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Old thread: >>74170677

"Useful" /trb/ related links:
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Macca's official /trb/ database:
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Let's test how many newfriends a clear cut thread will attract
>implying clear cut means anything on /trb/
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>tfw losing sleep over red arrows
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>>74214947
release on a free m8
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Isn't this game Farming Simulator 2010 with worse graphics?
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>>74214963
The embarrassing thing is that FM has better economic modelling than sims that are supposed to be about selling stuff.
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>>74214963
you're the expert
>>74214965
>implying you don't sell modern day slaves in FM
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>>74214961
>tfw can't afford to terminate
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>>74214965
>implying this isn't all about creating a factory of regens to sell off
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>>74214965
I hate how true this statement is. Even though there are obvious flaws in FM, the values used are much more realistic than most games, which just often use fake values for grind and unlock gameplay. The biggest drawback of FM in that regard is the weird mix of values, that change, like attendance, and values, that don't really change, like the size and scope of transfers. Or economies on the whole, which is very hard to implement, why I can understand the way it's implemented right now - but I'm still pissed about the whole Brexit fuckery, because it directly contradicts this game design choice. Even more enraging is that it can't be turned off - and every other country in the game doesn't change in the least.
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I want a pure domination save. What top 4 team in a top 4 league should I play with? FM16 btw
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>>74214945
why is it so blurry?
>>74215016
Buyern, Juve or PSG, easy peasy
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>>74215020
Buyern or Juve, that's the question.
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Can we get some CL match predictions lads? Which tribbler knows his CL football the best?

PSG - Barcelona
Real Madrid - Napoli
Benfica - Dortmund
FC Bayern - Arsenal
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l
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>>74215101
o
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>>74215103
l
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>>74215070
Arsenal 5 - 2 Bayern
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>>74215215
Are you an Arsefan Mitch?
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>>74215070
0-2
3-0
2-1
2-0
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i have experienced every emotion ask me anything
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>>74215070
>PSG - Barcelona
1-3
>Real Madrid - Napoli
1-1
>Benfica - Dortmund
2-2
>FC Bayern - Arsenal
5-1
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never played fm touch but since i got it with 17 I'm gonna try installing it on my windows tablet and playing it at work. cheeky?
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> tfw you're looking for a few shit scouts just to improve your world knowledge and you find a decent cutie that will do just well
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>>74215265

ayy bby
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>>74215271
>>74215265
she's at Bilbao on my save

20 JPA
19 JPP

But just 7 DET
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>>74215265
damn she rejected me

bitch
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>>74215229
can you show me "Grief of a Sailor"?
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>>74215284

Just like real life i bet m8
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Finally won manager of the month in every tier of Swedish football.

Only took the flukiest month possible
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>Gabriel Jesus out for 2-3 months.
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>>74215373
rip hypetrain
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>scrap work permit
>scrap Bosman rule
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH
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>>74215373
>mfw all those people that transferred out Aguero for him in FF
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>>74215430
>that guy on the live text who had put Jesus as captain for his team and bet on him to score first
>it was his birthday too
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Social media is going to reach new heights next FM game, on this evidence
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>>74215539
It's a shame just how shallow MM is
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>>74215585
Yeah, having fun with it though and got it with the FM voucher so can't really complain. It's more for comfy than anything else
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>>74215595
I tried to start with the worst team but the improvements were so incremental that it wasn't fun.

I think the best way to play is to actually pick a team with some big expectations
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>>74215607
I picked the Japanese team that start with a small deficit (which is gone after you sign a couple of sponsors). I had a shit first race because I didn't realise that the second tier competition I was doing didn't allow refuelling which made both my drivers massively angry. We happened to have some wonderkid reserve driver who I promoted and which caused my other driver to "go rogue" because I sacked his mate. Can't do any improvements to anything in my tier so I'm just hoping the kid becomes good enough to start winning races eventually so we can build up cash reserves and promote.
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Man I hate mid season breaks so much
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>>74215373
Too soft for the Premier League
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>>74215782
It wasn't even from a challenge, he twisted it landing
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>>74215789
See

>>74215782
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>374 matches refereed this season
I'm genuinely impressed.

>>74215775
Your players could be breaking their legs in the snow and on ice, with multiple cup rounds cancelled for damaged pitch. At least that's what has been happening in my Slovenian saves when I decided to have 20 teams in the league and removed the winter break between December and February. Generally an undersoil heating system help mitigate that.
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>>74215805
It's the opposite la

Sweden has a month break in fucking June
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>>74215070
>>74215231
We are going to get exposed tonight. Tuchel is a talentless hack who ruins everything. I hope we'll get trashed 3-0 so that his sacking comes sooner. we can still qualify for the CL next year if we sack him early enough, but his cancer is going to kill our club's future if he stays.
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>>74215818

>We
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>>74215860
I'm a club member and a shareholder. What's your point?
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>>74215873
Didn't know Dortmund was in Turkey
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>Basel manager: "They were just lucky, we'll show them next time!"
Right, right. The annoying thing is that I likely won't finish third because they somehow completely destroyed Jorge Jesus' Barca 6-0.
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>>74215873

memes
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>Simeone still at madrid
Impressive

Also Real won the Europa after coming third in their group
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>>74215883
Didn't know that Germans with a German flag lived in Turkey.
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>>74215904
they lost another 2 finals here
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>>74215931
I think you played too much of your DoF save
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>>74215904
>>74215957
He broke the curse in the first UCL of my save vs Tottenham.

>SI
>realism
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>Trolling your missus on valentines day
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>You will never be Miles and get a Haribo tree for Valentines
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>>74216189
holy shit I'm jealous now
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>>74216172
DEVILISH
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>>74215373
>Manchester City forward Gabriel Jesus suffered a broken metatarsal in the 2-0 Premier League win against Bournemouth.
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>>74216172
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>>74216278
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That new stadium construction really raped the club's balance.
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>CM rapes an opposition player in the midfeild after already taking a yellow
>This results in a goal
A fine example of fairplay. At least in FM I won't get a fine for that.
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>>74216643
>Dots between numbers
>In English
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I still have to understand how all of this works
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Wonder if Jesus is just a plebeian.

>>74216851
And that's partly why they're doing away with it.
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boys my strikers are really struggling, getting shit ratings every game

missing chances left right and centre

should i just splash my entire transfer budget on a decent one
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>>74216876
>https://strikerless.com/2015/02/24/finishing-chances-how-can-i-stop-my-forward-finishing-like-torres-at-chelsea/
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Hope it's damaged cruciates.
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>>74216815
I usually play in spanish and i'm used to dots.
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>>74216918
>Conceding a PK on a set-piece
Come the fuck on.
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>>74216918
>Broken toe
Meh. With it was a broken foot at the very least.
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they were doing so well, what the hell happened?
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>trannie window
>everyone rumoured to buy my players

At least fucking offer if you're going to unsettle them
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>>74217027
>December-January flop
Best player left? Cold made them slip and break their legs?
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>>74217027
January happened
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>>74217029
And sometimes your club will be rumoured to buy a player you never even scouted or doesn't match your system. That much is realistic, but still fuck you Milos.
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>>74217029
>>74217052
wew
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>>74217052
transfer rumour news is like a free scout
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>>74217100
Never ever scouted a good player out of that 2bh.
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>>74217108
I once had an agent recommend me a clubless regen who turned out to have world class potential

Every other time it's been garbage
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>>74217135
I've had a couple good agent offers. Generally all for HUEs just out of the intake sold to pay their parent's loan to the local drug cartel.
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Hope all your gfs say Freddy I Do to you lads today /trb/
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And I qualify for the EL. Got worried about that since Basel EXPOSED Jesus, but thanks to them for giving us 6 points and 3M€. Thanks Carlo for being a Gentleman and not blowing my face a second time. Fuck you Jorge Jesus and the folds of your chin.
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>Jacob Bell
Nice one SI.
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post your weirdest functional tactics lads. sick of playing 3412s and 343s so i made a wide target man tactic thats doing alright but i wanna see what else is out there
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also how the fuck do i increase my attendances? i win constantly but languish in attendance statistics
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>>74217495
Depends of your rep, your league's rep, the price of your tickets, and the population in your area. I actually find it pretty unrealistic that Monaco consistently fills its stadium on big games for example.

Then you could have situations where you manage in shit countries with shit money, which have low attendances and where expanding the stadium or building a new one will consistently cost you more money than you'll recoup through ticket sales. Pic very much related.
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Press F to pay respects to the greatest defender to ever grace football manager.
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>>74217495
sign big name stars, play beautifully, add a wacky promotion to attract media attention
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>>74217536
I'm so sad I have no pics of him in his prime when he basically had 20 in every stat.
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>>74217548
wew
F
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>>74217548
>9 bravery
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>>74217548
Scared of his own shadow though.
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there are people RIGHT NOW who don't sign Indians
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>>74217495
tfw can't sell out a 2000 seater in Sweden

I remember on an old save (I think it was Siena) where we never sold out or expanded the small stadium but the prices kept rising.

By the time we were in the CL we had the most expensive tickets in europe
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>>74214940
>no thread song
>>74215070
1-3
2-1
0-3
3-1
>>74217772
>wanting poo in your locker room
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>wanted to become the next Cristiano Ronaldo
>lost his hair at 19
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>Next Jairzinho
He was a winger you fucking dipshits, this lad is a striker
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>>74215070
0-2
2-1
1-0
3-1
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>>74215070
2-1
3-0
2-1
3-1
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>>74218107
>>74218073
>Benfica
>Beating Dortmund
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>>74218136
Do you know anything about Dortmund right now?
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>third consecutive win by 6 goals
>Drogheda 8-2 Benfica
>Drogheda 6-0 Hiroshima
>Drogheda 8-2 Corinthians
That's how you recover from losing to Wolfsburg
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>>74218151
Benfica ins't playing well either
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Happy Valentines Day
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>>74218167
>4 concessions in 3 matches
not my style of footie
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>>74215070
>PSG - Barcelona
1-1
>Real Madrid - Napoli
2-0
>Benfica - Dortmund
1-0
>FC Bayern - Arsenal
2-1
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>>74215070
>PSG - Barcelona
1-3
>Real Madrid - Napoli
2-1
>Benfica - Dortmund
2-1
>FC Bayern - Arsenal
4-1
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>>74218182
Only way to play.
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>no one thinks Madrid will be exposed vs Napoli
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>>74218216
They've dropped cronaldo so they might get a result
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>>74218264
danilo*
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rate or bully my Sky Bet League 2 tictacs
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>>74218381
>CWB
>14
Were they not terrible in 14? Thought they weren't GOAT till 15
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>>74218404
I've always used them in 14 and they've always performed nicely desu.
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San Marino pls you won a title and now cant even make Europe
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DAAAAAAAAAAA CHAAAAAMPIOOOOOONSSSS
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>>74218525
booooooooooooooooo
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Die beeesten
Die beeesten
Les Grandes Equipes
THE CHAAAAAAAAAMPIOOOOOOONS
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>Narrich
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Reminder that Emery has never a won a game vs Barcelona.
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>>74218588
one they said

>cavani
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>Cavani

it's going to be one of those nights
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>>74218670
Oh yeah that Sevilla 5-4 Barcelona in the supercopa.
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R8 my homegrown/moneymaking challenge lads. Trying it at the moment with Man U, probably one of the easier teams to go with, but it's going quite well:

>Sell all players who weren't at the club below the age of 21
>Don't buy anyone, ever
>Fill the team entirely with youth prospects
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SNAKE
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>Selling Di Maria
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damn
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>arsealona
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lel Kurzawa was holding the players in the wall so they couldn't jump
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Suarez dodged the ball. Jesus Christ
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>>74218864
I've always wanted to do a challenge like this but with someone like Southampton. Obviously still a big team but known for their youth prospects.
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Really confusing tictacs from Barca, they are just jogging around and losing the ball.

Is it a retain possession+close down less+much lower tempo+pass into space?
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>>74219212
Do it la, you have nothing to lose xx
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>>74219300
More like take a breather.
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>>74219398
Oh yeah, take a breather too.
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>>74219300
PSG are closing down pretty high atm, defence has been solid too. Giving barca so little time on the ball that even tika taka is proving hard for them.

that being said, i'll be impressed if they can keep this sort of intensity up for the full 90
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I've noticed the top teams in national league conceded a lot from crosses. I'm basically planning to get the ball out to the winger who bursts forward, puts a high ball in which is headed past the garbage keepers by my striker.

What changes will I want before I start the learning? Should crosses go at the TM or the centre?
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>>74219535
I actually tend to have more posession, so thinking about it I'll change that to CD-D, play out of defence and exploit the left/right.
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hahahaha
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>poopsalona
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EXPOSED
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Messi was such a lazy shit there
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Barcelona just isn't very good. If Messi isn't GOATing it up, they lose.

Especially since they have absolutely no defense in their midfield, Busuquets is a bad defender, Iniesta can't defend, Gomes cant defend. Pique and Umtiti are both really good, but no one else in the team can defend.
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>farça
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so close and yet so far
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don't get complacent; keep focused
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>these clubs
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Any advice for pre-season tours? Places like USA, Korea, Japan, China are classic but are there really any assets with doing it?
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>>74218864
Here's my team, give it 5 years and every single one of them will be GOAT. I swear FM adds some sort of homegrown advantage.
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>>74220053
Nah it's less than 3-0 so aggressive I am disappointed

>>74220106
Strikerless has an article on it, supposedly makes a massive difference to commercial stuff
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>>74220106
to max out money you should do an international tour + domestic matches, although this will increase the number of matches in preseason meaning more chances for your key players to get injured in meaningless games.
read this: https://strikerless.com/2015/05/10/a-money-making-pre-season-scheme/
If you have turkish players going to turkey will give lotsa money.
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>>74220106
>but are there really any assets with doing it?
Usually you get higher shirt sales after touring in those regions. But I'm unsure if it's the same sort of figure you'd get for playing 4 or so big name friendlies (buyern, real mad, chelski, etc)
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if only the milque cup paid
>DIRTMUND
out winner prize money
then again, I get three times more TV money in a month than I would've gotten after losing here
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WEW LAD
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whoa
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Well they got hammered by city ffs
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DI MAGOOOAAAATTTT
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>Art
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dutch commentary on suicide watch
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buy why did they sub out di maria
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>Veratti ded again
wew one player team
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oh my
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ded farça
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Based Cavani, hero of my napoli save in like fm10
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I never doubted Cavani
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Bravo wouldn't have let at least two of these in desu
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>PSG have had 16 shots
>Barca 2
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>>74221688
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just need suarez to bite someone now or something
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>1 shot on target

lel
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>/trb/ in charge of UCL predictions
>>74221182
He was tired
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how would psg's tactic look in fm? they were insane tonight, those sheiks should suck emery's dick after this match
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Would you bang? I usually don't use CBs who can't play the ball but his guy seems pretty beast
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Barca not getting an away goal is huge

>>74222510
Long balls over their press
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>>74222532
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>>74222510
Play out of defense, mark tighter, close down much more, higher tempo, exploit the right flank, run at defense, pass into space
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>>74223138
**Left flank, that was Barcelona's right side that was shite.
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How do I view the league below me if it isn't playable? E.g. how do I view the league below National League North/South?
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>>74223218
you can't
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>>74223138
>>74223174

interesting

thank you
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>>74222532
>Anticipation 11
>Composure 10
>Concentration 11
>Leadership 8

He's ok, but hardly going to be goat. I don't agree with your scout, this guy will be a rotation player in the PL at best.
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Convince me not to throw £20 on FM17 when it's on sale. I didn't buy 16 and I don't want to buy this one but I'm very bored
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Who /drinking themselves to sleep/ here?
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>>74223758
just wait for 18
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>>74223771
Oh lel, last I saw you were 2-0 up.
>90th min pen
trololololed
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>>74223799
>score 6 goals in 4 days
>1 point
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>>74223771
probably starting to drink in a few bings, thanks for the idea
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>>74223771
>penalty 90+
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>>74223742
I'm looking for a rotation player with good upside, not really a GOAT.

He has flaws but the potential to improve a lot should be there.
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>>74223771
maybe you should pal up with Mitch and support Forest?
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>>74224130
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>
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Did I mention already that Tuchel is a humongous faggot who needs the sack?
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>>74224609
>Penalty Taking 1
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Well lads,

Should I cash in on him now? He's got all the biggest clubs chasing after him and he's refused to even enter contract negotiations for almost a year and a half. I've pissed him off a few times in there too. This is probably the last window I can get max dollar for him based on his contract.

The downside is he's basically my only good youth product, one of my only HG players, and there's no way the player I buy to replace him will be as good. He's got a really good personality and he's developed at an extremely rapid clip.
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>>74214945
is that fm12?
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>>74224609
More like Aubameyang is the most overrated footballer in the world right now
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>>74224929
Yes, even Lithuanian doctors can't afford the latest football manger. Sad!
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I have never creamed my pants as much as when Koziello scored. Look at the fucking stats, we pummeled them but for the longest time I thought we'd lose.
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>>74225221

Mozikei isn't really a doctor, is he?
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>>74225315
Of course not

He's a surgeon
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>>74225315
Well he will be soon
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>>74225315
He's a witch doctor
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>>74225328
>>74225342
>>74225345

None of these answers put me at ease.
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>>74225545
What kind of answer you want, fampai?
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>>74225550

Whatever's the truth, it doesn't have to put me at ease, however.
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I fucking start a new career, and don't feel worthy to do anything other than a badgeless sunday leaguer who is unemployed to start.

I literallly don't feel worthy starting employed or with any kind of skills.

Is this due to my cuck mentality???

What should I do about this, anything???
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>>74225569
then see both of these >>74225342
>>74225328
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>tfw recent model vaio laptop can't even run fm12
fuck this sony piece of shit
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>laptop

Literally asking for it
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>>74225578
It's because you're fucking autistic and there's no cure.
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I just want one day where I dont have to restart my internet ten times to post on trb
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>>74225857
No
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Cheeky on sale FM17 as a v day gift for myself. y/n?
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>>74226037
y
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>>74226037
no
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>>74226061
>>74226124
pls
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>tempted to get 17 on sale
>but it'll mean abandoning a save with years left in it
Think I'll stick to skipping until 18
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What FM do you all play?

I never got one before
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>>74226292
17
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>>74226292
2015 and 2017
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>>74226292
Get the newest one

They've made slight improvements every year ever since they redid the way tactics work.

It's just not significant enough of an improvement for people on older versions to upgrade
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>>74226486
>>74226292
Oh and touch is bollocks ignore that
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>greyhound manager on sale

should i?
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It's all I could have ever asked for.
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so, I did this

http://www.fmscout.com/a-fm17-real-names-license-fix.html

anything else I need to fix? I guess I should look for some logo packs, but other than that, what else?
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>>74227229
When your inbox gets slow, do this

https://community.sigames.com/topic/397055-laggy-menus-all-of-a-sudden/#comment-10681010
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>>74227247
fucking SI i did'nt know that's there's a fix for that shit
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Just like last year in CL, Olimpija lost every single EL match. And they are second in the league those wastes of oxygen. The other two clubs made it out of the group stages. Not that surprising for Maribor, much more for Celje (tho' their morale is sky high).
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>>74228079
Time to meet the kind of teams they could've met in the qualifying rounds.
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>>74228093
>getting drawn against an English team

Have fun losing to a roster of overrated players
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You were doing so well. You lasted 8 years and won Serie A. But you blew it.
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>loan a 19 year old player to a team that was in the championship the year before
>now in 2nd in PL with him as top scorer

hmmmmm
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>>74227247
>>74227308
i delete the file "inbox_scrollbar_state.xml" and after the game progress the file appears again, what do?
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>>74228383
Yeah, it auto-generates a new one every time you start the game if there isn't one. Just re-delete it once the file starts getting big again.
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>Try new tactics in shit cup match
>This happens 3 minutes into it
Thanks for ruining my tactical experiment you asswipe.

>>74228191
Especially on hard Brexit. They don't buy as many players, but since they can only get permits for current Intl. players, that's what they do.
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>>74228282
BREAK HIS KNEES TO SHOW HIM WHAT THIS DISLOYALTY WILL COST HIM
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>>74228383
You delete it when it gets huge and your inbox gets slow as fuck.
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>>74228499
>trying tactics that aren't 3 at the back on this patch

I'll convert people to the 3 at the back + IWBs meta eventually
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>>74228551
Ignore me I'm blind lol
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>>74228551
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>>74228560
That should work juuuust fine. Play out of defense, much more narrow, and close down much more are the most important instructions to use IMO.
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Seems tweaking one specific file was enough to get a small sidebar.

>>74228573
Generally I play slightly wider due to teams sitting back. Right now I'm tweaking player roles and instructions (not quite sold on CM Attack or Support), then I'll focus on overall team instructions.
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>>74228560
>>74228573
Have been struggling with the 17 engine and it sounds like the new patch pandered to my sensibilities. Time to go back to pretending I'm a good manager when in fact I'm just a drunk american yelling and exploiting brazilians.
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>>74228634
2bh, IWBs are designed to exploit the most problematic thing about the 17 ME: the acres of space between the CMs/DMs and the wide midielders/attacking midfielders. It's pretty uncanny.
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>>74228595
I think narrow is key with that back 5. Your IWBs almost end up acting like wide midfielders, and it makes it really easy to overwhelm the opposition in the midfield. Once you make it into the opponent's half, the IWBs get really far forward and in combination with your AM and striker you've already got even numbers with the opponent's back line. By playing narrow your midfielders are given more opportunities to play through balls into the box because your IWBs occupy defenders that would normally be paying attention to the striker and AM. Your CM(A)s will push up too, adding to the struggle for the back line of the AI.

It's a good enough formation on the match engine that I'm sure it will work playing on wide, but I still think it's more effective playing narrow, regardless of opponent.

>>74228650
They contribute a lot offensively and make your defense incredibly hard to break down.
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>>74228658
Here's what I mean about their positioning. That's pretty much where they sit during possession and it really fucks with the AI trying to account for all of the potential runs in on goal your team could make while your midfielders pass the ball around.
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>Restore Slovenia's original shitty youth rating
>"""Balance""" it with 8 non-EU player rule
Time to poach some Sudacas.
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>>74228762
>Have 600K€ of budget
>Ask for more
>Have 13M€ transfer budget
Wew.
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>>74228836
That never happens for me wtf
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>>74228848
It's mostly because I just won the league, "unexpectedly" qualified for the group stages of CL and managed to finish third, and had a very, very low original transfer budget. My iverall squad has pretty low wages too, with a load of players that are near the ned of their contract and/or need to be replaced. If I had asked for new facilities or a bigger stadium, the board would've been more likely to refuse or they would've given me much less.
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>>74228879
That should be a few nice South American regens for you.
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>>74228885
I hope so. When I refused to send the striker I'm loaning from Racing Club to Argentina's U20s, I simply scouted all the other South American U19/U20s to see if they had promising, 18yo at most players. You need that to compensate for a 78 Youth Rating.
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>Player just recovered from injury
>IMMEDIATELY starts whining about not having enough first team soccer
>Promise him some starts, despite his match fitness being at 70% or some shit
>THE NEXT DAY strains his stomach in training, out for two months
>THREE WEEKS LATER starts screaming at me about not keeping my word
>While still injured and unable to play
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>>74229032
Daily reminder that the promises system is broken beyond repair and that you shouldn't use it.
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>>74228906
>>74228885
Fuck.
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>>74229086
Who cares, let's try that again.
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>>74229102
Well.
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>A sitter
>A OG
Honestly even on Extended, I dunno how we did not win this match 5:0 at the very least.

>Blast it when inside the box and alone

Oh yeah, figures.
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>Be #1
>Playing #10 at home
>1-1 draw
>Play #12 at home
>1-1 draw
>Play #2 away
>I win 4-0
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Perhaps after recovering he'll be okay with signing for my club that faggot.
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>>74229274

It's about them tic-tacs, man. Xavi's Cagliari play tika-taka to the max in my save and would totally mug me off for two whole seasons, before I finally bucked my ideas up.
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>>74229274
I beat them but the hardest win I've had all season was against 14th (in a 16 team league)

They were able to get more shots off than us somehow despite being wank

And it wasn't tactics because half the league plays their basic 442
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>>74229552

>Formation = Tactics

Sort it out, mate.
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>>74229662
>tactically inflexible formation = tactics
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Yay

I hated the current chairman, hope he goes
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>This guys offer a contract to one of my players
>Check them out
>Yaya
>For 17.75k€ per week
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I'm not sure if this a choke or a fluke
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>>74230152
Yaya is still great in 2018
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>>74230253
>47% Possession
>One shot
Wild guess, but you had "Play Out of Defence" on?
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>>74230269
Of course

It accomplished its purpose since we only lost to Pep by 3%
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>>74230268
Could've been a good RPM if it wasn't for his terrible Work Rate.
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>>74230277
"The" instruction I remove when I play a better team but that I want to win. In FM, Possession is the time you spend on the ball. IRL for OPTA, it's linked to the number of passes. So basically, for me in FM, high possession with barely any shots means that your team is wasting time on the ball. Good when you're late in the match and don't want to concede I suppose.
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>>74225221
Do you know why I said it was fm12? Because I recognize the graphics. I play 12 myself.

t. Poortuguese
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38978373
>Muslims
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>>74230408
they're such hypocrites
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That intake without a HoYD is no better and no worse than any other.
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>>74230569
Hoyd helps with personalities but yeah it's not that major

Mine's only there to coach because our recruitment is so bad
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>Malmo lost to this rabble last game
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>dem hair
poor Chamakh
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>>74230782
And he won't shave, which is even worse.
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>Payet FK
Welp.
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tfw you finally get your pc and FM setup again and your first 2 games are a choke from 2-0 up to 3-2 down and then a choke from 2-0 to 2-2

kill me
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sell for 550k? he's had 6.88 average ratings this season, can't say he's really worth keeping around at this rate desu
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>>74231729
Negotiate for more and remove percentage of next sale as it's worthless on such a player considering his age and performances. Alternatively, his good personality and versatility makes him a good tutor if money isn't an issue.
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>>74231773
money is always an issue, it's me

gonna sell him and replace him with this chap, looks like he'll do a job
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>playmaker 1 assist away from season record
>we score 10 in the final 3 games but no assists for him
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>U19 player pissing me off about going on loan
>Outside of a transfer window
>Staff agrees with him
Bunch of idiots, the lot of them. I was planning to loan him next season, just not right now. He has to wait for 3 fucking months.
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>>74230569
Yeah, I noticed this too. Whenever I sign a great HoYD, I get the worst intakes. Nowadays I only make sure that the HoYD's formation matches what I use so that I get players in the right positions.
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>>74231842
>signing japs
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>>74232098
>Nowadays I only make sure that the HoYD's formation matches what I use so that I get players in the right positions
You don't need that. You can simply tell them. But who am I kidding you won't follow this anyway.

>>74232107
Jap affiliation.
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>>74232122
>You don't need that. You can simply tell them. But who am I kidding you won't follow this anyway.

Wait what? Do you mean the setting that makes youth managers play with first team tactics? You realize that that doesn't mean that your HoYD drafts for those positions, right?
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>3 games in a row conceding deflection own goals
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>74232266
>Do you mean the setting that makes youth managers play with first team tactics?
Yes.

>You realize that that doesn't mean that your HoYD drafts for those positions, right?
It doesn't matter, you can always retrain. I retrain FBs into WMs all the time: I get WMs who can defend in my back three systems. If I want IWBs, I retrain to the other side.
C'mon, be realistic: I play with snowflake formations quite often, there's no AI that can possibly have the same formation as the one I use. You should know it by now that the AI has no flexibility. The closest would be the 5-4-1 Diamond WB at best.
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>>74232295
>>74232266
By which I mean that exception made of your self-imposed challenge, you can't wait for an intake tailored to your tactics. That shit doesn't happen. You retrain players. Aside from that, the AI will often recommend formations based on your squad, ignoring their own preferences. My tactics coach has been recommending a 4-2-3-1 DM Wide for years despite preferring a 4-1-4-1 DM or a 4-1-2-3 Wide. That's the epitome of nitpicking, but don't worry, we're used to that.
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>>74232295
>you can always retrain

Waste of time. Retraining to a new position increases workload and makes players spend less time on actually improving their attributes. Also, you can only reasonably retrain if the players have enough versatility (which you can't even tell) and if they actually have some capabilities in those positions. You can't just train somebody's abilities on a position from 1 to 20 in a few years, unless they have high versatility which is a crapshot.

I mean of course you can try it, but why not improve your chances by finding a more fitting HoYD? You said that it doesnt matter, which is wrong. It doesnt matter too much, youre right about that, but its literally free improvement of your odds regardless.
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>>74231773
Could keep the percentage of next sale clause and then sell it for like 300k
>>
Hello everyone
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>>74232353
>Retraining to a new position increases workload and makes players spend less time on actually improving their attributes.
Which is wrong as they'll improve on the attributes they're training on in their new position. If they never had the attributes to begin with, they go into the trash alongside the hundreds of FBs who can't cross despite being naturals in their position. Big deal.

>Also, you can only reasonably retrain if the players have enough versatility (which you can't even tell) and if they actually have some capabilities in those positions.
Doesn't matter if they have to learn literally one position to fit your tactic. They're from the intake, they have more than enough time to do that. We're not talking about 37 years old on their last legs.

>You can't just train somebody's abilities on a position from 1 to 20 in a few years, unless they have high versatility which is a crapshot.
They don't need 20 in their new position anyway to perform well in it, far from it.

>I mean of course you can try it, but why not improve your chances by finding a more fitting HoYD?
Doesn't exist. Actually, cannot exist.
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>Qualified for CL
>have to wait 6 months for CL qualification
So that's why the likes of the Ukrainians always suck
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>>74232390
I've found you can retrain anyone in a year if they're playing the position.

It's how I got all my SS' and DW's
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>>74232390
>They don't need 20 in their new position anyway to perform well in it, far from it.
>playing players in positions where they are not natural unless it's an emergency

>Doesn't exist. Actually, cannot exist.
yes, yes it can. Certain formations will always be closer to your formation than other formations.
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>>74232450
I even had a player who was complaining every single day about learning a new position to be accomplished in it before the end of the season. Then I released him and he eventually retired.

>>74232480
>playing players in positions where they are not natural unless it's an emergency
>yes, yes it can
>Certain formations will always be closer

>Talks about playing naturals
>Is satisfied with inaccurate formation
Even ironically it's terrible hypocrisy.
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>>74232512
What the fuck are you on about the entire time? Are you legitimately retarded or is this the frog language barrier?

You realize that picking a HoYD with a preferred formation that comes closest to your actual meme formation improves your chances of getting players in the right positions, right? And you understand what a comparative is, don't you? Or do you frogs not have that in your gay language?
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>>74232539
>>You realize that picking a HoYD with a preferred formation that comes closest to your actual meme formation improves your chances of getting players in the right positions, right?
Doesn't matter if I still have to retrain because the formation doesn't match right? Or you are too dense to understand that concept?
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>>74232551
lel, you actually don't understand probabilities, do you?
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>>74232558
The probability is actually zero. I have to retrain regardless.
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>>74232558
If you're using weird roles you'll never get a natural

Getting a LFB is no better than getting a ML if you want to have an IWB
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My chairman there taking out a loan to pay off the debts generated by him previously taking out a loan for no reason
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>>74232591
A player can have a natural IWB stat spread. A left back can be naturally right footed.
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>>74232613
A Hoyd won't affect that
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>>74232613
That's where player recruitment takes place. Because I'd consider waiting for the right player, in the right position, with the right footedness, attribute spread and good potential (considering hat you can always tutor him if he's not terrible) to come through your intake thanks to the favourite formation your HoYD uses is actually beyond autistic. But don't worry, as I said before, you're in good company here.
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>>74232629
But a HoYD will affect whether you regularly get left backs or not in the first place. That's my point.

A HoYD won't influence what kind of stat spread a player will get, but he will influence the probabilites of player positions. The probability of getting a natural IWB is very low, but it's even lower if you have y 3-4-3 HoYD who barely even gets fullbacks. Is that so hard to understand?
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What are your top tips for negotiating a contract renewal? My guy wants a 50% pay rise but ideally he needs a 20% cut. He is 36 and fits my team perfectly and I haven't found a backup let alone a replacement. Realistically, if I dint give him a contract I expect him to retire. He is on the slow decline in technical ability now.
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>>74232644
Who said anything about waiting you absolute moron? Maximizing your chances is good regardless of whether or not you desperately need an exact type of player. Why do you willingly lowering your odds?
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>>74232648
Which is irrelevant since you could always retrain every natural ML to the other side as a WB if you need them. Whether the player is a FB or a ML is irrelevant.
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>>74232655
>Why do you willingly lowering your odds?
When the odds are that stupidly low, I'd rather maximise them by training a player into what I want, not hoping that he'll come through the intakes. That's maximising my chances. Playing percentages with the HoYD's favourite formation is simply extremely autistic compared to that. I don't condemn you for it though.
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>>74232674
Retraining increases the work load which means that you either have to remove the individual focus or accept the fact that your player will be more injury prone (which could ruin his development forever if he gets injured at 15 for a year).

Retraining players takes a lot of effort out of the players, and their growth will undoubtably, undisputably be stunted. That obviously does not mean that they won't hit their peak or that they won't be a great player at the age of 18, because those things are all very achievable depending on starting CA, training facilities, personality of the player, luck.

Still, retraining players simply IS, ceteris paribus, worse for their development than not needing to retrain, simple as that. I don't get why you're even debating this point.
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>>74232696
You can still retrain even with the best HoYD formation. I don't say "don't retrain ever", I regularly retrain players because of things like manlet CB syndrome, shitty pacebabby syndrome, wrong footedness etc. But it is optimal to not even have to retrain at all, and getting the HoYD maximizes your chances of not needing to. Having the right HoYD formation-wise is objectively better for your because it improves your chances, even if you will still need to retrain your worthwhile regens most of the time.
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>>74232700
>Retraining increases the work load
>Retraining players takes a lot of effort out of the players, and their growth will undoubtably, undisputably be stunted
It really doesn't any more than becoming good at what they currently can do. It would be worrying if the player doesn't have the right attributes to begin with, which makes it n different to the case where a FB couldn't cross, move off the ball or dribble: into the trash he goes. But if he does have the right spread, it's only a matter of gaining familiarity in that position, and that's very fast.

>which means that you either have to remove the individual focus
No I don't have to. Any player who can't handle a High workload is not Pro enough to develop well anyway.

>>74232719
>Having the right HoYD formation-wise is objectively better for your because it improves your chances, even if you will still need to retrain your worthwhile regens most of the time
All that for a HoYD who doesn't exist, and yet you admit you'd have to retrain most of the time. Well, waste of time.
>>
So this is just FIFA Manager but with shittier graphics?


Should I buy 17 or just keep playing 15? I haven't really played much /trb/ in a year or so.
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>>74232763
Yes, he does exist. Please, show me your formation and I'll tell you what kind of HoYD you should look for.

>No I don't have to. Any player who can't handle a High workload is not Pro enough to develop well anyway.

It's not about handling the load, it's about injuries. Higher workloads make injuries more likely. Retraining players leads to higher workload which leads to higher risk of career threatening injuries. Therefore, it's preferable to have a HoYD that looks for players in the positions that you use.
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>>74232774
Just play 15.
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Miles please....
My player both scored and missed a penalty at the same time.
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>Sweeper got sent off in extra time in a meaningless last game of the season
tosser
>>
>>74232763
>>74232719
What I'd consider is having my HoYD having a good personality. Because that actually matters: you spend less time tutoring (which can take a good half of a season and requires a good tutor and can fail more or less randomly), the player spends less time bitching and actually develops significantly quicker.

>>74232782
>Yes, he does exist.
3-4-3 Diamond. Closest is 5-4-1 Diamond, which makes me retrain the WBs to ML and the DMs to MC. Which makes no difference to me.

>Higher workloads make injuries more likely.
>Signing injury-prone players
I have strictly zero real problems with injuries. 3 out of my 24 U19s are currently injured, which is a ridiculous number by IRL standards. All are on High workload whenever possible. Those who bitch about it aren't Pro enough and are let go (if I even sign them in the first place after the intake). Injuries in FM are much, much rarer than they should be for FM to be actually realistic.
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Based meme player is achieving his dreams
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>>74232820
I agree that HoYD personality is very important, but I never said anything against that.

Even players with injury proneness 1 can get injured for a year, and their likelihood of injury is increased when retraining.

When I pick HoYD, I prioritize personality over formation over JPP. Previously, I did personality over JPP over formation.

Eventually I realized that even a HoYD with 15 rather than 20 JPP would recognize the next Messi, so I prefer formation now.
>>
>>74232875
>Even players with injury proneness 1 can get injured for a year
Of course, I had one. But it was entirely bad luck as I didn't need him to retrain at all and wasn't retraining.

>and their likelihood of injury is increased when retraining
I really, really need a citation on that. I'm being completely honest on that one. I've never noticed anything like this. I've never seen a player having a harder workload than another because they're retraining or whatnot. Actually I'd really want to have the ability to tailor the workload to the player again in FM. Wonder why they took it away in FM17 but whatever.
>>
Is there a downside to having a good coach for each training area and a shit coach who covers each area to keep the workload down?

So does only the best coach rating matter or not?
>>
>>74233223
IIRC and according to Miles, the rating of the best coach is the one that matters. I can't provide a quote on that one.
>>
>>74233223
In the previous versions of the game, the game displayed the average rating for each area, rather than the rating of the best coach. I don't know if they changed the formula (meaning that now, only the best coach for each area counts) or not. But given that SI loves to half-ass their shit, I'm thinking that other coaches still matter and that they only changed the attribute displayed.
>>
idk if keep on with the Oxford save or start a Tercera División save with an >user db.
Should I flip a coin?
>>
>>74233359
Odds Oxford
Evens Tercera
Dubs Queens Park
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>>74233383
I think imma start the Tercera save though.
>>
My team has unironically missed 5 penalties in a row now. Luckily I've still won most of the games, but it's still pretty annoying desu.
>>
>>74233531
Make that 6 - 2 in 1 game now. Fuck's sake lads.
>>
>>74233531
>>74233543
I've had plyaers who are supposedly at least decent at penalties (12+ in each attribute at the very least) shoot terrible ones time and time again while my CB, with terrible Penalties and Finishing but much better Mental attributes (due to being a CB of course) actually goes for well placed shots no keeper can realistically stop without trying to blast it. I haven't figured out as to why that is or if I'm simply paranoid.
>>
I'll let you lads pick a name and profile pic for my Tercera save.
post em and I'll pick the one I like the most.
You can also pick things like Second Nat and Age if you want.
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>>74233600
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>>74233632
why did I think this was a good idea ffs
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>>74233600
make yourself 80 and half canadian
>>
>>74233600
butters, Spanish
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>>74233650
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>>74233719
You have to add a name too you know
>>74233684
This one is winning for now, I will come back to the thread after the UCL game and decide.
>>74233675
Will do
>>
I have 400 hours in FM15 and thought 15 years old was the youngest regen you could find.

Just found a 14 year old CB who's already 6ft4. Six foot four at fourteen holy moly.
>>
>>74233543
Low pressure attribute is probably the reason, change your designated pen takers
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>>74233770
It can be modified before starting a save and can change from league to league. I modified that to be 14 in Slovenia for example, which is completely useless.
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>>74233770
post him
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>>74233794
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>>74233772
you would know all about that
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>>74233853
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>>74233829
neat
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RealMad/Napoli or Bayern/Arsenal

which one to watch?
>>
>>74234036
buyern to win 5-0
>>
>>74234036

Real v Napoli will be more competitive.
>>
>>74234036
Bayern/Arsenal
Why deny your heritage?
>>
>Home, away, away, away, home home
FFS
>>
>>74234036
Buyern will lose today, it will be nice to watch the upset. Madrid will just beat Napoli 3-0, what's the point in watching that?
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>>74234192
lads it's arsenal
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>>74234192
>Buyern will lose today
nice proxy mitch
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>>74234192
>Madrid and Munich win
>all 4 games so far won by the teams finishing 2nd in their group
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>>74234252
Exposedelotti is a fucking shit manager. You'll see tonight when he gets exposed for everyone to see.
>>
BASED INSIGNE

I ALWAYS KNEW THAT NAPOLI WOULD BE THE DARK HORSE
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>>74234192
I-I was merely pretending
>>
>>74234192
>>74234311
>>74234369
>Art
>>
holy FUCK that blooter from Robben
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>>74234369
Can't be as good a goal as Robben just scored
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*cuts inside*
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>missed both goals because im switching between games
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>>74234602

Sorry about that, I'm sure you'll catch next one
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>>74234602
I hope you caught the latest one
>>
>"Is Ozil even on the pitch?"
love it when local commentators reaffirm maymays
>>
Is that really a pen even though it was accident?
>>
>that "de fence"
>>
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

MEMECELOTTI EXPOSED
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>>74235146
I don't know if it is a clear pen by the laws of the game but I think that it should not be, Lewy really did nothing wrong.
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>showing a yellow for giving a diver shit
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>>74233531
My best pen taker is a fucking centre back
>>
Did they change the Belgian league for 17 or was it already updated in 16 with the new structure?
>>
Real have the least passionate celebrations in all of sports
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>>74236472
Well how can you celebrate when you're just expected to win? They beat a scrub 5-0, they don't celebrate, just complain if the next match isn't the same
>>
>Arsenal
>>
>announcer just said Robben Lewandowski

nice Freudian slip there.
>>
Nice knowing you Arsenal
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>Art enal
>>
holy shit casemiro
>>
>>74234072
>
>>
>Scoring only three
>Blasting it in the stands whenever they're in the box
I feel I need more capable finishers in my midfield.
>>
lmao.
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>maradona gave a half time talk
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>>74234463
>Blooter
>Coquelin who just lets him strike that once as if he hadn't done that 1483936449+ times in his career
Shamefur dispray.
>>
>sit deeper
>close down much less
>stand off tackles

What did Wenger mean by this?
>>
>>74236895
Didn't he do the exact opposite a couple of years back when they got rekt 5-1?
Guess he is just trying everything
>>
>>74236400
>Did they change the Belgian league for 17 or was it already updated in 16 with the new structure?
Belgian league was new this year

It's almost worth buying it to play a league where you can finish second last and qualify for the Europa League
>>
>death
>taxes
>arsenal out in the last 16
Certainties of life
>>
>arselel
>>
>>74236952

i mean, they've had enough chances against Bayern in the CL to try pretty much everything.
>>
Arsenal is such a waste of a CL spot
>>
>Don't get complacent out there
>5 players looked to switch off
>>
Alexis Sanchez is leaving Arsenal this summer, isn't he?
>>
i have decided i am better off not living anymore, goodbye trb
>>
>>74237084
They switched off when Kos went out. Wish he had conceded a penulty himself.
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>>74237171

can i have Daisy then?
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>>74237133
Can't see where he would go though tbqh. Unless City spend silly money on him but I doubt he'd work with Poop again.
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>>74237133
>missing that penalty
he's just as shitty
>>
>>74237133
Going to United after they fail at Greaseman probably

all the massive sides already have their forward players in place
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>>74237171
Give me Anna's snapchat before you die lad
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>>74237201
>>74237224

i've heard Juventus are interested in him, don't think PSG would mind adding him to their ranks either tho.
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>>74237171
Fail promotion one last time before you go, just for me
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>>74237197
yeah sure man

it's not like i'm the one who gets to give permission :^)

>>74237249
fuck off she is the love of my life

>>74237261
well on the fucking way don't you worry
>>
>>74237197
not like mitch being alive would've prevented you from getting with her
>>
>>74237261
PSG is a good shout I suppose. Juve could hardly afford him surely?
>>
>>74237261
Draxler is GOATing, they don't need even more wingers. And certainly not another Eplel pacebabby.
>>
>>74237285
>out of the cups
have you ever posted that screen when your cup runs hadn't ended?
>>
>>74237296
Sanchez isn't really a winger
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>>74237330
nah we tend to do poorly in the cups

gives us more time to focus on doing poorly in the league
>>
>>74237330
You mean he cannot be consistent in mediocrity?

>>74237352
He's useless everywhere else for PSG.
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>>74237356
That's the spurs mentality
>>
I'm a bit late but

>arselel
>>
Almost done my 1st draft of dissertation...can feel the few days of trb calling me this weekend
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Oh yeah, forgot him.
>>
>buy player from main rival
>(tweet) Meet up at the stadium for a protest right now
>sell him for 3x a year later
>(tweet) Meet up at the stadium for a protest right now

epic
>>
>space investigating intensifies
>>
>>74237865

>space investigation status: COMPLETE
>>
>>74237865
>immediately scores
lel
>>
wtf i love bayern now
>>
>ar

>se

>lel
>>
Wenger in
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>>74218864
Did that with Everton, did end up getting relegated but 4 seasons later won the champs league and sold fucking Chris Long for 40m
>>
>>74233829
Not bad at all athough he lacks passing, quickness and composure
>>
>>74218864
>>74238187
Trouble is that it takes a while to get top facilities but once you do it's easy
>>
>>74238269
Go manage in a country with shit youth rating to make it more interesting then.
>>
>>74238269
Incredibly satisfying though. Ended up being the most successful team I've ever had by a long shot, and didn't buy a single one of them. Can highly recommend, v rewarding.
>>
>>74235260
U wot mate?
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>>74237261
It's higly doubtulf he will make a move in Ligue 1 now
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>>74238460
That's where you could consider that Kos might have two braincells working together: he got subbed off before shit hit the fan.
>>
>>74238519
unlucky
>>
>>74238523
I never really had figure if he was an epic bad defender or a good one. He's not this bad but christ he sometimes act really stupid or make really idiot fouls.
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IT'S ON NOW POOP
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>>74238636
Just write ">Poop" in addition comments
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>>74238519
>English footy
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>>74238708
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>>74238731
>>74238708
But neither of them show teams that play in an "EPL" league
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>>74238708

oh
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>>74238731
>>74238741
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>>74238741
>English people
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>>74238708
>>74238741
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>>74238731
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>>74238708
>>74238741

whatever
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>>74238741
>>74238708

something something Ligue 1 as well
>>
>its a "chillwave spams suarez goals" episode undergone a soft-reboot
hope Deportivo had some next sale clause in their deal
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>>74238817
That's a nice collection my amigo
>>
>>74238750
What's wrong with this one? It was a poor missed header but really not awful defending. If anything it shows the strength of goal keepers in the PL compared to the sunny SPL where one of the best keepers came to England and became literally the worst in the league.
>>
>>74238845
You mean FL
>>
>Portugal U21s at age 17
t-there's still hope of a Moldovan GOAT, right?
>>
>>74238876
Pink and black trim
>>
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>>74238865

shhhhh

>>74238894

lmao yes
>>
>>74238876
Nice pie
Thx butters
>>
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>>74238910
>not the full black one
>>
live with some post-rape depression
>>
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>>74238962
just sack wonga already
>>
I snapped and bought 17 guys

couldn't put up with 16's performance anymore
>>
>>74238876
tfw wondering if I could be hot if I was a girl
>>
>>74239089

just make sure you stay skinny and you'd have a solid 60%-70% chance you would be.
>>
Mitch start streaming, I'm suffering from post-exposed depression
>>
>>74239112
i already am you stupid turk

i conceded while typing this
>>
>>74239112
I wonder why you'd ever bet against Buyern when they're up against /arse/.
>>
>>74239130
where did you put the stream quality options you fuck?
>>
>>74239141
I don't watch arse games, I know that they're eternal chokers but Bayern are really awful, struggling against the shittiest of Bundes teams. Any half-decent team that does their homework (like not letting the Bayern CBs do whatever they want, for fucks sake) is well capable of beating Buyern right now.
>>
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You guys didn't give me manager names or pics so I went with this
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>>74239049
I'll post the rest of my albas because why not
>>
>>74239211
guatamala user db?
>>
>>74239193
I didn't really had follow Bundes this season, but are Bayern really strugglin this season?

I see they are leading the champ and I also know that usually Ancelotti's team aren't really know for crushing the league.
>>
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>>74239321
Spanish Third Division (which is actually the 4th).
Gomera is an island in the Canaries.
>>
>>74239331
They're absolutely pathetic, any other year in the past they wouldn't lead the league. But this year we're pathetic as well, and Leipzig is getting exposed right now.
>>
>>74239370
i watched your game, jesus man, you had NO end producct or any attacker with a first touch lighter than a brick to the face.
>>
>>74239370
At least they are still in a good run.
At the end they should won the league and the cup, no?
And what about Müller? I read some stuff about how his level dropped and he's not in the first plan for team, but it was only french and league newspapers, my deutsch level isn't this good to read german press (have any to suggest, or even blog?)
>>
>>74239447
*english, not league
I should stop drinking
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>>74239344
last one
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>>74239447
yeah, Müller hasn't been good since the Euros, he just seems to have lost his sense for scoring for some reason. it's a bit of a mystery desu. Well, and he was never a good technical player to begin with, so he's been dead weight for the better part of the season.

I believe he can find back to form however, I mean he's not a one season wonder like lechatshitman.
>>
>>74215231
>>FC Bayern - Arsenal
>5-1

Got one right at least.
>>
>>74239211
ahem

>>74233632
>>74233675
>>74233684
>>74233719
>>
>>74239708
I used a frog because I wasn't using the worst facepack ever pls gimme a break
Also I made myself half canadian
>>
>>74239447
Müller has scored about 5 goals in 2016 and he's being benched now. I hope he's finished, I can't respect the guy as a player because he's so utterly incapable of playing football, he just has godlike finishing and leaches off his great team that gives him a lot of good balls.

he's a nice guy though
>>
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To quote Michael Kiske.

Leave me aloneeeee
>>
>>74239505
gaggle of cunts
>>
>>74239554
Sad for him, maybe he need to rest a bit or work more to find another way to help the team. I like the player, how his playing style rely on space and movement, he's like the wrong guy at the wrong time but in the end he will score or make the pass. Also the man made me kek a lot.

>>74239743
I'm feeling sorry for you mate, it's seems this season is not yours, keep confident and just wait for next season, I hope you'll have better moment in future.
>>
>>74239846
I'm a Dortmund fan by the way lad
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>>74239743

>hating on Muller
>>
>>74239818
Too bad Ramstad is saying "I WANT OUT"
>>
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>>74239829
>>
#mitchout
>>
>>74239865
My bad mate.
>>
How do I get into FM? Never played any, and now I see so many options that I'm pretty confused.
>>
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>>74240072
>>74240072
>>74240072
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