/NFL/ General. Retardation Edition

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2690427-raiders-relocation-san-diego-officials-reach-out-to-nfl-regarding-possible-move

>>73981320
>pissing off the jew overlords of Nevada

How dumb is Mark Davis? "NFL Owner found dead in car" headlines when?

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4 more days till Matty Ice has a ring

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What did they mean by this?

>>73981356
should have been a top 4

>Haters are still sleeping on Tom Brady after all these years
Let me put it like this. Tom Brady is going to march his team down the field and score a touchdown for the lead in the last 3 minutes if he has to. The ONLY way to beat them is if your team can go down and score immediately after that.

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>>73981320
>move chargers to LA
>LA dont want them
>move raiders to SD
>LA wants them
You cant make this shit up

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What would YOUR team give up for Jimmy Garoppolo?

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>>73981393
a couple mil, and Bill will like it, god dammit

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>>73981393
>how much would you pay for a qb who can catch his own throws for positive yardage

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>zero wins against good teams in 2016
>federally convicted cheater
>since 2011, has beaten a league low 33 teams with a winning record
>exposed as system babby after team went 3-1 without him
>1-3 against Peyton "most one and dones in NFL history" Manning in the playoffs
>blew a 15 point lead in one game
>0-2 against Peyton's autistic brother in the SB
>only scored 14 points in a SB with Randy Moss
>18 and 1
>threw an intentional grounding in the endzone for a safety in a SB
>lost to the worst team (2011 Giants) in Super Bowl history
>has lost to Mark "ButtFumble" Sanchez while at home in the Playoffs
>gifted a playoff win by refball
>cheated to get 3 out of his 4 rings
>bailed out by a HOF kicker three times
>injuries to the Seahawks secondary and a brain dead OC gifted him his fourth
>has had a noodle arm his entire career
>is a dirty player who tried to end Ed Reed's career
>blown the fuck out by Earl Thomas on twitter
>struggled against a 9-7 team and threw two INTs
>only won because opposing QB had the brain of an inbred hick
>cheated to beat a sick, mentally distracted Steelers team with no defense
>been carried by the No. 1 scoring defense all year
>been carried by the GOAT coach his entire career
>going to be BTFO by the MVP of the league in the Super Bowl
>will never be as good as Joe Montana
>will be remembered as a cheater if he is even remembered at all

Is he finished?

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>>73981512

Being this absolutely butt hurt about Brady winning another title

>>73981558
shhh, don't give him the (You)s he craves

>>73981393
Depends on my team. If I play in a dome division or have decent weather in the division.

I am a Texans fan. So probably our first and the pats give us their 4th. Then Trade oz after eating most of his salary but getting another team to give him a like a 8 million dollar deal like RG3 got, so save us like 8 mil. Then with Watt it depends on his health.

Jimmy G is a solid early 2nd rounder plus a 4th level qb. if not more

>>73981393
A second year backup QB

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>>73981356
For (You)

>>73981393
A late first or 2 mid seconds

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>>73981393
this guy

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Woah so this is the arm strength of the greatest quarterback of all time...

>>73981512
you're doing god's work, anon

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Tom "Alpha I fucked your mom, shit was so cash" Brady

Vs.

Matt "I'm just happy to be here, please b-be gentle" Ryan

>>73981640
>cherrypicking a single underthrown ball
try harder

>>73981512
>1-3 vs Manning in the playoffs
>meaning only 4 matchups
>last time before this year the Cheats played the Stillers in the playoffs was like 2006 or some shit
How doid the Cheats only run into those 2 perennial playoff teams 6 times over like 50 playoff games

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Go hawks,

>expects Palmer to return
>when he just put his house up for sale and moved his whole family out of the state

>>73981393
Mid first. Be Arizona Fan.

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Patriots gonna lose

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>>73982101
are you telling me the nfl is rigged to make money of of gambleres?

>>73981393
Chargers fan here. 2nd.

>>73981349
This is not going to get him high fives at the next annual owners meeting.

>>73982101

the law of averages tells me its more likely the pats will win

>>73982101
The "underdog" usually has a better defense.

>Patriots in 3 SBs since 2009

>>73982101
how the fuck were Broncos the underdog?

>>73982395
Carolina bull dozed their way to the NFC CG. The Broncos had zero offense. Carolina had a good defense and the """"MVP"""". I expected Carolina to win too since they had a functional offense.

>>73981344
>>73981320
The Raiders aren't moving to San Diego.

San Diego still isn't going to pay for a stadium and Mark Davis is poorer than Dean Spanos.

>>73982358
wouldnt the law of averages tell you that since the last underdog lost the next underdog will succeed?

>>73982426
You what? The last underdog won.

>>73982439
LMAO i saw the L next to the broncos and thought they lost. i need to go to sleep

>>73982101
>Let's completely ignore everything we know about these teams and just say the underdog will win!
>That's the ticket!

Why were the Seahawks/Saints more hyped during their first Owl win runs than the Falcons are now?

>>73982521
The Saints went 13-0 that year and the Seahawks play dirty and have a lot of loudmouthed thugs on their team.

>>73982521
Because they don't have players that make easy headlines. Reporters want clicks not players that actually do the right thing.

>>73982534
More on the Saints, Katrina wasn't that old and the Saints had a history of being a Browns-tier organization so it was a lot more exciting for them to make a Super Bowl run.

The Falcons have always just sort of been not quite good enough, which doesn't attract as much attention as outright failure.

>>73981393
Conner Cook and a 4th or 5th Round Pick

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>>73982521
Because everyone knows the Patriots will obliterate them.

Reminder that one of the two teams in the owl this year has the hero of Super Bowl 49 on their roster, and it ain't the Falcons.

Why do tards keep talking up these so called "high powered offenses" in super bowls? Every single time we hear about how so-and-so's offense can't be stopped, they get stopped and the better defense wins.

The Falcon hype is just another example of this. They can't hang with the New England D. It's that simple.

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SOMEDAY, BABY

>>73982613
I want the Patriots to win just to have more liberal salt.

>>73982826
It's called marketing, it's the thing that sells merchandise which is the main source of league revenue.

>>73982971
>Brady wants to make American grape again
>ATL is in the Deep South

Basically there's no winning narrative for liberals here, we just have to wait until baseball season, basketball season, hockey season and soccer season.

>>73982986
Georgia was red but Atlanta voted blue

>>73983004
Most large cities do, they actually see the things being protested every day so they're terrified of every little thing.

Anyway: WTF i love the Falcons now.

>>73983042
Yes, protesting by destroying your own city shows how serious you are about a candidate you don't like. Genius. Atlanta doesn't surprise me though, it's predominantly black and blacks almost always vote blue since they love gibs

>>73982826

>they can't hang with the 16th best defense in the NFL

Both these teams are high powered offenses.

>>73982971
Liberal here.

I would be happy as fuck if the Pats win. I'm a Massachusetts native, one of the most liberal states in the country. There are more liberals here than conservatives so have fun rooting for a liberal team!

>>73982796
>implying quinn making retarded calls

>>73983099
Anyone is susceptible to Belichick's jedi mind tricks.

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>>73983115
so, the stolen playbook it's just pre-damage control?

I find it hilarious how /pol/ is unironically rooting for a team from the most liberal region in the country that has liberal players only admitting they won't go to the white house if they win. Can you be any more cucked than that?

We liberals in MA have been rooting for the pats since long before the trump MEME started. We never gave a fuck about Brady's politics and we still don't.

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>>73983138
>stolen playbook

>>73983147
>liberal players only admitting they won't go to the white house if they win.
Who said this?

>>73983163
bennett and like other three niggas

>>73983163
Martellus Bennet I believe. Drumpffaggots have been crying salty tears ever since.

Brady can vote for who he wants. He's a football player, not a politician, so nobody cares. If he DID run for office or become vocal about trump-like opinions, he would be shat on like curt schilling is. Nobody respects that clown in this state because he couldn't shut his stupid mouth about politics

>>73981712
hmmmm
i wonder

>>73983153
kyle shanahans playbook was stolen by a san fran reporter and taken off site for a few hours. here comes another *

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http://deadspin.com/im-fed-up-with-tom-brady-1791819550


LMAO

>>73983203
Lol okay pal. I'm sure he brought it straight to belichick, right? Y'all and your salty tears are pathetic

>chargers to LA
>raiders to Diego

The nfl is a joke

>>73983203
It was a half hour, dumbass. Shanahan is a retard for leaving something like that lying around unattended anyway. That's like Saturday morning cartoon shit

>>73983206
Brady plays for a team that represents a region that went entirely for Clinton so this obsession with trying to attach his personal politics to the team is so annoying. He's a minority here, and an outlier. I wish both sides would shut the fuck up about it and focus on football.

>>73983246

in reality there is only one side complaining about it pmsl, its the left.

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If the Owl was stillers-failcons how the sjw would be bandwagoning?

>>73983292
Not true. /pol/ retards are constantly on here pretending that the Patriots are some team for conservatives or white people. It's not exclusively the left doing it

>>73983346

>pol comes and posts on another board
>a major liberal media outlet writes an article about it

are you retarded?

>>73983356
No, but you clearly are. Nobody's writing articles about /pol/ posts on 4chan

>>73983356

> deadspin
> major -- media outlet

Uh oh

>>73983361
>Nobody's writing articles about /pol/ posts on 4chan
Are you sure about that?

>>73983097
Your owner, coach, and quarterback are conservative and all three are personal friends of Trump

>>73983174
>"Drumpffaggots have been crying salty tears ever since"
>guy you responded to didnt even know what players said they werent going
>nobody knew the players that said they werent going except libshits
>nobody gives a shit about who goes a week after SB

"hahah drumpfkin got blown out again ahah"

>>73983419
Nobody gives a fuck about their politics. We like them because of football, not because of the stupid things they believe. They don't go out there in the media saying stupid shit about politics so nobody cares. Just win. It's really that simple.

>>73983400
Wasn't the leaf that shot up that mosque the other day a /pol/fag?

>>73983147
We're not rooting for the patriots per se, I don't give a fuck about them. I just want Brady to win since Brady and Trump in a White House Super Bowl photo op will cause inevitable salt from the left who can do nothing but cry about things right now. Though I wouldn't mind the Falcons winning either just to see a different team win the owl for once.

I feel like new england is going to make some big plays on punt/kick off returns as well as yards after the catch. That's really going to be the difference in the game, that and the NE defense keeping Atlanta under 30.

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I could beat the shit out of any of you nerds in a fight

Fucking try me and see what happens I dare you bitches

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>>73983538
>I remember when cowcucks laughed when people told them they would be one and done in the playoffs

>>73983547
#1 seed bitch.
5 rings bitch.

Kneel.

>>73983547
*teleports above you*
*decapitates you*

Heh, I warned you

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>Jaylen Smith's nerves are regenerating and he's already running and making cuts fine
>is back to running 4.40

>They actually let this happen

>>73983604
#1 seed lost to #5 seed m8

>>73983604
>5 rings

Which ones were you alive to see?

>>73983604
And lost to the non-NFCN champs, the Puckers

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/826478054088331264

what are they planning /sp/ ?

>>73982395
Did you see the Panthers steamroll the entire NFC playoffs? It was reasonable to have them as 3 point favorites against a team who couldn't move the ball.

>>73982826
Atlanta has already played better defenses this year, and won soundly. Interestingly, if you go back through some of the higher scoring offenses of the last ten years or so, the ones getting obliterated in the Owl played a defensive schedule in the bottom half of the league. I would argue that this is the cause of the disappointing Owl result -- playing a really good defense for once. For reference, the Falcons had the second hardest defensive schedule this year.

>>73984670
Put your trip on Lake you absolute faggot

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>>73982826
>Falcon hype
Good one.

>>73983330
SJWs don't watch football. It's "problematic".

>>73984852
You know, for as much shit as this place talks about Reddit, at least they can have an actual conversation that isn't ad hominems and posting pictures of people laughing.

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Chiefs

>>73984860
definitely ironic considering all the pandering NFL does for the wimmins and other assorted SJWs. nothing is ever good enough for them.

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>their owner doesn't have enough money to fund the build of a new stadium

LMAO RAIDNIGGERS

>Mark Davis' incompetence keeps the Raiders in Oakland
I'll take what I can get.

Of course I'm sure this means the Patcheaiots will get awarded with another astrix this year after being babied by the league yet again.

The nigger birds better go head hunting. There's only so many QBs the Belicheat has prepared for his system.

>>73984901

How does the Raiders returning to Oakland give the Patriots an asterisk

>San Diego reaches out to the Raiders
>Goodell might not allow Raiders to move because 3 teams in Southern CA might be too much

I... what? How... does that---what? My brain is melting.

>>73984670
>Atlanta has already played better defenses this year and won soundly
No they haven't.

>a fan only blows when you're hot

oh shit

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>>73984866
>he thinks the circle jerk that is reddit conversations is good

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>>73982826
Oh we're still pretending the Shitriots have a good defense?

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>>73985037

>>73985037
Yeah, like the Broncos defense that shut Brady down.

>>73985196
The Broncos that have no run defense and have to be on the field the entire game because their offense goes 3 and out constantly?

>>73985215
That'd be the one. Reminder that ATL played 12 games against defenses with higher DVOA defense than NE.

>>73985067
>muh numbers
I'm looking at their schedule, and I'm not seeing a defense as good and well rounded as the Patriots of except Chiefs and ET Seahawks.

>>73985235
>numbers are too hard for my witty bitty brain ;_;

brainlets when will they learn?

>>73984652
The panthers beat on terrible teams the entire season so I don't know how that meme lasted so long

>>73985254
Same thing the Falcons have done this year

>>73983147
Keep your political bullshit in your containment board

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>>73985261
Wrong. Panthcucks played the easiest defensive schedule of any team last year. It's why they got BTFO for being paper tigers once they reached the SB.

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>>73983604

>From 1994-1996, Dimitroff was a BLESTO scout for the Lions in the same front office as director of pro scouting Kevin Colbert and pro personnel scout Rick Spielman.

>Lions had 3 NFL GMs

>>73985269
>schedule babbies
really helped the Jets that year

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>>73985283
It's like you aren't even trying

Deion Sanders believes Julian Edelman is underrated due to reverse racism. Is deion our guy /sp/?

http://graphics.wsj.com/nfl-coaches/

>>73985349
meh. Julian is a B level Wr. He's got health problems and his hands become an issue sometimes otherwise he'd be an A. Same with Gronk.

when are people just going to accept that Greg Olsen is a better TE than Gronk?

>>73985349
Yes, and he's right.

>"I don't wish them (the Bills) bad will," Ryan said, via the New York Daily News. "I don't. But I don't wish them luck, either. I'll be honest: I don't wish them good luck. I don't wish them bad luck. I just don't wish them luck. I wish the Jets luck."

razorcakes btfo

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>>73985367
Never

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>failcoons actually have a legitimate chance at a ring for the first time
>nobody cares

Was everyone this disinterested when the Aints had their owl?

>>73985705
no, muh katrina storyline and everyone knows the pats are going to win anyways

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I'M BACK YOU COCK SUCKERS CANT KEEP ME BANNED JANI BOY

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>Madden predicts another Patriots win

They were right 2 years ago almost down to the letter

Time to get into our shitpost shelters?

>>73985357

Edelman is A-, has flaws but comes through in the clutch

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Kristine Leahy is so fucking hot

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>>73985878
already prepared senpai

>>73985878
Nope

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/nfl-playoffs-super-bowl-51-falcons-win-madden-17-patriots-prediction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TIYoJ8Cg2M

>>73985945
>5 months ago

In other news polls predicted Hillary would win the US election in a landslide. What went wrong?

>>73984930
Patriots cheating to win and getting carried by the refs and league is an institution of the NFL by now.

If Al Davis and any of his Head Coaches over the years did half the shit the Patriots did, they NFL would have handed out life time bans by now rather than minor slaps on the writs.

>>73985349
There's no such thing as "reverse" racism it's just racism

>>73985885
Dude come on. I think people confuse Edelman with Welker or something. Edelman was a 3 or 4th wide receiver or 5 th option for brady, then Welker left in and in 2013 Edelman for the first time broke 1000 yards. Before that Edelman was average like 150 yards receiving a year and like 300 on punt returns.

Edelman really has only been producing at Wr for 4 years now and he's averaging around 900 yards a season, with drop issues, and he's played a 2 full seasons out of the last 4 and he's had some injury in the last 4.

He's a B. Fun Fact. Edelman has played 8 season and only broken 1000 twice and barely missed it once. He's also only played 2 full seasons for one reason or another.

anybody here going to Houston?

I can recommend the best places to eat

>>73985261
Falcons faced a good schedule tho

>Lions trade Van Noy to Patriots since he was a shit lb

>Van Noy is now going to the super bowl

>>73986173
>Cardinals cut Michael Floyd because he's a drunk driver who can't catch a ball

>Michael Floyd is now going to the Super Bowl

>>73981640
Brady is still producing at an elite level despite a noticeable drop in arm strength because he's adapted his play style to cover that up. Guys who couldn't do that (old Peyton Manning) got hardcore exposed.

>>73985284
Jets were a terrible team. Panthers were middle of the road but had the good fortune of a weak schedule, keeping most of their players healthy, and facing decimated NFC teams in the playoffs

>>73986190
To be fair he's going to be inactive

>>73986140
Lol..

oh my. Don't eat at any Mexican or seafood places and you wont get the ass squirts. Seriously in Houston don't eat any Mexican or seafood. I live here. It's ass squirt city.

>>73986220
If they win, he still gets the ring.

>>73986212
I know they had a piss easy schedule but I wouldn't say 15-1 is a middle of the road team in any sense.
If they played some harder teams I'd say they would've gone 11-5 or 12-4

>>73986230
I can go out and buy a super bowl ring, doesn't mean that I earned it

>>73986242
Yes it does

>>73981320
>SD:Travis Benjamin recovering from knee scope
>SD

What did they mean by this?

>>73986235
Try 10-6

>>73986265
South Dakota

Spanos can't make up his mind where the team will really be located, yet.

>>73985062
>the only half decent QB they played put up 30
lel

>>73986242
Everyone on the team at practice has a role in the game planning, scout teams, everything. Just look at the fuckin' Malcolm Butler interception -- the Patriots ran that exact play in practice. Without the backup QB standing in for Wilson and making that play, does that game end the way it did?

>>73986313
Are you implying that Michael Floyd is even going to see a single snap in the Super Bowl? He was brought in because the receiving core was all dead and he was available.

>>73986348
What is reading comprehension?

>>73986354
No one gives a shit if you're on the scout team. You're just a warm body that can be easily replaced by literally almost anyone else. It's like giving credit to the water boy because he's passing out drinks because if the players weren't hydrated enough they couldn't play well.

>>73986366
Guys get cut because they can't run routes correctly, and if you can't run the route like a starting wideout your QB won't have any sense of timing. Both of these things make this a little more difficult than just plugging in a "warm body".

>>73981320
Los Angeles Chargers of San Diego Draft 2017:

Round 1 Pick 7: Malik Hooker, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 6: Forrest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky (A-)
Round 3 Pick 7: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 6: Jaleel Johnson, DT, Iowa (A)
Round 5 Pick 7: Corn Elder, CB, Miami (Fla.) (B)
Round 6 Pick 6: Keionta Davis, DE, Chattanooga (A)
Round 7 Pick 7: Kenny Golladay, WR, Northern Illinois (A+)

Did I win TT's job?

>>73986212
They went 15-1 and didn't play a close game in the playoffs before the Owl. In what universe is that middle of the road?

>>73983174
so what offended you first when you woke up this morning? sun not dark enough an thus not inclusive of minorities?

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>Carson Palmer is going to retire

HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>73986719
>2014: 7-8-1
>2015: 15-1
>2016: 6-10

2015 was a huge fluke for them. They over performed on an easy schedule

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>RODGER GOODEL PRESS CONFERENCE CHEATRIOTS GETTING ANOTHER *
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>>73985905
too bad she's got the Skip Bayless mentality

>>73986849
>Pats, Raiders to play in mexico next year

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>73986630
supposedly malik hooker has a torn labrum and is missing the combine

>>73986775
>We need real politicians to run the country
Because that's worked out swimmingly so far.

>>>/pol/

>>73986775
Americans did vote for him. Thats why hes president
>>>/pol/

Is Joe Flacco elite?

>>73986931
No hes not even top 15

>>73986841
Mediocre teams don't win 15 games and dominate in the playoffs. They were a good team last season.

>>73986841
its not a fluke, cam and their secondary were much better in 2015 than 2016

>>73986931
yes

> Be me
> Working and greeting guests
> One white guy out of anybody in the place came over to me while holding the door for guests
> Say "Hey, happy black history month to ya" than started weirldy laugh
> Me confused asf just say thanks and shut the door in his face.

Nigga just say have a nice day...

>San Diego Raiders

Now that we lost the chargers I kinda want this to happen just to see the shitstorm that it'd create

Also Jimmy would suck on any other team, especially the browns, because he and Brady are belichick system babbys

Falcons win the owl

Cap this right now

He is also a jew. They don't usually go against their kin. >>73981349

>>73987018
Are you black or something?

Reminder that Brady tore up the legion of boom to come back from a 10 point deficit in the fourth quarter of super bowl 49

and retards unironically think this swiss cheese atlanta defense is going to stop him from taking what's his by right?

face the facts, the only way to beat Brady in the super bowl is to get the ball in the last 60 seconds and pray you're able to drive down the field and score without their defense stopping you dead in your tracks.

>>73987060

> Are you black or something?

Are you new or something? Duh.

>>73987122
Why do tripfags think everyone should know who they are? You are cancer

>>73987063
Are you retarded? Nobody thinks Atlantas defense is going to beat Brady. People think the Atlanta offense will outscore him

>>73987147
>People think the Atlanta offense will outscore him
lol and those people are fucking retarded.

>>73987167
Why? Theyre literally the highest scoring offense in the league

>>73987173
That doesn't mean jack shit, is this your first NFL season? This is the Super Bowl. Nobody is impressed with a team that scores a lot but can't defend. It's not a formula that works.

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>>73987147
Yeah just like how Rodgers was supposed to destroy our """"""""swiss cheese"""""""" defense

>>73987173

The Panthers did too and look what happened.

>>73987136

Nah, was just jokin. Chill out you fag.

>>73987122
not your fucking blog you irrelevant carcinoma

>>73987179
>11 packers, 00 rams, saints
I hate to be the one to tell you this but the winner is actually decided by who has more points at the end of the game. Wild concept, I know

>>73987196
Newton choked. Ryan might too I think it will be a close game but dont act like Falcons dont have a chance. Pats havent faced any good offense yet no reason to think they can slow down ryan. Their toughest challenge was the seahawks and they gave uo 30

>>73987179
>bad defenses cant win super bowls
>Who are the new york giants

>>73987255
New England is going to score more on that Falcon defense than Atlanta is going to score on that patriots defense.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional

>>73987255
all those teams had good defenses

>>73987325
The 2009 Saints had the 20th worst defense in points allowed.

>>73987185

the Patriots beat the Texans even with numerous turnovers caused by offensive mistakes and not defensive plays. the patriots will score ~28 points, the question is if atlanta can do the same against the best D in the league.

>>73987255
Packers had a really good defense actually. Should have said 06 colts. They were awful. Also both giants teams were poor on defense but had autism magic at qb

>>73987341
>had to face playoffs Peyton Manning with no defense

Might as well have been the worst, still would have won that one.

dis nigga's dog says the Pats are going to win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUNRMoEzu5U

it's ogre.

>>73986630
Kenny Golladay is such a steal.

>>73987314
So mortgage your house and make a killing if your so sure

>>73987313
I hope you're joking because the Giants would have gone nowhere without their defense in 07 and 11. Eli made great meme plays but if not for the defense they can't stop Brady

>Jets hire someone named Stump
>No Sticky Stumps still around

Wasted opportunity.

>>73987364
Seahawks did it. And theyre nowhere near as good as falcons

>>73987436
Those were some of the worst defenses to ever win a super bowl. 25th and 17th in PA

>>73981393
>my
team gave up a r1 on sam bradford, so probably a r1, r2, the patriots pick of our defensive players, adrian peterson and the right to fuck all our front office staff's daughters.
Fuck the eagles must still be laughing about that trade

>>73987179
The Falcons defense has been good for four or five games now you filthy casual. You're spouting the same shit everyone did about Rodgers before their last game.

>>73987683
The rams are still laughing at the eagles

>>73985349

> People still think you can be racist towards whites

lmao

>>73987364
I don't get this. The Falcons have already played better defenses. They played most of their games against defenses with higher DVOA. Why do people act as if the Falcons lucked into a super bowl against the best team to play the game?

>>73987768
>Why do people act as if the Falcons lucked into a super bowl against the best team to play the game?

Because they did.

>>73987768
Shitriot fans are dumb

>>73987824
no

pats win by 2 scores

>>73987824
The Falcons had a much higher SoS, but everyone is talking like it's the exact opposite. This Patriots team is certainly not unbeatable.

>>73987845
I put my 2 nuts in your mom's ass

>>73987768
Theyre shitposting. None of them have any money on this

>>73987871
SAVAGE

>>73987824
This better be bait

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>before the Seahawks game
>FALCONS GONNA GET BTFO WILSON WILL DESTROY THAT DEFENSE AND RYAN WILL CHOKE AGAINST A GOOD DEFENSE IN THE PLAYOFFS
>Falcons BTFO the Seahawks by 16 points

>before the Packers game
>RODGERS WILL BTFO THE FALCONS SHITTY DEFENSE RYAN WON'T WIN IN A SHOOTOUT
>Falcons BTFO the Packers by 23 points while holding Rodgers scoreless for almost 3 quarters

>before the Pats game
>BRADY WILL BTFO THE FALCONS SHITTY DEFENSE AND RYAN WILL CHOKE AGAINST A GOOD DEFENSE
>????

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Please tell me where the Falcons faced a defense as good and well rounded as the Patriots that they didn't lose to.

Also
>losing to the Eagles and Bucs

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>>73987969
I count 12 games on the Falcons' schedule against teams above the Pats..

>>73988010
>DVOA
literally a meme stat on par with qbr

>>73988160
>this is the level of discourse of people who irrationally hate ATL

>>73986173
Van noy didn't fit the scheme and produced against Goff and Brock . He's average at best

>>73988183
It's the same rhetoric we had before the Packers game. Nothing new.

>>73981512
Will bradyfags ever recover??

Falcons defense isn't bad and they're playing on a different level than they did in the regular season obviously or else they wouldn't be in the Super Bowl.

If you based everything off regular season stats then the Cowboys would be playing against the Patriots but obviously their defense and coaching staff dropped the ball and didn't play up to their standards and now the Falcons are playing well above their regular season standards and locked down the best offense in the league since week 7 in Aaron Rodgers' Packers.

People posting regular season stats are either retarded casuals or trolls.
And were posting the exact same shit to "prove" the Packers and Seahawks would beat the Falcons.

This isn't rocket science.

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>>73988207
>Packers defense
>trying at all

What we're hearing from falcon apologists is the same song and dance routine we got from pats fans in the years when their defense sucked, especially the superbowl year when they lost to the giants for the second time.

You can't just explain away a terrible defense. It happened. It's real. It's not going away on 2 weeks preparation. Atlanta isn't built to win the Super Bowl this year. Can they get there? Obviously they can under the right circumstances. Can they defeat a complete football team like New England? No, they cannot.

It's that simple.

>>73987179
>held packers to 0 for the entire first half
>bad defense

I know their defense started off bad, but they've objectively been getting better with each game.

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>>73988253
You're talking about one of the most electric athletes of our generation

>>73987824
The Falcons are objectively the best team in the NFC. The only reason you'd think differently is if you're a butthurt Cowboys fan.

>>73988299
You do realize that the 2011 Giants objectively had a worse defense than the 2011 Patriots in the regular season right?

>>73988306
falcons defense has definitely been playing better of late, and they do have some talented playmakers on D, but the packers not scoring in the first half had an element of luck too. crosby missed a very makeable FG, and then they fumbled inside of the falcons 10.

plus it helped that the packers literally couldn't stop the falcons offense at all. defenses play better when the offense stays on the field for like 8 minutes at a time.

>>73988328
>>73988253
He's not as slow as people think. He ran a 4.89 40 which honestly isn't that bad for a guy who is 6'4

>>73988363
>then they fumbled inside of the falcons 10

That wasn't luck. It was just a really good defensive play.

>>73988363
None of that discredits the defense though. They forced a turnover, and that 3 points is not the difference between a good and bad performance. And the Falcons have a good offense, which helps the defense -- that's not going to change.

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>>73988328
This

>>73988253
>>73988328
Holy shit

>>73988363
>fumbled inside of the falcons 10
This proves that the Falcons D has been clutch lately
>defenses play better when the offense stays on the field for like 8 minutes at a time.
This will likely be both teams strategies going into the game

>>73987969
Denver seattle and kc all have great defenses

What are the odds the Raiders move to San Diego?
Move to Los Angeles?
Move to Vegas?
Stupidly stay on Oakland?
Share with 49ers?

>>73988363
>plus it helped that the packers literally couldn't stop the falcons offense at all. defenses play better when the offense stays on the field for like 8 minutes at a time.
How does this discredit the defense at all, retard?

>>73988392
>>73988401
people try to force a fumble on nearly every play from scrimmage; if ripkowski's knee hits down a fraction of a second earlier or he secures the ball better, the packers most likely score a TD. it was a good defensive play, but it's not that viable of a strategy to hope that you'll be able to force a fumble from the Patriots RBs.
>>73988471
obviously both teams are going to try and ball-control, but the falcons are going to have a much harder time of it compared to the packers game, since NE isn't starting 6th string players in the secondary. ergo, the defense isn't going to get as much time to rest.

don't take any of this as putting the falcons down, they're a very good team. but i don't think you can look at the packers game as a "good" example of the defense being championship-quality

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>>73988545
>hope that you'll be able to force a fumble from the Patriots RBs

Shouldn't be that hard

>>73988507
I agree, and they lost to 2/3 of those.

>>73988363
>packersfags aleays blame the fg
The falcons ran away 31-0. But ive heard the crosby excuse 1000 times. Fucking pathetic

>>73988583
2/4 actually. But that just furthers my point that it could go wither way

>>73988582
i mean everyone fumbles, and atlanta has guys like keanu neal who are really good at forcing fumbles. but the pats just don't really turn the ball over that much, and i guarantee you that most of their red zone possessions will be based on the short passing game.

>>73988601
did you even read my post? no one is making "excuses", fucking moron

>Falcons average margin of victory: 14.2 points
>Falcons average margin of defeat: 4.8 points

This is either gonna be a shitfest or a great game.

>>73988723
>rodgers doesnt score
>CROSBY CROSBY AARON IS BLAMELESS
k

>>73988755
why are you having an argument with a strawman you created?

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>>73981512

Will Doug Flutie coming out as a Trump supporter hurt his chances to get into the HOF?

>>73988743
>underdog victory or close game defeat
either would be a great game

the real shitfest would be pats cruising to a 30 point lead

>>73988743
>Falcons have to score a minimum of 30 points to win
This is always the case isn't it?

>>73988798
Nobodys arguing. Keep blaming crosby. Im sure it was all about "momentum"

>>73988834
They don't have to score 30 but their record when not scoring 30+ points in a game is 1-4. That said, they could've won several of the games they lost even if they didn't score 30.

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>>73983206
>Deadspin

>>73988877
learn2read in the future

>>73988915
>crosby missed a very makeable FG, and then they fumbled inside of the falcons 10.
Thats a direct quote

>>73988639
The playoff Seahawks without earl Thomas were not a good defense.

>>73988968
yes, and i was talking about it's a bit disingenuous to say that the falcons "shut out" the packers in the first half as an example of championship defense, because a couple of plays didn't go the packers way. it could have been 31-10 or even 31-17 with just a couple changes. the entire time i was also talking about the packers defense in relation to the patriots D.

nowhere was anyone trying to prop up aaron rodgers or anything, you just made that up because you have some sort of complex.

>>73989049
>its disingenuous to say packers were shut out
>packers had 0 at the half
I wish packersfags could stop being pathetic

>>73989120
"as an example of championship defense"
"as an example of championship defense"

can you read? are you some sort of child? why don't you get that no one here is trying to defend or even talk about the packers except for in a super bowl context? jesus christ i've talked to some real idiots on here but you're just naturally thick-headed or something.

>>73989049
>the score would have been different if the packers had scored
Brilliant analysis. Enthrall me with more advanced metrics o wise one

>>73989164
>forcing a fumble
>forcing fourth down and a fg try
>not a direct result of defensive effort
Stop man. Just close your eyes and pretend its 2011 again bud

>>73989167
thanks for your input, anything else you'd like to add? the sound of a fart or something?

>>73989190
seriously man, get some help.

if you really can't understand what i'm talking about, or why i'm bringing up things like this in a larger context, arguing online may not be for you. i've explained what i originally said already in the thread, please scroll up and cool off a little.

>>73989049
how do you feel about possibly losing jason kelce because he has a high cap number and it looks like pederson and roseman don't like the fact that he cant handle 320lb DTs and NTs

>>73989299
my hope is that they look at the depth behind kelce, and at the fact they have a second year QB behind center, and decide that isaac seumalo isn't ready to be that important of a piece in the offense yet. kelce is undersized, but he's a monster in the run game, and what wentz needs most of all in this phase of his career is consistency.

i'm okay with cutting barwin at this point, okay with cutting mathews too, but i really think kelce needs to stay for at least another year. with peters, brooks, kelce, seumalo/wisniewski, and lane, we have the makings of a very good line. once seumalo gets his feet wet, we can think about parting with kelce.

of course, if they draft a guy like ethan pocic or pat eiflein in the draft, i can only assume they want to cut him. and it would save a lot of money, so that might be alright.

>>73988806
I hope not iv been looking to get a Flutie Pats jersey too

>Roger Goodell said the cap could go up by as much as $15 million per team this year

Interesting.

>>73981354
Why does he look so retarded?

>>73988527
>What are the odds the Raiders move to San Diego?
Minimal. SD's offer wasn't good enough to keep the Chargers.
>Move to Los Angeles?
Zero. Market's full.
>Move to Vegas?
Maybe if they can find a new investor, but Adelson's probably working on blacklisting the Raiders as we speak
>Stupidly stay on Oakland?
>stupidly
Hi LA autist.

This is the most likely outcome btw
>Share with 49ers?
Mark Davis's ego will continue to keep this from happening

Who gets "LAR?"
Raiders or Rams?

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Who /worriedasfuck/ here?

>>73990063
HOLD

ON

TO

THE

BALL

>>73988834
They score 30 in almost every game, so that's of course it looks like they score 30 in every victory.

>>73990063
patriots have oddly fumbled a lot post deflategate

>>73990061
LARM for rasms
LARD for raideers

>>73990063
Why would you be worried? Aren't you the same faggot that said Matt Ryan would be the biggest playoff choker this year?

>>73990175
they had the lowest fumble rate in the league last year

>>73990188
a lot of people thought that he would desu

and also remember peyton manning threw for 400 yards in the afccg the game before 43-8. Cam newton destroyed the seahawks and cardinals before super bowl 50 in the playoffs.

if ryan lays an egg in the owl people wont remember the other games

>>73990220
ryan is the only QB to start a super bowl with a losing record in the playoffs lol

even if he wins he'll still be at .500

>>73990234
It's almost as if QB playoff record is a stupid stat. Your posts in this thread have all been total garbage, by the way.

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>>73990220
Which would be dumb because Ryan has been lights out in the playoffs since 2012.

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>>73990188
Of all things why would you remember that
Shoutout to this prediction that was super wrong

>>73990258
just a fun fact, idk why you're so pissed

and lel were you the guy sperging out at me for being a packers fan or something earlier? or just an angry falcons fan
>>73990305
nate ebner is very good on special teams though

>>73990286
I agree its stupid but thats just how people are

I like Matt Ryan a lot but he has to close the deal if he wants to get respect

>>73990322
>everyone who things I'm a bad poster is the same person
No, you just pay shitty things

>>73990322
He's shit on defense.

>>73990061
Rams
Raiders continue to be OAK

>>73990331
can't understand this, sorry
>>73990335
granted, but does he even play significant snaps at safety? i thought he was solely an ST guy

2bh the thing i remember him the most from was that drop kick thing in the eagles-pats game last year lel

>>73990363
> pretend he can't understand minor autocorrect mistakes
*say shitty things

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Why do we continue to allow this cheating fraudulent organization to run rampant over the league? Is it because the NFL is so big that the owners are afraid to expose the league as a joke? How many more years will you accept this?

>>73990363
Usually just in garbage time, but we only have 6 healthy, unbenched DBs at the moment, and he's the 4th safety. So if D-Mac, Chung, or Harmon get injured, he's likely going in.

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>>73990371
ah, ok
>>73990414
eric rowe can play safety! not well, but he can play it
>tfw you get drafted by the eagles and still win a super bowl by your second year in the league

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>>73990436
it's all good buddy

Lets be honest, no one expected the Falcons to slide into the Super Bowl the way they did this season.Not even when they slipped into second seed. The entire media didn't shill for them for one minute until suddenly they beat the Seahawks in the divisional round.

>>73990468
matt ryan is a fraud and will be exposed

>>73990436
We only have 3 trusted CBs and Rowe is one of them.
If Rowe had to fill in to safety, Jonathan Jones would have to play outside corner. And he'd get lit the fuck up

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You're playing in the AFC championship game when this guy yells JORDAN! and slaps his center on the ass. What do you do?

Keep in mind that he's won four Superbowls and has never thrown an interception against your team's piss poor defense

>>73990501
Leave Gronk uncovered. If Gronk is injured, some random wide receiver.

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>DJ trying his best to convince Palmer and Fitz to stay

I don't want to hope damn it. I wanted to give all positive aspirations a proper burial last week

>>73990501
Fake blitz and then grab Edelman's crotch when he runs over the middle.