eternal /trb/: year of the rooster edition

first for the death of /trb/

2nd for the death of Mitch

>tfw the mental image of a rooster dribbling past a whole bunch of hens and then elasticoing the rooster GK.

>>73891794
3rd for the death of mitch

>>73891808
classic mitchery at it's worst
wen stream

>>73891730
I never sign poultry, they're all Bravery 1

>>73891823
I've heard that your mom's a world renowned poultry expert.

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Nice OP, but needs an FM logo imo

>>73891819
maybe in an hour, gotta let mummy change my bedclothes and take a shower

kinda want to watch the man u game tee bee 8ch

>>73891794
jej

>>73891833
>not Roostball Manager 2017

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>fainted in the morning and smashed my head into the floor, theres blood.

This must be what Ryan Mason felt like after Cahill hit him. Did I get a concussion Morzi? My ears were ringing earlier but I'm pretty sure I'll get better when I start up Rooster Manager.

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>>73891953

>>73891953
>all those germans
and yes

>>73891964
Is the "don't go to sleep with a concussion" thing a stupid tv/movie meme or legitimate medical advice?

>>73891975
you might FUCKING DIE in your sleep la

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animal ops are the best ops desu senpai

>>73891983
he might fucking die outside of it as well
>>73891975
never heard of it
I'm guesing you could notice warning signs about your condition worsening (loss of feeling, nausea) if you're not sleeping

>>73892000
>trips
He'll die. Kek wills it.

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>>73892000
>>73892006
I was so nauseous earlier I had to lay down on the floor of my bathroom

Goodbye everyone, sign Fierro in my memory

>>73891975
It's okay to sleep, in most cases it won't cause any harm. In some, less common cases, internal bleeding can happen in the brain. The risk here is that you would sleep through it and might die in your sleep. My mom used to always check in on me as a kid every 2 hours to see how I was getting on, as long as you're not getting any worse you're fine. If you are however getting worse every checkup then something is wrong and it's time to escalate

t. someone who rates wingers

>all them chickens
Is there a club sponsored by a fried chicken franchise?

>>73892055
Blackburn?

>>73892055
The french national team?

>>73892063
Never knew Dafabet sells chicken.

>>73892081
It's the FA logo i'm not mistaken.

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>>73892055
classic zimbabwe

>just found out Michel Morganella is a massive racist

FFS he was at my club for nine years. People like that should have to wear a special arm band or something.

>>73892111
>luv dat chicken

>>73892055
Le Mans used to be sponsored by Loué. Before they bankrupted. And Loué isn't a fried chicken specialist, just a chicken specialist.

>>73892119
>I'm going to beat up every Korean. Go on – burn yourselves! Bunch of mongoloids.
Would love to know what good he thought would come from tweeting that

>>73892119
>People like that should have to wear a special arm band or something.
>t-they're the fascists

>>73892142
Jesus christ Raimi

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tfw monaco's striker has 17 in 12 in the CL

>>73892189
Did they go through the qualifying rounds?

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>>73892156

That's the joke, lad.

>>73892200
Yeah he netted 2 vs Kyiv.

>player refuses to sign a new contract
>upset at being transfer listed

>>73892227
Thought it'd be more than that since netting 15+ goals starting from the group stage is pretty rare.

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>>73892251
they're a one man club

>>73892274
>13-4

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>Decide to experiment tactically
>Opposition player does this one minute into the match
Thanks for ruining it for me, sucker.

>>73892274
>Kyiv
>Cursed team
Aight, post him anyway.

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>>73892301

>>73892324
The number of legendary Messi/CR7 tiers players in your saves m8.

>>73892324
>44 Caps
>28 goals
>Playing for fucking Monaco on fucking Ligue 1

Overrated confirmed

>>73892336
At times it feels like my save is rigged in favour of France. And Man City who buy the worlds best players and never fail FFP. They always get GOATs I don't find.

>>73892048
>t. someone who rates wingers
Why did you add that? Now I have to disregard everything you said.

>>73892349
They get them nearly day one. I remember that clearly because I bought a player like that in FM15: straight on intake day, I was scouting shit in Argentina and Barca/Madrid and the likes were already all over him. You can detect more players than the AI, but any player in the AI knows very quickly any player in its scouting range. It's uncanny. How did they knew?

>>73892363
Wingers are brilliant, they're just kinda redundant unless you're playing defensive fullbacks (which is fine for most midtable sides)

>>73892363
>Being this canadian

Wew lad.

>>73892382
>they're just kinda redundant (which is fine for most midtable sides)
That's all the information I needed.

>>73892382
>Wingers are brilliant

No, now you're exagerating. Wingers are good if you have a really solid defensive back line, a midfield that can do the defensive work wingers don't do and a poacher. But you always need a poacher anyway.

>>73892399
They're one of the most potent attacking threats in the game and easily the most affordable

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>47.5M€
This is Digne level of fraud.

>>73892432
>27 in 71 for Inter
>37.5m
More like Pogba level of fraud tbch

>>73892432
>This is Digne level of fraud.
>age 28
Even worse.

>>73892111
Is this fucking serious? if it is i'm starting a save with them

nice digits too senpai

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>>73892448
>>73892458
>Icardi out
>Lukeku in
They really don't give a fuck.

>>73892490
>Lukaku and André Silva at the same time
>Renato Sanches for 93m (Pogba tier transfer)

Who is the manager, Moyes?

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Playing the guy I'm trying to force out of the club may have been a mad idea

Left club and holidayed 6 months. Abou Diaby (good lad) is my replacement
the good:
>only 4 points off top with 4 games in hand
>has continued to use the 20 year old weak defensively but future goat LB as first choice LB
>didn't sell anyone important
>striker wins ballon d'or (but makes world team of the year at CM after about 10 games in that position all year)

bad:
>signed three >wingers for a combined 70mil+
>pissed off striker who previously won two balloon doors by giving the other striker a bigger contract
>wonderkid AMC unhappy about play time
>changes the squad number of club legend, and probably the best player i've ever had from #7 to #6 to accommodate one of the winger scum
I've seen a lot worse.

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>>73892528
You're gonna laugh. After the last Euro, Emery took the place of the Spain manager and the Spain manager became PSG's coach. Just guess who.

>>73892591
L-Lopetegui?

>>73892615
Resigned from role in 2018 and retired. Probably didn't find another job. Let's say that in FM it's extremely frequent to see him become the manager of Spain.

>>73892591
Guardiolel

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>>73892591

Pepep Poopoo?

>mfw this capcha

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>>73892643
>>73892655
Too easy with that extra bit of info. Sacked for losing to Denmark in the 1/4th finals. Germany 6-0'ed them in the semis and won the whole thing.

>>73892111
>luv dat chicken
African clubs is a gift that keep on giving.

>>73892127
You managed to make me google about Loue.

>>73892591
Xavi.

>>73892464
It's real. Enjoy your save.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Inn_F.C.

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look at this fat cunt

>spanlards

Is there a stat that governs how well defenders can play for offsides?

>>73892695
92kg at 198 isn't too bad.

>>73892704
iirc a combo of positioning and anticipation

>>73892682
>losing to Denmark in the 1/4th finals
>Getting knocked out by Leicester in the FA Cup final
>how do i win something without Messi lol

>>73892695
I don't get it.

>>73892704
I mean how well can defenders use a offside trap (something you shouldn't be using)?

>>73892708
>>73892724
look at his cheeks ffs

>>73892693
>nickname: Spicy Wings

oh my fucking god

>>73892704
It will be a ombination of things, like positioning, anticipation, and agility.

>>73892731
Oh. Well, pure E U S K A R A cheeks.

>>73892802
euskera*

>>73892740
Should be leadership too. Or followership, if one of the back four has high leadership

>>73892863
Euskera is how you spaniards call it. In basque it's actually spelled euskara. Check your privilage Franco.

>press is lecturing me over apparently blowing my transfer budget
>it's still got more money in it than at the start of the transfer window

NET SPEND LA

strim live

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lmao

>release player from loan
>get offered him by agent the next day
Sort it out game

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>Sign Oscar in Summer 2019
>Never had an injury during his entire time at Chelsea
Why the fuck does this shit happen?

>>73893514

It's hard to get injured from the bench, I suppose.

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>>73892724
>how do i win something without Messi lol
Indeed.

>>73893751
>Implying its difficult to win something with Bayern and PSG

>>73893849
Certainly not implying that.

>That nothing at all with Spain

>tfw you forget you set your alarm volume to 0 and sleep until 4pm, through an entire class

I would be a terrible footballer, would miss training for dumb shit like this.

>>73893909
I'm fining you two weeks wages

>>73893909
>phlegm
stream's on, mitch forgot to put subs on bench

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>Pros
My midfield is ripping teams apart and creating loads of chances
>Cons
Look at this fucking Donkey finishing them

>>73893045
link stream pls

>>73893959
twitch DOT tv / mtsc2

>>73893959
just search up his trip in twitch

>>73893962
>>73893964
thanks

>>73893929
That's fine (hehe), but unfortunately I'm still a trialist on a non contract. So it's essentially just an official warning.

>>73893930
This seems appropriate for the guy interested in making tutorial videos.

>>73893962
His voice doesn't fit his baby face.

>>73894003
>>73893962
>I have to make a Twitch account to berate Mitch
>Live
Mmmhhh... Nay, not worth it.

>>73894155
>Not taking 60 seconds to make a twitch account with a disposable email so you can live abuse him

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Now that was embarrassing.

>>73894171
Morz' is doing it for me. And everyone really.

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>Main ST and AMC injured
>Match set 2 days before my first CL match of the season
>Decide to go easy on this, expecting to turn during the game to have a fresh squad after
>Affelay scores, then he get injured
>Substitute him during half time
>Decide to wait for the classic 1-0, whatcouldgowrong.jpg
>Well time to get some subsititutions, use my last 2
>Palacio enter, touch his first ball and he's injured, well.png
>Whatever just wait
>Then Ben Yedder, okallmySTarenowinjured.gif
>Assman "We are outnumbered in middle"
>Okay even if we are 9 to 11 we'll win this, I trust my boys
>Mfw flipper goal at last minute

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>mexico

>>73894592
>Using Palacio

You called it on youself honestly.

>>73892577
worthit id say, now youll learn the value of wingers

>>73894639
As I said, Icardi and Dybala were Injured, and with Shaquiri too it made my usual attacks out, I played Ben Yedder most of the game and choose to put Palacio on field to give some breath to an AMC by moving Ben Yedder lower on field for next fixtures....

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>>73894639
>>73894689
Forgot picture

>>73894702
>4321
based
>BBM, AM SS
boo boring

it's unbelievable how often your players aim throw-ins straight to the oppositin.

get that fucking fixed

Keeper distribution's also dumb

I told mine to pass it directly to a sweeper and 90% of the time he'd ignore the sweeper and pass it to a CB instead

>>73894808
>AM
Dunno why it sets it like that, normally Dybala is on left playing either T or SS depending on the other team, Shaquiri on right as AP, both got specified consignes.

>BBM
Yup, as Kovacic is my main creator in need to be able to move where he wants on the field, Medel/Meli both playing in a Gattuso/very aggressive BWM, I need another one to fill the void and make the number, I tried 2 BWM and I didn't like it, against weaker team I can move out the BBM and put a more creative midfielder to retain possession.

>>73894881
i guess there are no true sweepers in fm any more

When looking through youth teams, is it best to have technical or mental attributes showing as default?

>>73894973
mental and look for the determination cheeses

>>73894973
physicals

>>73894990
Makes sense. I've missed a few GOAT regens that I should've sweeped up, probably because I was looking at technicals rather than mentals.

>>73894973
Look for the good personalities.

For some reason ever since the UK left the EU on my save I never get work permits denied, from anywhere.

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>>73895086
do the work permit rules look like this?

>>73895086
I already told you: it's very likely that you don't have a work permit system anymore.

>striker finally scored
>because he missed the ball and a defender cleared into his face
I HATE YOU SO MUCH

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>>73895112

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>when your name doubles as a cry for when you get injured

>>73895102
You might be right. Thank you based Brexit.
>>73895100
What the French guy said. I don't even have a work permit section on the rules section.

>>73895123
I don't regret abandoning my Israeli save (realised it would've been very easy to achieve my goal but it'd just take forever) but I do miss all the ridiculous names

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I don't actually need him, but he's cheap.

Downside to not playing with wingers is that about 80% of all affordable regens are wingers

ahhh

>>73895342
Then you can still replace them as AMC...

>>73895365
>pacebabby
>for the most technical position in the game

>>73895375
Most wingers tend to have nice first touch, dribbling and flair, AMC aren't only about passing and control.

>>73895408
>AMC aren't only about passing and control
>Shitssoko actually plays as an AMC in England
I wish you didn't remind me.

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I'm all for selling this dude but not when you accept fucking shit terms

Fucking most of the fee is tied to goals and appearances

Ter
Sergi Pique Masch Alba
Busquets
Messi Neymar
Rakitic Suarez Turan

This is how Lucho wants to play and it's brilliant, real next level shit.

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WHEN YOU TRY YOUR BEST BUT YOU DON'T SUCCEED

>>73895452
>Juve actually lost
>they lost more games than you
>2nd
pathetic

>put overload on at 67 minutes
>no highlights until the 88th minute

things like this make me want to sack every member of my team and throw the laptop out the window

>>73895463
I've been second for the past 4 seasons now. There's nothing I can do. I bully the rest of the league, but Juventus always top me :(

>>73895464
hey mitch

>>73895452
>concede 9 goals all season
>don't win the league

fuck me mate, i would thow a tantrum like a 7 year old

>>73895479
>Mitchell
He would have conceded at 90'+6.

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>>73895477
>I've been second for the past 4 seasons now

>>73895494
Kek, that got me, you bastard.

>>73895427
Kek, didn't had this kind of "player" in mind.

More about Kakà or in another style Ronaldinho who where rathey relying on dribbling and speed to win 1v1 than by passing

>>73895494
it looks like someone elses hand on brenny's face.

he needs to lay off the sunbeds

for the first time in qutie a long time a player passed the ball to an open teammate for a goal insteading of shooting during a 1v1 with a keeper.

Maybe 17 isnt all that bad

>>73895477
i feel your pain

>>73895541
So what if I am homosexual? I'm Mitch btw

>>73895541
Do you want us to come spam your shitty thread and talk about football manager there?

tfw a player from a shitty league wants 400% of their current wages for no fucking reason

>>73895541
>Not being homossexual and be able to say whatever you want on the internet and still get defended no matter how dumb your opinion is

>>73895558
That's actually a quite good idea

>>73895577
>That's actually a quite good idea
It really isn't
>Starting thread wars which only end in entire threads getting deleted and people getting banned

>>73895600
>people getting banned
Does this still happen here? Because I've seen a bunch of shit happen on this site and nothing in retaliation. I thought mods had just given up at one point.

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Is he worth the £5m I've just spent on him?

>>73895656
>18 in a month

not for me.

>>73895656
Well you're guaranteed a profit if the wages are sensible

Real question is if he's worth the non-eu slot

>>73895656
He's bland.

>not having a /trb/ing boyfriend
>stroking cock while comparing regens

It's like you guys don't even know how to have fun

>got 12 you's in 6 minutes on /heem/

they're thick as mince

>>73895794
Comes from getting hit in the head constantly.

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>3/3 wins in CL
Thank FM15 for RPM/DLP(S) combo.

>>73895794
Heem is literally just shitposting

There's good discussion 2 days either side of a ppv but fuck all else

And the worst kind of forced memes

>>73895936
Schaub bless is the worst

So I'm trying to sign a striker

Cheap but good from other leagues failed because of wage demands/refusing to talk
Young prospects all refused to talk
Can't afford the wages on a loan

What's my next best bet, get someone really old who has no resale value and pace or someone incredibly young and raw and hope they develop quick?


Feel like I'm fucked anyway

>>73895975
get a parent club

>>73895975
where do you manage

>>73895553
can confirm i'm homosexual

>>73895558
what did the deleted post say? i missed drama :(

>>73896109
Nothing, it was a copy/paste of the list of boards with a picture of a guy giving a BJ to anoher one

>>73896164
did you just assume their gender/sexuality?

>>73896001
Czech

I've decided to go as silly as possible and have signed Del Piero on a free

Figure I'll get a proper replacement either in January or from expiring contracts

what is the qtest nation for regens and why is it italian

>>73896207
The picture was pretty obvious.

>>73896251
It's america desu

unrealistically good, high CA for regens and they cost nothing

>>73896251
Did you fall in love with an Italian camwhore?

>Retain possession
>37 percent possession

I cannot into possession tictacs. All these years of managing in shit leagues has poisoned my brain

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Got my shit ready for the Chicken Inn FC save, wish me luck lads

>>73896280
no i'm really into regular whores

>>73896268
yes i've found since changing america to Very Important the regens are incredible

>>73896368
>america
>very important
SI pls

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Probably because this was one of the worst teams in the country and I mixed a few U19s in while rotating the squad. You still don't have a future here.

>>73896319
Post tictacs.

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>>73896439
>2 penultys
Even worse.

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>>73896439
Pic related.

Think I'm starting to figure it out, this was also my first match as manager (Europa League 3rd rd qualifier against some Romanian team).

Ideally they pass it around as they move forward as a unit, but I think they were moving forward too fast. Lower tempo maybe? I also had Lustenberger as a BBM instead of CM(A), meaning I only really had one guy in the attack and he would shoot like a greedy prick instead of holding up, despite that being the entire reason for his existence.

We wound up winning 3-0, so maybe I slit my wrists too fast, but we didn't score until the second half and genuinely looked like losing to a Romanian team at home before that.

>>73896506
look at the tactical familiarity

aren't they a bottom half team? probably used to playing with a more direct style under the previous manager... not sure that's how it works given that you just started the game but i'd assume tac familiarity plays a strong role here.

shorter passing + retain possession might also cause your players to ignore passing options when they deem them to be too far away which might explain why he'd bloot instead of holding the ball up for ages

>>73896506
also >wide midfielders in fm17
*shakes head*

>>73896596
I mean this year they're 5th out of 18, only out of CL qualification by GD right now.

I know the tac familiarity is poor, so I'm hopeful that's why, but I feel like my standard FM experience is:

1.Create tactic
2.Underperform
3.Maybe it's just going to take a few games?
4.Nope, still shit
5.Quit, start a new save, resign, etc.

Do you think direct passing for the target man would work better then? Was also considering going with a DLF or DF maybe.

>>73896608
Didn't they improve that this patch? Also the DM should fill some of that, and based John Brooks can handle it

>>73896506
>Wengers
They don't keep the ball, they dribble, lose it, and sometimes cross. Not inherently the problem, but not great.
>TM(S)
Attracts every balls and provokes hoofing. Plus, he has no one to give the ball to. Trashed.
>RPM+CM(A)
Runners who don't hold.
>DM(S)
Not a holder either.
>BPD
A hoofer. If he doesn't have the quality, don't use one.

Not surprising you can't keep the damned ball. It's not actually hard to keep it in FM, it's doing something with it that's more difficult.

>>73896506
Just realized I accidentally have it set to Counter here, play with Control by default

>>73896506
>lone TM-S
who the hell does he support?

>>73896634
you'd be better off asking someone better than me man

give it a try and see if it improves i'd say

i've heard good things about DF's though i don't remember where and whether it was good information or not

from what i've heard the WM issue is still rampant, along with the CM's being ridiculously bunched together... not entirely sure how they managed to fuck up positioning for an entire stratum of the pitch desu but then again i don't design vidya game AI's

>>73896677
>i've heard good things about DF's
might've been me

>>73896654
casting my vote for autistic-obsessive frog as best poster of january 2017

>>73896676
i think the idea is everyone pushes up the pitch and he supports anyone who ends up near him

i assume this isn't how it works in practice?

>>73896506
The only advice I can give you is to pull out Niklas Stark from your defense to put him higher on the field (at least DMC), He's young and will take long time to developp in a good center back while on midfield he's really effective and can be a good limited BWM or Sentinel

>>73896687
what's good about them then oh doctor morzi

>>73896676
He supports the team, no? He's a physical player with the 'Back to goal' PPM, my thinking is that he would essentially be supporting the central mids as the team moves forward together.

>>73896654
What's a good role to give then that the players move forward AND hold? I tried that RPM as a DLP(S), for example, but he didn't do anything useful once we got out of our own half, which threw the whole thing out of whack. Maybe I just didn't give him enough time.

I didn't think about players as holders/runners though, that's a fair point that I'll have to think about going forward.

>>73896697
I'm not the only frog in there, we're at least two. I believe it's Kem who said that the other frog posted 3 messages or something, but it isn't true. You guys just don't make the difference. Can't blame you since the other one actually posts decent stuff when it's not about Tottenham. Or Harry Kane.

>>73896697
>>73896724
except the TM gets the ball hoofed to him before any one from the midfield (especially with the wingers in the widemid position) can even get anywhere close to him
>>73896716
they just work, push back further than any other forward would and simply do whatever when going back into attack

>>73896733
i mean if you want to share the award feel free

>>73896733
>>73896754
I would say we are 3, as I never posted about Tottenham neither Harry Kane

>>73896749
So does having a TM adjust the hoofing bias of your other players? I would have figured that can only be done by altering their roles/personal instructions.

Was thinking about turning Haraguchi into a wide midfielder instead a winger (couldn't bare doing that to Kalou), but it just seems so impotent.

>>73896724
Start here.
>http://www.passion4fm.com/football-manager-player-role-combinations-duty-pairs/

I swore by the RPM/DLP(S) combo n FM15. The DLP(S) is there to bail the RPM out when he dribbles like an idiot but can't find someone to pass to. The both of them, like any playmaking role need players who can do shit to pass to or they'll just take long shots. I'd push higher and protect the defensive line with a DM(D). I usually prefer DM(D) to CM(D), but due to wide midfielders playing very wide and CMs very narrow, it leaves acres of space in the midfield in the defence, hence why I prefer a flat 5. The issue with it is that balls played just behind them are deadly because reasons.

On the sides, if you're not using the AML/AMR strata I prefer to customise a WM(A) role to your needs. They're not as hell bent on dribbling and crossing. Also, since you don't have a AMC, use a striker role that isn't a selfish bastard unless he's awesome at it.

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>4 goals from midfield including a blooter
>doesn't get a 10.0 rating
oh come on game

>>73896785
setting a player as a Target Man in the team tactics did that in slider-era and TMs were automatically set as such
from what I've seen in FM15 (post-sliders), it still made the teammates far too willing to hoof it towards the TM

>>73896365
underrated post

>>73896858
hey look its mitch

>>73896858
imagine being so disgusted by cuckold porn that you have to save it on your computer and post it all the time

>>73896785
TMs and playmakers will always attract the ball. No exceptions. You have to consider that when setting up your roles and duties.

>>73896874
can always trust a britanon to come in with the sickest of burns

>>73896812
Thanks for the link. Two playmakers seems so radical to me, but the logic seems sound. Will have to try it next match (We bossed the Romanians 5-0 on agg.)

>>73896882
>>73896827

See now I understand why our Lithuanian friend prefers sliders, because I had no idea they affected OTHER players' decisions, but just provided an outlet.

>>73896913
Playmakers always functioned like that

It's why I largely don't use them, although if you have the players RPM and Registas can be fun to use

>>73896929
>Implying I have any knowledge about FM and how it's always worked and aren't a complete shitter who needs /trb/'s advice

>>73896785
It's not only setting a player as TM that will the team hoofing, it was to work with combinations of different roles.
When you set a player to a certain role it's like putting several consign together (which is why you can't assign some consign to certain role).

So saying your ST as TM you have to think about how the rest of the team will reach him (by hoofing, flanks,middle, deep, short), and also why would you want to put him as a TM. Then you have to think to he will pass the ball when he receives it.

Also you have to take in consideration the Team Shape of your tactic as the team will not react the same depending on it.

To sum it up if you want your team hoofing the ball you have to think who will be the 2-3 main hoofer and from where they will shoot.

Spend some time watching your games to find what appears strange in the movement of your players and what you want to change.

>>73896929
>>73896882
so if i want to just play a passing game with no specific creator (imagine my players are all reasonably shit) then perhaps not having a playmaker is a better option? interesting

>>73896966
Just using CM roles is massively underrated

>>73896965
Sigh...i'll rewrite this

>that will make the team
>it has to
>So when setting your
>Then you have to think to which player he will pass

Apologies for this massacre

>>73896966
You definitively can, but you'll have to raise the fluidity of your team shape if you use fewer specialists. It will increase the global creative freedom of your team, make your defensive players attack more and vice-versa. Which also means that you need players with good mentals and tekkers in order not to shit the bed when they have the ball, which you generally don't have in lower leagues. It's not impossible to do, it's just fairly harder compared to getting one good playmaker and telling everyone to give him the ball and let him handle the complex passing.
https://community.sigames.com/topic/295001-how-to-play-fm-a-twelve-step-guide/

>>73896965
>consign
they're called instructions in english in case you weren't aware

>>73896965
>So saying your ST as TM you have to think about how the rest of the team will reach him (by hoofing, flanks,middle, deep, short), and also why would you want to put him as a TM. Then you have to think to he will pass the ball when he receives it.

I tried to do this though, which is why I set him as a TM(S). Midfield passes to TM, TM holds ball, midfield moves up, TM passes ball to midfield, TM assumes position to play marauding midfielder/winger in on goal, recycle possession, or score a completely average goal because he's a great finisher.

I guess I don't necessarily mind that he gets the ball passed to him, I mind that he wasn't passing it back. I'm trying him as a DF now, so we'll see how it goes.

>>73897019
I wasn't, thank you

>>73897022
The DF is a really different role, as he sit really lower on the field and closing to put pressure on defense or Defmidfield expecting to win the ball, even if it's on the feet of a centerback. So he will always be near an adverse player and will need to have a teamate he can reach easily (if you want him to pass the ball) or a really good cover to turn back and go to. If you have players on wings (either MR/L or AMR/L) you then need them to go near him offering solutions/possibility for him.


Think about what kind of ST you need in your tactic a more passing one of a finisher.

If your ST he's a great finisher you might not need to search to make him pass more the ball, but maybe how he can score more.

>>73897237
Let's say that I really want to play a passing, possession oriented game with a 4-1-4-1 formation.

What role would you set the striker as?

>>73897260
Not him, but depends of what I have and of the role of the other players. Right now I have a player who can play as a CF(S) so I use that. But as you could see in the duty pair guide, if you use a supportive striker role, you need a goalscoring threat in another position (or several other positions) or you'll be passing sideways for 90+ minutes.

>>73897260
rather than thinking about what role to set your lone striker as, consider how the ball will move between members of your team giving they play their positions. moving your wide midfielders into a deeper position for crosses or a central midfielder into a deeper position for a passing route will help you get the ball to the striker more reliably

>>73897311
I feel like this conflicts with advice higher in the thread which is to use an RPM/DLP(S) combo. I guess I do have Kalou, who I decided to use as a WM(A) narrow/cut inside. The lone striker is a goal scoring threat too, at least in theory, but I feel like there's no good mix between supportive in the buildup and goal scorer in the attack phase.

Either that, or my tiny brain can't work out how to fit an attacking striker into a 4-1-4-1 without surrendering more possession than I'm comfortable with.

>>73897360
I know what I want. I want the team to move forward and backwards as a unit, taking their time in the attacking phase to find a worthwhile opening. In this system that I've got in my head, the striker has two duties.

1. In the build up play, facilitate the midfield's advance by providing an outlet for them. When receiving the ball, play it back to them once they've improved position.

2. In the attacking phase, provide attacking threat, either by playing players in or by taking your big strong body and forcing the ball in.

I don't feel like there's a good role for this. Is it just CF? I feel like, in that case, he wouldn't participate in the build up play like I want him to.

>>73897374
By having players who are good on the ball and pressing high to get the ball back early. Like I said, the "hard" part is having the right players and doing something with the ball. Keeping it is the easy part unless your players are completely inept technically.

>>73897408
Because your midfielders have to be able to bring the ball up by passing or dribbling and can't consistently rely on your ST to do the job for them.

>>73897442

Because your midfielders have to be able to bring the ball up by passing or dribbling and can't consistently rely on your ST to do the job for them.

But won't they pass to him? I guess maybe not with retain possession/shorter passing. My instinct is that he'd find himself 1 on 5 way too often, but I guess my instinct is probably shit.

>>73897472
>Me in charge of greentext (or tactics)

>>73897260
Depends of the role of others :^)
Here's my view of the different role but I can be wrong.
It will depends on the animation, you will have several choice between DLF, AF, P, CF,T and FN.
The AF an P would be the most finisher role: Your team got the possession put pressure and find your ST who just come to finish, he don't take a part in the creation he's just here to finish, if he fail then repeat possession.
>David Villa Barça

The DLF and the FN play with their position, but while the DFL wil try to enter later in the goal to score from the nice spot, the FN will be more about aspiring the defense creating gap for others to fill, he will then be either the last pass creator or the scorer.
>Cesc was mostly use as FN under Guardiola

The CF is a ST good in playing face and back to goal, he will roam to help creating but will also be present to finish a good movement that he might have initiated (Ibra at PSG is a good exemple as he was monopilizing a big space on field) but as he roams a lot it also means you will your team playing in very small spaces time to time.

The T will use the space in front of him to create opportunity either to shoot from far or to infiltrate in the defense. In some ways he make the inverse movement of the FN as he plays between the channel to run in front of goal while the FN will leave his position beetween CB to play between the channel by passing to teamates.
>Dybala or Pastore.

I rejects DF and TM because they rely more on a direct style which is not easy to accomodate with possession.

>>73897472
>But won't they pass to him?
Why wouldn't they pass to the best option? It could be another midfielder, a winger, a FB... That's kinda the point of keeping the ball. Obviously a CF participates in the build-up and scores, but if your midfielders can't do squat but backpass when he's marked out of the game you might as well hoof it.

I seriously don't see the issue, there are plenty supportive striker roles. You can't just solely rely on the ST to score everything in a possession system.

>>73897524
Yeah in possession the striker is less reliable

I posted a dude with 4 goals earlier ITT. In that game my striker didn't score but he pulled the defence away from the midfielder, letting passes go through to him.

If you're not playing counter attack/cross spam you can't have a striker exist only to score

>>73897524
I definitely don't want to use the striker as the only goalscoring option. In fact, I mainly want the striker to participate in the buildup. My concern is that with an attacking role, the striker will be useless in the buildup, because anytime he gets the ball he will be 1v5 and will lose it instantly.

By 'wont they pass to him?', I mean won't they pass it to the striker that will quickly be enveloped by the opponent's central midfielders and backline, thus squandering possession? The striker in the 4-1-4-1 feels too isolated too have an attack role.

>>73897495
Not that I didn't already know most of this, but your description of a false nine made me wonder if that's what I'm looking for. Works in the buildup, but also the attack.

>>73897565
Trouble with False 9's is that they take a fucking load of longshots

>>73897574
Last time I used one I had good luck with the Shoot Less Often PI, already set that here

>>73897565
>My concern is that with an attacking role, the striker will be useless in the buildup, because anytime he gets the ball he will be 1v5 and will lose it instantly
He'll try that only if he's stupid, which brings us back to the importance of the players you have and what they can do instead of forcing roles onto them.

>I mean won't they pass it to the striker that will quickly be enveloped by the opponent's central midfielders and backline, thus squandering possession?
If you're giving the ball straight to your striker and tell him to wait for your team, yes he's gonna have a bad time no matter what his role and duty will be. That's why possession systems tend to be rather narrow with short passing distances and often play high on the pitch with high pressing so you don't isolate your players from each other.

>>73897565
To adjust this I have to mention that they are different use for the FN.
Benzema, Fabregas, Götze, Totti or Rooney all played as FN but they didn't made the exact things.

>>73897574
As he said they can try a huge amount of long shot, why? Because they will play in direction of the goal, so they will need possibility of passing, it's altough pretty effective in you want to play in a small space style "a la Guardiola" but it will need great players.

The second point is to set how you want them to close the opponant (Rooney was this warrior while Götze was a key player for Klopp in Kekenpressing)

A F9 is not a creator by his passing or technics (even if need to be good in it) but more by using the space. Because of this you can modulate him easily but it's also a very exigeant role and if he did not fit good in your animation you'are playing 10v11, as he will never be on the right place.

>>73897600
>>73897565
I really gotta sleep so I have to stop here. But remember that what you see on your tactics screen is the defensive positioning of your team. It's not because on your screen there's a seemingly lonely striker that it's going to play out that way when your team actually has the ball.

>>73897705
Yeah, I'm thinking of going to bed soon and I'm 7 hours behind you.

Good chat mr. frog

>>73897705
Bonne nuit

>board force a player sale
>it's factored into transfer confidence
wew

>>73897716
This might interest you
https://sisportscentre.com/the-art-of-possession-football/
Especillay because he started with a 4-1-4-1 he then change but still acted as a 4-1-4-1

>>73897832
Fascinating, thanks!

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Why is he only worth 1.5m

>>73898448
Are you newly promoted?

>>73898448
Low reputation probably. Also goalies are often times undervalued.

>>73898869
>>73898816
I've been in the prem for 6 seasons and that his value used to be ~10m

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>>73898448
>right only

>sign regen before season start
>get this non eu slot
what do i do??

>>73898889
New contract maybe?

He is on wages so high that it's not worth anyone buying him

>>73898897
Loan him.

>>73898897
On an Italian save the key is to have a feeder club with quick citizenship

Loan them there

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>>73898907
>>73898918
ok, but the thing is that i sign this argentinian at the same time yet he doesnt get the non-eu slot thing

>>73898943
Look at his information page

70% of argies are dual nationality with spain

>>73898943
Does he have EU second nationality?

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>>73898966
>>73898973
he's jew/argen, but jew is not eu

>>73898984
Israel is EU according to Fifa.

>>73899013
Actually it probably isn't EU, just Europe. I'm a retard.

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Theyve paid 120m for a lad whos played for their reserved for 3 months and just got 10 minutes of playing time.

Psg are the masters of business.

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>>73898984
Italy has complex anti-footballer-immigration rules

>>73899057
also got around 50m in clauses, 30 of which should be rolling into my account at some point

Also a sell on clause.

What are they smoking in paris?

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if anyone is awake, bets

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>Spain's eighteen games unbeaten from 2026 is a new World Cup record
>

>>73899681
>holders England
What a surprise.

>>73899702
:)

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Russia or Colombia in the final

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Come oooonnnn, Russia

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>>73899722
Overall, Russia have scored 19 goals in their 5 matches, with 8 from this guy. Including a 2-1 win over Brazil in the group stage.

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Damn shame.

>>73899749
Did they win it?

>>73899760
Look up.

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In other news, the scorer of the greatest goal ever just retired at the age of 34.

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what the fuck miles

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MILES WHAT DID YOU DOOO

>>73900544
This looks like you only loaded China and Portugal.

>>73900559
neither of those leagues are even loaded lel, I have all the other major ones loaded. I have no idea how this has occurred

>>73900521
Did Israel win the Euros or something?

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Think I've found the most average player in the game.

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>>73901521
No, it's the first season of fm17 so the euros were already played, he wasn't even that great in italy.

I'm a one club autisimo lads, at what point do I stop putting up with my club's bullshit and look for greener pastures?

>>73902344
did you not load Spain and start with a small DB or something?

>>73902467
It is a small DB but spain, germany, italy, england and france are all loaded and Suarez won footballer of the year but the world player of the year and the Ballon d'or were both won by an israeli with an average rating of 7.37

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if only he'd was taller, he'd be the next pique

>>73903015
>vision 4
>nex Pique

>>73903015
>>73903260
Hey, you would have vision 4 as well, if your face would've been crushed vertically as well

>>73899093
Money

>>73901855
beautiful

now stick him in any position on the pitch and watch him do bang average

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>>73901855
>not picking this solid 7

Quality thread.

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>>73904213

>>73904532
>work rate
>decisions
>concentration
>not all 1

Keep it up, lads.

>>73904583
seems quite mental if you ask me...

i'll see myself out

>>73904532
>£80 per week
Unrealistic.

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Beautiful Saudi name

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>>73895874
It's official: FM's Diego Simeone is a fraud.

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Why are international players always "jaded"?

I got these guys in november, the season is in full swing, most of them played last saturday/sunday, then last friday, and now tuesday. How can so many of them be jaded or tired? A lot of them I also have at club level, and they play every week without getting tired. But when it's international football suddenly they become extremely tired and in need of a rest

>>73904939
You have never watched the AI manage Intl games? These players, during summer tournaments play every two days. And they play the whole match plus extra time if required. If you watch these matches you'll notice that a lot of players hit 50% condition once past the 60th minute or so. Nevermind that the AI of the clubs does the exact same shit: they don't rotate much if at all, nevermind sending players on holidays when necessary.

I recall once CR7 playing nearly everything for Real, then the Euro, then the Olympics (no shit), then the league. Surely you think the Real manager would send him on holidays? Nooooooo of course, why would he need some rest anyway.

>play team at the bottom of the table
>they dominate us

This isn't how fucking complacency works SI, it doesn't magically turn a team into a possession dominating machine

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>>73892095
>>73892081
Yes

>>73904939
>>73904976
Whenever I check my match reports from internationals the players are always worn down to about 50% condition

The ai flat out doesn't rotate if a player is tired

>DL fucks up for the first goal
>DCL fucks up for the second goal
>"The regen in DCR has made many mistakes today, he deserves his sub-6 rating"

>>73905051
kek

>>73905040
If you are doing well always park the bus against relegation fodder.

>>73905051
>tfw I've got the Matuidi glass in my kitchen
I almost had wiped out that from my memory. Shamefur dispray 2bh.

>>73905055
They don't sub them out of they pick up/carry a knock either. I suppose I'll have to kick out the Slovenian """manager""".

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>tfw you always get batshuayi's

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>The The Villages
Oh and for those of you who don't know what The Villages is SI is suggesting that this regen came from the area of Florida which is entirely old people's retirement homes

>In the CDP the population was spread out with 0.3% under the age of 18, 0.3% from 18 to 24, 1.5% from 25 to 44, 40.4% from 45 to 64, and 57.5% 65 years of age or older. The median age was 66 years. For every 100 females there were 91.0 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 90.9 males.

>>73905117
0.6% of the population are youth players.
#rare

>>73905091
I want one of those Benteke cans.

>>73905170
I'm going to make a mental note of that and see if I can find you one still