter Reshaper, and kill your opponent.
Been packing a few of these in Kiki-chord and its fucking great. Usually a one-sided board wipe, plus it kills Goyfs, Tasigurs and Rhinos. The life gain is basically irrelevant.
It's a good idea.
Consider Fulminator Mage if you can play the staring contest game and like getting in your opponent's head by not saccing right away.
If people just play Fulminator Mage to sac immediately though, then Molten Rain is better.
Pic related for favorite Sideboard card, shit covers so many decks.
Underrated Sideboard card for me is Exquisite Firecraft. Twin never sees it coming.
i made a thing
the concept of the deck is to make sure the opponent understand blue and white is for No fun allowed only
fuck other people's fun
Exquisite Firecraft should be in the mainboard desu senpai. It's your curve topper. They finally get counterspell mana, then you tap the only 3 land you ever wanted to see this game anyway and vomit uncounterable damage onto the table.
Don't you just love it when Wizards powers up T1 decks with even more uninteractive powerful cards?
Speaking of secret sideboard tech, why doesn't UR Twin run something like Blood Moon?
It seems like a pretty shit card, but 3-4 colour kids literally never tech to handle it, causes so much rage.
Some people were talking about Dega/Mardu midrange last thread and I drafted up a list.
Dega Midrange (Modern):
4 Young Pyromancer
Instants and Sorceries: 26
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lightning Helix
4 Lingering Souls
3 Crackling Doom
1 Timely Reinforcements
Other Spells: 6
4 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
20w 19b 15r
4 Shambling Vent
4 Marsh Flats
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Blood Crypt
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Godless Shrine
2 Ghost Quarter
17w 17b 13r
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Stony Silence
2 Rest in Peace
2 Kor Firewalker
2 Anger of the Gods
2 Baneslayer Angel
1 Celestial Purge
1 Wear // Tear
1 Oblivion Ring
Should I buy the pieces to this? I'm only missing Blood Crypt, Shamblimg Vent, Sorin, and Bitterblossom. About 100$ worth of stuff.
>tfw just getting bopped by everyone because I cant afford retardedly expensive mana bases now
just fuck my shit up wizards
fuck no, it isnt fast at all, its weak to removal, has little removal itself, a hunch of weak cards and will get stomped by tron, twin, Affinity, infect , jund, merfolk and infect with ease. you might snipe a game off like living end or something but i really doubt it. how new are you to competetive magic?
Fairly new, I played games with this deck against my friends and pretty much always won, but beyond that i've never played at an FNM. My cards aren't weak for the reasons I stated before, the deck is quite powerful and can easily win by turn 8.
What are your friend's playing? I guarantee you it isn't any of the decks we're talking about
I genuinely believe this guy has no idea what he's talking about and it's probably fine to help him.
What do I SB for bloom? I could rebuild the manabase to play Blood Moon, but that leaves me without man lands.
Also, do you think Pyromancer is the best choice for a MD creature? I'd like to run something tougher but there aren't a lot of options at 2 mana. I could cut timely reinforcements and try Brimaz or something.
It looks like you have a fairly slow deck, so you need some way to not just die to a topdeck. Your only interaction is discard, which does not hit the top of their deck. I don't think there's any reason to play RWB, it feels worse than BW tokens and I don't see the upside
modern is full of decks that can win by turn 4, and decks that are built to stop those decks from winning by turn 4 and dicking them slowly. your deck doesn't have the power or speed to beat either. modern is a very competitive format and casual decks just can't keep up I'm afraid.
Posting here for some help, I came into possession of 2 of this guy. Are there any decent decks I can build around him? Money isn't an issue
How well can you handle this guy?
What if I told you you'll be seeing it on turn three?
>Worrying about Bloom with the upcoming bans
Look, I play a casual deck that wins by turn 5. Its literally a "modernised" standard deck, but its nowhere near powerful enough to be competitive.
When I play Elves and I know you dont have removal (or not much), I do this
T1 - Land, Elvish Mystic/Llanowar elves
T2 - Land, Nettle Sentinel, Heritage Druid. Use heritage Druid ability, Dwynens Elite, floating 1 mana. Untap Nettle sentinel. Use floated mana to play a second Nettle Sentinel. Play the rest of my hand, including a Collected Company or Lead the Stampede as my Nettle Sentinels constantly untap whenever I play a green spell, which is my entire deck. I now have about 15 creatures on the field, hopefully around 30 mana available to just use whenever, and the ability to win next turn. Its entirely possible if I get 2 Shaman of the Pack to just win the game there
T3 - Turn everything sideways. Possibly activating Ezuri multiple times, making all my creatures having +3/+3 and trample for every activation, meaning they all potentially have +12/+12.
Can your deck win faster than this or defeat this by tearing it apart "slowly"? Even control decks in modern, like Tokens or Jeskai control, can win in 5 turns if they have to. Whenever I play with this deck casually, I win, unless im playing against similar bullshit.
Go to a casual general if you want casual advice. If you just want to win, this is the place
Um, IoK and thoughtsize, along with path and you're scared about it with twin? This list would utterly rape twin, and would have more problems with burn and zoo, then you seem to think it would.
You have removal and discard, but against the deck with draw you will eventually lose. The deck is all removal, zoo seems easy. Burn maybe not, but huge piles of chump blockers is pretty powerful against zoo.
That's not what we play on turn 3, anon
>What's your favorite sideboard card?
Pic Related (Also very funny when you're the MUD player going against Miracles and this lands)
>What's a sideboard card you believe is underrated or underplayed?
Why don't your Liliana decks run Uba Mask anon?
Pretty much. Something that deploys threats and backs it up with counters, discard, board wipes.
Same concept as above really. Just slower than delver.
I still play grixis sometimes. I don't quite know how to make it better though.
No, you literally dont. This isnt amulet Bloom, which requires you to have 6 cards which are correct to win turn 1 or 2. Any hand with a heritage Druid in it is keepable, any hand with 1 of 8 manadorks in it is keepable, you only need 1 land to win the game.
You play out your hand pretty much every game by turn 2 or 3. The difficulty is in then either having a lead the Stampede, collected company or enough Elvish visionaries to get to more creatures, which you have about 80 percent of the tine
You dont Mulligan this deck often, because just having cards to play is better than having the right cards more often than not
So little kid abzan never really took off, but McClains video on CFB tonight made it look like a pretty sturdy deck.
Is this deck actually pretty trash compared to regular Abzan?
It seems like it could have better game against these new Eldrazi meme decks, as little kid abzan is faster.
Anyone want to give me their two cents? I'm all ears.
These autismos arguing about pointless shit gave me a Fun™ group idea!
Take a modern deck, whichever one you prefer, and shuffle & draw 7. type the hand and whether you would keep or mull. then do it 9 more times to get a rough idea of how often you mulligan and what a keepable hand looks like.
Instead of telling us about it, do it alone, in the dark.
Been away from Modern since just after Origins. Anything meta shakeups? Anything from Zendikar 2 worth using?
Any other Eldrazi Meme players out there that can't wait to slam this on people turn 2
>Hand 1: stomping ground, wooded foothills, swamp, fulminator mage, simian spirit guide, wooded foothills, street wraith
Risky but keep. SSG for a T2 fulminator mage is brutal. buys me time to dig.
>Hand 2: blood crypt, architects of will, bloodstained mire, deadshot minotaur, demonic dread, demonic dread, demonic dread
Yuck. 3x demonic dread is a mulligan. maybe consider keeping in a game 2 against decks with thoughtseize/iok/etc?
>Hand 3: street wraith, beast within, overgrown tomb, monstrous carabid, deadshot minotaur, simian spirit guide, architects of will
Yeah that's a keeper. one land but I can dig 4 cards here.
>Hand 4: demonic dread, beast within, monstrous carabid, demonic dread, simian spirit guide, street wraith, deadshot minotaur
Mulligan because no lands, but honestly I can dig 2 with what's there. I went ahead and tried it and hit a land which would have let me keep going. too risky to keep in a real game though.
>Hand 5: treetop village, fulminator mage, bloodstained mire, shriekmaw, wooded foothills, demonic dread, deadshot minotaur
I'm going to stop here because it takes longer than I expected and 10 is too fucking much god damn son.
eldrazi became a modern deck and it's retarded as fuck but it actually works. everyone initially wrote it off as worse-tron but it plays a lot different. it has a lot of interaction where tron is all about digging for pieces and steamrolling with sheer power.
Did this 15 times with ad nauseam of which I mulliganed 5 times. Of the five mulligans, two were very easy mulligans: one hand with seven lands and another hand with 0 lands, and the other three were more difficult choices.
Keepable hands seemed to have atleast two of the following in addition to having atleast two lands: cantrip, ramp, ad nauseam or spoils, angel's grace or unlife.
Eldrazi creatures combined with all the old Eldrazi lands from Zendikar 1 are being crammed together to make this weird as fuck deck. It's pretty good although is still rather weak to aggro, but it's still getting new tools piled on by the truckload with the new set coming out
>go to twitch to see if anyone is streaming modern game play
>stream at very bottom of list
>"Mirrodin set review"
>curiosity makes me click
>overweight neckbeard is just going down every single card from mirrodin on gatherer and talking about it
>every. single. card.
>even the fucking vanilla creatures
>and nobody is watching, this dude has apparently just been sitting here talking to himself for hours about this
It's autistic but I can't even laugh at it, it's just sad. I wish I hadn't looked. I wish I could unsee this.
>First Hand: Pendelhaven, Inkmoth Nexus, Wooded Foothills, Windswept Heath, Rancor, Glistner Elf
I might actually keep this because a turn 1 elf into a turn 2 rancor + Pendelhaven trigger puts on a lot of pressure and forces removal for the inkmoth to swoop in. Still risky but might be ok for a game 1. The next three cards were another Nexus and then Forest + Groundswell which is enough to cinch a game 1.
>Second Hand: Wooded Foothills, Inkmoth Nexus, Blighted Agent, Gitaxian Probe, Apostle's Blessing, Noble Hierarch, Serum Visions
Despite lacking in pump spells, the double cantrips plus the blessing and agent make this a great hand, along with the Inkmoth. Has potential to win from pure attrition if it can survive turn 1 and 2. Probe would get me another nexus and visons would grab me a mutagenic growth, then scry into a heath and elf which I'd throw on the bottom or keep the elf if one of my guys was killed off. The next card after that was Become Immense so it really paid off to keep that hand.
I'm not doing any more because fuck that takes a lot more time than I thought
He's in a weird situation. He's trying to get shit up and running so it's not like he can just sit there doing nothing until someone shows up and then just be like "oh hey lets start again" whenever he sees the number go back to 1. He has to still do this like he means it or else no one will take him seriously and keep watching.
The dumbass should just stick to MTGO gameplay until he has a decent viewerbase though instead of doing awkward shit like this
eh, it's background noise when I'm doing something else and I'm caught up on all my shows and stuff. Watching good players is always good if you're looking to get better at the game or a certain deck
>implying there are grills on 4chan
the thing with Goyf decks is that they're probably not even as good in general as snapcaster decks. I wouldn't waste your time since Jund and Abzan aren't doing as well as their price should suggest. Just build Affinity and go to town on people or build Tron and feel the POWAH
Well you already have a strong competitive deck.
Maybe I could interest you in something on the dark side of modern? It's much stronger than it looks if you were goldfish it.
i won legacy night with UR Twin tonight.
>2-1 blue stax
>2-0 grixis delver
turns out brainstorm, ponder, force, etc. are rly gud cardz.
x16 Typical Eldrazi Squad
x3 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
x4 Inquisition of Kozilek
x3 Talisman of Dominance
x3 Expedition Map
x4 Relic of Progenitus
x1 Scrabbling Claws
x1 Bajuka Bog
x2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
x2 Eye of Ugin
x4 Eldrazi Temple
x2 Cavern of Souls
x2 Ghost Quarter
x4 Darkslick Shores
x4 Polluted Delta
x2 Watery Grave
might just make it mono black Eldrazi Spells only with all the cool upgrades from the next set. Gonna totally add more Caverns and the new Eldrazi Mana Confluence along with that white bounce Eldrazi and Thought-Naught
Most stax builds struggle with removing permenants, outside of smokestack. And i seriously can't see delver ever loosing to that list. Please, try to resolve your 4 mana spell.
On a related note, i just won an onslaught flooded strand with Grixis delver tonight. Ended up having to power through dredge twice.
>How does delver loose to this?
game 1 i combo'd on 4. surprise! it's modern night!
game 2 i exhausted his resources, winning through wasteland, stifle and multiple cabal therapy with judicious use of brainstorm and ponder, sandbagged the 4th land, resolved an exarch, threw one copy of twin away to countermagic, fired off ponder and set my draw step to be twin (i knew there was a second twin because i had brainstormed one away the previous turn)
>And i'd think you'd have a relatively hard time with stax.
really depends on opening hands. pretty much have to have force+blue card for chalice. null rod and shatterstorm do a lot of work here shutting off monolith, etc. or killing everything. if he gets the engine going and you can't answer it in a turn or two you're properly fucked, though.
shops got a couple volcs sitting at 180. might pick them up, but i rarely actually go to events due to work. might be worth, might not be. besides, duals don't win games. brainstorm wins games.
There is exactly one way to play Mardu:
>4 Bolt, 4 Helix
>4 Butcher of the Horde,
>4 Lingering Souls
>3 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
>2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
>23 Land, 1 must be Vault of the Archangel
You instantly concede to Tron, 8Rack, Lantern, Grixis Control and non-creature combos but have aggro and Twin in the pocket, other midrange are 50/50 games. Pray for good matches.
Could be a deck packed with discard, bolts and removal.
He's hard as fuck to remove if he never becomes a creature and you can fill your sideboard with more burn to fuck Tron's ass.
Basically, you're only drawing one card a turn. So you aren't going to be smashing in for 12 after untapping with mentor, its less like an insane young pyro and more like a slow young pyro
his stifles, waste and therapy.
game 1 went 'i ignore your board and jam turn 3 exarch turn 4 twin with force backup and see what happens'.
game 2 went land-go for 2 turns so i could actually get a basic island on-line through stifle. pondered off that and saw exarch, twin, mountain while holding sulfur falls. land-go again, this time he plays a delver. land-go one more time, then delver got tapped by exarch in response to his brainstorm on upkeep, flipped and got to attack once and had a pestermite flashed in front of it. he did get a peezy on line eventually and stripped force and bolt out of my hand (seeing falls, ponder, counterspell and snapcaster as well) couple more turns of ponders and brainstorms allowed me to set up a twin combo with his hand being [underground sea, unknown] just taking hits from elemental tokens. i ended the game there at 6-ish life.
it's not impossible to win with it. it has lots of game, as a matter of fact.
>evasive creatures and jitte
desu it plays like a stoneblade deck that uses an instant win combo instead of cheating batterskulls into play alongside regular beats, bolts and jace to win the game. it's less 'does he have it' than sneak and show (or showtime RIP digs) and more playing fair magic until you can get the sucker punch in.
>2x Blood Crypt
>4x Bloodstained Mire
>4x Marsh Flats
>2x Smoldering Marsh
>4x Kolaghan's Command
>4x Lightning Bolt
>4x Victim of Night
>4x Liliana of the Veil
>4x Inquisition of Kozilek
>2x Phyrexian Arena
>4x Mogis, God of Slaughter
Tried this, it almost doesn't suck but ends up sucking because Mogis is a shit wincon.
The same deck with a reliable non-creature wincon would be business tho.
I have one of these sitting in my trade binder that is maybe only 70 or so cards. There's only good shit in my binder, not the trash that doesn't even see play in kitchen table.
This fucking thing has been sitting in it since the day it came out in FTV and nobody's wanted it. If someone offered me $30 in cards for this thing I probably would take the deal. I can't believe it's more economical for me to just sell this thing to online retailers - maybe that's the whole fucking point of these buy outs; ramp up prices, incentivize players to restock you for no effort.
God, I don't even know why this is happening. I gave up years ago questioning why these card prices go up like this. It makes me sick to think people have the capital to speculate on the fucking Magic market. It's hard enough making money through conventional stocks and savings.
>TFW you bought Scalding Tarns at $50 and now they're over $100
I've been thinking about this Eldrazi tempo deck with Mimics, Thought-Knot Seers and Reality Smashers.
As an end game piece I was looking at Endbringer since it looks like a value machine.
Ancient Stirrings to find whatever you need.
I don't know what else though, Expedition Map seems way too slow for this type of deck.
Nobody even trades for high-cost singles. I have a ton of EDH, Legacy, and Modern staples that just rot in my binder. I didn't go out of my way to get them either. Nobody wants them at the three stores I visit.
Look at the Expeditions. Every time someone opens one everyone says, "Good luck getting rid of that." And it's true.
I bought my Tarns at $12 post-rotation. I thought they were expensive then. I still think $12 is expensive for a card. I seriously think you'd have to have brain damage to buy-in to a top-tier Modern deck nowadays.
How does Scalding Tarn, a card that sees play in at least 25% of any metagame where it is legal only be $100 with one printing but Tarmogoyf is $200 and sees play in like, four decks in its entire legality and has been printed three times.
Shit just doesn't make sense.
I don't really like it. To me it looked bad a year ago, and still does. Splashing black for Rhinos and a couple of Thoughtseizes seems terrible for any aggro deck. I would prefer either a more streamlined GW aggro deck (ala hatebears) or to just go full Junk Midrange.
While Hatebears is still considered shit tier, it does have potential. I.e. Ghost Quarter in particular seems nice vs. the meme Eldrazi deck and the increased play of manlands.
This is true on the Expeditions. I pulled a Polluted Delta in a fat pack and was more irritated that I didn't pull a good and actually playable card. Luckily I managed to dump it off Ebay for $287
Might also be that Goyf would see more play if it was less expensive as it in many cases is the best, most aggressive, option for that slot, but also fairly replacable and whatever advantage it would give you in certain matchups is fairly marginal.
Of course, now that main deck Relics are an actual thing in Modern Goyf might actually lose some popularity in favour of other options, though even if that happened I suspect it won't drop in price immediately because would still be reluctant to get rid of them.
In fact it has gotten so silly, that 'Goyf is treated just like a hundred Euro (sue me) bill. Both my LGS owning acquaintance and a Magic wholesale picker (a guy who started out buying collections and flipping them) I know, just put any copy they obtain into a binder and sell it off as their paycheck whenever it's filled.
Goyf sees no play simply because strategies that focus on turning creatures sideways aren't effective unless they happen to have over thirty to a million of them.
Personally if you ask me turning creatures sideways really loses it's appeal. It doesn't matter if you're turning a Goyf or Goblin Guide and see 25% of life totals disappear per combat step, it's a thoroughly explored experience for most players.
exarch does a pretty good yoked ox impression if they're trying to hit you with agents or mongoose.
hymn and lilly seem pretty awful to deal with but your dudes having flash (aside from nemesis) can somewhat mitigate these effects and they might just not be playing the full boat of abrupt decays to readily disrupt your combo in g1.
canadian threshold stifle-waste-etc-you plan is a nightmare for a lot of decks but i think we have enough basics, yoked ox, bolt, etc. to not be 100% dead in the water like a lot of lists could be in that scenario. rug is exceedingly efficient at what it does, so just play to your outs and don't tilt-scoop.
Fucking Tarn makes me so sad. I'm running plebe-level Flooded Strands + Polluted Delta in Grixis Control because I refuse to buy them until they're reprinted. C'mon Innistrad 2.0. Suck less than Zendi 2.0.
You do have outs, but it still looks like an uphill battle. If they assemble the full mana denial package and you stumble, by the time your 3 drops resolve it could be close. I would bet on any BUG list or RUG delver in the MU.
>wanting Standard to have fetchable duels and fetches at the same time again
As you can see right now, that only leads to 4-5 color good stuff that costs a near fortune to buy into.
Sudden price hikes like that usually don't last long. Sometimes it's someone screwing with market, but it can also be screw-ups in pricing algorithms. Meta-shifts on the other hand will cause prices to stay changed
I pulled a foil Tarmogoyf about four years ago. I barely even knew what it was at the time, just knew that the name was familiar.
That card got me to work by public transport for a month when I had no other money.
Holy shit, this thing is crazy
>it doesn't say nonland
Went 3-2 tonight for Modern
Got in the top 8 and lost to Grixis
The tokens player got incredibly salty when I won. It was hilarious. I said good games and he said "no they weren't. I would have destroyed you had I gotten another land." And then he dropped lol. Overall a pretty good night with some good matches.
this is something that's really annoying to me as someone who plays rakdos charm a lot
twin players just dropping a twin and saying "you're dead" but then if I tell them to tell me exactly what they are doing they play real conservative
I'm playing burn. He archive trapped me for 13 and then glimpse the unthinkable. The nail in the coffin was the card that mills you till you get 4 lands and all my lands were on the bottom of my library pretty much. He also had a card that exiles all creatures from a yard and gains 3 life for each one and I had no skullcrack effect for a response.
Plus there's no real sideboard cards I could have used against him. It was ok. I probably won't see the deck again and without that crypt incursion he would have lost. I'm just happy I got top 8. I'm al so going to modern fnm tonight for another chance to play and improve.
My burn sideboard card is kor firewalker as leyline generally just hits a revelry which is exactly how I won against tokens tonight as they dropped a leyline late game and I responded with a revelry for lethal. I wouldn't run leyline for a matchup that isn't very common like mill.
>tfw just bought ten playsets a couple weeks ago when wastes was announced
I want you guys to remember that while you (you know who you are) were bickering about "muh anus mana", someone out there earned some blatantly free money and you didn't.
But it isn't. Fetches and Shocklands are irreplaceable. Tronlands are irreplaceable. Decks that play them can't function without them. A deck that normally plays Goyf functions more or less the same without it. It might have a slightly worse matchup against a deck like Burn, but it's certainly still a playable deck even without the Goyf.
Creatures were never that good in early Magic days. If it had been printed fifteen years ago it would only have been worse in the sense that the permanents you might flip onto the table when it dies would have been weaker than the ones you might flip onto the table now.
So just like EDH then? Primeval Titan isn't the best turn 1 reanimation target, and Sol Ring ramping you into him stupidly fast was the real reason his ramp turned problematic, but Primeval Titan still got the axe and not Sol Ring. You know, Sol Ring, the card that should be in the P9.
If you don't spend your pumps before damage, you leave yourself open to damage based removal in your 2nd main phase. Now you're having to spend pump spells just to keep your guy alive.
I used to be able to go to Midweek Magic on Wednesdays. It worked so-so with my work schedule, because every other week I wouldn't be able to get there until about half-an-hour late at the best. Much of this was because they started very early on account of it being put in the middle of the week -- as it turns out, people have jobs to go to the day after and therefore can't stay well into the night to play Magic.
>Don't you guys want to go out with friends over the weekend?
So don't go to FNM every week? When I go it is usually to meet my Magic playing friends and spend some time with them.
Ironically, you're wrong because BFZ contained a strictly better Sowing Salt.
The eldrazi meme deck takes advantage of the BFZ eldrazi mechanic of using exiled cards to fuel effects. In Standard, it is shit as there are few ways to exile cards as effectively as modern can. In modern, you have cards like bojuka bog, relic of progenitus, and nihil spellbomb to build up their exile pile which is fodder for effects that are rather powerful when you can reliably use them such as blightherder (5 mana 4/5 that gives you 3 scions/mana), and wasteland strangler (3 mana 3/2 that -3/-3's a creature). On top of that, you can get a lot of use out of oblivion sower which can ramp you a ton of mana for Ulamog by taking your opponent's exiled lands, not to mention the eldrazi lands from the first zendikar block like eye of ugin and eldrazi temple further boosting the power level and speed of the deck.
With the new colorless mana mechanic, modern eldrazi, will be even stronger as colorless mana sources are much more plentiful in modern than in standard.
>tfw painlands will be making a comeback if Eldrazi become an even bigger meme
Rakdos charm out of the board in Grixis Control against Twin. Use the deal damage to players equal to the number of creatures. They get super scared of everything after you do that to them.
Different Eurofag here. I wouldnt start celebrating yet. When the first wave of RG Tron and Little Kid Abzan got hyped, SCG went on a buying rampage on MCM. My own stock has been bought out two times by Ben Bleiweiss.
>people shit over BFZ more than over
a gas station toilet
>cool, budget t2 deck based around BFZ mechanics and creatures becomes fairly popular in modern
>>"eldrazis are ebin Wizard memes ded game back to le Reddit xD"
0 graveyard hate, I swear I just want to run more bolts in the board over rest in peace but I could probably get a rakdos charm in my side without much effort
do you think any good record comes without opponent misplays or good draws?
my game versus bloom is literally spam thoughtseize and liliana +1 and hope they don't topdeck. Half the match-ups are roulette for any midrange
Suffer the Past is crazy good sideboard tech in a Cruel Control type deck. Acts as a finisher if you need it to, gains you a ton of life if you need it to or just fucks over a snapcaster mage for 2 mana. Super versatile and I'm almost never unhappy to see it when it's in my hand.
Yeah t1 raging ravine seemed like jund hut then he played ancient stirrings and dropped an urza's tower. Streamer was kinda wtf about it too.
If you can't afford groves why not just use the fucking RG painland. Damn.
So the problem with having Fog effects (or Rakdos Charm/Brume) as sideboard tech against Twin is that you have to hold up mana for it and they can interact with it and they're suspecting it.
So lets say you hold up mana for Brume or Rakdos Charm. That means that you aren't deploying your threats. That means you aren't pressuring them. They only risk comboing off when they have significant risk of dying or when they know the coast is clear. The deck runs Dispel and Remand. If it can afford to hold those up, it will.
Cards like Slaughter Pact or Illness in the Ranks or Suppression Field are WAY better against Twin because they are difficult to interact with in multiple ways and allow you to keep playing out your game plan without needing to hold up mana.
I just play dumb, and act like I don't know what they mean. They then have to explain what they did, so when I cast the spell, they clearly already declared attack. It only works once, but that one time is often a blowout.
herplay tron and jund. Neither players were very good, so sherightfully won. Deck seemed fine though. Don't like bitterblossom though, it's almost never very threatening.
I usually like it when I'm up against decks that are trying to grind 1 for 1s all game and go to topdeck. Also just jamming it out turn 2 against control feels like you won the game if you can avoid getting snap bolted and out-control them
All of Oath has been spoiled, what cards caught your eye for modern play? For me they were.
Matter Reshaper (value)
Warping Wail (It's weird but it's cheap and has utility which is a winning combination)
Reflector Mage (Cute, might fit in Emeria I guess but not much else for this guy really, I just like him)
Stormchaser Mage (Swiftspear's brother, not convinced but it does look good on paper)
Natural State(Nature's Claim is better but maybe this slot in sideboards of aggro decks?)
Goblin Dark-Dwellers (Value, maybe as a 1-of in Jund)
If the Eldrazi decks turn out to be more than just fotm I think Though-Knot Seer will see play in them.
Maybe also Reality Smasher and new Kozilek, but I'm not entirely convinced.
i'm not sold on it yet but I've been thinking of testing dark-dwellers as a 1-of in living end. he can cast any instant/sorcery in the deck from the yard and the games where I don't manage to win after the first living end and devolve into a grind fest he can give me an upper hand with a surprise beast within or a demonic dread. relevant body too. or at the least 3RR: cast living end from graveyard. useful for games where living end gets countered the first time.
it sounds okay but I'm not going to hold my breath. will take some time before I can find out if I hate it every time I draw it.
needs a better gimmick. winning on the back of a crusader because it's hard to remove is okay, but if you're losing UG's insane speed you better have something else the deck excels at to back it up, and I can't think of anything.
Yeah, but wait till you play against competent players. Goyf is weak because of bajuka/relic and that creatures that makes those little tokens stops you right in your track. It doesn't kill jund, but it slows them down enough to cast ulamog.
personally I'm rooting for the buyout jews, if things get bad enough Wotc might be browbeat into answering all the complaints about modern prices and at least answer whether they will or wont reprint high demand staples.
I been brewin
1 Mosswort Bridge
4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
4 Ghost Quarter
4 Llanowar Wastes
2 Sea Gate Wreckage
2 Jund Panorama (there's probably something better)
4 Eldrazi Mimic
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Reality Smasher
1 Kozilek, The Great Distortion
4 Ancient Stirrings
3 Sylvan Scrying
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Nature's Claim so you don't get fucked by Blood Moon
Warping Wail for Twin mostly
Life from the Loam
Gimme those hot opinions
look at the median price. shit is selling fast and hard. think I'll go order another set of thoughtseizes before those get hit.
where do they get the fucking money for this shit? they have to buy several hundred copies of the card to pull off real buyouts like we're seeing, how the fuck do they fund this shit
Its a bunch of people doing it. Probably not cooperating intentionally but when they see it start to rise they all rush to get copies.
Also it wasnt printed in OGW like people speculated so demands up.
>Rakdos charm out of the board in Grixis Control against Twin.
Only works once, though.
On a related note: Altar of the Brood is the new Twin tech. Bridge got you down? Prison locking you out of combo swinging for a billion? Fuck that nerd, mill him out! Also make sure to note relevant cards while you're flipping his deck over. Never miss an opportunity to spy on his tech.
>someone asks in these threads "if you were going to buyout a card what would you pick"
>few days later scapeshift gets hit and goes from $20 to $40
oops. wonder if I helped poke a few panic buyers into action.
It was bound to happen, its a necessary four-of in fun tier 2 decks thats seen one printing. Plus RG Scapeshift has been picking up so theres that
I'll blame you anyways though
how big is that group? is it one group orchestrating all the buy outs? there have been a dozen+ buyouts of fairly expensive cards, that's still a lot of money for your average MTG player
it's starcity employees or people being fed information from their IQ circuit (decklists and results). you compile all that data and forecast the card market over the next quarter, then act on it.
>seller on MKM only has 3 MM2 Eye of Ugins so he's sending me 1 WWK one to complete my order
I just bit it and bought a playset of khans fetches. they're definitely not getting any cheaper. most standard staples do but these are every format staples.
they wont see a "buy out" they just have constant demand
This the only card I am somewhat liking, and even then I'll only run it as a one-of in Grixis Delver.
Sorry, but I just need to vent
>Go to FNM
>People draft Ori
>Open 2xNissa and build a very good B/G elf deck
>Lose 0-2 due to being flooded game one and screwed game 2
>Tell the other guy that he put some bad cards in his deck
>"AND YET I WON LOL"
>Tell him he's a retard
>"LOL AND YET I WON"
I'm done with this shit game, fuck it and fuck drafting
I often find myself with a gurmag or tasigur on the field but unable to get through for that last bit of damage against mid-range decks, this allows me to get that damage through without being a totally dead card otherwise thanks to the cantrip.
Was this your face
Because the metagame shifts after a ban. Its speculation that's going to end up with prices stabilizing after the announcement. My guess is that everything will go back down, and speculators will break even.
It's really good when it's good, but it's been on a down slide right now. Tons of fun to play too, but every match is a struggle. No easy wins with Jund which is why Im playing Twin rn.
Hey mtg general Im getting back into to magic and am looking to make a deck. Is there a guide or any recommended sites when it comes to buying cards online?
Finally got out of the house to play fnm modern. Look like a bum but whatever I'm clean. First round was against Tron. First match kept him from getting his pieces with counterspells then combo'd off, second match he had a slow hand but managed to blow up my blood moon and got a spellskite out. Still managed to combo off so it's whatever. I know you're all on the edge of your seats to hear what happens next so I'll let you know after next game.
Going to a fairly big modern event on Sunday. Should I play complete stompy or incomplete ug infect? My infect deck is missing 1 inkmoth, 1 pendelhaven, might or old krosas and twisted image SB. I could replace krosas with main board dismember, mutagenic growth and/or wild defiance.
Don't know much about the meta.